Why was Christmas banned?

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  • @lewiscullen8236
    @lewiscullen8236 5 років тому +105

    Indeed, so always question an American who says the Pilgrims came to American to escape persecution. They went to be able to persecute others.

    • @helenpatterson3858
      @helenpatterson3858 5 років тому +8

      @yourmanwatson
      They were like the Jim Jones cult in a way.

    • @aethelwolfe3539
      @aethelwolfe3539 4 роки тому +12

      Dutch came here first for capitalism.

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 2 роки тому +1

      Yes!

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 7 місяців тому

      And the French came because they really loved wearing dead animals as hats

    • @TheThedisliker
      @TheThedisliker 7 днів тому

      Now we know why they were "persecuted" they were a danger to society

  • @ster2600
    @ster2600 5 років тому +32

    Fascinating. A very heartwarming and uplifting video to be released on such a tumultuous day. Thank you, The Guardian!

  • @_v_r_tt
    @_v_r_tt 5 років тому +27

    Why did the ban last so much longer in Scotland?

    • @jasonchambers8010
      @jasonchambers8010 5 років тому +7

      Calvinism.

    • @theGuardian
      @theGuardian  5 років тому +36

      The Kirk, The Church of Scotland, banned Christmas entirely in 1561, much earlier than the English parliament, declaring it a nasty popish invention. After Cromwell's death, and the Restoration of the monarchy in 1660, all parliamentary legislation passed after 1637 was formally revoked. But the Scottish Kirk weren't up for bringing back Christmas, and in 1690 it reinstated its ban which then formally continued until 1958, when Christmas was finally made an official holiday in Scotland after a quarter of a millennium - Josh

    • @BlueSaphire70
      @BlueSaphire70 Рік тому +2

      @@theGuardian Did the people who belong to the Church of Scotland follow that ban? I'm just curious.

    • @hetedeleambacht6608
      @hetedeleambacht6608 10 місяців тому

      @@theGuardian And, during that period, did the Scotts actualy celebrated Christmas? Banning is one thing, what the people did was another, no?

  • @Goodiesfanful
    @Goodiesfanful 2 роки тому +14

    Even today, there are fundamentalists who oppose Christmas because they think it’s Pagan.

    • @DerekPK
      @DerekPK 2 роки тому +15

      I think it's pagan.

    • @sirgalahad1376
      @sirgalahad1376 Рік тому +3

      @@DerekPK And I disrespect you for that.

    • @Dirty_Dan02
      @Dirty_Dan02 Рік тому +14

      It is pagan. Jeremiah chapter 10. Learn not the way of the HEATHEN.

    • @danabattisto7634
      @danabattisto7634 Рік тому +5

      Right on right on right on!! Saturnalia it is. That's a fact

    • @1973Washu
      @1973Washu 10 місяців тому

      And there are atheists who oppose it for being too Christian

  • @anitachopping
    @anitachopping 9 місяців тому +2

    Great stuff! Constantine created this holiday. He pretended he was now Christian, made it a state religion and slapped both Christmas and Easter on top of pagan holidays.
    I love both times of the year.

  • @Kidraver555
    @Kidraver555 4 роки тому +38

    Cromwell was right about hedonistic christmas celebrations leading to a decadent selfish society.

    • @marcustuliuscicero4605
      @marcustuliuscicero4605 3 роки тому +5

      Cromwell was a psychotic religious extremist. He did that for power and control, not because he cared about society's welfare.

    • @FrankAndrews
      @FrankAndrews 3 роки тому +2

      @@marcustuliuscicero4605 he didn't want it, he even mocked the idea of being labeled a king.

    • @marcustuliuscicero4605
      @marcustuliuscicero4605 3 роки тому +9

      @@FrankAndrews He was much worse than any previous king England had had. He not only killed English people's fun by banning even sports and restaurants, but also committed a genocide against Irish people.

    • @jacobcox4565
      @jacobcox4565 2 роки тому +3

      @@marcustuliuscicero4605 Jeez, this guy was a real life cartoon villain, huh.

    • @Goodiesfanful
      @Goodiesfanful 2 роки тому

      @@marcustuliuscicero4605 Cromwell was the closest England ever got to living under a dictatorship.

  • @smashbrew2039
    @smashbrew2039 2 місяці тому +1

    People back then were making life needlessly difficult when it was already awful

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 Місяць тому

      Cromwell didn't feel he was making people miserable. He was a dictator.

  • @beejamjam
    @beejamjam 5 років тому +25

    This is kind of inaccurate. Cromwell never voted to ban Christmas, although his Parliament did.

    • @theGuardian
      @theGuardian  5 років тому +12

      I may be wrong, but I don't think it's known definitively amongst historians, whether Cromwell voted for this ordinance or not. Although it stands to reason that he would support such a cause, since it was promoted by his fellow puritans in parliament. It was also not 'his' parliament at this time, Charles I was still king - Josh

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 2 роки тому

      @@theGuardian maybe he was too busy killing The Irish!🙄

  • @StellaMariaGiulia
    @StellaMariaGiulia 5 років тому +29

    Virtually every tradition or festivity in Christianity is borrowed from another religion.
    It would be helpful keeping it in mind when people are feeling particularly zealous about their religion.

    • @StellaMariaGiulia
      @StellaMariaGiulia 5 років тому +8

      Fabrizio sorry to burst your bubble, sending you a hug and wishing you happy holidays.

    • @DOYLETWAT
      @DOYLETWAT 5 років тому +3

      How educated your opinion is. You clearly have a very high IQ and a delicious talent for pointing out the obvious.

    • @tommyh4116
      @tommyh4116 5 років тому

      Yawn

    • @hetedeleambacht6608
      @hetedeleambacht6608 10 місяців тому

      @@DOYLETWAT jealous?

  • @davidcross9811
    @davidcross9811 4 роки тому +9

    Seems like it’s happening again.

    • @wserthmar8908
      @wserthmar8908 4 роки тому

      Perhaps, it’s a true American tradition - to be the Puritans

  • @NancyDrewe
    @NancyDrewe 5 років тому +17

    Hmm, a ban on Christmas is even harsher than a ban on vaping in the States. Thanks, this was interesting. :)

  • @blueshadez5228
    @blueshadez5228 4 роки тому +7

    *2020 anyone?*

  • @hooray600
    @hooray600 3 роки тому +2

    how did the ordinary people think about oliver banning christmas

  • @Giantdwarf00
    @Giantdwarf00 4 роки тому +36

    Should happen again. No Christmas tree is put up in my house in December. I won't have lies celebrated in my house.

    • @jean-louisvaillardarpin1894
      @jean-louisvaillardarpin1894 4 роки тому +11

      Ridiculous

    • @CaligulaInvictus
      @CaligulaInvictus 2 роки тому +15

      You must be a load of fun.

    • @Giantdwarf00
      @Giantdwarf00 2 роки тому +7

      @@CaligulaInvictus I am when not being lied to.

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 2 роки тому +9

      Fine! But you have no right to dictate to others!!🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃

    • @Goodiesfanful
      @Goodiesfanful 2 роки тому +4

      I don’t see how a Christmas tree is a lie. I suppose works of fiction are banned in your house too, because you think they’re lies?

  • @ianmorton140
    @ianmorton140 4 роки тому +6

    At no point did Cromwell say "Ban Christmas" it was the Puritan movement (Parliament) at that time

  • @floydhill9265
    @floydhill9265 3 роки тому +5

    This is only part of the whole story.

    • @castlegate2015
      @castlegate2015 Рік тому

      Where can we find the rest of the whole story?

  • @angelwhite2463
    @angelwhite2463 5 років тому +26

    I hate Christmas, but I love Jesus

    • @Thrill_Hou
      @Thrill_Hou 5 років тому +4

      Angel White I’m the opposite 😛

    • @giovannicorraliza8552
      @giovannicorraliza8552 3 роки тому +2

      @@Thrill_Hou pls repent friend

    • @pamelqtaylor8335
      @pamelqtaylor8335 2 роки тому

      So you hate the day the savior was born. Intresting

    • @angelwhite2463
      @angelwhite2463 2 роки тому +3

      @@pamelqtaylor8335 That date was chosen by Roman emperor Constantine 300+ years after the fact.

    • @castlegate2015
      @castlegate2015 Рік тому

      Christmas the Amnual Shopping Festival

  • @MaggieOliver68
    @MaggieOliver68 5 років тому +7

    That comment you just made vanish is shameful

  • @bigraf3178
    @bigraf3178 5 років тому +17

    Interesting

  • @tobicoops498
    @tobicoops498 4 роки тому +12

    christmas is illegal this year too!😀😀😀😀

    • @castlegate2015
      @castlegate2015 Рік тому

      Shhh! Don't say the word Christmas, you'll get into trouble. 😢

  • @Goodiesfanful
    @Goodiesfanful 14 днів тому

    Maybe Christmas was officially banned in Scotland for 250 years, but I bet nobody took any notice once Charles II came back.

  • @geradbrown1663
    @geradbrown1663 2 роки тому +1

    Cromwell and Jadis would always make it Winter but never Christmas.

  • @seahorse4407
    @seahorse4407 2 роки тому +3

    Cromwell government was just as same as contemporary government of Afghanistan. They persecuted others in the name of puritanism, that's why some Britons are fled to Northern America.

    • @1526andrews
      @1526andrews 2 роки тому +5

      Not quite right. The people who boarded the Mayflower were of Cromwell's ilk. They left England after the restoration so they could set up a Puritan paradise.

    • @GavinLepley
      @GavinLepley Рік тому

      I don’t think the martial law of the Taliban’s regime is any comparison to the Puritan theocracy of 17th century England.

  • @arthurlewis9193
    @arthurlewis9193 5 років тому +9

    Was this posted by someone on work experience? it's feeble even by Guardian standards.

  • @pinkrose9877
    @pinkrose9877 Місяць тому

    Apparently there’s something dark behind this

  • @Lisa-yc3vg
    @Lisa-yc3vg 19 днів тому

    Merry Christmas ❤

  • @marcusrobinson5218
    @marcusrobinson5218 2 роки тому +12

    Christmas should be banned

    • @Zacky51188
      @Zacky51188 2 роки тому +2

      It's not the solution.

    • @castlegate2015
      @castlegate2015 Рік тому +3

      As a shopping festival, yes I agree. 😅

  • @joshuawaring4180
    @joshuawaring4180 4 роки тому +5

    I’m sure The Guardian would love it.

    • @Kidraver555
      @Kidraver555 4 роки тому

      Yes they are quasi puritan.

  • @MilesBellas
    @MilesBellas 3 роки тому +4

    MENTION YULE ?!

  • @xelefonte
    @xelefonte 5 років тому +10

    *I hate Christmas. I wish it was banned worldwide.*

    • @wolfgang2380
      @wolfgang2380 5 років тому +4

      Bugger off

    • @xelefonte
      @xelefonte 5 років тому +1

      Dude 3 weeks ago..it’s February now

    • @covenawhite4855
      @covenawhite4855 4 роки тому

      Why Though ??? Or are you Joking

    • @Giantdwarf00
      @Giantdwarf00 4 роки тому +4

      @@covenawhite4855 it's all a lie. I don't celebrate lies. All it's about these days is consumerism and greed. It's vile.

    • @janetlieb2507
      @janetlieb2507 2 роки тому +1

      🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲

  • @FreedomLovingLoyalist
    @FreedomLovingLoyalist 5 років тому +4

    I ABSOLUTELY LOVE HOW THE GUARDIAN KILLED OLIVER CROMWELL

  • @godlike5178
    @godlike5178 5 років тому +17

    Guardian killed off labour 🤮

    • @jasonchambers8010
      @jasonchambers8010 5 років тому

      No one did. They will bounce back. Look at Kinnock then Blair. 92 to 97.

    • @godlike5178
      @godlike5178 5 років тому +1

      @@jasonchambers8010 sometime they will, sure ... But only if the guardian likes the leadership, of course

    • @wolfgang2380
      @wolfgang2380 5 років тому

      @@jasonchambers8010 😂😂😂😂

    • @aethelwolfe3539
      @aethelwolfe3539 4 роки тому +1

      Worse they turned it back to the more insidious and powerful tony Blair form.

  • @cat-yf5uz
    @cat-yf5uz 4 роки тому +2

    Oliver and Boris are both the same

  • @SilencedRage
    @SilencedRage 2 роки тому

    Boondocks brought me here. Huey is the truth.

  • @pilatusk2
    @pilatusk2 Рік тому

    Wrong

  • @disembodiednarrator
    @disembodiednarrator 4 роки тому

    Anyone notice they just copy pasted voxs style?

  • @anneshields2010
    @anneshields2010 2 роки тому +1

    Wow what a real life Grinch that guy was

  • @craphead9842
    @craphead9842 Рік тому

    fable fable and more fable.. Tony cuenca

    • @zyxw2000
      @zyxw2000 Місяць тому

      History, not fable.

  • @YochananMat
    @YochananMat 2 роки тому

    Cromwell Tzadak - about this anyway. (I shall have to say some hail maryz for clicking on a Guardian vid)

  • @jimcalifwin3760
    @jimcalifwin3760 5 років тому +3

    Thanks. 2020 on the way soon.

    • @Mega365247
      @Mega365247 4 роки тому +1

      Wow, you predicted it 100% 👏 👏

    • @bugela8070
      @bugela8070 3 роки тому +2

      To distroy the human beings

  • @aethelwolfe3539
    @aethelwolfe3539 4 роки тому +5

    2020, leftist ban sports fun and games and partying and Christmas too.

    • @ascendancy425
      @ascendancy425 4 роки тому +3

      Um, we have a conservative government?

    • @eaglesfan226
      @eaglesfan226 2 роки тому

      Nobody’s banning sports. You’re thinking those countries in FIFA and the Olympics.

  • @janetlieb2507
    @janetlieb2507 2 роки тому +4

    A Blessed Yule And Joyous Saturnalia!!!🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌜🌜🌜🌜🌜🌛🌛🌛🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲🌲

  • @PeterJohnsonWales
    @PeterJohnsonWales 5 років тому +1

    Well done mate. Can we bring the ban back please. Grizzle grump & bah.