How to fly the Cessna 172 - Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2020
  • In this video I go through a simple flight in the default Cessna 172 in MSFS2020.
    If there's any aircraft you'd like to see me fly, leave a comment below!
    I hope you will join me on another flight soon!
    Blue Skies & Tailwinds!
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  • @holdenm1400
    @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +21

    Where would you like me to fly next?!

    • @rsharp36
      @rsharp36 3 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't mind seeing a grass runway takeoff. MO24 near Craig, MO to KFNB in Falls City, NE. Your Cessna would fit the bill just perfect. Its a short, pleasant flight.

    • @AroundSun
      @AroundSun 3 роки тому

      Take a flight from KISP to KMTP along the southern shoreline of long island!

    • @gymclassroom2546
      @gymclassroom2546 3 роки тому

      Margate in South Africa, it’s one of my favorite regional airports. FAMG is the code

    • @andrewdecker5214
      @andrewdecker5214 3 роки тому

      Tokyo

    • @friedchicken1
      @friedchicken1 3 роки тому

      my town? Naples Italy :D ? yay I promie you'll love the city

  • @redstoyotarunnerwithstri-hp9gm
    @redstoyotarunnerwithstri-hp9gm 3 роки тому +34

    so nice to see old-school stream gauge instead of G1000 all the time

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +3

      I like the way you think!

    • @redstoyotarunnerwithstri-hp9gm
      @redstoyotarunnerwithstri-hp9gm 3 роки тому +1

      @@holdenm1400 haha, thanks! i mean, i got my PPL in steam gauge, so i forever love old-school lol

    • @AroundSun
      @AroundSun 3 роки тому +5

      @@holdenm1400 how do you get steam gauge? I only see g1000

    • @andyherle
      @andyherle 3 роки тому +1

      AroundSun same here!!

    • @RocketAnthem
      @RocketAnthem 3 роки тому +2

      AroundSun did you buy the deluxe edition? steam gauge only comes with Deluxe edition

  • @ronholfly
    @ronholfly 3 роки тому +5

    When you get instructions from the tower to taxi to a certain stand when you get to the correct parking area you will see a ground crew member to guide you to the brakes on spot. Nice video, thanks.

  • @CmdrEsteban
    @CmdrEsteban 2 роки тому +12

    To avoid dealing with those annoying ground crew pushback guys, always start your flight at the fuel box. They don’t appear at the fuel box of any airport, even when you engage the pushback from the fuel box.

    • @aeonsleo2
      @aeonsleo2 Рік тому +1

      The most difficult to program is a human object coz he's so unpredictable

  • @DoCuOrange
    @DoCuOrange 3 роки тому +9

    Couple suggestions for better landings:
    -Pitch for speed, power for altitude...you seem to switch it up there, ie. pulling out power to reduce speed and pitch for altitude...
    -Should be holding off touching the ground and hear the stall warning prior to the wheels touching the ground instead of plumping it down at 50 knots.
    -I personally don't like the hi-speed downwind (100+ knots) until abeam the numbers, I'd try and maintain max 85 knots when in the pattern.

    • @michaelzaug8750
      @michaelzaug8750 Рік тому

      Absolutely true pitch for speed power for altitude

  • @EnvyWhiskers
    @EnvyWhiskers 3 роки тому +56

    Bruh wtf I didn’t know this game was so accurate. I can actually practice for my ppl with this lol.

    • @paddyj7690
      @paddyj7690 3 роки тому +12

      yes you can. I practiced a lot on flight sim (like start-up, approach etc.) Obviously it's still a whole lot different in the actual aircraft, but it does help with some things, especially procedures.

    • @Ryan-Guerra
      @Ryan-Guerra 2 роки тому +1

      @@paddyj7690 how is it a whole lot different from the actual plane? Switches or gauges not working? Flight characteristics?

    • @paddyj7690
      @paddyj7690 2 роки тому +12

      @@Ryan-Guerra the actual feeling, and by that I don't mean how amazing flying is. Just simply feeling the airplane. You can become a master at recovering from a spin on FS, but in real life it's a whole other ballgame when you include the sensation of spinning towards mother earth. That's only one example. But as I said, you can practice a lot on FS. Having peripherals like yoke, throttle, flaps and rudder pedals for your PC also helps with practicing taxiing, taking off, landing etc. But again, being in a real plane will feel quite a bit different.

    • @unknown-fo9rn
      @unknown-fo9rn 2 роки тому +2

      Is not a game
      It's a SIM

    • @Goldblasterblaze
      @Goldblasterblaze 2 роки тому +4

      @@unknown-fo9rn It is a game man. Every sim is. Not saying I hate this game or any other sim game.

  • @tka1979
    @tka1979 3 роки тому

    Very good flight sir. Thanks for sharing.

  • @onthemarkdetailing8916
    @onthemarkdetailing8916 3 роки тому

    Wow awesome flying out of my hometown!

  • @chiefsimpilot
    @chiefsimpilot 3 роки тому

    Nice vid. I’m an airliner guy so vids like this very helpful.

  • @aeonsleo2
    @aeonsleo2 Рік тому

    If the aircraft pre rotates the wheels at rpm comparable to the speed of aircraft then there be no wear on the tires due to landing. Also the air speed can be used to power the wheels.

  • @pj_junied5095
    @pj_junied5095 3 роки тому +1

    Great video bro 🔥

  • @Escka
    @Escka 10 місяців тому

    Really the perfect vid for getting in the air

  • @nickbanas3102
    @nickbanas3102 3 роки тому +9

    Just a tip, in the s models we don’t introduce the mixture before setting. We wait until the engine itself fires then we add the mixture.

    • @jobdoneinc.4762
      @jobdoneinc.4762 3 роки тому +5

      its probably for sim reasons, in real life you can have your left hand on the magneto switch and push the mixture with your right hand, whereas in the sim you would have to quickly swing your mouse over which you cant always do fast enough for the engine not to stall

  • @american-professor
    @american-professor 3 роки тому +4

    Hi from Denham! I'm waiting on my Valve Index set to start flying MSFS in virtual reality. I think you should try it too, people claim it's like real life

  • @PappyGunn
    @PappyGunn 3 роки тому +9

    1. Take off
    2. Trim it
    3. take a nap.
    Just like the real one.

  • @RichardThomas341
    @RichardThomas341 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this. I'm curious, you have rudder pedals for the sim, right? I don't and have to control rudder from the keyboard. It's a pain, as the C172 (and C152) drift horribly to the left during takeoff attempts.

  • @jancheema6776
    @jancheema6776 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @Getitstraightyo
    @Getitstraightyo 3 роки тому

    Good video mate

  • @paulbollard6306
    @paulbollard6306 2 роки тому

    Great video! I want to get the PC version of the sim but not sure how to go about it. I hear there are lots of steps. Are you running on PC?

  • @ventilator98
    @ventilator98 2 роки тому

    You know the small display that has the time and temperature? There is a way to turn on a yellow ish backlight. How is that done?

  • @perpetualomega
    @perpetualomega 3 роки тому +1

    "this is 4 Left we're going for right" took me a second to figure that one out.

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      I'll give you that one, that was confusing

    • @abansalify
      @abansalify 3 роки тому

      @@holdenm1400 ATC rule, you need to take the clearance from tower to cross the runway. Stop short rules apply by default.

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      @@abansalify You are right!

  • @hullaladigital
    @hullaladigital Рік тому

    You smashed the Pushback operator 😅

  • @martyduffy8791
    @martyduffy8791 2 роки тому

    Cool, Thanks for sharing. What flight controls and rudder would you recommend purchasing??

    • @blazewhitman589
      @blazewhitman589 Рік тому

      Thrustmaster tfrp pedals great peice and work very nicely

  • @avatar098
    @avatar098 3 роки тому

    Can you do one with a preflight checklist?

  • @jeffrizzen9327
    @jeffrizzen9327 Рік тому

    Not to be critical but according the skyvector.. Runway 04R is Right hand pattern. you turned left across departing planes takingoff on 04L

  • @jnb894
    @jnb894 8 місяців тому +1

    Do you know if there is a way to fly older C172 models with a Carb Heat?

  • @sergey79
    @sergey79 3 роки тому

    Very nice! What yoke sensitivity settings are you using?

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +1

      I'm using the default sensitivity settings that come with the Saitek X52

  • @jsamms1051
    @jsamms1051 3 роки тому +2

    Program punks you with the ground crew

  • @canconservative8976
    @canconservative8976 3 роки тому +3

    Nice... where did you get the 172 without the glass cockpit?? I’ve been looking for this!

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +2

      The 172 with analog instruments is only available with the premium deluxe version of MSFS2020. Hope this helps!

    • @canconservative8976
      @canconservative8976 3 роки тому +2

      @@holdenm1400 thanks, yes I see that now.... doesn’t make sense, aircraft should be sold individually as an option.

  • @adrianchapa6439
    @adrianchapa6439 2 роки тому

    Do you know how to change the avionics? I upgraded to the G 1000 and I wanna go back to steam gauge

  • @blazewhitman589
    @blazewhitman589 Рік тому

    When I fly the 172 it has the g1000 but I don’t really like the g100 I love the classic look and I don’t know how to change it to this does anyone know how?

  • @niccolocastaneda941
    @niccolocastaneda941 Рік тому

    How did you change the instrument panels?

  • @ChimkenNuggers
    @ChimkenNuggers 3 роки тому +11

    Do you have to get the deluxe edition for this 172?
    I want to practice on something I am familiar with, not the one with the new Garmin

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  2 роки тому +2

      Yes, you need the deluxe version

  • @user-rd9yk5jy6r
    @user-rd9yk5jy6r 6 місяців тому

    I am struggling, i cannot find this version of C172 i only have G1000, but i want to fly it with G430 and basic instrument. Can you help me

  • @tymonk7
    @tymonk7 11 місяців тому

    Hi, do you fly with a sidestick? And if so, what are your sensitivity settings in sim? My joystick is really sensitive when flying cessna and I would really like to know is it normal or, if not, mayby try to change sensitivity, so it would fly better.

    • @wyler9290
      @wyler9290 10 місяців тому

      Any idea How do I get the standard 6 pack instead of g1000?

  • @christianbucks5054
    @christianbucks5054 3 роки тому +3

    What computer/pc do you use? I want to get this simulator, but I don’t know what computer/pc to buy

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +1

      I bought my PC from Jetline Systems. I have the Gravity GTX, with a 2080ti graphics card. To run the sim, you do NOT need a computer this expensive. I’d reference the minimum requirements to run the sim, and gif rom there. I wouldn’t recommend getting the minimum, but getting a couple levels above the minimum specs would suffice if you’re on a budget

    • @38Fanda
      @38Fanda 3 роки тому +1

      @@holdenm1400 jesus christ, what a card. the price on that is just ridiculous

  • @DriveBreakFixRepeat70
    @DriveBreakFixRepeat70 3 роки тому +4

    I’m noticing on a lot of reviewers that use this pulled back view of the pilot seat, it gives a fisheye view outside the windshield when you look in the distance. It’s really noticeable when you’re turning..have you noticed this?

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +1

      WhiteKnuckle6.2 Yes I have, it’s a built in feature of the game. I believe it’s called “Smart Cam”. Its used to keep the camera focus on a landmark, i.e. an airport or city landmark.

  • @goontube74
    @goontube74 2 місяці тому

    is this aircraft still available in 2020 I'm only able to access g1000's

  • @MetrxQin
    @MetrxQin 3 роки тому

    how to fly by flight plan, sir?

  • @malone628
    @malone628 2 роки тому +2

    Question for anyone. Flying this plane in the cockpit view, I cannot see the runway over the dash. I’ve tried different things but nothing changes.

    • @kokoeteantigha389
      @kokoeteantigha389 Рік тому +1

      Press the space bar. It will give you a slight elevated view over the nose.

  • @ibraheemtalash5094
    @ibraheemtalash5094 2 роки тому

    Are there any freeware aircraft add-ons available?

  • @AquaSea17
    @AquaSea17 Рік тому

    are you using any mods or plugins?

  • @AV4Life
    @AV4Life 3 роки тому

    Does it fly like an actual 172 though? I’ve never played this game, but maybe it could help with practicing traffic patterns, emergencies, and other real world skills.

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  2 роки тому

      Yes, I do! It definitely helps with real world ops

  • @nimitzg
    @nimitzg 2 роки тому

    was that a 4k monitor?

  • @livingstones1196
    @livingstones1196 Рік тому

    I requested for push back while the engine was running...It was scary

  • @radekradecki3187
    @radekradecki3187 2 роки тому

    where to buy this cessna?

  • @michaeldesilvio221
    @michaeldesilvio221 2 роки тому

    There's always got to be a beetle juice in the way.

  • @xjay1234
    @xjay1234 Рік тому

    Does that Cessna 172 have autopilot?

  • @user-ri8cc7gm7y
    @user-ri8cc7gm7y 11 місяців тому

    Hot get c172 classic?? Not G1000

  • @xjay1234
    @xjay1234 Рік тому

    Sorry I mean the C152?

  • @regulator5521
    @regulator5521 2 роки тому +1

    I got my PPL on the G1000 C172 and I’m trying to rent planes to fly but every 172 has the old school avionics panel. I’m trying to practice on that one for navigation before I actually rent but idk how to get that panel, the default for me is always the G1000. Anyone know how to change it?

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  2 роки тому

      It comes with an upgraded version of MSFS. I forget which one. Looking at the MSFS website should help! Happy flying!

    • @regulator5521
      @regulator5521 2 роки тому

      @@holdenm1400 thanks!

    • @user-kp3zx3db3k
      @user-kp3zx3db3k 2 роки тому

      That’s exactly why they make you pay extra for the premium deluxe version, greedy on Microsofts end if you ask me.

  • @SpottinPlanesForLife
    @SpottinPlanesForLife 9 місяців тому

    172nd comment!!

  • @clivefellows8748
    @clivefellows8748 3 роки тому +3

    My Cessna 172 loads in with electronic instruments on a large screen that are a bit overkill / overwhelming. How could I load in with “conventional ones” like yours? Ive been stuck using the 152 purely for the instruments haha

    • @dinoskendrovic20
      @dinoskendrovic20 3 роки тому +4

      His version without G1000 comes only with Deluxe version unfortunately :(

    • @clivefellows8748
      @clivefellows8748 3 роки тому +4

      Dino Skendrovic awww that sucks I was really hoping for a more seamless transition between sim and reality, might have to upgrade

    • @commentingpausedtoprotectus
      @commentingpausedtoprotectus 3 роки тому +2

      @@clivefellows8748 AFAIK the C172 with the deluxe edition doesn't include any DME equipment - or so I hear, so beware.

    • @TheGavranatar
      @TheGavranatar 3 роки тому

      @@clivefellows8748 just watch a few videos on the g1000. You dont have to be a gifted superbrain to learn the ins and outs of a garmin!

    • @clivefellows8748
      @clivefellows8748 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheGavranatar ya I've ended up just going with it but i would have liked to use the same instruments as are in the Cessna 152 because that's all I have access to in real life

  • @AquaSea17
    @AquaSea17 Рік тому

    are you also using rtx or no

  • @lcarnate91
    @lcarnate91 2 роки тому

    Were did u download c172 regular panels for MS 2020

    • @tylershax1872
      @tylershax1872 2 роки тому

      Premium deluxe verion of the simulator

  • @jaheemfingal7475
    @jaheemfingal7475 3 роки тому +2

    Whenever i rotate my Cessna just bumps up and down no idea why, it’s not as smooth as your take off it’s always jumpy even when doing patterns

    • @DrFillyBlunt
      @DrFillyBlunt 3 роки тому

      If you're using a gamepad/xbox controller there is an issue in the game where it assigns the rudders to the triggers as on or off button presses, not axis like they should be. This can lead to very irratic yaw control if you hold consistent pressure yet the control seems like it intermittently spikes. As far as I know this isn't fixable and has to be addressed by microsoft. I've heard of a work around where you might be able to assign rudder control to the right stick since it's correctly programmed as an axis, but you'd have to figure out what to control your camera with.
      If you're talking about pitch or roll and you use a pad the game is configured by default with really high sensitivity for the left stick. Might consider turning it down.

    • @jaheemfingal7475
      @jaheemfingal7475 3 роки тому

      Dr.FillyBlunt I’m using the honeycomb yoke

    • @DrFillyBlunt
      @DrFillyBlunt 3 роки тому

      @@jaheemfingal7475 Have you tried assisted yoke?

    • @jaheemfingal7475
      @jaheemfingal7475 3 роки тому

      Dr.FillyBlunt I got it, I have a yoke and flight stick. I removed the elevator option on the stick.

  • @TopgunB
    @TopgunB 3 роки тому

    Please do a tutorial on the basic Autopilot for this Cessna. Its very different to the FSX one!

  • @AquaSea17
    @AquaSea17 Рік тому

    i want these qwestions bye tommorow!!!

  • @fabiotuzzi3724
    @fabiotuzzi3724 3 роки тому +1

    Is this version of 172 with old style cockpit available on the standard version?

    • @nelson9128
      @nelson9128 3 роки тому

      No. Only deluxe edition... i buy the standard 4 months ago and now i buy the upgrade

    • @fabiotuzzi3724
      @fabiotuzzi3724 3 роки тому

      @@nelson9128 Thanks, I didnt know you could upgrade in a second moment tho. Can you upgrade the c172 only?

    • @nelson9128
      @nelson9128 3 роки тому

      @@fabiotuzzi3724 no, you can't and its a shame

  • @quintenzappe3412
    @quintenzappe3412 3 роки тому

    could you do a video explaining how to use the gps?

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +2

      I’ll do a video on the GPS when more functionality is added in a future update, the GPS is still glitchy right now

  • @TheSocketshock
    @TheSocketshock 3 роки тому +1

    how do you start at parking???? it always starts me on runway with engines on

    • @InsaneMetalSoldier
      @InsaneMetalSoldier 3 роки тому

      Click on the airport -> Set as Departure
      Now on top of the Map, where the Departure Airport Name is, below that, you'll see a box where you can pick the runway or parking if they are available

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      Check my recent video! :)

    • @TheSocketshock
      @TheSocketshock 3 роки тому +1

      @@InsaneMetalSoldier thank you! Its been fun figuring out how to start the smaller planes!

  • @richardspeed1271
    @richardspeed1271 3 роки тому

    Is there a fix to this... When taking off on the runway, my plane seems to always stray to far left or right and can be hard to keep it straight?

  • @chrism9976
    @chrism9976 3 роки тому +1

    I was into MSFS until I tried a short field landing. Pulling back the yoke for elevator braking below VR should not cause the a/c to wheelie. Crosswind t/o and landings will make the wings to slam into the runway. Totally unrealistic flight model.

  • @redwatch1100
    @redwatch1100 3 роки тому

    These aircraft remind me of Caranado aircraft with all the glitches.

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      Hopefully they'll update the aircraft to get rid of some glitches

  • @DanaFontenot
    @DanaFontenot 3 роки тому +1

    I'm training at Owen's on 65752...My instructor is Zach who was yours?

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      Awesome man! My first instructor was Sam but he left for the airlines. I’ve flown with Zach several times!

  • @ianh.732
    @ianh.732 2 роки тому

    How can I get the analog cabin of this plane?
    I only have the G1000 model

    • @tylershax1872
      @tylershax1872 2 роки тому

      U have to upgrade to the deluxe version of the simulator

  • @phanysomrithysak7720
    @phanysomrithysak7720 2 роки тому

    Hi, Holden
    As I also have Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020, why only c172 G1000 in my Microsoft how can I get c172 version as your?
    Please help me to response back.

    • @secondrule
      @secondrule 2 роки тому

      It's not included in the standard version. To get it, you have to upgrade to at least the premium deluxe

  • @lionsaviation8882
    @lionsaviation8882 2 роки тому

    hii great video!!! only one question: during takeoff did you give full throttle?

  • @thecorporatepilotdad
    @thecorporatepilotdad 3 роки тому +1

    First landing was a 4. Get that nose up more. 2nd landing was a 6. Combined score = 10. Nice!

  • @friedchicken1
    @friedchicken1 3 роки тому

    0:35 hey! what is that guy been paid for?

  • @DrFillyBlunt
    @DrFillyBlunt 3 роки тому

    The game seems to have missing or incorrect information on a lot of the checklists. I noticed by following the checklist exactly I can't get the 172 skyhawk started. It tells you to fully cut the mixture to start but if I put it to about 20% it will start. It took me forever to finally get the plane started.

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      Dr.FillyBlunt I don’t like to use the in game checklists for that very reason!

  • @khadijagwen
    @khadijagwen 3 роки тому

    You people are being bullies. FS can not be operated off a normal PC. What do you suggest.

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  2 роки тому

      In all honesty, I purchased my PC from Jetline systems and I love it. I would highly recommend them.

  • @wrightstuf73sw
    @wrightstuf73sw 2 роки тому +1

    talk about speeding while taxing mate 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @banggupi6554
    @banggupi6554 3 роки тому

    How to change to analgo panel dude .

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому

      The analog panel C172 is only avaible with the premium deluxe version of the game

    • @banggupi6554
      @banggupi6554 3 роки тому

      Holden M oh okay just installed std edition thanks

  • @aviationcyqr9737
    @aviationcyqr9737 2 роки тому

    I can’t find the old school 1977 Cessna 172

  • @InsaneMetalSoldier
    @InsaneMetalSoldier 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, you taxing like if you were in a Formula 1

    • @HatrickSwayze
      @HatrickSwayze 3 роки тому +4

      I’m not here to watch “taxing.”

  • @Voodooflies
    @Voodooflies 2 роки тому

    This is really not how to fly a Cessna. 😅

    • @jason401.
      @jason401. 2 роки тому

      It's a game, Einstein

  • @slowmar8440
    @slowmar8440 2 роки тому +1

    Who turns on alternator before even turning the engine on? 😂😂😂
    And you're supposed to be teaching how to fly the plane???
    1. Test Back Up Battery (10 seconds)
    2. Turn on Main Battery
    3. Parking Break Set
    4. Cutoff Valve - Set OFF
    5. Set Fuel Mixture High
    6. Set Throttle Idle
    7. If Cold Start (Turn on Fuel Pump 5 seconds)
    8. Switch Key To Ignition
    9. Set 1,000RPM
    10. Turn on Alternator
    11. Engage Back Up Battery
    12. Turn On Avionics (1 & 2)
    13. Check Oil Pressure is Rising and staying in the Green
    14. Switch to Left Magneto (Check for Engine Misfire)
    15. Switch to Right Magneto (Check For Engine Misfire)
    16. Switch Back to Both

    • @jason401.
      @jason401. 2 роки тому

      Yo... Thank you for this

  • @livelongandprosper70
    @livelongandprosper70 3 роки тому +1

    not a good video, you dont show how to fly it.. just mutter inaudible things under your breath.... no good ... NEXT !

  • @1UTUBEUSERNAME
    @1UTUBEUSERNAME Рік тому

    Does not know the difference between the elevator and the rudder

  • @AroundSun
    @AroundSun 3 роки тому

    how do you get steam gauge? I only see g1000

    • @holdenm1400
      @holdenm1400  3 роки тому +3

      AroundSun unfortunately the steam gauge version is only available with the premium deluxe version of the game

    • @jcarrandson
      @jcarrandson 3 роки тому

      @@holdenm1400 Thanks man! I've been wondering why the hell they didn't include the steam gauge in the game and thought I was just gonna have to wait for a 3rd party to develop it. Guess it looks like I'm upgrading to premium deluxe! lol

    • @otacianonoronha
      @otacianonoronha 3 роки тому

      I wonder why the hell isn't the steam gauge version the base one, I really don't like the g1000 screens.
      They should let us buy planes from other versions at the store, instead of making us buy the whole upgrade