The Serious Sam Iceberg Explained

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024

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  • @kirbhoward2125
    @kirbhoward2125 4 роки тому +121

    Hey, I'm the guy that made the Iceberg. Good vidya. Just a few things
    1: Serious Sammy and Mental Mate are siblings of Sam according to their bios in the Sam 2 multiplayer thing, not alternate versions of Sam.
    2: Save the Earth was a seemingly lost Croteam game made and released before they worked on Serious Sam.
    3: I got quite a few things wrong, so take some of the things with a grain of salt. Hell, someone replied to my original post with explanations for stuff I got wrong and things like that.

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +17

      Thanks you so much for this information. I've addressed some of my mistakes in a follow up video that I pinned in the comments

    • @mrmaxguy65
      @mrmaxguy65 4 роки тому

      @@seriouslyquestionable he is not maker.

    • @aprofondir
      @aprofondir Рік тому +1

      Save the Earth was a TV call-in game

  • @FrameRater
    @FrameRater 4 роки тому +91

    20:34 there is a weird screenshot that surfaced years ago of a Serious Sam Alpha build showcasing an early Sacred Yards. It's a particularly strange image because it surfaced before the Alpha was even known to still exist. Then, when we finally GOT the alpha, the level is nowhere to be found. The screenshot is also fairly modern, a high resolution. This is also before Serious Sam Origins. So yeah, really weird image. At one point I was planning on going down this rabbit hole but I never got around to it.

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +10

      ah, thank you, I've addressed this mistake in the follow up video that I pinned in the comments. Thank you so much for your help

    • @FrameRater
      @FrameRater Рік тому +1

      In hindsight, the Origins team got more than just the alpha build. I'm guessing an early Sacred Yards was among the assets they were given. The screen's upload date on serioussite isn't far from the Origins reveal trailer.

  • @xristaka8199
    @xristaka8199 3 роки тому +36

    Woooow good job man.Never expected someone to make an iceberg for Serious Sam.Guys like you are a blessing for the community.

  • @atlassarnosian555
    @atlassarnosian555 4 роки тому +49

    7:19 It's a glitch in Serious Sam HD if you go past the heat stroke area, the sand dunes had no collision past that and you'd sink through and end up in the box that shows the intro cutscene in space. Not any theory, just an out of bounds glitch.

  • @Br0leg
    @Br0leg Рік тому +7

    1:58 , not sure if you got an answer yet ( I’m late xd) But TSE had Dunes ost playing in background for a portion of the intro sequence. The book part.

    • @moronichybrid
      @moronichybrid 5 місяців тому +2

      Fancy seeing you here, loud man

  • @SolaisY
    @SolaisY Рік тому +23

    I'm Solais, apparently after I left Croteam people had a conspiracy about my very sudden departure, as in, before I disappeared, I posted a footage from then unreleased SS4 on the Croteam discord, while it was set to slow mode. People thought I was fired because of me leaking SS4 stuff and the discord was set to slow mode to combat this because "only the admin of the discord can do that"; apparently they were unaware of the fact that I was the co-funder of the official Croteam discord server and had admin powers so I set the slow mode myself to make sure my farewell message won't get lost, lel.
    In general, this iceberg picture was likely created by someone from the old Serious Sam forums and current discord servers, with many of them referencing stuff that's only really known to people part of these communities and even then in an informal way, so it's difficult to track down what many of them really mean just with a google search.

    • @jank5989
      @jank5989 11 місяців тому +1

      Fala ti brajo ZBOG vas trepcu pred nama KO moze second encounter preigrat na hard je bog

  • @mrmaxguy65
    @mrmaxguy65 4 роки тому +37

    Actually, TSE DOES have Dunes leimotif in The Land of the Damned level.

    • @mrmaxguy65
      @mrmaxguy65 4 роки тому +1

      And regarding personal one, I vividly remember same thing happening to me when I was 11 I think?

    • @konstantin2309
      @konstantin2309 2 роки тому

      No, I think it's just jingle bells

    • @moronichybrid
      @moronichybrid 5 місяців тому

      @@konstantin2309 Jingle Bells was heard in the valley portion of the level.

  • @kenifreak
    @kenifreak 2 роки тому +10

    ''A personal one'' reffers to Kenny getting killed in Serious Sam: 4.

  • @jesse7157
    @jesse7157 2 роки тому +7

    Just finished serious sam 4. Honestly I prefer it to DOOM. The humor is more prevalent and the sheer absurdity of it was so damn fun

  • @beef9785
    @beef9785 4 роки тому +68

    saying that TSE isnt canon is pathetic

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +20

      Yeah, I think it should just be considered canon... it literally does no harm to the series lore

    • @xFluing
      @xFluing 4 роки тому +28

      @@seriouslyquestionable It really is considered canon, I believe croteam finally tweeted and confirmed it is canon, right before SS4 released.

    • @mrmaxguy65
      @mrmaxguy65 4 роки тому +2

      Hello beef

    • @beef9785
      @beef9785 4 роки тому +1

      @@mrmaxguy65 hello

    • @maxilchev6884
      @maxilchev6884 3 роки тому +3

      @@seriouslyquestionable Except it does. From the Sirians expanding to different civilizations other than Egypt even though they shouldn't cause those civilizations didn't exist at the time, to Persepolis and Babylon being in two completely different countries to Croteam themselves being the cause of the game, It has the most lore breaks and most illogical story out of the series. Whether it should remain canon is a question, but saying it fits canon is denial of reality.

  • @ajmanogac3646
    @ajmanogac3646 3 роки тому +28

    Fun Fact:in the first level in SSTFE "Hatshesput" and on the left side of temple there is an weird platform that can be opened with 7 shoots with rocket launcher and you will then release and empty hole

    • @goldenjebboni1331
      @goldenjebboni1331 Рік тому

      Coul you provide a specific place, im actually curious about this

    • @brett8094
      @brett8094 10 місяців тому +3

      it's supposed to be an alligator pit but was unused/turned into easter egg

    • @vthemachine7965
      @vthemachine7965 6 місяців тому +1

      Another fact about hatshesput. At least in the HD version if you turn your difficulty to very easy and you walk left up the hill and fall off the side of the world, you will be transported to the beginning slide. (Edit: I'm an idiot who didn't watch the whole video until now)

  • @TheSeriousSoul
    @TheSeriousSoul Рік тому +1

    Serious Sam TSE has the Dunes Lietmotif in the City Of The Gods peace track for those wondering.

  • @beef9785
    @beef9785 4 роки тому +6

    Also nice video,love the iceberg concept being used in sam universe

  • @arnaldofernandez
    @arnaldofernandez 2 роки тому +5

    This video is more like a fun fact than an iceberg.

  • @leonvilagos3802
    @leonvilagos3802 2 роки тому +2

    3:25 fun fact Duke Nukem Forever came out after Serious Sam 2 let alone Serious Sam TSE

  • @pavlo1207
    @pavlo1207 3 роки тому +8

    Now that's neat. I haven't played anything apart from ss2 in my childhood and dystimia, but your delivery makes this very interesting and easy to get through. I'm surprised this vid had not that many views, hence the comment to help promote this in algorithm a bit

    • @pavlo1207
      @pavlo1207 3 роки тому +5

      Btw you're prob wondering what the hell dystimia is, that's the creepy serious sam mod, Mutahar played it, can be found searching 'weird Russian game I played', I assumed it'd be at the bottom of the iceberg, but looks like it's not well-known outside of russian speaking countries

  • @Nevermore2790
    @Nevermore2790 4 роки тому +24

    Sam never went to Persepolis because....
    Sam: "Good morning, Babylon!"
    [Later]
    Sam: "Oof, these Babylonians are totally crazy!"
    It's ALL in Babylon.
    Also, Karnak's First Pylon is were Sam entered the Karnak Temple Complex.

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +3

      True, because it all happened in the Babylonian Empire, Babylon itself is just a city (where the tower of babel is). Sam might've still gone to Persepolis because it's in the Babylonian empire

    • @mrmaxguy65
      @mrmaxguy65 3 роки тому +4

      @@seriouslyquestionable Actually, the Persepolis is located in Iran and Babylon is in Iraq.

    • @lewsmal9959
      @lewsmal9959 3 роки тому

      @@mrmaxguy65 Looking demo version of the game have changes like we head to pyramid and this level must be similar to Karnak Demo, some changes happen to Persepolis like old they left in game
      1) Head through Persepolis
      2) we head to Babylon through Gilgamesh Temple
      Where is the second location unknown

  • @paultom123456
    @paultom123456 3 роки тому +10

    With the Dune thing, Serious Sam TSE had the land of the damned Attack theme.

  • @atlassarnosian555
    @atlassarnosian555 4 роки тому +14

    Y-NOT is NETRICSA's original name for Serious Sam 1. Nobody knows how it originally functioned had it been implemented for Sam Alpha.

  • @VenomVendue
    @VenomVendue 3 роки тому +8

    The glitching Into space can be done on the very first level of the tfe if you cross the hills left of the temple have done it a few times and works every time

  • @noxentoxicar1160
    @noxentoxicar1160 4 роки тому +1

    Wow I was not expecting to find a serious Sam video here!
    Great job!

  • @almipopp5152
    @almipopp5152 4 роки тому +7

    Y-Knot was netricsa in the Serious Sam Alpha. Worked a little differently. Easy. And the space thing in Hatshepsut is true

  • @orton3541
    @orton3541 3 роки тому +4

    Something im quite surprised to not see here, was the fact that in the intro cutscene for BFE there is a fourth unidentified EDF soldier in the chopper along with Sam, Jones, Rodriguez,, Miller, and Miller's co-pilot.

  • @Wedgethe1st
    @Wedgethe1st Рік тому +1

    I remember following Serious Sam Origins always checking every few months for release date and it never came :'(

  • @iStoicVA
    @iStoicVA 2 роки тому +2

    the sam is mental theory could be proven by the fact that "sam awoke mental from his slumber" could simply be a reference to sam awaking the mental within him ie. twin personalities

  • @SeriousSamTFE
    @SeriousSamTFE Рік тому +1

    1.TSE has The Land Of The Damned sounds like Dunes
    2.TSE is a canon and it does change the lore
    3."Need Game? Why Not Serious Sam?" thats the answer
    4. 18:15 thats not an eye drop, thats a blob
    5. 21:08 its not true, it works just like a nuke

  • @helpfulgamer7426
    @helpfulgamer7426 2 роки тому +1

    About the crossbow in SS4, in the Siberian Mayhem trailer, a standalone DLC for SS4 the crossbow is shown and its used by Sam. Release date is 25 january so we need to wait to confirm this, but its worth noting I guess

    • @KidNamedKewlHam
      @KidNamedKewlHam 2 роки тому +2

      Croteam also brought back the AK-47 as a new weapon in Siberian Mayhem

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows 2 роки тому +3

    Not TOO indepth, but a Darn Great video!

  • @Rampy470
    @Rampy470 2 роки тому

    15:56 that cut AK looks shockingly like the CS Source AK. Same texture work and everything.

  • @FredericEllsworth104
    @FredericEllsworth104 2 роки тому +1

    A little fun fact about the DRM Arachnoid: he can be put in the game legitimately via a mod now. He's also available in the BFE Enhanced custom campaign as a secret in The Dark Bride, where he is killable but he has 3,000 HP!
    Also, Serious Sam eventually got a playable AK, the AK74MX, in Siberian Mayhem.

  • @Ryason55
    @Ryason55 4 місяці тому

    I always see people reference the one video for the DRM Scorpion, but there was another, less popular one (I can't seem to find it anymore), where the player goes further and encounters *another* DRM Scorpion, and just before they die you can spot a third one in the distance. It wasn't just one scorpion; You were meant to be swarmed by them.
    There's more Serious Sam 2 beta footage in SeriousZone's File Archive. Of particular note is a *very* compressed 32-minute hand-cam video showing someone playing the demo at E3 2005 while interviewing one of the devs.
    Being familiar with the SS3 editor, I have no idea what they mean by TTE Thumbnails. TTE could also refer to "The Third Encounter"... But there's nothing on that there either to my knowledge.

  • @ULTRAOutdoorsman
    @ULTRAOutdoorsman Рік тому

    This iceberg was created by an insane person so good job with the coverage

  • @owi8077
    @owi8077 Рік тому

    I encountered the space area in Hatshepsut way back in the day when I played TFE. It was super weird for me and kinda creepy

  • @plaginatordrive5977
    @plaginatordrive5977 Рік тому

    7:50, I've seen this secret as a kid, but I thought "maybe it's a bug"

  • @TheRogueMonk
    @TheRogueMonk 2 роки тому +1

    i might have also experienced the space thing

  • @Hilly_Billy15
    @Hilly_Billy15 2 місяці тому

    note that in serious sam tormental it has also a dune inspired track

  • @metalslug3fan
    @metalslug3fan Рік тому +1

    No mention of Serious Sam Double D XXL?

  • @jman0918
    @jman0918 2 роки тому

    Valley of the Jaguar definitely has a Dunes killing field and elevated approaches. One of the best areas in SS2

  • @toainsully
    @toainsully 2 роки тому +4

    Here are some of my things for the iceberg:
    1. Dunes appears in The Second Encounter in "Land of the Damned." It has also made its way into others games.
    Serious Sam's Bogus Detour - Dunes was here
    Serious Sam Tormental - Forest
    2. 4:07 The T.E.O.R. was in SS3's game files, it finally made an appearance in Serious Sam: Siberian Mayhem as the AK-74MX
    3. 7:04 The Serious Sam 4 level, "A Breakfast in France" uses the pre-alpha game's layout as the final version
    4. 20:10 That part was freaky. But with new AIs such as ChatGPT and AI song covers, I don't know
    5. This bit at 8:50 gets more convoluted in Siberian Mayhem
    6. 10:48 That's how I imagine my AU titled "Serious Sam: Reimagined." This AU also includes "Legend of the Beast DLC" and "Bright Island (Classics Revolution)
    7. 13:53 The Octanians would likely not survive warm temperatures
    8. 15:52 Same as T.E.O.R.
    9. 19:21 I hope Timelock Studios (the crew behind Siberian Mayhem) manages to make their own SSHD: The Next Encounter
    10. 19:37 Siberian Mayhem did a better refinery level
    11. 21:20 I was lied to....
    12. 20:19 Croteam would likely do SS2 Reboot after Talos Principle 2
    13. 2:40 In The Flesh was mentioned in Siberian Mayhem's Christmas challenges
    14. 4:55 I had a feeling that the Khnum (BFE variant) would fit well in Doom 3 as the Baron of Hell
    15. 15:43 My head-cannon of Mental's true form is that it's more of an "idea" rather than just an individual (similar to AVGN's theory on Giygas from Earthbound)

  • @greenth-mac2550
    @greenth-mac2550 6 місяців тому

    I am convinced that SS3 takes place in an alternate timeline of SS4, simply because of the characters in both games. For example:
    Jones is already dead in SS4 and yet we see another Jones in the intro scene.
    Rodreges and Hellfire both have different personalities in 3 & 4 and somehow both die easily. In SS4 they were almost equal to Sam in holding up against waves and waves of enemies alone.
    Professor Neil who appeared in SS4 and talked with Sam multiple times. In SS3 from the dialogues between Quinn and Sam it felt like the two (Neil & Sam) never met.
    The devs completely contradict both titles to each other to a point I cannot see SS3 as a sequel to SS4 unless it is in a different timeline. And since future Sam mentions "timelines", I think the possibility is more higher.

  • @ME262MKI
    @ME262MKI 3 роки тому +2

    For the part where the TSE it might not be canon is understandable, because technically TSE would be the last Serious Sam, chronologically speaking that is why doesn't affect any of the previous Serious Sam games if you remove it, in theory Serious Sam 2 would the continuation, but that's pretty debatable, we are still waiting an official continuation for Serious Sam

    • @jonatan1244
      @jonatan1244 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, its total bullshit to say such things. The same you can tell about first chronogically game which is SS4 lol

  • @mrmaxguy65
    @mrmaxguy65 4 роки тому +3

    Hello, I am the one of makers of this iceberg, so I am sorry for some incorrect statements.

  • @miroslavtodorov3310
    @miroslavtodorov3310 2 роки тому +1

    Ever since SS4, you have to take the Holy Grail. You then take it in SS 1 SE. Which is why I think it is:
    SS: Last Hope -> SS4 -> SS1FE -> SS1SE
    I don't know much about SS1NE however.

    • @gabyl1237
      @gabyl1237 Рік тому

      No its SS:Last Hope-->SS4-->SS3-->SS1FE-->SS1SE, SS2 is not cannon its basically changes the timeline of the events, and the main reason why u need to retake the Holy Grail is because u went back in time after SS3

  • @HatPeasyCat
    @HatPeasyCat 2 роки тому

    Ending up in space happend to me aswell. Idk which version of serious same tho (cuz i never had a disk). I first saw it on youtube, tried it myself and it worked. you fall through the ground and end up in space. Legit dont remember the version ...

  • @wedgythewedges5489
    @wedgythewedges5489 4 місяці тому

    Sam is Mental is always my thought,,,, remember what Mental tell Sam at the end of SS2 before the ending? Sam I am

  • @S.T.T.L
    @S.T.T.L Рік тому

    bro your subscribers count misses 000 (like near to million subscribers )
    very cool video btw

  • @casual_villain
    @casual_villain Рік тому +1

    Damn, so Doomguy is pretty much canon to Serious Sam.
    Would you happen to have a link or anything to further info about that? As a massive Doom fan, that’s the kind of weird shit that I love.

  • @jetpackdog3427
    @jetpackdog3427 3 роки тому

    Amazed that the busted kill counts didn't make it in.

  • @NathanAke000
    @NathanAke000 Рік тому

    5:03 Cane might be a reference to Quake 4, but idk??

  • @Brudiz
    @Brudiz 3 роки тому

    11:35
    Y-Knot - is the name of Netricsa in Serious Sam Alpha

  • @larasynthwave5052
    @larasynthwave5052 Рік тому

    You forgor about the secret tower in alley of the sphinx, that fascinated me so much as a child, what does it meaaan, what does it meaaaan... in reality, it was just something they forgor to remove

    • @ozziemahboi
      @ozziemahboi 3 місяці тому +1

      I do remember that, but i also remember a video about it that was on youtube that was made back in like maybe 2007 or 2008 called probably "Serious Sam Secret!" or something like that, and it was all the things like windows movie maker, 009 music and i think hypercam 2 or bandicam? It started with that and then showed the guy walking towards the mountains in alley of the sphinxes to where the tower is, and it just ends with the guy going around it, to this day i still havent been able to find it lol but hey thx for reminding me

    • @larasynthwave5052
      @larasynthwave5052 3 місяці тому

      @@ozziemahboi yesss exactlyyy omggg

  • @MichaelStrawn_I_am
    @MichaelStrawn_I_am 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, underrated for sure. Love the video man!
    Would you be interested in a collaboration? Us little guys must stick together. 😋

  • @actuallyZiggyZagga
    @actuallyZiggyZagga 4 роки тому +4

    13:06 "Save The Earth" is one of Croteam's first games, released in 1996. I don't entirely know what the gameplay was like but if you know more, please reply. (the only thing I have is this video: ua-cam.com/video/OdujAwrPV9U/v-deo.html)

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much, would you mind if I credited you in my follow up video where I address some of the mistakes I made?

  • @S1nwar
    @S1nwar 3 роки тому +1

    a mod to recreate the alpha? how many people want to have something like that? like 10?

  • @Ale0500053D
    @Ale0500053D 3 роки тому

    Amazing vídeo dude

  • @Rainer_das_Schlag-Fressvieh
    @Rainer_das_Schlag-Fressvieh 8 днів тому

    06:00 P Diddy was missing

  • @turkeyleg72
    @turkeyleg72 2 роки тому

    Wow nice job!

  • @darrydangle889
    @darrydangle889 3 роки тому +1

    Cool story, bro.

  • @Cyann33andaThird
    @Cyann33andaThird Рік тому

    good video, though you skimmed over quite a few things i think were worthy of being talked about more

  • @seriouslyquestionable
    @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +1

    To whom it may concern, I'll be making a follow up video where I address the things I got wrong and maybe a few extra points.
    Here is that Video: ua-cam.com/video/blytl_xeaZM/v-deo.html

  • @moonTerfixx.
    @moonTerfixx. 23 дні тому

    ss tse land of the damned fight ver is literally dunes

  • @ZalesakVID
    @ZalesakVID 3 роки тому

    I've never watched any of these new "iceberg" videos, so it's basically addressing and acknowledging little easter eggs and lore and stuff?

  • @Griffith74
    @Griffith74 2 роки тому +1

    oh shit its tomoko 6:11

  • @charlieroberts7031
    @charlieroberts7031 3 роки тому

    Is orgins out yet?

  • @Marduk401
    @Marduk401 Рік тому

    its persepolis not persopolis.

  • @jonatan1244
    @jonatan1244 3 роки тому +1

    18:20 so thats all about it? Not mentioning that it was made by John Carmack? (or John Romero, someone from doom developers) I found once huge article about that little thing and you just... say its there..
    This vid is more like shitberg, not iceberg

  • @rockleevic781
    @rockleevic781 2 роки тому +1

    Subtítulos al español

  • @rockleevic781
    @rockleevic781 11 днів тому

    Serious sam en español

  • @fudgebaker
    @fudgebaker 4 роки тому +2

    Noooo, you can't do this. Stop making all these things cringe! You're cringe! XD

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +3

      Hiiiiiiiiii Mallard.... are you on your period again? You comin' over for thanksgiving?

    • @fudgebaker
      @fudgebaker 4 роки тому +1

      @@seriouslyquestionable Of course I am. I need to confront you about this absolute cringe.

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +2

      @@fudgebaker it only sounds cringy to you because we're related

    • @fudgebaker
      @fudgebaker 4 роки тому +1

      @@seriouslyquestionable That's how I know you're cringe.
      Also, the reason that SSSE can be removed without affecting the lore, is because it's the last chronological chapter. I also remember reading somewhere that SS2 was considered not canon by Croteam anymore, but I can't say that with certainty.

    • @seriouslyquestionable
      @seriouslyquestionable  4 роки тому +1

      @@fudgebaker true about SS2 not being canon, that's why I put it in the spin off timeline... and it doesn't matter if you put TSE in front or behind TFE, sam still heads off to sirius... either in the cathedral rocket or the alien spaceship shortly put... TSE doesn't affect or add anything in the chronology

  • @ZChronicNebula
    @ZChronicNebula 10 місяців тому

    A

  • @daniilkrasnokutskiy4361
    @daniilkrasnokutskiy4361 3 роки тому

    На русский плищ