Thor Tony and Vision didn't damage the vibranium components of Ultron's body. They melted the regular steel alloys underneath it causing his body to weaken. The vibranium remained in tact
Actually if you read the comics and saw the 1960's MSH cartoons you'd know that Cap's shield was made from a meteor that was composed of a unique adamantium/vibranium alloy. The adamantium made it indestructible ( except for Thanos) and the vibranium gave it unique properties regarding absorbing and redirecting kinetic energy which allowed it to richechet multiple time while losing minimal velocity. Cap also used it as a means to bail out of aircraft w/o a parachute and land with it under his feet totally absorbing and redirecting the impact of hitting (crashing) on the ground and come up running!
It also was shown in the adventures of Iron Man show another weakness it has. It can store kinetic energy but it can't store an infinite amount of it. If it absorbs too much kinetic energy over time or all at once without a way to release it, the metal can't handle it, and it will explode
Shuri actually explains to agents ross that vibranium is highly volatile at high speeds and considering that the mark 50 can fly at mach 10 is a death sentence Thank u for putting this reason in 😊
@@austinlind But wasnt that in the firstCap movie that it was supposed to dissapate all force applied to it as vibration? - any other way its just another normal metal as if you shoot at any metal it will store that energy aswell.
@@arkaadias2526 Cap's shield isn't *just* Vibranium. It's an alloy, but nobody knows the exact mix ratio because it was formed by accident. At least, that's how it is in the comics, I believe. Not 100% sure on the MCU one.
Im going to be upset if Tony in the comics lose his new Mysterium suit. On par with vibranium and adamantium but it also contains some special powers like bypass spidey senses and resistances to magic.
When Iron Man 2 came out, I described Tony's suit as a fighter jet where Rhodies suit was the AC130 gunship. All that aside, I would have loved to see a short/miniseries of Tony, Shuri, and Bruce just getting into Science Shenanigans. Especially after what Tony said to Bruce in the first Avengers movie.
he used vibranium in the mk 30 and 33 on the retractable daggers. He also thinks of every possible outcome so how repairable to suit would be is a huge factor aswell as how he would stop it if someone stole it. a vibranium suit would be great and we might see some suits in armor wars with vibranium used in weapons but he wanted nanotech because of how quickly he could suit up.
And because the nano-suits depend on tech implants and DNA detection to work meaning others will have no way of using a stolen nano-suit but wouldn't have much problem using or overwriting a proper suit made of Vibranium
Looking at Iron Man 3 where he created suits for any sort of occasions, I wouldn't be surprised if one those suits between 50 and 85 was actually a Vibranium suit. "Just in case"
@@DiTroXClassic Well, we don't know for sure. I think they exist and will be a plot point for Armor Wars. Or perhaps that now that he uses nano-technology, it's simple iterations until mark 85. (They're more of a software update of the ARC reactor than physical armors) I guess the real answer is that they don't exist until the MCU need them to :)
I think Tony was smart enough to figure out a way around the problems you mentioned here with Vibranium. I won't be surprised if Dr. Doom shows up in a suit made of Vibranium or Adamantium.
Why am I sitting and listening to a hypothetical reason for a fictional character to have not made an make-believe and impossible armoured suit with a made-up version of a metal. WHY?
because the people who made these movies suck at thinking through what should be happening and someone else has to do it for them. and because youre too poor to have actual hobbies.
Black Panther people technology was far superior than what the rest of world knew and if they ever attacked them, it would be a war the rest of world could never win.
Also Tony and Stark Industries are very Litigious in the comics when protecting the Ironman IP. So much so that many of Tony's villains were put out of commission through Lawsuits. So we would also respect the IP of Wakanda and their ownership of Vibranium.
*In short if he did use Vibranium it would be hard to come across, harder to forge with, and will have a lot of gaps like his Mk.46 it would also be harder to fit more features as some parts are seen to be flexed, bent, stretched* There is said to be 2 types of Vibranium, Wakandian and Antarctic, one has the ability to absorb and deflect all types of damage inflicted while the other has the ability to dissolve any metal Captain America’s shield is forged with the mix of Wakandian and special alloy other materials like Adamantium and Uru masters other aspects such as magical traits and sharpness, Vibranium is said to be rare and hard to forge seeing that the suits used nanotech to cover any gaps
It would be better if he had a Vibranium suit like black panther and his nano tech on top of it white having no drawback on losing versatility and movement
A vibranium suit would be a major liability if a hostile entity were able to steal it. Tony has had his tech stolen in the past, and would know a suit of vibranium would be very difficult for him to defeat if it ever got into the wrong hands. It is important to never make something you yourself cannot unmake should the need arise.
Correction: Brute force does *NOT* break down Vibranium. When you said Thanos had enough of it to break cap’s shield that was incorrect. Thanos’ sword is made out of URU which is the only other metal other than Vibranium in the 616 universe that is known to damage Vibranium. As a content creator who reviews marvel continuity like this it doesn’t make sense that you’d say something before doing research into what you’re talking about, Vibranium absorbs kinetic energy which makes it indestructible to brute force. You’d need a material just as strong or stronger than Vibranium to break down Vibranium.
Key examples, 1. Caps Shield being scratched by Vibranium claws 2. Thanos’ URU sword cutting Cap’s shield in half Honorable mention: Wolverine Origins, an Adamantium bullet pierced through wolverines Adamantium skull. And has been the only thing that has ever done so within the entire X-men franchise. (Adamantium is a less refined version of Vibranium)
@@Shushhhhh Not all writers know what they're playing with so you tend to get things like: Mjölnir being picked up by a person with infinite strength even though the enchant makes it so its always too heavy if they're not worthy. Or my favourite example of a writer/producer adding something without understanding what their doing: Making Spiderman unable to use spider sense while very clearly avoiding attacks and fighting a villain that is very obviously hostile because "He's too quick"
His shield shouldn't have been broken like that at all. They should have done it like the comics where Thanos backhands it with the Infinity Gauntlet and shatters it. That would have been way better than what they did.
The fact he made an additional 30 suit in the 5 year shows he wanted to improve those suits would of been different not just improvements and i cant believe he wouldn't make a vibranium suit even if he never had plans to use it
These problems should be pretty easy to solve. 1. The problem of having no vibranium or limited vibranium is super easy to fix. Tony Stark being Tony Stark means he should be able to find a way to turn energy into matter. If he perfects this, using his near infinite source of energy from his Arc Reactor or if I heard correctly from the 1st film actually infinite source of energy, he could convert this energy into vibranium. 2. Though it can be disabled with sonic attacks this is actually super easy to solve. He could use a layer of an adamantite alloy nanobots that reflects sound which he should be able to find. If he can't he could create a layer of adamantite nanobots on top, then a sound insulative layer under that, then vibranium+adamantite nanobots under. This would make it impossible if he uses the sound reflection or really hard to disable the vibranium if he uses the sound insulation. 3. Though it can be broken with enough force, you could fix this pretty easily to. If Tony Stark is able to turn energy into matter, he should already be able to turn kinetic energy into electric energy in a small space. If he does that then the vibranium should have technically infinite capacity to store kinetic energy because since it is nanobots, he could take the kinetic energy from the nanobots and turn it into other energy which he could use to power his weapons more. Essentially, the harder you hit Tony, the harder he hits back. 4. According to the official handbook of MCU(I found this online from some probably not trustworthy source on reddit) the melting point of Vibranium is 3000C. The melting point of adamantium is basically infinite so we don't need to talk about that. What if we add a layer of aerogel or a better insulative material between the adamantium and vibranium. If there is some sound insulation material then it would be placed next to the adamantium. Carbon based aerogel melts at 2500C but Tony's aerogel probably is better. It would insulate the vibranium so that you don't need to worry about them melting the vibranium or them melting tony stark. I imagine Tony has invented some insane insulation considering the attacks he has taken and not been incinerated so just use that. Now Tony has a suit made of vibranium that is super strong. Also with a nanobot reserve he can make specialized physical weapons that could maybe even shoot energy beams or explode. Also act as a shield against attacks? Like if he was attacked the nanobots could rush to the predicted point of impact or predicted point in the path to impact to shield tony. Likely not gonna happen considering his insane suit. Please tell me if anything is wrong. Also if he wants to have a stronger punch, he could turn electric energy into kinetic energy and direct the kinetic energy to power his punches instead of using jets.
The exterior might have been cheaper and less durable materials but the interiors could have been Vibranium. Like how the cage of a car is made from way stronger steel than the iron/aluminium that makes up the rest.
Vibranium Weave Stealth Suit would be the best option if he were to make a suit type with it. Functionally exact to the Black Panther series of suits, it would be inherently superior for missions where you mustn't be heard, but armed with quiet, lower yield versions of the standard weaponry that he's already used to having. The main thing about a stealth mission is you aren't supposed to actually get into any kind of combat where your targets have a chance to defend and any fights you do get in are dealt with quietly and quickly enough to where nobody else is alerted. If you've gotten yourself into a situation where you'd need Vibranium Plate, you've already failed the stealth mission.
It’s funny that when the Void was open, it had an Avengers VR game that mixed the Iron Man suit with the Black Panther suit. Even though it was just a game, Marvel, from that standpoint, showed how a Vibranium Mark XXX suit would function. 539
this is not 100% true as in avengers endgame, Tony Stark makes captian america a new shield out of Vibranium meaning he did have access to it and found a way to mold it into a shape he wanted and could make plates for a full suit.
I mean If he wanted the best of both world he could just ripped off Terminator 3 and did a combo of hard plates of vibranium and then the non vibranium nano bots from his other suit, so he get protection from the plates and versatility of gadgets with the nano bots
@@blackpoolTV65nano tech is not something that made by vibranium...nano technology is something that tony used by himself...no borrowing by someone...!
@@blackpoolTV65 It wasn't made by wakanda. He was inspired by them, more specifically their shield wall and more specifically their shiels. During his fight with Thanos, shielding himself from the power stones beam caused a lot of his nano's to be depleted, subsequently meaning he couldn't fully protect himself after so many blows and his attacks became limited. As a result, he made a separate energy based shield because he knew his power had a lot of room to bring utility in because of his ever advancing arc reactors so he merged his tech with the general shield design wakandans used
@@eftehassan9969 you’re right, but there’s one thing, nanotechnology couldn’t be perfected without vibranium, this is why mark 50-85 are all vibranium because they’re nanotechnology which is only compatible with the usage of vibranium
Key word Manipulate. Not "Figured out time travel. That's step one. How to manipulate that travel in time was step two. In case some one is about to type up "IT TOOK HIM 5 YEARS TO TIME TRAVEL NOT DAYS!"
What if we went a little Terminator 3 in focus. Where the outside of nanotech vibranium to only serve as better armor or turn into melee weaponry. But under that is the more plated style of armor. Could do this or the opposite, where it's other metals on the outside, but a vibranium suit.
Your forgeting one clear key difining fact that has been center stage to Starks character since the first comic, 'He doesnt like to share', The biggest re-used plot point in Iron man is his tech getting stolen and/or misused, 1st film Stain sells his weapons and steals his tech, 2nd Film Hammer - Wiplash & Rodes steal/misuse his tech, 3rd Film Killian wants starks improved Extremis, so it's clear that after Age of Ultron when his creation turns on him he choses to never create something he cannot destroy and thus see's a vibranium suit as a potential new Ultron.
Great point, its safe to assume that tonys suit already has vibranium in there doing something absorbing energy adding it to suit supply or something else Or that it was not useful or needed. Also tony makes like a bunch of suits a year so he might be saving it as vibranium is hard to work with so that he doesn't end up with ourdated suit but with nano tech thats unlikely to be a problem
It also seems to me that since he created a new element to power his suits, elemental synthesis would allow him to effectively create vibranium or any essential elements if he did not have an economic source to get them from. So, since you conclude that he did not use vibranium in his suits, he chose not to do so. I always assumed he did use it as an alloy for his later suits it vibranium allowed him to create his nanite technology, but I just assumed that.
If Shuri could create a synthetic heart shaped urb, Tony could definitely create it along with likely creating his own vibranium from scratch. But it's comics, nothing has to make sense.
Everyone also needs to remember where Vibranium came from. It came from a asteroid or comet, I don't remember which. So that would mean that it WILL run out, hence why it is so expensive.
It is possible that the suit he used in infinity war is actually vibranium because it is so durable or otherwise he would not have suddenly made such an upgrade with the nanobot and able to fight thanos for a prolonged battle in the movie
I theorize if he used magic, for the process of making, a Vibranium IronMan Suit, then it might be possible to reshape its form. Plus to add I theorize with the use of magic, it might be possible to lessen the weight, of the thick, heavy Vibranium metal. I imagine this way it could be possible, for the magically fused Vibranium suit, to be both strongly durable, and flexible. In addition I imagine it might be possible, for the suit to have a sleeker form to it, and have extra features that include magic protection.
Thanos sword was probably made of Uru, the only metal in the MCU at that point that was strong enough to break Vibranium. He probably forced the dwarfes of nidavellir to create it while they also created the gauntlet.
What about something similar to the T-X from Terminator? A Vibranium suit with a nanomachine layer. The nanomachines could form weapons, energy shields, and other defenses, covering Vibranium's weaknesses, while the Vibranium armor offers a strong core defense.
simple answer, between civil war and infinity war tony didn't know the location of Wakanda only Captain America knew, also in civil war there's no definitive answer if Tony knew the black panther suit was made of vibranium. Iron man was already using nano tech that could shape his suit for many weapons and speeds he needs where vibranium would only make his suit stronger. Nano Tech was more valuable to his suit
According to black panther 2 wakanda never opened up or agreed to international trade vibranium plus Tony has always feared his own genius he acknowledged the fact that there are lines that should not be crossed when it comes to power
So...this might not be canon anymore but i remember a marvel avengers movie from the early 2k. In it an alien force with armor and ships attacked earth. No one at all could damage these ships. No one except the hulk. I believe the excuse was that vibranium was extremely weak and loses its properties when hit by extreme radiation.
Tony didn't replicate the power of the tesseract. He created artificial vibrainium when he created the triangle power source for his chest arch reactor.
Vibranium being able to be disabled wouldn’t really be a problem if his latest nanotechnology suit was lined with vibranium. That way, even if it was disabled, he would still have his original suit’s durability, just without the vibranium reinforcements. Adding vibranium wouldn’t really have any drawbacks if he used it like this.
Access is the primary reason. TChalla couldn’t say yes even if he wanted to - but he probably wouldn’t. No trust. I find it hard to believe Tony couldn’t come up with a solution for the potential durability issue. Much of that is solved in Caps shield.
He could have created one, but just for moments like snapping with infinity gauntlet or some defense for his family in bad times, because i think this suit could withstand that infinity gauntlet, i would like to see alle the additional 30 suits which he created between infinity war and Endgame :D
If I were the Black Panther...🤔... my suit would be similar to Tony's Endo Sim suit. It would in essence be like a liquid vibranium Venom. I can increase the size of the armor to a Hulkbuster size just like Tony did in the comics. I wouldn't even need an arc reactor because the suit can absorb and store its own kinetic energy. I can easily negate Sonic attacks by just emitting an alternate frequency to cancel out incoming sound based attacks. Wakanda's energy Shield technology would make me damn near untouchable to bladed attacks. So I would have the strength of the Hulk. I could replicate the versatility, abilities and protection of any Iron Man suit. I would have Spider-Man/Venom abilities and because of my nanites I could make Wolverine claws, duplicate any handheld weapon even a captain America shield. I can even use a portion of the suits Mass to create 1 or more avatars (Vision) with the exact same abilities that the suit grants me. #Wakanda4Ever🙅🏿♂️
Tldr this would have been pointless especially now that comic tony has a suit made of mysterium. That metal just by existing can bypass the spider sense resist magic, and is too strong for even capitán marvel to break.
After the events of Black Panther 1, wasn't Tony in contact with and working with Shuri to develop nanotech? This is my understanding, and would have counted as a member of the Wakandan royal family he could contact after the snap.
On paper it makes sense that he didn't. The American supply of vibranium was very small, most of it tied up in Captain Americas shield. The Wakandans were also restrictive of its use outside Wakandas borders and any recovered from Ultrons theft would have been returned in good faith. Stark would have to go through a process to acquire any vibranium he used to keep it on the up-and-up and maintain relations with Wakanda, they would also probably have stipulated that it not be used for offensive technologies. He probably also benefitted from other forms of Wakanda technology such as energy shields and nanites as a part of a technology bargain or concession. Long story short, the Wakandans controlled the supply of vibranium, their vibranium was unique to their geography and as such, it could be identified and returned to their supply if liberated from illegal trade.
OR maybe because Since Tony is Constantly Making new Suits If he put vibranium in one of them hed have to put them in any future suits . since the entire point of making new suits is to make them better not adding vibranium in them wouldnt live up to that . Its probably because tony knew that while making one vibranium suit would be not that costly for him , but him proceeding to use vibranium in his suits would become very costly over time
Not being a scientist myself, I have a question. Why wouldn’t his nanotechnology be able to form his suit if it was made of vibranium? The nanotechnology works on rearranging the atoms of an item altering whatever into whatever is desired. With nanotechnology I can change a gun into an apple to have a midnight snack.
it's possible he could use carbotanium, something more malleable than adamantium and the Russians knew how to make it.. so I'm sure Tony could have found the smelting process should he really want to. It.. 'was' radioactive but he could make shielding for that with trace amounts.
Put simply I think it was impractical to make a suit out of vibranium as it would have prevented certain technologies such as nano technology from reaching their maximum potential due to the limitations of the metal.
In one of the cartoons I think it was « earths mightiest heroes » there’s an episode where he goes to wakanda with no tech and builds himself a vibration shield
I still don't get how nanobot projectiles could hurt anyone without fuel for the propulsion & detonation just taking away vast resources from the suit. When Thanos was just tearing off pieces of his armor, like his whole helmet, nanobots had to reroute from his leg. Those nanobots arent limitless & eventually Iron man would eventually be left with the bare minimum, if you could call it that
I think it's obvious he did consider it, based on the stockpile, but Ultron used it and got his ass kicked. Everyone always says Tony learns from his mistakes. I think in that case, he learned from Ultron's. Of course he could have still made a suit out of it and improved where Ultron failed but Tony is also conceited and I don't think he would want to look like he's copying someone else. Especially someone like Ultron. Idk, maybe it's just something to add to the video about why.
I think Tony did build a vibranum armour but ot for himself, (The Rescue armour). He would have used vibranum to keep her safe and her suit doesn't seem to be nanites
yk, youd think all this then also think wait, why not a layered suit, one vibranium inner layer thats not too thin, but thin, and one layer of nano tech ontop
Thor Tony and Vision didn't damage the vibranium components of Ultron's body. They melted the regular steel alloys underneath it causing his body to weaken. The vibranium remained in tact
Vibranium has one fatal flaw. It can be turned off and rendered useless. This is explained in Dr. Doom's comic... You're welcome.
Dang could we possibly see that in Doomsday
it's also explained during one of the movies, because that's basically how they excract it. They disable it and then mine it.
In Black Panther on the train tracks.
Actually if you read the comics and saw the 1960's MSH cartoons you'd know that Cap's shield was made from a meteor that was composed of a unique adamantium/vibranium alloy. The adamantium made it indestructible ( except for Thanos) and the vibranium gave it unique properties regarding absorbing and redirecting kinetic energy which allowed it to richechet multiple time while losing minimal velocity. Cap also used it as a means to bail out of aircraft w/o a parachute and land with it under his feet totally absorbing and redirecting the impact of hitting (crashing) on the ground and come up running!
It also was shown in the adventures of Iron Man show another weakness it has. It can store kinetic energy but it can't store an infinite amount of it. If it absorbs too much kinetic energy over time or all at once without a way to release it, the metal can't handle it, and it will explode
Shuri actually explains to agents ross that vibranium is highly volatile at high speeds and considering that the mark 50 can fly at mach 10 is a death sentence
Thank u for putting this reason in 😊
Highly volatile? So it explodes?
@@arkaadias2526absorbs too much energy flying into all those air particles. Would just explode unless you had a way to vent it
@@austinlind But wasnt that in the firstCap movie that it was supposed to dissapate all force applied to it as vibration? - any other way its just another normal metal as if you shoot at any metal it will store that energy aswell.
@@arkaadias2526 Cap's shield isn't *just* Vibranium. It's an alloy, but nobody knows the exact mix ratio because it was formed by accident.
At least, that's how it is in the comics, I believe. Not 100% sure on the MCU one.
@@arkaadias2526 I dont know Shuri just says to everett that is dangerous for raw vibranium to travel at high speeds
Im going to be upset if Tony in the comics lose his new Mysterium suit. On par with vibranium and adamantium but it also contains some special powers like bypass spidey senses and resistances to magic.
Marvel really should create anymantium. A special metal that can do literally anything the plot/ user needs/ wants.
@@stephenwonghongweng4298I heard that's what their plot armour is made out of.
that suit is just plain plot armour in the most literal sense.
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So, basically “cosmic armor Superman” lol
Mysterium is stronger than Adamanitum. With this BS material. It makes Vibratium kinda cheap. Vibratium is no longer top 3, maybe not even top 5 now.
When Iron Man 2 came out, I described Tony's suit as a fighter jet where Rhodies suit was the AC130 gunship. All that aside, I would have loved to see a short/miniseries of Tony, Shuri, and Bruce just getting into Science Shenanigans. Especially after what Tony said to Bruce in the first Avengers movie.
he used vibranium in the mk 30 and 33 on the retractable daggers. He also thinks of every possible outcome so how repairable to suit would be is a huge factor aswell as how he would stop it if someone stole it. a vibranium suit would be great and we might see some suits in armor wars with vibranium used in weapons but he wanted nanotech because of how quickly he could suit up.
And because the nano-suits depend on tech implants and DNA detection to work meaning others will have no way of using a stolen nano-suit but wouldn't have much problem using or overwriting a proper suit made of Vibranium
Looking at Iron Man 3 where he created suits for any sort of occasions, I wouldn't be surprised if one those suits between 50 and 85 was actually a Vibranium suit. "Just in case"
imagine the tabularasa protocol kicking of and one suit just falling down as the self destruct cant kill the outer shell xd
There wasn't a single suit between 50 and 85 I think, or stellst not 35. look at a video where he explains it, cause 85 is supposed to mean his girl
@@DiTroXClassic Well, we don't know for sure. I think they exist and will be a plot point for Armor Wars.
Or perhaps that now that he uses nano-technology, it's simple iterations until mark 85. (They're more of a software update of the ARC reactor than physical armors)
I guess the real answer is that they don't exist until the MCU need them to :)
I think Tony was smart enough to figure out a way around the problems you mentioned here with Vibranium. I won't be surprised if Dr. Doom shows up in a suit made of Vibranium or Adamantium.
Why am I sitting and listening to a hypothetical reason for a fictional character to have not made an make-believe and impossible armoured suit with a made-up version of a metal. WHY?
and you watched the whole thing
Cause that's how you get to the center of nothing
because the people who made these movies suck at thinking through what should be happening and someone else has to do it for them. and because youre too poor to have actual hobbies.
Haha ill take this over 95% of the toxic shit on social media . It gets our inner nerd brain activated 😂
Fun is always allowed, if you liked it and you're not procrastinating, why not?
Tony did ask, Black Panther was jealous of his Iron Man suit and said no.😂
Where and when
@@meetmulti It's a joke
@@DahFearlesswe don’t laugh around here bud
@@gunfiregaming4861 insert meme * we don't do that here
Black Panther people technology was far superior than what the rest of world knew and if they ever attacked them, it would be a war the rest of world could never win.
In the book The Wakanda Files, it was stated that Tony bought vibranium from Wakanda which was what his mark 50-85 armors were based on
Also Tony and Stark Industries are very Litigious in the comics when protecting the Ironman IP. So much so that many of Tony's villains were put out of commission through Lawsuits. So we would also respect the IP of Wakanda and their ownership of Vibranium.
*In short if he did use Vibranium it would be hard to come across, harder to forge with, and will have a lot of gaps like his Mk.46 it would also be harder to fit more features as some parts are seen to be flexed, bent, stretched*
There is said to be 2 types of Vibranium, Wakandian and Antarctic, one has the ability to absorb and deflect all types of damage inflicted while the other has the ability to dissolve any metal
Captain America’s shield is forged with the mix of Wakandian and special alloy other materials like Adamantium and Uru masters other aspects such as magical traits and sharpness, Vibranium is said to be rare and hard to forge seeing that the suits used nanotech to cover any gaps
It would be better if he had a Vibranium suit like black panther and his nano tech on top of it white having no drawback on losing versatility and movement
they should make a episode on WHAT IF where tony focuses more on durability and uses Vibranium
A vibranium suit would be a major liability if a hostile entity were able to steal it. Tony has had his tech stolen in the past, and would know a suit of vibranium would be very difficult for him to defeat if it ever got into the wrong hands. It is important to never make something you yourself cannot unmake should the need arise.
also he knows not to piss the wakandans off they would just seize it from him
Correction: Brute force does *NOT* break down Vibranium. When you said Thanos had enough of it to break cap’s shield that was incorrect. Thanos’ sword is made out of URU which is the only other metal other than Vibranium in the 616 universe that is known to damage Vibranium. As a content creator who reviews marvel continuity like this it doesn’t make sense that you’d say something before doing research into what you’re talking about, Vibranium absorbs kinetic energy which makes it indestructible to brute force. You’d need a material just as strong or stronger than Vibranium to break down Vibranium.
Key examples,
1. Caps Shield being scratched by Vibranium claws
2. Thanos’ URU sword cutting Cap’s shield in half
Honorable mention:
Wolverine Origins, an Adamantium bullet pierced through wolverines Adamantium skull. And has been the only thing that has ever done so within the entire X-men franchise.
(Adamantium is a less refined version of Vibranium)
How do you speculate red hulk was able to damage the shield in the brave new world trailer?
@@Shushhhhh Not all writers know what they're playing with so you tend to get things like:
Mjölnir being picked up by a person with infinite strength even though the enchant makes it so its always too heavy if they're not worthy.
Or my favourite example of a writer/producer adding something without understanding what their doing:
Making Spiderman unable to use spider sense while very clearly avoiding attacks and fighting a villain that is very obviously hostile because "He's too quick"
His shield shouldn't have been broken like that at all. They should have done it like the comics where Thanos backhands it with the Infinity Gauntlet and shatters it. That would have been way better than what they did.
The fact he made an additional 30 suit in the 5 year shows he wanted to improve those suits would of been different not just improvements and i cant believe he wouldn't make a vibranium suit even if he never had plans to use it
He didn’t make 30 suits, he named the suit mark 85 after Morgan
M is 13th letter so 8+5=13
I thought the endgame suit was vibranium and nanotech
These problems should be pretty easy to solve.
1. The problem of having no vibranium or limited vibranium is super easy to fix. Tony Stark being Tony Stark means he should be able to find a way to turn energy into matter. If he perfects this, using his near infinite source of energy from his Arc Reactor or if I heard correctly from the 1st film actually infinite source of energy, he could convert this energy into vibranium.
2. Though it can be disabled with sonic attacks this is actually super easy to solve. He could use a layer of an adamantite alloy nanobots that reflects sound which he should be able to find. If he can't he could create a layer of adamantite nanobots on top, then a sound insulative layer under that, then vibranium+adamantite nanobots under. This would make it impossible if he uses the sound reflection or really hard to disable the vibranium if he uses the sound insulation.
3. Though it can be broken with enough force, you could fix this pretty easily to. If Tony Stark is able to turn energy into matter, he should already be able to turn kinetic energy into electric energy in a small space. If he does that then the vibranium should have technically infinite capacity to store kinetic energy because since it is nanobots, he could take the kinetic energy from the nanobots and turn it into other energy which he could use to power his weapons more. Essentially, the harder you hit Tony, the harder he hits back.
4. According to the official handbook of MCU(I found this online from some probably not trustworthy source on reddit) the melting point of Vibranium is 3000C. The melting point of adamantium is basically infinite so we don't need to talk about that. What if we add a layer of aerogel or a better insulative material between the adamantium and vibranium. If there is some sound insulation material then it would be placed next to the adamantium. Carbon based aerogel melts at 2500C but Tony's aerogel probably is better. It would insulate the vibranium so that you don't need to worry about them melting the vibranium or them melting tony stark. I imagine Tony has invented some insane insulation considering the attacks he has taken and not been incinerated so just use that.
Now Tony has a suit made of vibranium that is super strong. Also with a nanobot reserve he can make specialized physical weapons that could maybe even shoot energy beams or explode. Also act as a shield against attacks? Like if he was attacked the nanobots could rush to the predicted point of impact or predicted point in the path to impact to shield tony. Likely not gonna happen considering his insane suit. Please tell me if anything is wrong. Also if he wants to have a stronger punch, he could turn electric energy into kinetic energy and direct the kinetic energy to power his punches instead of using jets.
Shoulda made Uru armor!! I bet he has..
He has in the comics.
@@MrHillBilly-j7fwith the authorisation of Odin, for a specific event, and he had to give it up afterwards
@@leschroniquesderick4109 Yeah that is true.
The exterior might have been cheaper and less durable materials but the interiors could have been Vibranium. Like how the cage of a car is made from way stronger steel than the iron/aluminium that makes up the rest.
Vibranium Weave Stealth Suit would be the best option if he were to make a suit type with it. Functionally exact to the Black Panther series of suits, it would be inherently superior for missions where you mustn't be heard, but armed with quiet, lower yield versions of the standard weaponry that he's already used to having. The main thing about a stealth mission is you aren't supposed to actually get into any kind of combat where your targets have a chance to defend and any fights you do get in are dealt with quietly and quickly enough to where nobody else is alerted. If you've gotten yourself into a situation where you'd need Vibranium Plate, you've already failed the stealth mission.
It’s funny that when the Void was open, it had an Avengers VR game that mixed the Iron Man suit with the Black Panther suit. Even though it was just a game, Marvel, from that standpoint, showed how a Vibranium Mark XXX suit would function.
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this is not 100% true as in avengers endgame, Tony Stark makes captian america a new shield out of Vibranium meaning he did have access to it and found a way to mold it into a shape he wanted and could make plates for a full suit.
Can you make a video about giant man and how he died in the Deadpool Wolverine movie
He’s a normal person Cassandra Nova just snapped her fingers and the same thing that happened to Johnny happened to giant man
I mean If he wanted the best of both world he could just ripped off Terminator 3 and did a combo of hard plates of vibranium and then the non vibranium nano bots from his other suit, so he get protection from the plates and versatility of gadgets with the nano bots
"Hey, Wakanda, can I use your guy's vibranium for a new suit?"
"No"
He should’ve got some from Wakanda after Infinity War 😂
he did get one in infinity war made by wakanda thats the vibranium nano tech suit please correct me if im wrong
@@blackpoolTV65 None of tony's suit was made by wakanda .no suit of tony is made by anyone except the himself
@@blackpoolTV65nano tech is not something that made by vibranium...nano technology is something that tony used by himself...no borrowing by someone...!
@@blackpoolTV65 It wasn't made by wakanda. He was inspired by them, more specifically their shield wall and more specifically their shiels. During his fight with Thanos, shielding himself from the power stones beam caused a lot of his nano's to be depleted, subsequently meaning he couldn't fully protect himself after so many blows and his attacks became limited. As a result, he made a separate energy based shield because he knew his power had a lot of room to bring utility in because of his ever advancing arc reactors so he merged his tech with the general shield design wakandans used
@@eftehassan9969 you’re right, but there’s one thing, nanotechnology couldn’t be perfected without vibranium, this is why mark 50-85 are all vibranium because they’re nanotechnology which is only compatible with the usage of vibranium
Dude I love your videos on your channel about start wars. Finding this was amazing.
Key word Manipulate. Not "Figured out time travel. That's step one. How to manipulate that travel in time was step two. In case some one is about to type up "IT TOOK HIM 5 YEARS TO TIME TRAVEL NOT DAYS!"
Another possibility, Vibranium armor would be too overpowered and the writers knew that
This explanation, and the theories, both sound very interesting.
Its the simple questions like this that we think about until we find something of significance
Wise , good job
What if we went a little Terminator 3 in focus. Where the outside of nanotech vibranium to only serve as better armor or turn into melee weaponry. But under that is the more plated style of armor. Could do this or the opposite, where it's other metals on the outside, but a vibranium suit.
Your forgeting one clear key difining fact that has been center stage to Starks character since the first comic, 'He doesnt like to share', The biggest re-used plot point in Iron man is his tech getting stolen and/or misused,
1st film Stain sells his weapons and steals his tech,
2nd Film Hammer - Wiplash & Rodes steal/misuse his tech,
3rd Film Killian wants starks improved Extremis,
so it's clear that after Age of Ultron when his creation turns on him he choses to never create something he cannot destroy and thus see's a vibranium suit as a potential new Ultron.
Did you know that Iron Man suits already have vibranium in them the Silver Centurion and Blue Steel
Great point, its safe to assume that tonys suit already has vibranium in there doing something absorbing energy adding it to suit supply or something else Or that it was not useful or needed.
Also tony makes like a bunch of suits a year so he might be saving it as vibranium is hard to work with so that he doesn't end up with ourdated suit but with nano tech thats unlikely to be a problem
Not true. But they did write it in last movie and it was destroyed when he snapped his finger and died due to the snap that cooked him
It also seems to me that since he created a new element to power his suits, elemental synthesis would allow him to effectively create vibranium or any essential elements if he did not have an economic source to get them from. So, since you conclude that he did not use vibranium in his suits, he chose not to do so. I always assumed he did use it as an alloy for his later suits it vibranium allowed him to create his nanite technology, but I just assumed that.
I think you're spot on
Tony fixed Captain America's shield after Civil War and gave it back. So yes he can shape vibranium.
If Shuri could create a synthetic heart shaped urb, Tony could definitely create it along with likely creating his own vibranium from scratch. But it's comics, nothing has to make sense.
0:48 Canonically Captain America's shield is made of a Vibranium Adamantium alloy infused with magic.
So
DC Nth metal.
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I think it would be really cool if in his later versions of his suits, he used vibranium
Everyone also needs to remember where Vibranium came from. It came from a asteroid or comet, I don't remember which. So that would mean that it WILL run out, hence why it is so expensive.
It is possible that the suit he used in infinity war is actually vibranium because it is so durable or otherwise he would not have suddenly made such an upgrade with the nanobot and able to fight thanos for a prolonged battle in the movie
I theorize if he used magic, for the process of making, a Vibranium IronMan Suit, then it might be possible to reshape its form.
Plus to add I theorize with the use of magic, it might be possible to lessen the weight, of the thick, heavy Vibranium metal.
I imagine this way it could be possible, for the magically fused Vibranium suit, to be both strongly durable, and flexible.
In addition I imagine it might be possible, for the suit to have a sleeker form to it, and have extra features that include magic protection.
Thanos sword was probably made of Uru, the only metal in the MCU at that point that was strong enough to break Vibranium. He probably forced the dwarfes of nidavellir to create it while they also created the gauntlet.
I could be wrong, but I think Iron Man is worth $100 billion.
Each suit is probably easily worth a 9 digit number at bare minimum.
All except mark 1 I think
What about something similar to the T-X from Terminator? A Vibranium suit with a nanomachine layer. The nanomachines could form weapons, energy shields, and other defenses, covering Vibranium's weaknesses, while the Vibranium armor offers a strong core defense.
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Iron Man 2
Tony Rediscovers Vibranium, and it became the thing powering his heart
simple answer, between civil war and infinity war tony didn't know the location of Wakanda only Captain America knew, also in civil war there's no definitive answer if Tony knew the black panther suit was made of vibranium. Iron man was already using nano tech that could shape his suit for many weapons and speeds he needs where vibranium would only make his suit stronger. Nano Tech was more valuable to his suit
According to black panther 2 wakanda never opened up or agreed to international trade vibranium plus Tony has always feared his own genius he acknowledged the fact that there are lines that should not be crossed when it comes to power
So...this might not be canon anymore but i remember a marvel avengers movie from the early 2k.
In it an alien force with armor and ships attacked earth. No one at all could damage these ships. No one except the hulk. I believe the excuse was that vibranium was extremely weak and loses its properties when hit by extreme radiation.
I think he knew about viburnum he just wanted to see if he could top it himself , or surpass it 🤷♂️
The starwars guy has a marvel channel, LET'S FUCKING GO
Tony didn't replicate the power of the tesseract. He created artificial vibrainium when he created the triangle power source for his chest arch reactor.
Vibranium being able to be disabled wouldn’t really be a problem if his latest nanotechnology suit was lined with vibranium. That way, even if it was disabled, he would still have his original suit’s durability, just without the vibranium reinforcements. Adding vibranium wouldn’t really have any drawbacks if he used it like this.
Access is the primary reason. TChalla couldn’t say yes even if he wanted to - but he probably wouldn’t. No trust. I find it hard to believe Tony couldn’t come up with a solution for the potential durability issue. Much of that is solved in Caps shield.
He could have created one, but just for moments like snapping with infinity gauntlet or some defense for his family in bad times, because i think this suit could withstand that infinity gauntlet, i would like to see alle the additional 30 suits which he created between infinity war and Endgame :D
it was a good call to not make a suit purely out of vibranium, but he could have implemented it in a non-essential manner
Here's another one, what if Tony got to space forge that made Stormbreaker, and got access to Uru metal?
If I were the Black Panther...🤔... my suit would be similar to Tony's Endo Sim suit. It would in essence be like a liquid vibranium Venom. I can increase the size of the armor to a Hulkbuster size just like Tony did in the comics. I wouldn't even need an arc reactor because the suit can absorb and store its own kinetic energy.
I can easily negate Sonic attacks by just emitting an alternate frequency to cancel out incoming sound based attacks.
Wakanda's energy Shield technology would make me damn near untouchable to bladed attacks.
So I would have the strength of the Hulk.
I could replicate the versatility, abilities and protection of any Iron Man suit.
I would have Spider-Man/Venom abilities and because of my nanites I could make Wolverine claws, duplicate any handheld weapon even a captain America shield.
I can even use a portion of the suits Mass to create 1 or more avatars (Vision) with the exact same abilities that the suit grants me.
#Wakanda4Ever🙅🏿♂️
FYI, Tony (after his dad) is the one who discovered/created vibranium in Iron Man 2
That would've been awesome.
Tldr this would have been pointless especially now that comic tony has a suit made of mysterium. That metal just by existing can bypass the spider sense resist magic, and is too strong for even capitán marvel to break.
Don't forget black widow showed that vibrainum has weakness to electrifal energy in civil war
After the events of Black Panther 1, wasn't Tony in contact with and working with Shuri to develop nanotech? This is my understanding, and would have counted as a member of the Wakandan royal family he could contact after the snap.
Uktrons body was sent to the department of hustice homecomkg they showed ultrons head and tony owned ot at the time.
Clearly Tony should've gotten the super strong ceramic from the Saucer Lips in Wakanda.😉
The strength in his sattalites. And Edith. Like Hulkbuster. Speed and mobility was for quick, more spontaneous actions.
On paper it makes sense that he didn't. The American supply of vibranium was very small, most of it tied up in Captain Americas shield. The Wakandans were also restrictive of its use outside Wakandas borders and any recovered from Ultrons theft would have been returned in good faith. Stark would have to go through a process to acquire any vibranium he used to keep it on the up-and-up and maintain relations with Wakanda, they would also probably have stipulated that it not be used for offensive technologies. He probably also benefitted from other forms of Wakanda technology such as energy shields and nanites as a part of a technology bargain or concession.
Long story short, the Wakandans controlled the supply of vibranium, their vibranium was unique to their geography and as such, it could be identified and returned to their supply if liberated from illegal trade.
Ultrons head was literally in Spider-Man
Yeah and didn’t it have red eyes too?? Whatever happened to that Easter egg!?
ikr, but i think it's just a replica or something
The rarity could have a work around. Stark could have analyzed the years of data and reenforce the areas sustaining the most damage.
OR maybe because Since Tony is Constantly Making new Suits If he put vibranium in one of them hed have to put them in any future suits . since the entire point of making new suits is to make them better not adding vibranium in them wouldnt live up to that . Its probably because tony knew that while making one vibranium suit would be not that costly for him , but him proceeding to use vibranium in his suits would become very costly over time
Interesting theories
Not being a scientist myself, I have a question. Why wouldn’t his nanotechnology be able to form his suit if it was made of vibranium? The nanotechnology works on rearranging the atoms of an item altering whatever into whatever is desired. With nanotechnology I can change a gun into an apple to have a midnight snack.
He had one for a couple episodes in earth’s mightiest heroes when the avengers get scattered through the 9 realms and gets trapped on ndivilir
That wasn’t Vibranium. That was Uru
If Tony was using a Vibranium suit of armor, he might have taken less damage from the snapping incident
it's possible he could use carbotanium, something more malleable than adamantium and the Russians knew how to make it.. so I'm sure Tony could have found the smelting process should he really want to. It.. 'was' radioactive but he could make shielding for that with trace amounts.
You lost me at "Tony wasn't smart enough" @2:27
Technically the "new element" Tony discovered in Iron Man 2 was Vibranium actually, so he could create it without need for Wakanda.
Pretty sure mark 85 from Endgame was vibranium nanotech, as you can see from the shield being the same as wakandan energy shields.
Put simply I think it was impractical to make a suit out of vibranium as it would have prevented certain technologies such as nano technology from reaching their maximum potential due to the limitations of the metal.
A full vibranium suit could also be physically tasking for Stark since he’s a normal human. Only superhumans are shown wearing full vibranium suits
In one of the cartoons I think it was « earths mightiest heroes » there’s an episode where he goes to wakanda with no tech and builds himself a vibration shield
*vibranium
Ultrons head was in Spider-Man homecoming when he got locked in the facility
How bout Uru (Thor's Hammer Metal)?
Thor should have hooked him up with those Star Forge thingies
I still don't get how nanobot projectiles could hurt anyone without fuel for the propulsion & detonation just taking away vast resources from the suit. When Thanos was just tearing off pieces of his armor, like his whole helmet, nanobots had to reroute from his leg. Those nanobots arent limitless & eventually Iron man would eventually be left with the bare minimum, if you could call it that
if you've got a hulk buster suit or more in orbit you can called down, you don't need durability so much
He would have made a Vibranium suite out of curiosity alone.
Tony's PTSD is probably why
I think it's obvious he did consider it, based on the stockpile, but Ultron used it and got his ass kicked. Everyone always says Tony learns from his mistakes. I think in that case, he learned from Ultron's. Of course he could have still made a suit out of it and improved where Ultron failed but Tony is also conceited and I don't think he would want to look like he's copying someone else. Especially someone like Ultron. Idk, maybe it's just something to add to the video about why.
I think Tony did build a vibranum armour but ot for himself, (The Rescue armour).
He would have used vibranum to keep her safe and her suit doesn't seem to be nanites
His name is iron man not vibranium man
imagine if we get mysterium suit live action....... holy shiet that would have been so cool
yk, youd think all this then also think wait, why not a layered suit, one vibranium inner layer thats not too thin, but thin, and one layer of nano tech ontop
I can picture a nanotech suit composed of a vibranium/adamantium alloy...
He did used, watch Avengers 2 again, Tony did bought some vivranium from Klaue
I think he could make an Iron Man Model Prime suit like in the comics out of Vibranium but that is just my opinion.