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Fun fact, after his disastrous defeat at Worcester, Charles II was on the run for six weeks. He came very close to being captured and to evade his captors he had to hide in an oak tree. Charles was able to escape to Normandy and remained in exile for nine years, and was only able to return to England to take up the crown two years into Cromwell's death in May of 1660.
How does he take his father crown after all this battles and sufferings I mean why did parliament allow it. Can anyone explain it to me I am from turkey I am not good at english politics
@@batuhanyayla7214 Cromwell was a good general but his rule wasn’t very popular, after he died the mood of the country was mostly to bring the monarchy back so Charles I son became Charles II. Charles II is the last King of England to have dissolved a parliament. After Charles died his brother became James II and was kicked off the throne two years into his reign. Since then the monarchy in England and later Britain has been a constitutional monarchy.
Charles II was crowned on January 1, 1651 as King of Scotland. But to gain the consent to rule by Scotland's parliament, the newly crowned Charles II had to accept certain terms, namely pledge to support and guarantee the Presbyterian church's governance over Britain as was signed in the Solemn League and Covenant. This won him the crown in Scotland but also cost him a lot of support back in England.
I would have liked to see more detail on the trial of Charles I. Historia Civilis did a great video on that too. Politically speaking, it created a new precedent regarding the idea of from where authority emanates. The idea that an European monarch could suddenly be judged and sentenced by a national parlament, was a scary precedent for many other royals. PD: And happy new year!
Historia Civilis produced the definitive video on the trial of Charles I. He only produces one video every several months, but all of them are true masterpieces. He has a real gift for breaking down complicated political and legal events in the past so that modern audiences can understand what was going on.
Historia Civilis videos are well done, but they usually are very biased towards his personal likings (very obvious in his 2 videos on the congress of Vienna). It's a very big flaw when you seem to make something that supposed to be accurate historicly.
@@manuellanger1168 Everyone is bias and when it comes to history I favour England and cheer on England to win in most cases. He is biased towards the Alphabet kids which few from what I saw unsubscribed over.
I am still amazed at how Cromwell accomplished all this with no formal military training. He had all the traits of a great commander. Charisma and ruthlessness.
Although Cromwell could be ruthless, some who knew him also said he had the compassion of a woman. This is how he was described by someone who knew him: *His body was compact and strong, his stature under 6 foot (I believe about two inches) his head so shaped, as you might see it a storehouse and shop both of vast treasury of natural parts. His temper exceeding fiery as I have known, but the flame of it kept down, for the most part... He was naturally compassionate towards objects in distress, even to an effeminate measure; though God had made him a heart, wherein was left little room for any fear, but what was due to himself, of which there was a large proportion, yet did he exceed in tenderness towards sufferers.* He also seemed to have had depression (called melancholy back then). *He was not happy: in 1628, Cromwell consulted a well-known physician whose surviving notes describe him as "extremely melancholy". (His tendency to swing between periods of debilitating gloom and of high elation suggest that he may have suffered from manic depression.) His depression never left him and In 1652 he wrote the following letter expressing his loneliness: “Instead of pitying you, I can a little bewail my selfe, have I one friend in our society to whome I can unburden my selfe...I am left aloane, almost soe, But not forsaken. lend me one shoulder, Pray for me.”* Also despite his modern reputation as kill joy Puritan, he was actually known to be a very “merry” kind of person when he wasn’t being depressed *Cromwell could be a merry companion, a lover of horse-play and rough jests and free speech, which scandalised the prudish. Richard Baxter who personally knew Cromwell wrote, “He was naturally of such vivacity, hilarity and alacrity as another man is when he hath drunken a cup of wine too much.”*
¡Gracias! I really enjoy your videos and the military research and detail put into them. About the events of the ECW (English Civil War) that ended up in the Commonwealth's rule over Britania the People were still too accustomed to a Monarchical figure. They asked of Oliver Cromwell make himself King but he was contented with remaining at the top of the Commonwealth. He even declared his son as heir to his position. Since his son could not harness the Government and Army the same way as his father could, Charles II was restored by the Long Parliament. Charles II even wore the same wrobes as his father when back then he was executed. What these wars taught the English for later years was on how to avoid the very indiscriminate bloodshed seen by one and the other side. James II came to be a kind of Nero in the sense that he tried to bring back up Catholicism itself in an unprecedented and far from reality thought manner. He intended to make it nationally wide established within law itself. Parliament once again won popular consent and decided to bring a Count to replace the King due to a doubtful, if opportunistic, lineage that brought the 1688 Revolution about. After the King was forced to flee and the Count D'Orange was received major reforms came into his reign stripping a Royal institution of the true strength it held. Him being utterly lost since he never found himslef outside a High or Regular Officer's position. To finish this matter (mentioned on the first video about a Republican Democracy) the outcome of the 1688's Revolution is the conciliatory image made out of the King (Royal Institution) and it's place in the Estate, whhich was summed up popularly back then this way: "The King reings but does no rule" Which means he is still the head of the Army and National Church but does not have a say in the law and judicial proceedings over this Realm. He or she can only confirm the High and Low Chambers decisions reflected by popular vote. It is precisely this spirit that entinced the 13 Colonies' Independence and the USA's creation (still with the Imperial seed embedded in its roots.) When they found themselves denied of a place of these chambers or have their seats created they found themselves suddenly riddled by new taxes and economic limitations
Love your English civil war series , your channel is the big reason why i love history so much , thanks for your work , please cover the episode Cromwell' s reign and restoration of monarchy. One big request - please complete your Napoleonic wars series and american civil war series.
I’m glad you covered Cromwell’s campaign in Ireland, for many in England Cromwell is glorified and his atrocities in Ireland are overshadowed, your channel continues to provide non bias videos and I greatly appreciate you for dong so.
I disagree vehemently that many in England “glorify” him. He did a lot for Parliamentarianism in this country and he helped lay the foundation for not just our political system, but that of many others (including Ireland for that matter). However, he is also seen as very authoritarian as he overthrew Parliament and is also famous for banning numerous “sinful” activities. All of this is very well known so before you even get to Drogheda, he’s already a controversial figure. The only defence I will offer of Cromwell is that he was arguably a case of living long enough to become the villain. Had he met his end at an assassins blade or bullet in late 1648 or early 1649, our attitude would be quite different. I also think he was a man of his time. What happened at Drogheda was horrible, but not unusual given many cities in Central Europe suffered the same fate in the Thirty Years War. However, let’s not discredit Irish Nationalist propaganda by not completely demonising this English bogeyman.
The Taoiseach (PM) of Ireland Bertie Ahern was greeted in the UK Foreign Secretary's (Robin Cook) office by a giant portrait of Cromwell. The secretary had just put it up to replace another British historical figure (Maharaja Sir Bir Shamsher Jang Bahadur Ran), and was surprised when Ahern was enraged demanding he "Take down ‘that murdering bastard’". So english sensibilities around Cromwell's atrocities in Ireland aren't always considered in the most sensitive light.
Winston S. Churchill, 1957, A History of the English Speaking Peoples: The Age of Revolution, Dodd, Mead and Company: New York (p. 9): "We have seen the many ties which at one time or another have joined the inhabitants of the Western islands, and even in Ireland itself offered a tolerable way of life to Protestants and Catholics alike. Upon all of these Cromwell's record was a lasting bane. By an uncompleted process of terror, by an iniquitous land settlement, by the virtual proscription of the Catholic religion, by the bloody deeds already described, he cut new gulfs between the nations and the creeds. "Hell or Connaught" were the terms he thrust upon the native inhabitants, and they for their part, across three hundred years, have used as their keenest expression of hatred "The Curse of Cromwell on you." The consequences of Cromwell's rule in Ireland have distressed and at times distracted English politics down even to the present day. To heal them baffled the skill and loyalties of successive generations. They became for a time a potent obstacle to the harmony of the English-speaking people throughout the world. Upon all of us there still lies 'the curse of Cromwell'.
@@cobbler9113 I agree that in recent years he has become more controversial in England but there still is a statue of him outside of parliament and undoubtedly if you where to poll the average person in England there would be a high percentage that would view him positively
As the final major engagement of the Civil War, and it being my hometown, I agree with Faithful History on his request to do a more in-depth look at the Battle of Worcester. The stories, legends and actions of that battle - the lead up to, engagement and aftermath are full of rich content that, if made by you guys, would be simply awe-inspiring.
More English history please. And series on the rise and fall of Earl Godwin and Harold Godwinson would be great, including Harold's brother Swain and his nun captive and his poor brother Wulfnoff.
Thank you for your channel. Very well done. I am directly descended from a Scottish POW survivor of Dunbar. He fought with Clan Leslie. He was indentured as an agricultural worker and ended up in Virginia in about 1652.
And how do the Scots view Cromwell? I have scottish descent (snodgrass and Wallace) on both sides of my family and have been trying learn more of the history
great video, again of course! I just joined this channel as you provide my most favourite content on the internet, again and again, for which I am very grateful. Been ill and bedridden for the last 3 weeks so Kings and Generals has been my saving grace! Keep it up, you have a fabulous team
Wonderful video as per usual, a battle that I feel could be worth covering in the longer video is the battle of Clonmel. The siege is very interesting and is a good bookend to the Irish war with the New Model army taking heavy casualties before succeeding.
Please do an episode on the life/battles of John Lambert,one of the greatest commanders of the Civil War, and indeed one of the greatest yet underrated commanders in British history.
Yeah, but in the aftermath he was basically an elected absolutist ruler. He had incredible power and after his death there was even some sort of try to make his son inherit his position@@NeoConNET7
May want to consider a couple more short pieces at the end on the consolidated version about what ended up happening with some of the important figures talked about. Thomas Fairfax’s role in the restoration, Prince Rupert’s time as a pirate and eventually returning to lead the Royal Navy, Prince James’ (eventually James II) escape to join his brother and one day become king himself, etc.
James Graham the 1st Marquess (Marquis) of Montrose, was later embalmed and interred in St Giles' Cathedral in 1661. Not too far from where I lived in Scotland in the city that bears his namesake, is a statue of the Marquess. He was also a poet, in addition to being a skilled general.
*It's very surreal to see Bridlington highlighted on a map as clear as major cities like London and Liverpool - it's a tiny little village where my mum was born.* *Some Brid-recognition, at last! :)*
As a resident of Worcester and local historian I can't help but feel hard done by. You mention the battle of Worcester asif it were a mere footnote and not worthy of looking at in any depth at all. Yet Worcester, as the Rev. Hugh Peters put it following the Parliamentarian victory there was 'where England's sorrows began, and where they [were] happily ended'. The fact that Charles was even able to escape in the chaos of the Royalist collapse there is surely worth ten minutes of tactical footage on it?
Seeing you are doing a full length video, how about the seige of Lathom House....only because I live near to it and I used to go see the ruins when I was a mere child!
Great documentary… for the complete episode I would like to see more of how Charles II finaly got the crown. In my opinion the final move of the civil war. (and in a bitter irony it also shows the largely pointless results of the civil war in general)
I appreciate this is a story for another day, but would be great to have this followed up with a series that goes over the Restoration, Glorious Revolution and eventual Union between Scotland and England.
@@KingsandGenerals haha, not you. The facts as presented from pretty much any source are well-worn 'Scotland asked for help' myths that I've rarely seen anyone present it otherwise. I really like your channel FWIW
Excellent series... The siege of Plymouth has an interesting history. it being under siege for most of the war, a Protestant city in the heart of King supporting west country, is worth checking out..
Excellent video. Like your colleagues in The Cold War series, you should research the pronunciation of Irish place names, as they do not follow the English language pronunciation rules.
Without watching yet I appreciate covering history in my country, Cromwell is a controversial figure in Ireland but history recorded him as a unstable ruler who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Irish people, is untrue and although Irish people were affected by his actions no doubt. However in Louth he apparently killed thousands but if anyone looks into history Louth was in 90% English and Scottish settlements moved their after the flight of the earls. Thank you.
Thank you for what? You didn’t actually prove anything, there are first hand accounts from parliamentary officers outlining atrocities committed by Cromwell and second I doubt your fact about Louth is true since the flight of the earls involved earls from Ulster not Leinster.
@@High_rise12 Sounds like you have a issue with me saying thank you and I'll nothing to prove as history lays in the heart of debate. Thefight of the earls was all over Ireland but mainly in Ulster/Tyrone so don't know what you're getting at here. Louth was being ruled by a English lord at the time of Cromwell's invasion, so by your own logic Leinster couldn't have been controlled by the English which they had a well established base there, when in fact there's historic evidence that Cromwell even hung his own men for Looting the local population. Parliamentary members back in England hated Cromwell and would obviously say he committed atrocities. This explains why they dug him up from his grave and hung him.
@@IrishTechnicalThinker well if your source said that they gained Louth through the flight of the earls then it would be false because England already controlled that territory before the 9 years war and second, many of the officers that served in Ireland for Cromwell and fought at drogheda and Wexford where later granted land in Ireland as payment.
@@High_rise12 I'm not saying that at all but you're correct that Louth was not gained by the flight of the Earls, I'm only saying that the Irish populace was weakened by it and thus made it easier to control. That's all. Some people believe that Ireland was a glorious Irish heaven before Cromwell arrived but it's not the case.
I really enjoy your videos and the military research and detail put into them. About the events of the ECW (English Civil War) that ended up in the Commonwealth's rule over Britania the People were still too accustomed to a Monarchical figure. They asked of Oliver Cromwell make himself King but he was contented with remaining at the top of the Commonwealth. He even declared his son as heir to his position. Since his son could not harness the Government and Army the same way as his father could, Charles II was restored by the Long Parliament. Charles II even wore the same wrobes as his father when back then he was executed. What these wars taught the English for later years was on how to avoid the very indiscriminate bloodshed seen by one and the other side. James II came to be a kind of Nero in the sense that he tried to bring back up Catholicism itself in an unprecedented and far from reality thought manner. He intended to make it nationally wide established within law itself. Parliament once again won popular consent and decided to bring a Count to replace the King due to a doubtful, if opportunistic, lineage that brought the 1688 Revolution about. After the King was forced to flee and the Count D'Orange was received major reforms came into his reign stripping a Royal institution of the true strength it held. Him being utterly lost since he never found himslef outside a High or Regular Officer's position. To finish this matter (mentioned on the first video about a Republican Democracy) the outcome of the 1688's Revolution is the conciliatory image made out of the King (Royal Institution) and it's place in the Estate, whhich was summed up popularly back then this way: "The King reings but does no rule" Which means he is still the head of the Army and National Church but does not have a say in the law and judicial proceedings over this Realm. He or she can only confirm the High and Low Chambers decisions reflected by popular vote. It is precisely this spirit that entinced the 13 Colonies' Independence and the USA's creation (still with the Imperial seed embedded in its roots.) When they found themselves denied of a place of these chambers or have their seats created they found themselves suddenly riddled by new taxes and economic limitations.
“Leslie redeploys his cavalry to the right flank, leaving infantry to hold the left flank.” Cavalry on the left flank sit in place … and rumor has it they are there to this day.
The dro in Drogheda is pronounced like the dro in "drop". Just letting you know. Nice to see some Irish history covered by a history channel on You Tube, usually it's just passing mentions or just the Easter Rising. The Nine Years War (1594-1603) or the Jacobite rebellion (1689-91)had many important battles and individual stories (esp Sarsfield) worth recounting.
It's the first time ever on Kings and Generals that they covered a tiny sliver of Irish history. I suggested to Kings and Generals 2 years ago to cover The Battle of Clontarf. Probably my grand-kids will see it someday!!!
let me reveal the fact that i fuckin loved this series. oliver cromwell is such a badass and in my point, a more disciplined general in contrast to prince rupert
I think glossing over the battle of Worster was a bad call, since it was the culmination of the Civil Wars. When you go combine the videos, be sure to do a part on that.
Interesting side note: they weren't "Scots Infantry" they were "Scotch Infantry" at the time. "Scots" didn't come into common usage for several more centuries.
There were a few other notable battles in the first English Civil War that were not covered like Cheriton and Lostwithiel. Is there any possibility Kings and Generals could cover those two battles before moving forward to another time period?
The Battle of Dunbar was the most impressive victory of the war IMO, Cromwell smashed the Covanenters with a demoralised, outnumbered and near encircled army, inflicting 7,500 casualties at the cost of just 40 killed.
@@Biggestkidyouknow Look, Dude, Cromwell did enough bad things to Ireland and others as it is that he is justifiably hated for. We really don't need to make ridiculous shit up about him on top of that. It's just unnecessary. Let's stick to hating/criticizing him for things that actually happened and that he actually did, yes?
The Conquest of Ireland arguably wasn’t fully completed until the Act of Union in 1800 when the Kingdom of Ireland (after centuries of constitutional and regime changes) was forcibly merged into the British state (though our civil service and courts remained separate, and we retained our legislative representatives). Those representatives forced to sit in London instead of Dublin, but went back to Ireland in 1919 and declared independence in a reconstituted Irish Parliament (copying the Hungarian walkout of the Austrian parliament in the 1860s). European history is very complicated.
*"I met (Vladimir) Lenin in 1920 when I was in Russia, I had an hours talk...with him. And um, he spoke English much better than you would have expected, the whole conversation was in English. I expected it to have been in German, but I found that his English was quite good. I was less impressed by Lenin than I expected to be. He was of course a great man. He seemed to me a reincarnation of (Oliver) Cromwell, with exactly the same limitations that Cromwell had...I didn't like that"* -British Mathematician Bertrand Russell
Thank you for this episode. My Scottish ancestor, Ninian Beall, was captured in this battle and was sent to the West Indies as an indentured servent, and then on to Maryland. He was known as The Rock of Dunbarton and used to own the land now occupied by the Nation's capitol. Georgetown was named after his son.
I would love to see an expanded Irish video regarding Cromwell including his defeats and Irish resistance. The video makes it seem as though the west of Ireland just folded which isn't true. Love the videos!
@@MiloManning05 congrats the English mastered the art of killing civilians. Your probably the same kind of person to get in a feral position and cry about the IRA being ruthless terrorists.
I'm here as a result of the Battle of Dunbar. Not sure if thats a good thing but the families that were created show the strength of these men. Peter Grant and James Warren are my ancestors and were survivors of the Battle of Dunbar.
Cromwell wiped out between 20-40% of the Irish population it's estimated. Catholic land ownership went from 60% of the country to just 6%. His name is on a level of infamy surpassed only by Hitler among us Irish still.
On the topic of sponsors, have you addressed the Established Titles situation? They were a re-occuring and seemingly sizeable sponsor of the channel, with your viewers representing the sponsor’s most ideal demography. Love your work, but I think it would be valuable to get your organization’s side of things. Even if posted as a text post to the channel.
Can you cover Marshalls Elm the first action of the English Civil Wars or perhaps the Royalist atrocity at the Siege of Stinchcombe both rarely covered by historians .
Many of those 6000 Scott’s who were captured after the battle of Dunbar, or sentenced to six or seven years transportation to colonies in the New World. The ones that landed in the Plymouth colony were sold as slave labor. Two of them were ancestors of mine, who were purchased by iron ore concerns in what is now the state of Maine. Descendants of prisoner ancestors on both his mother’s and father’s sides, my father was born in a logging camp there, 300 years later.
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18:16 IT'S COCKBURNSPATH, NOT BUM. Kerning! :D
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@@HealingBlight Ahahah! That's what I thought, too! But it's not a kerning issue, it's a copy issue.
Fun fact, after his disastrous defeat at Worcester, Charles II was on the run for six weeks. He came very close to being captured and to evade his captors he had to hide in an oak tree. Charles was able to escape to Normandy and remained in exile for nine years, and was only able to return to England to take up the crown two years into Cromwell's death in May of 1660.
Hence, all the pubs called the Royal Oak.
It's almost unbelievable how close history comes to being totally different!
How does he take his father crown after all this battles and sufferings I mean why did parliament allow it. Can anyone explain it to me I am from turkey I am not good at english politics
@@batuhanyayla7214 Cromwell was a good general but his rule wasn’t very popular, after he died the mood of the country was mostly to bring the monarchy back so Charles I son became Charles II.
Charles II is the last King of England to have dissolved a parliament. After Charles died his brother became James II and was kicked off the throne two years into his reign. Since then the monarchy in England and later Britain has been a constitutional monarchy.
@@archivesoffantasy5560 oh I see thanks
Charles II was crowned on January 1, 1651 as King of Scotland. But to gain the consent to rule by Scotland's parliament, the newly crowned Charles II had to accept certain terms, namely pledge to support and guarantee the Presbyterian church's governance over Britain as was signed in the Solemn League and Covenant. This won him the crown in Scotland but also cost him a lot of support back in England.
King of Scots. (Not the same as, of Scotland)
I would have liked to see more detail on the trial of Charles I. Historia Civilis did a great video on that too. Politically speaking, it created a new precedent regarding the idea of from where authority emanates. The idea that an European monarch could suddenly be judged and sentenced by a national parlament, was a scary precedent for many other royals.
PD: And happy new year!
Historia Civilis produced the definitive video on the trial of Charles I. He only produces one video every several months, but all of them are true masterpieces. He has a real gift for breaking down complicated political and legal events in the past so that modern audiences can understand what was going on.
Historia Civilis is the go-to channel for complex historical videos on such topics. His video on Charles I's trial was fantastic.
Historia Civilis videos are well done, but they usually are very biased towards his personal likings (very obvious in his 2 videos on the congress of Vienna). It's a very big flaw when you seem to make something that supposed to be accurate historicly.
@@manuellanger1168 If you're going to accuse the man of being overly biased, you should at least give some examples.
@@manuellanger1168 Everyone is bias and when it comes to history I favour England and cheer on England to win in most cases. He is biased towards the Alphabet kids which few from what I saw unsubscribed over.
I am still amazed at how Cromwell accomplished all this with no formal military training. He had all the traits of a great commander. Charisma and ruthlessness.
Although Cromwell could be ruthless, some who knew him also said he had the compassion of a woman. This is how he was described by someone who knew him:
*His body was compact and strong, his stature under 6 foot (I believe about two inches) his head so shaped, as you might see it a storehouse and shop both of vast treasury of natural parts. His temper exceeding fiery as I have known, but the flame of it kept down, for the most part... He was naturally compassionate towards objects in distress, even to an effeminate measure; though God had made him a heart, wherein was left little room for any fear, but what was due to himself, of which there was a large proportion, yet did he exceed in tenderness towards sufferers.*
He also seemed to have had depression (called melancholy back then).
*He was not happy: in 1628, Cromwell consulted a well-known physician whose surviving notes describe him as "extremely melancholy". (His tendency to swing between periods of debilitating gloom and of high elation suggest that he may have suffered from manic depression.) His depression never left him and In 1652 he wrote the following letter expressing his loneliness: “Instead of pitying you, I can a little bewail my selfe, have I one friend in our society to whome I can unburden my selfe...I am left aloane, almost soe, But not forsaken. lend me one shoulder, Pray for me.”*
Also despite his modern reputation as kill joy Puritan, he was actually known to be a very “merry” kind of person when he wasn’t being depressed
*Cromwell could be a merry companion, a lover of horse-play and rough jests and free speech, which scandalised the prudish. Richard Baxter who personally knew Cromwell wrote, “He was naturally of such vivacity, hilarity and alacrity as another man is when he hath drunken a cup of wine too much.”*
@@todd5640 Never, not once. But I love military history.
@@todd5640 😂😂😂😂
@@todd5640 big facts
He had a fantastic mind for this sort of thing.
¡Gracias!
I really enjoy your videos and the military research and detail put into them. About the events of the ECW (English Civil War) that ended up in the Commonwealth's rule over Britania the People were still too accustomed to a Monarchical figure. They asked of Oliver Cromwell make himself King but he was contented with remaining at the top of the Commonwealth. He even declared his son as heir to his position.
Since his son could not harness the Government and Army the same way as his father could, Charles II was restored by the Long Parliament. Charles II even wore the same wrobes as his father when back then he was executed. What these wars taught the English for later years was on how to avoid the very indiscriminate bloodshed seen by one and the other side. James II came to be a kind of Nero in the sense that he tried to bring back up Catholicism itself in an unprecedented and far from reality thought manner. He intended to make it nationally wide established within law itself.
Parliament once again won popular consent and decided to bring a Count to replace the King due to a doubtful, if opportunistic, lineage that brought the 1688 Revolution about. After the King was forced to flee and the Count D'Orange was received major reforms came into his reign stripping a Royal institution of the true strength it held. Him being utterly lost since he never found himslef outside a High or Regular Officer's position.
To finish this matter (mentioned on the first video about a Republican Democracy) the outcome of the 1688's Revolution is the conciliatory image made out of the King (Royal Institution) and it's place in the Estate, whhich was summed up popularly back then this way: "The King reings but does no rule" Which means he is still the head of the Army and National Church but does not have a say in the law and judicial proceedings over this Realm. He or she can only confirm the High and Low Chambers decisions reflected by popular vote. It is precisely this spirit that entinced the 13 Colonies' Independence and the USA's creation (still with the Imperial seed embedded in its roots.) When they found themselves denied of a place of these chambers or have their seats created they found themselves suddenly riddled by new taxes and economic limitations
did you write this yourself?
A clear explanation of the arguments around Drogheda and the battle of Dunbar - thanks.
Love your English civil war series , your channel is the big reason why i love history so much , thanks for your work , please cover the episode Cromwell' s reign and restoration of monarchy. One big request - please complete your Napoleonic wars series and american civil war series.
I’m glad you covered Cromwell’s campaign in Ireland, for many in England Cromwell is glorified and his atrocities in Ireland are overshadowed, your channel continues to provide non bias videos and I greatly appreciate you for dong so.
I disagree vehemently that many in England “glorify” him. He did a lot for Parliamentarianism in this country and he helped lay the foundation for not just our political system, but that of many others (including Ireland for that matter). However, he is also seen as very authoritarian as he overthrew Parliament and is also famous for banning numerous “sinful” activities.
All of this is very well known so before you even get to Drogheda, he’s already a controversial figure. The only defence I will offer of Cromwell is that he was arguably a case of living long enough to become the villain. Had he met his end at an assassins blade or bullet in late 1648 or early 1649, our attitude would be quite different. I also think he was a man of his time. What happened at Drogheda was horrible, but not unusual given many cities in Central Europe suffered the same fate in the Thirty Years War. However, let’s not discredit Irish Nationalist propaganda by not completely demonising this English bogeyman.
The Taoiseach (PM) of Ireland Bertie Ahern was greeted in the UK Foreign Secretary's (Robin Cook) office by a giant portrait of Cromwell. The secretary had just put it up to replace another British historical figure (Maharaja Sir Bir Shamsher Jang Bahadur Ran), and was surprised when Ahern was enraged demanding he "Take down ‘that murdering bastard’". So english sensibilities around Cromwell's atrocities in Ireland aren't always considered in the most sensitive light.
@@HibernianHerald Lol, let’s cite an example from 20-25 years ago and use that to judge an entire country…
Winston S. Churchill, 1957, A History of the English Speaking Peoples: The Age of Revolution, Dodd, Mead and Company: New York (p. 9): "We have seen the many ties which at one time or another have joined the inhabitants of the Western islands, and even in Ireland itself offered a tolerable way of life to Protestants and Catholics alike. Upon all of these Cromwell's record was a lasting bane. By an uncompleted process of terror, by an iniquitous land settlement, by the virtual proscription of the Catholic religion, by the bloody deeds already described, he cut new gulfs between the nations and the creeds. "Hell or Connaught" were the terms he thrust upon the native inhabitants, and they for their part, across three hundred years, have used as their keenest expression of hatred "The Curse of Cromwell on you." The consequences of Cromwell's rule in Ireland have distressed and at times distracted English politics down even to the present day. To heal them baffled the skill and loyalties of successive generations. They became for a time a potent obstacle to the harmony of the English-speaking people throughout the world. Upon all of us there still lies 'the curse of Cromwell'.
@@cobbler9113 I agree that in recent years he has become more controversial in England but there still is a statue of him outside of parliament and undoubtedly if you where to poll the average person in England there would be a high percentage that would view him positively
Happy new year! You guys are my favorite channel and hope you guys keep the good content coming
As the final major engagement of the Civil War, and it being my hometown, I agree with Faithful History on his request to do a more in-depth look at the Battle of Worcester. The stories, legends and actions of that battle - the lead up to, engagement and aftermath are full of rich content that, if made by you guys, would be simply awe-inspiring.
Happy new year everyone! Thank you K&G for your very explanatory and interesting videos! May 2023 be a wonderful and productive year!
More English history please.
And series on the rise and fall of Earl Godwin and Harold Godwinson would be great, including Harold's brother Swain and his nun captive and his poor brother Wulfnoff.
Not sure Earl Godwin really had a 'fall', didn't he just die of a stroke in his 60s?
@@ScrumpyJack760 the rise and fall of the family.
Thank you for your channel. Very well done. I am directly descended from a Scottish POW survivor of Dunbar. He fought with Clan Leslie. He was indentured as an agricultural worker and ended up in Virginia in about 1652.
And how do the Scots view Cromwell? I have scottish descent (snodgrass and Wallace) on both sides of my family and have been trying learn more of the history
great video, again of course! I just joined this channel as you provide my most favourite content on the internet, again and again, for which I am very grateful. Been ill and bedridden for the last 3 weeks so Kings and Generals has been my saving grace! Keep it up, you have a fabulous team
Get well soon!
Wonderful video as per usual, a battle that I feel could be worth covering in the longer video is the battle of Clonmel.
The siege is very interesting and is a good bookend to the Irish war with the New Model army taking heavy casualties before succeeding.
Please do an episode on the life/battles of John Lambert,one of the greatest commanders of the Civil War, and indeed one of the greatest yet underrated commanders in British history.
It would be interesting to see the aftermath - Cromwells dictatorship. By the way, thankyou for your briliant work!
Cromwell was a Liberator, not a Despot like King Charles was.
Yeah, but in the aftermath he was basically an elected absolutist ruler. He had incredible power and after his death there was even some sort of try to make his son inherit his position@@NeoConNET7
Happy New Year! Can't wait for more K&G in 2023.
Kings and Generals always delivers with top notch historical accounts and excellent video presentation.
May want to consider a couple more short pieces at the end on the consolidated version about what ended up happening with some of the important figures talked about. Thomas Fairfax’s role in the restoration, Prince Rupert’s time as a pirate and eventually returning to lead the Royal Navy, Prince James’ (eventually James II) escape to join his brother and one day become king himself, etc.
Yep, more will be added
I'm very glad to know more about this really interesting time period. Nice job Kings and Generals.
James Graham the 1st Marquess (Marquis) of Montrose, was later embalmed and interred in St Giles' Cathedral in 1661. Not too far from where I lived in Scotland in the city that bears his namesake, is a statue of the Marquess. He was also a poet, in addition to being a skilled general.
Happy New Year! Thanks for the video drop this early!!
Happy New Year to Kings and Generals' channel!
*It's very surreal to see Bridlington highlighted on a map as clear as major cities like London and Liverpool - it's a tiny little village where my mum was born.*
*Some Brid-recognition, at last! :)*
It’s the same here with me, I’m from Hull and it was surreal to have had my city mentioned at the beginning of this series.
Odd that Leith wasn’t on the map though since it was also named several times
@@Olivierrrrr___________________ something is very wrong when the king of Spain is from hull
Hull is a city though
Excellent. I would like to see how Lord Cromwell ruled for that long and why Fairfax began to decline.
Another great video! What a start to 2023.👏🙌😎
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
I can't wait for the next video. I want to know are you guys still carrying on with the roman era videos with Octavian?
Early modern stuff is fascinating with how much is known, and how much is not.
Thank you for the video it had a lot of information
As a resident of Worcester and local historian I can't help but feel hard done by. You mention the battle of Worcester asif it were a mere footnote and not worthy of looking at in any depth at all. Yet Worcester, as the Rev. Hugh Peters put it following the Parliamentarian victory there was 'where England's sorrows began, and where they [were] happily ended'. The fact that Charles was even able to escape in the chaos of the Royalist collapse there is surely worth ten minutes of tactical footage on it?
I think he said that he will put this stuff in his longer video of the English civil war
They say if we mention it they may include it so hopefully they'll see this!
This definitely needs to be in the longer video!
And the fact ten years later it all went back anyways. 😳
It's fascinating!
Seeing you are doing a full length video, how about the seige of Lathom House....only because I live near to it and I used to go see the ruins when I was a mere child!
Great as usual!
The story of Cromwell's head is an interesting story
Was an absolutely great series. Thanks to k&g
Great documentary… for the complete episode I would like to see more of how Charles II finaly got the crown. In my opinion the final move of the civil war. (and in a bitter irony it also shows the largely pointless results of the civil war in general)
You guys should cover the Eighty Years' War or remake the Thirty Years' War series!
(Tho I'd prefer a complete series on the Hussite Wars heheh)
I appreciate this is a story for another day, but would be great to have this followed up with a series that goes over the Restoration, Glorious Revolution and eventual Union between Scotland and England.
don't hold out for an impartial one
@@davidlittle7182 Why not? K&G usually do a decent job with these sorts of things.
Not sure what we are being accused of, to be honest
@@KingsandGenerals haha, not you. The facts as presented from pretty much any source are well-worn 'Scotland asked for help' myths that I've rarely seen anyone present it otherwise.
I really like your channel FWIW
I'm Scottish myself and have been to Dunbar a few times, nice place.
Excellent series... The siege of Plymouth has an interesting history. it being under siege for most of the war, a Protestant city in the heart of King supporting west country, is worth checking out..
Excellent video. Like your colleagues in The Cold War series, you should research the pronunciation of Irish place names, as they do not follow the English language pronunciation rules.
Without watching yet I appreciate covering history in my country, Cromwell is a controversial figure in Ireland but history recorded him as a unstable ruler who slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Irish people, is untrue and although Irish people were affected by his actions no doubt. However in Louth he apparently killed thousands but if anyone looks into history Louth was in 90% English and Scottish settlements moved their after the flight of the earls. Thank you.
Thank you for what? You didn’t actually prove anything, there are first hand accounts from parliamentary officers outlining atrocities committed by Cromwell and second I doubt your fact about Louth is true since the flight of the earls involved earls from Ulster not Leinster.
@@High_rise12 Sounds like you have a issue with me saying thank you and I'll nothing to prove as history lays in the heart of debate. Thefight of the earls was all over Ireland but mainly in Ulster/Tyrone so don't know what you're getting at here. Louth was being ruled by a English lord at the time of Cromwell's invasion, so by your own logic Leinster couldn't have been controlled by the English which they had a well established base there, when in fact there's historic evidence that Cromwell even hung his own men for Looting the local population. Parliamentary members back in England hated Cromwell and would obviously say he committed atrocities. This explains why they dug him up from his grave and hung him.
@@IrishTechnicalThinker well if your source said that they gained Louth through the flight of the earls then it would be false because England already controlled that territory before the 9 years war and second, many of the officers that served in Ireland for Cromwell and fought at drogheda and Wexford where later granted land in Ireland as payment.
@@High_rise12 I'm not saying that at all but you're correct that Louth was not gained by the flight of the Earls, I'm only saying that the Irish populace was weakened by it and thus made it easier to control. That's all. Some people believe that Ireland was a glorious Irish heaven before Cromwell arrived but it's not the case.
Happy new year!
Happy New Year my fellow lovers of history!
fascinating like always
I really enjoy your videos and the military research and detail put into them. About the events of the ECW (English Civil War) that ended up in the Commonwealth's rule over Britania the People were still too accustomed to a Monarchical figure. They asked of Oliver Cromwell make himself King but he was contented with remaining at the top of the Commonwealth. He even declared his son as heir to his position.
Since his son could not harness the Government and Army the same way as his father could, Charles II was restored by the Long Parliament. Charles II even wore the same wrobes as his father when back then he was executed. What these wars taught the English for later years was on how to avoid the very indiscriminate bloodshed seen by one and the other side. James II came to be a kind of Nero in the sense that he tried to bring back up Catholicism itself in an unprecedented and far from reality thought manner. He intended to make it nationally wide established within law itself.
Parliament once again won popular consent and decided to bring a Count to replace the King due to a doubtful, if opportunistic, lineage that brought the 1688 Revolution about. After the King was forced to flee and the Count D'Orange was received major reforms came into his reign stripping a Royal institution of the true strength it held. Him being utterly lost since he never found himslef outside a High or Regular Officer's position.
To finish this matter (mentioned on the first video about a Republican Democracy) the outcome of the 1688's Revolution is the conciliatory image made out of the King (Royal Institution) and it's place in the Estate, whhich was summed up popularly back then this way: "The King reings but does no rule" Which means he is still the head of the Army and National Church but does not have a say in the law and judicial proceedings over this Realm. He or she can only confirm the High and Low Chambers decisions reflected by popular vote. It is precisely this spirit that entinced the 13 Colonies' Independence and the USA's creation (still with the Imperial seed embedded in its roots.) When they found themselves denied of a place of these chambers or have their seats created they found themselves suddenly riddled by new taxes and economic limitations.
I Did not know that Wetherby is now in Lincolnshire. It seems to have slipped south out of Yorkshire.
a wonderful series
I never expected the Isle of Man to be the last royalist stronghold
“Leslie redeploys his cavalry to the right flank, leaving infantry to hold the left flank.” Cavalry on the left flank sit in place … and rumor has it they are there to this day.
I'm currently reading Act of Oblivion.. maybe a video on the hunt for the regicides might be fun
The dro in Drogheda is pronounced like the dro in "drop". Just letting you know. Nice to see some Irish history covered by a history channel on You Tube, usually it's just passing mentions or just the Easter Rising. The Nine Years War (1594-1603) or the Jacobite rebellion (1689-91)had many important battles and individual stories (esp Sarsfield) worth recounting.
It's the first time ever on Kings and Generals that they covered a tiny sliver of Irish history. I suggested to Kings and Generals 2 years ago to cover The Battle of Clontarf. Probably my grand-kids will see it someday!!!
I’ve heard it pronounced “Droyda”,Drogheda”like you said and “Droheda” with the g replaced with the h and I think another weird one “Drogeeda”.
@@bazzatheblue The middle one with the silent g is the accepted pronunciation. The locals have a very flat accent and pronounce it like Drawda.
@@ranica47 The locals??? Ye mean the Starbars and the Marsbars!!!
@@olliegueret2963 I can't reply to that haha, obviously some local slang I'm unaware of!
Best videos related to history. Keep it up
let me reveal the fact that i fuckin loved this series. oliver cromwell is such a badass and in my point, a more disciplined general in contrast to prince rupert
very good video!
I think glossing over the battle of Worster was a bad call, since it was the culmination of the Civil Wars. When you go combine the videos, be sure to do a part on that.
Interesting side note: they weren't "Scots Infantry" they were "Scotch Infantry" at the time. "Scots" didn't come into common usage for several more centuries.
Cromwell's greatest achievement is not giggling at the name Cockburnspath
probably because it doesn't sound how it looks
Happy New Year Kings and Generals! Are there any plans in releasing a full length documentary on the Thirty Years War? Thanks.
Yep, eventually!
There were a few other notable battles in the first English Civil War that were not covered like Cheriton and Lostwithiel. Is there any possibility Kings and Generals could cover those two battles before moving forward to another time period?
agreed and the siege of Plymouth.
I know Cromwell must’ve had a few drinks after hearing “hey boss, they’re at it again. This time is Jr”
The Battle of Dunbar was the most impressive victory of the war IMO, Cromwell smashed the Covanenters with a demoralised, outnumbered and near encircled army, inflicting 7,500 casualties at the cost of just 40 killed.
@@Biggestkidyouknow
Doubt
@@Biggestkidyouknow’ll add that to the “list of things the Irish blatantly made up” category of English history then.
@@Biggestkidyouknowyou clearly don’t know what that word means
Yeah I thought Leslie had it until seeing him do nothing but hold the river.
@@Biggestkidyouknow Look, Dude, Cromwell did enough bad things to Ireland and others as it is that he is justifiably hated for. We really don't need to make ridiculous shit up about him on top of that. It's just unnecessary. Let's stick to hating/criticizing him for things that actually happened and that he actually did, yes?
18:27 Oh come on, the name Cockburnspath is already bad enough why'd you have to go and make it even worse? 🤣
Nice vid
The Conquest of Ireland arguably wasn’t fully completed until the Act of Union in 1800 when the Kingdom of Ireland (after centuries of constitutional and regime changes) was forcibly merged into the British state (though our civil service and courts remained separate, and we retained our legislative representatives). Those representatives forced to sit in London instead of Dublin, but went back to Ireland in 1919 and declared independence in a reconstituted Irish Parliament (copying the Hungarian walkout of the Austrian parliament in the 1860s).
European history is very complicated.
*"I met (Vladimir) Lenin in 1920 when I was in Russia, I had an hours talk...with him. And um, he spoke English much better than you would have expected, the whole conversation was in English. I expected it to have been in German, but I found that his English was quite good. I was less impressed by Lenin than I expected to be. He was of course a great man. He seemed to me a reincarnation of (Oliver) Cromwell, with exactly the same limitations that Cromwell had...I didn't like that"*
-British Mathematician Bertrand Russell
Please add a few minutes on the next with the aftermath of civil war that led later to Charles II reign...
I never knew anything about Cromwell except his name. But now, as I learn more and more, I REALLY LIKE THIS GUY ! He and I are kindred spirits !
you must be quite the character then
Awesome thanks 👍
Thank you for this episode. My Scottish ancestor, Ninian Beall, was captured in this battle and was sent to the West Indies as an indentured servent, and then on to Maryland. He was known as The Rock of Dunbarton and used to own the land now occupied by the Nation's capitol. Georgetown was named after his son.
‘Twas the Leveller’s whom history proved right.
Happy New Year!
I would love to see an expanded Irish video regarding Cromwell including his defeats and Irish resistance. The video makes it seem as though the west of Ireland just folded which isn't true. Love the videos!
Yes I always find it funny how he slaughtered you drunken apes like the animals that you are
@@MiloManning05 I love you too
@@MiloManning05and I loved how 2500 English soldiers where torn apart at clonmel.
@@High_rise12 2 million perished in the famine , 650,000 died in cromwells conquest and then 400,000 killed in the Ulster plantation 😂😂😂
@@MiloManning05 congrats the English mastered the art of killing civilians. Your probably the same kind of person to get in a feral position and cry about the IRA being ruthless terrorists.
One of my ancestors died in Drogheda while it was being besieged by Cromwell and his army, makes me even more interested in this whole topic
I was born on September 3. My ninth great grandfather came to Virginia the same year as this fateful Scottish defeat.
ENGLISH CIVIL WAR IS BRILLIANT. LOVE THESE DOCS. WE LOVE AND APPRECIATION FROM SRI LANKA.
Could King's & Generals cover the Guy Fawkes failed rebellion against the English Parliment. I'm not sure what time period it was
1605
Charles I's father James was the King then. It was the prequel to this.
@@EdMcF1 I know but mostly as special one off video, I'd just love to know more about it myself
It wasn't really a full blown rebellion, more of a specific plot to blow up the king.
Remember remember the 5th of November.
I live in Dunbar it’s a beautiful seaside town
So after all what Cromwell did to England and her monarch. Why is there a statue of him up around Westminster?
To piss of the micks
I'm here as a result of the Battle of Dunbar. Not sure if thats a good thing but the families that were created show the strength of these men. Peter Grant and James Warren are my ancestors and were survivors of the Battle of Dunbar.
Cromwell wiped out between 20-40% of the Irish population it's estimated. Catholic land ownership went from 60% of the country to just 6%. His name is on a level of infamy surpassed only by Hitler among us Irish still.
Ireland supported Hitler so that’s hard to believe
Thanks.
If you want a more in-depth look into the trial, watch Historia Civilis’s video on it.
Do next time the Dutch-Anglo wars or the 80 years war if you are planning to make more 16/17th century videos.
Happy New Year folks. 2023 Bless.
Please go in detail about all the different characters in this story, it would hel a lot lol.
Thanks To This Wonderfull Vídeo.
Sorry babe I know it’s new year and it’s nice to relax in the morning together but English Civil War part 6 just dropped and I have go
On the topic of sponsors, have you addressed the Established Titles situation?
They were a re-occuring and seemingly sizeable sponsor of the channel, with your viewers representing the sponsor’s most ideal demography.
Love your work, but I think it would be valuable to get your organization’s side of things. Even if posted as a text post to the channel.
Crazy stuff
Well done
what a viddeo on the The Worcester Campaign 1651
It's pronounced Drawheda, not Dro-heda.
Good video as always
Can you cover Marshalls Elm the first action of the English Civil Wars or perhaps the Royalist atrocity at the Siege of Stinchcombe both rarely covered by historians .
One wonders if the battle might have turned out different if the Earl of Leven had been in actually command of the army?
18:52, I became 10 years old again and laughed at Cockbumspath....
Sorry Scotts.
Many of those 6000 Scott’s who were captured after the battle of Dunbar, or sentenced to six or seven years transportation to colonies in the New World. The ones that landed in the Plymouth colony were sold as slave labor. Two of them were ancestors of mine, who were purchased by iron ore concerns in what is now the state of Maine. Descendants of prisoner ancestors on both his mother’s and father’s sides, my father was born in a logging camp there, 300 years later.
When is the next part about Octavian and Mark Anthony ?