BMW E60 M5 V-10 Review - Worth the Anxiety? - Test Drive | Everyday Driver
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2020
- The BMW E60 M5 is legendary because of its high revving V-10 engine. But also for its pricey maintenance. As our Big Sedan Challenge winds down, we climbed into a viewer's M5 for a test drive on a great road. Join us for real time discussion of maintenance, reliability, and if this car is worth the risk.
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125K+ miles on my 6-speed E60 M5. Just drove cross country West to East and South to North this COVID season. Could not have asked for a better car to accompany a once-in-a-lifetime experience. If you're not afraid of turning some wrenches, don't let keyboard-warriors steer you away from one of the best cars Bavaria has graced the world with.
buying one next month
138K+ on mine, just went from FL to IL no issues. E60 M5 SMG - I've said for years; there's a reason preventative maintenance is called preventative maintenance.
The best ever description of S85 & V-10 M5 I have ever read on UA-cam!!
Really missed the point here I think. Owned my E60 M5 SMG for 6 years and in total its cost me about 5k in maintenance. No warranty or anything. Keep on top of the servicing, don't abuse the gearbox and get the rod bearings changed. Make the switch to 5w50 oil and a Viper thermostat and you have little to no issues.
!!!! I just bought one with low miles and I trst it with absolute care the car fax is on point since first purchase and the owner before me was very meticulous I may be even more these cars are awesome and I'm honest not worried about the maintenance I have made the switch to 5w50 already but haven't a viper thermo yet didn't know about that 41k miles 2006
@@tylercouture216 instagram.com/p/BppXgfdABmO/?igshid=82e46m14px7u
Go here for the info on the thermostat. Makes a massive difference to running and actually lets the oil get up to correct temperature.
@@frasersmith5 got it ordered thanks
Iv also had mine for 7 years now done 15k and only now had to change the throttle Actuator, and having rod bearings done. But divide the cost up over 7 years and its not that much
Thanks for the tip Fraser. Getting one soon and your advise gives me some extra confidence on the purchase.
Regular maintenance
Warm up the car properly before thrashing it and she'll treat you well.
@Nonya Business why not yikes might need to change up my method immediately????
@@tylercouture216 So the best practice is to let the rpm's idle down, then you should drive the car 3-4k rmp max untill the temp is where it should be (temp gauges splits down the middle)
Look, I've owned this same car for 6 years (ironically in white too) and the SMG (although un-reliable) is still the way to go. It is really fun, especially with the blips on the down shifts. I do all my own work, and have kept this thing going and now have 100k miles on it. Last owner dogged it, and I brought it back to life. If maintained, one of the best cars ever made!
the e60 platform in general is very underrated/valued
People need to enjoy this absolute legendary beast for what it is - a F1 derived 5l high revving V10!! It is NOT a Toyota. Show me any other high revving exotic sounding V10 that has got to 100k miles without maintenance/issues from any manufacturer.
Feel like people have to talk about the negatives on what is essentially the only true 4 door supercar ever made when you can pick these up for next to nothing considering the amazing driving experience you get.
I genuinely love mine and prefer it all day overall for pure excitement and driving bliss over both my M5 Competition and M4 Competition. No contest V10 is V10 but you have to pay to play.
LFA
@@marq333 There's an LFA with 100K+ miles that had no maintenance/issues?
@Rubedo Alaberti I'm saying show me a manufacturer that has produced a high revving V10 that has consistently exceeded 100k miles that had no maintenance/general issues. There aren't any yet there are plenty of E60 M5s who have had 100k miles on original clutches, bearings etc which for a car like that is incredible along with the lower price factor of any other V10.
@Rubedo Alaberti 10000% agreed 👍
I absolutely love mine love it!!!!! Please watch my videos so we can talk about them more as fellow e60 m5 owners
I own this year M5 with a real 3-pedal 6-speed manual and it's a different car entirely. As for power bolsters, it's a menu option. Turn it off if it bothers you. Easy. Great video! Thanks!
Lucky man! Enjoy!
TheBlackDeath3 not a fan of the active bolster because I like the seat bolsters hugging me. I set my bolsters permanently closed while driving. I think they're great.. they're super comfortable and you get the benefits of a bucket seat with the ease of entry and departure of a regular seat.
@@NathanKopilec Exactly! It's a novel idea, and if I was tracking it, I might consider using them, but generally, I don't need a hug :-).
I heard someone dct swapped one
@@anthonymolina7416 That is about a $15K option and very few people know how to flash the computers and the rear differential and speedometer has to be changed and reprogrammed also, respectively.
Of course it will need some love all super cars do! I love the hate these cars get. I'm absolutely satisfied with mine . Haters going to hate.
I bought a 6spd one of these with an extended warranty as well, and it saved me with a wiring issue that was caused by a rat nibbling on the harness (shh don't tell the warranty company 😉) anyway besides that and the obligatory 100k mile rod bearings, mine's been drop dead reliable! 21k miles in a year and a bit, 114k miles on the clock and it's a dream every day.
I just bought one a month ago 41k miles I tried to find one that was a LCI but couldn't find one with low miles I bought one a 2006 and oh my lord I love this car I have videos on it and because i know I love watching cars so a e60 m5 is a lovely car people stop me everywhere I go and compliment me all the time this car requires every bit of your attention and input while driving and that is exactly what I wanted every drive is a event I drove mine from Arizona back to Atlanta GA btw
3 years later how we rockin ?
@StillBrokeOff don't have anymore but still a great car
@@tylercouture216 checked ya vids , why did u sell and if you dont mind what type of purchase did u have setup and did you get warranty im looking to get one
@StillBrokeOff I only searched for ones that were meticulously taking care of they were all trouble free. no maintenence issues. you should definitely get one you will become a snob in a good way over the platform
I have been racing for almost 30 years in all sorts of stuff and some big tracks and yes, I am ashamed to say the fastest I have ever driven was on a highway in one of these. The car just flies once you get into the triple digits. In hunkers down more and more and pulls effortlessly. While I didn’t quite get there this is a 200 mph sedan.
Iv had my E60 M5 for 7 years and love it, it never fails to put a smile 😃 on my face. Just treat it like a baby
long time no see these two guys. hands down the best reviewers and the best thing is they brainstorm and confront each other, which is much better than someone alone doing monologue
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More amazing content. What I learned is get the Carmax Warranty lol.
Carmax wont warranty this car
EagleEyes11497 awww damm, why ? really ?
@@4-matic212 Carmax won't sell cars older than 10 years. The last MY for E60 was 2010, where it sold in few numbers. Nevertheless, always keep looking at their web site. Also keep an eye out for the M6
Or an F10
2 favorite M5 E60 & F90
Nice review, and really nice car. I have a similar one. I've owned it for 4 years and my story is similar, it's not had many big bills but it has been maintenance way above what BMW say.
I honestly wouldn't want a manual version, the SMG gearbox is of it's time, and I quite like the ferociousness of the gearbox when you want it, but you get use to it and smoth it out.
Another good review... and right on the money. I have E60 anxiety with my 2006.... but everything is fine (for now) - Thanks to the owner for lending you the car to review with!
Delightful Video!
Thanks to the listener who lent it for the shoot
I love my m5 ! It’s worth every penny I’ve paid for it and spent on it!
Uwww I saw your video! Your cars is freaking sexy!
How many miles on yours and what year
@@tylercouture216 I bought it with 35k miles and a 2009!
Great car, questionable review. You should have done a review of the car without playing up the 'anticipated anxiety, because everyone says that the car will self destruct at any moment, with no warning'. You hampered your potential enjoyment before you started. Your constant discussion of the active seat bolsters became tiring, especially since it is an option that you can disable and then not be bothered by it. The seats are great, very supportive and comfortable. You have the option of allowing the tech to adjust the seats, or just leave them where you like it.
The SMG transmission seems perfectly mated to the engine, with the 7 speed ratios drawing out the best potential of the v10. Although I haven't driven the 6 speed manual version, I've heard that the difference in gearing vs the 7 speed leaves it lacking (slightly). You should not drive the SMG version in automatic mode. Leave it in manual shifting mode and drive it like a manual (except for the non-existent clutch pedal). Lift slightly off the throttle and move the lever (or use the paddle shift), then back on the throttle. Set shift speed to highest setting and driving like this will give a driving experience just like a 3-pedal manual. I will agree, the 500 hp mode should be the default (or configurable as the startup ) mode.
Your review was entertaining, at first. It is always good to see this car reviewed, but the constant complaining about the SMG and 'reliability issues' are tiresome. People need to just experience it without the incoming negative bias, so they can get used to how it responds and then push it to it's limits, if you dare. Don't just get in and beat the crap out of it (many cars will break under those conditions). Experience the car with a positive outlook from the start and you will really come to appreciate what it is capable of.
Amen. It's an F1 derived high revving V10 and needs maintenance to keep it going to 100K plus miles? Well duh! Show me another exotic V10 lasting that long without maintenance or zero issues.
E60 M5 is an absolute legend and easily the greatest super saloon car ever made.
This comment is literally what was on my mind as I was watching this useless review of a legendary car.
The active bolstering moan had no place in this review
I couldn't have said it my self I bought one with 41k miles on it and I have no anxiety the constant complaining and reliability that people like to play off of it's what made me buy the car the SMG is perfectly fine when you are not driving Spiritedly it is a good practice to just ever so slightly ease the shifting is butter smooth if so if you are on it I don't suggest letts off the gas at all while shifting anyway this is the best car purchase I have made and I was very meticulous about which one I bought service meeting the owner everything
@@ArtG32 Well, if you know all of this, buy one and write your own revue.
Thanks you guys you helped my case, that BMW V10 will be a collectors car and the price will jump through the roof!
Great video. As a former M6 owner with the same engine I have to stay you were spot on about everything.
How did I not know about this channel I have been a subscriber to everyday driver since the first video love the channel now I got 2 channels to watch the videos over and over love the content
Glad to have you join us here as well. Lots more content coming to both channels. Thanks for watching!
I think its about time the E60 M5 is classified as a cul de sac car just like the Elise and the 1M
Been watching your other channel for about 5 or so years and been listening to your podcast about a year now. Only subscribed to this channel today haha
Glad to have you with us, thank you!
Great review 👌🏽 One of my all time favourite bucket list cars. Will always make sure it has the BMW extended warranty before buying. Looks clean in white too 👍🏽
A few years ago I drove a subscribers V10 M5 and I fell in love. It was a white SMG just like this one. Would love to drive the manual. It’s a bigger, heavier car than the E39 M5 and drivers better on the highway and sweeping turns, not nimble for tight turns. I don’t like the seat bolstering, it’s like a punch to the kidneys in the corners but you can shut that feature off. My viewer has owned it for years and bought it as a BMW CPO, he put 50,000 miles and it was very reliable. He replaced the rod bearings at about 70k miles. I still want one. Once you hear the sound. Of that V10, you will be hooked
Come drive mine in Seattle. 105k miles 6mt owned since new and maintained meticulously.
I have an E60 528i and I love it. It's a looker till this very day
Great video guys! There are some S-Class MBs with the touchy feely bolsters lol
Pretty much sums up how I feel about my LCI updated 2006 M5 with 99k (58k on the motor).
I bought a Land Cruiser 100 series for bad weather days and to transport me when the beast needs some mechanical loving.
I do the extra maintenance and save for unexpected events but there is some anxiety about what check engine code may come up next. Even with preventative rod bearing changes and high dollar parts replacements, It’s far less money than buying a new M5 and the E60 was the pinnacle IMHO.
I love the quirky nature of the SMG (Euro tuned programming) and learning to dance with her is a challenge I enjoy.
All worth the risk to me. This car is a one of a kind and becoming more rare by the day as the ones bought for $11,000 and not maintained keep blowing their motors.
Oh, and just turn off the side bolsters and no one sells a warranty for these cars anymore.
I have a 2008 6-Speed Manual with 106,500 on the odometer. I only put about 6,500 miles since I bought it back in 2017. This car is amazing to drive. But before buying this, I did all of my homework and set aside some money for maintenance. I did replace the Rod bearings, Throttle Actuators, and Engine Mounts. I'm going to change out the Idle Actuators soon. I do all the maintenance myself to save some money. This is my weekend car hence the low mileages.
Great video! Now can you get your hands on the V10 M6... I bought mine 3 months ago with 65k miles an automatically did throttle body actuators.. and right now it's getting rod bearings with engine and trans tuning
I have owned my 2007 M6 e64 since new. Biggest problem I have ever had was a faulty voltage regulator (intermittent), which resulted in the dealer chasing codes for $7k in sensor replacements and other parts until I told him "It sounds like a voltage regulator problem to my old gearhead mind (muscle car era)". I bought a scanner and have never been back to a dealer again. I would rather buy tools for the labor costs and avoid the scam.
P.S. I have driven this car from Dallas to Scottsdale and back, to Memphis, New Orleans, etc, etc, etc and it has been reliable. I have 66k miles 17 years later.
This sounds like my kind of car!... minus the expenses
This is one of the best car you could ever own
I believe the V10 here (S85) was justified because it shared platform with the M3's V8 (S65) - they had the same bore and stroke, compression ratio, and tons and tons of other stuff in common, and some interesting differences as well. If you think about it there isn't actually that much at play in many ways - you've got 2 more spark plugs but you've got the same number of cams, vanos systems, accessories, etc. so in a lot of ways this shouldn't be more expensive then maintaining an M3 of the same vintage except of course for all the ways that it is. It seems like the dealership will charge an arm and a leg and to some it might be worth it but alternative solutions to many problems exist if you're clever. For example the failure point on the ~$700/side throttle body actuators seems to most often be the plastic gears - a kit to replace just these gears will set you back less than $120. Some repairs will likely be unavoidably expensive but I think its kind of unfair how people seem to compare the cheap initial cost of these used with upkeep. It's a v10 sedan that was 6 figures new, from the reports I've read people using indy shops and diy fixes when they can are paying what seems like petty cash to me to own an 8000+rpm V10 that lives inside a practical full sized sedan. Definitely on my list of cars to own before I die.
Great video...I own a 07 with the SMG. Yes maintenance is key to owning this vehicle, even one that's in great shape. As it relates to the smg trans...the smg is better suited to the V10, and is actually a faster car to drive than the manual. Once you learn, yes learn how to drive the smg, its actually not that bad. I've owned an 2011 M3 sedan with the dct and comp package...and the dct is better but does have its own quirks too. Word of advice...when one coil pack goes, replace all of them!!!
I have a 06 smg with 41k miles now 43k after drive it back from Arizona to Georgia videos of it on my page would love to talk more about them
I'm glad my BMW is an E28, it's a brilliant car to own used.
Im a proud owner of a M6 V10, bought it low mileage with no warranty. I've had a great experience with the car for 3 years. 6k oil changes, read how to utilize the smg or if you have the manual even better, change rod bearings which are 1500 with labor in most shops and you will be having a blast. I think unreliability is overrated, my c6 corvette gave me much more headaches to be true. The M6 is a comfortable, luxurious, safe, 4 people, big trunk its quite a package. The V10 is one of the nicest sounding engines ever made and truly this is the way I visualize why you buy any car, what to you pay for what do you get bang for the buck. You can purchase a well taken care m6 for 25k, literally buy it spend 5k on preventive maintainance on it total 30k and it will run for many years for the price of a brand new honda civic.
This was truly the best road to take this car on. I think this is peak BMW. With the manual of course. It's such a well dialed-in car. From the response of the engine, the steering, the brakes, and the handling. I had a chance to drive one back to back with an F10 M5. The F10 feels so much more massive, the steering's weirdly heavy and numb, the brakes are not as good, and it's ponderous at the limit because of how easily it goes from understeer to lighting up the rear tires. The F10 feels like they threw a powerful engine (too powerful) at the car and everything else was an afterthought. The E60 feels like a cohesive package. The engine's so incredible in the E60. The only part where the F10 is better is the DCT. It's an incredible transmission compared to the SMG.
Very helpful info because I’m looking at the E60 and the F10.
There are 10 throttle bodies but only 2 actuators , the engine was tuned to the 7 speed smg and the 6 speed while cool is not geared to get the most out of the engine it is attached to
Yeah, and I think the 6 speed was taken from the regular 5 series or the e39 m5. I also heard the LCI models had less vanos issues, unlike the 06 ones.
Correct - only 2 actuators to replace but it is almost $2500 per side and when one goes out they say replace both. That and the rod bearings together get you very close to $10k - luckily actuators went out at 85k miles and rod bearings only serviced every 100k miles
Such a beautiful car
Have a trusted Indy mechanic and get your own parts, you will be fine. This is a masterpiece of a car and engine.
The way to make the SMG a little bit better is the Burkhart Engineering oil and pump electric motor upgrade.
Nice video/information. I am considering purchasing one in the next 3 months. I am just so nervous because of the maintenance horror stories, however,I guess I should purchasr through Carmax with a warranty huh?
Gearbox is brilliant.... If you know what to expect and use it properly. Think of it like a manual, reset the clutch adaptation and ALWAYS use manual mode. It is buttery smooth or brutally violent depending on the setting.
It is also one of if not THE reason for its reputation for being h reliable and expensive to maintain.
The E60 m5 is actually a reliable car, take a couple things in mind, the V10 engine in this car is race derived from F1, this car brand new was little over 100k so don't expect to things to be cheap on this car. many maintenance parts for the E60 m5 have been revised and modified by bmw to solve many issues the earlier models had under warranty the majority of the cars has this done
The delay in SMG is similar to manually shifting (because that's what is happening technically) which everyone agrees is the enthusiast pinnacle. To hate one is to hate the other imo.
The delay is honestly not as big as ppl make it to i drive it in 5 and not really 6 but I do use it the more in tune with the car you are the better it drives
So you get the delay without the involvement of using a clutch pedal or shifting an h-pattern.
I respectfully disagree. I see your theory but it does not take into consideration the quality of the SMG box. No one ever says that my rowing my own gears is jerky at low speeds or that my fast shifts feel like something is slamming into the back of their seat. Most reviews talk about how bad the transmission is. If you read reviews of manual transmission versions you hear none of that. The 6 spd is definitely a bit slower but so much more fun. Plus, most of the reputation for unreliability comes from the SMG. Yes, maintenance is expensive regardless, but I have never been stranded by mine in 105k miles but that’s bc the 6spd does not fail like SMG. And resale is better and will continue to grow with the 6 spd.
Curious, what mics do you guys use?
one of me dreams cars, whatever money i would ever have... that V10, man... that V10...
Sold mine 2008 with 143k, I put on 75k in three years, changed TBs and Oil Cooler. Everything else was just oil and tires. Original RBs, no metal deposits. Cars are good, just drive it, don’t let it sit too long.
Our M5 now is getting its rod bearings changed, gladly insurance is answering for it. Rod bearings are still in alright condition, it’s a very pristine condition only 60k kms. It’s definitely one of a kind.
Nonya Business mechanical warranty insurance
Why did they service rod bearings under warranty when they are only serviced every 100k miles?
@@danfitzpatrick5054 it’s a 3rd party mechanical insurance, I just asked my mechanic if it would be covered. He asked them, suddenly the insurance company said they will cover it if it’s a valid claim but I can’t move the car anymore otherwise all engine claims will be void. So I told the mechanic open it since I will eventually do it anyway and I want to use the car, I will pay him if insurance declines it. Gladly it turned out there is already some abnormal wear, the insurance couldn’t get out of it. They did fork out, so it turned to be ok. Wasn’t planning to do it at 60k kms was think around 80k kms but glad the insurance hostage situation turned out in our favor I didn’t have to pay most for the job. We still have the M5 and it still hasn’t reached 70k kms 😅
Nice review and mostly fair.
M5 has some issues, but most can be easily addressed by a person with engine knowledge and all the resources available from the internet.
Please also do more research when adding to the "negatives". Yes the S85 has 10 throttle bodies, one per cylinder as ALL M-car/S-engines have had until recently, but only two throttle actuators. Many complain about rod bearings......same issue is being found on older and newer BMW's......it a shame, but again, the S85 is an F-1 dervied racing engine that revs high. I, personally, am willing to accept to get the music produced by this series.
I purchased the manual b/c I truely love the 3rd pedal, but even the SMG is not as bad as rated by the internet.
Maintance is KING on these cars.
Mr. P
Hope you have a deep wallet
Has not Broke My Wallet yet.....lol. I love it and with good DIY is the best value I know. It is a true SUPER sedan.
The SMG I drove shifted like a 7-year-old who couldn't reach the pedals.
Imagine what BMW cars would look like now if they’d followed the Bangle era through... probably a hell of a lot more progressive and graceful.
my thought on the matter is, take care of your cars and they will take care of you. no matter how pedestrian the car. People gave gotten used to application cars that can be abused with improper maintenance routines and apply that to cars like the M5 where you HAVE to let it warm up etc etc
Excellent point. So many people view cars as appliances and miss out on great cars that require an involved owner. Thanks for watching!
smg in S6 mode is the equivalent of "no lift shift" X100
LOL... Todd's hair at 4:23
It's a fantastic reference of cornering forces!
I hope people keep bashing this car so no one buys it and it’s not a common car on the road. It’ll keep mine unique. I don’t daily drive mine, I have a beater car for point A-to-B weekday driving, and I put away around $4-5k a year if anything goes wrong with the M5. Always make sure the oil temp reaches 210F before going beyond 6k rpm and perform oil changes every 3-4k miles. It’s a $100k ‘exotic’ V10 engine that beats F430s on the highway so if you’re expecting cheap maintenance, I’d say that’s your own predisposed fault to buy one at severely depreciated prices without expecting to put some money into a F1-derived engine.
I was scared shitless when I bought mine... but I knew the previous owner took care of it.... had a new engine with only 20k on it.... I love it.....The manual has wrong gear ratios for the v-10... NEVER drive the SMG in Auto... always manual mode shits as high as possible...
Id still rather have the 6spd becuz u can rearend swap to wake it up alot. Or i seen a DCT swap. I would never smg. But thats me. Enjoy your v10 bro congrats
@@eastoakland-S65feen I'd love to go DCT but not in my budget right now... lol... Thanks tho.
Kevin Karbonik I actually like the SMG. I would definitely prefer a DCT swap because it's just that much better, but an SMG that is serviced properly and has a strong hydraulic pump motor, slave cylinder, clean hydraulic and gear oil, and well-functioning clutch position sensor is actually pretty fun. In its highest speed setting, it gets reasonably close to DCT speed, but certainly not nearly as smooth when shifting near redline.
@@NathanKopilec lol.. .yeeah I just dumped about 3k into mine, release bearing, ,slave cylinder, clutch arm, one bad solenoid. clutch position sensor....
I just bought one with 41k miles on it the owner took meticulous care of it i have videos on my page of mine let's talk more as fellow enthusiasts
You mentioned the car is from Chicago. Where did you take the drive at? That road looks amazing. Hope it’s close to Chicago.
We are based in Utah, and took this drive just outside Salt Lake City
Wow you can actually see the bolsters move lol
I'd LOVE one with a Manual.
Just worried about reliability nightmares... :( too bad
Don't buy into that hype. Bought mine 3yrs ago with 40k on it. 30k later it's been flawless. I've owned 2 others in the past as well and guess what? No major issues. Smh. People blow things out of proportion with these cars.
That engine is so powerful no matter what👀👀👀👀
I have an e60m5 too.. but it has been in my mechanic shop for a month now trying to figure out what causing the reduced engine power.. He said all mechanisms works.. even checked compression ratio.. re-programmed DME still has reduced engine power fault code.
ever fix it?
Yea, the bolsters suck, first time i used them in hard driving, they just about split my kidneys open, i leave them off and just set them nice and snug, the smg is not the best, especially round town, but on the open road pretty good, i like feeling the next gear slam in, and with 7 ratios, much better suited to the s85 than the 6 shooter, and therefore quicker, and faster than anyone can rip a stick, BMW actually made a 5.5 litre v10 DCT, but never realeased it, what a shame, that would be awesome, even today.
I own this car in HK, ultra dense metro area. To be honest I think it’s harder for you to drive smooth than drive fast in it. Become my daily challenge!
E39 M5 next please.
11:42 / 20:08 "Stop it with the bolsters, I'm just sitting here."
This is generation of 5 series BMW started going down hill. Still handles great and is light in six cylinder version. The interior was goofy with that idrive. The run flat tires are stupid. And the exterior is love it or hate it, even though I think looks interesting. Get it with base straight six with no turbo and it is still a good BMw if you can live with idrive.
6 cylinder? Lol I'll take the V10 thanks.
You dont have to have run flat tires. Drive one and it will completely shift your opinion in every category.
Well, I bought a 2006 525xi for the kids to drive a couple years ago. Good car, 6 cyl non-turb. That led me to buying the meaner brother, 2006 M5 for myself. Great car, totally different driving experience, as expected.
my dream M5... the only m5 i wish to own....
Worth every penny but you need 10k to spare at any time. It is a very special car to own.
I have one myself, but I (do not) daily it. I drive it about 6 to 8 times a month. Basically on the weekends. But I have a 335i for my daily. If you dont have a daily car don't by this.
Too cool. I’m doing some upgrades to my 335i right now. When I’m done, it will be my daily with the M5 going in the garage, awaiting the inevitable value increase.
lets see a W211E55 AMG next
I own an I6 twin scroll bmw and I get anxiety everytime i turn it on. I quiver at the thought of the warranty running out. How do they get away with doing this to people??
because people buy them... they aren't that bad if you keep up on maintenance, don't buy into the hype, remember, peoples bad experiences are what get media attention, not the good ones.
Just to put in my 2 cents. I owned one for about 3 years. Bought w around 60k miles and when it was running it drove amazing i loved every second of it. Unfortunately for me mine spent a hefty amount of time being in the shop. I think i just had bad luck with mine but i spent so much money on repairs i had no choice but to sell it.
What stuff did it need doing?
manual e60 m5 are rare. theirs only 1366 total. So you can expect that theirs only about 1K of them left.
6MT was a USA only option. Germans want these now if they want the S85 V10.
If I had a new M3 ordered I would already have my plate ordered from state of Michigan. BVRTH1
tank yu for driving value down
I forgot manuals were dual clutches....this video reminded me with a manual I can look at the gear selector and it’ll be in the ideal gear. Lmao...jk. If you drive the smg like a manual it’s insane. The 7 speed was designed for the s85 engine. The 6 speed came out of the 550 which didn’t pair correct and the ratios don’t match the s85 at all....and you guys can chill with the damn seats. Also remind your self of the shit boxes you drive as well...I own an e60 m5, an e46 m3, an e39 m5 as well as an i3 that I daily and I have had very few major issues with any of them. Yes bmw’s are expensive to maintain but if you take care of them they will take care of you. Don’t treat it like a shit box and you will never have an issue. Also run 5w50 redline with motorkote and you will be in great shape. You guys should also brush up on your knowledge on cars lmao. 10 actuators? There are 10 throttle bodies but one 1 actuator per bank. So there are only 2 throttle actuators lmao not 10. And you can get a rebuild kit and install metal gears so they never fail again. This video really pissed me off.
PS: and ask someone to set the bolsters properly for you lol
I sold my 370z now I’m looking for an m5 and I think I found the right one but everyone is saying the bearings will fail. Now I don’t know what to do because I’ve been looking forward to one.
@ChildSupport 911 You don't say how many miles or how many owners? Is the book fully stamped, incl the running in service? Are the oil changes at 10,000 miles or 20k? Can you get a friendly master tech to hook up and see how many times it has been launched? Does it have Michelin tyres on it; PS2 or Super Sport or PS4 S? Does everything electrical work eg can you connect your phone? Do the headlights follow your turns? Does it drive and brake straight and does it absorb the bumps differently as you select EDC one light, two lights and off? If you drive several you may notice some can seem harsher.
Bearings - mentioned almost as often as non-functioning indicators. Check the oil color. Unscrew the filler cap and look at the metal parts inside with a torch for any reddish discolouration.
Funny I love the shape of the 370z, but too few seats and I have an i6 as well. If you have any specific M5 queries.......
@@robi4387 im looking at a 06 m5 smg with 11,000 miles for just over 35k. The dealer that sells it offers a bumper to bumper warranty. I am willing to pay for the 11mpg gas bill and pay extra for the warranty.
My main worry though, is its an 06 with 11k miles. It has not really been driven that much and my worry is that a ton of things will go wrong at once if suddenly driven. It comes with all the original paperwork and service history, even the import papers and window sticker. Is this a reasonable car to consider?
More perpetuating of the exaggerated unreliability issues with no basis in fact. Loads of these are the wrong side of 100k miles now and still going...
The horn is exactly the same on the M5 as normal E60s so hardly relevant. If someone paid $700 for that then thats their issue 😂
Btw - the seat bolsters both close if you quickly turn one way and then the other, not under braking. 👍🏻
If you get anxiety whilst driving - this is not the car for you...
Does a carmax warranty have loads of exclusions?
It does. Routine maintenance items such as filters, batteries, brakes, lights & fluids are not included. And of course aftermarket parts and failure of parts caused by negligence is not included. Good thing is there is no "grey" area in their warranty. They clearly list out the components that are not warrantied. Everything else is covered.
There will never be another car that excites the soul as much as an S85 powered ///M
Love mine and would not consider going to the turbo fart cars that are faster.
Love mine in the Uk
Wish we had the
Manual gearbox though as you yanks didn’t deserve it
BMW , why why why !!
What the fuck was BMW thinking. Strange move.
If I had one of these I would so replace those seats
Where was this filmed?
East Canyon Road, also called Highway 65 in Salt Lake City, Utah
@@rohit_19962 thanks! Breathtaking place
@@jeppewerring I drove mine through Arizona and Mexico and it was the most absolute beautiful experience i have been apart of on on top of driving a brand new 1 of these 26 hourse back go GA I have a video the scenery is quiet nice
I have a 07 530i but I want the M5 V10 e60 but was told to stay away from it and get the F10 M5 instead.
That is an awesomely beautiful car. They don't make em that sexy anymore.
10 years on my 6 speed Dinan S2 e60 m5. Sitting at 174,000 miles of daily, track, and baby hauling. LOL at all the internet comments of the 6 speed not matched to the v10. Bean counters decided to only offer the 7 speed SMG 3.62 final drive for 6 speed manual, well that's not going to work. Don't blame the 6 speed transmission, blame the ratios (and bean counters) -- or fix the ratio with a 3.91 for the 6 speed. Not giving up my "afterthought" 6 speed: ua-cam.com/video/4WtWlXVMnuc/v-deo.html
3:11 THIS IS Y THE CONVERTIBLE IS THE BEST
RETRACTABLE REAR GLASS
HEAR THE EXHAUST NOTE
:3
also i ripped the insulation off the inside of my hood for more induction noise :3
4:54 i put almost 20k miles on mine the first summer i had it lmfao
couple 3k mile round trip road trips and a bunch of 200-500 mile road trips and just a lotta driving around w friends w the top down
Thankyou for reviewing an older cool car! I really like the look and sound of this car. What did the owner pay for the warranty, what does it cover and how long is it? Btw you can adjust the bolsters all the way to off using idrive and a seat button. Here's a tutorial on how to adjust them ua-cam.com/video/HO3pyJhbLpA/v-deo.html
Not driving these kinds of cars is far worse for them. Drive them a few times a week and don't be afraid to give the old Italian tune up once it's at operating temp.
A white M5 is an absolute power move
Had two 07 530i's, I brought back from Germany. I liked the E60, and thought about picking up an M5 now, but the connecting rod bearing issue, VANOS pump, and the high pressure line looks like a bit of work once it hits 60k miles. Finding one that has had this performed recently would be ideal.
You can always convert it to a manual.
this car body style was hated by many old school BMW owers...
cool but fragile vehicle I am more partial with the E39 M5, drove one when new 18 yrs ago and still going with 145,000 miles
After rod bearings are done you need 5k on deck to blow on this car at any given time.. speaking from experience, and it’s worth every dollar
This is the truth - mine is getting bearings, new clutch and rear diff (exploded recently)
8k all in.
@@rooster16091982 did you fix it all?
Can i get that engine in my E36 please..
Too big and heavy for an E36
Have u seen driftwrks e46 m3 v10 swap. Awesome