The frustrating thing is that Pickton wasn't a bad genius or anything, the police just weren't interested in missing women. They could have saved dozens of people.
You are right about that. I’m just across the pond on the island and women were going missing left and right. There were a few officers that worked the east side and were ringing the alarm bells for years before the higher-ups actually started doing something about it. When it comes to investigating serial homicide if the women are street workers or marginalized no one seems to care. It’s like they have this attitude of “well if it’s prostitutes then I’m safe” or “it’s just prostitutes” and they carry on with their day. But the reality is these are still people. They’re mother’s, daughters, sisters, and friends to someone and we should all care. These women were discarded long before Pickton entered the picture. It’s so sad that this attitude is seemingly global. There’s a documentary about the people of the east side called Through A Blue Lens (and a few others that are really good if you’re interested). It was made by two police offers who worked that area. And they were trying to do something about the missing women long before anyone took a serious look at what was happening. They were ringing the alarm but no one was listening. The doc is good and really compassionate.
-"A bunch of missing women and one showing up with a stab wound? What else you got for us?" -"Ummm. He's got a pair of nunchucks he's probably not supposed to have." -"We're on our way."
Nobody cares if you hack up 50 homeless women. If you have a gun that the government thinks is scary, or if you didn’t pay your taxes, they’ll lock you up and throw away the key
The local PD sound like they're the friggin Keystone cops. I wonder if food items made with the rendering plant's product, had a "CONTAINS ANTIFREEZE" on their ingredients labels ? Wanting to feed the homeless is one thing, but not to the local population.
I live in Canada and just heard yesterday that Robert Pickton has died. He was apparently beaten in prison, was in a coma and just passed the day before.
A native woman I knew told me she used to live in the East End when all this was going down. She used to go to the same bar and almost every day she would see "Mr. Picton" drinking while his brother just sat at the bar with him. He would buy her drinks. One time, he asked her if she wanted to go back to his place in Coquitlam to party with him. She said, "no, I only party downtown". That statement probably saved her life because it was less than a year later he was caught.
I was a flight attendant for WestJet (Canada’s second largest airline) for 12 years. Worked with a woman who spent her early 20’s living the downtown east side lifestyle. She was picked up by a man. He headed a different direction than they had agreed upon. She had a bad feeling and ended up jumping out of the moving vehicle and ran. 8 years later the Picton case broke and she recognized him immediately. So scary!
Gotta hand it to the guy for keeping his composure and his cover intact after hearing Picton say all that. It would be interesting to hear what was actually going through his mind at that time. And how he slept for the rest of that night, *if* he could sleep at all.
that's how u talk to these psychos.. this is what John Douglas theorized in his book, u have to talk the same as the psychos for them to open up.. u can see it in Mindhunter
It’s hard for me to even fathom eating what I would be thinking was sausage, candy, and other perishables when in fact I would be eating that with also human remains
In the States, police only fight like 4% of violent crime. If you look at serial killers, they'all always say the killers were so smart but when you dig into the stories, the cops were just negligent and incompetent and that's why they didn't get caught.
the most disturbing thing was how he disposed of the bodies. that means someone ate them without realizing it, then mixing the ground meat into sausages an feeding it to people around town. that is a texas chainsaw massacre and Hannibal lectar all in one.
This still happens today as we know it just everyone wanna be blind an comfortable where you think cheap fast food places get they meats from and where a lot of missing people cases go especially kids like this world gets deeply morbid when you start talking bout corruption
Wendy was lying even though she was stabbed, fought for her life, and her story completely lined up with the handcuff key. OKAY. Disgusting misjudgment.
so its not entirely unbelievable. keep in mind these women were typically druggies or hookers apparently. So his story also made sense that he caught her stealing. obviously not in hindsight but when it happened it would be a he said she said situation which would be very hard to prove one way or the other.
Grew up 20 minutes from the Pickton farm. My buddy used to collect golf balls off their property when they were kids and found purses and wallets several times but didn’t think much about it. The brother was cool to them, he showed them where the most golf balls were, and let them go nuts. I also knew people who partied there later on. Wild story!! Love the channel!!
Ah yes. Vancouver PD’s finest were on this case. Terrible for the victims. Would’ve been far, far fewer if they’d listened. I suppose, in one way or another, some of those same cops ended up eating the girls they were supposed to be looking for while they were partying at the Piggy Palace. A cruel and morbid sense of payback.
Also not to be too much a dick but junkies are everywhere in Vancouver especially downtown and they're always causing problems, I don't really blame the vpd for not believing crackheads because usually its best not to.
Vancouver has possibly the worst police force in Western society, and their incompetence is fueled by terrible policies. When I went up there for business the personal horror stories people have told me is worthy of this channel.
Knowing now that this creep put human remains in a rendering plant, and that those remains probably made it to where I live (Washington state), makes me worried that during the time this happened, I could have been a cannibal without even knowing it. That is just sick!
It must be true when the city allowed pedophiles to roam freely around "kiddie corner" just says something about the politicians and police force running the city
One of the reasons why I left Canada after 7 years forever as an international student. I lived in Columbia street at Columbia hotel for a long long time. Canada has a reputation to be a good place to live.....it might be but Vancouver is completely f.........d up. I have witness small issues down the street with sick people where for 1 single homeless drunk , 2 police cars came and 6 cops around him !!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely ridiculous..........Also the immigration policy of Canada is a bit messed up. They promise you a PR after your PGWP and ultimately they send you home likely behind explanations that you need a lawyer to understand. I am an Italian and was ok for me to come back in my beautiful country, but during my bachelor degree at BCIT ( where lots of employees don't know absolutely how to perform their jobs and are very rude ) I have met lots of people from poor countries and for them Canada was like the American dream in the 70's. Keeping in touch with many of them , I have discovered that most of them where sent back home after the end of their programs. . . Canada goverment is making millions on international students playing down at certain point. Living in the east side , I had the chance to talk with many homeless people..they just need someone to talk with and not get easy drugs everywhere. Canada has completely messed up this situation and is unable to find a solution. I HAVE HEARD MILLION OF TIMES " SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY " ....they apologize for every single bullshits. Ridiculous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The fact is many of them don't want to talk to you because you are international and is kind of you "steal jobs " for Canadians.... Don't give me wrong , my country has lots of issues too but it doesn't sell shit for gold to immigrants. Who comes here already knows that we are having issues with job market and politicians aren't really ok. But at least we are honest since the outset....God bless you Canadians and stop apologize for everything: apologize continuously isn't synonyms of be educated at all but a poker face to me !!!!
@@veng3r663 that was a comedy and had nothing to do with actual pigs. The movie is basically about a group of high school nincompoops who wanted to hire a prostitute to lose their virginity so they go to a strip club owned by a guy named Porky, hence the name "Porky's".
It's funny how the stabbed handcuffed woman had evidence of her account (handcuff key on the man) , yet the man just says his lie and had no proof and the cops just take his word over hers. Disgusting .
@Random you mean your interpretation of what you just watched what that this woman who fought back and stabbed her attacker in the face, then ran bleeding next door to call the police, then willingly told the police what happened, just gave up after the psycho with the handcuff key and stabbed face denied it?? that's astonishing.
Hi. My aunt Florence Lands was in the first original missing poster and assumed victim of robert picton. Her sister collected an amount of money as compensation of her being a victim. In the end she was found in Sask, canada living in a smaller community and a quiet life. I think they found either dna or identification from her at the farm. She has since passed but it was a major story for a bit
My step-sister was a prostitute, a drug addict, and was murdered, her murder was never solved. Granted, it wasn't in this manner, but it's important to note that despite these women leading these troubled lives, they are still human beings and deserve better. They have families who love them and miss them, and go everyday with a lot of unanswered questions. I only hope the families of these victims were able to get their questions answered about their loved ones...
My sincerest condolances on the loss of your step-sister. Thanks for writing about her. Your thoughts are real as well as spot-on. Hang in there and hopefully whoever is responsible is brought to justice.
I can't imagine what you're going through and I'm so sorry for your loss. I agree with you 100%, just because someone has made bad choices or been put into a bad situation out of their control the best thing to do is try to help them not call them bad people because of it.
Yep they just need the help they actually need the shit at the heart of why they do drugs and why the whore themselves out. Its a shame but they are the forgotten like with homeless that I fear will never be solved cuz at just one point or another people who can help give up. And I get it some people just wanna destroy themselves but no one is born that way. No one...
@@kennyhuston I appreciate that. It's been almost 10 years, and still not any easier. She was the oldest in our family, I was the youngest, and I used to sleep in her room when I was a kid because she made me feel safe,
"He is a serial killer" Canadian police: "Eh, not enough evidence" "He's got some contraband guns on his farm" Canadian police: "OH THAT'S IT, NOW WE'RE SEARCHING EVERY INCH OF THE PLACE!!!"
It's not about the reason but about the fact that they can prove it with evidence. They could not prove him to be a serial killer without bodies for evidence. But they could prove the illegal weapons. However, the police did ignore the disappearance of the sex workers.
The bassist for a band I’m a Tour Manager for loves your videos and watches them in the hotel after a show. I now watch your videos all the time. Thanks to Jason for sharing and thanks to you for creating!!
One of my friends was a forensic student who spent her summer on that farm sifting through the mud and manure for these women’s remains. She wasn’t allowed to talk about it much but she said it was horrific.
Imagine being a woman in the late 90s in Vancouver who loves eating gummy bears, wearing red lipstick, and goes to charity parties then hearing this on the news.
@@rokukou yeah, don't make much difference. I guess if your Squeamish, but you can die or contract disease from consuming human meat being a human. Idk what its called but your brain basically gets a shit load of holes in it.
"Hey this guy is murdering women. We've seen clothes, purses, he's always picking up women where they're going missing." Police: "nah. Thats not enough to warrant a search." "Okay. He has illegal weapons." Police: "WHAT!!!!! We'll be arriving immediately. " Thats a broken system if I've ever heard one.
think about it like this if a judge signed off on that and it lead to a conviction it could be argued that suffienct evidence was not given for a search warrant which could lead to the entire case being thrown out and him. having women choltes and purses is not enough for a warret espiclly if you host giant parties
My teacher who was an ex-cop worked the Robert Pikton case. He showed us internal videos and pictures and damn, the whole place is literally a crime scene. Everyone wore special equipment and I’m still surprised how those officers are able to smile. It’s an insane scene.
It’s sad when your country is more worried about illegal weapons than literal humans who went missing and people repeatedly telling you that the guy you investigated for illegal weapons is the murderer
A girl I went to school with shares his last name and is actually his neice. She had to leave from school from constant bullying. We are still in touch. This guy has driven her to change her last name . Completely ruined both the victims families and his own.
What about all the families that he ruined? They can just change their names, move, or whatever. Their family is whole, the victims families are forever ruined. A painful, horrific murder that will never go away, no matter what their names are, or where they live.
@@evafleury5538 ....Sorry ..but how does this take away from the victims Families..?.ITS all around awful for everyone involved... I'm a local and I know a few of them personally.. It's all around tragic. I was more so pointing out a very unknown unfortunate reality of being related to a serial killer. It not only ruins victims families but it destroys their own. That last name here in Canada is forever associated with his acts. It's not hard to conclude how bad the victims families have it from his acts...but the topic of serial killers relatives is barely shined on . It's worth making awareness.. I've seen the damages first hand. From both sides . The damages extend deep on both ends ... and I'll NEVER under estimate the pain it has caused to each party.
@@tacomctacov2622 True but usually people use CLICK BAIT because their video SUUUCKS. With John, there's truth to it and worth the little click bait. Right...
My kitten loves watching mrballen. I don’t know why but when she hears him she’ll run out of no where and just be in a trance. I’ve been trying to catch a picture or video of her trying to reach out and touch him. Im happy that I have someone that loves listening to his stories as much as I do in my house😅
@@jillibeens57 Yeah it was really scary when her mom and sister were trying to get a hold of us years after we moved from Vancouver and they couldn’t find her💔 but I think my wanna be cop sister helped in placing her as one of his potential victims and omgosh its just horrendous that all thus went on but I think could’ve been possibly not prevented but so many lives could’ve been spared. She got into drugs & subsequently prostitution to support her habit and it’s a familiar tale that people who live risky lifestyles are Not a priority to law enforcement which is Disgusting in itself! It will haunt me forever 😕Thank you for your comment🙏🏻🌷💖
A woman described an attack with handcuffs on and a man walks in with injuries accurate to the attack AND he had keys to the handcuffs and the coppers were just like “damn bro that’s crazy but... uh”
@Justin Macisaac is Canada as good as the people on social media claim? I see a bunch of people talk shit on the US even my friend since kindergarten says that the US is a third world country with makeup and I’m just like “you gotta be really privileged to think that the US is a third world country” like there’s so many worse countries to be in, needless to say I’m not friends with that person anymore lol
This was truly horrifying on so many levels! And the idea that people were inadvertently ingesting pieces of these women, or using make up made partially from them....you just never know how close and how often evil comes to you in your lifetime.
This story is right up there with 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.' Who cares if they have mental disorders? Just take 'em out back, one slug behind their ear, save the taxpayers MILLIONS, but "NO! We CAN'T do THAT?" 🤪 Bleeding heart liberals are the reason why so many innocent people suffer in this world. They protect the criminals, but kill the innocent.
I've been face to face with a murderer (who tried to get me to get in his car), & someone who was an accomplice to a different murder. Both interactions happened when I was 18.
@@glenturney4750 you do know that the way you are talking also puts you under that category of being taken and shot there's a reason we don't shoot idiots because I would have to kill all of you guys example the way you are talking borderline domestic terrorism look it up anything that goes against the will of the people or the country can fall under that category disagreeing with the current government power falls under that category which is why we no longer take people out there to shoot them because we would be shooting all of you. Example what happened at the Capitol building that's considered domestic terrorism one of the few things that you can still get death by firing squad for or don't like a certain president and you post something bad about them on social media you can be shot for that just be happy that you live in America and we tolerate stupidity here.
I love that you covered this story. I live not too far away from Port Coquitlam. Funny enough, my family bought pork from the Pickton's obviously before we ever knew of the crimes they had been committing, nevertheless the fact they ground their victims into mush and blended them with their pigs. Just a point though, Robert Pickton was never known as the "Piggy Palace Murderer/Massacre". Robert Pickton is known as the "Pickton Pig Farmer Killer". Yes, lol - us Canadians are very literal!
That's one of the reasons I'd never want to be a serial killer, so hard to get full credit for each kill. The other reason being I don't really want to kill people.
I lived in Vancouver at the time and remember the indigenous community screaming that there was a serial killer targeting the downtown east side and the Vancouver police simply ignored them for years. It truly seemed that the social class of the victims played a significant role in the response of the Vancouver police.. We can only speculate how many of these women could have been saved if someone at the VPD had listened.
@Tab Slab are you mad because you know the only way you can get someone to sleep with you is by paying for it? it's not the sex workers' fault, man. that's on you lol.
The VPD have started to get their act together in Recent years, luckily. Hopefully there wont be any more of these incidents around Vancouver and the Lower Mainland itself.
When my mom was a young teenager her and her friend met a guy that wanted to take them for "a ride"... They were gonna do it until an older woman stopped it and called the police. Later my mom found out that the same guy that tried taking them for a ride was a man that would lure woman to Pigton Farm for this psychopath for money. My mom and her friend would probably be dead today if that woman didn't stop them... it's so insane to think about.
A friend of mine, and the man who prosecuted Pickton, Mike Petrie, just passed about 6 weeks ago from COVID. Thank you for your service Mike, and rest easy.
I grew up in the town and this story was kind of a town legend. My parents met one of the investigators when they finally got around to solving this case. Good video.
Not a story ....real life horror non-fiction. I knew the brothers and unfortunately was at the farm but fortunately survived the horror to be a witness for the trial... And recovered. But I do agree that Mr Ballen is a fabulous teller of all these events!!!! 🤍
Hi. My mother is Georgina Papin. I am Kristina Bateman, her eldest daughter.. She went missing when I was 14. She was one of his victims and he was charged with her murder. They only found her hand. She had 7 kids and will never meet her grandkids. She was a beautiful First Nations woman and there is so much more to her.. I might have this case re opened because I believe there were more involved. I may even talk to Robert myself.
Yes outstanding content! Found him about month ago , binge watched the entire channel list now sitting on go waiting for new stuff ! Lol great story teller
12-9-24 now and I'm watching this one again! Once again I'm in complete awe! For the life of me I can NOT figure out how MrBallen got ALL those birds to keep flying in circles like that for the ENTIRE video!!! I mean, the finished video is a little over 13 minutes but you know it took WAY longer than that to film and those birds are there from start to finish! Awesome job Bud! LMBO!! Great video as always!! Even after the 5th or 6th time I've watched it now!!
@Cal Rogers imagine knowing English isn't everyone's first language 🤯 I personally couldn't imagine disregarding someone's comment and just attempting to fire a cheap shot instead.
One of the mother's of one of the victims.. After ONE DAY of looking for her daughter found herself outside of the Pickton Farm. Police couldn't do shit over 3 years RIP JENNY
Woman: I was attacked by that guy on the pig farm which has a charity, throws drug parties, and for some reason women vanish at these parties. He tried to attack me, he had hand cuffs. Robert: has key to handcuff. Police: while what you say seems true, you're a poor woman. You do drugs. Obviously you're lying.
@Eric Floyd ur a simp if u thought he was being misogynistic when he said "you're a poor woman. you do drugs". context, dude. google it. reading comprehension, attain it
#believemen, just because Robert was a disgusting creep with a bald rat tail, and just so happened to actually be the killer, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t just believe what he says, just because of his gender
I am completely obsessed with this channel. Soon I'm going to run out of videos and I'll be subject to wait for his weekly episodes. That will be depressing.
@@thetruesopop I thought your mother's name was Christina. (Edit: English is not my first language and I thought I had misspelled "mother's" but after some research it seems that it was correct.)
I knew this story and hesitated to hear it again, but Mr. Ballen´s unique and somehow soothing, hand-holding, humane delivery of all things grizzly, convinced me to give it a go. Didn´t disappoint. Thanks Mr. Ballen!
@@braveheart2785 I´m a woman, dumbass. Edit: Oh, you mean "gay" as in millenial-speak for lame? Oh ok, its just that my name generates confusion all the time. Sorry little boy "brave heart"
This is a very well known story around here and I actually met Robert Pickton who was pretty weird. The general feeling is that he was not alone in this and probably his brother was involved too but was never charged.
@@4everfreethinkerNot at all: He owned a place on Tannery Rd in Surrey that sold items from old buildings that had been torn down. I was looking for an old paned wooden window to turn into a mirror and had been there many times to find antique doorknobs and doors. This time, Robert Picton was there with his friend and he was virtually comatose. He managed to direct me to an old trailer way in the back of the property and I remember thinking that if anything happened to me ,I would never be found. He took my money but wouldn't look at me while I was paying. This is not an "in hindsight" feeling but I honestly was creeped out at the time.
I grew up next to this place during that time - we could hear the noise from the parties when they were really going at it (faintly). It is amazing how bad the police screwed this one up. They had undercover cops working these parties and everything. His brother definitely was involved or at the very least knew, plus the huge connection with the HA who used his place as a party ground. So many connections that never went anywhere and so many voices giving warnings that fell on deaf ears.
I don’t watch scary movies, I don’t read scary books, literally anything with horror I stay away from. I’ve been that way since I was a child. But I’m a huge fan of phenomenal orators and story tellers and I’m completely hooked on your videos. I’m a professional magician and just like magic, story telling is an art. You have a spectacular ability to articulate yourself as well as anyone I’ve ever heard. Your video was randomly recommended to me about 2 weeks ago and I’ve watched damn near every video that you’ve posted. I genuinely can’t stop watching them. The passion that you have for getting these stories out to the world is infectious and you’ve inspired me more than you will ever know. Definitely keep up the amazing work that you’re doing. Lol I don’t even know you and yet I’m still proud of you!!
Living through this while it happened, i cant believe this story was only 12 minutes long. this was so crazy and bizarre and so many people were there while it was going on
My best friend in high schools mother was murdered by Robert.. my friend suffered so much and even attempted to take her own life while we were friends. She’s doing much better now in life and even has a baby girl. No one thinks BC can be a dangerous place but it really can be just like any other place..
So sorry to hear that - and to know that her death was very likely preventable if police had done their f-ing jobs. Please send all best wishes and support to your friend & her family from a fellow Canadian over here in Ontario.
I’m so sorry your friend had to endure the loss of her mom and the travesty of the investigation. I’m glad to hear she is doing well and is a mom herself.
My mom’s friend used to be in the party scene and was invited to a piggy palace party. She declined, but her other friend went. Thankfully she left with the majority of the other guests.
I live in Vancouver Canada and at the time this was happening I was in recovery dealing with a nasty addiction issue. A girl I had become friends with while I was using Andrea B, was one of the last victims whose remains were found on the farm. This was one of the most horrific cases in B.C. to date. Adding to it the complete lack of interest by the police, which cost the lives of so many more of these women. Thanks for covering this one John and doing so accurately and respectfully and thank you for your perfect pronunciation of Coquitlam😁💙🙏
Is Andrea B a drug? Or should you have placed a comma after "using"? Why does no one proofread their stupid comments?
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@@5Ci0N I think what you mean to ask for is "evidence". No one has proof of shit. Proofs are limited to mathematics. The rest of the shit you think you know is based on evidence; not proofs.
A few years after Pickton was arrested there was a radio station looking for the "Joke of the Year" where participants would phone in their jokes for a chance to win. Eventually, it was won by a 10 year old boy with this joke: "How did Robert Pickton get caught?" "How?" "His pigs squealed on him."
Back when I used to not only use but sell drugs(clean/sober 30yrs now) I would sell gummy bears that had liquid LSD in them for $10 each out of the bar I worked at at the time. Had best bears in Dallas !!! LoL
Good video. I live about five blocks from the farm and have met many people who went to the Piggy Palace. It's now mostly town houses but there's a bunch of cows on part of it...
I think it is because of his ego. He wanted to be the only one who killed 50 (49) woman in the history books. If anyone else was in on it, he wouldn't get the whole credit.
I grew up not far from the farm and still live in the area today. It is unbelievable that his brother was never charged, there is no way he didn't know exactly what was going on and/or participated in the rapes and murders of the women. This whole case has been handled so poorly by the RCMP. My heart goes out to all of the families.
I grew up in vancouver and delta and abbotsford. Serial killer capital of the world. I was in trouble on drugs and was in Jail with pickton. Me and my cellmate if we could have would smash him. I hate violence but man 40 women is so wrong and justice needed doing and jail is not enough. we were in supermax though and nothing ever will or would come to him they had him so closed off even from the protective custody rapists and tabboo criminals. I am sober today and I dont box anymore but if I could have for the victims I would have cracked him with the hardest right hook and then taken being jumped on by 7 guards and spend a month in the hole. I am sober and trying to write my life story today. peace
@@mstwelvedeadlycyns she didn’t know until the news broke out about him. My best friend grew up a few doors down from his house. No joke of a lie, or was some creepy crap
Whistleblower: "This guy makes women disappear!" Police: "Sorry, We're not interested." "But, He has a gun!" Police: "That's serious, Let's search the property Till Kingdom Come!" o.O
Thank you MrBallen for always being kind and not showing pictures of the dead. I am sure some these stories have some pictures that are really bad 😔. Again thank you.
my aunty is a addict and she used to go to his parties she said they generally knew picton was killing women but still went for the free drugs you just had to “not be the last one left.”
@@codykhaos4987 Was as perplexed as you so googled. Found nothing for picktone party so tried Canadian roulette, which is something else I'd never heard of. Discovered this; "A popular Canadian drinking game where you take 6 cans of Molson Canadian and shake one vigorously. You then mix them up and 6 people must select a can to drink. The person who gets the exploding can must chug their beer." The fact that players PICK ONE. This has led me to believe that a picktone party is actually a typo and they meant to say a pick one party. 😁 Or, you could just ignore all that cos, I've just been reminded that the brothers' name was Pickton. 😁😁
@@codykhaos4987 a Russian roulette Picton party is when instead of bullets going in gun and one coming out a few dozen drug addicted women go in and 1 doesn't come out. That is androids touch.
We all have our own skeletons in our closets and we all fight our own individual demons that we fight. It doesn't make a person any less of a human being because of this. I lost a family member to a serial killer ( who still hasn't been caught) and it breaks my heart that these monsters hunt someone who is already down on their luck
@@calvinthedestroyer You think they receive complete cadavers at those plants? No. They receive whatever can not be used for human consumption (eyeballs, ligaments, toe-nails, etc), all in a disgusting blob. What I find also disgusting is people eating cadavers at all. Because when you think of it, dismantled animal remains and human remains look exactly the same.
I grew up near the lower mainland playing basketball. And right when it was all discovered we had a basketball tourney in the area. And I gotta say, it was just extremely dark and eerie looking at the place. We walked by the farm everyday, couldn’t imagine what went on there.. RIP to all who lost their lives there.
This was by Terry Fox secondary. We came for a basketball torunament im the summer of 2001 and walked through the property. Very creepy thinking about it when it came out in the news Decemeber 2001.
And to think that they owned most of the land that all that development was done. His brother sold most of it (the small amount of farm they investigated) was just what they had left for themselves. There very well could be remains under a number of those houses. I grew up right there and seeing this all unfold was crazy.
Seeing that undercover officer acting tough and cursing in the most… unconventional way possible, actually made me appreciate the art of cursing even more than I already did. It was so bad, I lost track on what he was trying to asked in the first place.
@Oliver Von arx Yeah it's ones like that and on this case that can make it hard for the good ones to standout and get the credit they deserve. I'm sorry that happened to you but thankfully nothing happened to you, other then the unfortunate metaphorical backhand from that officer.
was young when this happened (around 8) but I remember living very close to that area as a kid and hearing about the missing women made me scared. My mother was going to go to one of these parties but I pretended to be sick that night to make her stay home. I will never be sure if she knew I was faking but I like to think that overwhelming fear is what saved my mothers life. After Pickton got caught my mother made us move.
I'm so glad you did that, you just may have been your mom's guardian angel that night. Thank God she had enough sense to stay home with you as some of the people that went there had no sense. Knowing there's a killer amongst them and going anyways
His brother still walks free and definitely had something to do with the farm. It’s also scary because so many women are going missing in the lower mainland of Vancouver right now
That guy should definitely be behind bars with his brother... The fact that he has been spotted speaking to women around 2012 in the same area the victims worked is enough to have him locked up imo. Dude was also charged with sexual assault in 1992. It has also been reported that he was the dominant brother and would order his little brother around, I wouldn't be surprised if he orchestrated everything.
Very sad that many of the women that come up missing are prostitutes and not taken seriously until it is too late. They are people too and someone’s loved ones.
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Can you imagine sleeping next to a guy who was just complaining about how he needed to kill just one more person to make it an even 50.
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@@MrBallen No, Mr Ballen, those are the wrong emojis. I wouldnt be feeling "mildly happy" in this situation...
The guy wasn't a criminal either. He was just some dude playing another dude.
Undercover cop was probably looking up at the camera and be like get me the hell out of here
@@csar07. 🤣
The frustrating thing is that Pickton wasn't a bad genius or anything, the police just weren't interested in missing women. They could have saved dozens of people.
As far as the cops were concerned, he was cleaning up the city!
You are right about that. I’m just across the pond on the island and women were going missing left and right. There were a few officers that worked the east side and were ringing the alarm bells for years before the higher-ups actually started doing something about it. When it comes to investigating serial homicide if the women are street workers or marginalized no one seems to care. It’s like they have this attitude of “well if it’s prostitutes then I’m safe” or “it’s just prostitutes” and they carry on with their day. But the reality is these are still people. They’re mother’s, daughters, sisters, and friends to someone and we should all care. These women were discarded long before Pickton entered the picture. It’s so sad that this attitude is seemingly global. There’s a documentary about the people of the east side called Through A Blue Lens (and a few others that are really good if you’re interested). It was made by two police offers who worked that area. And they were trying to do something about the missing women long before anyone took a serious look at what was happening. They were ringing the alarm but no one was listening. The doc is good and really compassionate.
@@aniverse5050 what are you talking about
@@aniverse5050 damn if that's true then no one is safe from police brutality
@John Doe I see
-"A bunch of missing women and one showing up with a stab wound? What else you got for us?"
-"Ummm. He's got a pair of nunchucks he's probably not supposed to have."
-"We're on our way."
No wonder east side didn’t trust the authorities. They’d lose an elephant standing in front of them.
Nobody cares if you hack up 50 homeless women. If you have a gun that the government thinks is scary, or if you didn’t pay your taxes, they’ll lock you up and throw away the key
The local PD sound like they're the friggin Keystone cops. I wonder if food items made with the rendering plant's product, had a "CONTAINS ANTIFREEZE" on their ingredients labels ? Wanting to feed the homeless is one thing, but not to the local population.
And a pair of scissors 😂😂😂
Well Canada also doesn’t support free speech so it’s believable this is what happened.
I live in Canada and just heard yesterday that Robert Pickton has died. He was apparently beaten in prison, was in a coma and just passed the day before.
Thank you for the update!
Please be true Please be true Please be true Please be true
A native woman I knew told me she used to live in the East End when all this was going down. She used to go to the same bar and almost every day she would see "Mr. Picton" drinking while his brother just sat at the bar with him. He would buy her drinks. One time, he asked her if she wanted to go back to his place in Coquitlam to party with him. She said, "no, I only party downtown". That statement probably saved her life because it was less than a year later he was caught.
I'd say that statement saved her life. Thank God.
I find it pretty surprising the brother wasnt charged with anything.
@@jimbo4375 Cops don't care.
Yeah there was also other native woman that did die on that farm .. But her maken that statment saved her life for shure
@The Man Delorean Cops were slow to act and ignored a couple of warnings. Hence why this guy was able to make bails and kill 49 people
I was a flight attendant for WestJet (Canada’s second largest airline) for 12 years. Worked with a woman who spent her early 20’s living the downtown east side lifestyle. She was picked up by a man. He headed a different direction than they had agreed upon. She had a bad feeling and ended up jumping out of the moving vehicle and ran. 8 years later the Picton case broke and she recognized him immediately. So scary!
Wow, that crazy. It’s a small world I guess, she made the right choice.
Oh my gosh! That’s crazy! Thank you for sharing!
Cap
@@milkman169yearsago7 _No spreken ze englesh?_ Da Cap¿
@@Eliqueme i am english
undercover officer: "if i just swear a lot he'll have no idea" lmao
Gotta hand it to the guy for keeping his composure and his cover intact after hearing Picton say all that. It would be interesting to hear what was actually going through his mind at that time. And how he slept for the rest of that night, *if* he could sleep at all.
This is a good trick that can help convict criminals.
that's how u talk to these psychos.. this is what John Douglas theorized in his book, u have to talk the same as the psychos for them to open up.. u can see it in Mindhunter
Thats what I was thinking LMFAO 😭
I WAS SEEING THE SAME THING LMFAO
A common theme in these horrible murder stories is police being completely incompetent.
It's absolutely maddening and despicable
It’s hard for me to even fathom eating what I would be thinking was sausage, candy, and other perishables when in fact I would be eating that with also human remains
I came here to say exactly that. It's disgusting.
I've heard a LOT about Vancouver PD and RCMP being grossly incompetent over the last forty years. heartbreaking
In the States, police only fight like 4% of violent crime. If you look at serial killers, they'all always say the killers were so smart but when you dig into the stories, the cops were just negligent and incompetent and that's why they didn't get caught.
@@debrajones4010what does this comment have to do with what that person said about the police???
"she stabbed him in the face"
Good.
About 2 feet to high
She is feisty. That's what it takes to survive life/death situation.
Most handcuff keys are universal, discrepancies everywhere,
I'm so mad that he had the handcuff key in his pocket and they still let him go.
@@stephenc2481 i would probably just give up and die-
the most disturbing thing was how he disposed of the bodies. that means someone ate them without realizing it, then mixing the ground meat into sausages an feeding it to people around town. that is a texas chainsaw massacre and Hannibal lectar all in one.
Its a known fact around town that he sold the pig meat...worst part is most of people who bought it was family and friends of theirs.
Motel hell
This still happens today as we know it just everyone wanna be blind an comfortable where you think cheap fast food places get they meats from and where a lot of missing people cases go especially kids like this world gets deeply morbid when you start talking bout corruption
You've think the anti freeze would hurt you
@@brittanydaniels2281 man that's absolutely horrific, i would endlessly feel sick after hearing that
Wendy was lying even though she was stabbed, fought for her life, and her story completely lined up with the handcuff key. OKAY. Disgusting misjudgment.
Pig Cops were basically outright helping him out...
Yeah but the other one was a rich and respected filthy failed pig farmer... (/s just to make sure)
@@kymo6343 so pigs helping pigs?
the word is cover up
so its not entirely unbelievable. keep in mind these women were typically druggies or hookers apparently. So his story also made sense that he caught her stealing. obviously not in hindsight but when it happened it would be a he said she said situation which would be very hard to prove one way or the other.
Grew up 20 minutes from the Pickton farm. My buddy used to collect golf balls off their property when they were kids and found purses and wallets several times but didn’t think much about it. The brother was cool to them, he showed them where the most golf balls were, and let them go nuts. I also knew people who partied there later on. Wild story!! Love the channel!!
Actually crazy imo.
The people who you knew that partied there are inadvertently cannibals.
Did any of you just randomly see one of this guys videos in your recommended section and now you can't stop watching?
yup.
I'd love to have him as a roommate...I'd never leave the house.
Yessss
Ah yes sir
Well I saw a few of his videos but I stopped watching as horror videos just aren't for me, but I watch him occasionally
Ah yes. Vancouver PD’s finest were on this case. Terrible for the victims. Would’ve been far, far fewer if they’d listened. I suppose, in one way or another, some of those same cops ended up eating the girls they were supposed to be looking for while they were partying at the Piggy Palace. A cruel and morbid sense of payback.
you changed your name no wonder i couldnt find you!
Hmmm i don't think vpd officers were partying in port coquitlam, there really no reason to party in poco when u have the Granville strip in Vancouver.
Also not to be too much a dick but junkies are everywhere in Vancouver especially downtown and they're always causing problems, I don't really blame the vpd for not believing crackheads because usually its best not to.
@@outko24 you would think with how often killers target vulnerable communities like that that cops would be more inclined to believe them
Rob you will ALWAYS be Rob Dyke to me ! Glad to see ya
“The gelatin from his victims was made into everyday items like lipstick and gummy bears”
*me putting down the bag of gummy bears I been eatin*
And I’m the sausages that were being given to neighbors and other organizations
One of the worst things I have ever heard
@@scoopem1 Orphanages too.
"Takes and eats a handful of your gummy bears"
These gummy bears hit different.
*eyes glow red*
@@scoopem1 neighbours
@@matthewtaylor6533 British.
Vancouver has possibly the worst police force in Western society, and their incompetence is fueled by terrible policies. When I went up there for business the personal horror stories people have told me is worthy of this channel.
Knowing now that this creep put human remains in a rendering plant, and that those remains probably made it to where I live (Washington state), makes me worried that during the time this happened, I could have been a cannibal without even knowing it. That is just sick!
@@garrettbays6942the 1970s movie Prime Cut deals with this subject matter
It must be true when the city allowed pedophiles to roam freely around "kiddie corner" just says something about the politicians and police force running the city
One of the reasons why I left Canada after 7 years forever as an international student. I lived in Columbia street at Columbia hotel for a long long time. Canada has a reputation to be a good place to live.....it might be but Vancouver is completely f.........d up. I have witness small issues down the street with sick people where for 1 single homeless drunk , 2 police cars came and 6 cops around him !!!!!!!!!!!!! Absolutely ridiculous..........Also the immigration policy of Canada is a bit messed up. They promise you a PR after your PGWP and ultimately they send you home likely behind explanations that you need a lawyer to understand.
I am an Italian and was ok for me to come back in my beautiful country, but during my bachelor degree at BCIT ( where lots of employees don't know absolutely how to perform their jobs and are very rude ) I have met lots of people from poor countries and for them Canada was like the American dream in the 70's. Keeping in touch with many of them , I have discovered that most of them where sent back home after the end of their programs. . . Canada goverment is making millions on international students playing down at certain point.
Living in the east side , I had the chance to talk with many homeless people..they just need someone to talk with and not get easy drugs everywhere.
Canada has completely messed up this situation and is unable to find a solution.
I HAVE HEARD MILLION OF TIMES " SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY " ....they apologize for every single bullshits. Ridiculous !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The fact is many of them don't want to talk to you because you are international and is kind of you "steal jobs " for Canadians....
Don't give me wrong , my country has lots of issues too but it doesn't sell shit for gold to immigrants.
Who comes here already knows that we are having issues with job market and politicians aren't really ok.
But at least we are honest since the outset....God bless you Canadians and stop apologize for everything: apologize continuously isn't synonyms of be educated at all but a poker face to me !!!!
By watching these videos I'd say Fresno is pretty bad too
"Piggy Palace Good Times Society" sounds like something right out of a horror movie. Just the name creeps me out.
Wasn't there some movie back in the 80's called Porky's..?
yea ME TOO
@@veng3r663 that was a comedy and had nothing to do with actual pigs. The movie is basically about a group of high school nincompoops who wanted to hire a prostitute to lose their virginity so they go to a strip club owned by a guy named Porky, hence the name "Porky's".
Totally agree, “piggy palace” uhm no thank you. I hear chainsaws or pigs squealing.
Piggy Palace....here I thought it was a great place for Miss Piggy and the pigs from the Muppet Show (LoL) and CL was the MC (hint hint)
The fact that this one has a warning makes me click FASTER
Yes
Lol ikr
*Me too man!*
same
That was probably the intention
It's funny how the stabbed handcuffed woman had evidence of her account (handcuff key on the man) , yet the man just says his lie and had no proof and the cops just take his word over hers. Disgusting .
@Random you mean your interpretation of what you just watched what that this woman who fought back and stabbed her attacker in the face, then ran bleeding next door to call the police, then willingly told the police what happened, just gave up after the psycho with the handcuff key and stabbed face denied it?? that's astonishing.
Happened to me too. Bro code 💯
Police were co-conspirators.
White privilege
Sadly, most cops are completely incompetent.
Hi. My aunt Florence Lands was in the first original missing poster and assumed victim of robert picton. Her sister collected an amount of money as compensation of her being a victim. In the end she was found in Sask, canada living in a smaller community and a quiet life. I think they found either dna or identification from her at the farm. She has since passed but it was a major story for a bit
My step-sister was a prostitute, a drug addict, and was murdered, her murder was never solved. Granted, it wasn't in this manner, but it's important to note that despite these women leading these troubled lives, they are still human beings and deserve better. They have families who love them and miss them, and go everyday with a lot of unanswered questions. I only hope the families of these victims were able to get their questions answered about their loved ones...
My sincerest condolances on the loss of your step-sister. Thanks for writing about her. Your thoughts are real as well as spot-on. Hang in there and hopefully whoever is responsible is brought to justice.
I agree on that
I can't imagine what you're going through and I'm so sorry for your loss. I agree with you 100%, just because someone has made bad choices or been put into a bad situation out of their control the best thing to do is try to help them not call them bad people because of it.
Yep they just need the help they actually need the shit at the heart of why they do drugs and why the whore themselves out. Its a shame but they are the forgotten like with homeless that I fear will never be solved cuz at just one point or another people who can help give up. And I get it some people just wanna destroy themselves but no one is born that way. No one...
@@kennyhuston I appreciate that. It's been almost 10 years, and still not any easier. She was the oldest in our family, I was the youngest, and I used to sleep in her room when I was a kid because she made me feel safe,
"He is a serial killer"
Canadian police: "Eh, not enough evidence"
"He's got some contraband guns on his farm"
Canadian police: "OH THAT'S IT, NOW WE'RE SEARCHING EVERY INCH OF THE PLACE!!!"
Very weird indeed
You nailed Canadian law. Saw a guys head off on a buss and get less time than for possession of illegal firearms.
They were able to prove one and not the other. What’s the issue? They got a warrant for something they were able to.
Strange logic
It's not about the reason but about the fact that they can prove it with evidence.
They could not prove him to be a serial killer without bodies for evidence. But they could prove the illegal weapons.
However, the police did ignore the disappearance of the sex workers.
Omg! Lipstick, gummy bears, sausage, orphanages. Using "charity events" to lure victims. He is a true monster.
sounds like a weekend with jimmy saville
Imagine eating candy and ect and you in-joy it but you dont notice is there human remains in that candy ya he is a monster.
@@hauptfachhauptfach6202 *looks down at label: “oh geez I didn’t know candy had this much protein.”
@@setamonkeytoy now then now then
Indeed
The bassist for a band I’m a Tour Manager for loves your videos and watches them in the hotel after a show. I now watch your videos all the time. Thanks to Jason for sharing and thanks to you for creating!!
The fact that his brother never "knew" anything about this is unbelievable to me. Not saying he was involved, but just hard to believe.
if just a simple worker from the property had a hunch, there's no way in hell that pickton's brother wasn't knowledgable of the goings on.
I think he definitely was.
And the sister too
@@messiehauhnar7230 she moved away before it all started
He knew
One of my friends was a forensic student who spent her summer on that farm sifting through the mud and manure for these women’s remains. She wasn’t allowed to talk about it much but she said it was horrific.
Much respect to forensic scientists, I can't imagine doing such a disturbing and gruesome job. I bet she almost vomited many times : (
I bet it was and I can imagine what the place looked like on a good day, can she still not talk about it and I can't say I blame her
She can’t by Canadian law but I highly doubt she would regardless.
That is crazy but cool at same time
Okay I understand but what if she came on american soil and said something
Imagine being a woman in the late 90s in Vancouver who loves eating gummy bears, wearing red lipstick, and goes to charity parties then hearing this on the news.
I wouldn’t care, what makes human meat different from any other animal?
@@patientboat1979 they're not humans, thats the difference, and if you dont care l already know you should be in a hospital for defficient people
@@patientboat1979 oooh who’s an edgy boy yes you are oooh what a hot take your statements are so controversial what an edgy boy
@@patientboat1979 Exactly, it's just meat. The only thing that makes it wrong was the murdering part.
@@rokukou yeah, don't make much difference. I guess if your Squeamish, but you can die or contract disease from consuming human meat being a human. Idk what its called but your brain basically gets a shit load of holes in it.
Amazing that the undercover cop could listen to that and stay in character 😱
"Hey this guy is murdering women. We've seen clothes, purses, he's always picking up women where they're going missing."
Police: "nah. Thats not enough to warrant a search."
"Okay. He has illegal weapons."
Police: "WHAT!!!!! We'll be arriving immediately. "
Thats a broken system if I've ever heard one.
think about it like this if a judge signed off on that and it lead to a conviction it could be argued that suffienct evidence was not given for a search warrant which could lead to the entire case being thrown out and him. having women choltes and purses is not enough for a warret espiclly if you host giant parties
Where did this take place, California?
@@casual_speedrunner1482 Yes British Columbia, California
Isn't it strange that Michael Jackson wrote a song, "They Don't Really Care About Us"? It's almost like he was thinking.
@@mpmichaelpayne Ah, I rewatched the video, didn’t realize he said it took place in Canada. My bad. Then again, California is just hot Canada anyway…
My teacher who was an ex-cop worked the Robert Pikton case. He showed us internal videos and pictures and damn, the whole place is literally a crime scene. Everyone wore special equipment and I’m still surprised how those officers are able to smile. It’s an insane scene.
They should make a high budget movie about this
Kinda want to see those now
@@christopherrobin1505 I'd pay to see that
@@jackclayton8792 If they do that they should at the very least wait until the murderer is dead.
@@dylanthesea2976 this! And focusing more on the victims then trying to humanize this man
It’s sad when your country is more worried about illegal weapons than literal humans who went missing and people repeatedly telling you that the guy you investigated for illegal weapons is the murderer
Dont be stupid, come on
I wish they were worried about both tbh
Or making a deal with a murderer, and then finding evidence their lawyer withheld..Paul Bernardo/Carla Holmolka!
You should need a background check and 5 day waiting period to buy anti freeze
@@craftygnome97 or just don't be stupid and inject it into people smh
There’s a doc out there about this guy, but they never mentioned the parties. Which to me is kind of important. You’re the best!
A girl I went to school with shares his last name and is actually his neice. She had to leave from school from constant bullying. We are still in touch. This guy has driven her to change her last name . Completely ruined both the victims families and his own.
Damn
That's fucked up
Who?
What about all the families that he ruined? They can just change their names, move, or whatever. Their family is whole, the victims families are forever ruined. A painful, horrific murder that will never go away, no matter what their names are, or where they live.
@@evafleury5538 ....Sorry ..but how does this take away from the victims Families..?.ITS all around awful for everyone involved... I'm a local and I know a few of them personally.. It's all around tragic. I was more so pointing out a very unknown unfortunate reality of being related to a serial killer. It not only ruins victims families but it destroys their own. That last name here in Canada is forever associated with his acts. It's not hard to conclude how bad the victims families have it from his acts...but the topic of serial killers relatives is barely shined on . It's worth making awareness.. I've seen the damages first hand. From both sides . The damages extend deep on both ends ... and I'll NEVER under estimate the pain it has caused to each party.
My friend’s mother almost was victim of Robert. She denied the ride, she thought he was too “off”.
Wow that’s crazy
Wow that’s crazy
Wow that's crazy
fake she is my sister she is faking
Oh my god!
One thing I appreciate the most about his videos is that he NEVER repeats stories and use CLICK BAIT to waste our time...
Ikr, hes actually good
But his thumbnails is sometimes click bait but the videos is 100% legit and also not waste our time.
@@tacomctacov2622 True but usually people use CLICK BAIT because their video SUUUCKS. With John, there's truth to it and worth the little click bait. Right...
@@brotherchrisrco1125 true
That one's sure as hell true
My kitten loves watching mrballen. I don’t know why but when she hears him she’ll run out of no where and just be in a trance. I’ve been trying to catch a picture or video of her trying to reach out and touch him. Im happy that I have someone that loves listening to his stories as much as I do in my house😅
That's really nice to hear and take a break from the horrors of this video. Thank you :0
I have an old childhood friend that fell victim to this disgusting tragedy😕🙏🏻
Oh I'm so sorry. 😥
I'm sorry buddy I hope he/she RIP🙏
@@jillibeens57 Yeah it was really scary when her mom and sister were trying to get a hold of us years after we moved from Vancouver and they couldn’t find her💔 but I think my wanna be cop sister helped in placing her as one of his potential victims and omgosh its just horrendous that all thus went on but I think could’ve been possibly not prevented but so many lives could’ve been spared. She got into drugs & subsequently prostitution to support her habit and it’s a familiar tale that people who live risky lifestyles are Not a priority to law enforcement which is Disgusting in itself! It will haunt me forever 😕Thank you for your comment🙏🏻🌷💖
So sorry for your loss!
@@LuckyVarma11 Yes, may she Rest In Peace 🙏🏻 her name was Sharon💘 ✌️🇨🇦
A woman described an attack with handcuffs on and a man walks in with injuries accurate to the attack AND he had keys to the handcuffs and the coppers were just like “damn bro that’s crazy but... uh”
Oh no, anyways
@Justin Macisaac so Canada is the place to be a criminal I guess
Literally in his questioning he conveniently left out the hand cuffs and the stupid cops were just like understandable have a nice day
@Justin Macisaac is Canada as good as the people on social media claim? I see a bunch of people talk shit on the US even my friend since kindergarten says that the US is a third world country with makeup and I’m just like “you gotta be really privileged to think that the US is a third world country” like there’s so many worse countries to be in, needless to say I’m not friends with that person anymore lol
We know the people who become police isn't brightest... but damn... those are plain unevolved primates.
This was truly horrifying on so many levels! And the idea that people were inadvertently ingesting pieces of these women, or using make up made partially from them....you just never know how close and how often evil comes to you in your lifetime.
This story is right up there with 'The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.' Who cares if they have mental disorders? Just take 'em out back, one slug behind their ear, save the taxpayers MILLIONS, but "NO! We CAN'T do THAT?" 🤪
Bleeding heart liberals are the reason why so many innocent people suffer in this world. They protect the criminals, but kill the innocent.
Funny picture stoner
@@glenturney4750 Agree, the bleeding heart brigade have a lot to answer for.
I've been face to face with a murderer (who tried to get me to get in his car), & someone who was an accomplice to a different murder. Both interactions happened when I was 18.
@@glenturney4750 you do know that the way you are talking also puts you under that category of being taken and shot there's a reason we don't shoot idiots because I would have to kill all of you guys example the way you are talking borderline domestic terrorism look it up anything that goes against the will of the people or the country can fall under that category disagreeing with the current government power falls under that category which is why we no longer take people out there to shoot them because we would be shooting all of you. Example what happened at the Capitol building that's considered domestic terrorism one of the few things that you can still get death by firing squad for or don't like a certain president and you post something bad about them on social media you can be shot for that just be happy that you live in America and we tolerate stupidity here.
I love that you covered this story. I live not too far away from Port Coquitlam.
Funny enough, my family bought pork from the Pickton's obviously before we ever knew of the crimes they had been committing, nevertheless the fact they ground their victims into mush and blended them with their pigs.
Just a point though, Robert Pickton was never known as the "Piggy Palace Murderer/Massacre". Robert Pickton is known as the "Pickton Pig Farmer Killer".
Yes, lol - us Canadians are very literal!
Cannibal, did it taste good?
"I killed 49 people"
"Hmmm we can only find 25 best we can give ya"
"I......i KILLED 49 PEOPLE"
"How about 6?"
They were jealous of his K/D
considering it was collected on hidden cam with an undercover cop its hard to get it to be admissible in court as an admission of guilt.
@@ah7027 True, but it definitely gave the investigators a fresh look into finding evidence
@@ah7027Yep. Could have easily been argued that it was just talk.
That's one of the reasons I'd never want to be a serial killer, so hard to get full credit for each kill. The other reason being I don't really want to kill people.
I lived in Vancouver at the time and remember the indigenous community screaming that there was a serial killer targeting the downtown east side and the Vancouver police simply ignored them for years. It truly seemed that the social class of the victims played a significant role in the response of the Vancouver police.. We can only speculate how many of these women could have been saved if someone at the VPD had listened.
@Tab Slab are you mad because you know the only way you can get someone to sleep with you is by paying for it? it's not the sex workers' fault, man. that's on you lol.
@Tab Slab your mom doesn't matter?
Gosh why are majority of the world's police arw like that?? Wish the good cops outnumbered the bad ones
@@punchy3245 he deleted his comment. Gotta love when people delete their comments and you cant see what people are talking about xD
The VPD have started to get their act together in Recent years, luckily. Hopefully there wont be any more of these incidents around Vancouver and the Lower Mainland itself.
Him: "victims ended up in lipstick and gummy bears"
Me: -slowely puts down the gummy bears I was eating-
😂🤭👌💯😟😬😬
I have so many lipsticks! 😭 🐷 💄 🤮
what the heck is up with the emojis it's an annoying stereotype now
@@panoraxe yeah dude the 4 year olds are slowly invading youtube
im probably never gonna eat a gummy bear/lolly pop or any thing like that again
Robert: sir that woman was on drugs and stabbed my face
Police: hmm.... *looks at handcuff key* okay you are now acquitted of murder attempt
Sh*t yeah! How did he explain away the handcuffs!?
When my mom was a young teenager her and her friend met a guy that wanted to take them for "a ride"... They were gonna do it until an older woman stopped it and called the police. Later my mom found out that the same guy that tried taking them for a ride was a man that would lure woman to Pigton Farm for this psychopath for money. My mom and her friend would probably be dead today if that woman didn't stop them... it's so insane to think about.
omg thats so scary
I'm soo glad they survived, wow.
Fake story
@@austins.2495 yea i think it should be his moms mom but if it is real thats crazy
Women liking to going for a ride is the problem
the undercover cop in his cell is so funny he just is constantly cursing trying to fit in
I am rather surprised how unconvincing that undercover was.
@@Outland9000 new guys in prison tend to pretend to be tough and swear a lot, so he fits in
@@Outland9000 he is still talking like a cop IMO
Don't curse until you hear the other party curse. And don't curse much more or less.
I was looking for this comment
A friend of mine, and the man who prosecuted Pickton, Mike Petrie, just passed about 6 weeks ago from COVID. Thank you for your service Mike, and rest easy.
RIP
r.i.p
Riperoni
@@thescarundermylip230 ur nice have an amazing day bud
Thank god for him for bringing justice to these women!! That alone makes him exceptional human in my eyes!! 🦋RIp
I grew up in the town and this story was kind of a town legend. My parents met one of the investigators when they finally got around to solving this case. Good video.
Who else really enjoyed this story? Great Job, Ballen!
Thank you!!
Not a story ....real life horror non-fiction. I knew the brothers and unfortunately was at the farm but fortunately survived the horror to be a witness for the trial... And recovered. But I do agree that Mr Ballen is a fabulous teller of all these events!!!! 🤍
thats a messed up thing to say, this story made me sick to my stomach
Verified person with 3 comments i must be early
@@seawatersoul333 holy shit. Youre very lucky. Glad youre ok!
Hi. My mother is Georgina Papin. I am Kristina Bateman, her eldest daughter.. She went missing when I was 14. She was one of his victims and he was charged with her murder. They only found her hand. She had 7 kids and will never meet her grandkids. She was a beautiful First Nations woman and there is so much more to her.. I might have this case re opened because I believe there were more involved. I may even talk to Robert myself.
My condolences. I'm sure she was a wonderful woman.
God Bless you, and your family. Prayers for your mom. Good luck with re-opening the case. I hope you get the justice you’re seeking.
@@BbBb-vd2sj she(writer ) said that her mom went missing when she(the writer) was 14
@@silaskaimenyimutuma5023 ahh.. I see it now. Im an idiot, I didn't read it correctly.
Sorry for your loss
Can we all appreciate how much work he puts in to making these videos cause they are amazing!
It’s cause I have a great team! Thanks Wes & Tori!
Yes outstanding content! Found him about month ago , binge watched the entire channel list now sitting on go waiting for new stuff ! Lol great story teller
I sure like him .. he is the very best
@@MrBallen All lazy frontmen say that line... lol ;)
@@MrBallen You and your team are truly amazing people telling these interesting stories, bless you guys.
12-9-24 now and I'm watching this one again! Once again I'm in complete awe! For the life of me I can NOT figure out how MrBallen got ALL those birds to keep flying in circles like that for the ENTIRE video!!! I mean, the finished video is a little over 13 minutes but you know it took WAY longer than that to film and those birds are there from start to finish! Awesome job Bud! LMBO!! Great video as always!! Even after the 5th or 6th time I've watched it now!!
Imagine being that officer and needing to willing to get in there with a maniac. He had to pretend like he was as evil as that man.
@Cal Rogers ok Cal
@Cal Rogers imagine knowing English isn't everyone's first language 🤯
I personally couldn't imagine disregarding someone's comment and just attempting to fire a cheap shot instead.
Pretend ??
Huh?
Those officers deserve Oscars and lots of money
One of the mother's of one of the victims.. After ONE DAY of looking for her daughter found herself outside of the Pickton Farm. Police couldn't do shit over 3 years RIP JENNY
Woman: I was attacked by that guy on the pig farm which has a charity, throws drug parties, and for some reason women vanish at these parties. He tried to attack me, he had hand cuffs.
Robert: has key to handcuff.
Police: while what you say seems true, you're a poor woman. You do drugs. Obviously you're lying.
@Eric Floyd ur a simp if u thought he was being misogynistic when he said "you're a poor woman. you do drugs". context, dude. google it. reading comprehension, attain it
that'd be the police luv xx
The police also went to those parties as did most of the rest of the seedy underbelly of the GVA
#believemen, just because Robert was a disgusting creep with a bald rat tail, and just so happened to actually be the killer, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t just believe what he says, just because of his gender
Why is it that the crimes with the most evidence, the police ignore.
I am completely obsessed with this channel. Soon I'm going to run out of videos and I'll be subject to wait for his weekly episodes. That will be depressing.
“Be wary of any man that owns a pig farm.”
I learnt this from the movie, Snatch!
And King of The Hill too.
One of the Silence of the Lambs sequels
Charlotte's Web
100 Bloody Acres (not specifically a pig farm but, yknow, semantics)
Squeal. 🐷
Mr. Ballen saying “William M. Buttlicker” with a straight face is epic.
I thought I had misheard him 😂😂
01:30 Bill Hisscox 😂😂
@@ChrisPBacon-xb7yk Eyo my pig has the same name as you!
@@thetruesopop I thought your mother's name was Christina.
(Edit: English is not my first language and I thought I had misspelled "mother's" but after some research it seems that it was correct.)
So I wasn't hearing things. Omg
I knew this story and hesitated to hear it again, but Mr. Ballen´s unique and somehow soothing, hand-holding, humane delivery of all things grizzly, convinced me to give it a go. Didn´t disappoint. Thanks Mr. Ballen!
I agree, i find it hard to watch videos like this without a friendly voice to narrate
@@braveheart2785 I´m a woman, dumbass. Edit: Oh, you mean "gay" as in millenial-speak for lame? Oh ok, its just that my name generates confusion all the time. Sorry little boy "brave heart"
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MrBallen is always the best. Much love.
This is a very well known story around here and I actually met Robert Pickton who was pretty weird. The general feeling is that he was not alone in this and probably his brother was involved too but was never charged.
Fiona, in what capacity did you meet this monster? If you don't mind me asking.
@@4everfreethinkerNot at all: He owned a place on Tannery Rd in Surrey that sold items from old buildings that had been torn down. I was looking for an old paned wooden window to turn into a mirror and had been there many times to find antique doorknobs and doors.
This time, Robert Picton was there with his friend and he was virtually comatose. He managed to direct me to an old trailer way in the back of the property and I remember thinking that if anything happened to me ,I would never be found. He took my money but wouldn't look at me while I was paying.
This is not an "in hindsight" feeling but I honestly was creeped out at the time.
Exactly his brother was a huge part of this n know bill hiscox from way back in my hometown of Squamish
I grew up next to this place during that time - we could hear the noise from the parties when they were really going at it (faintly). It is amazing how bad the police screwed this one up. They had undercover cops working these parties and everything. His brother definitely was involved or at the very least knew, plus the huge connection with the HA who used his place as a party ground. So many connections that never went anywhere and so many voices giving warnings that fell on deaf ears.
@@milham76 you ladies keep asking for it, you get what you deserve
I don’t watch scary movies, I don’t read scary books, literally anything with horror I stay away from. I’ve been that way since I was a child. But I’m a huge fan of phenomenal orators and story tellers and I’m completely hooked on your videos. I’m a professional magician and just like magic, story telling is an art. You have a spectacular ability to articulate yourself as well as anyone I’ve ever heard. Your video was randomly recommended to me about 2 weeks ago and I’ve watched damn near every video that you’ve posted. I genuinely can’t stop watching them. The passion that you have for getting these stories out to the world is infectious and you’ve inspired me more than you will ever know. Definitely keep up the amazing work that you’re doing. Lol I don’t even know you and yet I’m still proud of you!!
This is the longest “I like your channel” lol
Thank you so much l!!!
I’m totally hooked on mrballen videos too and so are 2 million other people, thanks for putting that into words so well for us.
@@madmattdigs9518 I was in one of his first thousand followers. It’s been amazing to watch his channel grow.
Well said.
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Living through this while it happened, i cant believe this story was only 12 minutes long. this was so crazy and bizarre and so many people were there while it was going on
“Filthy failed pig farmers”
That’s the most hard core insult I’ve ever heard
Yeah, I’m gonna use that one someday.
Lol!
"Which means that Robert's victims would end up being lipstick or gummy bears"
Me eating gummy bears: ...
WHAT THE FU-
EXACTLY MY REACTION-
Either way you're still eating a corpse.
well I kinda thought at least one person would be in that situation.
Did they ship those gummy bears over to Europe because I don’t want to throw up 🤮
@@oisinkelly7189 idk maybe?
My best friend in high schools mother was murdered by Robert.. my friend suffered so much and even attempted to take her own life while we were friends. She’s doing much better now in life and even has a baby girl. No one thinks BC can be a dangerous place but it really can be just like any other place..
Unfortunately yes it can. When I was a teen throughout the lower mainland Clifford Olson kidnapped children/teens and murdered them. Terrifying time!
@@billmcmeekin7909 so horrible :(
So sorry to hear that - and to know that her death was very likely preventable if police had done their f-ing jobs. Please send all best wishes and support to your friend & her family from a fellow Canadian over here in Ontario.
I’m so sorry your friend had to endure the loss of her mom and the travesty of the investigation. I’m glad to hear she is doing well and is a mom herself.
It’s cool that you have such a strong connection to the story but at the same time that’s so horrible and sad
My mom’s friend used to be in the party scene and was invited to a piggy palace party. She declined, but her other friend went. Thankfully she left with the majority of the other guests.
Everybody gangsta until *the strange, dark, and mysterious is delivered in story format
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This comment needs more likes😂😂
Especially when it’s uploaded 3-4 times a week
Is it funny that he is wearing a different collored shirt in the thumbnail than the video?...
I live in Vancouver Canada and at the time this was happening I was in recovery dealing with a nasty addiction issue. A girl I had become friends with while I was using Andrea B, was one of the last victims whose remains were found on the farm. This was one of the most horrific cases in B.C. to date. Adding to it the complete lack of interest by the police, which cost the lives of so many more of these women. Thanks for covering this one John and doing so accurately and respectfully and thank you for your perfect pronunciation of Coquitlam😁💙🙏
Sorry for your loss.
Proof?
@@5Ci0N What an assy thing to say.
Is Andrea B a drug? Or should you have placed a comma after "using"? Why does no one proofread their stupid comments?
@@5Ci0N I think what you mean to ask for is "evidence". No one has proof of shit. Proofs are limited to mathematics. The rest of the shit you think you know is based on evidence; not proofs.
I like how CRIMINAL MINDS sampled some true stories in their episodes. This is one of the true stories they used.
I just mentioned watching this episode on another comment! CM is my favorite show 🙂
I thought the exact same thing!
@@Djdhshdhsjejejs “To hell...”
Season 4 Episode 25.
“And back”
Season 4 Episode 26.
THE KILLERS NAME WAS LUCAS 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I LOVE CRIMINAL MINDS
A few years after Pickton was arrested there was a radio station looking for the "Joke of the Year" where participants would phone in their jokes for a chance to win. Eventually, it was won by a 10 year old boy with this joke:
"How did Robert Pickton get caught?"
"How?"
"His pigs squealed on him."
Is anyone else addicted to the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format??
Yes🙂
Anyone else sick of the seeing the same comment on every vid??
Interviewer: Do you consider yourself fit and healthy?
Me: Yes
Interviewer: Any history of addiction in your family?
Me: Umm.. Mr Ballen?
Funny every time so far
This is old news. Yes yes we all are. Stop looking for validation 😂
I love how nonchalantly the line “she stabbed him in the face” is delivered.
You, sir, are an artist.
No you ;3
the secret in today's episode:
*don't buy gummy bears, EVER AGAIN.*
I love makeup and when I learned that these women wound up in lipstick, i was like OH HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NAW!
I really hope I wasn’t eating gummy bears around 2002. 😖
Back when I used to not only use but sell drugs(clean/sober 30yrs now) I would sell gummy bears that had liquid LSD in them for $10 each out of the bar I worked at at the time. Had best bears in Dallas !!! LoL
@@talon7132 lol they still sell those here in SA.
it's not just in gummy bears, it's in all kinds of foods.
Good video. I live about five blocks from the farm and have met many people who went to the Piggy Palace. It's now mostly town houses but there's a bunch of cows on part of it...
Always thought it was interesting they didn’t try to convict the brother who was present at the farm for most of the murders.
One of my first thoughts also.
They probably question him about that with the undercover cop
I think it is because of his ego. He wanted to be the only one who killed 50 (49) woman in the history books. If anyone else was in on it, he wouldn't get the whole credit.
From people who I know who knew Dave, said he wasn’t involved but I think the guy must of known something was up
He’s probably still out there killing people.
I’d bet every penny I have that his brother not only knew about it, but had a victim count of his own.
Was waiting fer this comment..ect
No evidence
@@Animal-Reaction-Clips exactly, and he was the more put together brother. So he would have been more competent in the disposal of the evidence.
@@shinigami-man5727 yeah also it's easier to blame to crazy brother while the put together brother gets away
His brother did have his own count but was doing disposals for a few club members...
I grew up not far from the farm and still live in the area today. It is unbelievable that his brother was never charged, there is no way he didn't know exactly what was going on and/or participated in the rapes and murders of the women. This whole case has been handled so poorly by the RCMP. My heart goes out to all of the families.
Its not so unbelievable when you realize the RCMP is corrupt and assisted in the coverup.
I agree. I mean an employee was suspicious enough to keep calling crimestoppers, I’m pretty sure the brother knew something
What proof is there
did you ever go?
I grew up in vancouver and delta and abbotsford. Serial killer capital of the world. I was in trouble on drugs and was in Jail with pickton. Me and my cellmate if we could have would smash him. I hate violence but man 40 women is so wrong and justice needed doing and jail is not enough. we were in supermax though and nothing ever will or would come to him they had him so closed off even from the protective custody rapists and tabboo criminals. I am sober today and I dont box anymore but if I could have for the victims I would have cracked him with the hardest right hook and then taken being jumped on by 7 guards and spend a month in the hole. I am sober and trying to write my life story today. peace
this guy, Mr.Ballen is so cool, his stories are so articulated and detailed, expressed so vividly there's so much terror!!!! thank you!
My niece fell victim to the horrific crime. Although the family reported her disappearance, it took 2 years for the police to investigate.
May her souls be in peace. I’m sorry this happened to your family.
Im sorry
Thats horrible Im so sorry. My most sincere and deepest condolences to you and your family.
Condolences from winnipeg. ❤
My mom and her friends went to several parties at the Pickton Farm, it’s in my hometown. Scary to think she was literally at his place several times
Facts. So did my mom.
Did she know?
@@mstwelvedeadlycyns she didn’t know until the news broke out about him.
My best friend grew up a few doors down from his house. No joke of a lie, or was some creepy crap
Mom dad uncle they all spent time there
Did they eat the food ? 😳
Whistleblower: "This guy makes women disappear!"
Police: "Sorry, We're not interested."
"But, He has a gun!"
Police: "That's serious, Let's search the property Till Kingdom Come!" o.O
That's Canada for you!
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@@HolyEyeWasHere beat me to it.
i also make women disappear, just by saying hi
@@OddDawgz nooo Lmaooo rip
@@OddDawgz you good
Thank you MrBallen for always being kind and not showing pictures of the dead. I am sure some these stories have some pictures that are really bad 😔. Again thank you.
my aunty is a addict and she used to go to his parties she said they generally knew picton was killing women but still went for the free drugs you just had to “not be the last one left.”
where was the free drugs coming for... Addicts definetly play canadian roulette at a picktone party
@@itsolivier what the fuck is a picktone party?
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@@codykhaos4987 Was as perplexed as you so googled. Found nothing for picktone party so tried Canadian roulette, which is something else I'd never heard of. Discovered this; "A popular Canadian drinking game where you take 6 cans of Molson Canadian and shake one vigorously. You then mix them up and 6 people must select a can to drink. The person who gets the exploding can must chug their beer." The fact that players PICK ONE. This has led me to believe that a picktone party is actually a typo and they meant to say a pick one party. 😁 Or, you could just ignore all that cos, I've just been reminded that the brothers' name was Pickton. 😁😁
@@codykhaos4987 a Russian roulette Picton party is when instead of bullets going in gun and one coming out a few dozen drug addicted women go in and 1 doesn't come out. That is androids touch.
*I am a fan of the strange, dark and mysterious delivered in story format*
Well I'll be darned... I AM a fan of the strange dark and unusual 😂😂😂😂😂
Then you came to the right place because that's all they do and they upload 3 OR 4 times every week
Well then you've come to the right place.
Aren't we all? 😊😜
@@JamesJones-tu4pq You better believe IM a fan of the strange dark and mysterious too!
Concerned citizen: "Help! There's a serial killer on the loose"!
Every police officer ever: " Yup... It's probably just the wind."
Like the duck walk killer and the chicago strangler in Chicago.
As usefully as a Skyrim guard when someone crouches
@@Aevitas-kek “Never should’ve come here!”
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“Must have been the wind.”
We all have our own skeletons in our closets and we all fight our own individual demons that we fight. It doesn't make a person any less of a human being because of this. I lost a family member to a serial killer ( who still hasn't been caught) and it breaks my heart that these monsters hunt someone who is already down on their luck
I used to work at that rendering plant. Always creeped me out that human bodies had gone through those machines. Madness.
Wouldn't they have seen the bodies as they came through? Or body parts?
Maybe they should start processing in batches and testing the batches for human remains?
@@calvinthedestroyer The machines chomp carcasses to mush, bones and all.
See for yourself:
ua-cam.com/video/HA1dVYyXc8Y/v-deo.html
@@calvinthedestroyer You think they receive complete cadavers at those plants? No. They receive whatever can not be used for human consumption (eyeballs, ligaments, toe-nails, etc), all in a disgusting blob.
What I find also disgusting is people eating cadavers at all. Because when you think of it, dismantled animal remains and human remains look exactly the same.
@@calvinthedestroyer The remains would have been inside the pigs.
Fun fact: Any handcuff key opens all handcuffs. That's how magicians always escape. You can even hide one in a band-aid
Not completely true, there average about 3 different keys.
@banner stop yeah something like that.
Or they hide it in fake scars.
Truly false bruh
That what I was thinking the fail safe was!!!
I grew up near the lower mainland playing basketball. And right when it was all discovered we had a basketball tourney in the area. And I gotta say, it was just extremely dark and eerie looking at the place. We walked by the farm everyday, couldn’t imagine what went on there.. RIP to all who lost their lives there.
This was by Terry Fox secondary. We came for a basketball torunament im the summer of 2001 and walked through the property. Very creepy thinking about it when it came out in the news Decemeber 2001.
And to think that they owned most of the land that all that development was done. His brother sold most of it (the small amount of farm they investigated) was just what they had left for themselves. There very well could be remains under a number of those houses. I grew up right there and seeing this all unfold was crazy.
My wife absolutely loves your videos 😊 she listens to you when she sleeps. So thank you for your service and everything that you do now. 😊
You know it’s going to be serious when there’s a warning in the title...
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I just hope cannabilsm is not involved. I say this to myself as I hit play🙄
@@beth6102 Well... 🤣
@@beth6102 That comment aged like a milk
Seeing that undercover officer acting tough and cursing in the most… unconventional way possible, actually made me appreciate the art of cursing even more than I already did. It was so bad, I lost track on what he was trying to asked in the first place.
Albedoooooooo
This was a huge story up here, the fact the the police didnt take this serious when they first caught wind of his wrong doings is 100 on them.
Sounds kind of familiar doesn’t it. April 2020 NS. Law system fails again
It's actually 100% on the serial killer.
@@johnhonker437 or the cops who were informed about their suspicious behaviour and turned a blind eye
Love the office reference in The beginning!
It's so frustrating that the police did nothing until years after. So many people died before they finally had the monster.
49 to be exact 😞
@@SauceOnChickenBall yeah, what a sicko
@Oliver Von arx Yeah it's ones like that and on this case that can make it hard for the good ones to standout and get the credit they deserve. I'm sorry that happened to you but thankfully nothing happened to you, other then the unfortunate metaphorical backhand from that officer.
We hire the least educated yet most hot headed people on earth to police us. You cant expect much from these dipshits.
And when the did, they only arrested one of them.
was young when this happened (around 8) but I remember living very close to that area as a kid and hearing about the missing women made me scared. My mother was going to go to one of these parties but I pretended to be sick that night to make her stay home. I will never be sure if she knew I was faking but I like to think that overwhelming fear is what saved my mothers life. After Pickton got caught my mother made us move.
You were pretty smart. I would do the same thing to my own parents.
I'm so glad you did that, you just may have been your mom's guardian angel that night. Thank God she had enough sense to stay home with you as some of the people that went there had no sense. Knowing there's a killer amongst them and going anyways
@@bernierose1114 I totally agree with u
U r a sensible good daughter! Your mum is very fortunate 🥰💕💜💙
Why you capping
His brother still walks free and definitely had something to do with the farm. It’s also scary because so many women are going missing in the lower mainland of Vancouver right now
Wait for real?
Yah for real bro?
That guy should definitely be behind bars with his brother... The fact that he has been spotted speaking to women around 2012 in the same area the victims worked is enough to have him locked up imo. Dude was also charged with sexual assault in 1992. It has also been reported that he was the dominant brother and would order his little brother around, I wouldn't be surprised if he orchestrated everything.
Very sad that many of the women that come up missing are prostitutes and not taken seriously until it is too late. They are people too and someone’s loved ones.
TONS of human trafficking in Vancouver. There are busts happening all the time. Winnipeg too.