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I have a 7a engine willing to learn more about it
just built one of these for a 86 mr2..... great beast
haha did you get it tuned or have camshafts?
Rollachriz its got the cams out of a super charged 4age mr2 and looking to get adjustable cam gears
Love the conversion, where can i get the P28 installed and tuned on my corolla, im just running a 7AFE TURBO, love the low-end torque, im located in South Florida.
Call gully garage rob 954 638 2942
Hey man, Im running 7agte too but with a 20v head, i corrected the timing with the lower timing gear. Anyway mines on bone stock 7A internal and running 15psi through it for almost a year now no issue at all. People on the internet seems to think their weak for some reason but... their not! its massive fun to drive haha
haha just upgrade the rod bolts for extra insurance .. on my video you will see 7afe arp rod bolt part number grab those 😁 before you go more power and bigger boost 😉
+Rollachriz I actually wanna keep pushing it until it blows so I know how good stock internal are for 😂,
My 380cc injectors is completely maxed out at the moment. Wanting to drop 440 or 550 in and push more boost in 😂 I'm only running a tiny TD04L tho their only good for 19psi... Not far off now hahaha
+Brian Jeppesen ive done it already at 387whp the rods bent and snapped so i say safe 250whp maximum
+Rollachriz I'm guessing I'm around 220-230hp at the wheels right now. It's in a TE71 corolla with T50 gearbox and T series diff... And I have broken one of each already hahaha
+Brian Jeppesen haha yeah the gearbox not strong enough and the drive shaft either.. im using e series trannys now.. 220 whp fun ride.. once you get rods oistons and all 4age arp bottom end bolts flywheel bolt crank cap bolts ect its solid bottom end and will last 2-3 seasons racing before crank is shot around 500hp
Dude you're running a stock 7afe crankshaft +500hp. Nice. I need a cylinder head first where did you get your pistons?
Carillo cp pistons.. they are stronger then other brands like weisco. For people running higher hp from compression or boost.
I get them from company called rqce engineering in my area but you can order them online.
Did you bore your cylinders? 81mm?
@@Andron1cux 81.5mm
hey man those videos are such an inspiration! i really like what you have done. i have always wanted to to this honda ecu and dizzy and throttle body setup, but everyone on the internet said no!! so now i think i'm gonna do it :) but i have some questions regarding the dizzy since it's the hardest part, does it matter the way it rotates(cw or ccw)? how did you convert the gear on the original dizzy? is there anything important other than this to worry about?
thanks in advance :)
not sure which direction my friend my friend on tjis project car designed the shaft key bit if you want to call him thats fine! but i would recommend a standalone if you dont have access to shop materials and welding
also you would need a honda harness map sensor and a custom throttle pkate to mate to 4age so tje honda ecu can read the tps sensor.. we did tjis cause we all had the materials sitting around to avoid 1500$ standalone
sure I would love to contact him to get some answers. plus I have the ability to use everything I need, and I will get a full Honda harness with all its sensors and throttle body. man we share the same reason, avoiding extra expensive standalones!
+Saif Mansour you can try to contact him here lol but he doesnt give much info out but more to try to sell a setup 9546382942
I have a stock 4age16v I am having conrod bearings problem how do you think I can solve this problem
Did you spin bearings everytime you get a new bottom end? Or your bearings wearing out constantly and your changing them on time before disaster strikes? Hence the question conrod bearing problems?. Do you have pictures and how is your driving stlye
can someone please answer me one question what is FASTER 7AGE OR 4AGE BLACKTOP 20V?????
Radha Augustine . you can make a 7age black top. it turns the motor in to a 1.8L. So its a bigger motor with more power and torq. so the 7age is faster
Hey i have a 93 corolla with a 7aef and i want to put the 4age head only wanna keep 7aef block will it be a direct fit and where can i get it yhnx bro
yes direct fit with 4age headgasket adjustable cams and porsche 944 timing belt
Can you give me some advice? I'm currently building an 7age with 9,4 pistons, bigport head (early), 7afe gasket (0,4) with stock ecu. I pretend an daily 7age, don't intend turbo or N/a hi rev or something. Do i need the clio ARP rod bolts (thank you by share) or stock will do? What rod bearings do you recommend? The only way to find these only on ebay. I'm from Portugal and the car it's an ae86 map sensor with 10,1 pistons! (sorry the long comment)
hey man mo prob.. i recomend a 4age head gasket.. you can use 7age but problem is compression may be high and i am unaware of what octane fuels are available to you.. and another note the 7afe head gasket has to be moddified two exta coolant gallery for 4age head to cool properly.. 4age 9 compression piston will raise it into 10 comp area if the block is decked to piston height if not decked like mine is the comps not as high and the engine is non interference only reason i did not deck the block because i skipped timing on boost before several times to the point ive eleminated the spring in the tentioner.. the clio bolts are fine for na all motor setup and original toyota bearings are fine i use them in all my engines.. but my number 1 rule law at the shop is use race oil only in theses motors or they spin bearing like any 4age.. i recommend any high zddp oils like vr1 race oil by valvoline.. 20w50 synthetic for na or boost.. its extra insurance to loose 5hp on 4age becuase they are know to get oil temps hot thin down the oil and spin bearings.. many of us believe the 4age clearances are not of 10w30 but of a more copy clearanced bigger gap race engine. the theory we live by has stopped all of us at the shop from blowing 4age bearings down to 60%..
Here we have ron95 and ron98. The deck height it's the stock 0,6 and with the 9,4 and the 0,4 gasket the compression will be around 10,5 (if my math is correct...)
Until now i use castrol edge 5w30 or mobil 1 5w40 rally formula and never spun bearings... by other hand my driving it's daily and some trackdays and so far so good!
The 7afe that i bought when check the oem bearings they ALL spun on the rods. Measured the rods and the crank... and they are fine without any kind of scratch or bent... thats why use the main oem bearings from 4age (same size but better material) but the 7A seem weak after look to them after spun. The 4A are trimetal and 7A (at least mine) seems to be some kind of alloy (softer and thats why didn't damaged the crank) and i'm affraid with those...
The (new)oem rod bolts might do the trick with this setup or should use Arp for any setup?
+Hugo Siva well your daily i can see why you run those oils.. people over beat the daylights outta hondas evos ect street racing so 10w40 should be fine. well softer bearings do less damange to cranks but what ever bearing you decise is fine long as the engine is well lubercated.. you seem good to go on that ron 98.
+Hugo Siva yeah 7afe rods not the weak part its those weak flimsy rod bolts let loose at high rpm cause the rod starts to stretch.. i put 350whp on sock 7a rods with clio arp and eventually all 4 rods bent but the bolts held
holdmywetnutz thank you for your time! I see many people in several foruns saying this and that but all from others mouth. You are one of the few that really experience and share the REAL thing! Not what the friend said that is friend bend the rods without even know what was done to the engine. Everybody says "they are weak"(rods) but none of them break or bend them. As you said the bolts are a peace of crap! One of them damaged when i disassembled it! I'll buy the Arp's and the oem bearings and finish the engine. Wan't experience the torque and see if worth it! I've 2 ae86 one of them (was) an Usdm sr5, now with loom and euro bluetop installed and kouki rear axle with oem Lsd and 4,3 final ratio. I'm expecting an significant difference at general spec(not rev of course).
Thank you for share it!
I'm looking to build one for my 85' AW11. Do I just need a 7AFE and a 4AGE, then various parts?
Brett Voigt yeah you need 7afe block crank,flywheel and rods.. 4age head manifold and pistons. 4age waterpump, oil pump or 7afe oil pump. 4age harness.as.well. google matrix garage there website has all the info you need for 7age builds 😉😉
I just bought all i think i need to install this on my mr2. what didnu replace to install ur turbo? im a beginer but i really want to turbo my engine
Kool bro thnx alot now do i know where i can get the head?
oh man thats tough lol junk yards or engine import places
What water pump you using for this set up
Michael Hernandez 4age waterpump.. i cant use 7afe cause it flows backwards and its designed for different head so the 4age pump is for this head so i ran 4age pump
Thanks i bulid this set up for for a 1986 rwd corolla
Probably in couple month be on the street
Hey man do you got a sec to answer a few questions for me?? Id really appreciate it. My corolla threw a rod so i really really want to get it built to hold minimal 250 - 400 hp range. Im wanting to do this in my 95 5 speed corolla dx 1.8. Cash in hand to get every part needed for the build. I just need a complete parts list so i know where to start. (Im one with little experience so a complete parts list would be much appreciated.
On a spare block you Need forged pistons and forged aftermarket oversized rods depending on the block condition for cylinder boring. According to local.machine shop they will tell you the oversized piston that should be purchased. You need All new rod and main bearings also clearanced for thicker oil and 400hp reliability. The following ARP race hardware form a 4age engine will fit 1.8 7afe...arp flywheel bolts, arp mainstuds, arp head studs.. you would need to get the whole bottom end block assembly hot tanked (cleaned) and fully balanced. Since you have no experience.. I wouldn't build the engine yourself if your not experienced based in oil clearances and hire a professional machanic or machinist with the old mentality loose is fast.
@@holdmywetnutz my bad i should of been a little more clear, i know what im doing i meant to say im not familiar with building a 7age its definitely going to be interesting
@@VisualReality801 ahhh gotcha 👌
Anyway i could get a list of your whole setup?
@@VisualReality801 custom intake manifold. Custom exhaust manifold. Custom race cams. Toda valve springs and crower retainers, supertech valves. over sized head studs and modded cometic headgasket. T3t4 turbo with water lines, n2 cam belt stabilizer. Dowel pined flywheel, billet crank pully, oversized waterpump gear. Tomie crank cap ladders. All arp hardware. Custom Honda harness and hondata ecu. 2200cc injectors, fuel pressure regulator, walboro 450 fuel pump with custom relay and fuse. E58 transmission swap for over 350whp. e85 fuel with tune. All polyurethane mounts, act pressure plate and custom made clutch disk. Forged rods and carillo pistons. Stage 3 wrist pins, fully balanced bottom end. 1650cfm cooling fan
Man 400 on the stock Block I'm trying to get there man lol just got my car back lol
Xavier Mccree haha almost 600 at one time
Thank you!! ;-)
Hey, i have å Celica 96 1.8l ST and wanted to improve the hp. Any recommendations? I was thinking of installing an turbo, but not sure the enginr can handle it. Plzz answar
It has a 7afe
You can turbo it but not crazy like 300hp cause stock pistons are weak.. you can boost it moderately. Over seas the sportive has a turbo 7afe stock form but like 8 or 9psi. Buddy of mine ran 13psi but it all depends on the tune.. if your gonna spend money to turbocharge I recommend doing pistons and rods as soon as you get a tune because boost is addicting and you may turn it up pass what the piston can handle.. but overall yes mild low boost the 7afe will do just fine
@@holdmywetnutz hey how much hp is made at those levels of boost?
@@alansmilealot I am not sure as my buddy never dynoed the car but we firmly believe in 200hp area
@@holdmywetnutz got damn, that's way more than the 7afe stock 110-115hp
And is it 16 valve or 20 sorry asking so much idk about toyo lole thats bro
16v are the ones in america..
From what toyota bro? In the usa
rolachris wat turbo is that could u send me the website on ebay
Juan Montanez maxspeeding rods gt35r.
Hey I know lee tuned this car I'm trying to build something similar but in a tercel I know nothing about to toyota comming from a Honda back round if you can hit me that would be nice on some info
oh damn thats crazy you know my tuner lol
yeah man just ask and i will gibe you what i know
+holdmywetnutz yeah lee told me about your car an he was speaking real highly of it so when I seen your videos I just knew it was you
+Andy Anderson yeah he did wonderfuk things and figured out the engines likes and dislikes.. he can make more power but i had to many limitations on the build such as too small of a turbo manifold head lifting ,injectors maxed ect.. but that will all end soon manifolds almost done and custom 625 arp studs too in future
what timing belt do you use ?
Sang Pash i have a 7afe oil pump so the tensioner sits spaced differently from 4age oil pump. Which is recommended for this setup. I am using a 1987 Porsche 924 timing belt. I have no tensioner spring. It tightened differently so belt wont skip timing
GT35R? HOLY CRAP way too big.
madjimms lolol thats old mentality from 90s.. todays turbos are more efficient and have better inducer wheels and with good tuners they can make maps to spool up bigger turbos then back off timing. plus gt35 is a midsized turbo.. and way better then all my previous small turbos lol.. i lagg what a half car lenght then come rape facing hard lol. i may go to a bigger wheel in future.. right now i make 400whp before 6000 rpm and at 7200 rpm i am over 500whp
@@holdmywetnutz what boost are you running and what rpm does it reach peak boost?
@@A7Xforlife99 that depends on what cam lap setup I feel like running.. one setup can push the turbo out of efficiency a little bit and get full boost before 5k and another full boost 6k.. but that's high boost.. both setups will be well over 12-15 psi boost at those rpms..