The Howling V10 Makes the 2006 BMW M5 a Future Classic!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- I review this first year of the E60 generation BMW M5 with it's sweet V10 engine and SMG automated-manual transmission. I talk about how it compares to the older and newer M5s and where I think it'll stand in BMW M history. What do you think of the 2006 BMW M5? Huge thanks to Ron and Sport Dimensions for providing this mint condition, low-mileage example of the E60 M5! Check out what these guys do in motorsports and performance! www.sd.team
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Doug Demuro: the BMW M5 E60 is the Performance Car You Shouldn’t Buy
Matt: 9:24
I love how majority of the people who comment have not owned one but like to copy and post how unreliable the car is. Every high performance vehicle has their faults, and most have a "catastrophic" failure weak point. It's like if you mod your vehicle to handle more boost - cracked head please.
Much of it is because of Doug. He highlighted all the issues for his massive audience.
people like to parrot all the shit they read on the internet to sound smart
was the car high on maintenance yes
did some had problem with the rods bearings yes
but people buy this car now under 20 000$ and dont think it will cost the maintenance of a 125 000$ car
if you dont treat this car right it will fight back
wait until the oil is at temperature before hard driving the car help alot with the rod bearings ''flaw''
i love mine and I never know if i will get rid of it
this car was one of a kind and still is
FragnesisBroadcast yea, I mean basically, read the manual book, that’s what I did with my 325 ci 2003 it’s amazing after over ten years still doing great, personally I did all the fixing myself, I even changed the engine swap. I miss early 2000s bmw
Yes, have any of these haters seen the service costs of any modern high performance car, obviously not, i have owned mine for 3 years now, and loved every minute, i guess if you have to moan about maintanance costs, you cant afford one, stick to the toyota boys.
I really think the audience was misunderstood for this car. I track mines and while sure, not the best in turns can make up the time on straights. It's actually quite adequate in turns. The SMG comes alive on the track. Somewhere few people who have even tested this vehicle will take it.
It’s a great car and it’s been very reliable because I have it serviced when it’s due by either Bmw or a specialist that knows these cars , I warm the car up by keeping the revs below 3k until at working temperature this also warms the gearbox at the same time this is a must , only use 10w-60 oil ( I use Castrol Edge for M series cars ) , also when the car is driven hard switch the M button off and let it have a breather for 20 mins so the gearbox can cool down this prolongs the life of the clutch as well and if your worried about the rod bearings have the oil sampled every two years or every oil change I have mine done every two years because I don’t use it as a daily driver which I don’t recommend this car is more of a enthusiast car tbh ... there is one thing to check when purchasing and that is have the throttle actuators been replaced because this is something that will go wrong I had mine done two years ago at a cost of £620 by a company called Rebuild not far from me just outside southeast London the guys name is Jason I highly recommend he also updates the circuit board at the same time this is a world wide service....these cars will go wrong if they are abused day in day out which unfortunately happens and these are always the negative comments that reach the forums.... I hope this info helps out and if your thinking of purchasing one of these magnificent cars find the right one and keep hold of it because the good ones are becoming quite rare now plus it’s going up slowly and will become a future classic 😎👍🇬🇧
no 10w 60 in this car .. 5w 50 is much better for bearings
@@jayd1008 every mechanic I’ve spoken to over the 6 years of ownership recommends the oil that is recommended by the manufacturer , plus the new bearings have more tolerance then the tight tolerance which was the problem in the first place , it seems to be a lot of Americans that use the 5W 50 as I’ve never met or spoken to another owner in the UK that uses this.
@@groupb5420 Redline 5w50 buddy ! the cst 40c on 60w is way to thick on cold starts and thats where the majority of wear occurs its very bad .. as far as 100c cst ( normal operating temp visc redline 5w 50 is about 21 vs castrol 10w60 22 .. so you tell me whats better !
@@jayd1008 I’ll stick to M divisions recommendations plus I don’t use it during the winter or during cold weather tbh. 😎👍
@@groupb5420 so you dont start your car during winter months ? you must live in a warm climate then ... BTW there arent many 10w60 oil options and castrol 10w60 supercar oil is garbage on VOA very little additive package compared to Redline .. Redline does offer a 10w60 however it is way to thick ! 5w50 by redline is the perfect oil for this car famous s85 engine builder Troy jeup recommends this oil in s85 .
Love the M5's! That v10 sounds superb especially with aftermarket exhaust.
Oil change on time no problems smg service no problems and that's it man
Used to own an 09 M5.
My wallet still slaps me every morning for owning one, got rid of it 3yrs ago but my wallet hasn't forgiven me yet.
Also the Accord, 6 and Altima seem to have copied the footprint of this 5 series dash layout.
Do you regret buying and driving it or would you say 'worth it'?
@Trevon Adams Well, my Wallet still suffers from the Camaro i bought but i miss every minute driving it. Unfortunately it was not a cheap car for a 22 year old in germany...
Which 6? Mazda6?
@@HandH3ro
It was worth it and fun when it ran lol. Don't regret owning it but it was taking away to much money lol.
@@nguyenmike5054 yeah the mazda 6
I own a e60 m5 2008 with 98000 kilometers on it. The car is so smooth and fast, and with the v10 under the hood and meisterchaft muffler at the end makes tis car so special. Here in Norway a lot of them is sleeping in the garage, I am using mine every day ( but not in the winter) the only negative about the car is the fuel but it doesnt matter at the end of the day because of the joy the car gives you. I have put down 3-4000 kilometers since I bought it ( bought it in 2019 summer ) and the only issue I had was the thermostat ( those thermostat on this cars is getting bad when they are close to 100000km so mine was open and the car started to idle 900rpm when waiting for the red light) and the trunk modul not working after the wires cut off.
9:24 Here for this?
I bought a 2008 with 100k miles on it a year ago for 16 grand from the shadiest looking car dealer you ever saw. So far I haven’t had any major issues and have only had to perform routine maintenance. In my opinion you won’t find a finer sports car with this kind of performance for the price point offered. Is there a potential for high maintenance costs? Sure. But the car is paid off and that means I can afford the maintenance. That being said, do your research and maintain the car yourself as much as possible and it will treat you right.
TougeSpirit33 Send the oil for testing at Blackstone Labs to know what your rob bearing condition is at.
I found a 2006 m5 on Facebook marketplace for 5k, should I Buy it?
It's already a classic
Nice video . You forget to mention the unlimited top end of 207 mph which was untouched for years to come ....
It’s still untouched lol 😂 even m5 cs can’t do that
Hi Matt. Nice vid. Liked b4 watching because i knew it was goin to b good
Future Classic, these will be E30 M3 Money 1 Day! This is the best M Car Ever Built!
I think most people can agree that this E60 M5 is one of the best, if not the best, M5 ever created ~ It's up there~
I know many owners that traded their E39's back in the day for this SMG/V10. Within 35k miles, the overwhelming sentiment was they were very sorry they traded.
Owned an 09 m5 for 3 months in 2017.
My relationship with my wallet never recovered.
@@samlung2724 please shut the fuck up about your wallet your annoying as hell about that shjt
As a previous owner of a 200 dollar e39 m5 I agree because I know e39 owners who changed to the v10 m5 and have problems my wallet still never recovered lol
Benjamin Mathew it was actually very reliable! I loved it! Surprisingly it was easy for me to drive in snow. Probably because I had different wheels on it the only thing I hated about it is after I hit 240k miles the dashboard pixels were fucking up but it was an easy fix. Otherwise it was quite reliable. My uncle owns it now it’s on its way to 300k miles!
I almost bought this car for my dad few years ago, the base version. Still love the clean look and design.
Wdym a base version like a 530i?
@@jusvibin2190 yes
3:13 14k miles only! am I seeing this right? That's amazing. Hardly driven if that's the case.
Matt, FYI, the transmission isn't a dual clutch. It's a single clutch system. That is why the shifts are so unrefined.
I think he knows that but was just working through filming/talking; could see an easy slip up
Awesome car.... there 10-20k now but they will need that in repairs lol . You know I can see Matt short shifting it ..... let it roll all the way to 8k and shift in M mode it’s like nothing else .
Future classic ? Won’t all of them blow up before soon?
As an ex owner, they will unless you never drive it.
Just do the rod bearings
There actually great cars
@Gorgon Phone like a iphone huh
If their numbers are low that makes them rarer, no?
Awesome! Great video Matt! Thank you! The E60 is an icon and would love to have it someday for my collection
Backroad at 9:22
Well it's good it didn't break while you reviewed it
You mention the 0-60 time on the E60 and compare it to the E39. 0-60 isn't where the E60 shines. It's how hard it pulls when you put your foot down at 80+mph. It will put bus lengths on the E39 on a roll race and will do over 200mph when you take the limiter off.
3:14 wouldn't be a proper BMW without the engine service light on lol
LOL, as the owner of a ‘99 BMW Z3 this is sadly true. It seems to be on even when there is nothing wrong with the car
Matt e39 or E60 now that you've driven them back to back? I agree e60 is just the right size before everything got boated. I hunted long and hard for the poor man 's version of this as a 3 year CPO in a last year 2010 e60 535i with the N54 Turbo and factory MSport package. That gives you the M5 style bodykit, interior, alcantara headliner and 18 m5 style wheels on square setup. Really fun, incredible/telepathic handling (once you ditch the runflats) and very reliable for a BMW. Gets 22mpg in ugly commute traffic but 30 highway. Yes repairs are a bit cringeworthy (electric water pump?!) like any modern bimmer with all the plastic but the motor and trans are rock solid. Find a good one that's been well serviced and not modded while they are the bottom of the depreciation curve! If you have the guts and deep pockets the e60 M5 manual is really something else and that engine sounds simply amazing. All that being said I would take an e39 M5 instead today all day long!
They're both a lot of fun, but I personally get more excited by the E60's V10. I'd never own either generation though. My problematic Mini turned me off to owning used German stuff. I know some are worse than others, just not my cup of tea.
This video is a bit old now I know but needs couple of corrections: 1) SMG shift is not slow (65 milliseconds) when you disable TC and select the (hidden) 6th aggression setting, and 2) 0-to-60 is 4.2sec for us with Euro spec SMG SW because we get 4,100RPM LC, instead of USA spec which I think is only 1,500... IIRC.
Same LC for Canada as euro ???
It’s too complicated and too old and too unreliable, take from one very unhappy but typical owner. No expense spared on maintenance yet it still fails. Avoid.
The fact that the service engine light is on is hilarious. These cars are nightmares unless you don't mind thousands in maintenance
The car is not on, it’s standard to light up before ignition turn on, your are definitely one of the people who never drove one to understand what it is
Lol, another one that just regurgitates trash that others talk in an attempt to sound smart and informed….
I owned an e63 m6 2008 manual transmission. owned it for 2 years and not one time did it cost me money other than an oil changes LOL.
Was so excited when I saw this on my page. And then of course almost threw up when Matt revealed that it's a fucking SMG
Best M5 BMW has made, the last good M5
Devonte Murray Also their best selling M5 of all time.
my bro had the m6 with a stick and used to almost bliss out talking abt the engine,its sound and revs and that pull.. I never had a chance to see it as he was on one coast and I on the other and he sold it b4 I got around to visiting him...he said it was a beast that also revved to high heaven...He also had an aftermarket exhaust on his..
I Did get to hear vids of it and it was skin crawling good
Do a review on a 2010 Yaris hatchback!
I'm not sure how many people would be into that haha. I really liked the Scion iM I reviewed a few years ago though.
Is the SMG a nuisance? And has the owner has any problems with it so far? Heard that they're a great pain in the butt when they get old :p
The SMG is high maintenance indeed sir
The owner hasn't had any problems with this one, but it only has about 14,000 miles on it.
We have had our E60 since new and 91k miles and the SMG has been perfect. Only needed 2 sensors at 75k. Besides that. Nothing.
I just blew out my clutch at 88k miles in my m6. I beat the crap out of the car so I can’t say it’s the cars fault. Other than that very minimal issues with it. An incredible value for the money
I’ve had my 06 M5 for the past 8 years and now up to 70k miles. Only thing I’ve done to the smg is flush the fluid and replace the clutch position sensor which I did myself in my driveway with a $450 replacement part and ran the adaptation software with a cheap foxwell scan tool.
I don't like BMW much unless an exception, my crush is 2010 BMW M6 V10 Howler..oh man that car was and will be a gem..
Is it the same V10 which was in 2010 BMW M6??
Ckryse S yeah the s85 (V10) we’re both in the e60 m5 and 2nd gen m6 (E63)
I’m trying to get. 2006 bmw m5 what should I look for when checking one out
This looks like you recorded this over the summer in Colorado. Lived there for 10 years and it looks familiar!
Red Ferrari or something back there in that garage. See it after the 2 minute mark. Probably reviewed all of them since he did the other one
Lots more reviews from this collection to come over the next several Wednesdays! :)
You should review a 1M !!
I'd love to if someone offers one!
@@MattMaranMotoring it be an honor if one day you could drive my e46 ZHP!
Matt Maran Motoring I love how that car looks and I bet it handles so good since it has e9x m3 suspensión components and steering components
I also own one of these! ..... On Forza of course lol that V10 is a GEM.
Lol!
The sound of yesterday
When I saw this m5 for the first time in around 2006-2007 I fell in love and told my self I would buy one in the future. Even now I still love it and can buy one, however reliability scares me since this was one of the most unreliable M cars. I wouldn’t be able to afford to take it to bmw and pay thousands if something goes wrong.
Get the manual and get the engine rods replaced and voila you have a lovely saloon
I just bought a manual one which gets rid of all the smg issues. They arent as bad as people say as long as you switch out the oil to 5W50 and get a new thermostat.
EagleEyes11497 The oil is believed to be the issue. Specifically in colder climates, where the oil was too thick for use.
@@EagleEyes11497 damn I wouldnt mind getting one also what color combo did you get
If you take this car to BMW for service you’re a sucker and deserve to get fucked in every direction. There are plenty of capable indy shops out there that will diagnose problems and replace minor parts rather than replacing an entire system due to a sensor fault.
I own e64 m6, not many issues other than the throttle actuators for past 4 years :)
Let me know if anyone knows any other proper sports car with v10 and with less problems lol
6 dislike = AMG owners
Matt, where do you live? Just curious where the videos are made.
I live in Pittsburgh but I film videos all over the country. Like in this video I say how I'm filming in Colorado. I do lots of press trips as well and they're all over the place.
Most surprising thing to see is 17 mpg in a v10 lmao
This is a good car if you hate your money.
Gotta spend your money on something don’t you? Might as well spend it on something that makes you smile.
I love my e63 m6 i love driving it it puts a smile on my face every time i drive it these cars were meant to be driven they get sick if not driven
My favorite M car
I got an e63 m6 with original 6spd manual, did the bearings, gave it a custom valvetronic exhaust, and will keep everything else stock.
9:23
the paint and I'm sure its been fully corrected, etc.. is unbelievable
so who is the nutter thats been dumping money in it for repairs
We can pretty much conclude that this is the most desirable car not to buy. If the price of these E60’s stays reasonable in the used car market then I’d say that if you LOVE cars, more specifically you’re REALLY into BMW’s AND you have a well paying job with relatively minimal obligations in the way of monthly bills then I’d say that the E60 M5 would suit you, of course you definitely want to be well versed on this generation of M5, know what to look for and most importantly know what to EXPECT. Because if you’re not careful you can lose the engine and that’s a $40k unit so there’s no going back. One must perform preventative maintenance on the E60’s in order to avoid falling into that hole.
You can buy a stroked 6.0L, 600hp, fully built S85 from Troy Jeup for less than $20k installed.
M5 or nothing
I own one 2006 smg w 118xx miles no problems
Does not have the active seats. My 2006 M5 also has bluetooth. NEVER drive the SMG in auto, it sucks.
Review a 2019 Ford Edge
Maaaaaaaatt brings it twice in a row! I wish the E60 wasn't such a basket case though.
Man, that’s one slow shifting SMG…
My guess is he didnt have it sped up to its fastest speed.... Because mine never shifted that slow. Ever.
randy25rhoads that’s what I was thinking
Nike from autovlog has a manual one that looks just like that
all the old keyboard warriors from the 2000’s decrying E60s for having Bangle butt seem so far away now.
I love it from day one, but i wasnt a diehard bmw fan.
9:22
Man, that SMG was shifting MEGA SLOW during that full throttle run. I think a normal hydraulic transmission would have done better.
It's actually a single clutch and not a dual clutch which shifts like a true manual, that's why it's slow.
717 flyer it’s also slow because he didn’t have the drivelogic on its highest setting.
A manual e60 m5 will always be the greatest m5 of all time
Autovlog has one
Missing that 7th gear from the SMG really limits the potential of the S85.
iPhoneAppReviewer nope it won’t. 6 gears in the s85 makes for better torque delivery due to lesser gears resulting in better torque multiplication when you shift
Tony H better torque delivery from an engine already low on torque to begin with, not really a huge benefit considering you won’t get over 200mph with the 6 speed.
iPhoneAppReviewer lol no you have no idea what you are talking about. If you use the flywheel and clutch from the SMG M5 and mate it to a manual gearbox from a e9x m3, the manual’s speed limit remains the same as the SMG. And plus the clutch and flywheel of the smg m3 mates perfectly to the e9x manual gearbox. You can remove the speed limiter on both the smg and manual and it can make speeds up to 360kmh. How would I know about this? Because my friend previously owned the ONLY manual e60 m5 in Australia. There was no manual e60 m5s produced for the European and australian markets.
Plus I much rather feeling the raw and mechanical driving experience of a manual high revving tingling down your spine howling v10 than an automatic v10. I have a 2017 f80 m3 DCT as a daily driver running on catless downpipes, e85 custom tune, m performance exhaust, csf top mount intercooler and bmc intake filters. It’s runs mid to high 10s down the quarter consistently.
I was choosing between getting a e60 m5 and then manual swapping it with a e9x m3 manual wrecked car but found out it was too much effort. So I got myself a 2010 Audi R8 v10 in manual with apr custom tune, fabspeed exhaust, Reid intakes and a sprintbox. Planning to put more mods on it especially in brakes and suspension so I can take it to the track and make it a pure track car
There’s no better feeling than rowing the gears of a high revving exotic sounding v10!
hey matt. send me some bumper stickers of your brand and i’ll put it on my WRX
I don't have bumper stickers unfortunately! I do have smaller stickers on my Teespring site though if you're interested (link in description).
That transmission is so dated wow
Spotlight Exotic unfortunately no manual in europe...
When it came out it was the fastest shifting sequential manual transmission on the market. It put the Ferrari F1 and Lambo E-gear transmissions to shame.
Doug Demuro has children huh
Come to Ohio some day! You can review a F90 M5 comp that is getting the Noelle tune next Tuesday. They're claiming 850hp at the motor which is probably optimistic but itll definitely be more than 617
Wow, sounds crazy! Please send me an email and if I'm in that part of Ohio I can try to work something out!
@@MattMaranMotoring Will do it's in Northwest Ohio, south of Toledo. I can send you a few pictures of the car as well. What's your email?
@@L8-APEX mattmaranmotoring@gmail.com
Mine broke down years ago
Rip lol sucks BMW didn't build the engine right
@@IamJay02 fun to drive. Just wish they were reliable lol
@@JibronLames Oh no doubt they're fun to drive I would absolutely love to drive one but I'd never want to own one
@@IamJay02 thats probably true of Any bmw...sadly.... its nice to lease or take for a drive but owning it is another story...heaven help u if u buy an old one with over 100,000mi on it.
moneypits with wheels
I'm curious...if buying this car and u buy a warranty on it...how much would it be?
@@MrXerxes thx for the info! I was thinking of buying one but if I cant get a warranty on it I'll pass!
Your warranty is a computer with INPA, your two hands, and a set of torx sockets.
Great video, although the earlier models only came in smg later models with the 3 pedals will go up in value. These cars require warm up, people who are willing to maintain a vehicle of this caliber, and oil changes. I’ve got 38k on my car, warm it up, get on the highway and have fun. It’s hysterical how many people talk about this car as if they ever owned one. Btw I also had an e30 m3 and a e34 m5. They all cost money to maintain.
Matt use the launch control!!!
Bought my e60 6 speed m5 nine years ago at about 20,000 miles. Today at 168,000+ miles of baby hauling, track days, and airstrips. Hard to beat my 6 speed v10 in a tunnel: ua-cam.com/video/nTLQ3K_GR4M/v-deo.html
LOL at the unreliable comments from BALLERS on beer budgets and caviar dreams. Lots of these cars where driven hard and put away wet by owners that couldn't really afford ownership. Not many high revving v10s from Porsche, Lamborghini, or LFA could make it past 30,000 miles without extensive maintenance/money. The clapped out examples make for internet lore, while the best examples rarely trade hands.
Nothing like chasing down a 964 on slicks with a 4 door grocery getter on street tires: ua-cam.com/video/ufylSYwaJuM/v-deo.html
Watch me doing uber on the M5! Resonator delete means tips lol
I'd manual swap it though.
surprised that one still runs
I was thinking to buy this for my first car
That year m5 are notorious for rod bearing failures
All the E60 M5s and M3s from that time have the same issue, BMW oil recommendations. Many just consider it a maintenance item.
I’m more interested in the E39 M5 in the background. As far as I’m concerned, the E39 was the last, great M5.
I reviewed it last week! ua-cam.com/video/acuZxRKUZk4/v-deo.html
thats it? doesn't seem like a very exciting car
New design was a little ahead of its time back in 06'
Too bad these cars are unreliable. Gotta be a BMW diehard for ownership.
Happy New Year and good luck with the channel in 2020! This is a nice start to the year...
Thanks! Happy New Year!
These are *NOT* future classics, just a lot of lore.