This is the number one reason, why I would make the switch. If the games & software I use on Windows was compatible with Linux, even if it isn't native but I can run it flawlessly with Bottles.
@@amrishpatel3501 90% of games runs fine, of course it depends on what exactly do you play, but except for anti-cheat locked games (PUBG, Fortnite) most of them work with Proton, so out of the box on Steam
@@MineXplayPL Great, so everything but the most popular games. Try again. Yes, I'm well aware of the massive success of the steam deck. But I'm also someone who recognizes that saying "most of it works, just not the parts most people care about" is a terrible sales pitch.
@@MrGamelover23 It depends what you call "most popular" - CS:GO, Apex Legends, GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2... These work fine and are certainly very popular, but of course I understand, that games like Fortnite, PUBG, Rainbow Six Siege are also popular and don't work because of stupid anti-cheat. I don't play these kind of games so it's not bothering me, but i understand that someone playing mostly these could be disappointed (there is also an option to run a VM with GPU passthrough, but it's a bit more complicated)
What's holding Linux back is three things 1. People hate change 2. Lack of users willing to change 3. And the Linux neckbeards... that want Linux niche... And honorable mention.. People that don't want to give the developers any sort of telemetry.. it's hard to fix crap when the developers cant get any feedback
The Linux territory is pretty much all the determined and enthusiastic software developers are rounded up at a corner. Complete opposite of Windows, especially MacOS where the rest of the least brave people are.
@jernejj5 na people hate change my dude...its that simple...also. if there was money to be made, they would do what you said sell computers with Linux on it... But there's a reason why dell, HP, ETC.. dont there is no money to be made....on the personal computer front....the masses don't want to learn a new system....... it's human nature.... and the example you gave with the consoles is flawed because.... between an Xbox and a PlayStation, all you do is stick a game in it and press play and or download it. It's basically the same difference between both the Xbox and the PlayStation.......there is really nothing to learn. And on the phone front, it's stupid simple... there's really not much to learn about the system...
Chicken and egg problem, users need software in order to take the jump to Linux but developers need users to be inclined to develop software for Linux. Luckily Valve and their Steamdeck are doing some of the heavy lifting for expanding the user base of our beloved Linux!
I switched to Linux because first: privacy and second: security. I just don't have to deal with needing to download apps unsecurely from the browser, and getting a virus on Linux is a lot harder.
@@MichaelNROH It can be, but Linux has at *least* three layers more security than your average Windows install: 1. Most software is from trusted sources. If it is FOSS, it is often available in the package repositories. You are far more likely to find malware on the Windows side, especially given the binary only nature of Windows. 2. Repositories keep your system up to date. Sure, Windows has this too, kind of. But Windows security fixes only cover Windows software while Debian security fixes cover the entire distribution. Not perfect, but it decreases the chance of catching malware further. 3. Outside of installing programs system-wide (a practice we should start to discourage IMO, at least for GUI and single user systems), you very rarely go into root on Linux. Sure, you can, it is there, but most of the time you don't need it. This further decrease the attack space. So Linux is inherently more secure; that does not make it an iron-clad and foolproof secure system though. Still a ways to go, and in the end it doesn't matter how safe your security is, if you keep giving away the code to disable it. :)
@@MichaelNROH For now, I wonder how things will start changing now that more desktop users are turning to Linux 🤔 Would we end up needing anti-malware? 👀
@@wertigon Malware is not an issue when the users themselves cripple their box :) As was said in the video; Linux assumes that you know what you're doing. Most people that use computers don't. If all Windows/Apple users migrate to Linux today it will be total carnage tomorrow.
100% agree on your last take better performance should be advertised first, it was the main reason I joined Linux it probably will be for a lot of other people
I think valve and the gaming community at large has done more to bring new users to Linux than any other. I recently decided to go back to Linux as I am sick and tired of all the gaming related issues I'm having on Windows11, I have a windows dual boot and even windows10 is giving me some problems.. I've been using Linux since the late 90's on and off (I got Nvidia 0.9 Xfree86 drivers working on RedHat Linux 6 and played quake3 arena on it back then). Using Steam, Lutris and bottles over 90% of all my games are playable on Linux and the ones I have trouble with are mainly VR games (Though Halflife Alyx Beatsaber and Boneworks work very well). Its been a week since I have installed OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and I haven't booted to Windows for anything but work in that time.
totally agree. I only play game in windows then god send proton. I don't need windows anymore. nowadays, linux is freaking awesome. all the problem of video, audio, game are a past. Also we have to thank to AMD. in the past, AMD sucks in linux. now AMD is the best graphic driver in linux. so many good changes in short time. now I'm truly free of M$.
@@MrjinZin0902 Nvidia's driver is missing features and has a terrible UI and has to be installed, but once your past all of that performance is actually really good. I play Star Citizen on my PC in OpenSUSE and performance is as good or better than Windows.
Does it still need the Anti-Cheat Fix (Deleting files?). Last time I tried it, it crashed or didn't load into the game. I had issues on Windows as well so I gave up for now
@@MichaelNROH not sure why my reply to this question keeps getting deleted, there is a game install script on the lutris star citizen page provided by the community that resolves that issue among others.
The 90's ... those were the days. Hunting around for the correct Linux drivers for your hardware, then recompiling the kernel because all the device drivers were compiled into the kernel not loadable modules like they are now. Penguin Powa!!! ☺
The Steam Deck will start attracting accessory developers if it does well in Asia. The demand for a multirole portable PC is probably higher there, so Linux native mouse and keyboard drivers will likely follow.
I recently switched my daily driver to Linux Mint. I have used many other distros but i do just love how it looks and works. Don't miss Windows at all.
I honestly think the only way that massive amounts of people would ever adopt Linux, is if vendors sold prebuilts with Linux pre-installed for a cheaper price (as not paying for windows licenses). Most people simply aren't interested in installing something else, just look at the amount of people using default browsers or search engines on all devices.
Most of the Linux pre-installed laptops are expensive Ultrabook or business notebook. It is also mostly US-centric. You may not see a single laptop with Linux pre-installed in indian subcontinent.
I'd entirely agree, but I think something also quite important to add is that, while Linux users make fun of Windows' miles and miles of connected legacy settings windows, windows users can configure just about everything through the GUI, if you want to understand your system better, you can just scroll through and explore it. By contrast, config files, launch parameters, etc. are all far more normalized on linux. These do have advantages, but they also mean new users have a much harder time learning their system fully. (not to mention most linux GUIs simply are less refined. They may look nicer at a glance, but they aren't as well structured and laid out as on windows. MS has entire teams of people dedicated to UX, people with degrees in interface design, everything. Meanwhile the vast majority of people who contribute to linux distros are techies.)
@@aoitsukishiro9926 Well, Debian is certainly much better than before. However, I wouldn't yet put it in the category of "recommend to Window users". There are other well-known distros for that (Ubuntu, Mint mainly). But yea, if and when Debian gets to that point, I'd gladly switch to it.
Unfortunately I deal with a lot of Windows programs that explicitly require administrator rights just to launch. It's really bothersome to make it even worse than force you to fully disable UAC. Causes nothing but headaches and problems
I just switched to Nobara as a life-long Windows user and I am loving it. I'm able to play games just fine with my sons and learning the terminal makes make me feel more comfortable with the system. I also like that Nobara is a Fedora fork so I'm able to implement parental controls for my sons' user login.
I 100% agree. I would love to switch fully to Linux but because my peripherals don't have drivers or software on Linux, I cant use it to its full potential. My Elgato Wave XLR is one of the cases where using it in Linux is just not as great. Its a hard cycle. Some companies don't support Linux because the userbase is small and some people don't use Linux because companies don't support it with drivers and software.
I think most major issues can be fixed by simply choosing an older Kernel in Grub. This is not that hard luckily, and some are even marked as "Recovery". Often, it's just a Kernel thing that breaks due to some broken dependency in a driver
This is probably the main reason why I use Linux. I can tell the system "I know what I'm doing, don't bother me!" I prefer debian text (pseudographic) installer. The only negative is that it asks too many questions at the beginning, before the disk is partitioned. It may turn out that all the information entered will be useless if something goes wrong during partitioning. I also like the installer in ubuntu-based distributions. I don't like anaconda, mainly because it becomes unusable with low screen resolutions (on older systems sometimes you have to use safe graphics low resolution mode).
I would also say that Linux lacks easy to use Recovery tools. If after an update or some mistake stuff a casual user might do, if the system doesn't boot you are thrown into grub recovery and the user is all by itself with ZERO help. If you delete any required system files and break your desktop environment, you are on a login terminal, all by yourself. If you mess up partitions, you are all by yourself. Even if you change something on any DE settings and want to revert to the default settings, most DEs lack a "restore default settings" tool. Today anyone can easily install Linux. But Linux is still extremely easy to break and blow up. And it's still the same nightmare it was in the 2000's when it comes to recovering your install without losing data. Windows literally has automatic recovery tools on almost anything. If you GPU driver crashes, windows auto restarts it. If it gets corrupted, it falls back into windows basic gpu driver, whatever you do, you NEVER lose you display image. You NEVER have to go into any terminal. Wifi or sound breaks? Windows tries to fix it in the background, and sooner than later your sound is back and you wont even notice it crashed. Your boot got messed up? Windows auto reinstalls his MBR and you almost wont notice that anything was wrong, it just randomly took extra time to boot but nothing else. An update goes wrong? Windows automatically rolls back the whole update and tries again later. This... this is what we need on Linux. Nowadays it's not that hard to get users into Linux, but it's almost impossible to keep them unless they like nerdy terminal problem solutions... Some distros like Deepin or PopOS have some recovery tools which is an awesome start, but still something almost no linux/distro dev gives importance yet...
@@manolol1119 Look up Fedora Silverblue, Clear Linux from Intel, Opensuse micrOS, Endless OS. It is easier rollback to previous working image in these distros.
Modern UEFI systems you don’t even need to change the boot order. At least on my particular system, in the save and exit tab, you can just click on whichever device to boot from it. In the future we’ll need to disable pluton from the UEFI interface as well though. Another hurdle MicroShlong will soon be enforcing.
I think the easiest way to tackle this problem is, to encourage secure boot on Linux and prove, that Microsoft has no security advantage with their solution. Secure boot is already doing what it's designed for
At 4:50 you're right. Only linux distros that are major and have a large userbase are Ubuntu and Fedora. The rest expects you to look at their own documentation.
I use Pop!_OS now and I was able to resolve an issue using documentation from the Ask Ubuntu forum. It's like a less shitty version of Ubuntu. Linux Mint and Pop!_OS are my two recommendations for new Linux users.
Yes. A majority of that certainly comes from the fact that SteamOS is now based on Arch and a lot of people switched. But since Steam does not collect data themselves but rely on feedback (or at least they say so), it depends
My opinion is that the best way to get new Linux users is to convince people to use FOSS apps. Once they are familiar with that set of software, switching to Linux will be much easier because they will already be comfortable with the apps that are available.
Some people just don't want to use other programs And some people HAVE to use some programs. Let's say that you work on a design company. They WILL require you to use the same software as other people.
Companies have a different problem. A lot of them could switch, but a lot of open source companies or programs lack professional support (commercial), which can bring problems, because there cannot be any downtime. There are more sides to this, then just being "generic"
If MS office and Adobe suite were available for Linux, we would see more users. A decent number of professionals would have used Linux for their professional work.
The performance aspect is a huge plus for me as well! I have some issues with Linux, specifically on the recording or game modding aspect, but it has been a godsend for getting games I love to run perfectly. I avidly play apex legends and struggle to get the game to run at my refresh rate smoothly on maps like Storm Point. FSR, however, has let me run at a lower resolution while keeping the game looking great on my 1440p monitor. The way that Proton-GE implemted FSR also makes it completely seamless and I have no noticeable input lag. It's honestly quite amazing- the only use I have for windows anymore is recording gameplay or screensharing games through discord.
I wish I could get rid of my dual boot but unfortunately I play some games where EAC isn't working in Linux. I daily drive Nobara and only go to windows for certain games.
Definitely needs more users that's for sure, at the same time though it really needs people to stop getting so hung up on using the official software that may or may not come over. Heck it'd be great if we could get more businesses and schools to switch over and report all the issues they have. I'm just glad now with fedora/nobara for me and the deck things just work. Eventually I'm going to get a deck or one of the clones that's basically the same thing. But probably use nobara on it instead along with some hacks to function like the deck. Linux definitely still has a long way to go but nowhere near as obtuse when I originally started using it back in 2009-2010 before fully diving into it a few years back...
Heck I want to make a universal post install script with ansible that makes things easier for people. I just gotta replace my motherboard since it got busted somehow with the ram clips and not sure what else....
I like Linux because I'm a computer science student and my classmates think I'm smart and know what I'm doing if I use Linux. (the caveat is that I have no idea what I am doing whatsoever)
Yes, love how you are covering Linux. I've not taken the jump yet, but I'm planning on moving from Windows to Linux -- in a more serious fashion. But, I do agree with so many of your points. It's very helpful to have a channel like yours that covers these topics and helps us see that Linux can be a path-forward for us. For me, now, the intimation factor has lessened more-so, and I feel that I can step out of Windows and come over to the Dark Side. And, Chris Titus really helped me with that -- a few years back.
. You said developers need feedback from users, and I agree. Although Linux users are a small proportion of the total of PC users, I think there is a lot more engagement with developers from those users, and developers are more interested in what they have to say. Windows clearly don't seem to care what users want. I came to Linux over two years ago because I detested Windows10, and Windows7 was becoming obsolete. (My new motherboard can't even run Windows7). They say: "the squeaky wheel gets the oil", and so I think we should be more vocal in complaining to AMD, Nvidia, Huion, Logitec, etc, and they will become more Linux-friendly, if only to shut us up. My message to manufacturers is: "if it doesn't work on Linux, I'm not buying your product". Sure, we're only 2% of the market, but in some cases, that's millions of dollars in potential lost sales. Keep up the good work, Michael.
Hello: Interesting your video. It seems to me that nowadays Gnu Linux has made great advances to make it easier to use, especially for newcomers. I disagree about Fedora, I would not recommend it for newcomers. I find Zorin Os (which is the one I use), Linux Mint and Ubuntu to be better options. Greetings and success.
Recently it's been suggested to me that Fedora would be better than Mint, which is what I usually suggest to newbies. So it's interesting to hear disagreements with that as I don't use either. Although I would like to suggest what I use to people who convert, I realize that that wouldn't be feasible since it's too much for a newbie. If only I could set it up for them they could just use it and forget. As long as you don't install a bunch of software, not updating is often perfectly fine and can yield more than adequate functionality.
The question is, what does better mean? All of them are quite usable out of the box. Is a native or custom DE better? Is better a wide selection of apps better? The truth is, they are all equally usable, just different. Like MacOS and Windows when not considering compatibility but the overall feel.
@@MichaelNROH For a newbie, I would say that better is works out of the box with good defaults. The less you have to adjust from the start, the better. Especially for finicky people who are determined to hate it because "Windows just works" even while they're coping with every little problem that Windows has. I've heard good feedback on Mint and Fedora. Not so much for Ubuntu these days.
@@MichaelNROH Fedora promotes new things like pipewire, wayland, etc. So newbies can get really confused after upgrading to a new fedora release - why doesn't my nvidia card perform better or why doesn't my sound work after upgrading? Whereas mint keeps using same things like pulseaudio and xorg. Windows also hasn't changed things - ntfs, control panel, file manager, etc is similar to it's old versions.
Yes! We are living in an age when ads and building hype matter more than the actual product. Linux has taken a right step on adopting gaming, now it is time for more reasons to appeal to more people.
Uhm, I doubt the reverse was ever the case. At least not at a whole-society level. There's just to much different areas for everyone to be familiar with each niche topic, so people naturally fall in either the 'don't care' or the 'hype' category. Though yes, it's quite possible that social media has turned a 'let's ask someone knowledgeable' into a 'let's check out what _$platform_ thinks' for all the people that don't care that much
you are absolutely right.. linux needs advertisement.. for example don't interrupt your work when updating your whole system.. this could be the biggest selling point for me..
It would be nice if it would work outside the terminal tough. Many GUI solutions want a reboot for updating since it tends to work better for some dependencies. Cannot recommend it for newcomers yet
@@MichaelNROH i dont quite remember but i didnt see the offline update future anywhere else but fedora and kde neon.. and kde neon's can be disabled. maybe it is a new trend i dont know
The first time I Instantly switched from the inside of a game to a different workspace with i3 window manager made my jaw drop on the floor for like an hour. then I was able to make my note and return to the game with NO milisecond hiccup. I will never return to windows.
When i researched stuff about linux before i switched like a year ago, I didn't care really about the privacy stuff, and i still don't really, i was just interested in finding out if i can play all the games i like on it. So I 100% agree with your point.
The biggest problem of linux is people who proactively refuse to learn anything then whining that linux is to hard but they try it anyways because they break their windows installs by install garbage / scam software or not doing any maintenance at all. I'have seen crazy things on people pc's and laptops.
True, but it shouldn't stop usability improvements. People who refuse to learn, will sooner or later as long as it is not too hard (e.g. complaining about Win10 and only temporarily staying on Win7). Learning a GUI can be done by exploring. Learning the terminal basically googling, since not everything is always clear from help commands.
I just started using Fedora 36 KDE Spin and thoroughly enjoy it. BUT I have tried a couple games with wine and lutris. The issue I have is AMD 4k hardware with 27" monitor is very difficult as the screen resolution 3840 x 2160 is not supported on a lot of older and Indy games. They were all completely playable on Win10. I have to use Windows for gaming and Fedora for everything else. I hope this gets better as I want to ditch Micky$oft.
What exactly does not work? The resolutions are not available, or the upscaling does not work? If it's the second one, then you should check your monitor settings. Scaling is usually done by the display and not the gpu
Distributions do their own packaging for very good reasons imo. Yes, it would be great if more of that work was shared between them, but switching absolutely everything to Flatpak or something, is not the way. It would just break the everything because a lot of system-level software needs to interoperate and just be configured uniformly.
Flatpak is just A solution, not the perfect one by any means. I prefer "native" package formats like rpm, deb, etc. myself and look into mainly using them, unless it is not maintained by actual developer (OBS for example). But that being said, most user-space applications don't need system-level access. Dependencies and all that are more of a problem, but I think that we are going to find a solution for that as well at some point. The most ideal way would be for a developer to publish their application once, and the dependencies get pulled from local repos, even tough, from a technical perspective, that would be hard to do. Versioning and all that
Is hating all kinds of installers also an option? I think that the Arch installation process really hits the sweetspot where you can basically do everything yourself but without being unnecessarily complicated. This of course doesn't mean that everyone has to prefer manual installation, I've just come to view installers as unreliable and inflexible.
I also like more detailed installers personally. Even though I would only recommend distros with cut-down ones for beginners, advanced users should really use the more advanced ones. I've installed Debian countless times already and it's basically muscle memory now, even with manual partioning.
Still waiting for Linux drivers for universal audio interfaces, currently seems like an unreasonable dream for now cus the lack of users. The only thing still keeping me on windows as the main driver.
There are some who can do this by providing more in- and outputs instead of using driver-routing. That's a good approach, but has downsides like cost and the amount of cables used
The biggest benefit i see to linux is stability. Lets be honest, the desktop environment in Windows sucks, and sometimes it simply crashes, which can take a significant length of time to fix. I never have that problem with GNOME. The other stability benefit is Linux requires your password to do anything which could harm your computer, which prevents most malware, and thats a big advantage to Windows of chrome OS.
So does it on Windows. The difference now is, that Windows chooses the Administrator based on the first account created. Others are being asked for the administrator password. Not sure if it was done for convinience or if Microsoft assumed that the first user is more responsible and never changed it.
@@MichaelNROH I think Microsoft is actually doing it to benefit the antivirus business, and it makes sense, the problem with the default admin account is that most software is meant to only be installed and run with admin rights, because of this if you are under a standard user account you can face several incompatibilities with some applications, e,g Android "emulators", which is pretty bad.
Mice are still unfortunately an issue but on the keyboard side QMK + VIA shows how it's done: full open source firmware which can be graphically configured using a browser without installing a single local piece of software. And almost all medium to highend custom keyboards support it.
The biggest problem with Linux is incompatibility. There are so many projects doing their own thing that nothing works well together. Look at how different base distros are, the different distros themselves even if they are based upon the samd base distro, the different desktop environments, the different desktop environment versions, and so on. As one project that gets updated, it breaks compatibilty with others. A great example is just trying to basic theme change. Things that work with Gnome 41 does not work with Gnome 42. But you say the issue is no users to give feedback, this is very difficult when new people do ask for help after they give up trying old, outdated guides, they tend to get a smart a$$ reaponse of something like rtfm or use Google.
This happens because there is no a proper theming API in virtually any operating system, themes that breaks the look and feel of applications happens even with Android customization layers, modularity like everything has its advantages and disadvantages, just remember that the only alternative to this issuue is the dictatorship that is iOS, which is no better. Even if the entire Linux ecosystem wanted to, it would be impossible for there to be just a single DE, WM, and widget toolkit, because the existence of more UNIX-like operating systems like those of the BSD family, Illumos, and proprietary UNIX themselves won't allow it, as soon as that is achieved, someone in BSD land will think of creating their own DE with differentiated technologies, and there will be those who port it to Linux, just like what happened with Lumina Desktop. Furthermore, this will not guarantee the triumph of Linux on the desktop, on the contrary, the free software community will abandon it in favor of the second most used open source OS, which is FreeBSD, apart from the fact that if being successful on the desktop was that easy, not only would Windows be dead a long time ago, but we would also be facing that same compatibility problem much more generally, at the level of what is happening now with streaming services. We would be in a compatibility and exclusivity nightmare where you will be forced to have several computers just to run x apps that is essential in your work.
Nothing is wrong with Debian as a Desktop honestly. For some cases and especially slightly old hardware I definitely would prefer Debian + XFCE rather than Fedora or Ubuntu, mostly because Debian is absolutely trouble free and rock stable. Yes, you won't get the latest desktop environments, but you also wouldn't have to deal with stabilisation period after new desktop releases which might take few monthes.
I like it, but I also said I like a blank canvas to build upon. I've started to build upon it with minor changes. Besides the Blur and panel extension it's basically default
kinda wish i could buy a 1 time licens for a linux based destop os -if it ment it would make a distro maker/devs able to have a clear vision /resources to be awsome . linux devs deserve to be paid
Great video! I've been using Linux for over 5 years, but held onto Windows for a while, purely for gaming. I didn't take me long to realise that Linux was actually better - my personal benchmark, Minecraft, runs about 40-50% better! Steams's support of Linux has also allowed me to play most of my favourite games... and you guessed it - faster and smoother than on Windows!
Wow, one of the most sold games of all time runs and now works better on Linux? Ok, now try play some more niche games the normies aren't playing. Ah, game crashes, multiplayer refuses to work because of DRM anti cheat, and so on. It is NOT a replacement for Windows.
@@portman8909 Give it time. I only use Minecraft as an example because it is a reliable benchmark. I never implied that Linux is better for everyone - just my own experience. I'm not a multiplayer, so I can't respond to that, but other games like Stranded Deep, Subnautica - both very heavy on resources, seem to run better in a Linux environment for me.
Honestly great video, no need for a disclaimer. People are going to find something to get mad about when the topic makes the uncomfortable. Everything you said was pretty spot on. A lot of Linux user have a snobbish way of looking down on other OS. This isolates new users, but new user keeps development and innovation moving. I love Linux but I’ve had so many random issues that if I wasn’t as patient as I am I would have switched back to windows weeks ago lol. And our community can be a bit toxic. We shouldn’t berate people for asking simple questions. Anywho keep up the good work.
I want to love Linux, but display scaling and performance is holding me back. I love fedora and it's so nice to use, but I feel like I have to fight with it if I want to get certain things done. since I've always been an advanced windows hacker, I've gotten my way with windows and gotten it to a performance level I'm happy with. I really like the way Linux is heading. I'd love to be able to switch to it fulltime at some point in the future, I just don't think I'm ready for it at it's current state. also I want a better day/night theme changer than yin&yang.
i was a windows user for a very long time and i faced issues with windows its slow and its always crashing and recovering data on windows is a nightmare and windows has idiotic updates and with windows 11 out its even more worse most people cant afford hardware compatibility computers for windows 11 it costs around 15 thousand dollars in my local currency so i switched to linux i started with zorin os and it was very easy to use and get used to after some time i went and sticked with KDE Plasma even kubuntu is easy to use i had zero idea how to use the terminal so i watched a few videos about it and today i know exactly what to do and how to do it and all it toke was a month. windows is just the worse thing im glad its out of my life no more lagging no more slowness and definitely no more idiotic updates
a lot of linux users and developers assume people know what they are doing and ignore concepts like: learning curve. for example, if you open gimp, you may not know what this program is capable of doing, but at least you have a lot of menus that you can click to see what they do, if you let an kid who never used an computer before , using it, the kid will figure out and start learning how to use by trial and error. now try to do the same with an terminal (any): open it, without knowing any command, how far can you get? at mininum an terminal should say something like: type help for a list of commands, and man for an tutorial on how to use then. example: man ls
Recently I've installed Fedora based distro (Nobara) for the first time and no, it wasn't a good experience. Installer is kind of bad, I decided not to create a root user since I haven't had one for ages. You need explanation for a new user - they will probably create just root. It was a Windows machine before, I wanted it installed on the ssd and left the hdd for data. Partitioning tool is a piece of trash. It wanted bigger swap than I've created (which it completely ignored). Million issues arose before I've decided to simply wipe the ssd and start over. Then it wanted to install to the hdd automatically. After I've forced it to the ssd, finally, it installed. That hdd though was the sole ownership of the root user I haven't created. Let's say an ah barrage user migrating to Linux wouldn't have a chance setting the secondary hard drive to automount as write and execute, at least without a root account. So yeah, the installer is a pig, it's ignoring completely normal use cases and it does assume you do understand some things about Linux - which a newcomer won't understand. Then they will either start distro hopping, or they'll go back to Windows which just works. Probably the second, unless they are very young and don't have many obligations in their lives. It was a long rant, I know, but I actually enjoy the system and want to see it getting a wider adoption. It needs a way, way better installer.
Mounting drives is kinda stupid on Desktop Linux. I mean I get it for servers and it makes a ton of sense but why wouldn't I want to mount everything on a Desktop Distro? Luckily there are several ways to mount them, even with a GUI if preferred. But like you said, issues can still happen
@@martinpankov2736 I'm new to Fedora, not to Linux itself. I was quite interested in experimenting with Linux gaming, so Nobara seemed logical. Wife wanted Sims 4 as well.
@@youzernejm I did not say that you need a distro for new users. I offered you a distro that works. Not like Nobara. Ultramarine Linux is the best desktop distro, that is based on Fedora. As you may know, Wine can be used on Fedora and other distros for gaming. So, you can install it on Ultramarine and play Sims.
@@martinpankov2736 I know, but after numerous issues with wine and lts distros, I wanted to see if Nobara will be substantially better. The base fedora installer was pretty bad though, I've had better experience with Suse and Mandriva installers million years ago. I will check out Ultramarine though, thanks, I am currently on a hunt for something rolling yet stable, thanks.
Calamares is more intuitive and graphical than Anaconda, even more Calamares do for us all volume structure when detects root partition with Btrfs system file, and I could mention more advantages...
tbh i prefer the native installers that some distros provide, I've had very bad experiences with Calamares, and thanks to Calamares my PC got bricked for no reason.
i have been using linux for at least 10 years, but i don't go near the terminal. i am too old to learn how, as i never learned about windows. i just install and use. that part is easy. just click on stuff and it works. and it's free! what's not to like? if i could switch to linux, you can too.
What I understand from your video is if I want to switch to Linux I should learn terminal first. And to use Windows or Mac I don't need to know CLI. So if don't know about my computer I should never switch. Happy Windowing 😊
I think we should make a clear line between "support" and "opensource" here, as supporting isn't compulsory going opensource, and while I would love to see more opensource drivers, I don't think we should push the companies to opensource or dictate them how to do business.
One thing I think is a problem with the gaming industry is that games are mostly closed source. If all of the engines and game code were open source, the main assets could be sold the way a book is, and if you had a copy of the game engine on your platform of choice, playing the game would be as simple as buying a book online, downloading it to the correct folder or telling the engine where it was and presto. That would truly break barriers for a LOT of people.
I bevlieve that games need to stay closed source tbh. I'm not talking about the API's that make it run, but the actual gameplay coding. Reason being is, that people are going to copy it. Yes there are some regulations in place, but no one can stop big developers ruin indie studios. As I said, proprietary is not bad as long as it doesn't limit functionality
@@MichaelNROH For game specific coding, yeah, I agree, but it should be treated like an asset and not binary blobbed like closed source drivers. It would possibly affect game performance to do it that way, but if the requirement to not affect performance was to have a C++ compiler on hand and the game code was available as part of an asset pack, then I would say requirement met. And I wouldn't be opposed to them including it in both binary and source form for those that don't want to take the time and effort to compile. As for corporations versus indie developers, I don't think that's going to be stopped by closed source because the corporation can just hire some developers to recreate it and they're done. It'll probably always be that way.
For me the issue with Linux is typing and language. I first got involved in computers with Windows 95, DOS never made much sense to me. Point and click worked. The ways I think are visual and kinesthetic. I have great difficulty connecting a typed out string of characters on a screen with an action or process or even some kind of meaning. Visual representations of file folders/trees and program icons are much easier to understand. Similarly, as a speaker of English (and a bit of Spanish) when I was in Egypt briefly, something as simple as a street sign was completely unintelligible: "WTF is a kernel and why/how do I need to compile it?" Fortunately I guess, I ran Win98 for years, and became near expert at reloading and trouble shooting due to having to reload the crappy OS every couple months.That experience allowed me to follow directions fairly well and taught me to use the command line for brief instructions. I tried Redhat, Mandrake, and Mint. All had hardware compatibility issues, which remained mysterious as to how to deal with them. Then I found BeOS, and loved it...then it was murdered.Back to Linux...I guess I am saying it is like learning a foreign language AND an OS simultaneously. Some sort of Rosetta Stone is needed. If everyone that drove a car had to know how to tear it apart and repair every assembly, almost nobody would be driving a car.
You don't get it. Why do we want Linux and not Windows? We want a free and private Operating system. Why even switch from Windows if not for that. It's important for the people to understand and incorperate these values. It's important for humanity, society and our future.
I disagree on this. Sure, it will attract companies that have proprietary stuff. But on Windows or Mac, they don't really care about how they release code as long as it is easy. Linux is already known for open source but is not used as common. They need to adapt to this new form of distributing packages more openly once the user numbers are here, since otherwise, other solutions might be better. It's all about reaching an end user, a customer which is willing to pay for support or a piece of hardware
I see myself as a technical user and even to me, the legal freedom of FLOSS is a bonus, not a selling point. What initially attracted me to and kept me on Linux were: - Smooth performance on underpowered/outdated hardware. It let me revive an old Windows machine for a few years and it ended up being more useful than Windows. - Efficient, simple and automatable utility through UNIX standard facilities like pipes, data operations and cronjobs (thanks to Luke Smith for successfully advertising it) - Strict standardization/Interoperability. When something breaks, I don't need to rely on the vendor for documentation, the standard spec usually suffices to fix the problem. Similarly, when there's a better solutuon I can easily swap it. - Reliability in troubleshooting. People in this very comment section moan that Windows has all these automatic recovery tools but when Linux breaks, you can just use Linux itself to fix it. Your desktop freezes on Windows? Better hit that cold reset. On Linux? Ctrl+Alt+F2 and you have a terminal, not to mention the magic SysRqs. It's like driving on manual transmission: It's not as easy or comfortable but it's reliable and controlled. There seems to also be a problem in the business world that being free of charge (and let's admit it, that's the definition of free peiple will care most for) somehow implies lack of quality to a lit of people, such that companies will throw money at a proprietary solution that is far inferior in everything except maybe a polished UI. It's an old stereotype but it still lingers.
@@MichaelNROH I worry that Linux will live to become the villian itself. Which it already kind of does. I hope for a future where you can freely switch between operating system according to your needs without having to worry about software compatibility. Linux won't be our final destition. I want a future where you can run your software on linux, bsd, hurd or other unix like operating systems. Or maybe something completly new. There should not be 1 operating system to rule them all. It should be a diverse market. Software should be free from companies. It's development should be lead indipendantly and maybe finatially supported by companies ie. paying indipendant developers to contribute to opensource projects. Software licences should be a thing of the past. Everyone and i mean everyone should be able to use any software anywhere. And you should only pay for a service. If someone produce something you pay for that produce. For example you pay for a service that hosts a password manager. They host and maintain the infrastructure and you can use it. Like Bitwarden for example. But the service should not own the code.
OMG Yes, love Fedora, but that Anaconda partitioning can use some work. Installers like Calamares and whatever Pop!_OS is using are probably the best from my experience.
I moved my office machines over to linux a couple years ago when Win7 ceased support. Was pleasantly surprised how well it worked as a gaming machine for old Windows games as well. Learned about proton, etc, and was sold on using Linux for the future, but keeping my Win7 machine around for some compatibility issues. Then Win11 came out and the OS as a service was revealed. After that, yeah, no, my next machine, gaming or otherwise, WILL be Linux, even if it means I can't play certain things I wanted to play. What surprised me is when I pointed this out to others and tried to sell them on trying linux because they'll have to learn it down the road anyways, they agreed and then didn't do anything. People will blindly follow the path before them until it dead-ends it seems.
Linux distros have a huge problem on providing a way for the developers release proprietary apps (that are 90% of them) We need something like Android Studio for flatpaks, and a store that don't require the project source to build it inside their servers. Deploying a program for linux should be like this -> Make the app on the IDE -> The IDE exports the Flatpak bundle -> You upload that to the store -> Put your price -> Done
Flathub is working on vendor varification, payment/donation support etc. You can use your own build system, CI etc. There might be different repo for Foss and proprietary softwares.
You know, about users being able to break something and need in trusted packages, we've got it solved right now and it's actually a future of Linux distributions - Immutable Distros, like Fedora Silverblue, where all the software is distributed through flatpak and super user's rights are taken away. Redhat is testing this model on fedora Silverblue, Ubuntu is going there with their snaps and everybody understands that one day all Linux distributions except for old school Mint or Arch are going to be like this. Steam Deck is also an example of such devices - all the software is installed through the Steam and users don't need to get out of Steam.
I love the Stockholm syndrome intro you made, because you *know* that the Linux community will tear you apart as soon as you even imply Linux isn't perfect 🤣 But yeah jokes aside, I hope Linux takes over soon because I'm super sick of W10 and W11.
Im Astonished with Open Source Apps Too....i used to test Windows files by Wine, BUT Linux Apps are Modern ...Windows ones looks like on Stone Age ..we can Feel Self Asure about use Linux Only now...including tbe Office Suites...Graphical Design...Multimedia Apps....
User adoption is a massive issue which I can no longer blame the lack of software support for. On top of what you have pointed out, at the end of the day most people want a machine that works and gets their job done. This in my opinion is a point where Linux can really shine, especially to those with a low income or perfectly fine machine which for really weird reasons no longer works with current Windows versions unless you modify it. Like really? Skylake and Zen 1 do no longer work without workarounds unless you get hands on a TPM module? Are you kidding me? At work we discuss whether I should give an introduction course to computers for colleagues who are interested. I'd be interested in going beyond the typical turn on the machine, this is the desktop and click here for Office and there for Internet stuff. Linux too could be a consideration since I know for certain that I have many colleagues in the company I work for that fear or have no idea of what computers really are nor how they properly use these. Taking away the fear by telling them not to listen to marketing BS and saving some money by using FOSS software could really help. But of course I too want to talk about Windows 10, 11 and Android as this is what the majority uses and how to get used to these systems. Right now I fear Android is even worse than Linux though because of all the various vendors, versions and launchers :,D
I wouldn't say Nvidia drivers on Linux are bad, quite the opposite actually. Nvidia has quite a bit of Linux exclusive software, mostly AI research related stuff, which is not what you would typically even bother to know as a basic desktop user. Nvidia has no reason to make really bad drivers for Linux. What's terrible is how you interact with the drivers and how they work with both X11 (screen tearing oof) and Wayland (still not fully supported yet, although there have been massive improvements lately). What's gonna be essential for the desktop user in the next couple of years is full Wayland and Pipewire support and function parity, whether you use Nvidia or AMD cards. Then everything else should follow
I keep reading that some developer get too much feed back from Linux user but they won't do anything as user share to small for them to put time and money in. Over all it's no one going to like it, but I think Linux user will explore ones Steam deck hits in china and some gorvement reason on banned windows software.
Well much feedback does not mean a voice. I like to differ between individuals and groups who give feedback directly to the developer and the "average" user who likes to complain on social media as well as contact support
It is not bye bye, there's timeshift, if you have ext4, if you have btrfs there's snapshot on timeshift or other snapshot app which is the god of restoration
Depends on what you do. My showcase is not necessarily the thing that destroys everything. If a new user blatantly uses root it can lead to permanent data loss.
@@MichaelNROH There are distros like garuda, or spiral linux which use automatic snapshots ootb, whenever you update the system or maybe even when you change lot of data at the same time a new snapshot is created, so if you do some stupid things like deleting all root files or other important stuff, you can just reboot and boot the previous system state from the old snapshots.
The only problem i have with Linux is kernel level anticheat in games witch has been a pain in the ass for pretty much every linux user making us the complicated things like a vm with gpu passthrough and use macos in a vm for anticheats that detect it and if a game detcts A vm after you spoofed it and isnt avalible on macos your out of luck
Three major probs with Linux hampering popularity: #1 Stupid names. Gimp? Gnome? #2 Ugly distros. Zorin is the only one that looks like a commercial OS. #3 Chrome-phobia. 80% of Windows users spend 90% of their time on Chrome. It should be the standard browser but it takes some tweaks to get it working properly. Me? I use Zorin + Chrome. Cool name, beautiful looking, world standard browser.
If you want a """"standard""" web browser, go back to the 2000s where you had Internet Explorer with 95% of the market share, where almost 100% of web sites only worked fine in IE.
My biggest and only problem so far with Linux is Teams, Microsoft Teams. Yeah, I know it's not linux fault or anything and I know Microsoft will always want the people to use Windows, but seriously, this is the only thing that keeps me stuck in Windows. I know there's a PWA version of Teams, but I have meetings where I must share my screen and this won't always work on Linux despite using Xorg, it is just not reliable and I can't just not share my screen correctly in my daily work. Gaming seems fine, I love how Linux looks and feels, but I can't trust the penguin or Microsoft to work on it :/
Or maybe don't, use Linux if it works for you, no need to be evangelizing anyone. they will figure it out. I been using Linux 95% of the time for the last 20? years and we used to be 0.1% of the market and everyone ignored us.. now a days it not that bad, and i suspect the trend will keep on going up. Developers used to be able to complete ignore Linux, now a days its completely impossible to do so, even if some specific software continues to do so, but even mac/windows have software only for one platform.
4:40 ah DONT take the word of that site and many others.. for multiple reasons. 1. Ah android os is built using the linux kernel... period. What's the majority of the smartphone market ...PLANET..wide? Android. 2. This isn't 2015 or 2016 let alone 2010 anymore Things have changed. Dxvk Vulkan Proton Wine improvements Steam Lutris Heroic Launcher The list goes on involving why gaming on Linux has now been a reality for many years now. Contrary to what many may think...the number of Linux users is really more like 9 to 10 percent
Android is not considered being Linux as in an operating system. Yes Linux is technically a Kernel but can also be referred to when talking about Open Source Operating Systems based on it. And that's it. Android has a lot of proprietary things and is not really that open source besides the Kernel. If you switch the Windows Kernel to Linux, it would still be Windows, and not considered Linux in statistics.
I 100% agree with you.
Linux needs to be promoted with performance and compatibility for games/software in mind.
This is the number one reason, why I would make the switch. If the games & software I use on Windows was compatible with Linux, even if it isn't native but I can run it flawlessly with Bottles.
@@amrishpatel3501 90% of games runs fine, of course it depends on what exactly do you play, but except for anti-cheat locked games (PUBG, Fortnite) most of them work with Proton, so out of the box on Steam
@@MineXplayPL Great, so everything but the most popular games. Try again. Yes, I'm well aware of the massive success of the steam deck. But I'm also someone who recognizes that saying "most of it works, just not the parts most people care about" is a terrible sales pitch.
@@MrGamelover23 It depends what you call "most popular" - CS:GO, Apex Legends, GTA V, Cyberpunk 2077, RDR2... These work fine and are certainly very popular, but of course I understand, that games like Fortnite, PUBG, Rainbow Six Siege are also popular and don't work because of stupid anti-cheat.
I don't play these kind of games so it's not bothering me, but i understand that someone playing mostly these could be disappointed (there is also an option to run a VM with GPU passthrough, but it's a bit more complicated)
What's holding Linux back is three things
1. People hate change
2. Lack of users willing to change
3. And the Linux neckbeards... that want Linux niche...
And honorable mention..
People that don't want to give the developers any sort of telemetry.. it's hard to fix crap when the developers cant get any feedback
True words.
The Linux territory is pretty much all the determined and enthusiastic software developers are rounded up at a corner. Complete opposite of Windows, especially MacOS where the rest of the least brave people are.
@jernejj5 na people hate change my dude...its that simple...also. if there was money to be made, they would do what you said sell computers with Linux on it...
But there's a reason why dell, HP, ETC.. dont there is no money to be made....on the personal computer front....the masses don't want to learn a new system....... it's human nature.... and the example you gave with the consoles is flawed because.... between an Xbox and a PlayStation, all you do is stick a game in it and press play and or download it. It's basically the same difference between both the Xbox and the PlayStation.......there is really nothing to learn.
And on the phone front, it's stupid simple... there's really not much to learn about the system...
Chicken and egg problem, users need software in order to take the jump to Linux but developers need users to be inclined to develop software for Linux.
Luckily Valve and their Steamdeck are doing some of the heavy lifting for expanding the user base of our beloved Linux!
I switched to Linux because first: privacy and second: security. I just don't have to deal with needing to download apps unsecurely from the browser, and getting a virus on Linux is a lot harder.
That's because most viruses are targeted at users and windows yeah.
Malware can still be a problem if targeted at the right user.
@@MichaelNROH It can be, but Linux has at *least* three layers more security than your average Windows install:
1. Most software is from trusted sources. If it is FOSS, it is often available in the package repositories. You are far more likely to find malware on the Windows side, especially given the binary only nature of Windows.
2. Repositories keep your system up to date. Sure, Windows has this too, kind of. But Windows security fixes only cover Windows software while Debian security fixes cover the entire distribution. Not perfect, but it decreases the chance of catching malware further.
3. Outside of installing programs system-wide (a practice we should start to discourage IMO, at least for GUI and single user systems), you very rarely go into root on Linux. Sure, you can, it is there, but most of the time you don't need it. This further decrease the attack space.
So Linux is inherently more secure; that does not make it an iron-clad and foolproof secure system though. Still a ways to go, and in the end it doesn't matter how safe your security is, if you keep giving away the code to disable it. :)
@@MichaelNROH For now, I wonder how things will start changing now that more desktop users are turning to Linux 🤔
Would we end up needing anti-malware? 👀
@@wertigon Malware is not an issue when the users themselves cripple their box :)
As was said in the video; Linux assumes that you know what you're doing. Most people that use computers don't. If all Windows/Apple users migrate to Linux today it will be total carnage tomorrow.
A computer is lake an AC unit. It becomes useless when you open windows.
-Linus Torvalds
100% agree on your last take better performance should be advertised first, it was the main reason I joined Linux it probably will be for a lot of other people
I think valve and the gaming community at large has done more to bring new users to Linux than any other. I recently decided to go back to Linux as I am sick and tired of all the gaming related issues I'm having on Windows11, I have a windows dual boot and even windows10 is giving me some problems.. I've been using Linux since the late 90's on and off (I got Nvidia 0.9 Xfree86 drivers working on RedHat Linux 6 and played quake3 arena on it back then). Using Steam, Lutris and bottles over 90% of all my games are playable on Linux and the ones I have trouble with are mainly VR games (Though Halflife Alyx Beatsaber and Boneworks work very well). Its been a week since I have installed OpenSUSE Tumbleweed and I haven't booted to Windows for anything but work in that time.
totally agree. I only play game in windows then god send proton. I don't need windows anymore. nowadays, linux is freaking awesome. all the problem of video, audio, game are a past. Also we have to thank to AMD. in the past, AMD sucks in linux. now AMD is the best graphic driver in linux. so many good changes in short time. now I'm truly free of M$.
@@MrjinZin0902 Nvidia's driver is missing features and has a terrible UI and has to be installed, but once your past all of that performance is actually really good. I play Star Citizen on my PC in OpenSUSE and performance is as good or better than Windows.
Does it still need the Anti-Cheat Fix (Deleting files?).
Last time I tried it, it crashed or didn't load into the game. I had issues on Windows as well so I gave up for now
@@MichaelNROH not sure why my reply to this question keeps getting deleted, there is a game install script on the lutris star citizen page provided by the community that resolves that issue among others.
The 90's ... those were the days. Hunting around for the correct Linux drivers for your hardware, then recompiling the kernel because all the device drivers were compiled into the kernel not loadable modules like they are now. Penguin Powa!!! ☺
The Steam Deck will start attracting accessory developers if it does well in Asia. The demand for a multirole portable PC is probably higher there, so Linux native mouse and keyboard drivers will likely follow.
I recently switched my daily driver to Linux Mint. I have used many other distros but i do just love how it looks and works.
Don't miss Windows at all.
Use Arch or get punished
@@arkvsi8142 Agreed 💪
I honestly think the only way that massive amounts of people would ever adopt Linux, is if vendors sold prebuilts with Linux pre-installed for a cheaper price (as not paying for windows licenses).
Most people simply aren't interested in installing something else, just look at the amount of people using default browsers or search engines on all devices.
Most of the Linux pre-installed laptops are expensive Ultrabook or business notebook. It is also mostly US-centric. You may not see a single laptop with Linux pre-installed in indian subcontinent.
I'd entirely agree, but I think something also quite important to add is that, while Linux users make fun of Windows' miles and miles of connected legacy settings windows, windows users can configure just about everything through the GUI, if you want to understand your system better, you can just scroll through and explore it. By contrast, config files, launch parameters, etc. are all far more normalized on linux. These do have advantages, but they also mean new users have a much harder time learning their system fully.
(not to mention most linux GUIs simply are less refined. They may look nicer at a glance, but they aren't as well structured and laid out as on windows. MS has entire teams of people dedicated to UX, people with degrees in interface design, everything. Meanwhile the vast majority of people who contribute to linux distros are techies.)
Yes that's true. It is hard to compete with a company that has billions of dollars
Yes, this. Microsoft's efforts are organized and concerted towards well-thought goals. The effort of people in Linux are diffused and unorganized.
@@albussd Debian getting more user friendly and also stable lately which makes them easy to recommend for Windows users who want to try Linux.
@@aoitsukishiro9926 Well, Debian is certainly much better than before. However, I wouldn't yet put it in the category of "recommend to Window users". There are other well-known distros for that (Ubuntu, Mint mainly). But yea, if and when Debian gets to that point, I'd gladly switch to it.
Unfortunately I deal with a lot of Windows programs that explicitly require administrator rights just to launch. It's really bothersome to make it even worse than force you to fully disable UAC.
Causes nothing but headaches and problems
I just switched to Nobara as a life-long Windows user and I am loving it. I'm able to play games just fine with my sons and learning the terminal makes make me feel more comfortable with the system. I also like that Nobara is a Fedora fork so I'm able to implement parental controls for my sons' user login.
I 100% agree. I would love to switch fully to Linux but because my peripherals don't have drivers or software on Linux, I cant use it to its full potential. My Elgato Wave XLR is one of the cases where using it in Linux is just not as great. Its a hard cycle. Some companies don't support Linux because the userbase is small and some people don't use Linux because companies don't support it with drivers and software.
Chicken and the egg problem to be precise
I didn't know about solaar until I saw you mention it in this video. Solved a problem I had with my logitech M270 triathlon mouse!
People should use Time Shift, just in case a mistake is made. Works similar to Restore Points in Windows.
I think most major issues can be fixed by simply choosing an older Kernel in Grub. This is not that hard luckily, and some are even marked as "Recovery".
Often, it's just a Kernel thing that breaks due to some broken dependency in a driver
This is probably the main reason why I use Linux. I can tell the system "I know what I'm doing, don't bother me!"
I prefer debian text (pseudographic) installer. The only negative is that it asks too many questions at the beginning, before the disk is partitioned. It may turn out that all the information entered will be useless if something goes wrong during partitioning. I also like the installer in ubuntu-based distributions. I don't like anaconda, mainly because it becomes unusable with low screen resolutions (on older systems sometimes you have to use safe graphics low resolution mode).
I would also say that Linux lacks easy to use Recovery tools. If after an update or some mistake stuff a casual user might do, if the system doesn't boot you are thrown into grub recovery and the user is all by itself with ZERO help. If you delete any required system files and break your desktop environment, you are on a login terminal, all by yourself. If you mess up partitions, you are all by yourself. Even if you change something on any DE settings and want to revert to the default settings, most DEs lack a "restore default settings" tool.
Today anyone can easily install Linux. But Linux is still extremely easy to break and blow up. And it's still the same nightmare it was in the 2000's when it comes to recovering your install without losing data.
Windows literally has automatic recovery tools on almost anything. If you GPU driver crashes, windows auto restarts it. If it gets corrupted, it falls back into windows basic gpu driver, whatever you do, you NEVER lose you display image. You NEVER have to go into any terminal. Wifi or sound breaks? Windows tries to fix it in the background, and sooner than later your sound is back and you wont even notice it crashed. Your boot got messed up? Windows auto reinstalls his MBR and you almost wont notice that anything was wrong, it just randomly took extra time to boot but nothing else. An update goes wrong? Windows automatically rolls back the whole update and tries again later. This... this is what we need on Linux.
Nowadays it's not that hard to get users into Linux, but it's almost impossible to keep them unless they like nerdy terminal problem solutions...
Some distros like Deepin or PopOS have some recovery tools which is an awesome start, but still something almost no linux/distro dev gives importance yet...
I recently broke Linux and since then, I installed Timeshift. I didn't have to use a backup yet, but it maybe it could be helpful.
That's why some of the distro are looking into immutable distro. Steam OS, Fedoa Silverblue, Opensuse micrOS, Endless OS etc.
@@manolol1119 Look up Fedora Silverblue, Clear Linux from Intel, Opensuse micrOS, Endless OS. It is easier rollback to previous working image in these distros.
Modern UEFI systems you don’t even need to change the boot order. At least on my particular system, in the save and exit tab, you can just click on whichever device to boot from it.
In the future we’ll need to disable pluton from the UEFI interface as well though. Another hurdle MicroShlong will soon be enforcing.
I think the easiest way to tackle this problem is, to encourage secure boot on Linux and prove, that Microsoft has no security advantage with their solution.
Secure boot is already doing what it's designed for
At 4:50 you're right. Only linux distros that are major and have a large userbase are Ubuntu and Fedora. The rest expects you to look at their own documentation.
Well there are many Distros that tailor to new to linux user's that either have a discord, subreddit oder Forum.
I use Pop!_OS now and I was able to resolve an issue using documentation from the Ask Ubuntu forum. It's like a less shitty version of Ubuntu. Linux Mint and Pop!_OS are my two recommendations for new Linux users.
Steam says Arch is higher than Fedora
Yes. A majority of that certainly comes from the fact that SteamOS is now based on Arch and a lot of people switched.
But since Steam does not collect data themselves but rely on feedback (or at least they say so), it depends
@@MichaelNROH When Ubuntu introduced feedback collection in 18.04 a lot of people hated it.
My opinion is that the best way to get new Linux users is to convince people to use FOSS apps. Once they are familiar with that set of software, switching to Linux will be much easier because they will already be comfortable with the apps that are available.
Some people just don't want to use other programs
And some people HAVE to use some programs.
Let's say that you work on a design company. They WILL require you to use the same software as other people.
Companies have a different problem.
A lot of them could switch, but a lot of open source companies or programs lack professional support (commercial), which can bring problems, because there cannot be any downtime.
There are more sides to this, then just being "generic"
If MS office and Adobe suite were available for Linux, we would see more users. A decent number of professionals would have used Linux for their professional work.
The performance aspect is a huge plus for me as well! I have some issues with Linux, specifically on the recording or game modding aspect, but it has been a godsend for getting games I love to run perfectly. I avidly play apex legends and struggle to get the game to run at my refresh rate smoothly on maps like Storm Point. FSR, however, has let me run at a lower resolution while keeping the game looking great on my 1440p monitor. The way that Proton-GE implemted FSR also makes it completely seamless and I have no noticeable input lag. It's honestly quite amazing- the only use I have for windows anymore is recording gameplay or screensharing games through discord.
I wish I could get rid of my dual boot but unfortunately I play some games where EAC isn't working in Linux. I daily drive Nobara and only go to windows for certain games.
Definitely needs more users that's for sure, at the same time though it really needs people to stop getting so hung up on using the official software that may or may not come over. Heck it'd be great if we could get more businesses and schools to switch over and report all the issues they have. I'm just glad now with fedora/nobara for me and the deck things just work. Eventually I'm going to get a deck or one of the clones that's basically the same thing. But probably use nobara on it instead along with some hacks to function like the deck. Linux definitely still has a long way to go but nowhere near as obtuse when I originally started using it back in 2009-2010 before fully diving into it a few years back...
Heck I want to make a universal post install script with ansible that makes things easier for people. I just gotta replace my motherboard since it got busted somehow with the ram clips and not sure what else....
Linux is great, ms has made some really REALLY bad decisions lately, so I'm never using Ms products again
I like Linux because I'm a computer science student and my classmates think I'm smart and know what I'm doing if I use Linux.
(the caveat is that I have no idea what I am doing whatsoever)
rm -rf / --no-preserve-root is a fun command (in a VM, of course) but is also dangerous.
YOU, SPIT, FACTS
Nice video! Your videos are quickly becoming a much watch for me.
Always awesome to have more people covering Linux related stuff on UA-cam.
Yes, love how you are covering Linux. I've not taken the jump yet, but I'm planning on moving from Windows to Linux -- in a more serious fashion. But, I do agree with so many of your points. It's very helpful to have a channel like yours that covers these topics and helps us see that Linux can be a path-forward for us. For me, now, the intimation factor has lessened more-so, and I feel that I can step out of Windows and come over to the Dark Side. And, Chris Titus really helped me with that -- a few years back.
. You said developers need feedback from users, and I agree. Although Linux users are a small proportion of the total of PC users, I think there is a lot more engagement with developers from those users, and developers are more interested in what they have to say. Windows clearly don't seem to care what users want. I came to Linux over two years ago because I detested Windows10, and Windows7 was becoming obsolete. (My new motherboard can't even run Windows7).
They say: "the squeaky wheel gets the oil", and so I think we should be more vocal in complaining to AMD, Nvidia, Huion, Logitec, etc, and they will become more Linux-friendly, if only to shut us up. My message to manufacturers is: "if it doesn't work on Linux, I'm not buying your product". Sure, we're only 2% of the market, but in some cases, that's millions of dollars in potential lost sales.
Keep up the good work, Michael.
That indeed would be an interesting new way to "sell" linux to a broad range of users. Feren OS is my daily driver for almost 2 years now, awesome!
Hello:
Interesting your video.
It seems to me that nowadays Gnu Linux has made great advances to make it easier to use, especially for newcomers.
I disagree about Fedora, I would not recommend it for newcomers. I find Zorin Os (which is the one I use), Linux Mint and Ubuntu to be better options.
Greetings and success.
Recently it's been suggested to me that Fedora would be better than Mint, which is what I usually suggest to newbies. So it's interesting to hear disagreements with that as I don't use either. Although I would like to suggest what I use to people who convert, I realize that that wouldn't be feasible since it's too much for a newbie. If only I could set it up for them they could just use it and forget. As long as you don't install a bunch of software, not updating is often perfectly fine and can yield more than adequate functionality.
The question is, what does better mean?
All of them are quite usable out of the box.
Is a native or custom DE better?
Is better a wide selection of apps better?
The truth is, they are all equally usable, just different. Like MacOS and Windows when not considering compatibility but the overall feel.
@@MichaelNROH For a newbie, I would say that better is works out of the box with good defaults. The less you have to adjust from the start, the better. Especially for finicky people who are determined to hate it because "Windows just works" even while they're coping with every little problem that Windows has. I've heard good feedback on Mint and Fedora. Not so much for Ubuntu these days.
@@MichaelNROH Fedora promotes new things like pipewire, wayland, etc. So newbies can get really confused after upgrading to a new fedora release - why doesn't my nvidia card perform better or why doesn't my sound work after upgrading? Whereas mint keeps using same things like pulseaudio and xorg. Windows also hasn't changed things - ntfs, control panel, file manager, etc is similar to it's old versions.
Yes! We are living in an age when ads and building hype matter more than the actual product. Linux has taken a right step on adopting gaming, now it is time for more reasons to appeal to more people.
Uhm, I doubt the reverse was ever the case. At least not at a whole-society level.
There's just to much different areas for everyone to be familiar with each niche topic, so people naturally fall in either the 'don't care' or the 'hype' category.
Though yes, it's quite possible that social media has turned a 'let's ask someone knowledgeable' into a 'let's check out what _$platform_ thinks' for all the people that don't care that much
you right man, but i don't think 9000 IQ elite Linux users will agree with that
Yep, especially arch btw users.
you are absolutely right.. linux needs advertisement.. for example don't interrupt your work when updating your whole system.. this could be the biggest selling point for me..
It would be nice if it would work outside the terminal tough.
Many GUI solutions want a reboot for updating since it tends to work better for some dependencies.
Cannot recommend it for newcomers yet
@@MichaelNROH it is a gnome software thing actually as far as i know. kde plasma allows you to update without restarting.
also it only exists on fedora.. ubuntu can update itself without reboot
@@ahmet05ac Debian did the same on Gnome. Can't remember KDE, but Pop!_OS did it as well the last time I installed it.
Maybe it changed a bit
@@MichaelNROH i dont quite remember but i didnt see the offline update future anywhere else but fedora and kde neon.. and kde neon's can be disabled. maybe it is a new trend i dont know
U didn't mention appimages?
The first time I Instantly switched from the inside of a game to a different workspace with i3 window manager made my jaw drop on the floor for like an hour. then I was able to make my note and return to the game with NO milisecond hiccup.
I will never return to windows.
When i researched stuff about linux before i switched like a year ago, I didn't care really about the privacy stuff, and i still don't really, i was just interested in finding out if i can play all the games i like on it. So I 100% agree with your point.
I've been spreading linux amongst my friends for over a decade and all of them are now happy linux users
I think and hope the steam deck will push it too, I have one and I love it, it's my desktop replacement right now. Great video!
The biggest problem of linux is people who proactively refuse to learn anything then whining that linux is to hard but they try it anyways because they break their windows installs by install garbage / scam software or not doing any maintenance at all. I'have seen crazy things on people pc's and laptops.
True, but it shouldn't stop usability improvements. People who refuse to learn, will sooner or later as long as it is not too hard (e.g. complaining about Win10 and only temporarily staying on Win7).
Learning a GUI can be done by exploring. Learning the terminal basically googling, since not everything is always clear from help commands.
Ubuntu 22.04 with some gnome extensions looks like something from the future.
I just started using Fedora 36 KDE Spin and thoroughly enjoy it. BUT I have tried a couple games with wine and lutris. The issue I have is AMD 4k hardware with 27" monitor is very difficult as the screen resolution 3840 x 2160 is not supported on a lot of older and Indy games. They were all completely playable on Win10. I have to use Windows for gaming and Fedora for everything else. I hope this gets better as I want to ditch Micky$oft.
What exactly does not work?
The resolutions are not available, or the upscaling does not work?
If it's the second one, then you should check your monitor settings. Scaling is usually done by the display and not the gpu
Distributions do their own packaging for very good reasons imo.
Yes, it would be great if more of that work was shared between them, but switching absolutely everything to Flatpak or something, is not the way. It would just break the everything because a lot of system-level software needs to interoperate and just be configured uniformly.
Flatpak is just A solution, not the perfect one by any means.
I prefer "native" package formats like rpm, deb, etc. myself and look into mainly using them, unless it is not maintained by actual developer (OBS for example).
But that being said, most user-space applications don't need system-level access. Dependencies and all that are more of a problem, but I think that we are going to find a solution for that as well at some point.
The most ideal way would be for a developer to publish their application once, and the dependencies get pulled from local repos, even tough, from a technical perspective, that would be hard to do. Versioning and all that
Is hating all kinds of installers also an option? I think that the Arch installation process really hits the sweetspot where you can basically do everything yourself but without being unnecessarily complicated. This of course doesn't mean that everyone has to prefer manual installation, I've just come to view installers as unreliable and inflexible.
I also like more detailed installers personally. Even though I would only recommend distros with cut-down ones for beginners, advanced users should really use the more advanced ones.
I've installed Debian countless times already and it's basically muscle memory now, even with manual partioning.
Still waiting for Linux drivers for universal audio interfaces, currently seems like an unreasonable dream for now cus the lack of users. The only thing still keeping me on windows as the main driver.
There are some who can do this by providing more in- and outputs instead of using driver-routing.
That's a good approach, but has downsides like cost and the amount of cables used
The biggest benefit i see to linux is stability. Lets be honest, the desktop environment in Windows sucks, and sometimes it simply crashes, which can take a significant length of time to fix. I never have that problem with GNOME. The other stability benefit is Linux requires your password to do anything which could harm your computer, which prevents most malware, and thats a big advantage to Windows of chrome OS.
So does it on Windows.
The difference now is, that Windows chooses the Administrator based on the first account created. Others are being asked for the administrator password.
Not sure if it was done for convinience or if Microsoft assumed that the first user is more responsible and never changed it.
@@MichaelNROH I think Microsoft is actually doing it to benefit the antivirus business, and it makes sense, the problem with the default admin account is that most software is meant to only be installed and run with admin rights, because of this if you are under a standard user account you can face several incompatibilities with some applications, e,g Android "emulators", which is pretty bad.
@@MichaelNROH which means that if a nefarious script runs on an administrator account, you are screwed.
Mice are still unfortunately an issue but on the keyboard side QMK + VIA shows how it's done: full open source firmware which can be graphically configured using a browser without installing a single local piece of software. And almost all medium to highend custom keyboards support it.
I believe that Browser apps might become a standard in the future anyway. Local PWA apps can be done quite easily
The biggest problem with Linux is incompatibility. There are so many projects doing their own thing that nothing works well together. Look at how different base distros are, the different distros themselves even if they are based upon the samd base distro, the different desktop environments, the different desktop environment versions, and so on. As one project that gets updated, it breaks compatibilty with others. A great example is just trying to basic theme change. Things that work with Gnome 41 does not work with Gnome 42. But you say the issue is no users to give feedback, this is very difficult when new people do ask for help after they give up trying old, outdated guides, they tend to get a smart a$$ reaponse of something like rtfm or use Google.
This happens because there is no a proper theming API in virtually any operating system, themes that breaks the look and feel of applications happens even with Android customization layers, modularity like everything has its advantages and disadvantages, just remember that the only alternative to this issuue is the dictatorship that is iOS, which is no better.
Even if the entire Linux ecosystem wanted to, it would be impossible for there to be just a single DE, WM, and widget toolkit, because the existence of more UNIX-like operating systems like those of the BSD family, Illumos, and proprietary UNIX themselves won't allow it, as soon as that is achieved, someone in BSD land will think of creating their own DE with differentiated technologies, and there will be those who port it to Linux, just like what happened with Lumina Desktop.
Furthermore, this will not guarantee the triumph of Linux on the desktop, on the contrary, the free software community will abandon it in favor of the second most used open source OS, which is FreeBSD, apart from the fact that if being successful on the desktop was that easy, not only would Windows be dead a long time ago, but we would also be facing that same compatibility problem much more generally, at the level of what is happening now with streaming services. We would be in a compatibility and exclusivity nightmare where you will be forced to have several computers just to run x apps that is essential in your work.
Nothing is wrong with Debian as a Desktop honestly. For some cases and especially slightly old hardware I definitely would prefer Debian + XFCE rather than Fedora or Ubuntu, mostly because Debian is absolutely trouble free and rock stable. Yes, you won't get the latest desktop environments, but you also wouldn't have to deal with stabilisation period after new desktop releases which might take few monthes.
8:26 it looks like you installed extensions. I thought you said that you liked the vanilla GNOME experience
I like it, but I also said I like a blank canvas to build upon.
I've started to build upon it with minor changes.
Besides the Blur and panel extension it's basically default
The main reason I use linux it’s because makes my computer actually mine and not another “microsoft service”
kinda wish i could buy a 1 time licens for a linux based destop os -if it ment it would make a distro maker/devs able to have a clear vision /resources to be awsome . linux devs deserve to be paid
Completely agree. Linux is an awesome system, there's no motive to focus on niche things when talking about it. Just say how awesome Linux is.
Great video! I've been using Linux for over 5 years, but held onto Windows for a while, purely for gaming. I didn't take me long to realise that Linux was actually better - my personal benchmark, Minecraft, runs about 40-50% better! Steams's support of Linux has also allowed me to play most of my favourite games... and you guessed it - faster and smoother than on Windows!
Wow, one of the most sold games of all time runs and now works better on Linux? Ok, now try play some more niche games the normies aren't playing. Ah, game crashes, multiplayer refuses to work because of DRM anti cheat, and so on. It is NOT a replacement for Windows.
@@portman8909 Give it time. I only use Minecraft as an example because it is a reliable benchmark. I never implied that Linux is better for everyone - just my own experience. I'm not a multiplayer, so I can't respond to that, but other games like Stranded Deep, Subnautica - both very heavy on resources, seem to run better in a Linux environment for me.
Honestly great video, no need for a disclaimer. People are going to find something to get mad about when the topic makes the uncomfortable.
Everything you said was pretty spot on. A lot of Linux user have a snobbish way of looking down on other OS. This isolates new users, but new user keeps development and innovation moving. I love Linux but I’ve had so many random issues that if I wasn’t as patient as I am I would have switched back to windows weeks ago lol. And our community can be a bit toxic. We shouldn’t berate people for asking simple questions. Anywho keep up the good work.
I want to love Linux, but display scaling and performance is holding me back.
I love fedora and it's so nice to use, but I feel like I have to fight with it if I want to get certain things done.
since I've always been an advanced windows hacker, I've gotten my way with windows and gotten it to a performance level I'm happy with.
I really like the way Linux is heading. I'd love to be able to switch to it fulltime at some point in the future, I just don't think I'm ready for it at it's current state.
also I want a better day/night theme changer than yin&yang.
I like the Pop!_OS installer. They're doing good work at System 76. Funny enough I run Pop on a Tuxedo Amd laptop.
i was a windows user for a very long time and i faced issues with windows its slow and its always crashing and recovering data on windows is a nightmare and windows has idiotic updates and with windows 11 out its even more worse most people cant afford hardware compatibility computers for windows 11 it costs around 15 thousand dollars in my local currency so i switched to linux i started with zorin os and it was very easy to use and get used to after some time i went and sticked with KDE Plasma even kubuntu is easy to use i had zero idea how to use the terminal so i watched a few videos about it and today i know exactly what to do and how to do it and all it toke was a month. windows is just the worse thing im glad its out of my life no more lagging no more slowness and definitely no more idiotic updates
a lot of linux users and developers assume people know what they are doing and ignore concepts like: learning curve.
for example, if you open gimp, you may not know what this program is capable of doing, but at least you have a lot of menus that you can click to see what they do, if you let an kid who never used an computer before , using it, the kid will figure out and start learning how to use by trial and error.
now try to do the same with an terminal (any):
open it, without knowing any command, how far can you get?
at mininum an terminal should say something like:
type help for a list of commands, and man for an tutorial on how to use then.
example: man ls
Love your videos, greetings from Upper Austria🤗
Recently I've installed Fedora based distro (Nobara) for the first time and no, it wasn't a good experience. Installer is kind of bad, I decided not to create a root user since I haven't had one for ages. You need explanation for a new user - they will probably create just root. It was a Windows machine before, I wanted it installed on the ssd and left the hdd for data. Partitioning tool is a piece of trash. It wanted bigger swap than I've created (which it completely ignored). Million issues arose before I've decided to simply wipe the ssd and start over.
Then it wanted to install to the hdd automatically.
After I've forced it to the ssd, finally, it installed. That hdd though was the sole ownership of the root user I haven't created. Let's say an ah barrage user migrating to Linux wouldn't have a chance setting the secondary hard drive to automount as write and execute, at least without a root account.
So yeah, the installer is a pig, it's ignoring completely normal use cases and it does assume you do understand some things about Linux - which a newcomer won't understand.
Then they will either start distro hopping, or they'll go back to Windows which just works. Probably the second, unless they are very young and don't have many obligations in their lives.
It was a long rant, I know, but I actually enjoy the system and want to see it getting a wider adoption. It needs a way, way better installer.
Mounting drives is kinda stupid on Desktop Linux.
I mean I get it for servers and it makes a ton of sense but why wouldn't I want to mount everything on a Desktop Distro?
Luckily there are several ways to mount them, even with a GUI if preferred.
But like you said, issues can still happen
Why don't you use Ultramarine Linux?
@@martinpankov2736 I'm new to Fedora, not to Linux itself. I was quite interested in experimenting with Linux gaming, so Nobara seemed logical.
Wife wanted Sims 4 as well.
@@youzernejm I did not say that you need a distro for new users. I offered you a distro that works. Not like Nobara.
Ultramarine Linux is the best desktop distro, that is based on Fedora.
As you may know, Wine can be used on Fedora and other distros for gaming. So, you can install it on Ultramarine and play Sims.
@@martinpankov2736 I know, but after numerous issues with wine and lts distros, I wanted to see if Nobara will be substantially better. The base fedora installer was pretty bad though, I've had better experience with Suse and Mandriva installers million years ago. I will check out Ultramarine though, thanks, I am currently on a hunt for something rolling yet stable, thanks.
Calamares is more intuitive and graphical than Anaconda, even more Calamares do for us all volume structure when detects root partition with Btrfs system file, and I could mention more advantages...
tbh i prefer the native installers that some distros provide, I've had very bad experiences with Calamares, and thanks to Calamares my PC got bricked for no reason.
Privacy and security is what brought me to Linux, but perhaps that's not the primary concerns of most people.
It can be a factor, but there's a reason why everyone just blatantly accepts everything.
i have been using linux for at least 10 years, but i don't go near the terminal. i am too old to learn how, as i never learned about windows. i just install and use.
that part is easy. just click on stuff and it works. and it's free! what's not to like? if i could switch to linux, you can too.
What I understand from your video is if I want to switch to Linux I should learn terminal first. And to use Windows or Mac I don't need to know CLI. So if don't know about my computer I should never switch. Happy Windowing 😊
The only feature I miss in Ubuntu is "refresh button" in Ubuntu Store. 🙂
I think we should make a clear line between "support" and "opensource" here, as supporting isn't compulsory going opensource, and while I would love to see more opensource drivers, I don't think we should push the companies to opensource or dictate them how to do business.
One thing I think is a problem with the gaming industry is that games are mostly closed source. If all of the engines and game code were open source, the main assets could be sold the way a book is, and if you had a copy of the game engine on your platform of choice, playing the game would be as simple as buying a book online, downloading it to the correct folder or telling the engine where it was and presto. That would truly break barriers for a LOT of people.
I bevlieve that games need to stay closed source tbh.
I'm not talking about the API's that make it run, but the actual gameplay coding. Reason being is, that people are going to copy it.
Yes there are some regulations in place, but no one can stop big developers ruin indie studios.
As I said, proprietary is not bad as long as it doesn't limit functionality
Similar to id software has done in the past, till ID tech 4. See how BIG the doom community is! Thanks to John Carmack
@@MichaelNROH For game specific coding, yeah, I agree, but it should be treated like an asset and not binary blobbed like closed source drivers. It would possibly affect game performance to do it that way, but if the requirement to not affect performance was to have a C++ compiler on hand and the game code was available as part of an asset pack, then I would say requirement met. And I wouldn't be opposed to them including it in both binary and source form for those that don't want to take the time and effort to compile. As for corporations versus indie developers, I don't think that's going to be stopped by closed source because the corporation can just hire some developers to recreate it and they're done. It'll probably always be that way.
For me the issue with Linux is typing and language. I first got involved in computers with Windows 95, DOS never made much sense to me. Point and click worked. The ways I think are visual and kinesthetic. I have great difficulty connecting a typed out string of characters on a screen with an action or process or even some kind of meaning. Visual representations of file folders/trees and program icons are much easier to understand. Similarly, as a speaker of English (and a bit of Spanish) when I was in Egypt briefly, something as simple as a street sign was completely unintelligible: "WTF is a kernel and why/how do I need to compile it?" Fortunately I guess, I ran Win98 for years, and became near expert at reloading and trouble shooting due to having to reload the crappy OS every couple months.That experience allowed me to follow directions fairly well and taught me to use the command line for brief instructions. I tried Redhat, Mandrake, and Mint. All had hardware compatibility issues, which remained mysterious as to how to deal with them. Then I found BeOS, and loved it...then it was murdered.Back to Linux...I guess I am saying it is like learning a foreign language AND an OS simultaneously. Some sort of Rosetta Stone is needed. If everyone that drove a car had to know how to tear it apart and repair every assembly, almost nobody would be driving a car.
The problem I had when using popOS for a couple months was very simple, I didn’t have the software I needed, I was fine with everything else.
What kind of software are we talking about? For your Job or private use?
@@MichaelNROH both
I'm using Nobara 36 (Fedora 36) and it is more awesome. :) lol.
I'm also a newbie (3-4 months without winderz).
You don't get it. Why do we want Linux and not Windows? We want a free and private Operating system. Why even switch from Windows if not for that. It's important for the people to understand and incorperate these values. It's important for humanity, society and our future.
People in general don't care about that. They care about plug n play, fancy icons, and the programs they already use
@@talkysassis Yeah but they should care about that. Shit user's will attract shit companys to linux.
I disagree on this.
Sure, it will attract companies that have proprietary stuff. But on Windows or Mac, they don't really care about how they release code as long as it is easy.
Linux is already known for open source but is not used as common.
They need to adapt to this new form of distributing packages more openly once the user numbers are here, since otherwise, other solutions might be better.
It's all about reaching an end user, a customer which is willing to pay for support or a piece of hardware
I see myself as a technical user and even to me, the legal freedom of FLOSS is a bonus, not a selling point. What initially attracted me to and kept me on Linux were:
- Smooth performance on underpowered/outdated hardware. It let me revive an old Windows machine for a few years and it ended up being more useful than Windows.
- Efficient, simple and automatable utility through UNIX standard facilities like pipes, data operations and cronjobs (thanks to Luke Smith for successfully advertising it)
- Strict standardization/Interoperability. When something breaks, I don't need to rely on the vendor for documentation, the standard spec usually suffices to fix the problem. Similarly, when there's a better solutuon I can easily swap it.
- Reliability in troubleshooting. People in this very comment section moan that Windows has all these automatic recovery tools but when Linux breaks, you can just use Linux itself to fix it. Your desktop freezes on Windows? Better hit that cold reset. On Linux? Ctrl+Alt+F2 and you have a terminal, not to mention the magic SysRqs. It's like driving on manual transmission: It's not as easy or comfortable but it's reliable and controlled.
There seems to also be a problem in the business world that being free of charge (and let's admit it, that's the definition of free peiple will care most for) somehow implies lack of quality to a lit of people, such that companies will throw money at a proprietary solution that is far inferior in everything except maybe a polished UI. It's an old stereotype but it still lingers.
@@MichaelNROH I worry that Linux will live to become the villian itself. Which it already kind of does. I hope for a future where you can freely switch between operating system according to your needs without having to worry about software compatibility. Linux won't be our final destition. I want a future where you can run your software on linux, bsd, hurd or other unix like operating systems. Or maybe something completly new. There should not be 1 operating system to rule them all. It should be a diverse market. Software should be free from companies. It's development should be lead indipendantly and maybe finatially supported by companies ie. paying indipendant developers to contribute to opensource projects. Software licences should be a thing of the past. Everyone and i mean everyone should be able to use any software anywhere. And you should only pay for a service. If someone produce something you pay for that produce. For example you pay for a service that hosts a password manager. They host and maintain the infrastructure and you can use it. Like Bitwarden for example. But the service should not own the code.
OMG Yes, love Fedora, but that Anaconda partitioning can use some work. Installers like Calamares and whatever Pop!_OS is using are probably the best from my experience.
Fedora is the best. I daily drive it on my laptop for the past 1 year
I moved my office machines over to linux a couple years ago when Win7 ceased support. Was pleasantly surprised how well it worked as a gaming machine for old Windows games as well. Learned about proton, etc, and was sold on using Linux for the future, but keeping my Win7 machine around for some compatibility issues.
Then Win11 came out and the OS as a service was revealed. After that, yeah, no, my next machine, gaming or otherwise, WILL be Linux, even if it means I can't play certain things I wanted to play.
What surprised me is when I pointed this out to others and tried to sell them on trying linux because they'll have to learn it down the road anyways, they agreed and then didn't do anything. People will blindly follow the path before them until it dead-ends it seems.
Linux distros have a huge problem on providing a way for the developers release proprietary apps (that are 90% of them) We need something like Android Studio for flatpaks, and a store that don't require the project source to build it inside their servers.
Deploying a program for linux should be like this -> Make the app on the IDE -> The IDE exports the Flatpak bundle -> You upload that to the store -> Put your price -> Done
Flathub is working on vendor varification, payment/donation support etc. You can use your own build system, CI etc. There might be different repo for Foss and proprietary softwares.
@@JahidulIslam The problem is the build system. There souldn't be any build system. You should be able to upload an already compiled package.
You know, about users being able to break something and need in trusted packages, we've got it solved right now and it's actually a future of Linux distributions - Immutable Distros, like Fedora Silverblue, where all the software is distributed through flatpak and super user's rights are taken away. Redhat is testing this model on fedora Silverblue, Ubuntu is going there with their snaps and everybody understands that one day all Linux distributions except for old school Mint or Arch are going to be like this.
Steam Deck is also an example of such devices - all the software is installed through the Steam and users don't need to get out of Steam.
I love the Stockholm syndrome intro you made, because you *know* that the Linux community will tear you apart as soon as you even imply Linux isn't perfect 🤣
But yeah jokes aside, I hope Linux takes over soon because I'm super sick of W10 and W11.
Ubuntu, right or wrong, my distro!
I use linux because it's lighter faster and more customizable and the things i do works especially emulation. :)
I think anaconda has the best partition manager for it's btrfs subvolume support
Im Astonished with Open Source Apps Too....i used to test Windows files by Wine, BUT Linux Apps are Modern ...Windows ones looks like on Stone Age ..we can Feel Self Asure about use Linux Only now...including tbe Office Suites...Graphical Design...Multimedia Apps....
Linux mint is not for me I found out.
A simple program on Widows10 takes a lot of searching and still not find out how to do let it start.
I like the artixiso terminal installer
Agreed with every cell of my body king 👑
User adoption is a massive issue which I can no longer blame the lack of software support for.
On top of what you have pointed out, at the end of the day most people want a machine that works and gets their job done.
This in my opinion is a point where Linux can really shine, especially to those with a low income or perfectly fine machine which for really weird reasons no longer works with current Windows versions unless you modify it. Like really? Skylake and Zen 1 do no longer work without workarounds unless you get hands on a TPM module? Are you kidding me?
At work we discuss whether I should give an introduction course to computers for colleagues who are interested.
I'd be interested in going beyond the typical turn on the machine, this is the desktop and click here for Office and there for Internet stuff.
Linux too could be a consideration since I know for certain that I have many colleagues in the company I work for that fear or have no idea of what computers really are nor how they properly use these.
Taking away the fear by telling them not to listen to marketing BS and saving some money by using FOSS software could really help.
But of course I too want to talk about Windows 10, 11 and Android as this is what the majority uses and how to get used to these systems.
Right now I fear Android is even worse than Linux though because of all the various vendors, versions and launchers :,D
I wouldn't say Nvidia drivers on Linux are bad, quite the opposite actually.
Nvidia has quite a bit of Linux exclusive software, mostly AI research related stuff, which is not what you would typically even bother to know as a basic desktop user. Nvidia has no reason to make really bad drivers for Linux.
What's terrible is how you interact with the drivers and how they work with both X11 (screen tearing oof) and Wayland (still not fully supported yet, although there have been massive improvements lately).
What's gonna be essential for the desktop user in the next couple of years is full Wayland and Pipewire support and function parity, whether you use Nvidia or AMD cards.
Then everything else should follow
Linux definitely needs more software support - and I definitely appreciate Factorio. Otherwise I'm really liking Mint as our daily driver.
You have fresh new vibe for a Linux YTer. I will watch your career with great interest.
I keep reading that some developer get too much feed back from Linux user but they won't do anything as user share to small for them to put time and money in. Over all it's no one going to like it, but I think Linux user will explore ones Steam deck hits in china and some gorvement reason on banned windows software.
Well much feedback does not mean a voice.
I like to differ between individuals and groups who give feedback directly to the developer and the "average" user who likes to complain on social media as well as contact support
It is not bye bye, there's timeshift, if you have ext4, if you have btrfs there's snapshot on timeshift or other snapshot app which is the god of restoration
Depends on what you do. My showcase is not necessarily the thing that destroys everything. If a new user blatantly uses root it can lead to permanent data loss.
@@MichaelNROH There are distros like garuda, or spiral linux which use automatic snapshots ootb, whenever you update the system or maybe even when you change lot of data at the same time a new snapshot is created, so if you do some stupid things like deleting all root files or other important stuff, you can just reboot and boot the previous system state from the old snapshots.
How to say "i've just used Windows my entire life" without saying it:
The only problem i have with Linux is kernel level anticheat in games witch has been a pain in the ass for pretty much every linux user making us the complicated things like a vm with gpu passthrough and use macos in a vm for anticheats that detect it and if a game detcts A vm after you spoofed it and isnt avalible on macos your out of luck
Three major probs with Linux hampering popularity: #1 Stupid names. Gimp? Gnome? #2 Ugly distros. Zorin is the only one that looks like a commercial OS. #3 Chrome-phobia. 80% of Windows users spend 90% of their time on Chrome. It should be the standard browser but it takes some tweaks to get it working properly. Me? I use Zorin + Chrome. Cool name, beautiful looking, world standard browser.
If you want a """"standard""" web browser, go back to the 2000s where you had Internet Explorer with 95% of the market share, where almost 100% of web sites only worked fine in IE.
My biggest and only problem so far with Linux is Teams, Microsoft Teams.
Yeah, I know it's not linux fault or anything and I know Microsoft will always want the people to use Windows, but seriously, this is the only thing that keeps me stuck in Windows.
I know there's a PWA version of Teams, but I have meetings where I must share my screen and this won't always work on Linux despite using Xorg, it is just not reliable and I can't just not share my screen correctly in my daily work.
Gaming seems fine, I love how Linux looks and feels, but I can't trust the penguin or Microsoft to work on it :/
vanilla OS installer is by far the best installer
One of the easiest to understand for sure
Or maybe don't, use Linux if it works for you, no need to be evangelizing anyone. they will figure it out. I been using Linux 95% of the time for the last 20? years and we used to be 0.1% of the market and everyone ignored us.. now a days it not that bad, and i suspect the trend will keep on going up. Developers used to be able to complete ignore Linux, now a days its completely impossible to do so, even if some specific software continues to do so, but even mac/windows have software only for one platform.
with great userbase comes great resposibility -uncle Jon
4:40 ah DONT take the word of that site and many others.. for multiple reasons.
1. Ah android os is built using the linux kernel... period.
What's the majority of the smartphone market ...PLANET..wide? Android.
2. This isn't 2015 or 2016 let alone 2010 anymore
Things have changed.
Dxvk
Vulkan
Proton
Wine improvements
Steam
Lutris
Heroic Launcher
The list goes on involving why gaming on Linux has now been a reality for many years now.
Contrary to what many may think...the number of Linux users is really more like 9 to 10 percent
Android is not considered being Linux as in an operating system.
Yes Linux is technically a Kernel but can also be referred to when talking about Open Source Operating Systems based on it.
And that's it. Android has a lot of proprietary things and is not really that open source besides the Kernel.
If you switch the Windows Kernel to Linux, it would still be Windows, and not considered Linux in statistics.
@@MichaelNROH Android has modified linux kernel. Stock linux kernel cannot run apk files
I like how you move your hands 😆😆😆😆
I don't have the gear to stand or walk around, so I need to move something else 😅