@@Goldn177 yes I agree. But this way the spitfire had no chance. If he would have slowed down the turn fight he might have had a fighting chance. My prediction is that he would have to jinx an avoid couple first turn but then he would slowly start to win the turn fight and the F22 would have to resort to vertical fight.
I've been wondering how a biplane would perform against an f22 in a dogfight , would you think that could win the first turn and get some rounds in target
That F22 moves like a UFO. The way it turned on that first turn is so unnatural. If anyone had ever accidentally seen it, I'm sure it'd freak them out It doesn't have that normal "oversteer" like an old muscle car would if it's drifting around a corner, and how most jets move. It's just so smooth
In future F-22 vids, it’d be cool if you showed both the vectored and non-vectored versions fighting the bandit. Idk if that’s be too much of a pain or something I just think it’d be cool
The way that F-22 hopelessly outmaneuvers that Spitfire and seemingly defies the laws of physics makes it feel like I’m watching a UFO fighting Earth-based aircraft on a visit to Earth in 1944.
The f22 looks like a leaf gently and gracefully moving through the air; while spitting solid beams of boom boom juice... That's how I would describe it as a WW2 pilot 🤣
In these scenarios where you have complete dominance. I think that changing it up and starting the fight in a full disadvantage would be more fun. I.e spit starts stabilized behind you at 300-500 m and then calls fight's on.
Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Big thank you to Skimatic for flying the spitfire for todays video, and thank you all for watching, I hope you enjoyed the video. also, Big Thank you to Grinnelli over at GrinnelliDesigns for letting me show off this amazing proof of concept of his Thrust Vectoring F-22 Raptor, as mentioned in the past it was never intended for public release, it was way too complicated to actually try to do anything with it that would make it worth it for the community, but we're lucky enough to get a peak at it, if you guys have any cool ideas of what we should do with this thing let me know in the comment section below, we just have a go at it. Thanks for Watching guys Much Love.
It must be satisfying to toy with an opponent after being repeatedly yeeted at range by the Foxhound. I'm loving these unconventional pairings as always!
4:28 Jimmy who suddenly time traveled in the middle of a battle over the english channel, watching the burning remains of his plane, pants thoroughly shat
Next do an F22 vs a hot air balloon? Literally the only aircraft floaty enough to force an instant overshoot in an F-22. Might be a fairer fight with the hot air balloon.
Ok, so how about the sopwith camel? Literally the only plane floaty enough to force an instant overshoot in an F-22. Might be a fairer fight with the camel.
Gameplay mimics reality, almost.. Back in 1963 the RAF actually had mock dogfights between a Spit PR XIX & a EE Lightning. This was a look at how a Lightning would fare against a P-51 at a time of the Indonesian conflict.. the Spit having similar performance to a P-51
I’m honestly impressed that anyone can keep track of the tiny fast moving speck in the distance that’s trying to kill them. You must have the eyes of a bird, homie
I would have liked to see the Griffon powered spitfire with the contra rotating props. Also how many spitfires could be built for the price of one F22...........and how would the F22 feel about fighting that many spitfires?
of course we could simply churn out Spitfires like Henry Ford stamp out cars and fill the sky with hundreds of Spitfires flying in formation, (of course it did), with the caveat that it should be unmanned.
Oh BOY this year is gonna give us one of the BEST yearly montages from GS... deaths and wins in all. Whoever edits these vids is completely genius, and if its Growling then well done! Between this and the last few weeks of episodes Ive never randomly laughed so much and so loud that i think my neighbors are starting to think i have psychosis
Imagine the spitfire pilot saying this: I am looking for the German fighter F22:Surprise Spitfire:what the hell was that? Also Spitfire: Forgot to fly his plane properly.
I think it would be fun to watch because of the loud open-cockpit audio and sustained close ranges. However, even though the I-16 can effortlessly out-turn any jet, its weapons are puny. The F-22 could probably soak up all of its 7.62s and still win.
@@Hornet135It's straightforward to get consistent centerline snapshots with aggressive lead pursuit, but it takes a number of passes to see any effect unless you get lucky.
4:27 The face of a man from the 1940s who just fought against some kind of alien aircraft and somehow is still alive
It's a mk 9, let's say 1943
This had to be the best part of the video lmao I laughed so hard at it
@@anthonyortiz6189 fr
Top 5 GS moments
Seriously contemplating his life choices... legend has it he became a dentist after that Raptor battle.
It's not the Raptor or the Spitfire we should be praising for its turning ability in this video, it's that van at around 4:22. Good lord
He hit at least 15g taking that turn
He was jamming the WEZ
@@tedf7843 lol
haha... it got rear wheel steering.. that even F22 does not have!!
@@munindramohanta2584 pretty sure the tail is an elevon? it doesn't have canard...
The most cinematic disrespect done on this channel since the Harrier shoot down and visit hovering above the ejected pilot!
Brutal.
Which ep?
@@viperfanaccount688 Harrier vs Viggen. Just watched it again 😆🤣. Sidewinder displayed the proper attitude... even while on foot patrol.
You forgot about that f-22 just forming up on the Su-27
4:28 that part is just pure gold lmao
When the nam’ flashbacks kick in
"I survived, but at what cost?".
bro i died lol
That was some crazy driving at 4:25
@@recklessmeanie LOL I was literally about to comment about that 😂
Spitfire was way too fast. He was mostly vertical. He should have tried to force horizontal slow turn fight.
The f22 sorta just floats tho. That’s the problem, it has this ability to just give physics the finger
@@Goldn177 yes I agree. But this way the spitfire had no chance. If he would have slowed down the turn fight he might have had a fighting chance. My prediction is that he would have to jinx an avoid couple first turn but then he would slowly start to win the turn fight and the F22 would have to resort to vertical fight.
Another mistake spitfire was making was constantly reversing and trying 1 circle, not realizing F-22 has more alpha than the spitfire
you are NOT outstalling a plane with greater than 1:1 thrust to weight ...
@@Asghaad fair point. But providing the spitfire is much lighter, it's turn circle could be smaller. Worth a try IMHO.
I've been wondering how a biplane would perform against an f22 in a dogfight , would you think that could win the first turn and get some rounds in target
ask him one hundred times. or just ask That Guy to do it for you.
Biplane with aim 9 vs F-22
I am thinking the heat from afterburner could blow the biplane into flames.
Red baron Vs f-22 when??
Russian biplane, the I-15
Dude, some of these videos are beautifully cursed.
Agreed
The history Channel at 3AM be like :
4:23 That minibus had a quick turn radius than the spitfire too
ayy someone else saw that
The 1,000 yard stare as the pilot has flashbacks of the dogfight was priceless.
That little montage of the Spitfire pilots face after bailing out & suffering 'flashbacks' was so damn hilarious! 😂 The F-22, what a beast.
Spitfire: "You can't kill me if I kill myself!"
F-22: "If you kill yourself, I don't have to kill you."
Also, regular pester for Saber vs Skyhawk
God damn, the F22 can U-turn like it just heard someone talking smack behind it and its ready to throw down
F22 in a nutshell:
Pilot: "Point your nose here"
F22: "Yes"
Based
Dude, your seriously my favorite youtuber!!! Keep up the good work!!
That F22 moves like a UFO. The way it turned on that first turn is so unnatural. If anyone had ever accidentally seen it, I'm sure it'd freak them out
It doesn't have that normal "oversteer" like an old muscle car would if it's drifting around a corner, and how most jets move. It's just so smooth
In future F-22 vids, it’d be cool if you showed both the vectored and non-vectored versions fighting the bandit. Idk if that’s be too much of a pain or something I just think it’d be cool
Whats point of non vectoring. The real raptor vectors. If u want not vextoring just have prop planes fight f18 or f15
@@920utdoor Dude chill I think it's to show how much of an effect the vectoring has, it seems really interesting
@@920utdoor See my response to the other guy.
hahahaha the part with the spitfire pilot having flashbacks killed me
I’d want to see a Spitfire against a Super Hornet. That might actually be a challenge.
No hornet loses every time
@@theamericancommie727 lol no
Women with a time machine: "I'm your granddaughter."
Men with a time machine:
I didn't know 5 year olds play dcs.
@@ratulxy Imagine time Machining F-22 to one of the world wars. 😂
The way that F-22 hopelessly outmaneuvers that Spitfire and seemingly defies the laws of physics makes it feel like I’m watching a UFO fighting Earth-based aircraft on a visit to Earth in 1944.
The f22 looks like a leaf gently and gracefully moving through the air; while spitting solid beams of boom boom juice... That's how I would describe it as a WW2 pilot 🤣
yes
A plane more than twice the size of the Spitfire just dancing around it. Incredible.
I love all the care and consideration that goes out to the innocent bystanders in these videos
9:42 did anyone else notice that the rounds hit the left wing but the damage shows on the right wing?
Desync would be to blame for that.
In these scenarios where you have complete dominance. I think that changing it up and starting the fight in a full disadvantage would be more fun. I.e spit starts stabilized behind you at 300-500 m and then calls fight's on.
That sounds awesome. See if any howbthe f22 could turn the fight.
It would be awesome, if you also showed how you would perform flying the Spitfire, also Do more of these old school vs new school dogfights!!❤️
1:51 The enemy can't be on your tail if you don't have one.
The camera shot from the Spitfire of the F-22 lurking behind it was TERRIFYING lmao. Like watching a dragon upon a bird.
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Big thank you to Skimatic for flying the spitfire for todays video, and thank you all for watching, I hope you enjoyed the video.
also, Big Thank you to Grinnelli over at GrinnelliDesigns for letting me show off this amazing proof of concept of his Thrust Vectoring F-22 Raptor, as mentioned in the past it was never intended for public release, it was way too complicated to actually try to do anything with it that would make it worth it for the community, but we're lucky enough to get a peak at it, if you guys have any cool ideas of what we should do with this thing let me know in the comment section below, we just have a go at it. Thanks for Watching guys Much Love.
I have always respected the fact that you listen to your subs. Keep up the good work GS.
Still waiting on the 109 vs. 190 fight.
Do a MiG 17 vs F-22 dogfight!
It must be satisfying to toy with an opponent after being repeatedly yeeted at range by the Foxhound. I'm loving these unconventional pairings as always!
we need biplane v f22 (idea credit kinori)
It finally took over 75 years for the Spitfire to finally meet its match. Fair enough.
109 was always its match, yak-3 was way above spitfire.
4:28 Jimmy who suddenly time traveled in the middle of a battle over the english channel, watching the burning remains of his plane, pants thoroughly shat
4:28 guys gonna have some stories to tell to his grandkids
Next do an F22 vs a hot air balloon? Literally the only aircraft floaty enough to force an instant overshoot in an F-22. Might be a fairer fight with the hot air balloon.
Ok, so how about the sopwith camel? Literally the only plane floaty enough to force an instant overshoot in an F-22. Might be a fairer fight with the camel.
LOL its an F 22 - THERE ARE NO FAIR Fights ...
how many f22s would it take to shoot down the sun
It depends. If they attack at night…
"you cant turn fight a spitfire"...you can if you defy gravity
Guess fighting the Mig 31 in a Tomcat made him frustrated enough to sealclub in the Raptor again^^
Gameplay mimics reality, almost.. Back in 1963 the RAF actually had mock dogfights between a Spit PR XIX & a EE Lightning. This was a look at how a Lightning would fare against a P-51 at a time of the Indonesian conflict.. the Spit having similar performance to a P-51
4:28 that face 😶 with this quote: "but maverick told is not about the plane, it's about the pilot"
I’m honestly impressed that anyone can keep track of the tiny fast moving speck in the distance that’s trying to kill them. You must have the eyes of a bird, homie
That really looked like retaliation from the frustration of losing to the Mig 31.
Alternative video title
"GS bullying a spitfie for 11 minutes"
your videos are great. they have a calm, serious elegance to them. very relaxing. I love watching these in bed at night in the dark
Growling Sidewinder: The bane of home insurance companies.
I would have liked to see the Griffon powered spitfire with the contra rotating props. Also how many spitfires could be built for the price of one F22...........and how would the F22 feel about fighting that many spitfires?
of course we could simply churn out Spitfires like Henry Ford stamp out cars and fill the sky with hundreds of Spitfires flying in formation, (of course it did), with the caveat that it should be unmanned.
This is what first contact will look like from the aliens POV.
love the close-in PTSD shot of the spitfire pilot haha
Imagine the waking nightmare of being in WWII and, essentially, having an F-22 on your tail.....
Why did the p51 win more against the f22? Was it because the pilot was weaker on the f22 in the other fight?
Oh BOY this year is gonna give us one of the BEST yearly montages from GS... deaths and wins in all. Whoever edits these vids is completely genius, and if its Growling then well done! Between this and the last few weeks of episodes Ive never randomly laughed so much and so loud that i think my neighbors are starting to think i have psychosis
get revenge on the MIG-31 with the F-22. No 150 mile missile shots this time.
what would have been realistically hilarious is if he just ejected during the merge. "F22???? Ok Im out. Im out son"
This is like watching a cat toying with a mouse. He catches the mouse, then let’s it go again just to toy with it some more.
"I need this after the Mig-31 video - That was very painful for me"
Understatement of the century
If I was in the Spitfire going into this, I’d be thinking I had a chance. And then the second that first turn went down, I’d be freaking terrified
After that first turn it's like "Nope. Bailing out now."
F22's main armament, a device that forces enemies to kill themselves
Sheer panic.
Imagine a WW2 pilot seeing an F22 up close in the sky...🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Soccer mom on the way to the grocery store nearly got jammed up by a falling Spit XD
"Spitfire will out turn a Raptor."
_Raptor gets a maneuver kill_
I can officially say I’m learning from your videos. I immediately knew after the first turn in round 1 that you’d maneuver kill him.
There is no way you can beat Snoopy on his dog house in a F22. Thats a real ace.
4:11 this whole segment got me dying 😂
That spitfire pilot is really regretting using that secret British time traveling machine to go into the future.
More Mig-31 stuff would be nice to see. F16, F18, F22, Eurofighter etc
There was a quote from Schlock Mercenary: “They committed suicide when they saw me coming.”
4:30 that pilot be like:"they promised me free robux, they lied to me"
the near death flash back tho.... 4:36 lmao
now I wanna see F-22 vs Mig-31!!!
So this was F22 v Spitfire.
I'd like to see F22 v Hawker Hurricane please??
this man is a legend for even trying this!! amazing vids keep it up.
3:08 that’s a sick cobra spiral turn 😂
"Blimey, he's doing that bloody thrust vectoring shite!"
I watched the whole thing and realized "this is an approximate comparison between Will Smiths f18 and the alien fighters in Independence Day
OMG the close-up of the Pilot LOL 😂
This one was truly a pleasure to see.
5:24 Bless you.
Raptor vs Spitfire - when your biggest concern is where the bandit crashes.
The zoom on his face killed me haha
Just realized how superb the sound in this game is. It really computes the speed of sound!
Imagine the spitfire pilot saying this:
I am looking for the German fighter
F22:Surprise
Spitfire:what the hell was that?
Also Spitfire: Forgot to fly his plane properly.
He was staying on the throttle way too much. He could have pulled something nice off if he used flaps
the spitfire doesn't have sturdy flaps, they rip quite easily, around 150mph they come off.
The SUV at 11:12 casually driving by a spitfire chrash
That conversation tho about enjoying watching the spitfire become desperate… you good? You’re scaring me.
The residents in that village must be used to aircraft crashing around them. That driver didn't even brake or use his left indicator.
MI-24P vs F-22 fox-2 fight? :D Please we need this!
YES
THIS HAS OFFICIALLY BECOME A SERIES
that pilot close up on round 2 got me 🤣
As a person who loves Spitfires personally I'm a bit disappointed but amazed at the F-22's capabilities
Me thinking “he killed himself” was a exaggerated statement. But yet the replay showed him KAMIKAZI’NG in to ground
10:55 yea sometimes that’s the only way when you have that giant Metal death bird chasing you I mean I might do the same
All I can think of is the "why you bulleh me?" Meme
Karen has no time for crashing Spitfires. She has managers to see.
Great fun GS, just needed more of that glorious RR Merlin engine sound - SPITFIRE! (The Prodigy).
“I’m doing that thrust vectoring bulls**t on him” - GS, probably
I lost it at the PTSD montage 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Raptor playing with its food
nah gs got too many ideas with the mustang 😭
F16 vs Spitfire in 'Do you think you can rate Bro'
Another one, this is awesome,
and now the question becomes what you could do with the i16 against the raptor
I think it would be fun to watch because of the loud open-cockpit audio and sustained close ranges. However, even though the I-16 can effortlessly out-turn any jet, its weapons are puny. The F-22 could probably soak up all of its 7.62s and still win.
@@hardyr Still, 4x7.62 at 1800rpm mounted close to center line can be pretty effective. I wish DCS had one of the variants with 2x7.62+2x20.
@@Hornet135It's straightforward to get consistent centerline snapshots with aggressive lead pursuit, but it takes a number of passes to see any effect unless you get lucky.
@@hardyr Leads me to think IL-2 has better damage modeling than DCS.
@@Hornet135 Probably. There are a number of videos on this channel where hits between WWII and modern aircraft have anticlimactic effects.
I do have to wonder what sort of mad lad was designing 5th gen fighters and was like “we should make them able to drift”
bruh isnt it ironic one of tightest turning planes history barely fired