I used Linux For One Year ... Was it Worth it?
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Chapters:
00:00 - It has been one year ...
00:49 - My first mistake
03:00 - How to choose a Linux Distribution
05:13 - Stuff that broke
06:56 - Don't overthink it
07:43 - Conclusion
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I'm also a Windows-to-Gnome user. My main reasoning for selecting Gnome is simple: I didn't want to use Windows, I wanted to use something different. I picked the one that wasn't like Windows.
Same. Also Gnome has solid workspace visuals and the touchpad gestures are good. I like not having shortcuts on my desktop since all I do is hit super and type in what I want to open.
@@MaxDad7 oh same, I don't have a single thing on my desktop. Leaves room for my fairly regular wallpaper changes.
@@giddycadet it's the only desktop that actually acts like a work desk lol
Same
Same here, but I started with WMs
It'll be two years for me this summer. I switched to Linux (Cinnamon Mint) after having to reinstall Windows 7--I refused to use 10 on my desktop--and couldn't get the Microsoft OS to recognize the dimensions of my monitor.
Now my laptop is also running LInux, and I can't imagine subjecting myself to Microsoft's products on either computer ever again.
Ironically, I couldn't get Mint (or KDE Neon, or Garuda, or Zorin) to recognize my 7900XTX video card or any of my 1440P monitors. They either couldn't install the OS at all, or was stuck at 1024x768 whereas Windows just worked. After a lot of headache, modifying install scripts, I finally got Mint and Neon working, but I don't wish that on anyone. Same issues with mounting SMB Shares (from my TrueNAS server) on LInux: Any file that I edited would, within seconds, cause the editor to think the file was changed externally and ask me to reload it. So if I edited a text file, I'd save, be forced to re-load, then upon exiting, I'd have to cancel changes (which there were none because it was already saved). To get around this, and after a lot of trial and error, you have to add various overrides to your /etc/fstab cifs mount settings--which frankly should not be something any one has to dig into for days to figure out for something so fundamental as mounting a file share. In Windows, SMB shares just worked, and they are faster too in Windows. I have at least 98 other quirks in Linux and one by one I'm getting through them (e.g., In mint, if you KVM swap or disconnect your keyboard, your repeat rate/delays settings are reset back to defaults but not reflected in the UI as such, I could go on and on and on...). I'm still working out the kinks in Linux but I am now saving a script of "things I have to change to make linux work" which is now like 20 pages long. I don't want to do this all over again next time I install Linux.
Fine and dandy, so long as you aren't doing anything that needs windows. I'll stick with the OS that just works on my main PCs.
I use Linux mint for PCs that are 10+ years old, and don't fair well with debloated Win 10. I only browse the web on them, for the most part, so Linux is fine.
I just switched to LinuxMint Cinnamon yesterday... As a decade old Windows user, it's a little rough so far...
@@juansnyders7323 What issues are you having? I have solved most of mine and it's getting better. There are two actual bugs that are annoying me but so far I'm starting to like this now. I'll see how long this goes...
Igot a laptop with iwndows 11 and immediately i turned it on stuck a usb that had garuda kde on it and nuked windows 11 lmbo my gaming pc has manjaro kde themed for games and such and than i have another manjaro xfce on a old pc themed with chicago95 lmbo
Dude, the "too similar" argument is spot on! This is why I always recommend Gnome to everyone as well. One of my friends who switched relatively recently pointed out the same issue when he first switched - the interface familiarity on the surface level only led to false assumptions and frustrations as he actually tried to use it *like* it was windows. Not to say it's the same for everyone but it's 100% a completely valid argument, in fact Gnome being so different is what made me want to try Linux years ago as well, it made the whole process more fun.
+1 from me too
That was one of the reasons why Ubuntu became so popular in the Unity era, it managed to differentiate itself from other DEs even though it kept the desktop metaphor.
In fact, this is the same issue that other UNIX-like operating systems have, such as the BSDs, if you look at the BSDs, they use and/or can use the exact same desktop environments, the GNOME or KDE Plasma desktops that you can install on FreeBSD are exactly the same as the ones you install on any Linux distro, FreeBSD under GNOME or Plasma looks and behave in exactly the same way as on Linux.
if you were to show a linux user a PC with that FreeBSD installation, they will think and try to use it as if it were any other Linux until shortly after they open the terminal and realize that it is not due to compatibility issues, and there they will be disappointed and they will want to stop using it, the Linux user will believe that they was scammed.
@@xCDF-pt8kj I think Cinnamon is pretty great, for a while I recommended it to everyone but it's a bit too bland for me. Recently Gnome has become usable with little to no customization needed, myself I only install appindicator (for icons in tray) and clipboard indicator (to see my clipboard history) and I'm good to go aside from purely aesthetic customization like selecting my favourite icons (papirus) and installing blur-my-shell. Also in the past you needed to use the extension website or packages from repos to maintain your extensions yourself, now you can simply use the extension manager app which lets you search for, install and automatically update extensions.
I was never able to properly get into KDE because it's just too much, design is too inconsistent, there's task bars full of buttons everywhere cluttering the interface etc. I don't doubt it's great for a power user who takes the time to learn it all, but for me it's just unnecessary clutter, it's just not for me. I love the Gnome approach - less is better, if I want something extra I'd rather add it myself and know it's there rather than have 10 different settings I don't know the location or usecase of.
@@xCDF-pt8kj Yeah if you want the windows like feel then I totally get it, Gnome would take a bit more customization to act more Windows-like and really that's just not what it's designed to do - I simply like having it feel different.
I picked Plasma (and cinnamon) because I got tired of needing extension after extension to change or set various things in gnome. Simple things like the date and time format, theming, where or if a button, icon ore menu appears...at least at the time. it's too late and not much reason now for me to give gnome another try.
It's never too late to change or try again, but the part about not much reason to give another try, THAT is understandable if you're already comfortable with Plasma/Cinnamon, that's what I like about the freedom of choice in Desktop Enviroments, everyone can use the one that they're more happy with.
KDE is fantastic, is it perfect? of course not, but it gives me what i personally like...customization. I dont even change much but i like what i have, and i like KDE apps more than gnome apps, i love KDE connect. The KDE desktop is so powerful, its main problem is getting people to know just how powerful it is!
@@donaldc3884 There was a couple things I did like about gnome. But yeah, KDE does a good job with their software. KDE connect was a god-send during my 2 month trip in Australia-transferring pictures from my phone to the laptop.
I used gnome for years, but I'm loving KDE right now. Cinnamon is pretty great too.
Gnome grows on you the moment you realize you don't need to customize what was not really needed. Is the most I love about Gnome. It's invisible until you ask for it to appear... and even then tries to be as minimal as possible.
Things like ... do you really need a bar with icons all the time on the screen using space? Do you really need menus? So you really need gadgets on the desktop you never see?
It's all a new metaphor...
Every time I build a new computer I install Linux, and even though I've been using Linux since 2003, I would always end up getting tired of bumping into things I can't do and hardware incompatibility. I built my current computer in 2019, installed Pop_os, and honestly have had better experiences than I was having when I still used Windows 10, so it is now four years later, and I'm still using Pop_os.
It's almost two years for me, this month. I don't regret my choice
Ubuntu fan here. Personally, I've tried many RedHat, Debian, and Arch based distributions. I picked up Ubuntu sometime in 2011 or 2012 and have been using it for my home server ever since. It's always my go-to distribution.
Ditto and at the same time for me. Windows went blue screen once too often and I changed to Ubuntu and haven't looked back. About six months later Mrs Martin had enough of Windows, losing all her days work and insisted I put Ubuntu on her pc. She now refuses to use Windows, even though I have always setup dual boot. I have tried many flavours over the years, but I always come back to Ubuntu.
I remember before I got ill, I used to use Ubuntu in 2014. It was far faster and more stable than my windows operating system. I loved using the CLI and I enjoyed all the downloadable community software that was oh so available.
I'm not sure how it is now but Ubuntu is my go to Linux OS
Ubunty is Debian based distributions
I had Ubuntu but I switched. I found the snap packages causing overall slow downs in performance.
I'm about a week into using Linux Mint. The only hiccups I had were getting my rear audio jack selected for speakers (it really wanted to use my front audio jack instead) and some sporadic crashing while running Elden Ring as I learn about Proton settings. Everything else has worked surprisingly well.
I did have to install "wireplumber" to fix some weird bluetooth jank with the audio on my systems, but overall Yes. I've only been gaming on it in the last year or so, largely after I purchased my steam deck did I start trying so much
I also had sporadic crashes with Elden Ring using proton experimental. Switching to Proton-GE solved the issue for me.
I'm using the flatpak versión of steam tho, so it might not work if you are using the deb version.
@@darielvillatoro8365 It might work. I haven't bought Elden Ring yet but its on my list. I've been having issues with GTAV but only on my laptop (dual graphics Intel/NVIDIA) though it runs just fine on my other systems.
Some things also depend on the System configuration. A new GPU driver might also behave wrong on some GPU's while it worked fine on the old one.
Proton-GE is in this case most likely ahead of Proton, but did you try out older versions as well?
@@MichaelNROH I haven't, that's a good point. I just assumed the latest version would be the best. I still suspect that due to this laptop running a M1200 Quadro Mobile GPU (roughly equivalent I've read to a 940 or 960 mobile) some of it is down to hardware.
In 2022, every now and then I would install Linux just to see how far gaming on it has improved, and every time I did it got better and better, but I always thought "it's not there yet, but it's very close" so I would go back to Windows but felling I was missing something, nearing the end of December of 2022 I was just fed up with Windows, it just wasn't working for me anymore, yes windows is better for gaming than Linux, but I don't use my pc only for gaming, so I gave Linux another try (I think it was the 3rd try in 4 years?), now I've been using opensuse for the past 3 months and I don't plan on going back to Windows, specially now that windows 10 will only be supported until 2025
Oh and I already used Linux in the past (for about a year or so, opensuse too), so I know my way around some things and I'm not afraid of tinkering the system to get a little bit more performance, usability, or just learn something new about it
@BobDev not anymore, I found my place in opensuse, and I have arch as a "backup", but I prefer opensuse as since the first time I used it years ago I've never had any single problem, and that continues today, since I installed it 3 months ago, I didn't had any single problem, the system is very stable with the latest drivers and software versions (I use tumbleweed with kde plasma btw) and overall the gaming experience has been pretty much the same as it was on windows, even better sometimes (of course with some adaptations here and there since Linux and windows aren't the same thing), if things continues like this, I think I really won't go back anytime soon if ever
Oh and on my laptop in using opensuse too, just don't know if I'll continue with plasma there, since for me gnome works way better for laptops and plasma on desktops, maybe I'll switch to gnome there and use plasma only on my main pc
@@BobDevV I just tried Neon. It has a lot of things I like (very good at trying to remember where you left off) but very tiring in a lot of other ways vs. Mint:
1. Every setting you want to try out in Neon you have to separately "Apply" whereas in Mint, you just toggle it and see/try it immediately.
2. Customizing the task bar in Neon makes me want to slit both wrists.
3. Dolphin looks dated. There is no way to get it to look as clean as Nemo. Try removing the ugly 3D and outlining effects in Dolphin. The color editor is also impossible to work with--possibly even more tedious, glitchy and confusing than the task bar customization.
4. Newer AMD GPUs (like the 7900XTX) are not supported (basically on any distro save maybe PikaOS) and AMD themselves only support Red Hat, Linux Mint, and I think MX Linux. So, with Neon, you have to modify installer scripts and re-point package sources to get your video card and monitor past 1024x768. Some distro installers wouldn't even boot with my 7900XTX installed and I'd have to take it out.
Maybe it's because I mostly play single player games (no anti-cheat problems) - but from what I can tell, gaming has gotten exponentially better in the past few years. Valve has been working hard on Proton, and the majority of games I play run well. I don't know if it makes a difference - but I've been using Manjaro, which is a rolling release that stays a bit behind Arch. So it's relatively up to date, but shouldn't break as much as Arch (although that is not to say it never breaks - I've read that it's had some troubles in the past).
@@logicalfundy Is your pc Optimus? Intel-Nvidia?
@@JMRVRGS Intel / AMD, self-built.
I've ditched Windows 20 years ago and used various distributions before sticking to Fedora. Linux is so easy to use now, it has never been a better time to start using Linux.
I went from windows to Fedora, It uses Gnome by default and I absolutely love it. Fedora is an amazing combination between the cutting edge and stability. There’s lots of support for my asus rog laptop. I daily it and have had very little problems with running my applications. I definitely recommend switching
Can't agree more. Fedora is super cool. Nobara is my daily driver for 3 month now and will be until Vanilla 2.0 Orchid releases as stable. Even hopped on my older laptop to fedora workstation. Works like a charm.
It's a little sad Fedora is so niche, but that's probably because some websites list it as distro for advanced users. I honestly don't see why.
Switched to Fedora 2 weeks ago from Linux and it's so easy to use lol
I've switched from windows to arch Linux with KDE plasma since November last year. Love the amount of customisation you can do and all the things you can do with it.
My man, nice to see you like it, i can say the same, most of my problems in linux i was able to fix my self without nuking my old install and starting from scratch again like i did with windows
I'm with you, GNOME is incredible and strangely better for beginners. It's the only big desktop env that understands the importance of eye-candy. It looking good made me want to learn it all the more.
It is, though it is still subjective. It's all personal preference in the end, but trying out something "new" is exciting
@@MichaelNROH fo sho
Gnome 40 was a good update. Nautilus is becoming awesome.
exactly this, definitely not for everyone, but myself i simply love it
@@keilmillerjr9701 that's probably why I like it so much lol I never used a pre-40 GNOME desktop. I've only been around since v40.
From what I've seen, GNOME used to be hot garbage.
I don't know if it's frowned upon (since I don't hear people talking about it much), but I'm really hooked on Lubuntu.
I'm liking how Linux has made a lot of advances in driver compatibility and ease of installation. I remember when I first installed Ubuntu and tried getting my graphics tablet to work... debugging why the three packages wouldn't communicate properly, though there was a feeling of achievement when I finally got it working, I'm much happier now that it's almost plug and play.
We are at the birth of a Linux milestone, as Valve works to make games available for the Steam Deck (which uses Arch, btw). I'm super excited to see what's in store for the future.
@@SonsofReality Arch has bleeding edge software which is exactly opposite of debian. And considering how much valve invested in gaming on linux maybe they wanted necessary changes the make to arrive in a matter of days(it can take a year+ on debian).
Cool welcome to the hatgang.
Went over a lot of change too. Did go Arch and then went Fedora c:
Congrats Michi for this video reaching a huge audience. Greetings from 🇩🇪😁
Objective video with positive vibes! Thank you, Michael!
I've been using Linux since 2019, starting off as both an experiment and cost cutting measure when I built my first PC. I previously having only used prebuilds and laptops with Windows. I started with Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.1, but six months later I switched to Manjaro KDE, and haven't felt the need to switch back to Windows, at least for home use as a dedicated gaming and media server PC.
For me, it's all about stability. I use Linux for most of my work computing. In 2020, when the pandemic started, my work became remote but I still needed to access my office computer via ssh. I had Ubuntu installed on that computer and it was 100% reliable for 17 months despite being completely unattended by any human. I finally shut it down when I switched jobs but I'm sure it could have been running reliably to this day.
Damn, been using it exclusively for 16 years now. Now I feel old
Aaahhh! Finally a lover of Gnome!
I've been using Linux since 1995-ish on my home servers and on my desktop machine in parallel with Windows until XP went EOL in 2014. After that only Linux, currently Solus. I'm quite pleased. I'm a programmer, though, and solving computer problems doesn't scare me. Also I'm not a gamer.
Great video!
I switched from Windows 10 to Manjaro Linux in November of last year. For some reason my CPU died in December. I replaced the CPU and then I discovered the boot partition was corrupted, so I had to fix that. I haven't had any problems with Linux, though. I also installed Linux Mint on an old Apple Mac, but I had to switch from Cinnamon to XFCE desktop environment for performance reasons. I don't miss Windows.
Same, 16 or 18 months gaming on linux, no issues. I miss some games but the stability and control over my computer is priceless
This its the first video i watch from you i just subscribed
Yes! 1:41 right there! I couldn't have put it this way in a million years but that is exactly it! This has been why I always went back to windows. Developers try so hard to make their distro look like Windows that as soon as you go to use it and it doesn't function the way Windows actually does, it just makes it that much more confusing. You need something different enough to remind you that you're actually not using Windows while having an aesthetic not necessarily the same, but just as pleasing as the windows environment. I personally went with Zorin OS, which is an Ubuntu fork using gnome desktop. So far I'm loving it, despite a couple of hickups! ☺
I am using Linux since KDE 2 era. Back then it was complicated to fix anything on your system but that kept me going to learn how the system worked. Nowdays most Linux distros is install and you are good to go. Saves a lot of time and effort for beginners in the Linux community.
When I switched to Linux a few years ago, KDE Plasma just fits me right. I tried Gnome and other DEs but the amount of customization KDE Plasma offers just can't be beat... and I like customizing any OS I use to suit me. I've tried Arch too and luv getting the bleeding edge apps but after I keep breaking stuff after a while ('cuz I like to tinker a lot)... I settled on MX Linux which is Debian-based. I'm enjoying the rock solid stability and the amazing support.
Went with Manjaro (KDE/Plasma) - not a beginner distro for sure, but I like to keep a bit more up to date. Linux has *greatly* improved since I tried it about 20 years ago. Back then - I couldn't make it my daily driver, too many things broke, especially the games I wanted to play. Today it's so much better, *especially* the gaming situation. It's also working well for 3D design for 3D printing, as well as software development.
the DE experience was the same for me. I used some distros that default with some windows alike DE. that kept me switching distros. until I learned I can use different DE. I installed gnome and I like it. makes me use my laptop faster and more efficiently. sometimes I would wish to have more customization but considering how bad I am at it, it's best I have some limitation
The thing I absolutely love about Linux is that no two person's Linux instances look like each other. You can make it look like *however* you want, and make it work however you want it to.
My laptop runs Ubuntu(GNOME) and it will never look like anyone's GNOME desktop with the help of extensions. Or I could even just change desktop environments and setup even more customizations that way.
About apps and workflows themselves, I have zero problems. I am a CLI-kind of person anyways, most of my time is spent in the terminal. Pretty much the only apps I use are the web browser, GIMP, OBS, kdenlive and games. Text editing, coding and markdown styling stuff are done in the terminal.
All my app installations are done in the terminal, too. CLI is damn powerful by itself.
indeed the most powerful and valuable feature of linux is freedom
as a experienced linux user, this is a great video!
I use LMDE, switched from Linux Mint and Windows 10 dual boot. I love it, but I can say that Flatpak and appimage are your friends on stable distros.
one nice thing is you can do in Linux is use both or several desktop environments and switch in the login. I started with gnome but later installed KDE glad I have both because I really like both and can't decide 😂
Linux is life! Thanks Michael! 👍😎☀
I made the switch to Linux on my Desktop back in December after having used Linux on my laptop and server for years. I've tried it twice before but failed because I wasn't commited: In December I forced myself to only use Linux for a month and after not even a week I was so comfortable that I don't deel a need to go back at all. I only use Windows to play Valorant sometimes and the only thing that's worse is the fact that troubleshooting can be a lot more difficult on Linux.
I like the fact you don't go much into detail on which distro to use. Desktop enviroments change the user experience quite a lot more than the Distro does. In the end most usecases can be achieved succesfully on most Distros.
YESSSSSS! Finally, I subscribed to your channel because when you said, "I just felt like it" that's exactly how I felt. I changed my Dell Venue tablet with an atom processor and 4 GB to Antix, which is a learning curve, but a good one. It runs great on there. I use Zorin OS 16.2 on my desktop for my Ph.D. work, and I use Lubuntu with Slimbook Battery options for excellent battery life on my i7 laptop where I get about 8 to 9 hours of run time on it. I like the fact you can modify and have more control over your OS when using Linux. I have yet to see my computer crash or get a blue screen of death like when I'm using Windows, especially before a presentation. Linux is a life saver!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've started in late 1998 with Debian as an absolute Beginner..Screen Resolution at 800x600 px with Windowmaker as a WM, great Times Back then..as for today, i'm using kubuntu and still waiting for the stabil Version of Debian 12.. i've tried the Testing Version which didn't started on my system.. many greetings from Brunswick in Germany and please stay safe.
Not what I was expecting, a good video.
I’ve also been using Linux for a year, after Windows it’s a breath of fresh air, you no longer need to think that your system is outdated, incompatible with the hardware you use, install the necessary software like C ++ libraries or media codecs (which were just discussed in video), bad and very old system API (which is painful to use without wrapper libraries) and many other things that raise questions
I watched the entire video and thought i'm watching a 700k youtuber, the quality of your videos are really awesome!
Thank you 😊
I love gnome! The gestures work the best out-of-the-box and it looks beautiful by default!
I finally switched from Debian/Fluxbox to Debian/labwc (a Wayland Compositor instead of Xorg). Old habits die hard, but it's just so smooooth. Plus I got looking-glass working for those Windows games. Debian Sid has always been stable enough for me. I've been with it over a decade.
2015 I finally got sick of Windows.
I had some important work to do, but woke up to my computer updating itself for the whole G_D morning.
That, and having to constantly turn off telemetry after updates really infuriated me.
Of course their was a learning curve.
But now I'm running an Arch distro, I've mastered GIMP, and have slew of homespun bash scripts to manage my network on the command line.
Ohhh and the KDE desktop environment is FANTASTIC! 5.27 now has native tiling.
Man, this year really unironically does feel like the year of Linux. Been using it for a few years, and had a few issues at first, but I shrugged them off as I prefer fixable or not-so-annoying issues to mysterious ones that often made the system plain unusable, and were not diagnosable like on Windows. Over the years, hardware, game and other Windows software compatibility got improvements, while the experience itself has also been getting more and more stable. And now... we're getting HDR support, games will most often just work...
Heck, recently reinstalled and I'm now running KDE Wayland on Nvidia just for the heck of it. It's the most broken my system has been for a bit, and that 'most broken' basically extends to non-game applications on Xwayland (being worked on... I hope), very specific things not exactly working right (weird qemu mouse behavior and Retroarch being slow and sometimes freezing in some cases), a VRAM leak in kwin_wayland and plasmashell freezing (these two might be gone now, yet to check with Plasma's rendering backend set back to OpenGL though). Most issues caused by Nvidia compatibility, of course.
It's really interesting. Not only are we seeing some massive upgrades regarding Desktop functionality like Wayland, but Valve also pushing the SteamDeck mad af. I mean a 10% discount on a console which already is a loss from the hardware perspective ?
I have a pretty beefy computer and found that it was slow sometimes due to updates, also those updates broke stuff very often. That's why I moved to Linux. I already had my school computer with linux, but not my main gaming rig. I must say, it's much better and easy to use than ever before, of course I had my battles but it's OK I like to tinker with stuff anyways. Fedora 37 is pretty amazing
I started a long term migration to Linux from the moment Win 11 was announced, and I did the main switch here a couple of weeks ago.
Yes, I have had to set fire to a lot of my game library as they will not run, some have surprised me (DCS World) but I knew that would be happening going into it.
I chose KDE as I always loved the Windows experience, and they are like Windows ++ meaning the functions that Microsoft took away from us, and the small "Nice to have" ones are present in KDE.
However, starting to use the free programs like GIMP and LibreOffice before you switch to Linux is key, having knowledge of what you can and can't do is king.
Sitting on Windows and your proprietary software until you are forced to switch will lead to massive headaches and problems, something you do not need when you are in unfamiliar waters.
Positive experiences? My multi monitor setups basically... Just works, and is easy to customize under Linux, it is scary how well it all works compared to Windows.
Funny thing. I actually prefer OnlyOffice over Libreoffice since I didn't want to waste like 10 years of muscle memory.
@@MichaelNROH One thing to be aware of, if you do not like the 20 year old look of LibreOffice, you can change its settings to be more Ribbon like that newer MS Office offers.
I just started with Office in 2000s, so my muscle memory is even older, and is very compatible with LibreOffice :D
I feel exactly what you are saying. I am thinking about moving away from Windows after they announced Win 11. However, I used Linux on an off since 2004 and I know too well what some problems I'll need to overcome. I actually use LibreOffice for my office suit and it's all I need in this department. The gaming aspect got really good after Valve entered the Linux scene. But then... There's Adobe that I have, hate a bit, but can't drop. There is Fusion 360 that I use and don't want to leave for FreeCAD (I used FreeCAD first and then moved to Fusion 360 so this isn't about familiarity, but preference). There is some accounting software that is only for Windows that I need to use. There are some qualified signature things that will not run on Linux (did my research). There is some hardware that I know I will have a hard time in Linux with. And I have so many AHK scripts that I would have to rewrite from scratch in Python, Bash or use some tool in Linux to replace, that I have a headache just thinking about it.
So in the end I would end up using GNOME Boxes or some other virtualiter to run a Windows VM for some very specific use cases and by that time I wonder if I'm not too deep down the Microsoft rabbit hole to ever escape.
Your philosophy of choosing Gnome over plasma/cinnamon, i never thought about it like that. I like it.
Everyone has a preference and I believe that many wouldn't like Gnome at all.
If they had the right mindset of not expecting anything to work like something else, then it would be way simpler to migrate to Linux for most
Nice vid, and good on you to explain that it's NOT like windows.
I started out with linux in the 90s and switched to windows when I wanted to get into gaming but I'm older now and haven't gamed in a long time so I switched back to linux. I'm on a bog standard manjaro/xfce install and am happy with it.
I‘ve now, after over 1.5 years of daily driving linux, switched to hyprland as my gui… and it’s absolutely amazing. I‘ve used i3 before for some time, did like it, but I prefer the way Hyprland works. Also, I‘ve been using archlinux for over 1 year, which I like the most
I really liked using Gnome 2 and while Gnome 3 at first drove me to KDE for a while it was because of display driver issues with early version of Gnome 3 and not so much about the workflow. One of the huge upsides of Gnome for me is that I like the default settings a rather lot and I'll need very little tweaking to get to the point where I feel at home which makes reinstallation and setting up new systems a breeze.
Try MATE.
I've used Linux for more then 6 years or more I've loved every second of it. I went from Ubuntu when I started to switching between nobara project and archcraft with Wayland recently. I love flatpaks! I kept jumping from windows to Linux constantly because windows had a few things Linux didn't. It's soo close to being my daily driver heck I even have a Radeon 67000xt GPU so that I have all the open source drivers. I hope to stay on Linux forever and ditch windows. Linux will keep getting better and someday I want to contribute to open source code because I love it all soo much.
I went from windows 10 to Debian 11 with xfce. Looked back a couple of times while I was learning, but a year or so later, I'm very happy with my choice.
when i used windows 11 for the first time i couldn't believe it. what were they thinking. it literally spooked me so much that i eventually made the switch to using arch full time and i am very pleased (except when the nvidia drivers break my configs)
I happened to switch to Linux just about 2 months ago and ended up using Fedora and KDE through the Nobara project because I was just annoyed about the future of Windows. I honestly had very few issues with Windows 10 specially, it was very stable and ran all the programs, games, and other tools just fine for my needs. But knowing that I would never switch to Windows 11 made me realize that I would probably be switching to Linux soon anyway made me decide to switch everything over and get it over with. In those two months, I've learned a lot. As a programming student, I've done a lot of messing around with the operating system and the internals. I have completely blown up my installation a few times messing around with modifying drivers and boot files although that was definitely my fault for messing with stuff I didn't really understand. I definitely haven't missed Windows at all since I switched though. The only thing that's annoying is that some devs will make their apps "multi-platform" but leave the Linux port barely finished because it's not used as much.
Yeah, I agree that some multi-platform programs can suck on Linux. Some prime examples would be MS Teams and Discord which both have limitations in functionality.
Luckily the browser versions work fine, but it is a bit more of a workaround
@@MichaelNROH discord has limitations? i honestly haven't noticed.
@@Viesta Sharing your whole screen on Wayland for example
@@MichaelNROH oh that might be why... because i use steam deck desktop mode a LOT more than gamemode... and desktop mode uses X11... for now. >:)
very interesting perspective. nice
The main reason that got me to switch from windows to Linux is when I got my Ryzen 7 laptop 3 months ago. Windows 11 per-installed without me installing any applications at idle was using 4.2 GB of RAM.
So I decided that I had enough of windows and installed Arch Linux. And after installing everything I need on Linux, my laptop always stays below 1.2 GB of RAM at idle.
And I believe it will only get better with Linux in the future due to more adoption.
Spontaneous ❤❤
I use gnome at work and have used it for personal computers too and since I don’t care to configure my OS in anyway that it isn’t already configured out of the box, it’s perfect for me.
One thing about stock Gnome is the background is constantly scrolling and zooming. That's why they only supply graphical wallpapers and no scenic ones. Zorin backgrounds never move.
been using GNU/Linux for well over 20 years and I still love it :)
I totally feel the too similar bit. I started with Ubuntu 14.04 with Unity. The different look and feel helped set the tone that I was just going to have to look some things up.
I've been using Manjaro for like 6 years now. I used to jump around between ubuntu and debian and mint and back to windows. Manjaro was the first one I never wanted to switch from. Well TBH proton is a lot of the reason. I think if proton or wine would have been as good as it is now a decade ago, I probably would have been fine in the other distros.
Tried Manjaro 2-3 years and got kernel issues (because ??) with updates like 3 times so i looked over the problem...it's the distribution.
I have Garuda Linux (Arch same base but automatised updates and customised installation) which is more closer to Arch but at the same time heavy in features, the updates are handle by the distribution and they check by hand (so if kernel updates are bad they dont upgrade...to hard to understand i guess). Windows do surely the same thing except last update who forced windows 11 on random peoples🤣. And it has nice performance for gaming too so why not.
It's insane to me that games are coming out with "Steam Deck Verified" as a selling point.
I've only been around for a few years, but I never would have thought that publishers would spend money on advertising their game as being playable on Linux.
Oh my goodness such a good video, if I could get Linux to work with Canon EOS Utility Pro and WarZone I would switch to Linux all the way
I prefer Plasma because it comes with sane defaults, such as a system tray. Gnome has a seemingly useless panel that is just an eyesore imo. I do like Gnomes app UI, however they are nowhere near as functional as KDE apps. Dolphin and Nautilus is a great example. With some effort, Gnome can look very good, and function the way you want it to, Plasma works the way you want it to by default. The only setup I do on Plasma is set a wallpaper, and set the icons in my taskbar. In Gnome, I have to install gnome-tweaks, adw-gtk3 and extension manager. Then I have to install a tray icon extension, just so I can make sure my apps actually close when I am done with them. I also usually install rounded-corners to make all the apps look uniform, and dash to panel to make the useless top bar have more functionality beyond the 3 or 4 buttons it has by default. There is no reason to add another dock or panel to gnome, they already provide one and leave it empty. Plasma also has a far better implementation for workspaces, either by using virtual desktops, or activities. If your reasons for not using Plasma are only because it initially seems similar to Windows, you are missing out! The possibilities are darn near endless with Plasma. Either way, I am happy more and more people are using Linux over Windows. Enjoy what you like.
Everyone has a preference and that's good.
The gnome workflow is super good for me, ive only used windows besides linux, and have tried kde as well, but yea, still on gnome
Everyone has a preference. Some really hate Gnome and that's fine.
I've been using pop os full time since the 21.04 except for gaming (I'm so proud I haven't broken it since 21.10), not because windows is better or anything, but because how broken fractional scaling is when playing games. Now I'm trying to just accept the fact that I need to disable fractional scaling and go 200% scaling with 0.75 font scale. Have been a relatively smooth ride so far(day 1)
I fully agree with your choice of gnome. Using KDE felt like a culture shock while gnome felt like something new to pick up that I can learn very fast.
Using NixOS with a fully custom desktop environment, NixOS offers plenty of fancy things, but I only use the main configuration file which I can just copy and paste on other computers to have the exact same install and files, it's not for everyone but for *me* it's perfect, and I switched from Arch (which I used for 3 years or so) to it as soon as I tried it out on my old laptop, it was *the* distribution I was looking for, and I now have what I think is my final /home.
I'll never even look back on Windows as an option, there is just no need to for me!
@@BobDevV Huh...? Why are you talking about Archcraft? What does it have to do with what I said about building my desktop environment?
A desktop environment is just a compilation of programs and tools that make a usable desktop, like KDE Plasma, GNOME or others, and that is usually customized to whatever the desktop's vision is.
Mine is just a set of programs I use (which are all defined in the config file, so I never have to install any of them manually, they're just automatically here) and the only thing I've actually put efforts in is to customize my bar/taskbar's widgets and keyboard shortcuts because I can't live without them.
And these are things that I do on any distro and on any desktop environment, no matter if it's vanilla KDE Plasma, GNOME, or a fully custom bare-bones window manager with stuff on top of it.
@@BobDevV have you tried arch linux before using archcraft?
I've been using Linux for 18 days and I have found that things that don't just work are hard to fix
I switched away from windows around mid 2022 and went Linux full time. I started with Manjaro and ran that for about 4 months until it broke. Then I switched to Garuda(Arch Based) and have been on it ever since. I'm loving it and don't ever plan to go back to windows. Though I do hate not being able to play some of my games due to EAC.
Yeah, cheaters kinda ruined game compatibility since everyone is scared now 😞
@@MichaelNROH yes, definitely. But so far only 2 games I'd like to play I can't. And that's BF2042 and Lost Ark lol
@@elitedimegaming5290 BF runs though I think? 🤔
I'll need to check but I think it is supported
@@MichaelNROH bf4, 1 and 5 run. The EAC on 2042 doesn't support Linux
Linux has taught me so much i'm indebted to it. i learned a little Python, a little Lua, a little HTML, CSS, and PHP. i can't say the same thing about my Windows experience because it was mostly frustrating. i don't game on my PC so switching to Linux was no big deal. I enjoy the Terminal because it speaks English. as do most Linux Distros. i am a Linux user for life. never using non-Freedom respecting software is a big plus. it's not about cost it's about freedom.
I'm a Fedora user too. Sadly I have to keep Windows dual booted because a few of my favourite games either do not work or work poorly and I haven't been able to fix them. Other than that, it's been a much better experience and I hate trying to work on Windows machines now.
I thought I was the only person who figured out when switching OS, the new should not look the same so you realize you are in a new world and how you did it before isn't how things work now.
ive tried kde, gnome, mate ect & Ubuntu, manjaro, debian, & so on. I was a massive distro hopper but i always ended up on linux mint cinnamon cause honesty it just works & never crashes. This year i made the full switch from windows to mint & i cant see myself going back.
I had the same issue but going from AMD to Nvidia on Fedora. I installed the proper drivers and still it did crazy stuff. So bad the effect it did on my monitor was it persisted even after I booted into Windows and it took a while to wear off.
Now I'm getting weird issues on Ubuntu 22.10 where installing an icon pack through terminal using the provided commands from the Github page caused system icons to vanish and some programs would not run anymore. I had to install another DE to change the icons back because it was Tweaks and the terminal that wouldn't launch anymore. I guess I need to stay away from any "buntu" that isn't an LTS.
I believe I've had the fewest issues on Mint and Arch.
I use Pop OS, learned a few basic terminal commands, shit just works, Im happy.
After watching your video and experiencing issues with my Windows 11 installation, I decided to give Linux a try. I installed an Arch-based distro called EndeavourOS, which turned out to be quite good. I noticed better FPS in many single-player games, especially older ones like Prince of Persia 2008. Overall, I liked my Linux experience during the three months I used it. However, I encountered problems with certain documentations and had to do some translation work. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a subtitle translation tool, which led me to revert back to Windows.
Currently, I'm still using Windows 11, but I really want to switch to Linux. In my experience, while Linux is mature for single-player games, it lacks in multiplayer experience due to anti-cheat compatibility issues. I couldn't play any of my favorite titles on Linux because of this limitation. If Linux receives anti-cheat software support from developers and companies in the future, I would definitely switch to it. I loved how clean and user-friendly it was. Additionally, I want to mention that while using AMD Radeon Software on Windows, I was able to undervolt my GPU, but I couldn't find a way to do that on Linux, which was disappointing.
Lastly, I believe people should use whatever software they prefer as long as it meets their needs. Currently, I can confidently say that Linux has made significant progress in terms of user approachability and software/game support.
Been using Fedora since October 2020 and I don't want to go back to Windows. Been using my PC for writing, gaming and digital painting.
i just finished configuring midi support.
i have to say, it was a mess!
a lot of tutorials didnt work, because they were made for an older version of ubuntu, or another distro, i had to pick and chose specific parts from multiple tutorials in order to get it working.
but its working! i love linux! (again... i will hate it in a few minutes when i find another problem that i cant solve, then love it again when i solve it)
just to detail a few things:
i couldnt make VLC play mid files because i dont know how to installl fluidsynth plugin on vlc snap, so i had to install the .deb version of vlc, its not really a solution, its a work arround, but it works, i think i will have both versions of vlc instaled just in case i need the snap version for something that only works on it... but i will change the icon from one of then or the name to prevent confusion.
i also was able to make wine games that have midi music work! now i just have find time to play those 10+ years of games that i delayed playing because i couldnt get the music to work >.>
oh yeah, and it use a lot of CPU to play the music, much more than to play the game that im trying to play so the game slowdown a bit >.>
maybe i should change this line of code:
fluidsynth -a pulseaudio /usr/share/sounds/sf2/gm.sf2
to try to use alsa instead of pulseaudio?
or maybe i should update to an ubuntu version that uses pipewire...
here is my tip to people who want to play anything on linux:
search for how to play it on linux, witht this order:
protondb (if its a steam game) google lutris + game name , heroic game launcher + game name, playonlinux + game name, if all that fails because its too much of an obscure game, try to discover what game engine was used to make the game and see if you can install any other game from the same engine, if you can, then the process might be similiar (or the wine virtual unit/driver in the case of playonlinux) , you can try either instaling an game made with the same engine or the engine itself and recycle the tutorial.
if the script from pol is not working, read it to see what steps where taken , in my case there were a few notes about the midi music wich i used as hint on how to fix it (the tutorial was not very clear).
some times its better to use cli.
because if you type any command and backup your bash history, its easier to show other people what you did in order to figure out what broken the system, as well as to re do a lot of steps in order to setup the system just as it was before you did that shit , if you need to reinstall the system.
My knee-jerk reaction to your comment on plasma and cinnamon being worse for windows users because they are too similar was to disagree, then I thought about it for a second. I came back to Linux after a decade on Mac, I started with elementary then jumped over to opensuse leap with gnome, but eventually landed on fedora cinnamon spin. I found it to be clean, intuitive, and easy to navigate. I suspect now that it was easy for me to get used to because it is different to Mac OS and have, as a result, stayed with fedora much longer than elementary with pantheon or opensuse with gnome.
When someone would come to Linux not expecting anything to work like on Window, then it would be about preference. Sadly, for many that's not the case.
KDE Plasma, Cinnamon and XFCE are really good Desktop Environments and might fit some more than others. Some even hate Gnome because they don't like it's workflow.
It's all about having the right mindset in the beginning.
Someone should have told you that you can customize KDE or GNOME to look like literally anything you want. People have created some incredibly unique, and awesome, graphical interfaces that look nothing like anything that ever existed before. It's pretty impressive actually.
I'm in the weird spot of not been an expert in computers but I'm also not of the crowd that in the old days would think a CD drive was a coffee cup holder, as the old joke goes. I can put my own OS on and muddle through a basic guide to fix some issues. I've found for me Linux Mint was the best way to go and I'm still on it more than 4 years later. And in that time I've only managed to crash mint once and learned the lesson of don't update your os, then change out the hardware and then do a time shift. That would crash anything, lol. Minit is as stable as hang and is very user friendly for someone who is clueless. Unlike you I didn't have any issues with doing a swap out of my Nvidia for AMD graphics card and I didn't even remove any Nividia drivers when doing so. I still don't know how to do that. It was just plug and play 🙂
For newbies wanting to try out Linux, my advice is to start replacing any of your programs you use that can't work on Linux, with ones that work on both it and Windows and see if you can handle that, before changing over. Then if you find you can live with those changes and decide to take the plunge. You then only have to concentrate on figuring out the OS and not a whole bunch of new programs at the same time. It makes a HUGE difference in how you will experience Linux. Many a times it isn't the OS that upsets people, it is not knowing what to do with the programs on it and having to figure it all out at the same time. Too much for most average users. But hey, even if you don't go to Linux, your bill for programs will be much less, which is very useful if you are like me an in a 3rd world country where the US dollar can on average go as high as 20 times the price you see on a website.
What held me back for a long time was Linux was just not there for the average user when I first encountered it and the instructions were for someone in University and I barely understood computers. Thankfully as time has passed the instructions have become much easier to find and are now getting to a level that one day soon an average user may be able to follow along and sort minor issues. Some issues I had to over come was Nvidia especially when I first tried to go to Linux, did not play nicely. AMD works better even now for graphics cards. Also not everything is in a repository. Knowing how to do a flatpack, .deb and appimage makes a world of a difference. As some programs I use are not in the repository. But for most people most will be found there. But it is good to know how to load things on when they are not.
I think the same points about gnome.
And debian testing has been my home these days. I prefer it, but ubuntu, fedora or arch are fully usable too.
@03:37 Exactly what I did, I installed Garuda Linux on old PC.
Then confidently installed Arch linux on my new pc and just worked fine with KDE.
I am a debian testing + kde plasma user on laptop and there are hell of complains but still love my system
Good Day to you too, Michael! Too similar?!? One does build on what one knows. Thus some similarity to what one already knows can be helpful. Which is one reason why the Cinnamon desktop in Linux MINT is easy for old MS Windows users to, well, use. Yes I was deeply involved in usability testing for software and user I/F products in the R & D plant where I used to work, but like you am not a programmer. As for the reinstall, that goes much better when /home lives on a separate disk, which this old geek does as a default - just love the boot speed from a decent SSD or NVMe drive and an installer that lets me mount that old /home drive is my good friend. I wish you more fun with your Linux journey.
Very awesome. Now that I don't have game pass anymore due to cash being tight. Now I'm tempted to do a full AMD Linux gaming build next year. :)
Yep, I did about the same Windows gave me the run around, and I knew Linux servers. I Used Gnome and I would say, just learn the Hotkeys and how to use it, Workflow was so much faster, and I did the terminal of love. Win-win.
I have found that Debian worked pretty well out of the box (my needs are pretty light), but there was a slight issue with the wifi card. I got around this by using a backports upgrade to get a later kernel, but most people may have a hard time with that. I generally recommend two distros, Debian if the hardware is a little older, and Fedora if the hardware is a little newer.
I don't generally think that most people would be able to install Debian.
Believe it or not, any sort of installer which asks for partitioning or "write changes to disk" will already confuse most.
i fully switched my gaming rig to linux after respawn added support for apex and steamtinkerlaunch add modding support for my game in mid 2022. KDE on endeavour (more stable than vanilla arch) with Hyprland on top here. For work laptop, its the same just without hyprland and custom kernel/wine
Your point about if it looks similar then you want it to work similar is so so true :/ I have seen a lot of people try out Linux with Plasma or Cinnamon and since it is laid out like Windows, when it functions slightly differently they get frustrated and give up ;-;
"I just felt like it" -- honestly that's the best reason ever 😂😂
Using Linux has been a quite journey for me, not perfect sure, lots of weird issues, but that's like everywhere now that i see it, but indeed a new experience that introduced me to better(at least to some point) then when i just used windows. Been doing experiments, Linux gaming with proton(though not much so far kek), vms ALOT of these, and get more familiar with the terminal which for me helped improve coding and research skills. Still use windows but i do not intend to leave Linux even if wsl2 exits, unless some specific machine i would have really disliked Linux.
Recent attempted Linux convert. I have split my 2TB 850x in half and will see how quickly my windows partition shrinks!
Manjaro KDE is the best distro for me. Works out of the box and has constant updates with some level of testing behind them, and also the excellent AUR package database for all the different needs. The only advice I would give to anyone trying Linux is not to even bother with Nvidia, just use integrated Intel or discrete Radeon GPU's. I have wasted so much time on random freezes and trying to debug GPU problems.
I'm testing ZorinOS on my laptop. To my surprise it's about 95% what I need and pleseant to use. The biggest remaining issue is that I do need Capture One support and apparently Wine won't do the trick. If I could solve that I could switch without hesitation.
@@BobDevV Honestly the stuff they lock away, primarily other default desktops, I don't really care about. I'm just looking for a install it and forget it distro not too foreign for a Windows user with broad app compact. Open to other suggestions but so far this has impressed me. I'm not a Linux newbie, even ran Slackware back in 1995 and have used Ubuntu on servers for years, but I need my personal desktop to just work.
My workplace gave me a Lenovo IdeaPad 3, Ryzen 7 5700U, 512GB NVME SSD and 8GB DDR4 RAM for work (Junior SE here Btw!). It was like in July 2021, Windows 10 Isn't that bad that time on that kind of machine. Im still in my new journery of learning backend (Laravel and Golang) and frontend (VueJs). Several months later, I got my first gig as Junior Fullstack developer, developing a dashboard using Laravel and VueJS. That's when Windows 10 hit its own threesold. Since i need to Run both Laravel and VueJS at the same time, i simply cannot multitask due to its low RAM. Desktop crashes, browsers hanging, VSC is so laggy, and other messy stuff. So, I decided to switch to Linux Mint. Its been around two years since that, and My Linux Mint Cinammon still rocks. I have my own PC gaming, so I'm not too worry about playing games in laptops. But probably at some time this year, I might buy a Macbook Pro m1 / m2.