What Compact Tractor Should I Buy??
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- This week we start our search for a new 25 hp compact tractor with front endloader, belly mower, and back hoe. We take a look at John Deere, Kubota, Mahindra, TYM, Rural King tractors, Branson, LS, Kioti, and Massey Ferguson!
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I have a Bobcat sub compact. For me it is great for my use and really like it. Great warranty and service.
I have a 40 40 LS. I bought it new in 2014 and I love it! I also have a old Ford 8n
Hey Brian that's awesome! I have an old 1957 Ford 850 lol
Though I’m not a farmer and have never driven a tractor, this is a most interesting way to obtain data for your decision.
Thank you! I'm trying to take my time and make a smart decision since I'm not in a rush to get one
Good luck with your comparisons and what you end up with. Fred. 🙏🏻🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👋👋👍👍
Thank you Fred! 👍👍
Good luck getting your hands on anything right now. My bro-inlaw ordered a kubota 2501 back in April and it didn't come in until August. Dealer called him to tell him it was here and also that it showed up without the loader which took another 3-4 wks. It's a bad time to purchase almost anything. I myself like the Massey or Kioti.
Oh yeah for sure Dan! That's why it's a good time for me to look around and make a decision. Cant make any hasty decisions right now haha
Have a 22 hp Bobcat good tractor but service is slow. Just bought a Kioti 6 months ago and that dealer is a class act. He got me the tractor when he said he would . Prices were good. Both are made in the same factory.
I have a Branson 2515r with loader , forks, back hoe, tiller, and a brush hog. I am very happy with this tractor and its a work horse. It can handle 2200#s hoisting and the back hoe is very strong and durable.
That is good to know Hank! Thanks for sharing that
Can't help with Tractors but trust you find a fabulous one at a great bargain price😊🤞🏽🙏🏼.
Hey CJ, I just went past Ross Tractor today and they had 5 or 6 small ones on the lot. I’ve bout 2 LS tractors from them. I’ve dealt with them since the early 90’s and they are a stand up company.. don’t know much about the other brands, good luck with your search
Hey Dave that's good to know! Thanks for the info
I like many of the brands you are considering. I really liked the Massey, and there is a dealer 20 minutes from me that seems to be great. But I didn't like how they sat (it was uncomfortable to push the reverse pedal as my leg was hitting one of the levers). I ended up with a Deere 1025R that had 25 hours on it. The #1 reason I got the Deere is because they have by far the easiest mower deck to take on and off. If you will be doing loader and backhoe work with this machine, you won't want the mowing deck on there getting in your way, and therefore the ease of getting it on and off is something to take into consideration.
Massey GC 1705 is a little beast, I love mine, not as expensive as John Deere, I got a loader, tiller and mower with mine for less than a bare John Deere.
Just bought an LS M125 with everything you want. Arrives tomorrow!
That's awesome man! We signed a deal this year to use their different tractors and attachments in our videos!
In the process of buying a tractor as well, getting to old to be taking care of an acre all on my own. Going through the same process narrowing down top three picks, so far Kioti has topped them all with warranty, great fiancncing, and most tractor for the price. Problem with me is that closest dealership is 4hrs away, that in its self makes it eerie already, praying all goes well. Looking at the Kioti 2520, started with Hill Country Tractor in TX that turned into a cluster once they started misrepresenting/manipulating the numbers to get the most profit out us, now dealing with another dealership in Seminole TX. Very true, the dealership does matter, hoping for a better experience....
Yes sir.. no matter what tractor brand it's so important to have a good dealer .. good luck buddy! 👍
I just recently bought a Kubota L2501 with a brush mower, rear blade and loader. I went with Kubota due to my years of experience watching contractors abuse them beyond belief and they still kept running. The extended warranty was very cheap in comparison to what it covers, I have several dealers near me and I liked the L series because it is a plain jane tractor, most everything is operated without electronics, it does not have a mid PTO so it won;t take a belly mower, but I am not a fan of belly mowers on tractors. It seems like when I need to go to the woods, the belly mower is on and I have to take it off, and when I want to mow, the belly mower is on the barn and I have to put it on. The best thing about compact John Deere tractors is the drive over mounting of the belly mower but that it is it. I agree with you that they are not interested in the compact tractor market and it shows.
On another note, I got a call from my DS dealer yesterday and my Kozy King is in and ready to be picked up, I bought this model because of your video showing its operation. I am going to be use it primarily with coal and i am wondering if you ever mastered the coal fire in yours?
I use my Kubota for coal purposes also..
Yeah I see where belly mowers will get in the way, but this tractor will primarily be used for mowing our yard. I would like to find one that is easy to take on and off. I would definitely say I haven't mastered burning coal lol but I have burned some and it did pretty good. I still have some learning to do with burning coal but I think you will really like that stove!
Id stay with LS since you already have one and an established relationship.
Personally, I like my Massey they are built well.
I should mention that the massey dealer by me...not so good at helping after you leave the lot.
That's exactly what I was talking about in the video. Not all dealers are equal lol.
If your happy with your LS tractor and the dealership has looked after you and they have what you desire in another tractor . Then I would get other prices on different makes with same options and then sit down with your LS dealer and try too work things out . If there a good dealer and appreciate you coming back for another purchase the odds are you will get a fair deal . A couple thousand dollars is not a lot money when it comes too a dealer that will be there for you . They can also call there LS rep and fight for you as a return customer on price . I did this once and they dropped the price . Grass is not always greener on the other side of the fence . Be careful CJ 👍
Solid advice Steve! Appreciate it buddy!
Cj just bought branson 2205h have had it for two month went and look at it one day and had it at my home the next day . The sales man showed me one thing look at is the cold start the branson and the kubota the only two that did not smoke bad that's why I bought branson
Hey that's great Rodney! They look like nice tractors 👍🚜🇺🇲
Branson and tym n RK are made by kukje! I have a kiote and no problems.
Massey makes a great product for years.....my dad's got a 1225 from 2000 that's just an absolute beast of a little machine.... We've always had great service with our Massey dealers but we're in Illinois
Thanks Tyler! My great grandpap always ran Masseys on his farm. No doubt solid tractors. Since this video we have actually signed a deal with LS Tractor to showcase and make videos for them! They have been great tractors for us on our farm too 👍🚜
@@Mallard5Farmhouse
Well hey you can't beat that getting paid to make videos and run good machines
That's what I thought too lol
Branson was absorbed by TYM
Yes sir it was.. but back when I made this video it hadn't been announced yet 👍
Good luck CJ, I really don't have a favorite tractor but it I was buying a new one it wouldn't be green! Especially in that size of tractor, that's a tuff decision again best of luck buddy 👍
I agree about the green lol. It's a tough decision but it sure is fun checking them all out haha
Hi CJ,
I like your thought process, I bought a Branson 2505h tractor with a backhoe and no mower deck at the beginning of the year.It has been good so far.
Not sure what you need to mow as opposed to brush hogging, you might want to consider a good ZTR mower with a 48 to 60" deck, it is amazing how much time you can save and you will have more than enough to buy a Backhoe for your LS. The backhoe for your LS will be bigger and stronger than what you would get on a smaller tractor.
best wishes
Raymond
Hey Ray thanks so much for sharing your experience with your Branson! Trust me if my yard was flatter I'd be buying a zero turn..but my big bank is way to steep and it would take me forever to push mow. But I am leaning towards getting a backhoe for my 40hp LS 👍
Can I ask you about your Branson? We are in the market for one to mow and dig. Do you use a brush hog? Also how deep will the backhoe dig on the 25hp branson?
@@Haphagurd Hi HW, I haven’t used the rear pto yet, I don’t have a brush hog, the backhoe goes down 76”, keep your rpm's up and it should do what you need. Handles 5’ rake no problem.
I agree....z turn is comparable in pricing, fast, durable if you spend the money and definitely get the hoe for the LS.. I know too many people that have bought many backhoes for their small compact tractors and have not been happy because they don't have the lift capacity they thought they could use it for.
@Ray Bees41 I'm not so sure about that LS backhoe statement you made being stronger than most. I just watched a video of a guy who swears he didn't over work his LS backhoe and he showed pictures of the boom and it had completely collapsed. Thin metal right where it should've been thick and gussetted. It looked to be 1/8" steel. The dealer had to fix or replace it ,I don't remember. Absolute garbage especially for $ $7,000.
I am looking into a 37hp range tractor and the RK37 comes standard with rear hydraulic for 3pt which Kubota does not and has 400 lb 3pt lifting capacity over the Kubota and over 1200 more lifting capacity with the bucket... that's quite a bit difference... nit sure about the other brands listed as I'm still researching!
Hey Matthew! When I was searching for my first tractor that's why I ended up with LS. All the extra features for a way better price 👍
I have a Kioti, and am very pleased with it. However, some Kioti owners have reported difficulty getting warranty repairs and/or replacement parts (other than normal wear items). I have not experienced either issue. Massey Ferguson tractors are good, but extremely expensive! My recommendation is: if you're satisfied with your LS, and like your dealer, stick with that brand.
Thanks for the info man! We actually are getting ready to sign a deal with LS to use their tractors and attachments here on our farm to make videos with! 👍🚜
I went with the 2515R Branson. I love it. Very tight turning radius. Highest Load lifting capacity. Price is the best value I think.
Thanks Ray for the info! Didn't know about them having a tight turning radius too 👍🚜
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I also like how the Branson is all mechanical. Once its out of warranty, Im doing an egt guage and turning up the fuel just a little, so Ill have a 30hp 2515R. I also prefer a shuttle shift.....less to go wrong.
I see what you mean about the shuttle shift.. I just think a hydrostatic would be easier for me when I'm mowing all these awkward spots and slopes
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I use a zero turn for my yard. We are pretty hilly here around Fort Knox. I have a finish mower for the Branson, but honestly its just faster and easier on a 60" Hustler Raptor.
I'd love to have a zero turn.. how do mow the slopes? At an angle?
CJ good luck on the search hope you find a great tractor that will meet all your needs. Take care, Ben.
#ogaoutdoors
Thanks ol buddy! This sure is fun looking lol
I think the RK parts distributor is down near you. I went with a Kubota l2501 and a zero turn …. Belly mower sounds good but in your way..
Oh I didn't know that Chris. Kubota are good no doubt. A belly mower will get in the way but since this tractor will primarily be used for mowing it shouldn't be a problem for me. I cant do a zero turn here with my one super steep bank by the house
Bad Boy (3026) AKA Branson here, 80+ hours so far no reall issues beside a bolt and a diff valve . Bad Boy send me parts no issues.
T y m Good small tractor. All the problem with mind is human error. But they are built cheap
I have a John Deere tractor I love my John Deere tractor we have a big property stanfield's what does a really good job where I need to go i like your new video love your video buddy 🚜
That's good Travis! I'm glad your John Deere is a good tractor for you!
Well, it's possible I could be a little bias as the name of my channel suggests, but here's my $.02. I'm only posting because you said we weren't completely cutting the bottom three out. I ended up getting a 1023E, instead of a 1025R or rather a X758. I was able to buy about 6 months before the pandemic started, so it was as close to a buyer's market as it is a seller's market now. Yes as the old saying goes, "Nothing Costs Like a Deere". This is true, but I do believe they are the top of the list, along with "the Orange Guys" when it comes to features and cutting edge performance in terms of ergonomics. I've checked out the RK and TYM's as we have a dealer in town and they seemed well built but didn't have the comfort and ease of function. I think JD and Kubota have the best resales for sure, but to me that's not a factor unless you trade up on tractors all the time. But it's a factor. Now, in my opinion and I hate to say this, but the JD dealer network is very spotty. You get a lot of really good dealers that people love. And you get a fair number of dealers people can't stand. Mine is a little mixed. I'm not wild about the service dept. The sales dept is neither great or bad. As a data nerd, I don't need a salesman to tell me much about the tractor, that's what UA-cam and Deere.com is for. The parts dept is great and here's another advantage. I deal with a fair number of older Lawn & Garden tractors and will also restore them here and there. And Deere will still carry many, if not a majority of parts from tractors built 50 years ago. I think that's pretty cool. Bottomline, consider the 1023E is you need a SCUT, if you need a larger tractor, you'll have to consider a 2R or 3R, as they have mid-PTO's but they can be very pricey, but are seriously nice tractors for sure.
Hey I'm glad you posted this comment! Lots of good info for anyone looking
deere scuts are noisy and overpriced. yes, resale market is high on orange and green bc they are 50-60% higher for the same features in the first place and no better tractor. IMO 20 yrs on tractors.
There's a Morgan on you tube the RK let him use 3 different size tractors & praises them , no problems
Oh yeah I've met him.. Mike Morgan.. he's a nice guy.. he has Kubotas again now
just stick with the blue.......good to see you
Thanks Eddie! Glad to hear from you
How's she goin'? I have a 2007 Massey Ferguson GC2300. The week I bought it, the casting for the 3 point lift cylinder cracked open. I live about an hour from my dealer. When I called him him he sent a flatbed truck to my place to pick up the tractor that afternoon and offered to replace it with a loaner, while it was in the shop for repairs. I declined the loaner and he took my tractor to his shop and started the repairs that day. He had to order parts and again offered a loaner, which I refused. My tractor was ready the next week and he delivered it to me. My dealer is great to deal with and as you saw in my story, the service is top of the pot too!!! I think the price I paid was decent at the time. Just sayin'...
Hey Mike! That's exactly what I mean, a good dealer is SO important! Sounds like you got a dandy!
Holy Moly Lemon Cannoli!! I'm FIRST!! This is great👍👍👍
No you were not!! ...I always watch the video first...then comment 😂. Hope you are doing fine Mike. 😊.
Haha you both can be first 😅😅
@@Mallard5Farmhouse Hahaha....Noooo....I was jesting; let's have Mike as winner. 🥳. 👍🏼
Good sport Moira 🤣🤣🤣
I've run Kubota and New Holland and was happy with both - noticed NH not on your list CJ.
Haha I was waiting for someone to ask me that Pete. The reason New Holland isn't on there is because LS is on there. Same tractor pretty much without paying more for the name 👍
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I didn't know that. Haven't seen LS up our way. Would you liken it to Kioti vs. Kubota?
No LS actually makes the New Hollands up to 37 hp I think
@@Mallard5Farmhouse they actually make all tractors for New Holland up to the open cab Workmaster 60. The Boomer are all made by LS. Very good tractors. The key is how good is the dealer and service. Great video
Hey thanks Alan! 👍🚜
have you bought your new tractor yet? last year I was tractor shopping I ordered a brand new kuboba from my local dealer after about 9 months of waiting he still couldn't give me a delivery date so I went to a kioti dealer had a new tractor within 2 weeks, couldn't be happier I got a bigger tractor with more options for less money than the kuboba
Hey that's great to hear man! Since we have the deal with LS I'm not planning on buying a tractor for a while 👍
I have the Mahindra Max 26 xl - 610 hours shuttle shift Tough little tractor. Also have the Mahindra 1626 another good one. Both are 26 hp.
That's good to hear Joyce! Thanks for sharing that! Back when I was first looking for tractors I looked at Mahindra a good bit. In the end, all the horror stories I saw on UA-cam and a couple of my friends had made me move on and keep looking
Heard lots of complaints regarding screw loose 😂, bolts not placed with enough tork, and coming loose during the first 200hrs. So you are the right person to ask, is it true? And warranty. I'm looking to buy a small tractor 24-28hp. My nearest dealers are, BC, JD, MF, Kioti, Mahindra. Im Not too crazy about MF and JD. And with FEL, Mower, BH.
I have a Mahindra XLT 26 shuttle it's a little beast works well 800 hrs no issues so far
M.F. Has the best parts availability.
I don't doubt that all! Thanks Brad!
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I had a 25hp tractor with a backhoe, and sold it for a 45hp with a backhoe.. Something to keep in mine if you plan on using it to dig a lot. Especially tree stumps.
That is something to think about thanks Brad!
Pretty sure TYM manufacturers RK, Branson, BobCat, Cabela's, Bass Pro, etc. TYM is the parent company.
Bobcat is made by Kioti. TYM bought Branson, and TYM made RK and Cabelas (for that short time).
Which tractor is a better quality and more reliable tractor, Kioti or a Massey Feeguson?
That's a good question..unfortunately I can't help you because I've never been around either one. But from what I've heard you can't go wrong with either of them
I’m actually in the process of buying a LS 35 hp from a dealer in Lancaster Ohio , it looks like the one in Dennison is out of business or then doesn’t have there number updated, what LS dealer do you go with now
Yeah poor Mendenhall is having some issues going on with his dealership. I hope he comes back. But he recommended to me the Tractor Depot in Salem, Ohio. I met the owner Mike down in Florida and he's a good guy 👍
Hello, what brand/ tractor did you end up going with?
Hey Ranchito! We actually signed a deal with LS Tractor to make videos of different tractors for them 👍🚜🇺🇲
I am on the market as well for a new tractor. Would be the first tractor ever for me. I live in the middle of nowhere so any dealer is about 2 hours away minimum. I was initially considering a Yanmar because of price and warranty, but that’s the one brand I have zero dealers close by. I am leaning toward the Branson 2515h or the 3515h, I just have not been able to find another compact tractor that comes close to their weight and lifting capacity. The price is also a bargain compared with Kubota and JD. Anyone else that went with a Branson have any regrets?
Hey Joe idk if you saw our newer videos but we have signed a deal with LS to use their tractors. They have been awesome for us. As far as Branson, I have seen that they are no longer going to make Branson tractors anymore and they will all be TYM. 👍
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I looked at LS but seemed to be more expensive than the Branson or Yanmar. My budget is about $28k max. I need a front loader, must be HST and a backhoe would be nice but not sure that’s within my price range. I’ll have to look at LS I had ruled them out along with JD and Kubota because of price. Not sure I can get an LS with what I need and stick to my budget.
Good luck man!
Kioti or Bobcat are really nice 6 year warranty and all parts are built Kioti they are not a component tractor. Iseki tractor builts a nice Massy ferguson.
I am 6 foot and about 270 lbs. I am looking at the same tractors you are, but my big concern is what one has more room. I am thinking it is the RK 25. Can anyone let me know what is has the most room? I sat on an emax 20 and it was just so tight.
I'm 6 foot also but I haven't sat in enough cabs to help you with this
Branson give you most room I'm 5'6 and dam pedals were alot farther out then other models. That was 2015h I sat on
Make a checklist of what you want and need, put it on the board/paper. Dealers that are too far away no matter how good they are would be a no go for me now having experienced this with my current tractor, so my replacement tractor dealer needs to be close. The dealer needs to actually have parts. That left me with dealers for Massey, Mahindra, LS, Deere, Kubota in play that are within a 30-45 minutes drive. Your requirements will be different than mine, but here were my requirements with this 25hp tractor to get below the emissions nonsense that is a problem long term for all of these tractors. I wanted no gadgets, gizmos, electronics. I want an old school mechanical heavy built long lasting tractor. Think of the Ford tractor you have only new, 4x4, with a loader. I would encourage you to remove price as a filter. Look for quality, local support, parts. Reliability and longevity are the key. I just went through this exercise and ended up holding my nose, paying the premium for the L2501 gear drive. It is as close to that old school Ford as I am going to find. Turns only 2000rpm for PTO speed, it is under powered, and over built. It should last for a long time if parts can be found. You can still find brand new parts being made for those old Ford's...
Hey you broke it down and made a solid decision buddy.. everyone has different thoughts but you did good 👍
In 2018 I bought a J.D.3025e. I wouldn't recommend this tractor. Yes it's a decent machine with very few options. It's their affordable economy tractor with very few options. One, it doesn't have a mid PTO, two, you can't get a backhoe for the 3 E series. I'm really impressed with the RK 25. It's a rebranded TYM tractor. I think its a lot less in price and pretty reliable. You have all the options you'd ever need and save money too boot. Another tractor I really like is Bobcat 2025. Its a larger frame tractor that you could get all the options you mentioned. But, CJ I'm a tractor enthusiast, I like em all no matter the brand. The J.D. I have is what I could afford at the time and its a good machine but with very few options as to what I can do. Just saying, don't do as I did. Do you research buddy, so you won't have buyers remorse.
Yes Dean I am trying to do just as you said. I like those Bobcat tractors too! They are slick. I've read where they are pretty much the same as Kioti tractors too. Thanks for sharing about your John Deere. I have never gotten excited over them.
@@Mallard5Farmhouse if your not already subscribed watch Ohio Wood Burner on UA-cam. He has a Bobcat 2040 I believe. Not only a good looking tractor but its a real mighty machine.
I've watched him before. Didn't know he had a Bobcat. Have to check him out!
You’ve probably already bought something but a Zero Turn in my experience is much better than a belly mower tractor.
No we signed a deal with LS but I'm still using my Craftsman to mow the yard. What brand zero turn do you like?
@@Mallard5Farmhouse for the value I like the Husqvarna professional line. You get a lot of mower for your money with them. I really like Scag mowers too. Those two are my favorite. Scag has semi pro models that are affordable. Toro,Exmark and John Deere make good mowers. My daughter has a JD homeowner type ZT and it’s a pretty good mower. I’ve not used any others to make a recommendation on but I’ve heard good things about Bad Boy too.
What tractor did you end up buying? And would you buy it again?
Hey Ranchito! I didn't end up buying one because we ended up signing a deal with LS Tractor to use their tractors and implements in our videos 👍
Where are your Branson and Kioti dealerships located?
Branson dealer is in south west Pennsylvania near Washington and the Kioti is close to Cadiz Ohio
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I assume the Branson dealer you are talking about is located in Ruff Creek. PA. If so, are you aware there is a Kioti dealer 5 miles south of Ruff Creek in Waynesburg, PA? He also carries John Deere too......4 Seasons & Garden Inc. Ross Tractor Sales is located in Waynesburg too. They sell LS and McCormick
No I didn't know that.. those other two didn't pop up when I searched
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I personally know the owner of 4 Seasons (Murray Hoy)....he is a good guy and he has good mechanics that work for him. Ross Tractor has good mechanics too. You can see a lot of different tractors if you make to trip.
That's good to know! Thanks Geoff!
I have a neighbor who has two LS tractors. The last one he bought a MT7, the first time putting the fuel in the tractor the fuel cap broke; would not unlock to open. The dealer told him put it on a trailer and bring it to them, FOR A FUEL CAP. I even told the dealer what a joke that is for a simple fuel cap and can't have a mechanic come over for a few minutes and fix it. Their response was PUT IT ON A TRAILER AND BRING IT TO THE DEALERSHIP SIR. After hearing that crushed any chance of me buying an LS tractor. And to make it even more ridiculous the LS dealership is only 30 minutes away from the house. Before someone says why he didn't just drive it over to the dealership is the highway to get there is dangerous for tractors to drive on and he didn't have enough fuel to make it.
kubota for resale, then JD, then kioti
That's a good thought thanks!!
@@Mallard5Farmhouse I know they are bottom of your list, but resale time comes around, I would only feel comfortable buying these used…. Anything Japanese or South Korean has been proven to be some of the best engineering ever.
Well that's why I'm comfortable with LS too because they are the same as New Holland which has good resale value too
Yanmar 425
Sorry can’t help with tractors. Sewing machines , yes, but not tractors!
The farms around here mostly have huge John Deere tractors though.
Yeah there's no doubt those big John Deere tractors are nice! Glad I have a go to person for sewing machines lol
@@Mallard5Farmhouse 😂😂
Hey, you can sale the swing machines to the farmers wife, they're busy stitching the ripped pants of husbands!🤣🤣. Fixing tractors cause lots of pants ripping.
Hey CJ find a tractor yet
Hey David! No I haven't.. got a lot of great advice from all of you and I'm still deciding what I'm going to do
@@Mallard5Farmhouse thanks for quick reply I've got a xr4150 love it but having pto fuse blowing issues at dealers now am patient they'll figure it out
Man that sucks! Let me know what they find out with that if you would
Will do
Im having difficulty placing your accent. Where are you from?
Haha I didn't think I had an accent .. we are in Ohio 👍
That makes sense, I was hearing a little Missouri but also a little Minnesota and new England
I can honestly say I've never been to any of those haha
Yanmar
yes, if you enjoy ringing ears when you're not working.