Roger, I got this rig from the a magazine called "Best Baits and Bait rigging" It must be 25 yrs old. They have the Alvey rigging bench inside. They lay the pilchard flat and then cut the pilchard in half, at a 45 degree angle leaving a lot of exposed bait on each piece. You then hook up as you do with the barb exposed in the cut thin portion of the bait. It's a good bait.
One tip I learned with doing a paternoster rig is to make the sinker sacrificial. Use a lighter gauge line from the swivel to the sinker, because the sinker is more likely to get snagged in the rocks, and the lighter gauge line makes it easier to bust it off and retrieve your line.
Thank you Roger, I really appreciate your honesty and how you show the reality in fishing. Sometimes, you will catch plenty of fish, and sometimes, as you mentioned in the video, the fish will just disappear. This is the case here in Sydney it's become hard to catch a fish due to the overfishing. Thanks for your great video, and keep going.
Years ago I used to fish from the rocks around the NSW Central Coast using a similar rig. To get around the problem of losing (expensive) lead sinkers we used old car spark plugs attached to a light breaking strain dropper line; we still got snagged of course but often it was only the spark plug that was lost.. The old plugs were obtained free from the local car workshop.
One of your best videos mate the way you describe things and showed things and little things about the pool noodle is what you need to do all the time brilliant video
ah, see, the fish are starting to talk and warn each other, "that Osbourne is here again". like me and foxes. Thanks for the clear rig run down Rog, i'll give it a go. so far, i've got nothing but snags on the reef if i use a sinker. but i don't do the aggressive yank and fast reel in. catch you soon.
Good content, Roger. Yes fishing can be a challenge sometimes. Worst thing for fishing is not, not getting any bites or even losing all your gear on the rocks, it is seaweed everywhere! The last 2 weeks I’ve been struggling with seaweed, it weighs down your line so you can’t feel any bites, and every retrieve is like a tug of war. Best thing you can do is just go home! ☹
At Terrigal I use to catch sharks through the rocks on whipper slipper cord and live bait yellowtail through the rock litteraly if it wasn't an eel it was a port Jackson we ley em go was 30 years ago
Q for you Roger, please? For this type of rock fishing & rig, you prefer Mono over braid? Make a difference in casting distance? Other considerations? Thnx
Hi Roger I love your channel and I have you beachworming masterclass which is excellent. However I have a concern with some of the rigs specifically the half hitch that you put around the pilchard. I have used this technique before and I have found that I’ve lost fish because the line on the half hitch cuts into itself creating a weak spot then the line snaps. I have stopped doing this and I don’t know what your experience has been but I just wanted to share this with you and your viewers as I’d hate to see you lose one because of this half hitch. I’d love it if you come up with something better for rigging pilles to make a video and share with us. Cheers mate and tight lines…. But not too tight on the half hitch
Hi thanks Michael, I struggle to remember any times when my line has broken at the hook because of the half hitch. I am not aware of it. If it happened even a few times I certainly would stop doing it.
Roger, regarding your best killer rig, when do you use flourocarbon and when do you use coated wire? Where I am in Qld we either get tailor or non toothy fish. Do you wait until you get eaten off before changing to wire?
Another great video. Over here in SA we don't have as many opportunities for rock fishing, so that prompts me to ask a "newbie" question ... Was your line choice based on mono's better durability in turbulent water and the ever-present rough rock surfaces?
@frankbrookes3930• Where in SA? Or is it South America? If South Africa [RSA], I've been rock fishing over 70 years from Mozambique to Namibian borders. What takes your opportunities away? I had many Brookes friends in KZN in the 50's. Have a good day.
Hello Mr Osborne I wanted to ask you if from a sandy beach I can fish with the big sliding float and you would have advice to succeed? Thank you and nice video on this Saturday.
I tried it off the Southern end of Bombo this avo. I hooked something with weight but it broke the line on the rocks! :-( Bombo looks good atm. A clear gutter between the sand bar and the beach.
Been watching heaps of fishing lately, and I was just wondering why everyone throws the huge Flatheads they catch back in the Lake. Flatheads are beautiful eating, just can't work out why they are all throwing them back in the water.
@@jerrysberrys3415 I know that. But every video I watch they are throwing huge Flathead back in the water. Not anywhere near 70 cm either. Maybe they just don't like fish. Quite aware to throw small fish back in the water also.
@@KangaJack-ns9gd I have seen that also. One kid caught 5 of them, one was massive, and he threw every Flathead back in the water. I cannot work it out either.
@@RogerOsborneFishingi don't see a sinker on your line though? Ahh half way through the video I saw a sinker. I'm confused though because In another video you say not to use a sinker or swivel at all when rock fishing.
basic error too heavy a sinker and main line , using fresh bait from catches or collecting crabs and cunje big advantage. some times preserving left over baits require salting salted striped tuna is brilliant using strip baits. anchoring bait with that heavy sinker is not always best. light sinker or floating gradually sinking much more effective.
It’s a misconception to call the piece of line between your swivel and hook your leader. It’s not, it’s just part of your rig. Because you’re using mono as your main line you’re pretty safe. If you were using braid you wouldn’t be. A leader is a length of mono/fluorocarbon between your main line and your swivel, length and strength depends on weather you’re fishing off a beach or rocks.
@@SouthCoastChompers not in this instance. Using mono as a main line on the rocks is not a bad idea largely because of the abrasiveness versus braid. Imagine if the mainline was braid and rubbed against the rocks and he had a decent fish on, the line would snap. Hence using a length of fluorocarbon between mainline and swivel. As mentioned above length determined by either fishing off rocks or beach. Further to that braid has no stretch whereas mono/fluorocarbon does. If a decent fish suddenly turns and runs at least you have that stretch in the line absorb the sudden force.
@@smileyface-re7fx I know the difference between line types braid/mono/flouro 👍🏻. My point is that everyone calls the piece of fluorocarbon attached to the terminal end a leader. If everyone calls it that way then that is what it is… I learnt a while ago to not bother correcting people that the correct way to spell jail is gaol. Language evolves.
Roger, I got this rig from the a magazine called "Best Baits and Bait rigging" It must be 25 yrs old. They have the Alvey rigging bench inside. They lay the pilchard flat and then cut the pilchard in half, at a 45 degree angle leaving a lot of exposed bait on each piece. You then hook up as you do with the barb exposed in the cut thin portion of the bait.
It's a good bait.
you'll pulled in the sandman Roger 🙌❤️
One tip I learned with doing a paternoster rig is to make the sinker sacrificial. Use a lighter gauge line from the swivel to the sinker, because the sinker is more likely to get snagged in the rocks, and the lighter gauge line makes it easier to bust it off and retrieve your line.
Yes I agree!
Thank you Roger, I really appreciate your honesty and how you show the reality in fishing. Sometimes, you will catch plenty of fish, and sometimes, as you mentioned in the video, the fish will just disappear. This is the case here in Sydney it's become hard to catch a fish due to the overfishing. Thanks for your great video, and keep going.
Years ago I used to fish from the rocks around the NSW Central Coast using a similar rig. To get around the problem of losing (expensive) lead sinkers we used old car spark plugs attached to a light breaking strain dropper line; we still got snagged of course but often it was only the spark plug that was lost.. The old plugs were obtained free from the local car workshop.
Try pebbles. Wrap it in plastic bags. Spark plugs are not always easy to come by.
@@sugiantoyusuf5229so you lose the plastic bag on the ocean. Genius
@@dragginmedown Likewise, you lose the spark plugs 😁
@@dragginmedownI think the same when heaps of guys use balloons as floats and soft plastics.
@@hanoitripper1809 true
One of your best videos mate the way you describe things and showed things and little things about the pool noodle is what you need to do all the time brilliant video
looks like you are always in a beautiful watercolor painting, and usually smiling from ear to ear! great video(s), keep 'em coming! :)
Thank you! Cheers!
ah, see, the fish are starting to talk and warn each other, "that Osbourne is here again". like me and foxes. Thanks for the clear rig run down Rog, i'll give it a go. so far, i've got nothing but snags on the reef if i use a sinker. but i don't do the aggressive yank and fast reel in. catch you soon.
I like to convert salmon into tucker :)
I've used the sliding paternoster rig for many, many years too....
I love rock fishing🎣👍✌️
We call it the Sniper! Could never remember the Stinger!!! 😅🎣 two hooks with just leader no trace. Works a treat. Great vid again Roger.🙌
Good content, Roger. Yes fishing can be a challenge sometimes.
Worst thing for fishing is not, not getting any bites or even losing all your gear on the rocks, it is seaweed everywhere!
The last 2 weeks I’ve been struggling with seaweed, it weighs down your line so you can’t feel any bites, and every retrieve is like a tug of war. Best thing you can do is just go home! ☹
Yes it is best to avoid the weed
Bloody awesome as usual!
Hi Roger:) we met each other this week. That’s the video I needed to see. Very informative. Thanks
It was good to meet you mate, I'm glad the videos are helpful for you 👍🏼
fantastic video
Thank you! 😃
Entrance bridge back in the day spinning for tailor filling buckets them were the days . Dusky flatheads bream snapper I miss it so much
Very cool!
Awesome stuff mate I’ll give it a go for sure
Mr. Rogers. Does it not tangle when you cast
It did when I tried it
No, almost never
At Terrigal I use to catch sharks through the rocks on whipper slipper cord and live bait yellowtail through the rock litteraly if it wasn't an eel it was a port Jackson we ley em go was 30 years ago
Thank you sir..Roger..
I like it all you videos
great video as usual. What brand of mono do you use. I only use mono. I just don't like the feel of braid.
Shimano Exage. I like it because of it's thin diameter
A great video Roger. I find people like yourself and Alex Bellissimo to be very helpful!
Thank you for this video
Glad it was helpful, thanks mate I appreciate the support
Hi from Bulgaria ❤
Q for you Roger, please? For this type of rock fishing & rig, you prefer Mono over braid? Make a difference in casting distance? Other considerations?
Thnx
Braid is good for distance casting but does not cope with rocks and barnacles so I mainly use mono but of thin diameter.
@@RogerOsborneFishing thanks Roger, really appreciate you taking the time to reply. Makes sense. Cheers
Greg
Hi Roger I love your channel and I have you beachworming masterclass which is excellent. However I have a concern with some of the rigs specifically the half hitch that you put around the pilchard. I have used this technique before and I have found that I’ve lost fish because the line on the half hitch cuts into itself creating a weak spot then the line snaps. I have stopped doing this and I don’t know what your experience has been but I just wanted to share this with you and your viewers as I’d hate to see you lose one because of this half hitch. I’d love it if you come up with something better for rigging pilles to make a video and share with us. Cheers mate and tight lines…. But not too tight on the half hitch
Hi thanks Michael, I struggle to remember any times when my line has broken at the hook because of the half hitch. I am not aware of it. If it happened even a few times I certainly would stop doing it.
Hi Roger, What shoes do you use for rock fishing and beach fishing? Love your work. Thanks mate
always beautful weather where you live lucky boy!
You got that right!
Roger, regarding your best killer rig, when do you use flourocarbon and when do you use coated wire? Where I am in Qld we either get tailor or non toothy fish. Do you wait until you get eaten off before changing to wire?
Looks like it would be a good squid spot as well.
Yes I think so
So it's probably worthwhile going for a look see first? No intention of fishing just seeing what's there for next time.
I usually look first
Hi Roger, great vids! On your light beach set up, is the reference to the Nasci c500 reel correct? I cannot see it on the various vendor sites. Thanks
Another great video.
Over here in SA we don't have as many opportunities for rock fishing, so that prompts me to ask a "newbie" question ...
Was your line choice based on mono's better durability in turbulent water and the ever-present rough rock surfaces?
Yes pretty much, it is more abrasion resistant
@frankbrookes3930• Where in SA? Or is it South America? If South Africa [RSA], I've been rock fishing over 70 years from Mozambique to Namibian borders. What takes your opportunities away? I had many Brookes friends in KZN in the 50's. Have a good day.
Hi where is the video to see you doing the line rig I dont see it
I will prefer to use thread for tight the pilchard than use 1 loop because after your bait lose the loop make a close bond . Wht do u think roger?
Use circle hooks sir. No more gut hooking, self setting too
Hello Mr Osborne I wanted to ask you if from a sandy beach I can fish with the big sliding float and you would have advice to succeed?
Thank you and nice video on this Saturday.
Most times you would not use a float from a sandy beach but it is possible
🙏👍🙋♂️
i think thats a kawhai mate.. @19:18
I tried it off the Southern end of Bombo this avo. I hooked something with weight but it broke the line on the rocks! :-( Bombo looks good atm. A clear gutter between the sand bar and the beach.
Sounds good John
Hey mate if it’s really really snaggy and weedy but there are heaps of fish there do you use a float or just use a weedless hook
A float or no sinker
@@RogerOsborneFishing thanks mate I’ll give it a go just getting into rock fishing it’s really really good I love it so far
Would this rig work in other setting rather than just rock fishing
Hi Roger do you go after Ludarick at all if so any chance of do a video please with tips. Many thanks
Hi Russell, I used to do a lot of Luderick fishing. Yes I will do a video soon
It wouldn't be a classic Rodger Osbourne video without a salmon being caught. 😂👏✌
Hi Roger. With this setup what main line and leader strengths are you using?
15kg but the leader to the sinker is lighter at 10kg so it will break first if you do get snagged
Nice❤
Thanks 🔥
What time is good for fishing?
All day 👌
Hi Roger, what part of Australia are you in? Not asking for your fishing spot, just a rough idea pretty please 😊
Sydney 👍👍
newcastle
Ulladulla South Coast Maffa
Been watching heaps of fishing lately, and I was just wondering why everyone throws the huge Flatheads they catch back in the Lake. Flatheads are beautiful eating, just can't work out why they are all throwing them back in the water.
no need to keep every fish you catch. unless you like making the area fishless. also its illegal to keep one over 70cm
@@jerrysberrys3415 I know that. But every video I watch they are throwing huge Flathead back in the water. Not anywhere near 70 cm either. Maybe they just don't like fish. Quite aware to throw small fish back in the water also.
@@KangaJack-ns9gd I have seen that also. One kid caught 5 of them, one was massive, and he threw every Flathead back in the water. I cannot work it out either.
@@SimonPaterson-gu3jj Yep, not just me is it.
conservation in action
Central Coast Terrigal Avoca Shelly Beach great back tailor Alexandra headlands
Dolphin Point
What was the weight of the sinker?
120g
@@RogerOsborneFishingi don't see a sinker on your line though? Ahh half way through the video I saw a sinker. I'm confused though because In another video you say not to use a sinker or swivel at all when rock fishing.
Sometimes the fish are there, sometimes they're not, I always seem to go fishing when they're not.
13:41
Rog, ya said you only have an hour before it get dark then said it was 10 in the morning 😂
yes, it was a different day
Nice video as always. However, if that cast was 70-80 metres, I can cast 60 metals at least 150 metres :P As usual, fishermen love to exaggerate
basic error too heavy a sinker and main line , using fresh bait from catches or collecting crabs and cunje big advantage. some times preserving left over baits require salting salted striped tuna is brilliant using strip baits. anchoring bait with that heavy sinker is not always best. light sinker or floating gradually sinking much more effective.
Old Mate!
Gday buddy
With all respect, but that line connecting the sinker to the swivel was waaaaay longer than 50cm
Maybe 60cm
It’s a misconception to call the piece of line between your swivel and hook your leader. It’s not, it’s just part of your rig. Because you’re using mono as your main line you’re pretty safe. If you were using braid you wouldn’t be. A leader is a length of mono/fluorocarbon between your main line and your swivel, length and strength depends on weather you’re fishing off a beach or rocks.
Could the definition be changing due to common belief? 🤔 language is always evolving.
@@SouthCoastChompers not in this instance. Using mono as a main line on the rocks is not a bad idea largely because of the abrasiveness versus braid. Imagine if the mainline was braid and rubbed against the rocks and he had a decent fish on, the line would snap. Hence using a length of fluorocarbon between mainline and swivel. As mentioned above length determined by either fishing off rocks or beach. Further to that braid has no stretch whereas mono/fluorocarbon does. If a decent fish suddenly turns and runs at least you have that stretch in the line absorb the sudden force.
@@smileyface-re7fx I know the difference between line types braid/mono/flouro 👍🏻. My point is that everyone calls the piece of fluorocarbon attached to the terminal end a leader. If everyone calls it that way then that is what it is… I learnt a while ago to not bother correcting people that the correct way to spell jail is gaol. Language evolves.
@@SouthCoastChompers no they don’t. Just the ones who don’t get it.
Leader is the line or wire between your main line and the hook or lure. What you on about
you can catch ANYTHING in Australia, In CAlifornia... MEH... It's SHIET out here.