Kara and Nate I am a retired Federal worker. Always appeal any decision. Yes it takes time but an Appeal Officer looks at the case with fresh eyes and has a lot of leeway to resolve. Ask your person about your appeal rights. So sorry this has happened.
Yes! What they said. I think this is an example of government rules not keeping up with the times. Probably dated regulations that didn't consider youtube.
@@sarahc8370 you’re provably right. And our beautiful parks need patrons to visit & support them, yet they’ve chosen to turn away some incredible free advertising.
Just sad, absolutely disgusting low class shame. Probably a young You Tuber can't get viewership and traction since Kara and Nate do such an awesome job, and put into man hours and dedication to perfect their craft.
@@markapuan exactly. a bitter, envious, resentful narcissist who feels like others' accomplishments highlight their lack of achievements and so they lash out at the successful people instead of ever getting the help they need. f**ing pathetic
I am a pilot myself and all you need is for a CFI to sign off on that part 107 application and youll recieve the licence, i have it myself and would love to walk you through the steps to get it!
Y'all just live y'all best life n capture it n share with the world. Just like a parent captured their kids milestones n share them. So who ever reported y'all videos and also reported y'all to the faa is a very jealous person because y'all saves y'all money n now are full time travelers
I can't imagine your frustration but if it's any consolation... all of us loyal subscribers are here just because we genuinely love your energy and excitement. So it doesn't matter what you're doing or where you're going, as long as it's you both doing something that you love, we'll be more than happy to come along for the ride 💖
Whoever called the government on you guys (apparently a viewer of the channel) is the same person to remind their teacher to collect the homework if they forgot to collect it.
Kara & Nate, one thing you could continue to focus on is mini-docs about small towns in America that no one would ever know of. What are their interests, how do they operate on a small scale, what are their religious & political backgrounds, etc. Could be a really eye-opening experience to show how diverse and dynamic our country is, especially in a time of such clear divide. Regardless, you're gonna make it work and make all of us happy! Edit: wow, glad to see so many people agree! Tl;dr - anyone can visit national parks, but only experienced storytellers like Kara and Nate traveling the country in a van can tell us stories we’ve never seen or could experience.
I love this, idea. But also most national park tons have a ton of sites and experiences that aren't part of the national park and should be video friendly. I think about like Hatch rock in Moab and looking glass point, less busy and WAY more interesting than arches!
@@JennaBrown thanks! The way I see it, anyone can go to a national park. But if you’re gonna live in a van exploring America, show us parts that we’d never know!
@@chelseamunroe In turn, the Court GRANTS Mr. Price's Cross-Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. See ECF No. 25. Accordingly, the Court will issue a declaratory judgment stating that the requirements in 54 U.S.C. § 100905, 43 C.F.R. Part 5, and 36 C.F.R. § 5.5 that those engaged in "commercial filming" must obtain permits and pay fees are unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
After watching this video my wife said "They could do a series on what is just outside of the National Parks". A lot of people cover what's inside of the parks, you could show us the less mentioned towns and byways. This could be a blessing in disguise.
I love that idea too! There are so many small towns around these areas that are so much fun. Really an interesting opportunity to explore the where do I go out to eat, drink, stay, hang out whatever around these beautiful places! That could be a channel all by itself🤔 please someone do that! I’d be a customer 👍 I can think of several places off the top of my head I have visited. Great idea!
I love this because the town Springville right outside of Zion is freaking CUTE. And also, does this whole ordeal count for State Parks?? Because Utah has some incredible state parks.
I don't watch this channel for where you visit. I don't watch it for the drone footage. I watch it because Kara and Nate are two amazing people who share an interesting story with us. Besides, there's plenty of videos of national parks. Bring us the places that we wouldn't otherwise see. Keep up the great work!
Yesssss!! My thoughts exactly. A few months ago I had never heard of Leadville and now I want to visit thanks to them! I am loving all the road less traveled vlogs.
How many vloggers are filming in national parks?? Why were you targeted? So sad. Sorry you guys. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned in filming my vlog, especially this year, it’s that change forces creativity. Can’t wait to see what this minor setback inspires!! ❤️
They were targeted because haters see that they make money from UA-cam and that bothered them damn shame I was really enjoying those videos and planning to visit some of those places
I was thinking the same thing... There's a whole lot of other UA-cam channels doing the same thing and nobody's shutting them out unless they pay or have a special license for using a drone, finding them for doing the same thing!! It's sad 😞
I will never understand why people feel the need to lash out at others who are enjoying their lives. Don't ever let anyone ruin your fun in your travels. You are both wonderful people and two of my favorite content creators. God bless!
Dear K&N, you could turn this around. Reach out to the community and request tips about places that are so beautiful that they could/should have been national parks, then go there and show them to us. I would love to see that.
great idea. any traveler can look up oodles of info on national parks and popular destinations. you've always been great at finding and sharing "the road less traveled" it could make you unique and make you stand out among the sea of typical travelers
I’ll second that! There’s a park near us called Easterlin Park, and we just recently did a video there with our dogs. So many iguanas! Even a friendly baby squirrel that almost came right up to the camera! You guys would love it there - they even have camping!
I almost never comment on videos, but this made me so frustrated. I get that there are rules and regulations. The fact that someone felt the need to report you makes me very upset. A better way to have handled it would have been to contact you and make you aware. Then you could have been proactive in finding out the laws and complying. On the flip side you are some of the most innovative and creative people, I believe you will find a way to continue be adventurous. Hopefully one day we will see this rule changed so that those like you can document our National Parks from a personal perspective. Watching your videos meets a need to explore and adventure that I would never be able to accomplish. So thank you for what you do. If we as your audience can send emails or advocate on your behalf at any time just ask. You have our support.
The National Parks are really shooting themselves in the foot with this one... SO MANY FANS would have watched the videos you guys made in the National Parks and be inspired to make the trip and see it in person. This is really the first time your average American fans have been within reach of whatever location you were showing us. This WAS a great opportunity for The National Parks to get some high-quality, free advertisement. How disappointing. Whoever reported them, what a sad life you must have to go out of your way to hurt people you don't even know.
The National parks in Utah do not need any more advertising- they are incredibly crowded- a friend sent me the picture of bumper to bumper traffic outside of Arches.
The national parks really, REALLY don't need any advertising. They're packed to capacity and then some, and it's been reported on that a lot of people who want to go to the parks can't (or can't go in certain areas/on certain trails) because they're so crowded they have to enter a lottery system to get permitted. What the parks need is funding, which has been cut repeatedly, and that's likely why they're trying to get people like UA-cam influencers - who make a lot of money of the parks - to pay them a fee. I think it makes sense, and it's fair of Kara and Nate to decide not to film there, but just as fair for the parks to fine people who make money off the parks.
@@emchadband5056 Maybe that's what the National Parks system doesn't want everyone that hasn't visited to see, the long line of Chinese business folks standing in line to catch a glimpse of real Americana! In a way, it might reduce the number of visitors to the parks because people will know what to expect.
There was a federal judgement that just came out stating filming on federal land for commercial or personal use is a freedom of expression thus protected under your right of free speech.
Price v. Barr et. al, January 22, 2021: "For the reasons set forth in this Memorandum Opinion, the Court DENIES Defendants’ Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. See ECF No. 18. In turn, the Court GRANTS Mr. Price’s Cross-Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. See ECF No. 25. Accordingly, the Court will issue a declaratory judgment stating that the requirements in 54 U.S.C. § 100905, 43 C.F.R. Part 5, and 36 C.F.R. § 5.5 that those engaged in “commercial filming” must obtain permits and pay fees are unconstitutional under the First Amendment. The Court will also enter a permanent injunction enjoining the permit and fee requirements for commercial filming in 54 U.S.C. § 100905, 43 C.F.R. Part 5, and 36 C.F.R. § 5.5, and enjoining prosecution and the imposition of criminal liability thereunder. In issuing this injunction, the Court observes that a more targeted permitting regime for commercial filming, which is more closely connected to the threat posed by large groups and heavy filming equipment, may pass constitutional muster in the future." Link: law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2019cv03672/213478/36/
I commented with a link to one of the articles regarding this judgement twice, and I'm pretty sure they have deleted my comment both times because I don't see it anymore. Pretty odd. Are they embarrassed because this video now has wrong info, even though they posted it months before the judgement? I don't get it.
These wonderful humans have literally traveled the entire world and had zero complaints yet when they come back to their home country, their creative abilities get hindered. Absolutely heartbreaking because they are inspiring so many people to travel and seek adventure
@@jimmylt109 I’m quite happy actually. I’m sorry you support the misuse of our National Parks, it’s probably best that you stay wherever you are anyway, our parks are abused enough as is.
I am SO sad because the ONE thing I was most looking forward to this year was for you guys visiting US National Parks. Whoever reported you, we’re all cursing their name.
Important to note: I've just read up on the rules for photographing inside a National Park - I'm a photographer and you had me concerned. You need a permit if you have a crew and if you need to have Park Services monitor your activity. Like taking a wedding couple into the park, or a magazine shoot etc. Landscape photography no problem, no permit necessary. So, 1 - consider to be creative with your stills and video storytelling. Second - Commercial Filming is defined in their words as intent to sell the footage. Your work is completely free to me. You are not selling any footage. Remember, you make money because You Tube runs ads and collects information, you are paid for ads - YOU DO NOT SELL YOUR FOOTAGE. You are non commercial people, you are journalists, very different in the legal definitions. Finally, Drones are not allowed anywhere in the National Park, at any time. The FAA license is only required if you intend to SELL YOUR FOOTAGE, or fly your drone for hire. If you aren't doing those things then you do not need an FAA license. I know bureaucracy can be a major pain - however, the person who reported you is wrong in their assessment of your activities.
It isn't intent to sell, it is intent to generate income. They have clearly demonstrated an intent to generate income by monetizing their videos, therefore making it commercial in the eyes of the NPS.
@@MysticalMum68 How so? If you intend to generate income from something you are doing it for commercial purposes. Seems pretty clear and straight forward to me.
More than happy to see and hear that the courts (judge) have ruled it unconstitutional to require permits and to request fees for filming in the national parks! Now hopefully we’ll see some more videos in the future of you two inside of the beautiful national parks that the United States has to offer! 😌
@@megandavis4463 That ruling was unfortunately overturned and it is again illegal for "commercial" filming without a permit. 😥www.nps.gov/aboutus/news/commercial-film-and-photo-permits.htm#:~:text=Under%20federal%20law%2C%20all%20commercial,Park%20System%20requires%20a%20permit.
That dude who reported you must have a sad life, but don't let that person bog you down! Yellowstone is absolutely SPECTACULAR and you guys should absolutely visit!
As a taxpayer I don't mind. Everyone hates paying taxes but parks get so little of it, then for folks to profit off of it. But these guys shouldn't be paying what hollywood pays!!! They should be able to get like an all parks no heavy equipment permit for $500 or a quick at the door permit for like $30 per park. Something that makes it easy. More folks would comply if it was easier!
@@vallen6705 And I wish they’d realize that it’s a channel like this that will bring people to the parks and remind them we have to protect these lands.
The national park service is very strict about commercial filming. However, each park has different rules and it's not necessarily uniform across the board. I did a whole road trip series across the USA last year for a national TV network and I reached out to each park in advance. I didn't visit any of the ones that required a permit haha I only went to the ones that approved us to shoot on property without one.
I just called Big Bend NP and they told us we could film for UA-cam (with ad revenue) as long as we weren’t requiring roads to be shut down, had big props or crazy equipment, etc. They said if it’s just the two of us and our camera we are fine. So I am hopeful that other parks we reach out to will be the same.
As of Jan 25th 2021 national park services aren’t allowed to require permits or to pay a fee for “commercial filming” I hope this makes you guys feel better and national park filmings come back cuz I love them since I don’t have any time what so ever to even visit a park in my city.
Sounds like someone is salty that you guys are doing the work to live your dream, and they are stuck working a miserable job and have to pass their miserableness to others. The FAA part 107 test is pretty easy, so dont worry too much about it!
Yes! While its an official pilot test under the FAA, We only have one course at our college that teaches you all the requirements for it, so it should be a breeze for them!
@vincent james I had no clue what you were talking about, so I threw it into Google and now I might have to take a stupid day trip. In the same kind of vein, I came to visit Seattle once and my family kept hyping up this "Flaming Geyser" state park. Fire shooting out of the ground they told me. I was so excited. We get there, and its literally a finger sized hole in the ground with a BIC sized flame coming out of it.
Incredibly sad. If it's any consolation, i certainly haven't noticed that the drone footage has gone away. The quality of your videos has certainly not dropped at all! Keep at it, best travel vlogers by a mile!
Anyone and everyone write on Instagram to NPCAPICS! And share as much as possible how much Kara and Nate have done for their parks and how wonderful they are. They should be treated as special guests!
You aren’t complaining... you’re explaining an experience that hurt you. Traveling, shooting and sharing the experience is your purpose! It’s what brings you joy! Someone just put a damper on your joy and your living. Thanks for sharing.
Anyone and everyone write on Instagram to NPCAPICS! And share as much as possible how much Kara and Nate have done for their parks and how wonderful they are. They should be treated as special guests!
@@onehappynegro COVID has created tremendous pressure on public parks. They were always crowded, now even more. The reverse of what's happening in cities.
I feel bad for the person who reported you guys. they must have a really sad life to even have the gut feeling to go and ruin something like that for you guys. So sorry.
@@MissAshlee I know a few can ruin it for everyone but Kara and Nate have always been transparent and have always shared the spirit of traveling and recording without infringing on other’s experiences
@@sandiemarie1 im sorry, i didnt realize you were there also. smdh. yall will make any excuses for people you dont know... its just not all that diff from what they do, and it makes them hypocrites to complain
@@MissAshlee so if you go to a national park and take a photo and post it online and boast about how nice it was ect, thats nothing different from them filming it. To me a commercial video is sponsored by the place, has lots of add placements for the place, has non stop bragging about the place, only films the place with high quality cameras and a crew. Kara and Nate are just simple vloggers, yes they may have made money from the video but I doubt its even half the amount people actually make from filming a commercial video, and no they are not hypocrites for complaing they are just saying it that it was unexpected and that it could have blown way out of promotion and for them to film the videos they want to let us enjoy they have to deal with a lot of government issues and guidelines to be able to do so, which would prevent them from posting content for a while, it has also ruined there plans for the year which they have a an excuse to be slightly annoyed about as they had just got there plans for 2020 sorted and have then been told that cant happen anymore, if you where in there situation you would also be slightly upset to know one of your possible subscribers has reported you to the government ect and has gotten you in would could have been jail time. Nobody wants that. you say imagine being there to enjoy nature and being distracted by vloggers who are trying to make a buck, as far as I know I dont think this is there sole income, and I doubt them vlogging about nature and how beautify the place is ect would be that distracting I myself would be happy that people there age are actually enjoying nature and are getting out there and exploring it instead of destroying it. I dont know what over nature type vloggers you have watched but to me if I saw Kara and Nate in nature while i was out I would not be distracted by it. I would only be distracted if they where screaming, running around, jumping on stuff, ect so. complain all you want your opinion is your but if you dont like them doing these videos (making a buck by filming nature ect) then dont watch
@@tamzin-jademckenzie7703 to me, you lose the right to complain about others filming when you do the same. sorry not sorry, stop simping so hard for internet celebrities who do not give a crap about you
It's soooo stupid! It's a bloody FREE advertisement for 1.83 million people! National parks should be glad that there are people advertising them for free. I hope kara and Nate now end up finding way better places and spend time in those places than spending time in those parks. Love you guys❤️
@@veergauba they do... kinda....that's why you see posters or small mentions in the nearby areas(it's advertising). what they don't need is HUGE ads which require huge investments.They should be glad that normal people with fan following are enjoying themselves and advertising them for free.
Simple Solutions: 1. Turn off monetization on all videos relating to any national parks to avoid being targeted as commercial filming 2. Get a DJI Mavic Mini drone since it only weights 249 grams, which you don’t have to register at all to fly Hope this help 👍👍
Completely agree. Plus whenever they traveled before they used to do some research whether drones are allowed or not and they followed it. The fact that they are 'at home' in US does not excuse them from knowing the rules. I also think that the fact that apparently they do not feel "fullfilled and excited' about visiting those unique, wonderful miracle of the nature places that are National Parks of Western USA unless they can film, for me means that they are incapable of appreciating the true beauty of those places. Some people go on few day isolated hike in those places and come back with memories and spiritual strength and calm that they never had - especially in those challenging times this kind of retrospective experience could be very enriching.... but sadly according to Kara and Nate it is clearly not worth it to put down the camera for once in a while.
@@SheIsTristine I completely understand the fact everyone has to make enough to live, but there are always time when we have to give up something for something greater
@@cleo1681 yea how dare they want to film their experience there🙄🙄 not only for this channel, but for themselves and their memories. it really isn’t your place to judge them for deciding not to go bc they can’t film it. i bet if you were in their position you would do the same
The people who report things like this feel empowered by the act of reporting. They are thinking: “I am doing it for the good of the people”. It also gives them a power trip and they feel important.
@@arwong222 I think @youtube needs to support their content creators here. K+N are commercial to a point; it’s more nuanced and thus why UA-cam should support them in fighting this.
as you say, there are alot more important things going on in the World right now. too bad you cannot figure out who it is and ban them from your channel.
I would bet that it was a fellow vlogger and not a casual follower. Some one who was nailed by the same restrictions or had to adjust their vlogging style to accommodate these intrusive laws. They saw KnN (unknowingly I believe) fly past these restrictions and rake in the views and were upset by it. Upset that KnN weren't playing by the rules that every other vlogger has to bend to and is restricted by. Who else would go to all that work to report them to the NPS and FAA citing their income reports as evidence?
@@jwlundgren One of two people would be my bet. A failed UA-camr who is bitter about not being able to support themselves through their channel or one of the do-gooder eco-warriors out there. I'm a big proponent of Leave No Trace, but there are some wackos out there that say people shouldn't be allowed in nature, whose ambition is to save the world from humanity.
I do guided tours at San Luis Rey Mission in North County San Diego. A historic tour of the 21 California Missions starting at Sonoma and going south to San Diego would be awesome too!!!
It's pretty shitty when someone has to ruin a good thing that benefits everyone - we ALL get to live through your videos. Hope you guys can find a resolution to this situation soon
I am so sorry this happened to you guys. Nobody ever deserves to go through what you went through. Just anyways remember that you have so many people supporting you. Keep up the great work! :D
Just think of it as your new goal is to share all these wonderful small towns and businesses that cannot afford to pay large production companies to show off what treasures/experiences they really are! You're now a niche travel channel for the "cool underground experiences". It's just another pivot loves. We'll still watch your content 🥰😘
Professional videomakes, as they are, need special permission i most national parks in Europe. They make money of this, they kan pay some money to the state????
@@marinaxoniki9855 lol, you must be joking right? Or on second thought I agree with you, this craziness of travelblogs in national parks needs to stop. Let's put up a global ban. From now on only travel blogs from boring places should be allowed. Filming in national parks should be reserved to Hollywood studios and TV channels who can wait 5 weeks or more for the wheels of bureaucracy to turn. When I search for "Yellowstone" in youtube i get at least a couple of hundred commercial channels. I expect those videos to be taken down promptly. We only want 1 or 2 videos from Yellowstone max, directed by Jerry Bruckheimer or other hotshots.
I just saw a video stating what happened to you and filming in a NP with the need of permits has been judged unconstitutional. You no longer need permits and can film. Please double check on this.
I totally agree. I am a Canadian, and right now am unable to travel in the US, but once things return to "normal", I do want to travel to the US and see some of the sights from these videos. Such a shame they now can't include the national parks...they are such key features of the US. As you said, the government should be paying Kara and Nate for the advertising of such beautiful places. I was so looking forward to this part of their travels, especially to see Yellowstone and Yosemite. Damn bureaucracy!
Exactly!!! Thats why I posted this “Have you asked the park service or whoever it was that contacted you if they are applying the rules to ALL of the youtubers that post footage of their time in national parks? Also, can they explain to you who reported you and why? Probably not but still they should apply the rules to everyone or not to you alone. If they are unwilling to apply the rules equally then they shouldn’t go after you. Also, you should see if you can get an attorney through legal aid or the ACLU to help you fight the government. And you might consider contacting someone at UA-cam or google because they have a vested interest in fighting the government on this since they have tens of thousands of people on their platform filming in national parks. I went through my list of channels that I subscribe to and literally 80% or more have content they filmed in national parks on their channels and almost 100% of them use drones as well. I’m just saying please dont take this lying down you have options. If not for yourselves then do it for all the other people that could be next. Whatever you choose to do I’m still subscribing right now. Peace be upon you”
@@prepperjonpnw6482 I totally agree with you. The first words that got me to thinking when I started watching this was “we are indeed commercial “ forgive my ignorance: if they’re commercial then doesn’t that mean they’re sponsored, if sponsored, wouldn’t that mean the sponsorships legal team should’ve intervened, if they did not and dissolved themselves from the situation, doesn’t that say a lot about the sponsorship????? Sorry I went there but that was my first thought once I started watching.
Omg!! Thanks alot whoever you are!! Is it not like they are hurting anyone or animals in these parks! Kara and Nate respected park rules, the land, the animals ...and its advertising for the park for free!! Argh!! Sorry that you guys had to go through this! Love yas!
This is exactly what I just said and came here to see what others have said. I just cannot believe that someone could be so cruel and so jealous. Shame on whoever it is that reported this. But Kara and Nate will rock their videos and travels despite all this! We got your back guys!
The rule they are breaking is no commercial filming so it is pretty clear in that sense. Although I do believe the national park rules should be changed to allow a partnership for social media influencers. . It's different but it also isn't. Someone with a film crew could make no money if their film isn't a hit. While someone with a gopro can make thousands of videos off a single video so it really makes no difference the size of the camera. Just playing devil's advocate here but its true in the eyes of the government where they want a way to tax people who profit off something.
I feel so bad for you guys, I get that you want to show us every National Park but to be honest I don't really care where you are! Every video is so much fun. Don't let that one hater bring you down!
@@edselby I don't see how that's a bad thing. Just one drone is incredibly disruptive to wildlife so imagine what that would be like daily. They could totally find other ways to film but I guess they're just not going to go to those parks lol
The National Parks are so heavily written about and vlogged, I see this an opportunity to elevate your content to other topics. Go visit the parks and keep the footage for your personal memories, but vlog the small towns and communities around the parks. We recently visited Glacier National Park. We spent three days in the park, but spent three days in the surrounding communities. Whitefish, Columbia Falls and Hungry Horse had some really cool little spots, and I'm sure the small business owners would be happy to have you. We spent six nights at Moose Creek RV Resort in their Airbnbs, and had the most amazing time & felt a part of someone's family. Most likely wouldn't have had that experience in park accommodations.
This! I hope you guys turn a challenge into an opportunity to be more creative and tell some of the less known stories. And while you're currently not interested in the permit and planning required for National Parks, maybe it wouldn't hurt to go ahead and apply. You might change your mind. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition. You could mix up your content with some more planned excursions one you are properly permitted and also include some of the stories of the surrounding areas in a more freestyle form you are accustomed to following.
@@caitlynwotherspoon2590 Seriously? You've never watched any of their videos? Huh, you must be new. On many of their trips, Kara has _hugged_ and even FLIRTED with non-spousal men. Nate, on the other hand, has never done so with any of the women whom he met on the trip. I'm not sure why Nate is okay with Kara's adulterous behavior, but I can see why enough people complained to get them to shut down.
Well the whole point in this UA-cam thing is to share theirs experiences with others and maybe make other people want to visit there. Just pure bitter!!
@@ChoketheLabel Kara and Nate are free to access the parks. They're not free to film there or fly their drones without proper permits, which are not automatically granted. Instead of looking at the blog through the lens of their camera, visualize yourself in an already jam packed National Park - they are all jammed - confronted at every turn by drones whizzing around you and camera set-ups; guerilla filmmakers staking out optimum spots for the best angles, often on dangerous terrain. MOSTLY on dangerous terrain. You're trying to get from here to there safely and somebody's creating a roadblock ahead of you until they get their shot. For me personally that's a bigger issue than profiting commercially off public property. I wish there were a way to regulate everybody using public land as a personal film set even if it's not for profit. But that is an issue as well. They are public lands and it is an actual issue to use them for personal profit. Believe me, the parks need no advertising/promotion. Not to mention is that the reason people visit national parks, to experience the intense intrusion of other people's film set ups? Not to mention in many places drones are detrimental to wildlife. The noise is disruptive, their presence can be dangerous. The guerilla film crews are always going to stake out the most dangerous, visually exciting, extreme locations and that is problematic for everyone. I live near a famous bridge. Last fall I walked across it, the first time in years, and found it absolutely jam packed with tourists, many of whom left the walking path and crawled onto the girders over the roadway so they could get the best shots. It was extremely difficult to even walk across the thing. Larger film productions are easier to regulate. They have a specific schedule, are supervised and do the work with park service representatives on location with them.
@@jeevesandbertie I see what you're saying about disruptions to natural functions of areas. But, my question was actually referring to your comment the people from "here to Japan" that "will pack the parks," which as you stated are public lands. My issue here is with gatekeeping, your comment implies these parks should be comfy for you, but unavailable to others who may hear about them through creator's content. Or for others who may enjoy the park in a different way than you.
which Karen doesn't have anything to do with her life and decided to harm Kara and Nate, one of the nicest people on UA-cam. With nothing but pure intentions to share their passion for travelling and exploring new places. Lots of love
@@fluffnstuff5773 I heard that the male equivalent of a Karen is a David. It is a perfect fit. My mother in laws name is Karen, and my father in laws name is David.. It is almost poetic.
As a commercial drone pilot myself, I recommend purchasing the Remote Pilot Test Prep 2020 booklet. I bought mine off of Amazon. That's the best resource in my opinion that helped me the most in studying for the exam.
With 85 dislikes on this video, it tells me that people are jealous of your lives. You are a very lovable couple, and capable of great things because you have each other. Pray about some core things, God will guide you. Love, from India.
Your feelings are completely valid! Someone has taken away a big part of your life and how you live it. You can be frustrated! I hope things work out better for you soon!
I wrote to the NPS, asking them to adapt to the times and let you in. After all that you guys have given us, it's the least I can do. Perhaps other members of this growing family could do the same.
It’s the federal government. Their boss’ about to change in 12 weeks. I’m pretty sure people who can make big enough change is busy trying to maximize their money. They should just go to court and create precedence
OMG, I cannot believe someone did that to you! That's a huge bummer for so many reasons, but your loyal and loving fans will love whatever you decide to share with us. You guys are awesome and good people and just move forward from this and do your thing. Much love from a devoted and loyal fan. xoxoxo
Someone may have done it. But end of the day this is goverment rules. Goverment should be updating the laws to account for people like UA-camrs. I assume goverment has not done a thing yet.
It seems JUST to them too. I've watched a lot of hiking videos during COVID and they are all in National parks, including Yellowstone, and many others on the big trails, CDT, PCT, and AT. No one is telling them they can't film and post, and many have as many subscribers and views as Kara and Nate, or more.
The fact that they didn’t just watch the video and dismiss this is hilarious. These types of channels improve tourism.they essentially made a commercial for people to visit these places and did it at no cost to the park itself. Getting a drone license also isn’t that difficult and will actually open up more opportunities for them to make money so as for that, it is what it is.
Whoever reported Kara and Nate is the adult equivalent of the kid who would tell the teacher there was homework due, when the teacher had forgotten. In all seriousness, it continues to surprise me every day how much time people have on their hands that they can go out of their way to ruin someone else’s day. Just wow, I’m sorry guys. Your vlogs have made me want to travel more than ever, and I’ve never really wanted to travel the US before, but I have a desire to explore it now because of you.
Exactly. Get a life, I say. To the jerk who reported them - 🖕 - Kara & Nate, this vid was fun. Do food & drink, town & city vlogs. They will be just as good. Kara, I laughed when you followed Nate in the maze holding up your wine glass ... “coming”. So you!
I find it interesting that these amazing people have travelled all over the world without ever having a problem like this, and when they do it's in their own country. Bad luck guys. Don't let the bad guys win. ( the person that reported you ) Keep smiling, you have an army of fans out there that love your work!
@@giannazelasco1339 who’s bashing? When they are wrong they play the victim. They did this one other time about their 100 country. They led people on and at the last minute decided to charge for it. Now we are suppose to feel sorry for them when they break the law and get fined? The rule of law applies to EVERYONE!
@@donnaspuppyplayandadventur9397 I disagree I feel as though we as humans should appreciate our earth instead of making money off it, though yes the money is sometimes used to help it. Specially with the national park but they did nothing wrong in my eyes they are humans wanting to simply record and they are not damaging the property or anything just as if someone else took out there camera and recorded. Lemme go to a national park real quick and take a picture and post it on my social media. Will I get fined for wanting to show others what I saw that day? Probably which is absolute ridiculous. It’s a way the government just wants to make money off us because we cannot enjoy the earth. They did nothing wrong but people like you like to come at them with all these rules. It’s called letting go and not stressin
@@giannazelasco1339 I disagree. Stating rules and laws is not coming at someone. We have a nation full of people like you that can’t handle the truth and boundaries that include rules and laws. Breaking them is wrong no matter how one wants to spin it or whatever context they want to put it in. Taking a picture and recording for ones memories is one thing. Using the footage for personal gain on a social media that is their main source of income is another and well we know there are permits required. No one is above the law. All they have to do is follow the rules and continue making great content . But, they will withhold that content because they don’t want to follow the rules and comply. In the end that’s both a bad personal and business decision. It’s what business calls a lose, lose proposition.
Nate hit the nail on the head...they're living the dream, and some jealous person who can't stand to see others happy took it upon themselves to try and change that happiness. Well news flash...Kara and Nate are good people, and this will only make them stronger. They're genuinely happy and genuinely good, and the negativity of miserable people can't change that. Keep doing what you're doing, Kara and Nate and we will keep watching, no matter where you go!
I’m so sorry guys. I have a small husband wife UA-cam channel and there’s a very small minority who have the wrong shade of green eyes! Been there! I’m sure whatever you do people will still watch. Keep the faith and Thankyou for all the hard work! ❤️
hey! i've been watching you guys for maybe about 3 years now, and i completely understand your frustration of not being allowed to film. i know you guys capture everything and love sharing your experiences with us, and its okay! we all completely understand the situation you've been taken into, and no need to fright, most of us are here for the journey with you guys!! wherever you go and wherever your heart takes you, we'll be right there supporting you along the way.
Yes the person who reported them is just jealous. They either can't do this or wont go out and do it because they are still in moms basement watching Q channels.
@@skibbydogg You must have reported them. Anyone who thinks that this is commercial video is a moron. Commercial permits are for large production house who need trucks lights and stuff. This is nothing like that this is no different than someone videoing there family on vacation.
National Park Service Can't Require Permits and Fees for Commercial Filming, Judge Rules A D.C. federal judge found it's an unconstitutional content-based restriction on free speech to make filmmakers pay to shoot in national parks just because their work is commercial.
Exactly! I wouldn‘t now about the Sand Dune Natinoal Park if I didn’t watch Kara and Nate. Well...I guess being flexible is not the trait a government authority needs.
I honestly think national parks are so territorial over their land that they don’t like much of anything that is over a certain decibel and close to the lines. I’ve grown up in park since I was an infant and even the rangers are very institutionalized by their passion for their land.
@@princessriley3335 This is very correct. I just visited a bunch of parks and many of the parks are set up to make it as difficult as possible to see the park.
The one thing the National Parks need is LESS advertising. All the vlogs filmed in National Parks are creating massive overcrowding, bumper to bumper traffic, and a Disneyland environment.
Imagine wasting 2 hours of your life reporting UA-camrs just trying to encourage people to explore the outdoors. I don’t understand how a couple filming their experience could be uncomfortable for someone. That’s so stupid.
I think the National Parks should ban drones in the parks. The whiny , mosquito like noise of drones is obnoxious and goes against the idea that people are visiting the wilderness/natural world in the parks and it is rude to disturb it.
They are jealous of your success!! They don't get the hard work you put in making each video from shooting to editing. I was lucky to spend a few hours with you and could understand how things were shot and then how much time you must have spent cutting each shot and putting it together. While watching the video, no one can get what all you have to do get all the shots together. However, we all are here supporting and watching your videos. Whether drone shot or no drone shot, national parks or no national parks, we love what you do and will be here watching your videos.
And someone could just report the 2 in that restaurant right then and there. Just because and they'll tell it as if they both are criminals. IT'S THAT DUMB.
When one door closes another opens. This is a huge change right now to your channel, and a lot more work put on you guys. However, you will learn so much from this, take different roads/paths that you may not have taken otherwise and meet people that perhaps you never would have. SO We really dislike the person that did this, and honestly hope they find some happiness outside of the miserable hole they've dug for themselves (because let's not lower ourselves to their level) ) but also thank you because Kara and Nate will only grow from this and show us how resourceful, creative and amazing they can truly be! (though we already knew). Best of luck to you guys, you can only go up from here! I can't wait to see how you kick the butt of these issues! May I also add, that food and wine reviews are a new bonus; Wouldn't mind more of these! or Halloween things! :)
RULE OF MAZES!!!!! Always keep the same hand on the wall and you will find your way out. The reason is if the same hand never leaves the wall then it will never go over the same spot twice so you will eventually make your way out. Not usually the fastest but it works.
So disappointing! My husband and I are in our 70s and 80s we’re so looking forward to this, especially cents we would not be able to do all the national parks, or until Covid goes away any traveling.
I’m really sorry to hear someone had to stoop so low to make creating content more difficult for you guys! I really enjoy your videos and they have served as a source on inspiration for me so thanks for making great content regardless! Will continue to always watch and follow!
Don't feel bad about being frustrated about this! We all completely understand how annoying and frustrating it would be for you guys. I was looking forward to your Park content, but I think i speak for everyone when I say we'll all still be here even if you aren't going to parks! We support you 1000% and are hoping this turns around in your guy's favor
I like this channel but everybody who is jumping at bashing the national Park service should understand that there is very much a second side to the story. I have worked in the national parks for 13 years. The emergence of smaller commercial entities such as UA-cam film channels has resulted in an explosion of filming and drone use in the national parks. Drone use in particular has been highly problematic because it represents both a danger to unplanned search and rescue flights, the general public and established scenic over flights. Additionally, drone use results in noise pollution. Without a special use permit join use it is illegal to fly a drone in every single US national Park. Those of us who have devoted our lives to the park system and conservation have seen the detrimental impacts of increased commercial use within the parks. I understand the frustration but please understand the side of the national Park service in this issue as well.
While the national parks are amazing, as someone who has travelled a lot in the US, the state parks are amazing, and under visited. I was actually a little sad when Great sand dunes became a national park, because now a lot of people visit it. So there is a TON for you to see without hitting national parks.
State parks are so underrated! Also the areas just outside the national park borders are usually pretty amazing. I still wouldn't skip the parks if I were them, but I'm an NP lover so that's just me
Take a listen to this UA-camr "UA-camr Rules for Filming in a National Park (UA-camr Law Series)" Not sure if he's a JD, but he says unless you license your film, it's not commercial use. I hope he's right. We all watch you for the travel; not for the specific location.
Sounds like someone is jealous of your success. I’ll watch whatever ya’ll post because I like you and I also feel happy watching your happiness, adventure and experiences.
most people get 2 weeks off, the rest of the time they sit in traffic for 2 hours a day, get yelled at. The national parks allow anybody to have access to nature for $10 a day. When they arrive there, they do not want to see a filming crew that left all their garbage behind, that cut down a tree for a better shot. That used to happen a lot. Hence the rules. And national parks are so so so overcrowded now.
I have a feeling when someone at the National Park service gets wind of this they will make an exception for you. I suggest you provide your many followers with a National Parks phone number or email address that we can use to express our support for you. In reality they should be paying you for promoting our National Parks.
It's a shame that they'll be missing so many great parks but I doubt reaching out to NPS will help. For one thing, it's the federal government. Everything is rigidly regulated and federal employees usually do not have the discretion to grant waivers and exceptions. Also, the major National Parks don't really need to be promoted. For the big ones like Yellowstone or Yosemite if you want to stay in the park in an RV or a hotel you often need to book the lodging over a year in advance.
If the actual park they filmed at says it’s ok. They need to question what’s happening. Scammers are very scary threatening and convincing. Because they act like they know so much. I hope they don’t give sensitive information to the caller.
As a Northern Colorado Native and a former tourism worker in Estes Park, I am so sorry this happened to you! There are many people up there that are aweful and report nice humans for dumb shit. I appreciate your travel vlogs because you are very respectful and responsible in your travel and filming.
@@emmaclaire17 they got in trouble for filming in general, as they make money from it. I agree that no one should drone in NP as it's illegal. As far as I know, any drone footage they had from a park was obtained from someone else
Keep your chins up !!! We are all loyal fans 🥰. I’m excited to see what you guys come up with. We visit the states. Two weeks a year. To explore a new area. The national parks wouldn’t be my first choice. Everyone goes there. Looking forward to taking some notes on what we should check out
I’m glad y’all told us bc I have been wondering.. and it’s not complaining it’s sharing what is going on in your lives with your viewers and it’s not always going to be pretty..
Kara and Nate I am a retired Federal worker. Always appeal any decision. Yes it takes time but an Appeal Officer looks at the case with fresh eyes and has a lot of leeway to resolve. Ask your person about your appeal rights. So sorry this has happened.
Yes! What they said. I think this is an example of government rules not keeping up with the times. Probably dated regulations that didn't consider youtube.
Same. Always Appeal!!
Everyone should like this comment so Kara and Nate can see it.
@@sarahc8370 you’re provably right. And our beautiful parks need patrons to visit & support them, yet they’ve chosen to turn away some incredible free advertising.
Came to say this!!!!
It sucks for you guys but I actually feel sorry for who ever reported you, because they must have a sad and lonely life.
If we knew who they were, they would be even lonelier!
Just sad, absolutely disgusting low class shame. Probably a young You Tuber can't get viewership and traction since Kara and Nate do such an awesome job, and put into man hours and dedication to perfect their craft.
@@markapuan exactly. a bitter, envious, resentful narcissist who feels like others' accomplishments highlight their lack of achievements and so they lash out at the successful people instead of ever getting the help they need. f**ing pathetic
Well, That Is Wrong!
You are The Best Advertisement!
Dear US Park Service - We love Kara and Nate!
Come tour the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. There is so much beauty.
I am a pilot myself and all you need is for a CFI to sign off on that part 107 application and youll recieve the licence, i have it myself and would love to walk you through the steps to get it!
up vote this
Yes Alex, you legend.. Everyone must up vote you.
Yes please!
You rock Alex!
Yes!!!
Someone was obviously jealous of y’all living y’all’s greatest life. Y’all’s videos make people happy and most importantly y’all happy!
Say y’all one more time…..
Y'all just live y'all best life n capture it n share with the world. Just like a parent captured their kids milestones n share them. So who ever reported y'all videos and also reported y'all to the faa is a very jealous person because y'all saves y'all money n now are full time travelers
Literally got so annoyed that y’all was said so much. 😂😂
i would like to PUNCH the person who reported them
Yeah, Someone was jealous!
I can't imagine your frustration but if it's any consolation... all of us loyal subscribers are here just because we genuinely love your energy and excitement. So it doesn't matter what you're doing or where you're going, as long as it's you both doing something that you love, we'll be more than happy to come along for the ride 💖
@Review Monkey obviously they are or else they wouldn’t have posted this video!!!!🤦🏼♀️
Will follow where ever they go❤️❤️❤️🍻
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Whoever called the government on you guys (apparently a viewer of the channel) is the same person to remind their teacher to collect the homework if they forgot to collect it.
AHHAHA why is this sooo accurate
YES
Someone is really jealous.
😂 😂 😂 I agree!
Omg this is underrated
Kara & Nate, one thing you could continue to focus on is mini-docs about small towns in America that no one would ever know of. What are their interests, how do they operate on a small scale, what are their religious & political backgrounds, etc. Could be a really eye-opening experience to show how diverse and dynamic our country is, especially in a time of such clear divide. Regardless, you're gonna make it work and make all of us happy!
Edit: wow, glad to see so many people agree! Tl;dr - anyone can visit national parks, but only experienced storytellers like Kara and Nate traveling the country in a van can tell us stories we’ve never seen or could experience.
thats a really cool idea!! I second this!
I was just thinking about that too.
Yes!!! I commented on this same thing! I totally agree :)
I love this, idea. But also most national park tons have a ton of sites and experiences that aren't part of the national park and should be video friendly. I think about like Hatch rock in Moab and looking glass point, less busy and WAY more interesting than arches!
@@JennaBrown thanks! The way I see it, anyone can go to a national park. But if you’re gonna live in a van exploring America, show us parts that we’d never know!
Your prayers have been answered 🙏
Civil Action No. 19-3672
You can now film in National Parks with out a permit!
Really??!
@@chelseamunroe In turn, the Court GRANTS Mr. Price's Cross-Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. See ECF No. 25. Accordingly, the Court will issue a declaratory judgment stating that the requirements in 54 U.S.C. § 100905, 43 C.F.R. Part 5, and 36 C.F.R. § 5.5 that those engaged in "commercial filming" must obtain permits and pay fees are unconstitutional under the First Amendment.
Fantastic! That Civil Action made for an entertaining reading. Thanks for pointing it out.
Thank you so much for posting this. Very useful information for anyone that might be looking into making great video of the National Parks.
Good! Because it made no sense paying for “commercial filming “ when you’re just hiking and vlogging in one camera 🙄
After watching this video my wife said "They could do a series on what is just outside of the National Parks". A lot of people cover what's inside of the parks, you could show us the less mentioned towns and byways. This could be a blessing in disguise.
Love that idea!
I love that idea too! There are so many small towns around these areas that are so much fun. Really an interesting opportunity to explore the where do I go out to eat, drink, stay, hang out whatever around these beautiful places! That could be a channel all by itself🤔 please someone do that! I’d be a customer 👍 I can think of several places off the top of my head I have visited. Great idea!
I totally agree! There are a lot of hidden gems in the US that aren't controlled by the government that many would love to learn more about.
I love this because the town Springville right outside of Zion is freaking CUTE. And also, does this whole ordeal count for State Parks?? Because Utah has some incredible state parks.
Awesome idea!!
I don't watch this channel for where you visit. I don't watch it for the drone footage. I watch it because Kara and Nate are two amazing people who share an interesting story with us. Besides, there's plenty of videos of national parks. Bring us the places that we wouldn't otherwise see. Keep up the great work!
Yes yes YES! NPs have been done to death! I enjoyed the corn maze more than I would ANOTHER you tuber in Zion.
Well sayed
Yesssss!! My thoughts exactly. A few months ago I had never heard of Leadville and now I want to visit thanks to them! I am loving all the road less traveled vlogs.
Love the comment my dude.
You make awesome points!!!
How many vloggers are filming in national parks?? Why were you targeted? So sad. Sorry you guys. But if there’s one thing I’ve learned in filming my vlog, especially this year, it’s that change forces creativity. Can’t wait to see what this minor setback inspires!! ❤️
They were targeted because haters see that they make money from UA-cam and that bothered them damn shame I was really enjoying those videos and planning to visit some of those places
I was thinking the same thing... There's a whole lot of other UA-cam channels doing the same thing and nobody's shutting them out unless they pay or have a special license for using a drone, finding them for doing the same thing!! It's sad 😞
So true❤️
This channel is one of the biggest, so of course they will be targeted.
People are jealous of their success is why they turn them in. bad people Karma will get them
I will never understand why people feel the need to lash out at others who are enjoying their lives. Don't ever let anyone ruin your fun in your travels. You are both wonderful people and two of my favorite content creators. God bless!
Dear K&N, you could turn this around. Reach out to the community and request tips about places that are so beautiful that they could/should have been national parks, then go there and show them to us. I would love to see that.
What a great idea
Yes that is a really great idea. Those hidden gems that know one knows about.
great idea. any traveler can look up oodles of info on national parks and popular destinations. you've always been great at finding and sharing "the road less traveled" it could make you unique and make you stand out among the sea of typical travelers
Does the same ban apply to STate parks?
I’ll second that! There’s a park near us called Easterlin Park, and we just recently did a video there with our dogs. So many iguanas! Even a friendly baby squirrel that almost came right up to the camera! You guys would love it there - they even have camping!
I almost never comment on videos, but this made me so frustrated. I get that there are rules and regulations. The fact that someone felt the need to report you makes me very upset. A better way to have handled it would have been to contact you and make you aware. Then you could have been proactive in finding out the laws and complying.
On the flip side you are some of the most innovative and creative people, I believe you will find a way to continue be adventurous. Hopefully one day we will see this rule changed so that those like you can document our National Parks from a personal perspective. Watching your videos meets a need to explore and adventure that I would never be able to accomplish. So thank you for what you do. If we as your audience can send emails or advocate on your behalf at any time just ask. You have our support.
EXACTLY THIS! That is how you know it was some bitter devious person with malicious intent...A Karen!
They can talk what they want but they are very commercial.
Yes! This!!!!
Indeed ! This wouldve been a great way to deal with it , (A puny person , a nit picker who sounds like hes had a sad no-life)
Seriously! Do they even watch Karen and nate? Third channel would be such a benefit to these parks literally would bring in tourism
The National Parks are really shooting themselves in the foot with this one... SO MANY FANS would have watched the videos you guys made in the National Parks and be inspired to make the trip and see it in person. This is really the first time your average American fans have been within reach of whatever location you were showing us. This WAS a great opportunity for The National Parks to get some high-quality, free advertisement. How disappointing.
Whoever reported them, what a sad life you must have to go out of your way to hurt people you don't even know.
The National parks in Utah do not need any more advertising- they are incredibly crowded- a friend sent me the picture of bumper to bumper traffic outside of Arches.
maybe yall can get the National Park system to sponsor you and then you would be "officially" advertising for them. Just a thought!!!
The national parks really, REALLY don't need any advertising. They're packed to capacity and then some, and it's been reported on that a lot of people who want to go to the parks can't (or can't go in certain areas/on certain trails) because they're so crowded they have to enter a lottery system to get permitted. What the parks need is funding, which has been cut repeatedly, and that's likely why they're trying to get people like UA-cam influencers - who make a lot of money of the parks - to pay them a fee. I think it makes sense, and it's fair of Kara and Nate to decide not to film there, but just as fair for the parks to fine people who make money off the parks.
@@emchadband5056 Maybe that's what the National Parks system doesn't want everyone that hasn't visited to see, the long line of Chinese business folks standing in line to catch a glimpse of real Americana! In a way, it might reduce the number of visitors to the parks because people will know what to expect.
I'm glad that the national parks don't allow hundreds of drones to fly all around them.
There was a federal judgement that just came out stating filming on federal land for commercial or personal use is a freedom of expression thus protected under your right of free speech.
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Price v. Barr et. al, January 22, 2021: "For the reasons set forth in this Memorandum Opinion, the Court DENIES Defendants’ Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. See ECF No. 18. In turn, the Court GRANTS Mr. Price’s Cross-Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings. See ECF No. 25. Accordingly, the Court will issue a declaratory judgment stating that the requirements in 54 U.S.C. § 100905, 43 C.F.R. Part 5, and 36 C.F.R. § 5.5 that those engaged in “commercial filming” must obtain permits and pay fees are unconstitutional under the First Amendment. The Court will also enter a permanent injunction enjoining the permit and fee requirements for commercial filming in 54 U.S.C. § 100905, 43 C.F.R. Part 5, and 36 C.F.R. § 5.5, and enjoining prosecution and the imposition of criminal liability thereunder. In issuing this injunction, the Court observes that a more targeted permitting regime for commercial filming, which is more closely connected to the threat posed by large groups and heavy filming equipment, may pass constitutional muster in the future."
Link: law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/district-of-columbia/dcdce/1:2019cv03672/213478/36/
I sure hope Nate has read this.
Not true, unless you have the proper permits.
I commented with a link to one of the articles regarding this judgement twice, and I'm pretty sure they have deleted my comment both times because I don't see it anymore. Pretty odd. Are they embarrassed because this video now has wrong info, even though they posted it months before the judgement? I don't get it.
These wonderful humans have literally traveled the entire world and had zero complaints yet when they come back to their home country, their creative abilities get hindered. Absolutely heartbreaking because they are inspiring so many people to travel and seek adventure
Well hopefully they followed the rules in other countries - where consequences of not can be more dire
Follow the law
This is exactly why me and most people I know have no interest at all in travelling to America. Nothing but covid, guns and idiots. What a mix!!
@@davidperkaski5972 What a sad person you are.
@@jimmylt109 I’m quite happy actually. I’m sorry you support the misuse of our National Parks, it’s probably best that you stay wherever you are anyway, our parks are abused enough as is.
I am SO sad because the ONE thing I was most looking forward to this year was for you guys visiting US National Parks.
Whoever reported you, we’re all cursing their name.
kill joys...that's what they are...horrible people...this couple should be left alone to share their experiences as they see fit!
Losers with no life!!!
Important to note: I've just read up on the rules for photographing inside a National Park - I'm a photographer and you had me concerned. You need a permit if you have a crew and if you need to have Park Services monitor your activity. Like taking a wedding couple into the park, or a magazine shoot etc. Landscape photography no problem, no permit necessary. So, 1 - consider to be creative with your stills and video storytelling. Second - Commercial Filming is defined in their words as intent to sell the footage. Your work is completely free to me. You are not selling any footage. Remember, you make money because You Tube runs ads and collects information, you are paid for ads - YOU DO NOT SELL YOUR FOOTAGE. You are non commercial people, you are journalists, very different in the legal definitions. Finally, Drones are not allowed anywhere in the National Park, at any time. The FAA license is only required if you intend to SELL YOUR FOOTAGE, or fly your drone for hire. If you aren't doing those things then you do not need an FAA license. I know bureaucracy can be a major pain - however, the person who reported you is wrong in their assessment of your activities.
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It isn't intent to sell, it is intent to generate income. They have clearly demonstrated an intent to generate income by monetizing their videos, therefore making it commercial in the eyes of the NPS.
@@bradleyboyer4142 sadly sounds like a convenient interpretation of the laws if you ask me
@@MysticalMum68 How so? If you intend to generate income from something you are doing it for commercial purposes. Seems pretty clear and straight forward to me.
@@camhabibi2217 Journalist do have to get paid somehow, and their income comes from the sales of their product,
More than happy to see and hear that the courts (judge) have ruled it unconstitutional to require permits and to request fees for filming in the national parks! Now hopefully we’ll see some more videos in the future of you two inside of the beautiful national parks that the United States has to offer! 😌
Do Kara and Nate know this?
@@megandavis4463 That ruling was unfortunately overturned and it is again illegal for "commercial" filming without a permit. 😥www.nps.gov/aboutus/news/commercial-film-and-photo-permits.htm#:~:text=Under%20federal%20law%2C%20all%20commercial,Park%20System%20requires%20a%20permit.
@megandavis4463 Yes they fought it and won.
That dude who reported you must have a sad life, but don't let that person bog you down! Yellowstone is absolutely SPECTACULAR and you guys should absolutely visit!
Dark and jealous souls who reported. Keep being your shining happy selves that’s why we enjoy watching.
As a taxpayer I don't mind. Everyone hates paying taxes but parks get so little of it, then for folks to profit off of it. But these guys shouldn't be paying what hollywood pays!!! They should be able to get like an all parks no heavy equipment permit for $500 or a quick at the door permit for like $30 per park. Something that makes it easy. More folks would comply if it was easier!
@@vallen6705 And I wish they’d realize that it’s a channel like this that will bring people to the parks and remind them we have to protect these lands.
@@melaniegentry4813 yup. People realize this thing but not for jealous person smh
The national park service is very strict about commercial filming. However, each park has different rules and it's not necessarily uniform across the board. I did a whole road trip series across the USA last year for a national TV network and I reached out to each park in advance. I didn't visit any of the ones that required a permit haha I only went to the ones that approved us to shoot on property without one.
I hope Kara and Nate see this!
Bump - hopefully Kara and Nate sees your comment.
I just called Big Bend NP and they told us we could film for UA-cam (with ad revenue) as long as we weren’t requiring roads to be shut down, had big props or crazy equipment, etc. They said if it’s just the two of us and our camera we are fine. So I am hopeful that other parks we reach out to will be the same.
Hopefully they see this!!
Thank you for the information!
As of Jan 25th 2021 national park services aren’t allowed to require permits or to pay a fee for “commercial filming” I hope this makes you guys feel better and national park filmings come back cuz I love them since I don’t have any time what so ever to even visit a park in my city.
Sounds like someone is salty that you guys are doing the work to live your dream, and they are stuck working a miserable job and have to pass their miserableness to others. The FAA part 107 test is pretty easy, so dont worry too much about it!
Also, if you guys make your way towards Seattle after Oregon, let me know! Can point you to some great places!
My thoughts exactly!
Yes! While its an official pilot test under the FAA, We only have one course at our college that teaches you all the requirements for it, so it should be a breeze for them!
@vincent james I had no clue what you were talking about, so I threw it into Google and now I might have to take a stupid day trip. In the same kind of vein, I came to visit Seattle once and my family kept hyping up this "Flaming Geyser" state park. Fire shooting out of the ground they told me. I was so excited. We get there, and its literally a finger sized hole in the ground with a BIC sized flame coming out of it.
The thing is tho your not complaining, your just telling us what happened! But it’s ok! Your vids will be just as good!
It was definitely you that reported AHAHA
@@matheusnobrepriosti6760 haha nobody care about Kara
RIDICULOUS
Does anyone else think they just got scammed out of 1000 dollars ?
Yes they will be just as good!!
Incredibly sad. If it's any consolation, i certainly haven't noticed that the drone footage has gone away. The quality of your videos has certainly not dropped at all! Keep at it, best travel vlogers by a mile!
Anyone and everyone write on Instagram to NPCAPICS! And share as much as possible how much Kara and Nate have done for their parks and how wonderful they are. They should be treated as special guests!
@@bethengelhart9039 SOOO TRUE
I legitimately cannot watch Kara crying. It burns my heart 😔
You aren’t complaining... you’re explaining an experience that hurt you. Traveling, shooting and sharing the experience is your purpose! It’s what brings you joy! Someone just put a damper on your joy and your living. Thanks for sharing.
Sounds like the person who reported you needs to find a life. Just saying.
It would have happened sooner or later anyway..
But why would permits take weeks to get in 2020. Rules were written long before UA-cam.
Seconded. I guess when you're as successful as K&N you have a lot of people trying to drag you down
Anyone and everyone write on Instagram to NPCAPICS! And share as much as possible how much Kara and Nate have done for their parks and how wonderful they are. They should be treated as special guests!
100%! lol
@@onehappynegro COVID has created tremendous pressure on public parks. They were always crowded, now even more. The reverse of what's happening in cities.
Just so you know: I will always watch your channel no matter if you can't film national parks or not. You will always make my day.
I feel bad for the person who reported you guys. they must have a really sad life to even have the gut feeling to go and ruin something like that for you guys. So sorry.
imagine the people trying to enjoy nature being overwhelmed by vloggers tryna make a buck? eh
@@MissAshlee I know a few can ruin it for everyone but Kara and Nate have always been transparent and have always shared the spirit of traveling and recording without infringing on other’s experiences
@@sandiemarie1 im sorry, i didnt realize you were there also. smdh. yall will make any excuses for people you dont know... its just not all that diff from what they do, and it makes them hypocrites to complain
@@MissAshlee so if you go to a national park and take a photo and post it online and boast about how nice it was ect, thats nothing different from them filming it. To me a commercial video is sponsored by the place, has lots of add placements for the place, has non stop bragging about the place, only films the place with high quality cameras and a crew.
Kara and Nate are just simple vloggers, yes they may have made money from the video but I doubt its even half the amount people actually make from filming a commercial video, and no they are not hypocrites for complaing they are just saying it that it was unexpected and that it could have blown way out of promotion and for them to film the videos they want to let us enjoy they have to deal with a lot of government issues and guidelines to be able to do so, which would prevent them from posting content for a while, it has also ruined there plans for the year which they have a an excuse to be slightly annoyed about as they had just got there plans for 2020 sorted and have then been told that cant happen anymore, if you where in there situation you would also be slightly upset to know one of your possible subscribers has reported you to the government ect and has gotten you in would could have been jail time. Nobody wants that.
you say imagine being there to enjoy nature and being distracted by vloggers who are trying to make a buck, as far as I know I dont think this is there sole income, and I doubt them vlogging about nature and how beautify the place is ect would be that distracting I myself would be happy that people there age are actually enjoying nature and are getting out there and exploring it instead of destroying it. I dont know what over nature type vloggers you have watched but to me if I saw Kara and Nate in nature while i was out I would not be distracted by it. I would only be distracted if they where screaming, running around, jumping on stuff, ect so. complain all you want your opinion is your but if you dont like them doing these videos (making a buck by filming nature ect) then dont watch
@@tamzin-jademckenzie7703 to me, you lose the right to complain about others filming when you do the same. sorry not sorry, stop simping so hard for internet celebrities who do not give a crap about you
It's soooo stupid! It's a bloody FREE advertisement for 1.83 million people!
National parks should be glad that there are people advertising them for free.
I hope kara and Nate now end up finding way better places and spend time in those places than spending time in those parks.
Love you guys❤️
the video title "Why we don't visit national parks" probably does more damage to NPS than their actual UA-cam vlogs do!
National Parks aren't a commercial service, they don't need advertising!
@@corallife IKRRRRR!
@@veergauba they do... kinda....that's why you see posters or small mentions in the nearby areas(it's advertising). what they don't need is HUGE ads which require huge investments.They should be glad that normal people with fan following are enjoying themselves and advertising them for free.
@@veergauba also why does it sound like you were the one who reported them?😂 Jk..have a good day
Simple Solutions:
1. Turn off monetization on all videos relating to any national parks to avoid being targeted as commercial filming
2. Get a DJI Mavic Mini drone since it only weights 249 grams, which you don’t have to register at all to fly
Hope this help 👍👍
Completely agree. Plus whenever they traveled before they used to do some research whether drones are allowed or not and they followed it. The fact that they are 'at home' in US does not excuse them from knowing the rules. I also think that the fact that apparently they do not feel "fullfilled and excited' about visiting those unique, wonderful miracle of the nature places that are National Parks of Western USA unless they can film, for me means that they are incapable of appreciating the true beauty of those places. Some people go on few day isolated hike in those places and come back with memories and spiritual strength and calm that they never had - especially in those challenging times this kind of retrospective experience could be very enriching.... but sadly according to Kara and Nate it is clearly not worth it to put down the camera for once in a while.
This is how they survive. The money they make from these videos allows them to actually keep traveling and making these videos.
@@SheIsTristine I completely understand the fact everyone has to make enough to live, but there are always time when we have to give up something for something greater
@@cleo1681 yea how dare they want to film their experience there🙄🙄 not only for this channel, but for themselves and their memories. it really isn’t your place to judge them for deciding not to go bc they can’t film it. i bet if you were in their position you would do the same
The 249g rule doesn’t exempt the need for a remote pilot certificate for commercial use, it just means you don’t have to register the hardware.
Really discouraged by the person who reported yall. Like, why! Keep moving forward and we’ll be here for y’all no matter what.
The people who report things like this feel empowered by the act of reporting. They are thinking: “I am doing it for the good of the people”. It also gives them a power trip and they feel important.
@@arwong222 I think @youtube needs to support their content creators here. K+N are commercial to a point; it’s more nuanced and thus why UA-cam should support them in fighting this.
You two obviously put a lot of thought in preparing this response and you did exceptional - very professional!
The person that reported really had to much time on their hands. Like who does that. It's just very petty.
as you say, there are alot more important things going on in the World right now. too bad you cannot figure out who it is and ban them from your channel.
I would bet that it was a fellow vlogger and not a casual follower. Some one who was nailed by the same restrictions or had to adjust their vlogging style to accommodate these intrusive laws. They saw KnN (unknowingly I believe) fly past these restrictions and rake in the views and were upset by it. Upset that KnN weren't playing by the rules that every other vlogger has to bend to and is restricted by. Who else would go to all that work to report them to the NPS and FAA citing their income reports as evidence?
Yeah very sad and pathetic
I did it and it feels good to bust people for breaking the law
@@jwlundgren One of two people would be my bet. A failed UA-camr who is bitter about not being able to support themselves through their channel or one of the do-gooder eco-warriors out there. I'm a big proponent of Leave No Trace, but there are some wackos out there that say people shouldn't be allowed in nature, whose ambition is to save the world from humanity.
There’s so much to see without national parks. I would love a series driving down highway 1 from the redwoods to San Diego!
And a trip back East on Rt 66!
When you make it to San Diego be sure to check out Ocean Beach! Azucar is the BEST cuban patisserie. Also, Sunset Cliffs and Point Loma. Obviously.
I can tell you're from norcal because we call it PCH in socal
I do guided tours at San Luis Rey Mission in North County San Diego. A historic tour of the 21 California Missions starting at Sonoma and going south to San Diego would be awesome too!!!
ua-cam.com/video/KMPEnq8F58k/v-deo.html
It's pretty shitty when someone has to ruin a good thing that benefits everyone - we ALL get to live through your videos. Hope you guys can find a resolution to this situation soon
I am so sorry this happened to you guys. Nobody ever deserves to go through what you went through. Just anyways remember that you have so many people supporting you. Keep up the great work! :D
Just think of it as your new goal is to share all these wonderful small towns and businesses that cannot afford to pay large production companies to show off what treasures/experiences they really are! You're now a niche travel channel for the "cool underground experiences". It's just another pivot loves. We'll still watch your content 🥰😘
Why do people go out of their way to hurt other people? So sad.
Jelliousy, in one word! This person wishes they had this life.
Funny thing is, this person is too lazy to actually do the work to achieve this...
KEATH POLYAK I doubt it is just laziness...probably some mental health issues as well
Solution: ship your van to Europe and do van life in here! Most of the governments will pay you to do vlogs on their national parks 😁
Yup or head to Mexico & South America
US passports are pretty much useless right now
We loved loved vanlife throughout Europe and north Africa.😁
Professional videomakes, as they are, need special permission i most national parks in Europe. They make money of this, they kan pay some money to the state????
@@marinaxoniki9855 lol, you must be joking right? Or on second thought I agree with you, this craziness of travelblogs in national parks needs to stop. Let's put up a global ban. From now on only travel blogs from boring places should be allowed. Filming in national parks should be reserved to Hollywood studios and TV channels who can wait 5 weeks or more for the wheels of bureaucracy to turn. When I search for "Yellowstone" in youtube i get at least a couple of hundred commercial channels. I expect those videos to be taken down promptly. We only want 1 or 2 videos from Yellowstone max, directed by Jerry Bruckheimer or other hotshots.
I just saw a video stating what happened to you and filming in a NP with the need of permits has been judged unconstitutional. You no longer need permits and can film. Please double check on this.
Imagine having such an uneventful life that you report this super nice couple to the National Parks Service and FAA.
Whoever caused this problem is someone who is very jealous of your success, they clearly lead a very boring life !!
The government should paying you to film the national parks- your videos make people want to visit
RIGHT
Truth
I totally agree. I am a Canadian, and right now am unable to travel in the US, but once things return to "normal", I do want to travel to the US and see some of the sights from these videos. Such a shame they now can't include the national parks...they are such key features of the US. As you said, the government should be paying Kara and Nate for the advertising of such beautiful places. I was so looking forward to this part of their travels, especially to see Yellowstone and Yosemite. Damn bureaucracy!
USA Fed Government = Mr. Krabs (MONEY MONEY MONEY.)
YESSSS IDK WHY THE GOVERNMENT THINK SUCH A JERK
Whats really sad is that the person that told on you, just wanted to mess you up
and never cared about the parks...........
If this was enforced widely, most RV channels would cease to exist.
That is so true!
Exactly!!! Thats why I posted this
“Have you asked the park service or whoever it was that contacted you if they are applying the rules to ALL of the youtubers that post footage of their time in national parks? Also, can they explain to you who reported you and why? Probably not but still they should apply the rules to everyone or not to you alone. If they are unwilling to apply the rules equally then they shouldn’t go after you. Also, you should see if you can get an attorney through legal aid or the ACLU to help you fight the government. And you might consider contacting someone at UA-cam or google because they have a vested interest in fighting the government on this since they have tens of thousands of people on their platform filming in national parks. I went through my list of channels that I subscribe to and literally 80% or more have content they filmed in national parks on their channels and almost 100% of them use drones as well. I’m just saying please dont take this lying down you have options. If not for yourselves then do it for all the other people that could be next.
Whatever you choose to do I’m still subscribing right now.
Peace be upon you”
I hope they read my comments
Exactly what I was thinking
@@prepperjonpnw6482 I totally agree with you. The first words that got me to thinking when I started watching this was “we are indeed commercial “ forgive my ignorance: if they’re commercial then doesn’t that mean they’re sponsored, if sponsored, wouldn’t that mean the sponsorships legal team should’ve intervened, if they did not and dissolved themselves from the situation, doesn’t that say a lot about the sponsorship????? Sorry I went there but that was my first thought once I started watching.
Omg!! Thanks alot whoever you are!! Is it not like they are hurting anyone or animals in these parks! Kara and Nate respected park rules, the land, the animals ...and its advertising for the park for free!! Argh!! Sorry that you guys had to go through this! Love yas!
im with you on this - free advertising for other paying visitors !!!!!
This is exactly what I just said and came here to see what others have said. I just cannot believe that someone could be so cruel and so jealous. Shame on whoever it is that reported this. But Kara and Nate will rock their videos and travels despite all this! We got your back guys!
@@alistairross5360 rule is for all..... Law is law
Exactly! They’re not breaking rules and not getting in the way! Why would anyone report them like this? 🤬🤬
The rule they are breaking is no commercial filming so it is pretty clear in that sense. Although I do believe the national park rules should be changed to allow a partnership for social media influencers. . It's different but it also isn't. Someone with a film crew could make no money if their film isn't a hit. While someone with a gopro can make thousands of videos off a single video so it really makes no difference the size of the camera. Just playing devil's advocate here but its true in the eyes of the government where they want a way to tax people who profit off something.
I feel so bad for you guys, I get that you want to show us every National Park but to be honest I don't really care where you are! Every video is so much fun. Don't let that one hater bring you down!
Good news that those restrictions have been struck down by the courts. Can't wait to see your National Park tour!
Still can't fly a drone in National Parks
@@edselby I don't see how that's a bad thing. Just one drone is incredibly disruptive to wildlife so imagine what that would be like daily. They could totally find other ways to film but I guess they're just not going to go to those parks lol
The National Parks are so heavily written about and vlogged, I see this an opportunity to elevate your content to other topics. Go visit the parks and keep the footage for your personal memories, but vlog the small towns and communities around the parks. We recently visited Glacier National Park. We spent three days in the park, but spent three days in the surrounding communities. Whitefish, Columbia Falls and Hungry Horse had some really cool little spots, and I'm sure the small business owners would be happy to have you. We spent six nights at Moose Creek RV Resort in their Airbnbs, and had the most amazing time & felt a part of someone's family. Most likely wouldn't have had that experience in park accommodations.
I agree! So busy too
Yessssss!!!
This! I hope you guys turn a challenge into an opportunity to be more creative and tell some of the less known stories. And while you're currently not interested in the permit and planning required for National Parks, maybe it wouldn't hurt to go ahead and apply. You might change your mind. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition. You could mix up your content with some more planned excursions one you are properly permitted and also include some of the stories of the surrounding areas in a more freestyle form you are accustomed to following.
So sorry to hear! The mean-spirited nature of some people I don't understand! Thanks for letting us know. Blessings!!! ❤
4t2E
Not mean-spirited. I just found it distasteful that Nate allowed Kara to cheat on him.
@@greggarcia6294 how do you know that happened?
@@caitlynwotherspoon2590 Seriously? You've never watched any of their videos? Huh, you must be new. On many of their trips, Kara has _hugged_ and even FLIRTED with non-spousal men. Nate, on the other hand, has never done so with any of the women whom he met on the trip.
I'm not sure why Nate is okay with Kara's adulterous behavior, but I can see why enough people complained to get them to shut down.
@@greggarcia6294 lol hugging and being nice to people is off limits? TOO GOOD HAHAHA
Can't believe people are so bitter and jealous they feel the need to complain. Take it as a compliment that your life is so much better than theirs!!
I'm not jealous Jake, wait till you try to go to these places and there packed because UA-camrs have told everybody from here to Japan where they are.
@@stevewainwright3344 So, in your opinion who has the right to access the national parks and who doesn't?
Well the whole point in this UA-cam thing is to share theirs experiences with others and maybe make other people want to visit there. Just pure bitter!!
@@ChoketheLabel Kara and Nate are free to access the parks. They're not free to film there or fly their drones without proper permits, which are not automatically granted. Instead of looking at the blog through the lens of their camera, visualize yourself in an already jam packed National Park - they are all jammed - confronted at every turn by drones whizzing around you and camera set-ups; guerilla filmmakers staking out optimum spots for the best angles, often on dangerous terrain. MOSTLY on dangerous terrain. You're trying to get from here to there safely and somebody's creating a roadblock ahead of you until they get their shot. For me personally that's a bigger issue than profiting commercially off public property. I wish there were a way to regulate everybody using public land as a personal film set even if it's not for profit. But that is an issue as well. They are public lands and it is an actual issue to use them for personal profit. Believe me, the parks need no advertising/promotion. Not to mention is that the reason people visit national parks, to experience the intense intrusion of other people's film set ups? Not to mention in many places drones are detrimental to wildlife. The noise is disruptive, their presence can be dangerous. The guerilla film crews are always going to stake out the most dangerous, visually exciting, extreme locations and that is problematic for everyone. I live near a famous bridge. Last fall I walked across it, the first time in years, and found it absolutely jam packed with tourists, many of whom left the walking path and crawled onto the girders over the roadway so they could get the best shots. It was extremely difficult to even walk across the thing.
Larger film productions are easier to regulate. They have a specific schedule, are supervised and do the work with park service representatives on location with them.
@@jeevesandbertie I see what you're saying about disruptions to natural functions of areas. But, my question was actually referring to your comment the people from "here to Japan" that "will pack the parks,"
which as you stated are public lands. My issue here is with gatekeeping, your comment implies these parks should be comfy for you, but unavailable to others who may hear about them through creator's content. Or for others who may enjoy the park in a different way than you.
which Karen doesn't have anything to do with her life and decided to harm Kara and Nate, one of the nicest people on UA-cam. With nothing but pure intentions to share their passion for travelling and exploring new places. Lots of love
Ugh if only Karen's where female lol. Managed to run into a male Karen and it shocked the hell out of me 😆
@@fluffnstuff5773 I heard that the male equivalent of a Karen is a David. It is a perfect fit. My mother in laws name is Karen, and my father in laws name is David.. It is almost poetic.
As a commercial drone pilot myself, I recommend purchasing the Remote Pilot Test Prep 2020 booklet. I bought mine off of Amazon. That's the best resource in my opinion that helped me the most in studying for the exam.
That is the one I used. I agree 100%. I got mine from my local library.
Welcome to the new age, where, the second you find happiness, someone wants to report you for it.
Because there are Karen’s in the world that report you once you’re living life
@@razormash8075 probably one of the 1.2k that have downvoted this video. They must lead sad lives.
Sounds like Georgia! 😄
yet, Americans call Europe communist ^^ nothing more communist than reporting your neighbour to authorities
@@razormash8075 There was a guy here in the comments who said he did it. Looking for his comments.
With 85 dislikes on this video, it tells me that people are jealous of your lives. You are a very lovable couple, and capable of great things because you have each other. Pray about some core things, God will guide you. Love, from India.
I saw the Evel Kneival rocket thing LIVE as a kid. I'm old.
😎no you're not just wise
Your feelings are completely valid! Someone has taken away a big part of your life and how you live it. You can be frustrated!
I hope things work out better for you soon!
I wrote to the NPS, asking them to adapt to the times and let you in. After all that you guys have given us, it's the least I can do. Perhaps other members of this growing family could do the same.
Where did you send it? I want to write too. I was just trying to figure out where and how to write to NPS?
How do you do it??
Could you product a form letter that could be printed and signed and then an address to send it to?
It’s the federal government. Their boss’ about to change in 12 weeks. I’m pretty sure people who can make big enough change is busy trying to maximize their money. They should just go to court and create precedence
you are the KINDEST soul! Thank you for doing so!
OMG, I cannot believe someone did that to you! That's a huge bummer for so many reasons, but your loyal and loving fans will love whatever you decide to share with us. You guys are awesome and good people and just move forward from this and do your thing. Much love from a devoted and loyal fan. xoxoxo
Someone may have done it. But end of the day this is goverment rules. Goverment should be updating the laws to account for people like UA-camrs. I assume goverment has not done a thing yet.
It seems JUST to them too. I've watched a lot of hiking videos during COVID and they are all in National parks, including Yellowstone, and many others on the big trails, CDT, PCT, and AT. No one is telling them they can't film and post, and many have as many subscribers and views as Kara and Nate, or more.
The fact that they didn’t just watch the video and dismiss this is hilarious. These types of channels improve tourism.they essentially made a commercial for people to visit these places and did it at no cost to the park itself. Getting a drone license also isn’t that difficult and will actually open up more opportunities for them to make money so as for that, it is what it is.
Whoever reported Kara and Nate is the adult equivalent of the kid who would tell the teacher there was homework due, when the teacher had forgotten. In all seriousness, it continues to surprise me every day how much time people have on their hands that they can go out of their way to ruin someone else’s day. Just wow, I’m sorry guys. Your vlogs have made me want to travel more than ever, and I’ve never really wanted to travel the US before, but I have a desire to explore it now because of you.
wow someone is really that miserable they actually went through all that trouble to report you guys
Exactly. Get a life, I say. To the jerk who reported them - 🖕 - Kara & Nate, this vid was fun. Do food & drink, town & city vlogs. They will be just as good. Kara, I laughed when you followed Nate in the maze holding up your wine glass ... “coming”. So you!
The time and trouble I mean who has time to make all those calls and wait on line and gather times and dates from the videos 🤷🏽♀️
Massive Karen
@@claudettep212 agreed.
I find it interesting that these amazing people have travelled all over the world without ever having a problem like this, and when they do it's in their own country. Bad luck guys. Don't let the bad guys win. ( the person that reported you ) Keep smiling, you have an army of fans out there that love your work!
You guys are so inspirational to me in so many ways! No matter what you post I will enjoy watching it anyway. Keep being awesome!!!!
Interesting that you have travelled the world filming, yet get into trouble in your own country for doing that .Its sad and i feel for you !
It’s called obeying the law. Cross it or think it doesn’t apply to you then pay the price 🤷🏻♀️
Sad people can’t just have fun and live for once without having others bash on you
@@giannazelasco1339 who’s bashing? When they are wrong they play the victim. They did this one other time about their 100 country. They led people on and at the last minute decided to charge for it. Now we are suppose to feel sorry for them when they break the law and get fined? The rule of law applies to EVERYONE!
@@donnaspuppyplayandadventur9397 I disagree I feel as though we as humans should appreciate our earth instead of making money off it, though yes the money is sometimes used to help it. Specially with the national park but they did nothing wrong in my eyes they are humans wanting to simply record and they are not damaging the property or anything just as if someone else took out there camera and recorded. Lemme go to a national park real quick and take a picture and post it on my social media. Will I get fined for wanting to show others what I saw that day? Probably which is absolute ridiculous. It’s a way the government just wants to make money off us because we cannot enjoy the earth. They did nothing wrong but people like you like to come at them with all these rules. It’s called letting go and not stressin
@@giannazelasco1339 I disagree. Stating rules and laws is not coming at someone. We have a nation full of people like you that can’t handle the truth and boundaries that include rules and laws. Breaking them is wrong no matter how one wants to spin it or whatever context they want to put it in. Taking a picture and recording for ones memories is one thing. Using the footage for personal gain on a social media that is their main source of income is another and well we know there are permits required. No one is above the law. All they have to do is follow the rules and continue making great content . But, they will withhold that content because they don’t want to follow the rules and comply. In the end that’s both a bad personal and business decision. It’s what business calls a lose, lose proposition.
That person who reported you must feel really proud of themselves...
So. Bitter.
Like.
Sooooooooo. Bitter.
I sure do!
@Eric Kohler nah it’s about following the law
people suck! looks like you found your hater in the comments!
@@darts42 he deleted his previous comment, but he admitted it was him. I have screenshots.
Nate hit the nail on the head...they're living the dream, and some jealous person who can't stand to see others happy took it upon themselves to try and change that happiness. Well news flash...Kara and Nate are good people, and this will only make them stronger. They're genuinely happy and genuinely good, and the negativity of miserable people can't change that. Keep doing what you're doing, Kara and Nate and we will keep watching, no matter where you go!
I hope this person feels so good and fulfilled about what they’ve done. “What you sow you will reap.”
Natl parks are missing out on some amazing FREE ADVERTISING!!
In the meantime, you guys can still visit national monuments, national forests, wildlife preserves, and state parks!
right!
100%. Instead of fining them, they need to be teaming up with them to generate more National Park (edit: awareness)-because it's truly needed.
True👍
SO MUCH THIS! This is why government shouldn’t run things!
4 years of traveling worldwide, and the US is the only place where you have trouble. Makes a clear statement...
EXACTLY
I’m gonna guess that they’ve had tons of trouble other places too, just haven’t shared it publically
@@suzihelbling2340 I wonder !
The land of the free and home of the brave 🙈🙈 Yeah, right. 😢😢😢
I know right!!!!🙄
I’m so sorry guys. I have a small husband wife UA-cam channel and there’s a very small minority who have the wrong shade of green eyes! Been there! I’m sure whatever you do people will still watch. Keep the faith and Thankyou for all the hard work! ❤️
Whoever reported you must be really sad with there life and felt like they needed to ruin someone’s else’s
right? rule # 1 of being a good human, if it doesn't impact you - don't mess with other people's lives.
Or they could have been a government employee doing their job.
hey! i've been watching you guys for maybe about 3 years now, and i completely understand your frustration of not being allowed to film. i know you guys capture everything and love sharing your experiences with us, and its okay! we all completely understand the situation you've been taken into, and no need to fright, most of us are here for the journey with you guys!! wherever you go and wherever your heart takes you, we'll be right there supporting you along the way.
Imagine hating your life so much that you feel the need to report UA-camrs 😂😂😂😂😂
Imagine a life so sad when you gripe because you aren't successful at circumventing the law.
I totally agree.
@@skibbydogg I think we found the person who made the report.
Yes the person who reported them is just jealous. They either can't do this or wont go out and do it because they are still in moms basement watching Q channels.
@@skibbydogg You must have reported them. Anyone who thinks that this is commercial video is a moron. Commercial permits are for large production house who need trucks lights and stuff. This is nothing like that this is no different than someone videoing there family on vacation.
National Park Service Can't Require Permits and Fees for Commercial Filming, Judge Rules
A D.C. federal judge found it's an unconstitutional content-based restriction on free speech to make filmmakers pay to shoot in national parks just because their work is commercial.
Honestly makes no sense who would turn down free advertisement
Exactly! I wouldn‘t now about the Sand Dune Natinoal Park if I didn’t watch Kara and Nate.
Well...I guess being flexible is not the trait a government authority needs.
The US government.. this is the nation where nothing makes sense 😟
I can’t help but think about just how MANY other travel YTers this can effect. If this can happen to them what’s not to say it won’t to others.
The GOVERNMENT!
They don't need advertising!! Parks are way overcrowded. Especially during the pandemic.
Can't believe the National Parks don't see it as free advertising. They should actually thank you for it!!
They are not like you or I. They are bureaucrats.
They could care less !
They don't have to make a profit like a private Enterprise. Look at the post office, losing money every year!
I honestly think national parks are so territorial over their land that they don’t like much of anything that is over a certain decibel and close to the lines. I’ve grown up in park since I was an infant and even the rangers are very institutionalized by their passion for their land.
@@princessriley3335 This is very correct. I just visited a bunch of parks and many of the parks are set up to make it as difficult as possible to see the park.
The one thing the National Parks need is LESS advertising. All the vlogs filmed in National Parks are creating massive overcrowding, bumper to bumper traffic, and a Disneyland environment.
Imagine wasting 2 hours of your life reporting UA-camrs just trying to encourage people to explore the outdoors. I don’t understand how a couple filming their experience could be uncomfortable for someone. That’s so stupid.
I think the National Parks should ban drones in the parks. The whiny , mosquito like noise of drones is obnoxious and goes against the idea that people are visiting the wilderness/natural world in the parks and it is rude to disturb it.
They are jealous of your success!! They don't get the hard work you put in making each video from shooting to editing. I was lucky to spend a few hours with you and could understand how things were shot and then how much time you must have spent cutting each shot and putting it together. While watching the video, no one can get what all you have to do get all the shots together. However, we all are here supporting and watching your videos. Whether drone shot or no drone shot, national parks or no national parks, we love what you do and will be here watching your videos.
Wait, are you the one who took them on food tour in India?
The person who reported you should GET A LIFE!! Gosh! 😒😒
And someone could just report the 2 in that restaurant right then and there. Just because and they'll tell it as if they both are criminals. IT'S THAT DUMB.
They were probably forest services. We need to protect these lands from entitled people who think the rules don't apply to them
@@fakename8218 were you the one who reported them? Lol, I wasn’t asking for your opinion btw.
When one door closes another opens. This is a huge change right now to your channel, and a lot more work put on you guys. However, you will learn so much from this, take different roads/paths that you may not have taken otherwise and meet people that perhaps you never would have. SO We really dislike the person that did this, and honestly hope they find some happiness outside of the miserable hole they've dug for themselves (because let's not lower ourselves to their level) ) but also thank you because Kara and Nate will only grow from this and show us how resourceful, creative and amazing they can truly be! (though we already knew). Best of luck to you guys, you can only go up from here! I can't wait to see how you kick the butt of these issues!
May I also add, that food and wine reviews are a new bonus; Wouldn't mind more of these! or Halloween things! :)
I completely agree
RULE OF MAZES!!!!! Always keep the same hand on the wall and you will find your way out. The reason is if the same hand never leaves the wall then it will never go over the same spot twice so you will eventually make your way out. Not usually the fastest but it works.
So disappointing! My husband and I are in our 70s and 80s we’re so looking forward to this, especially cents we would not be able to do all the national parks, or until Covid goes away any traveling.
You can checkout our NP park videos. We have spoken to countless rangers and they are happy we are there filming. We invite you on our adventures.
@@Mrandmrsadventure what raunchy manners you have.
I’m really sorry to hear someone had to stoop so low to make creating content more difficult for you guys! I really enjoy your videos and they have served as a source on inspiration for me so thanks for making great content regardless! Will continue to always watch and follow!
Don't feel bad about being frustrated about this! We all completely understand how annoying and frustrating it would be for you guys. I was looking forward to your Park content, but I think i speak for everyone when I say we'll all still be here even if you aren't going to parks! We support you 1000% and are hoping this turns around in your guy's favor
Yeah I was frustrated that this happened because you felt frustrated and that some people are just jerks.....
I like this channel but everybody who is jumping at bashing the national Park service should understand that there is very much a second side to the story. I have worked in the national parks for 13 years. The emergence of smaller commercial entities such as UA-cam film channels has resulted in an explosion of filming and drone use in the national parks. Drone use in particular has been highly problematic because it represents both a danger to unplanned search and rescue flights, the general public and established scenic over flights. Additionally, drone use results in noise pollution. Without a special use permit join use it is illegal to fly a drone in every single US national Park. Those of us who have devoted our lives to the park system and conservation have seen the detrimental impacts of increased commercial use within the parks. I understand the frustration but please understand the side of the national Park service in this issue as well.
While the national parks are amazing, as someone who has travelled a lot in the US, the state parks are amazing, and under visited. I was actually a little sad when Great sand dunes became a national park, because now a lot of people visit it. So there is a TON for you to see without hitting national parks.
State parks are so underrated! Also the areas just outside the national park borders are usually pretty amazing. I still wouldn't skip the parks if I were them, but I'm an NP lover so that's just me
Take a listen to this UA-camr "UA-camr Rules for Filming in a National Park (UA-camr Law Series)"
Not sure if he's a JD, but he says unless you license your film, it's not commercial use. I hope he's right. We all watch you for the travel; not for the specific location.
I was just getting ready to make a comment about that video on here as well and saw you already had .
Commenting only in hopes of bringing their attention to this.
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Sounds like someone is jealous of your success. I’ll watch whatever ya’ll post because I like you and I also feel happy watching your happiness, adventure and experiences.
Which is what I also said. Someone got so pissed off with their success.
most people get 2 weeks off, the rest of the time they sit in traffic for 2 hours a day, get yelled at. The national parks allow anybody to have access to nature for $10 a day. When they arrive there, they do not want to see a filming crew that left all their garbage behind, that cut down a tree for a better shot. That used to happen a lot. Hence the rules. And national parks are so so so overcrowded now.
I have a feeling when someone at the National Park service gets wind of this they will make an exception for you. I suggest you provide your many followers with a National Parks phone number or email address that we can use to express our support for you. In reality they should be paying you for promoting our National Parks.
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It's a shame that they'll be missing so many great parks but I doubt reaching out to NPS will help. For one thing, it's the federal government. Everything is rigidly regulated and federal employees usually do not have the discretion to grant waivers and exceptions. Also, the major National Parks don't really need to be promoted. For the big ones like Yellowstone or Yosemite if you want to stay in the park in an RV or a hotel you often need to book the lodging over a year in advance.
I think they might be getting scammed . They should not just deal with whom ever is calling and verify with the actual parks ect.
YES!!!!
If the actual park they filmed at says it’s ok. They need to question what’s happening. Scammers are very scary threatening and convincing. Because they act like they know so much. I hope they don’t give sensitive information to the caller.
Now you might get fined by Sharpie for advertising its product without permission.
Should I report to the FBI?
Don't give people ideas!!
As a Northern Colorado Native and a former tourism worker in Estes Park, I am so sorry this happened to you! There are many people up there that are aweful and report nice humans for dumb shit. I appreciate your travel vlogs because you are very respectful and responsible in your travel and filming.
I could understand reporting something that's dangerous or damaging to the parks, but for filming? Come on
@@TheAwkwardTourists drones are damaging to the parks.
@@emmaclaire17 they got in trouble for filming in general, as they make money from it. I agree that no one should drone in NP as it's illegal. As far as I know, any drone footage they had from a park was obtained from someone else
Keep your chins up !!!
We are all loyal fans 🥰.
I’m excited to see what you guys come up with. We visit the states. Two weeks a year. To explore a new area. The national parks wouldn’t be my first choice. Everyone goes there. Looking forward to taking some notes on what we should check out
I’m glad y’all told us bc I have been wondering.. and it’s not complaining it’s sharing what is going on in your lives with your viewers and it’s not always going to be pretty..