How To IMPROVE YOUR LANDINGS in MSFS 2020 (Tutorial)
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Struggling with the landing challenges in MSFS 2020? Or are you simply looking to fly planes in a more realistic, steady manner and improve your simulator flying skills? This is the tutorial for you! In this video we'll talk about energy management using the Cessna 172S (steam gauges) provided in the Deluxe Edition.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:35 Channel Intro
00:55 Video Premise
01:34 Approach Speeds and Pattern
02:30 First Approach
06:32 Second Approach
08:00 Low Recovery
10:09 Third Approach/High Recovery
12:26 Final Approach
14:25 Taxi and Conclusion - Ігри
Wow, this is a really useful video! deserves way more views
Neil W I’m glad you feel that way. I like to approach things from a realistic manner and give people a snapshot of how we fly these things. That way people can apply it to any flight. Thank you :)
@@atmosflight5534 no problem, it's useful to know what to do if I'm too high or too low - great tutorial structure!
i know I'm kinda randomly asking but does anyone know of a good site to watch newly released tv shows online ?
@Cesar Jamie Lately I have been using FlixZone. Just google for it :)
@Joshua Arthur Yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for months myself =)
Thanks for this. Embarrassed to say I've plugged in over 100 hours in MSFS 2020 and I still often bounce while trying to land gently. Good to get back to fundamentals. Appreciate the clear instruction!
Thanks for this. My landings have improved immensely. I also believe there's a "sweet spot" in the windshield where if you pick an aim point on the runway, line it up with the sweet spot and keep the aim point in that spot, 9 times out of 10 you'll nail the landing.
That’s pretty much what is referred to as the aiming point IRL. Nice work!
I'm a non pilot, and this is great stiff to know. I hope to be flying in a couple of weeks. Haven't flown in 20 years. Thanks for reminding me how little I know!
Glad it was helpful!
Woooow !! THE MOST intuitive video to learn to land ! Thank you for the level of detail provided for us never flown in a SIM !
I loved all your MSFS videos. You sound like a super cool guy, and your videos are useful as heck. Thank you!
Excellent video for learning. Clear and easy to follow. I've greatly improved my landings using my favorite Diamond DA62 after following your tutorial. Cheers!
The best tutorial (and I’ve seen many). THANK YOU
Agreed. Great tutorial. Descriptions are clear and easy to follow. You keep this up and you'll have a major following wanting more!
Much appreciated! Sure hope you're right ;)
Seriously you deserve a medal...!! I've been trying to land for days, watched a few videos but I sucked. My landings are seriously improved after this video. Whatever you said was gold. "We are landing by trying not to land" - Wow that works like a charm. Really thanks man..!! +1 Sub for you...
One of the best landing training videos I’ve seen for MSFS2020. Very useful information. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
Thank you!!
I subscribed because of how great this video is! Answered a lot of my beginner questions. Now I'm going to watch the rest of your content and hope you got some of the 747-10/A320 instructions :)
This is a great tutorial! Thanks a bunch! I especially like your way of explaining everything - very easy and fun to listen to. Keep up the good work!
Awesome, thank you!
One thing people often miss about is fuel balance
Mostly, I set my fuel to 30%, it reduces the overall stall speed, so I can go slow and safe onto the runway, and a smooth landing
One of the best tutorials on landing, thank you so much!
Thank you :) I try to make these as helpful as possible.
Fantastic video. It just felt like I was in a flying lesson doing circuits. Many thanks
This was soooo helpful. Thank You!!! I haven’t been able to land yet without bouncing down the runway but this will help.
Thanks for watching :)
Very good content! Keep up the good work and hope to see you become big fast!
That’s such a nice comment. I hope others share your opinion. If you have any requests be sure to let me know!
Really a great video learned a lot. Thank you so much.
Thanks for the help with traffic pattern i was having trouble landing being too high to the threshold
Great video, very informative!
I literally crashed my plane every single time I tried to land it. Now I got an idea on how to approach for landing. Thanks a lot man, you have earned a subscriber :)
Welcome!!!!!!! Haven't had the chance to make a video since Feb.. Been away from home.. I return in July excited to get back to it in August :)
Helpful thanks!
I practised with the bush trips, they help me a lot with my landing! Plus I always fly with the hard settings so that when my plane crashes, overspeeds, that's it lol!
There is one fist rule. Pitch is speed and throttle power is altitude. Not the other way around.
Great video thank you
It worked an I wasn't even playing this simulator. I was playing YS Flight and this worked!
I need more video on these type of techniques! It's really helpful. btw, I am preparing for a cadet pilot assessment now, and I've been playing this game struggling haha
I wish MSFS tutorial was this good!
HHAA that opening killed me instant sub
Beautiful Landing! 6:35
thank you!!!!
Great clear instructions 👍
Thanks Daniel! I’ve got a condensed IFR flight on VATSIM coming up this weekend... time permitting!
"Heck, you might find yourself in a situation where you're about to fly into the mountainside and wondering why the f*ck you can't get any higher." That made me giggle! Very useful video, thank you!
This helped so much, thank you.
I'm so glad! Thank you for watching :)
Thank You
that was an excellent video. Thank you
Thank you for the sub! Welcome aboard.
to relieve myself of having to constantly monitor the speed, I have decided to tweak your method by sensing my right hand about to push the joystick forward, and then just before my right hand wants to do that, I slowly start to reduce the throttle with my left hand and vice versa all the while I am looking at where I want to aim to descend! I am finding that my right hand is ultimately guiding my left hand to find the ideal speed at whatever descend rate and flaps settings is happening at that split second moment, this seems to work even for the 747! my Left hand even begins to sense when it needs to cut the power just before the flare! Wow! in the end, my right hand is always moving opposite direction of my left hand, and I allow both of my hands to move any amount they want at any time. I just look at the point I want to descent and let my body's motor skills take over automatically.
You're essentially describing the exchange of kinetic energy (right hand) for potential energy (left hand).
By reducing the power (pulling your left hand back), you're taking energy out of the system.. If you don't adjust with the pitch you will risk stalling the aircraft.
Amazing video. Thank you. Now I just have to master landing an Airbus.
SimuDan little different when flying a jet. Especially when using autopilot on the ILS. You actually flip the process - power for airspeed, pitch for altitude. The autopilot will maintain the glide slope with pitch, so you as the pilot will find yourself adjust power for airspeed (rather than for altitude) in the Jets. I’ve heard it described that way by jet pilots as well. Play around with it. The concepts are roughly the same. You must manage your energy smartly and not fall behind into a low energy state where your nose is high, and you’re low and slow. That’s a dangerous place to be.
Sounds fun, maybe I'll be back when I build a computer to handle this sim. The last sim I used was 2002. All I could do is land very rough with a cessna and 737, well splat near the runway. I could never get the VOR's to work very well so they would come in when it was too late to get on the radial.
Sensacional.
Many Thanks for this presentation, Better than My Instructor. Just Subscribed.!!
I hope to be an instructor IRL one day :) Cheers bud!
Nice!
Good stuff. Explained things well
Thanks I take pride in that. I want to be an instructor IRL one day.
@@atmosflight5534 with check list tell me everything that is in the cabin I want to get familiar with. If not how do I find out whats what
Good tut.
Wow, awesome instruction video. Can you please make one showing how to use AOA (Angle of Attack) for landing 🙂
Nice job
Thank you! Cheers!
Very nice! I also find the rudder very sensitive.
YES SAME!!!!
in settings you can turn the sensitivity up and down
Very useful video, explained a whole lot better than the in sim tutorial. What GPU are you using to run msfs ?
A 3080 now, 2080 super back then.
Wish that I had had you as my instructor! Well done
Haha thank you. My goal is to get my CFI rating by summer 2021... maybe some day ;)
Easy Landings are NOT Easy Unless Your Knowledgeable & Practiced....End of Story,....plus Everything Else You’ve Explained here ! Thankyou for this Video,...👍😎👏👏👏I’m the 428th “Like”...lol🙋♂️
I am not a pilot... I am WAY to young to be one but I have dreams that I will fly planes one day. Anyway, this video really helped me, thanks a lot! I've always had trouble with how rough I land. I can land, but it's always kinda rough.
I use to have the ai assistance guidance route to show me where to land, but I noticed it's too long and the speed it makes you go is going to stall the plane. So I have been landing by slowing down close to when I'm going to land and it lands pretty okay, just sometimes it can be an hard landing. But thanks to your video and talking about how to maintain the speed instead I think I will have less hard landing and more of a soft landing.
I do that but I fly high then put the throttle on idle and drop altitude faster then normal right before the runway and let the plane slow down and land my problem is keeping it steady
I picked up this game, as a beginner to flight sims. I went through the tutorials taking my time to understand every single detail. To my surprise I went straight to the landing challenges with no assists at all and I averaged B and A scores. I feel like it’s my second nature haha, I’m thinking about streaming this game
Awesome video .. question what app did you used for moving you Cam like that ?
Thanks for the landing tutorial. At least, until they fix the over sensitive rudder, I'm having to use rudder assist. :)
Yeah the controls are ridiculously sensitive. I tweaked the sensitivity values (“rudder authority effectiveness” or something like that in the airplane cfg) and it’s still... twitchy. Better but still too sensitive.
You can make the curve in settings for your controller dramatically softer (first 70% of your controller moves only 30% of the rudder), this helped me considerably because it was unmanageable before.
Hey can you do a track IR settings video?Your track IR looks a lot smoother than mine
great tutorial. thank you
I have a question, when do you know turn, especially when you don't know the airport approach, or VFR point.
There's a joining pattern that is standard but differs by countries. For the UK for example, it's to fly overhead at 1000' above pattern altitude, then descend on the dead side to join crosswind. You would then fly downwind to the side of the runway and when the end of the runway is at your rear 45 degrees, then turn base before returning final.
For the US, it's typically a job downwind at 45 degrees. At least, that's how I remember it, may have changed, I'll let a local add info. :)
Hi, I can score about 1.5M on many landing challenges, but my Achilles heel is too much ground roll. Any tip to minimize it? I am not sure how to use the triangle tick marks. I tried to let one sit on top of the other, but it does not work. As a result, I always have to make last minute adjustments trying to center the plane on the runway.
Great video ! Which plane are you flying ? Looks like 172 but I can only find the glass cockpit. How to find the one with the dials?
I subscribed! Ironic but I love flying in MSFS, yet I hate flying in real life 😅
How do you setup a practice flight like that from the world map? When i select the airport and start the game i cant turn the ATC off.
At what height one should start descending? How do I know whether I would be able to reach the landing strip?
14:02 Which short key in keyboard pitching up?
When I do free flight, there’s a pointer in the sky of where I need to land. When I get closer to the airport my plane is way off center from the landing . How do I fix this? I’m assuming I use my compass but not exactly sure how to read. Any help thanks.
Why did you not trim for approach speed and then use power to adjust descent rate? Much easier and stable approach.
Definitley helped! I'm having trouble staying centerlined when on approach, idk if it's the wind or i'm just being too hard on the yoke or something else. I'd appreciate any tips =)
Using rudder is a must and often something people leave out. When I first started flying irl my flight instructor told me to always aim for the centerline using the rudder
@@borntofly9438 Thanks for the tip, I'm doing flight lessons irl now
how did you enable jit (just-in -time)?
can you tell me why when i use rudder, the nose pitches down. how do i make fine adjustments while maintaining level flight as i come in on approach.
If you use too much rudder the plane banks and starts to lose lift so the nose begins to drop.
This would be a lot more useful if you redo it at a time of day and approach direction that would keep the instruments visible instead of being in shadows and so unreadable. Thanks for the video.
which landing gear should first touch the ground? the nose or the left and right wing landing gears ?
Always the mains!!
Hey Atmos, loving your videos, keep it up! I do have a question, do you have any tips for adjusting trim accurately? I can’t for the life of me get the trim wheel to keep a level flight. I’ll adjust it just a little bit at +500FPM, and i’ll pitch one notch up and i’ll be at -500FPM. Thanks and keep it up!
The way you adjust trim in real life is through feeling the pressure you’re having to keep on the yoke to maintain a desired state. For example, to maintain a -500 fpm climb from a cruise setting I would need to reduce power and then either adjust the yoke forward or backward, depending on the trim speed. If you’re having to pull back to maintain a -500 fpm descent, then you need to trim nose up. The way you do it in real life is to trim nose up until the yoke no longer has to be pulled back. To do it in the sim is similar, except you don’t get to feel the pressure on your controls. So.. it’s almost like trial and error.
AtmosFlight yeah that’s the unfortunately part, there’s obviously no feedback on my stick in the sim. it’s such a pain trying to get a level flight in game for me 😂 thanks!
@@ThatCenterController see if you can get hold of an external trim wheel. Saitek used to do one but no longer sold but you may find one on eBay or if have access to a 3D printer, see thingiverse.com to make one. Makes a huge difference to trying to trim and is far more realistic.
Something I've noticed with the sim pattern assistance: it doesn't seem to have you dsecending before you turn on base, not that I can notice anyway. According to the SimToolKitPro landing report, I land 800-1000ft down the runway, 50 knots with full flaps and idle power. Would I be correct in assuming that the sim pattern is somewhat inaccurate? Also, 70 knots according to the pattern assist is too fast on final. 55-60 knots seem to be fine, again, according to the pattern assist which may be inaccurate. I'm not a pilot so I don't know.
Hmmm in the 172S I like to be about 60-64 knots on final. I think the published 50 foot (just before landing) airspeed on short field landings for the 172S is 61 knots. 55 is getting a little too slow for my comfort but as you cross the threshold it's probably fine.
What headtracker do you use?
thanks for this great tutorial, wondering which flight controls are you using? Thrustmaster, Logitech?? as I have Logitech 3D but have a hard time keeping the plane straight, it always curves to the left. Will be much appreciated if you let me know which controller you are using as it seems perfect. thnx
Sorry for the delayed reply, I've been out of the country (just got back last week). I use Thrustmaster T1600m or something like that. Happy flying :)
Regarding “Always curves to the left”: you’re probably experiencing a _torque left turning tendency_ which is normal for propeller aircrafts.
Great video! I always having trouble using the throttle to maintain a constant rate of descent and i always end up too low or too high on final. Also when flaring on the runway i just do it like you explained by lifting the nose up but then i end up floating above the runway and no touchdown happen. Any idea what i can do to improve?
Power needs to be set to idle when crossing the threshold, and you really want to be crossing the threshold at a low airspeed close to your published approach speed. For a Cessna 172S that’s pretty close to 160 knots.
@@atmosflight5534 Hmm i do cut the throttle when i cross the threshold and my speed is around 60 then.. should check it out more next time. Thank you!
I find that I have to manually adjust the control sensitivities for elevator and rudder to get something a bit more realistic. Adjusting sensitivities in game doesn't really help. Like every previous sim, I find it necessary to navigate to the aircraft config files and change parameters there prior to starting the sim. Once done, much of the excess jerking up and down or side to side motion is eliminated. It's a god awful path to the config files in this sim, however, so I won't bother with that unless someone wants it.
d e austin I adjusted mine. It’s helped. Rudder might need more tweaking.
me: knows how to fly with vatsim
also me: i watch video
Unable to slow my plane down, push in throttle, mixture, nothing works., when flying a 152. Or any other plane for that matter. Anyone?
But when I press left or right its too sensitive
Can you used track ir on lighted or dark room ?
Both, but better in a dark room so that the IR receivers are not interfered with by ambient light.
Great video! If i get assigned by ATC to a runway to do a visual approach on. In the air how do i line up with the correct runway? As i dont know which runway is which in the air, cheers!
Mr Scoofy couple of methods. Depends on what you’re flying. You can always use an ILS to back you up on what runway you’re flying - that’s what airliners do. Otherwise, use your airport chart (can find free ones on airnav) to see where the runway is in relation to the airport and pick it out visually.
@@atmosflight5534 Not exactly sure how im supposed to pick the runway in relation to the airport , could you maybe explain a bit more in detail? Also, what chart whould i have to look at to decide a STAR and Transition if im doing IFR?
Mr Scoofy sure. If you’re flying VFR, you should be able to navigate using a VFR sectional map, GPS, VOR etc. say you’re 10 miles south of an airport with two north south runways (36 L, 36 R). If ATC clears you to make a straight in approach for 36L, you can look at an airport map (can find them on airnav free) and you should be able to know what you’re looking for visually based on what you saw on the map and where you are in relation to the airport.
Could also set your heading as well if you don't have the charts. If runway is supposed to be 31 add a 0 to make it heading of 310 degrees to fly towards. If it's 2 it'll be heading of 20 degrees. If it's an L beside it that's left most runway for that runway. C is center and r will be right. Hope that helps
Hi, are you using a VR set?
TrackIR :)
My landings turn out to be bad probably because if you pull up and let go the planes nose stays up compared to X-Plane 11 where the if you pull up and let go the nose goes back down
For real on the rudder control though. Even on an analog stick 5% feels like it'll rip the stabilizer off.
science out there haha. I actually adjusted the rudder/elevator/aileron authority values in the flight model configuration files. Makes it feel way more realistic IMO. Overall pleased with the game, just gotta be light on the rudder pedals.
@@atmosflight5534 can you make a tutorial on how to do that?
Thanks, I'm gonna crash 100 Cessna before I come again here
How do u use ur camera so naturally?
What yoke are you using?
Thrustmaster T.16000m
I have tried this landing with med to low graphic. And it is paint full to see the runway, because it's all white 😂 hope get the better PC soon
I've actually flown that exact aircraft '358TW.
Really? Where at?
@@atmosflight5534 Shreveport
@@atmosflight5534 it's actually based out of there.
@@tuskegee87 me too! First solo was in TW :’)
@@tuskegee87 you can find it in my channel
how do i not fedex flight 80 my landings
So I’m a pilot but new to Sim. Just curious how you seemingly manipulate your viewing angle with ease. I struggle with changing views and flying. So far the real thing is much easier 😉
TrackIR
Thanks for your prompt reply and input. I’m researching it now 😊
I would love to improve my RNAV landings but the planes dont do em . The g1000/3000 are terrible .
There's a working G1000 mod I will be showcasing soon, but overall systems depth/functionality lacks in the native game. A year from now, third party devs will have much better aircraft available for RNAV/instrument stuff. Give it time.
Do you use a credit headset?
What’s a credit headset?? Lol
@@atmosflight5534 oof lol it auto corrected and I didn’t notice but I commented did you use a VR Headset but that was before I finished the video when you explained what you used so nvm.
yoke?
What are you pc specs?
Ryzen 7 3700X CPU and a 2080 Super graphics card. 32 GB ram.
VR?trackir?
TrackIR.
"And we're going to counteract that by pulling up more...more...more...tailstrike"
TheGreatestMatt #1 when I first started flying I felt I was pulling back too much, hard to tail strike a light GA airplane.
@@atmosflight5534 Nice landing though. I will say in real life after a certain pitch attitude say if your flared to high and speed bled off before you touchdown you can end up with such a high pitch that you either tailstrike or stall and smash it. In the C172, its easier to see this from the outside but it can happen. Thanks for the video.
TheGreatestMatt #1 yep. I fly IRL and plan on doing a video at the local airport comparing real world and sim stuff here.
AtmosFlight That would be great for those trying to compare realism. I fly the 172 right now irl and I’m a few hours from the ppl check ride. The 172 in the sim isn’t that far off from real life tbh but certainly flies different. I just need them to fix the winds bug and I will be on the sim practicing for sure.
fs 2020 should have made crashes more realistic like burst into flames or some shit
But if you're inside the plane and for instantly, you wouldn't see it. Seems like they've simulated it precisely. :) Other than popping up a dialog with the fateful news. They could have said how many bones were broken, number of survivors though. ;)
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First time with the TBM 930!
P.S.-A casual flight. I dont know how operate the TBM.