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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  3 місяці тому +39

    Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/
    Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

    • @Evodocturine
      @Evodocturine 3 місяці тому

      Damn you're quite the pilot here.!
      I've been watching your stuff for a while now and.. Well... Damn! You're one hell of a pilot.

    • @joelfrantz3189
      @joelfrantz3189 3 місяці тому

      Love you GS! Please do more VR stuff!!!

    • @assafgol
      @assafgol 3 місяці тому

      The question is if the flight model of the 86 is accurate or just a skin.

    • @Anarchy_420
      @Anarchy_420 3 місяці тому +1

      Please fly The F-15EX with AIM-260's VS The MIG-31 with R-37M's!🙏
      Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM!🙏

    • @nyito8548
      @nyito8548 3 місяці тому

      In a similar vein to this, I'd really love to see some guns only with the F-86, MiG-15, against some of the modern trainers like the MB-339, L-39, etc. Planes from very different eras but similar-ish performance. The A-4 would be a good addition here too.

  • @mariapetrou2003
    @mariapetrou2003 3 місяці тому +939

    The impossible dogfight: The Wright Flyer VS an A350 Airbus.

    • @gotafarmyet4691
      @gotafarmyet4691 3 місяці тому +166

      Death by wake turbulence all it has to do is fly by the Flyer. The only advantage the Flyer has is that the pilot can fire the pistol in almost any direction

    • @tonik2229
      @tonik2229 3 місяці тому +42

      bro gonna be playing that in msfs 😂

    • @no_regerts5176
      @no_regerts5176 3 місяці тому +23

      Talk about a knife fight.

    • @aztec0112
      @aztec0112 3 місяці тому +47

      A350:2 "What was that?"
      A350:1 "What was what?"

    • @solarflare623
      @solarflare623 3 місяці тому +39

      Wilber wright with a colt and a flight attendant sticking a Glock out the door!

  • @busterdee8228
    @busterdee8228 3 місяці тому +449

    That first cockpit hit is what you call indisputable.

    • @donl9571
      @donl9571 3 місяці тому +8

      Like the WW1 dogfights.

  • @Hurricane2k8
    @Hurricane2k8 3 місяці тому +281

    GS in every dogfight: that turn reversal of the enemy was a mistake
    GS in this dogfight: reverses the turn

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 3 місяці тому +16

      You only reverse the turn if you can get the overshoot.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 3 місяці тому +12

      @@heathb4319 Or feel like you got no other choice left.

    • @stinkyfungus
      @stinkyfungus 3 місяці тому

      To be fair, that rule of thumb applies mostly to being on the defensive.
      In that first fight vs the E - GS was offensive through alot of that fight, it started to go neutral as the airspeed dropped off and that primitive little turbojet in the 86 just didn't have the poop to keep that nose up and pointed at the eagle in the toilet bowl. He had to keep the nose dumped to maintain airspeed, the eagle with its far superior T/W, didn't have to do that.
      You could see the fight turning into a slow one circle, which was favorable to the eagle with its superior power output, and ability to pull itself through manuvers using brute power
      The turn reversal was a last ditch attempt to change the geometry of the fight and maybe roll into the eagles control zone - but the eagle was just too good in the one circle, saw what he was trying to do and countered it.

  • @billisaacs702
    @billisaacs702 3 місяці тому +189

    That was quite a toothbrushing you got in the first round.

  • @microbuilder
    @microbuilder 3 місяці тому +56

    The slumped over pilot is pretty brutal lol

  • @MrMan5014
    @MrMan5014 3 місяці тому +75

    In Vietnam the F4 Phantom was struggling against the Mig 17 and so they broke out the old F-86 to mock dog fight with the F4 in order to develop tactics to fight against the Mig 17...I've watched video footage of the training and its quite amazing to watch the old Sabre battle with the Phantom...my uncle flew in the Air Force and Navy and his favorite plane was the Sabre!

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 3 місяці тому +21

      Funny thing was, it wasnt necessarily even a problem of the Phantom. But rather than this was a kind of fight the F4 pilots just never trained for.

  • @RodneyPinSC
    @RodneyPinSC 3 місяці тому +167

    GS - We hope you are doing well. We were worried when we couldn't get our daily GS-fix.
    We know you are entitled to a life - you've created the addiction we collectively have for your channel.
    Thank you for all you do.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  3 місяці тому +117

      I appreciate you guys, but ur correct I was off spending some time with my wife but yes slowly going to be getting back into the swing of things. Thank you again much love.

    • @busterdee8228
      @busterdee8228 3 місяці тому +1

      Awe@@GrowlingSidewinder

    • @pookie9461
      @pookie9461 3 місяці тому +3

      Glad you guys could get away GS! Hey how about a F-86 vs Me-262 fight?

    • @wyattdean5192
      @wyattdean5192 3 місяці тому +4

      @@GrowlingSidewinderGood for you man, family is always more important than anything here on youtube!

    • @RodneyPinSC
      @RodneyPinSC 3 місяці тому +2

      Please let your better half know how much we appreciate her sharing your time with us :)

  • @RushZ3r
    @RushZ3r 3 місяці тому +61

    GS be making us feel emotional for the pilots 😭

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 3 місяці тому +7

      Yeah, like in the first round...showed that pilot praying before he hit the water ;))

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand 3 місяці тому +39

    Brer Hornet: Don't throw me in that thar low-speed one-circle!

    • @heathb4319
      @heathb4319 3 місяці тому +3

      Ahhh...an educated mind. Good to meet you sir.

  • @parkpunk2
    @parkpunk2 3 місяці тому +18

    2:45 to 3:15 was more emotional than the first three episodes of Masters of the Air.

  • @apostlestumpy
    @apostlestumpy 3 місяці тому +26

    The Australian CAC CA27 was the most potent variant of the F-86 sabre family with a bigger engine and 2X 30mm Aden cannons. It also had sidewinders at the end.

    • @karelpgbr
      @karelpgbr 3 місяці тому +3

      Oh this sounds so cool!

    • @commandercody3935
      @commandercody3935 6 днів тому

      The Avro sabre MK6 had the best overall performance however stuck with the 6 .50 Cal's. The CA27 is one hell of a aircraft none the less :)

    • @apostlestumpy
      @apostlestumpy 6 днів тому

      @@commandercody3935 marginally but, I still prefer the hitting power of twin 30mm Adens👍

    • @commandercody3935
      @commandercody3935 6 днів тому +1

      @@apostlestumpy and that's totally fair! I just like the candair cause my great grandfather (RIP) worked on them for 50 years in the RAF :)

  • @Stant123
    @Stant123 3 місяці тому +23

    GS in previous videos: "Never do a turn reversal unless you are certain they are going to overshoot."
    GS in this video: "Okay so I'm gonna reverse the turn... [1 minute later] Let's try and get him to overshoot..." [GS gets KIA'd]
    We really appreciate the fact you reinforce the point that it's a mistake to reverse the turn in front of your opponent from the victim's perspective. Good stuff. Haha.

  • @v8makoshark
    @v8makoshark 3 місяці тому +34

    Man, I missed these dogfights so much. Glad to see you backG/S.

  • @ColeDedhand
    @ColeDedhand 3 місяці тому +30

    God I love the Sabre. Maybe the most elegant fighter ever made.

    • @ShovelMonkey
      @ShovelMonkey 3 місяці тому +7

      Almost as elegant as the F-104 -Lawndart- -Widowmaker- *Starfighter!*

    • @bmdoes_stuff6861
      @bmdoes_stuff6861 3 місяці тому +7

      @@ShovelMonkeyflying pencil

  • @neoironfyst
    @neoironfyst 3 місяці тому +35

    When you're a beast at dog fighting and you have to limit yourself to an under dog plane to give the other guy a chance! 🎉😂

    • @leorossi8057
      @leorossi8057 3 місяці тому +5

      honestly in a gunfight the sabre is insane. try it out sometime

  • @davidshanahan5134
    @davidshanahan5134 3 місяці тому +10

    You want the Aussie F-86 Sabre with the twin 30mm Aden cannon against the A-10. Def get the job done.

  • @muttley00
    @muttley00 3 місяці тому +6

    Imagine if you could do engine swaps in the same way as cars. What more modern engine would fit into an F86? Assuming its installation doesn't alter the C of G, doesn't bend the airframe etc, how awesome would it be?

  • @kindasupersonic7114
    @kindasupersonic7114 3 місяці тому +28

    hahahahahahahaahaha that first kill was NAAAAASTY~

    • @jgl6793
      @jgl6793 3 місяці тому

      Prez, is that you?😂😂

  • @ws6619
    @ws6619 3 місяці тому +6

    first fight... how many times have I heard you say... don't reverse the turn unless you know he's going to overshoot. lolololol

  • @gjoinolywa5850
    @gjoinolywa5850 3 місяці тому +7

    Went back to watch old IL-2 vids. You were having fun, “so satisfying!” Less clinical than BVR fights. Keep having over the top fun! It’s what drew me in the first place.

  • @treetrunks4175
    @treetrunks4175 3 місяці тому +6

    i am absolutely loving the new style of making the deaths so emotional. Absolutely brilliant!

  • @FrostYT4444
    @FrostYT4444 3 місяці тому +80

    When you realize the majority of aircraft you know of is mostly from this channel..

    • @Baptistbowhunter
      @Baptistbowhunter 3 місяці тому +1

      Story of my life bro

    • @SpecialTeams
      @SpecialTeams 3 місяці тому +7

      I would recommend branching out this is very entry level aviation enthusiast

    • @robertbehmer6575
      @robertbehmer6575 3 місяці тому +1

      At least I’m not the only one lol

    • @Amac1825
      @Amac1825 3 місяці тому +3

      Jokes on you I started on WarTinder

    • @ItzCPU_
      @ItzCPU_ 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Amac1825same i love wart humpter

  • @borgman151
    @borgman151 3 місяці тому +5

    Every single time I am watching and your talking...and your voice becomes concerned then "SPLAT" - I jump!

  • @Petah_Griffin
    @Petah_Griffin 3 місяці тому +1

    Literal pixel on a screen: exists
    Growling sidewinder: looks like a strike eagle, maybe a Charlie version

  • @woistwalter7037
    @woistwalter7037 3 місяці тому +4

    Great video.
    When the F-15 pulled behind you at 2:28, it looked so badass.

  • @doemacmonkey
    @doemacmonkey 3 місяці тому +2

    Australian Sabres has 2 x 30mm Aden cannons - that would have helped!

  • @Tenchigumi
    @Tenchigumi 3 місяці тому +1

    Hello, my name is Fatal Splat Sound, and I am proud to be a part of this video.

  • @rel6438
    @rel6438 3 місяці тому +2

    That was different. Pilot slump over as jets has holes riddled all through it

  • @isaac77655
    @isaac77655 3 місяці тому +12

    Love these dogfighting everything videos

  • @mkii1964
    @mkii1964 3 місяці тому +2

    Knife fight in a phone booth with that Hornet!!!

  • @andrewbranch4075
    @andrewbranch4075 3 місяці тому +1

    That was good to watch. Considering that the F86 is 1950s technology, that was a capable and vigorous scrap 👍✌️☮️

  • @TriggerVR657
    @TriggerVR657 3 місяці тому +5

    This thing is surprisingly good at dogfights against modern jets lol

  • @fox3phoenix811
    @fox3phoenix811 3 місяці тому +2

    I love fighting with the Sabre against gen 4 aircraft. Its not easy but often they underestimate what the sabre can do in close and slow. I have a fight against the F18 on my channel with similar outcomes as your hahaha. Another great video GS!!

  • @Geto-Dac
    @Geto-Dac 3 місяці тому +4

    the a10 pilot was great!

  • @Takyodor2
    @Takyodor2 2 місяці тому

    The A-10 taking those shots, and just... not giving a F was so funny 😆

  • @alxavier3795
    @alxavier3795 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you to both pilots for a great fight!

  • @brumdo78
    @brumdo78 3 місяці тому +1

    I gotta say that I really appreciate the artistic moods you create like at 2:40. Makes my "allergies" flair up. :)
    You're one of the best!

  • @Kcco03_
    @Kcco03_ 3 місяці тому

    9:30 the careful removal of a man’s confidence😂

  • @daniellogan9328
    @daniellogan9328 3 місяці тому +1

    Dude this video makes me so happy! At the FBO where I work there was an F-86 that was privately owned that needed maintenance for a couple of years. I was just thinking about it and was wanting to see it in a video!

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 3 місяці тому +1

    Yes! Thank you GS!! I've been waiting 2 years to see this fight and knew it'd be an interesting one! Thank you GS for flying The F-86 and Thank you Bane for bringing out The A-10!😁👍👍

  • @Amantla
    @Amantla 3 місяці тому +2

    Yay go hornet driver!!! loved that bug sound

  • @curtisbartlett8170
    @curtisbartlett8170 3 місяці тому

    Excellent! What a great looking piece of history. Thank you for that.

  • @LeglessTurtle
    @LeglessTurtle 3 місяці тому +2

    Great job on the DCS 2024 and beyond video btw! It gave me some serious goosebumps

  • @nickhimaras9331
    @nickhimaras9331 3 місяці тому

    Nice touch on the "Requiem for a Fighter Pilot" scenes...

  • @crossbowman100
    @crossbowman100 3 місяці тому

    THANK YOU! ive been asking every handful of videos for this. im hyped

  • @Peter_Morris
    @Peter_Morris 3 місяці тому +1

    Man the holes from that Eagle kill! Ouch!

  • @MrNiceGuy82
    @MrNiceGuy82 Місяць тому

    That dramatic F-15 kill was comedy gold.

  • @asmodeaus8024
    @asmodeaus8024 3 місяці тому +1

    This era of jets are so steampunk and I'm here for it

  • @AshBhang2010
    @AshBhang2010 3 місяці тому +1

    ohhh so sad seeing the pilot slumped over his controls :) great shot ! !

  • @diegoruiz7600
    @diegoruiz7600 3 місяці тому +1

    That first one was a nasty pilot kill.

  • @michaeljamieson5227
    @michaeljamieson5227 3 місяці тому +1

    Excellent, more of this stuff please!

  • @lucariogamer4449
    @lucariogamer4449 3 місяці тому

    Love the saber, I would like to see some more of it in the future! Nice work as always, and awesome kill on the A-10!

  • @DemonLordGamingAC0
    @DemonLordGamingAC0 3 місяці тому

    Back in the PS2 there was a combat flight simulator called Aero Elite: Combat Academy. I used to use the F-86 because it was a very good dogfighter lol

  • @RPGWoodworking
    @RPGWoodworking 3 місяці тому +1

    hope nobody was camping under the rain of those F-18 rounds at the end...lol

  • @920utdoors9
    @920utdoors9 3 місяці тому

    That hornet howl has got to be terrifying to hear behind you

  • @tswims92
    @tswims92 3 місяці тому +1

    You fighting in the F-86 is the best, please keep them coming!

  • @ArcaneActual
    @ArcaneActual 3 місяці тому +1

    Love these unknown fights!! Great fights!

  • @dlr1668
    @dlr1668 3 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful shot on the engine

  • @702BattleBorn
    @702BattleBorn 3 місяці тому +1

    Yo GS, respects for taking on the superior foe. Thanks for the video. As always great work. Have a pleasant day. Cheers.

  • @banditdelta7172
    @banditdelta7172 3 місяці тому +1

    50s jets are so fuckin sick

  • @RobbyReyes1979
    @RobbyReyes1979 3 місяці тому +2

    3:10 my new phone wallpaper

  • @dougcoombes8497
    @dougcoombes8497 3 місяці тому

    The A-10 was built to deal with an entirely different order of weaponry than .50 cal. It was built to survive multiple hits from Soviet 23mm cannons and the engines are designed to burn and fall off so if you lose one you still have a clean airframe to fly home on the other engine. Plus the titanium armor bath the pilot sits in make a pilot kill much harder.

  • @jdbarnes5987
    @jdbarnes5987 3 місяці тому +1

    That dead pilot shot was legit sad

  • @verfugbarkite
    @verfugbarkite 3 місяці тому

    That last stitching you gave the A10 was the coolest thing.

  • @InitialP_Photography
    @InitialP_Photography 3 місяці тому +1

    Good to see you back man

  • @dwarfkilla91
    @dwarfkilla91 3 місяці тому

    glad you're back, was getting worried.

  • @VikingTeddy
    @VikingTeddy 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh boy oh boy! This is going to be awesome! Early jets is where it's at!
    Let me get a cuppa and a blanket so I can enjoy this properly.

  • @funsizephil
    @funsizephil 3 місяці тому

    Really enjoyed this one. More please!

  • @taylorbonnah261
    @taylorbonnah261 3 місяці тому

    This was a fun video choice to make. Love seeing a random aircraft take on a variety of opponents.

  • @BlackMasterRoshi
    @BlackMasterRoshi 3 місяці тому +1

    love stuff from the saber era!

  • @tstamm70
    @tstamm70 3 місяці тому

    I can say that the F-86 use to pull darts for F-15 at a location I was in the 90s. F-86 guys said they would have no issue beating them.

  • @308BORE
    @308BORE 2 місяці тому +1

    f 86 is such a beautiful aircraft!

  • @RickPMandel
    @RickPMandel 3 місяці тому

    How fun! Thanks for this one!

  • @jasperdeluna7850
    @jasperdeluna7850 3 місяці тому

    The sound of aircraft near missing each other as they pass sounds sooooo good

  • @EGLately
    @EGLately 3 місяці тому

    Been waiting for this video my whole life

  • @beardedphobos5211
    @beardedphobos5211 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely loved this vid

  • @andrewjackson5127
    @andrewjackson5127 3 місяці тому

    I think that reversal...SPLAT! LOL.

  • @anthonysmith3593
    @anthonysmith3593 3 місяці тому

    I used to work next door to a company at one time used to build the sabres airframes

  • @beccabits
    @beccabits 3 місяці тому

    That first GS KIA cut scene was high art.

  • @milkmunstr
    @milkmunstr 3 місяці тому

    well this is the earliest I've ever been for a GS video

  • @KZ-se4ik
    @KZ-se4ik 3 місяці тому

    Bane's first few choices were quite sportsmanlike. Turning you into pink mist however...

  • @LeonAust
    @LeonAust 3 місяці тому

    The Aussies had a Sabre heavily modified called an Avon Sabre with 2 x 30mm Aden cannons.

  • @hatoffnickel
    @hatoffnickel 3 місяці тому

    THANK YOU for this

  • @abbaerfani9007
    @abbaerfani9007 3 місяці тому

    Good to have you back ❤

  • @MaK_K_Ksim
    @MaK_K_Ksim 3 місяці тому

    that first round was emotional..

  • @StarJackal
    @StarJackal 3 місяці тому +1

    2:45 You can see the rounds from the previous pass hit the water

  • @warthunderpro-2232
    @warthunderpro-2232 3 місяці тому

    i literaly just got the discord notification right when i seen this in my recomended perfect timing!

  • @OW38B
    @OW38B 3 місяці тому +1

    Very cool perspective. Maybe some future vids with the same type of scenario

  • @israelmoreno3620
    @israelmoreno3620 3 місяці тому +3

    at 3:04 i died laughung 🤣😂🤣💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

  • @David-2499
    @David-2499 3 місяці тому

    The fight against the A10 was awesome, good show.

  • @steveparker576
    @steveparker576 3 місяці тому

    Love the choir and dramatic music 😂❤

  • @roadkillvp4life
    @roadkillvp4life 3 місяці тому

    2:59 Reminds me of a Viking Funeral. Saddest shot I've seen.

  • @MelordJenkins
    @MelordJenkins 3 місяці тому

    F-15 literally one tapped you out existence 😭😭🤣

  • @jordangoodwin9808
    @jordangoodwin9808 3 місяці тому

    Hey, growling. I was thinking it would be nice to see you in the P-38 again. Loved your past videos in it.

  • @TymaDem
    @TymaDem 3 місяці тому

    2:44 even in E-form, Eagle is still an Eagle

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu 3 місяці тому

    So strangely and magnificently entertaining.

  • @EminenceFrontX5
    @EminenceFrontX5 3 місяці тому

    I love these episodes...rockon!

  • @KH990j
    @KH990j 3 місяці тому

    I like the Sabre, and I love GS enemy unknown so this was a good combo that I had to watch.

  • @foxtwo1584
    @foxtwo1584 3 місяці тому

    12:36 legit made me jump, brilliant video as always!