Mad respect from a Honda fella 🙌 ... 💯% Subscribed !! I got an E11 rolla and ur swap is something uniquely successful ... wish A.F parts were easily available off the shelf like the tons of choices in Honda Afm vendors provide.
So tru but 4age stuff is widely available so that's why most use this swap.. if you want a motor that flows like a b18c5 for the corolla you can do a 2zzge swap
@@holdmywetnutz 2zz is a good choice. Usually i collect necessary parts n keep ready when base is being changed .. like for 2ZZ, need to have mounts + headers + some sort of plug n play adapter/s or harness,, to be able to connect straight fit without havin to troubleshoot bugs for weeks and (worst part) being at the mercy of an electrician ! Axles can be taken care locally. Already removed the analogue/mechanical cluster and swapped to electrical type.. it even had sockets ready in dash from factory unlike Hondas. Any suggestion on these 3; Ecu adapter/mounts/headers ? I got a 99 model E11 hatch, G6R type, but with 4AFE 1.3L
@@crx4lyf if you have a 1.3 l its probable 4efe.. in Jamaica they love those engines.. they swap the 1.5l Paseo block on the E heads and build them for boost.. my buddy has a Terrell with 4efe and took it out to put in a turbo 20v 4age.. if you have the money and resources could do turbo 5efe or 4age or 2zzge swap. 2zzge in a lightweight corolla gutted with cams pistons, standalone and billet rockers can make 210-230whp. May cost alot but also turbo 2zzge is also a good route. 4age 20/16 is ok but not up to today's standard unless you got money to build all motor which I think is a waste compared to na 2zzge or boosting a 20v or 16v 4age. What is your budget thats the reality that depicts your future swap
@@holdmywetnutz my bad.. correct, its 4efe. As the sayin goes, there's no replacement for displacement. A 1.8 block or above will be a much better application compared to 1.3 or 1.6 any day... Torque curve improves a lot, just like when we frank a b16 or b18 head with a 2.0 block. Past few yrs I've switched from B motor to an h2b setup with H23v stock motor + I/H/E & with fewer efforts n expenses,, its a friggin beast ... its worlds apart from well built B na setups. Back to 2zz , anyone u know that can hook me up with headers+mounts and most importantly ECU adapter ? Intention is to use an uncut 2zz Engine harness and its ECU to mate along with e11 dash and other miscellaneous wiring. Several friends i know of had their rollas abandoned for months till they could figure the VVTL not engaging, then bugs n misfiring issues, unknown problems with fuel gauge readings, etc, etc. I honestly cannot take that route n wanna do it right and have it rolling in 1-2 days.
@@crx4lyf i get you with the Frankenstein swaps lol. Man honestly I don't know anyone. But I do know a guy that successfully put a k20 in a 93-97 corolla body.. I'm not sure if he's done a write up or not.. if your going 2zzge standalone right off the bat gives you way more power.
So today, watching this video, it finally kinda clicked. I saw the adapter plate on the distributor, and now it all makes sense. You just swapped over as many Honda external bits to plug into Honda wiring. You're smart, less of a wiring job and mostly relocating plugs.
Hey man, this is a sick build! So glad I found your channel. I live in Australia and I have a 95 corolla conquest with a 7afe, mostly stock. I'm not on fulls for another year and a half but I'd like to get more out of her. She's a great car and engine. I've been considering doing a conversion to a 7age using a 4age head, exhaust manifold, and whatnot. So, without a turbo, do you know what sort of power you can get out of them with this conversion, what should the conversion involve and how much? Is it worth it? You know your shit with this build so if you could chuck me some info and advice that'd be sick! Thanks man, once again sick build! #rollalyf
TBD_TheBlackDog haha thanks man glad you like.. as far as na all motor I've seen with work 190-200whp. Some out there making more hp.. it does cost some money to do. Machining the blocks bore and to fit right sized pistons in. Best to run a stand alone.. but a 4age harness can compensate for some of the setup.. is it worth the money yes I would say so. If you go to matrixgarage.com it has a uage setup page and all the parts needed 😀😀 that you can order
Rollachriz haha cheers man. Not sure if I'd want to go all out right away, I could easily afford it, but mainly just want to get a bit more power for the moment, maybe 20-30kw. Was thinking possibly 4age head, exhaust manifold, intake and ecu. So not too extreme. Do you think something like that would produce some decent gains? Wouldn't cost that much either. And as you've mentioned, the 7afe stock internals are good for even high boost so they should be fine for something like that. Cheers 👊
TBD_TheBlackDog You can you stock internals but not Stock pistons with the 4 AGE had.. the weak link on 7afe is the rod bolts. Arp doesn't make rod bolts for 7afe but I know a set that will fit.. as for boost stock rods good for like 250hp. Crank is fine for more. Since your over seas a nice 20v head would be nice on the 7a block with 20v pistons and high octane fuel
Chris you are our hero, well done for your patient and thanks for sharing with us! What headgasket do you have ?Also a small port head will make small or big difference vs bigport on a turbo setup? what size is yours?
I have cosmetic head gasket.. small port head will make up to 300hp easier and better then bigport. but after 300hp bigport I feel is better... you can machine the smallport to flow more then bigport after running over 300hp. you can run stock bigport cams in smallport head to gain few more hp 😀 too. I run a bigport head since I was aiming at higher numbers.
@@holdmywetnutz i bought a 4agze motor with map sensor and tending to swap to turbo. Do you know how much power those toyota pistons (i heard they are forged from factory) can handle and how much gze rods?
@@ΘωμάςΤσιλίκας not sure how much those stock hyperutectic pistons can take. Never seen a high hp one in my presence.. rods I have seen personally take up 400hp.
@@holdmywetnutz i want to thank you for your answers, so quick and honest, you seem to bee a very nice character too and i love to meet people like you! Greetings from Greece!
Hey nice setup right now I have an AE101 1997 4afe 3 speed aut. transmission and I just bought the whole conversion for a 5 speed manual from a ae 92 which I think it's a c50 if I'm not mistaken and I really want to know if I could use the same bellhousing (c50) and just replace the internals to the ones of the c52 since I'm about to go 7age thanks for the help
No need to swap bell housings.. ae92 trans IS c52 and a 4.3 final drive ratio. 4afe c50 trans will bolt up to 7afe.. it has a different first gear and 2nd gear ratio from c52.. so c50 or c52 will bolt up to 4afe or 7afe
I'm not quite aware much about timing for the but currently the crankshaft is at dead center. The cam gears are non adjustable but they two were at dead center but I've been having slow ignition so I'm quite sure something ain't right
@akeemjohnson4868 need adjustable cams or a mrp broached crank sprocket gear to correct timing. Even tho you lined everything up when you tightened the timing belt, the timing advances by 10 degrees. It needs to be corrected with adjustable or broached crank sprocket gear
yah bro nice setup I have a 96 Toyota corolla with a 7afe I want to go to a 7age with the 4age pistons and the 4age 16v redtop head for a high compression n/a or go 7afte I can't make up my mind but I am with 100% 90s corollas are fast little cars for what they are and I have beat 2 lightly moded Hondas. and all I got on my 7afe is a intake and ngk spark plug wires and a breather value filter
spencer salle yeah uafe is ok can beat some homdas but tje ecu os so reserved you havent seen the true potential of a 7afe.. i have friends tbat have 7afte boosted almost 250hp and they move
hey rollachriz am from jamaica i watch all your videos i love your set up am doing one months now bt am having trouble getting the right timing belt an timing tensioner an am using 7afe oil pump i bought 3 different timing belt nw along we two tensioner really nd some advice bro
What cylinder head are you using ? I'm and a 16v guy only but I can send you to my buddys site matrixgarage.com he has a write up on 7age conversion with 20v or 16 head and sells the parts you need
For daily street use (200-250 hp max) Celica 7afe which one is better: Just turbo it and change rods or to create 7age with turbo? The cylinder head that i can buy is the smallport.
@@BROSIDUS for people who like to rev and for all motor purposes.. turbo too it's better for over 350- 400hp.. you could build your stock head but sourcing rare parts makers are tough
I talked with dynosty , they said the 550 haltech would be my best way to do since they tune it that and the cost, if I did the work, would cost me around 1500 for the kit, also the engine I picked up, unsure of the condition, because the place I bought it from bought it from an auction the reason i don't know of the condition is because the tag sat 89 corolla gts with 6400 miles but the intake is the in the wrong direction more like it's from a 89 MR2, think the miles are right due to all the seals and gaskets look almost unused and new... i can grab picture for you if needed. However have not opened the oil pan or valve cover yet.
Cp9:1 pistons h beam rods all arp crank,rod ,crankcap bolts.. stock head,mid sized turbo e85 fuel,intake manifold, 70mm throttle honda ecu, very accurate piston ring gaps, good compression across the board
cuthbert Parris never came out in the usa.. so parts limited.. 2nd 16v head can make more power imo.. they can run bigger lift cams with litle mods to the head vs 20v high lift cams hit the spark plug tubes. 3rd i didnt want to get involded getting vvt timing to work with honda harness cause this was a test car. 4) 20v are good but just not something i can source easy 16v head
Mad respect from a Honda fella 🙌 ... 💯% Subscribed !!
I got an E11 rolla and ur swap is something uniquely successful ... wish A.F parts were easily available off the shelf like the tons of choices in Honda Afm vendors provide.
So tru but 4age stuff is widely available so that's why most use this swap.. if you want a motor that flows like a b18c5 for the corolla you can do a 2zzge swap
@@holdmywetnutz 2zz is a good choice. Usually i collect necessary parts n keep ready when base is being changed .. like for 2ZZ, need to have mounts + headers + some sort of plug n play adapter/s or harness,, to be able to connect straight fit without havin to troubleshoot bugs for weeks and (worst part) being at the mercy of an electrician !
Axles can be taken care locally.
Already removed the analogue/mechanical cluster and swapped to electrical type.. it even had sockets ready in dash from factory unlike Hondas.
Any suggestion on these 3; Ecu adapter/mounts/headers ?
I got a 99 model E11 hatch, G6R type, but with 4AFE 1.3L
@@crx4lyf if you have a 1.3 l its probable 4efe.. in Jamaica they love those engines.. they swap the 1.5l Paseo block on the E heads and build them for boost.. my buddy has a Terrell with 4efe and took it out to put in a turbo 20v 4age.. if you have the money and resources could do turbo 5efe or 4age or 2zzge swap. 2zzge in a lightweight corolla gutted with cams pistons, standalone and billet rockers can make 210-230whp. May cost alot but also turbo 2zzge is also a good route. 4age 20/16 is ok but not up to today's standard unless you got money to build all motor which I think is a waste compared to na 2zzge or boosting a 20v or 16v 4age. What is your budget thats the reality that depicts your future swap
@@holdmywetnutz my bad.. correct, its 4efe. As the sayin goes, there's no replacement for displacement. A 1.8 block or above will be a much better application compared to 1.3 or 1.6 any day... Torque curve improves a lot, just like when we frank a b16 or b18 head with a 2.0 block.
Past few yrs I've switched from B motor to an h2b setup with H23v stock motor + I/H/E & with fewer efforts n expenses,, its a friggin beast ... its worlds apart from well built B na setups.
Back to 2zz , anyone u know that can hook me up with headers+mounts and most importantly ECU adapter ? Intention is to use an uncut 2zz Engine harness and its ECU to mate along with e11 dash and other miscellaneous wiring.
Several friends i know of had their rollas abandoned for months till they could figure the VVTL not engaging, then bugs n misfiring issues, unknown problems with fuel gauge readings, etc, etc.
I honestly cannot take that route n wanna do it right and have it rolling in 1-2 days.
@@crx4lyf i get you with the Frankenstein swaps lol. Man honestly I don't know anyone. But I do know a guy that successfully put a k20 in a 93-97 corolla body.. I'm not sure if he's done a write up or not.. if your going 2zzge standalone right off the bat gives you way more power.
Badass shit man. Cant wait to get a 7age going in my fx16
awesome build keep it up. always been wanting to do this build. still have a blue top. thanks for the post!!
thanks homie was worth every penny
How much did it run you in the end?
Quardin Lyttle ahh man i dont know lol
Lmao you just run with it huh
Quardin Lyttle yeah i spent my whole life savings on 4ages and 7ages lol.. kept.trying and blowing motors till i got it right lol
Thanks for this detailed review haha! More HP to you man!
Justine Vera lol thanks i tried
Thanks for great video I got a 4agez motor with a gtk35 A/R 63.48 exhaust housing making 305 hp on 1.6 bar boost with e85 thank you
Nice!!
Couple years late but you should explain the honda setup alittle more im interested show me ur secrets
Thanx for the tips bro...I got tired of Honda's they are burned out lol
So today, watching this video, it finally kinda clicked. I saw the adapter plate on the distributor, and now it all makes sense. You just swapped over as many Honda external bits to plug into Honda wiring. You're smart, less of a wiring job and mostly relocating plugs.
Colin Smith 😁😁😁😁
Hey, love your setup.....planning on boosting my AE111 7age blacktop with the blacktop pistons.
Ok awesome And make sure to get it tuned properly and you will be very happy
Hey man, this is a sick build! So glad I found your channel. I live in Australia and I have a 95 corolla conquest with a 7afe, mostly stock. I'm not on fulls for another year and a half but I'd like to get more out of her. She's a great car and engine. I've been considering doing a conversion to a 7age using a 4age head, exhaust manifold, and whatnot. So, without a turbo, do you know what sort of power you can get out of them with this conversion, what should the conversion involve and how much? Is it worth it? You know your shit with this build so if you could chuck me some info and advice that'd be sick! Thanks man, once again sick build! #rollalyf
TBD_TheBlackDog haha thanks man glad you like.. as far as na all motor I've seen with work 190-200whp. Some out there making more hp.. it does cost some money to do. Machining the blocks bore and to fit right sized pistons in. Best to run a stand alone.. but a 4age harness can compensate for some of the setup.. is it worth the money yes I would say so. If you go to matrixgarage.com it has a uage setup page and all the parts needed 😀😀 that you can order
Rollachriz haha cheers man. Not sure if I'd want to go all out right away, I could easily afford it, but mainly just want to get a bit more power for the moment, maybe 20-30kw. Was thinking possibly 4age head, exhaust manifold, intake and ecu. So not too extreme. Do you think something like that would produce some decent gains? Wouldn't cost that much either. And as you've mentioned, the 7afe stock internals are good for even high boost so they should be fine for something like that. Cheers 👊
TBD_TheBlackDog You can you stock internals but not Stock pistons with the 4 AGE had.. the weak link on 7afe is the rod bolts. Arp doesn't make rod bolts for 7afe but I know a set that will fit.. as for boost stock rods good for like 250hp. Crank is fine for more. Since your over seas a nice 20v head would be nice on the 7a block with 20v pistons and high octane fuel
TBD_TheBlackDog but aftermarket rods online cost 300$ so it's better upgrade then stock rods
Chris you are our hero, well done for your patient and thanks for sharing with us! What headgasket do you have ?Also a small port head will make small or big difference vs bigport on a turbo setup? what size is yours?
I have cosmetic head gasket.. small port head will make up to 300hp easier and better then bigport. but after 300hp bigport I feel is better... you can machine the smallport to flow more then bigport after running over 300hp. you can run stock bigport cams in smallport head to gain few more hp 😀 too.
I run a bigport head since I was aiming at higher numbers.
@@holdmywetnutz i bought a 4agze motor with map sensor and tending to swap to turbo. Do you know how much power those toyota pistons (i heard they are forged from factory) can handle and how much gze rods?
@@ΘωμάςΤσιλίκας not sure how much those stock hyperutectic pistons can take. Never seen a high hp one in my presence.. rods I have seen personally take up 400hp.
@@holdmywetnutz i want to thank you for your answers, so quick and honest, you seem to bee a very nice character too and i love to meet people like you! Greetings from Greece!
@@ΘωμάςΤσιλίκας aNytime bro 😀
Hey nice setup right now I have an AE101 1997 4afe 3 speed aut. transmission and I just bought the whole conversion for a 5 speed manual from a ae 92 which I think it's a c50 if I'm not mistaken and I really want to know if I could use the same bellhousing (c50) and just replace the internals to the ones of the c52 since I'm about to go 7age thanks for the help
No need to swap bell housings.. ae92 trans IS c52 and a 4.3 final drive ratio. 4afe c50 trans will bolt up to 7afe.. it has a different first gear and 2nd gear ratio from c52.. so c50 or c52 will bolt up to 4afe or 7afe
Good afternoon to you i have an enquiry about setting timing on a 7age build .
Okay
I'm not quite aware much about timing for the but currently the crankshaft is at dead center. The cam gears are non adjustable but they two were at dead center but I've been having slow ignition so I'm quite sure something ain't right
@akeemjohnson4868 need adjustable cams or a mrp broached crank sprocket gear to correct timing. Even tho you lined everything up when you tightened the timing belt, the timing advances by 10 degrees. It needs to be corrected with adjustable or broached crank sprocket gear
Why don’t you use a mr2 aw11 lsd gearbox with the big cv axels
Gaz Girl i do now
yah bro nice setup I have a 96 Toyota corolla with a 7afe I want to go to a 7age with the 4age pistons and the 4age 16v redtop head for a high compression n/a or go 7afte I can't make up my mind but I am with 100% 90s corollas are fast little cars for what they are and I have beat 2 lightly moded Hondas. and all I got on my 7afe is a intake and ngk spark plug wires and a breather value filter
spencer salle yeah uafe is ok can beat some homdas but tje ecu os so reserved you havent seen the true potential of a 7afe.. i have friends tbat have 7afte boosted almost 250hp and they
move
He'll yah they do and ik I got a lot of work for her still and I got big plans for it
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just get a 4age blacktop 20v and it destroys any honda
You should try swapping to a C56 box will hold alot more.
wont hold lol all c series boxes are too weak for my power and i sheer all the gear teeth off.. they are good but dont last when making high hp..
i habe the E58 lsd ae92 gze tranny in now
i want to know how did you use the honda dizzy with the ecu so i can beat them hondas here in florida with my corolla
Benito Alvarez lol its best to get standalone because fabrication cost money
hey rollachriz am from jamaica i watch all your videos i love your set up am doing one months now bt am having trouble getting the right timing belt an timing tensioner an am using 7afe oil pump i bought 3 different timing belt nw along we two tensioner really nd some advice bro
What cylinder head are you using ? I'm and a 16v guy only but I can send you to my buddys site matrixgarage.com he has a write up on 7age conversion with 20v or 16 head and sells the parts you need
@@holdmywetnutz black top 20v
@@sheldonmccook5399 yes checkout the site.. theybsell parts needed as well
For daily street use (200-250 hp max) Celica 7afe which one is better: Just turbo it and change rods or to create 7age with turbo? The cylinder head that i can buy is the smallport.
7afe turbo can make 250hp easy with standalone and Google turbo setup and some internals she good for more
If you have smallport head then you could do 7age conversion but still need a tunable ecu or the car never will perform right
@@holdmywetnutz yeah but is there a point of buying the 4age head if i go turbo?
@@BROSIDUS for people who like to rev and for all motor purposes.. turbo too it's better for over 350- 400hp.. you could build your stock head but sourcing rare parts makers are tough
@@holdmywetnutz cheers mate great videos
how did you get the honda p28 working with the 7age? will it work with the normal 4age setup too? I'm building a 4age as well on a budget
Lairex Rai if your on budget go standalone.. to much money on p28 on 16v heads and alot of customizing and welding if you dont have a shop
I talked with dynosty , they said the 550 haltech would be my best way to do since they tune it that and the cost, if I did the work, would cost me around 1500 for the kit, also the engine I picked up, unsure of the condition, because the place I bought it from bought it from an auction the reason i don't know of the condition is because the tag sat 89 corolla gts with 6400 miles but the intake is the in the wrong direction more like it's from a 89 MR2, think the miles are right due to all the seals and gaskets look almost unused and new... i can grab picture for you if needed. However have not opened the oil pan or valve cover yet.
Lairex Rai yeah haltec is great choice
Alright man, thanks for the advice.
7age into my all track wagon? Maybee...
WiryOak
hello
Yesss
Do you have a site with engine build and specs
Cp9:1 pistons h beam rods all arp crank,rod ,crankcap bolts.. stock head,mid sized turbo e85 fuel,intake manifold, 70mm throttle honda ecu, very accurate piston ring gaps, good compression across the board
Good stuff to know
What connecting rods are u using?
Maxspeeding rods
@@holdmywetnutz where they modify to accept the floating wrist pin?
@@slow_carsgarage7422 no they are already set to accommodate 4age pistons and wrist pins
@@holdmywetnutz y did they come with connecting rod bolts or where those separate?
@@slow_carsgarage7422 comes with them
how come u never went 20v head with this set up?
cuthbert Parris never came out in the usa.. so parts limited.. 2nd 16v head can make more power imo.. they can run bigger lift cams with litle mods to the head vs 20v high lift cams hit the spark plug tubes. 3rd i didnt want to get involded getting vvt timing to work with honda harness cause this was a test car. 4) 20v are good but just not something i can source easy 16v head
Jus remember usa never got 20valves what a shame
what wheels
nippon formula 1 rims with direzza star2 tires
ooo. 17s right? Check out my 7AFE refresh head video! I'll sub
how r u running a honda ecu n wat type n harness ?
G C obd2 harness to obd1 harness adapter and custom dizzy
What timing belt did you use
1987 Porsche timing belt works on 7afe oil pump. If you use 4age oil pump a different belt is needed
@@holdmywetnutz am told that the 4age 16 valve belt can work on the 20 valve bt i'll need to change the timing tensioner
@@sheldonmccook5399 Yes the 4age tensioner has a smaller diameter then the 7afe tensioner so it will give more slack
@@holdmywetnutz is this T107?? belt
@@sheldonmccook5399 not sure the part number
What clutch do you have?
4 puck custom now.. at the time of this video it was 6 puck
How is this guy the only one to document this im dissappointed
Maybe i will make updated better video version in more detail not sure
Glad youre still around man i remember you from years ago
@@ryandull6581 sorry if Im rude or forgetful lol but did we meet before in florida like at car meet or show?
Nah man im way up in washington lol
@@ryandull6581 haha oh ok 🤣