maybe NOT in command Line Since i'm a Linux ULTRA NooooooB 🤣🙃, I'm going let @Nico van Dyk do a Great job Explaining PS; ""PowerShell is actually the shell for .Net *which makes it orders of magnitude more capable than Bash.* You can access all .Net libraries and objects NATIVELY within PowerShell. So? Well, these libraries and objects are the exact same libraries/objects you can use in any .Net language like C#, Python, Ruby and yes, even C++. *Try and Do that in Bash…* And no, that is not compiling a piece of code and the executing it; *it is literally instantiating* any .Net object from within PowerShell and interacting with it THROUGH A COMMAND LINE. The fact of using PowerShell as a OS command line (Like Bash/Command prompt) is kind of a side consequence of all OS commands being API calls. That is why everything in PowerShell is objects and the pipeline deals with objects ( _Not merely one-dimensional strings as is the case with bash_ )"" GreeTs and G0D✝blessUall
I love when people tell me that Linux is hard for an "older" persons to learn and use. I've been using versions of Mint for the past 6 year or so and now I'm 70. I also like setting up Raspberry Pi's for my "older" friends that can't really afford a desktop.
Don't to forget to remind the Youngsters that our generation started software development , the PC industry and Solid state Electronics to name a few .
The most underrated part of your channel is the chapter/section inclusion. Never fails and is so helpful to skip or rewind a part of a video. Thanks Nick
You forgot the biggest area where linux is better. It takes me a few minutes to update my linux box and really means all the software that is installed through it, not just the operating system. And, so long as it's not a kernal update often I do not need to reboot. Windows generally takes quite a bit longer to install a cumulative package update and needs to reboot to update anything operating system related. And then the reboot and install takes quite a lot of time! I spend a lot less time keeping my system up to date in linux than windows.
this. In an arch based distro like endeavourOS, I can literally just start an entire operating system update, keep using my computer, and even if I completely update core packages, restarting is still pretty optional, I can just restart whenever I want, and even with full disk encryption and minimal hardware acceleration, it still boots in under a minute, and I can get everything open and running within a minute and a half. My internet connects instantly even over wifi, it doesnt take 5 seconds before actually registering a hardline, my VPN connects instantly, my browsers restore perfectly, etc. The only thing I genuinely missed from windows was task manager's ability to kill programs on demand without letting them shut down (particularly useful for if I want to be able to restore my browser session but don't want to keep my browser open) but then I found KSysGuard which does exactly that, so after quickly adding a shortcut so that Ctrl-Shift-Esc opens it like the command opens task manager in windows, it's just a flat better experience.
I just cannot understand the obsession with stuff around updates. Just about yesterday I spent an hour updating my raspbian install (400 packages). I also had to lookup guide on how to do that, as dist-upgrade won't actually pull new packages. I also always have to reboot my linux machines if I actually want the updates to do something. So I wouldn't really say there's much difference. Windows does auto update if outside active hours, which I can understand may be uncomfortable for a rendering machine, but in general for a normal user who turns off their computer every day isn't much of a problem.
I consider myself a simple Linux user nowadays. If you don't tinker with it, then there is no troubleshooting that needs to be done. My dad who doesn't understand much about computers has been using Fedora for years now and never run into any issues.
I moved my mum to Fedora a few years back, the only real problem shes having is migrating away from Paintshop Pro 7, which inherently is glitchy due to being very old software running under WINE.
"no troubleshooting required" Yeah, you just wait for nvidia to completely brick the GUI for you, leaving you stranded in TTY until you do said troubleshooting
@@TheExileFox amd however doesnt have that problem but being an nvidia user i know your pain well, or accidently installing drivers for the wrong kernal and then your system cant boot
I'm on this opinion. Linux is now very usable for normal users (unless you have a CPU thread always at 100% that doesn't happen on windows, I'm able to troubleshoot that but how are you going to expect a normal user to fix this?), very usable for professional users, BUT for the people inbetween them (no man's land) like me? It's very frustrating.
Before I watch this I'm calling it now; printing will be on here. Printing on Linux has always been plug and play for me and completely hassle free compared to Windows. Edit: Damn printing wasn't included.
Unfortunately I had a different experience. My HP printer works really poorly with Arch. Not saying that is the open source community's fault. Never buying a HP printer again.
It took me four hours yesterday to figure out that Microsoft left a deprecated registry entry in the registry which prevented Microsoft edge from loading. The joys of IT. In the same four hours i could have installed Linux on at least six machines and edge would have run on all of them...
Honestly, I like edge. I know it's horrible for privacy, but it runs really well and some of the unique features in it are solid. If I ever decide to fully migrate to Linux again, I might still use edge. Maybe. I do love Mozilla and think Firefox is crucial to an open and accessible web.
Don't you love the "dead fish" problem in windows registry? (Dead fish = if I fill your car with dead fish and then you take it out; it will still smell like dead fish. This is like most windows installers leaving behind crap when uninstalling)
@@JohnEusebioToronto same here, I run Fedora and still use Edge due to it's features, the vertical tabs are just great, you can remove titlebar with them since the tabs are on the left now, and you can make them collapsible into a thin bar! My second choice would be Firefox yeah, because it's the second browser which has vertical tabs but they're kinda less convenient as they're a separate tree style tabs extension and can't be collapsed
You don't really "pirate" Windows. Microsoft really does let you install for free, at the cost of a watermark and limited visual customization options. Win11 is worse in this respect, since apparently there's some sort of non-allowance regarding sound switching in its free version, so that's why I personally want to move to Linux.
Windows was a superb OS. And then, Win 8 happened and it started to slowly go downhill with Win 10 and 11. So, in Jan 2020, I switched to Linux since MS pulled the plug on Win 7 which also means motherboard and chipset makers won't maker drivers for Win 7. I moved my gaming to Linux. I moved my mini open source projects to Linux (Thank you Qt Creator). Soon, I am going to contribute to some open source projects just to give a big finger to MS and their tactics.
@@greatcanadianmoose3965 can a beginner install LFS? If so in the handbook it shows that its expected that you don't turn it off until completed, if I shut it down and turn it on the next day what should I do
I agree with all the 7 points. I think Steam chose Linux because when MS tried to kill them, They had no choice but to invest in alternate OS and by choosing Linux they saved millions in R&D; It's great that they contributed back via Proton.
Yes, I really enjoy using package managers. Heck, I love the fact that after installing the OS, I can install almost all the necessary software with one command and just as easily update everything. Managing installed software on Windows is a nightmare. Each piece of software must have its own installer, its own uninstaller, and its own update method. Many programs use their own update services for this. As a result, we have a dozen constantly working services for updating various programs - this is just nonsense! However, the uniform package format is a strength of Windows. I don't care what edition of Windows I'm using, I just download the exe and everything works. Most often it works without the Internet, which is also sometimes useful. It is also easier to transfer an installed application from one computer to another in Windows, since all of its files are usually located in the same folder. The closest thing I know that solves similar problems is AppImage.
I wouldn't care that any application has it's own installer and uninstaller if it just worked. However some are painfully slow and many uninstallers don't remove everything. About the internet stuff: yes, i noticed that, in Windows you can usually just install it from the .exe file even if you are offline (except games), but even Linux software that is ported for Windows often requires to download additional stuff. today they could just pack more stuff into the packages (or all of it), hard disks have Terabytes now and if you have internet, it usually is fast and unlimited, so I think the way Linux handles this is kind of outdated. there is no need anymore to keep packages small.
When I bought my Dell Precision laptop last year, I didn't even need for it to come with a disk since I was going to put in my own. But since I had to choose a disk and an operating system, I chose the smallest disk with Ubuntu since the same disk with Windows 10 cost about 100USD more. lol
About security - Linux is also more secure because you stick to the repos instead of installing apps from random websites, and fewer vulnerabilities are found in the kernel compared to Windows. The user-facing stuff (x11, etc) has been less secure compared to recent versions of Windows, but this is also changing with the advent of Flatpak and Wayland.
there's no single os that suits everyone. theres so much nuance to things, i run several linux distros on different base implementations like arch or debian as example, i run some windows ones too, offline win7 or even xp machines, some are virtualized, some run native, it all depends on my usecase and what solution fits best for it.
@@TheLinuxEXP Not sure if you've done this before but are you up for challenge? Dare to make a windows experiment and find 7 areas where windows is better than linux? Also glad you reassured you're not a libre fanatic who can't see past linux.
In the same boat, deciding between arch or fedora or suse or any ubuntu/ubuntu based distros. I know these are vastly different distros but I want to weigh in all options. Main criteria are virtualization, security, sw updates. Usecase: software engineering, gaming, network/IT work, etc.
@@krazymeanie it's unlikely, but it might happen, because especially the lower end handheld consoles are so much faster with Linux than with windows (steam deck for example)
Another pro for Linux - its virtual desktops are unmatched, especially on GNOME. It is so fluid there to adapt your workspace to whatever you need to do.
Softpedia is actually a decent site in my experience, like CNET, but yeah you're not wrong about the hunting around the internet for EXEs. The best thing for me when I first tried Linux was getting away from all the dodgy freeware and shareware
@@nathsabari97 not everything is on those. I had to run chocolatey AND scoop to get all my stuff via package managers. Usually it’s all in one spot on Linux
So may of these sites have dodgy ads that look like a big green download button. Plenty of scope to screw it up. I gave my woman a fresh laptop but I put Mint on it. She complains that the spreadsheet is not Excel and she complains when ever she can. Usually the problem is not related to Linux. I forget which program she needed and was hunting for it using Google. I directed her to look in the Software Manager and a few minutes later she was happily using the program she had selected. When people don't realise how easy it can be on Linux they are apt to screw it up, like Linus Tech Tips did.
@@nathsabari97 I probably would, only I don't use Windows enough to warrant bothering to set it up. I basically only use Windows in test VMs, since the last 2 years, I think.
I use both Windows and Linux and I love both in particular aspects. But I can't disagree with a single word of this video, it covers both the upside and downsides of Linux, that too in a practical and unique way. Very easy and fun to watch & understand. Love your video quality as always.
Another Linux pros : reducing e-waste and save you on hardware. I still remember my teenager years using Crunchbang (RIP) on a used shitty Intel Atom netbook, because new and shiny laptop are expensive in a third world country. Things are better now for me economically but I still reminisce those day.
The actually biggest thing about linux vs windows: it just WORKS! It won't rot, you can have a single linux installation going on for like 10 years without reinstalling and it will still perform just as good as it did back then, unlike how in windows you need to reinstall every several months because things start to actually destroy themselves. Windows 11 is better at it than 10 though, but still after just 3 months some parts of windows just stopped working whatsoever. This is a very crucial thing for an OS, I really really don't want my machine to stop working randomly or perform very poorly with time. Even though I'm a game developer, I choose linux because unity is available for it and is working good enough.
It just works.....unless you've a Nvidia graphics card. Or have a HP Multifunction Printer Scanner and would like to get the scanner working at which point even though HPLIP installs it you have to go hunting for an obscure plugin mentioned in one single post in a HP support forum. As for a single Linux installation going on for 10 years without re-installing the Mars Express probe would like a word. It's functioned for 19 years on a Windows 98 install.
In Windows you must use the command line for terminal or powershell to do a lot of power user thanks the same can be said about Linux. I really find the terminal in the null issue at this point because, honestly most desktop distributions (Ubuntu based, fedora) generally has a gui available for most day-to-day tasks and settings
First, you talk about power users and then claim that terminal is a non issue cause general day to day tasks have ui sure day to day tasks have ui but not for power users oh and one more thing about the terminal, on Linux, the terminals are more refined
@@ioneocla6577 lxle is a bit different to lxde even tho it sounds very simalir personally i didnt like it and prefer lxde since the way it functions dosent make to much sense and kinda makes things harder for me
You are the one that made me switch to linux and it's just better. I love the customizability of linux and also the ease of software install. And of course if I don't like a distro or desktop environment I can just try out another one. And I think everyone loves the command line:)
As far as backwards compatibility and old systems go: I recently found a Notebook buried in my closet back from around 2010. It was running Windows XP, has 1GB of DDR2 and has an i386 architecture with an Atom N280, made in 2009. I was able to install FreeBSD and it works like a charm for watching movies on it. Now try installing Win 10 on it, let alone 7.
@@jonnywishbone4805 So for web browsing you want to install a 20 year old operating system that has lost all support 8 years ago? I mean, you do you, but you sure as hell don't make it difficult for attackers to gain access to your computer.
@@jonnywishbone4805 Yeah, the entire fucking point is that you don't realize there is an issue with them LMFAO Needless to say "running an XP machine" and "using an XP machine to surf the web" are two entirely different things. But what the fuck do I know about Cybersecurity, I literally only set up the governments IT structure for a living so who cares haha
Fixing bugs quickly in open source projects is a bit of a mixed bag - the flatpack variant of Syncthing GTK has an ongoing icon issue, which means I have an invisible icon on my Steam Deck that will probably be around for a while. Honestly - how quickly bugs get fixed seems to depend more on the passion of the developer(s), rather than the philosophy behind whatever EULA they choose.
Yes, there are bugs in open source project that exist for years literally. There might be a lot of devs ready to fix bugs, but not many gonna take a responsibility over something critical.
While I'm in my Master's program in Data Analytics, I've been using Windows to ensure the best compatibility. I use WSL2 to run my Python scripts. Once I'm finished with my schooling, I plan to make a complete transition to Linux.
Could just be because I've worked with it more for my job, but IMO one of things MS really does deserve credit for on the CLI front is Powershell. The guy who built it was brought onto the project because MS *finally* realized what few tools they had for scripting and automation were poorly implemented at best and usually a PITA to work with. Originally his intent was to leverage a bash shell like cygwin, but for whatever reason it wasn't best suited for the project with its POSIX roots. So starting from scratch he and his team made a shell intending to take the best aspects of bash and evolve it to the next level by making its inputs/outputs object oriented instead of text-based (as is still the case with bash today). The power of having any command automatically accept the output from another command over the pipeline so long as its inputs match the property type really can't be understated. Generally you really don't want to run "Get-Process | Stop-Process" on anyone's live system (if you're lucky the command will kill the Powershell instance before hitting a critical process which bluescreens the system) , but the fact that it works makes it an incredibly powerful tool. To say nothing of the fact that Powershell isn't just an updated CLI on the Windows desktop, but has been leveraged as the official and professional way to administrate practically EVERY enterprise product Microsoft supports. If you learn the Verb-Noun syntax for how to manipulate your local files, or manage processes, or any number of mundane tasks on your local machine, you can translate that knowledge directly toward Active Directory, Azure, Exchange, and numerous other system administrations. They've gone all-in on this command line to the point where the install for Windows Server does not default to the GUI. You can choose to install the Desktop Experience, but the Core Server install is command-line only as Powershell.
I dual boot windows and Linux mint. I’ve recently got trackpad gestures working on Linux mint. The main thing stopping me from using it as my main os is that the sound sounds worse than on windows. At least it does on my speakers, haven’t tried it with headphones or AirPods yet.
Windows can be a bigger time sink than Linux at times. Recently on my loaned work laptop, I've had an issue where Active Directory's search feature crashed the UI app, I must've lost a work day's worth of time these past 2 weeks trying to fix it. What seems to have fixed it after everything else failed was to grab an exe from Intel's website to update the iGPU driver. Oh did I mention the Display section of the Settings app started doing the same, magically fixed itself and broke again at the exact same time and that's how I managed to fix it? Yeah, Windows is definitely easier to troubleshoot. Now I gotta make sure it doesn't "update" back to the old version.
This is by far one of the best videos made, explaining the strong sides of Linux - I appreciate the effort Nick made in order to make this fantastic video, without a doubt this took a long time to make. I love how deeply honest the review is. All of this is 100% the reason I'm running Linux as my primary OS.
In My Opinion The Steam Deck And SteamOS Is The Thing Tha Will Get Linux In To The Mainstream. The Biggest Problem So Far Is That The Normies Will Always Prefer A Simple "Plug And Play" Experience And SteamOS Is Going In A Direction That Soon The Normies Won't Be Able To Tell The Difference Were It Not For The Different Icons.
I'm going to challenge the point about Linux package management. While it is ostensibly a better user experience, it puts distro maintainers in between app developers and users. As a result, distro maintainers--not app developers--control when you get app updates. In some cases, like for servers, this can be a good thing, but for user-land software, it leads to undesirable fragmentation (think Android update rollouts vs. iOS update rollouts). Rolling-release distros mitigate this (albeit at the expense of stability), but universal packaging formats like Flatpaks, Snaps and AppImages are likely the long-term solution. However, not all apps are available in these formats, and those that are may have been packaged by an unknown third-party instead of the developer. With Windows and Mac, when a new version of an app is released, users typically can get it immediately. And generally speaking, they can get this new app version independently of any OS updates that they may not want. Again, I know Flatpak et. al. are solutions, and some distros are defaulting to these as their official or preferred app packaging solutions. But the need for these solutions shows that traditional Linux package management isn't always an advantage.
I'm really curious of Linux, but i'm an absolute Windows user, since i was a child. But i really enjoy watching your channel and DioLinux's... And I LOVE the customization part in Linux, and the freedom you have to work the way you want. I've distro hopped quite a bit hahah, but i'm a graphic designer as well and i need the Adobe Software. (And i'm prone to use Gimp and Inkscape, but i need some of Adobe specific features) So i really WANT to use it (Linux, as my main OS), but i kind of can't without rebooting every time, is there a solution for this?
You could use any Linux desktop & run virtualized Adobe apps that open transparently (they are running inside the Windows VM but graphically mapped to your Linux desktop compositor ) project is called Winapps. Nick even made a video about it: ua-cam.com/video/fzzf2QnyPgY/v-deo.html If you give the VM control over PCI to a GPU & enough CPU cores on the host you could even run Winblow$ exclusive AAA titles & edit video from that VM. Like it was just another Application / Workspace inside your Linux OS. Tried & tested under KDE & GNOME X11
The beginning of this video is hilarious! Had to thumbs up just because of that alone. Don't care. You are very likable. 1. Love EXE files. Way better in my opinion than missing repository files because it's not ARCH or dependency issues. OEM versions > Retail versions of Windows. 2. I spend a lot of time fixing Linux problems than Windows - however, at work, I spend all of my time fixing Microsoft problems such as Office 365 and Azure over anything else. 3. I still have about four bugs reported in Linux apps that still have not been fixed today. Only a few people reported it but it still exists as a problem just not that many people run into it so they never get fixed. With Linux bugs it is a popularity contest meaning the bug has to be popular enough to get attention. I don't blame them but can be frustrating sometimes.
You miss the point of WSL... it wasn't to benefit Windows at all, it was getting people used to the idea Linux is just some app you run in Windows, so when future hardware is locked down to only allow Windows to run, they can point and say "see you can still run Linux as an app"
He doesn't know what he is talking about. Nor do you. IT Departments need a way of running Linux native apps while being able to administer Linux boxes cheaply because developers need things like Redis and other enterprise server software that is Unix/Linux only and the easiest way to do that is WSL or Docker. Even people that know how to admin Linux server have admitted to me they hate using Linux on the desktop because a lot of stuff just doesn't work or they can't figure out to get it working. Many of them move to Macs as at least it is a Unix OS.
@@dave7244 Doesn't sound like anyone I'd want working for me... can't figure it out lol. You are talking about why people use it though, not why MS made it. If you think MS had no ulterior motives... you don't know MS.
@@AyaWetts MS has large business partners that run Linux stacks on their server and in Azure. Linux is more difficult to administer compared to Windows internally, businesses can do a lot of this through Azure and related services. Outsourcing infrastructure to cloud services and simplifying admin is a major cost saver for corps. No ulterior secret motives needed.
I had to retire before switching to Linux. My career was developing production automation and test systems which was 80% software. Most of the API's for the equipment required Windows, so everywhere I worked I had to write software in Windows (Visual Studio) with c/c++/c# and occasionally VB. But, more than that, the companies I worked for were all standardized on Windows, so Linux was never an option. I was always fascinated by Linux, but could never justify using it in my day to day work. At home, all I needed was a Chromebook for accessing online content. Now that I'm retired, I'm spending a lot of time learning Linux and learning to program with c# on VSCode. It's a lot of fun and sometimes challenging. I always hated windows I could spend a day just listing all the reasons, but I would rather spend them working on my LMDE 4 OS.
My biggest criticism for Linux distros as a mainstream or productivity desktop is consistency. Different distro goes their own way in UI/UX, and UI/UX can change drastically from one release to another (once the distro manages decides it’s no longer interested in a desktop manager and wants to adopt a brand new one). Package Managers in Linux is a big exaggerated. Not every app you can find are available on package managers and plenty you may need to download the source code and build from scratch. Also package manager files can also be risky. In my opinion it can only be alleviated if the distro has an native App Store and vets every single packages uploaded to its App Store. But if you’re downloading a package file from a 3rd party site, you’re still ending up with the same risk as you do on Windows. In comparison, Windows has their marketplace and Mac has their App Store. I personally would give up all these need to be bleeding edge, for consistency. Especially consistency with desktop. That is what I don’t mind iOS looking relatively the same release to release, changing just a few things which let me to adjust. A huge change in UI/UX could throw you off and impact productivity and making it difficult to develop “muscle memory” for using the UX. A commercial release of Linux design to tackle mainstream would need to really consider sticking to a UX/UI design language from release to release and making only small changes -- the compromise is though the UI/UX language may not change from release to release, give power users options to customize their desktop, but hide these or put them away for mainstream users.
@@tylerdean980 Not windows desktop manager, default out of the box desktop for Linux Distros. In the earlier days of RedHat, then Fedora, they can’t seem to decide which desktop environment to “IT” from distro to distro, swing between Gnome and KDE. Some installs allow the user to pick one. This is all fine and all, but it’s not going to work for the mainstream. Recently, some distro has tried to put some consistency, ElementaryOS is one nicer ones I tried. But it’s too young and doesn’t provide everything I would want for a mainstream desktop. As much as some power-users hate Windows and MacOS, they each use 10+ years of consistency where some of us can blind-folded walk some else through Windows navigation over the phone. It’s a chore to walk a mainstream person through Linux over the phone without screen share. There’s too many Linux distro out there, each differing from each other a little to a lot. It’s hard to settle on any one to become a mainstream O/S. I think a commercial company (maybe Valve/Steam OS could be it), would need to adopt Linux and create a commercial Linux and put a team behind UX/UI engineering and Experience engineering to make it work while working to get wide adoption from commercial developers, like what Apple did with FreeBSD and making Darwin and macOS.
@@gene081976 The UI only changes if you choose a distro that changes things for you. Like Ubuntu going back and forth between GNOME and Unity. But Linux Mint XFCE has looked basically the same since its conception. Some distros prioritize stability and marginal improvements, and other's don't. As for Windows, the UI changes heavily from one version to the next. You have to re learn everything, because they move settings around. But MATE and basically every standalone window manager look the same since forever. Many like IceWM and Openbox have been in development for decades and look basically the same as they did back then. You can pick your poison on Linux and BSD. And, there are already companies that make desktop Linux distros, like opensuse and Ubuntu, or Pop_OS!.
@@tylerdean980 This is the double-edge sword for Linux, too many distro’s too many options and choices. It confuses mainstream users and in my opinion potentially causes too-many-options-paralysis. It becomes an O/S for non-maintreamers who enjoys having all these options to pick from. I understand your statement about standalone Desktops, I’ve used Linux since Slackware and RedHat 1.0, but I guess my point wasn’t clear that I am focusing on why Linux and these distros can’t become a MAINSTREAM OS/Desktop. An advanced Linux user CAN install, setup, tune, and configure their desktop manager and CAN make it look consistent from upgrade to upgrade. A Mainstream user probably CANNOT. And I agree, Windows did change from MAJOR release to MAJOR release. But they typically stick with that release for almost a decade. The changes are visual for most part but when you actually dig in and use it, it’s not that drastic. Many elements are the same. Regedit looks the same, Computer manager looks the same, group editor looks the same. The taskbar visual have change, but functionality is basically the same from Windows 95 through Windows 10. Windows 11 was the first that changed a bit by moving things around. It’s actually quite minor after using it. IMHO again, I think for any one distro to become a mainstream player, they need a dedicated UI/UX team to establish a competitive design language and stick with it core philosophy while polishing it and updating it without drastically changing it. It has to be an evolution in each update, not a revolution. And give the option to power-users to change their desktop manager and do whatever they want, while also giving an easy way to restore factory-desktop. Linux will always be my go to OS for servers, appliances, backend things… just not my client-endpoint desktop of choice. For that, I [currently] choose MacOS.
@@tylerdean980 That's one thing I do appreciate about Linux. If you had say a distro of Fedora installed that, at the time of installation used Cinnamon as it's main DE, and suddenly on the newest update they switched it to GNOME, Linux allows you to simply switch right back over to Cinnamon again. And even better, you get to change the DE _without_ losing all of the new kernel and distro updates that came with that DE change, _and_ you can now continue to update _your_ version of Cinnamon completely separated from the distro manager you chose - you can even use _someone else's version from a totally different distro_ if you so choose. If you loved how Windows 8 looked (some actually liked the fullscreen Start menu) and after updating to Windows 10 found it was now gone, the _only_ way to switch it back is to literally uninstall Windows 10 _manually_ and go through a _manual install_ of a fresh copy of Windows 8. And you lose _all_ of the updates to the base kernel, the DE, the security updates, software updates and potentially lose compatibility between your software and the downgraded OS, nevermind the loss of future security and DE/OS updates when Microsoft decides _for you_ that they're no longer supporting that version. It's actually one of my biggest pet peeves of Windows. The fact you used to be able to make _your_ desktop environment look the way _you wanted it_ (yay for XP!) - now we're stuck with whatever Microsoft _thinks_ "looks good" whether we like it or not. With no way to get a lot of those customization options back again. At least, not without risking 3rd party software and having to trust that they don't include anything dodgy hidden away or something that will break the OS. If I wanted to be _told_ how my desktop environment should look - and have it always identical to everyone else's, I would have gone with a Mac (I still don't understand why Mac users seem so happy to have absolutely no control over what their DE looks like with the exception of just the wallpaper). Both Microsoft and Apple have taken the "personal" out of "personal computer". They're not PCs any more unless they're using Linux. And this comes from a Windows user since Win '95 who isn't using Linux.
My favorite part of linux is that I can type "sudo pacman -Syu" and within a couple minutes my entire system will be fully updated, and will usually not need a reboot
Also: Ability to be managed remotely. Because everything can be done on the command-line, you don't need a whole remote desktop and it's feasible to manage a remote Linux machine over a pretty low-bandwidth link.
openssh-server can actually installed under PSH by now and allows you doing whatever works over the term with Windows when sshing into the machine. Including 'chocolate' or 'winget'
@@MegaManNeo indeed. My point was more about native support for terminal emulation and command line control has been in windows for decades. Indeed there are now tonnes of open source modules that make managing things like SQL server a dream over a remote terminal.
Man, this is the kind of video that hurts my feelings as a Windows user. Linux is amazing for a lot of things, but as you say about Windows customization: It's not for everyone (yet) 1. You still need to activate those package managers to be able to use their benefits. You don't have Flatpak right away on most Linux distros for instances. You need to do a bit of thinkering and research before using it. And yes, in Linux you still can install .deb packages and others using a command line in some cases (compared to just downloading them and install them with a click, which not all distros are able to do stock) 2. You don't have to pay for Windows at all if you already had Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10 before. Sometimes by using the Microsoft Account everybody hates, you get Windows activated with a "digital license". Learning about Windows? The number 1 operating system that most people in the world use (even Linux users because sometimes it needs to be done)? That's kinda unfair. 3. Open source. We're getting there eventually 4. Linux is definitely more resource friendly than Windows... Until you use a laptop with batteries. This has been improving on Linux but I can't understand how in a lightweight distro like Lubuntu drains the battery almost the same way as Windows 11 does. Again, this is improving. 5. Privacy. I'm not so sure about this one. You can argue that the open source nature of a distro makes it way more private since you can see the code changes and the community will get really mad about untold yet found telemetry data collection. The thing is, I as an user can't tell for instance that the one toggle you use to turn off the telemetry on some distros it's actually doing so. We take it for granted (exactly like most people do on Windows when not reading the terms and privacy stuff). It's a tough topic because you as a common user don't know for certain that's being respected, you just assume. 6. Customization (or dare I say, the Do-It-Yourself-ness) on Linux. Sure, you can modify whatever you want on Linux the way you want, but that's not too great for someone that's starting on the system. There's a reason why Windows always looked the same (except for Windows 8, even though it was just in the start menu and it was "fixed" by putting the button back) and it's familiarity. It's fine you have a lot of options in Linux that you can adjust the way you like, but it can be so overwhelming for a regular using starting on the platform. Look Ubuntu or PopOS. Those two are trying to make a system that is easy to understand for everyone and still can be modified a lot, and then the "Linuxeros" (hardcore Linux users) say they're "ruining Linux by making it user friendly". WHAT? 7. The command line. Agree, Linux is better here. Windows comes from MS-DOS, way before the GUI as well. Right now, it's all about it but many solutions can be done on the command prompt as well as in the graphical user interface. And now, we have Linux sauce all over the new Terminal/PowerShell. This Linux vs Windows intensity is useless when the current Microsoft CEO is pushing Linux since he started. And it's working great. Things like WSL, WSA, and many other things come from this. For me, this idea that "Windows is bad, Linux is better" is dumb and it's getting old already when you consider all the things that can be done on Linux because of Windows and all the million things that Windows users have now because of Linux. Everyone can pick their poison and be happy about it (even if it is a spying poison, or a very nerdy, "look at me, I'm different" one)
So use Linux everyday and fully switched 2 years ago. My biggest reasons for switching were the following: 1) update process, 2) privacy, 3) free as in freedom, ie customization, 4) no bloatware, 5) speed, ie boots faster, opens apps faster, closes faster, just a generally smoother/more responsive environment. Being honest many apps in Linux are not as polished as their Windows and Mac counterparts, but for my use case they are fine. I have to use Windows at work, but in private i have 1 PC and 2 laptops running Mint and dont see myself ever switching back
I am new to Linux. I use it on my spare laptop. I am running Kubuntu, and so far I am really happy with it. It reminds me of the Windows interface that I know, but with the benefits from Linux. It's a nice place to start IMO.
It amazes how how KDE isn't more popular as I also found it the cleanest transition from Windows and the easiest to use when switching between the two. Except Dolphin is night/day better than explorer IMO as a file manager.
@@alexatkin I tried Ubuntu first, but GNOME was just not to me liking at all. Then I learned about Kubuntu. Mint is also a distro on my radar, as well as Pop OS. I tried Fedora too and it was okay, but not a favorite for me.
@@kendarr Problems I had was no other DE mimicking Windows in all behaviours, there would always be something I tried to do that didn't work how I was used to. Then over time KDE overtook Windows in having functionality Windows did not, 10/11 then started copying some of those features (granted, some may have come to MacOS first, not sure). ;) But overall I find KDE has the richest feature set and just works how I expect it to.
You forgot the part where I have to Google the name of a package because it’s different depending on what distro you’re on… Or you have to add the company’s third party repository to be able to download it via a package manager… lol but the one command updates are great
Googling is not of an issue, provided that distro provides a wiki page for the packages (Arch have it). Also, most distros have embedded it's package lists into a GUI application, so no need to know the package name.
Yeah, Linux is infinitely better in letting you know what went wrong and helping you trouble shoot. That's why I switched to Linux in the first place, Windows was acting up for no reason one time too many
For me, Linux is better than Windows in so many ways. Even on the "good" versions of Windows, I ran into various problems. I even ran into updates causing problems with Windows 7. Then I disabled updates, and it still updated. Then I found out there was a secret toggle to really disable updates, which did work. Needless to say, that was frustrating. That was just one of my update issues. Another way Linux is way better is during the actual installation. Installing Linux takes me 15-20 minutes. Windows takes forever. But my favorite measure of Linux being better, for me, is that I have my parents on Mint. Of course, I had to get it all set up for them, not that Windows would be any different for a fresh install. With Windows, it was nothing but headaches. My dad is terrible with computers and badgered my with questions. My mom got frustrated with all the annoying Windows nag notifications and other nonsense. Putting them on Mint has their computers running faster, more stable and secure, and I don't have to answer computer questions on a nearly daily basis. Convincing them to ditch Windows worked out so much better than even I imagined it would.
I agree totally with the speed of linux on older machines. I have Pop! Os on an old pc (AMD A4-3420 APU with 8gbs ram) and it runs as smoothly as my gaming rig with a Ryzen 3700x w/32gbs of ram.
@@wayland7150 That machine had both windows 7 and 10 on it. It ran 10 like it was running through thick mud. Took 5 minutes to boot and be ready for use. With Pop! it's up and ready in 30 seconds. My only Windows pc has a 2500K with 16gb of ram and takes forever to boot Win10.
I got Linux Mint cinnamon recently on an old PC. How far will the GUI take me? When will I absolutely have to use the terminal for the first time? I have been looking at the terminal a bit but haven't needed to use it much.
On the topic of valuing time, you're right if the time is your own - you will spend time learning regardless. Where that argument falls down is if you're the IT guy at a firm rolling computers out to your staff, for instance. How much time and productivity would you lose while your users get reacquainted? I'd wager quite a lot.
Windows also has hidden updates they don't alert the user about. I know this because it auto-restarts, but GRUB doesn't let it auto boot, so if I use Windows sometimes qhen I go to wake my computer it is in GRUB. Linux never auto-restarts.
I have both on my desktop. Two computers, same model and both running on the same monitor (one at a time). I share my keyboard through a three-way USB which is switchable, with their own mouse on either side. I'm running Windows 11 22H2 Beta on one BMAX M-3 Plus with 1TB SSD and a 1TB HD backup with 32GB RAM. The Linux is Manjaro Testing on the other BMAX has 512GB SSB and 500GB SSD backup with 16GB RAM. The point is both have things that work for different experiences and different Apps.
Windows has one huge attraction to me. It's a great destination for Windows users. I spend my time helping people who want to use Linux. I gave up trying to help Windows users years ago. They are just two completely different animals. Someone else who thinks Windows is better is a better candidate to help those folks.
If you want to try out several linux distros, how do you go about it? Virtual machines on your Mac or Windows desktop or laptop? What are the minimum system requirements for cpu and RAM? Or do use DAAS, Desktop As A Service? Spin up a virtual machine at a cloud provider like Amazon, Linode, Hetzner, ... and connect to it with VNC? What are the system requirements here? Or can you use a Raspberry Pi (version 4 with 8 GB RAM)? I know Ubuntu has a version for it, but do other popular distros have one?
Download the ISO of a Linux distro and put it on a USB drive or a DVD, and boot to it. You can try each one out without making any changes to your system, as long as you don't install it.
You hit the nail on the head with this one, Nick. Keep these coming, using these to show newbs some of the benefits of switching to Linux. This is exactly what we need + that other vid you did recently explaining Proton and overall Gaming on Linux. You rock. Also, Tuxedo ftw!
I feel you bruh, i have like 10 of the same black shirt too and 3 of the same shoes(i couldn't get more of it :x ) I don't need to think 'this fits with my other clothes' because it fits with everything. Confortable and less time losing
The stupid thing about the Command Prompt / Terminal with Windows is, the command-line interface used to be _so important_ to Microsoft. To the point that the _original_ DOS (which was already showing _massive_ promise with various versions - my first encounter was Acorn Computers version called Acorn-MOS - and was getting pretty advanced in what you could do with it, even ending with the very first early signs of an actual graphical DE) was completely murdered by them through completely evil and dirty, sometimes borderline illegal (or outright illegal) practises, until everyone finally gave in and let their own, crappy, less-advanced version "MS-DOS" take over entirely. And then they went and dumped it anyway ... and now they're trying to bring it back again after realising their mistake.
As software developer I consider Windows hugely inferior to Linux. The difference is productivity and performance. I always bing an example of Linux VM running on Windows host that still managed to build Java project faster than the host system itself... Not mentioning the set of dev tools on Linux that are just available in seconds.
@deadbeef "Sounds like a lie..." - if you like to think so, suit yourself. As for Visual Studio I agree that it is great IDE for what it does, but how does it support the idea that whole OS platform is better for development? It seems to me that you are argueing that Windows is the best platform for developing for Windows. I am not gonna argue with that...
@@Diviance I get your point. I use Windows myself for some gaming and desktip work. Many applications are just not supported on platforms other than Windows by manufacturer's choice. Still, when it comes to Java development, Linux always wins. Productivity and performance are just so much better. Moreover, I have run home server for media streaming and surveillance for many years already. I have never even considered Windows for such purposes. Not mentioning some home automation projects where Windows is simply non existent. So, you will definitely find cases for which Windows is practicaly the only choice, but also many others where it is not a choice at all.
I dont think you should say that all distros only collect telemetry anonymized and opt-in because most distros do, for eample chrome os and zorin os collect data in a way you dont want
I switched to Linux, Mint to be exact, and I like it very much. Especially because of performance. I have it with XFCE desktop environment and even though, I have it for only 6 or 7 days, I already changed it's look to my liking, there's so many options and you can implement them pretty easly, which I like. In Windows, I needed to tinker more, to change it's look, to what I would like and often it was making my system slow. Linux Mint XFCE looks beautiful for me now and there's no performance drop, at all. I love how small it is. With Windows, without any, installed by me programs, out of 1TB of HDD, I got like 800GB or less, for me. With Linux, I had almost all of my 1TB. I got no problem with games, except with two of them, but in one of them - Progressbar95, I fixed it's audio problem really easily. And with the second one - Devil May Cry HD Collection, the cutscenes, in form of WMV videos, are rotated by 180 degrees, but it's not affecting gameplay. So yeah, no big problems, especially with performance. My laptop is not so strong anyway, so I am not even playing the kind off new or newest games. Kind off sucks, that I wasn't able to install Clip Studio Paint, that I bought, before I got to know about it's change in perpetual license. But fortunately Krita works much better on my laptop with Linux, than with Windows. I love that I can install system updates, whenever I want and the process of update itself is not slowing down my system, unlike Windows. Actually, I switched because latest Windows update, did something that caused Microsoft's OS to work very slow on my laptop and neither disk defragmentation or dick clean up, couldn't fix it. Maybe re-installation of Windows could, but I thought that I much prefer to just switch to Linux, as it would be fourth time, when I needed to re-install Windows on my laptop. And yeah, one time was because of me, as I interrupted the Windows's update, but the rest two, were because updates broke something. I also like, how easy was to do one small thing. A keyboard in my laptop, don't work properly, so I am using the external one and when I'm using laptop on my bed, I like to place that externat keyboard on a laptop, in place of laptop's keyboard. And because I didn't want to press anything by mistake, I wanted to disable the built in laptop. I had problems with it on Windows, as after one update in the past, the disabled and even uninstalled laptop's keyboard, after restart, was installed and enabled again. I needed to do kind off too much tinkering to disable it permanently. But on Linux, I just set a command: xinput disable "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard", to automatically run on log in and that was it, the built in keyboard wasn't enabling itself since. I mean, it was working only on log in screen, but only there. So yeah, I don't think, I will be coming back to Windows. I didn't even do a backup of my previous Windows installation, I just took a folder with my artworks and saves for some games and left Windows. And if one day, I would buy a new device, after Microsoft's another tries to force people to use Windows, I will do everything I can on that new device, to throw Windows out and install Linux back.
Switched to linux because my PC was too old for W11. Best choice of my life, work stuff, private stuff and gaming working perfectly and the same HW is snappier than W10. Also now I don't feel the need to buy a new PC. Thanks Mr Penguin :)
TuxCare - sounds like a great product. It would be great to hear why such a product "should" be required for the Python programming language. That is why are Python developer modifying their APIs to such a point that apps based upon previous versions are breaking.
"Windows has a store now and it's getting better" Yeah, now you don't even need to try and dodge the spyware because there is no point to it anymore. Spyware is now a "feature". Also I just think Microsoft is ingenious for not letting you start apps on that store if your OS is not updated. Obviously this is done for security concerns, wouldn't want all that spyware to stop working.
That's a bit cynical. Of course they want their telemetry etc. to run, and they do run a garbage ad business with a ton of dark patterns to herd you to Bing. But Windows is used by an absurdly large number of people, a good chunk of who barely understand anything about computers, and that's probably charitable. Some of the biggest malware disasters in recent memory have occurred because people didn't update their Windows machines and their computers got hijacked into a botnet. Linux is mostly deployed on servers, or used by enthusiasts who know what they're doing and like being up to date. The difference is just night and day.
@@Komatik_ "It is used by a lot of people" is objectively a bad standard to measureb anything by. Yeah it is used by a lot of people, because that spyware comes preinstalled on 99.7% of computers which makes Windows billions in licensing deals. Start putting Linux natively on every new computer and watch how quickly that changes. As MentalOutlaw once fittingly said: For normies, Windows is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.
@@Finkelfunk I didn't claim that Windows was necessary for people. I said that it is used by a huge number of people who won't update unless forced to, and the end result of not being forced to has been a multitude of huge security issues. One of those large botnet scandals? It happened long after Microsoft had patched the security flaw used by the malware. But because people didn't patch, there was a crapton of vulnerable machines around. That's the point.
@@Komatik_ Maybe people and especially companies (who are the main target of botnets) would update their systems regularly if it weren't for the fact that every other update borks Windows in a major way, causing data loss, boot failures and otherwise exceedingly long down times. You think a logistics hub can afford to wait for all PCs to "just update to the newest version" every other day if the PCs need to restart several times, get boot looped or stuck on the installation script and need to relaunch at all?
Yes i agree with every word in this video..I was a windows user but switched on fedora 38, 2 months ago..i am super satisfied with it..the main reason i ditched win is hardware support..i have relatively new hardware but not enough new for windows 11(ok there is workaraound,and i use it for a very short time)..and i noticed on sight how faster fedora is, and uses much less resources from my hardware...like i just bought super new computer lol..
There is a lot of difference with windows and Linux OS's to be out there not just that a lot of options not all Linux is require internet to be exact and can run smoothly and as time and development continues we will be getting better Verizo's of those systems and what not at most for gaming and personal use I believe in a couple more years or so Linux will be more main stream and the market will shift completely I no now that system76 is making PC's with popOS completely And no of the Linux phones that are being made/in development and what not and hope for more of a future with more alternatives to computers and more technology then just Android IOS or windows / Mac the future is bright
The gamers are getting into Linux and tat will help a lot. It's already the operating system of Internet servers and of little boards like the Raspberry PI of which there are millions produced every year.
I love your shirts, it fits your style lol. I love software management on Linux, it's so simple and efficient. And I love having mostly very tiny updates using a Debian base, I can update it reliably no matter the connection I'm using, even in hotels and whatnot.
Possible Linux is better, but these are my thoughts 1 - Software manager. You can update directly the software through the application, or using winget if you want to do it by powershell (> winget upgrade all) or having another windows package manager (there are few options there). It's not a critical thing if you don't need to deal with dozens or hundreds of different programs. And the programs in windows, doesn't matter how old it is, or the windows updates, it always works, thanks to the windows API. 2- Monetary cost: You can install windows for free and legally. Period. The only thing that it will not allow you is to change the personalization (that means, you can not set up a wallpaper.) 3- Time in troubleshooting windows. Not comparable to the time doing int Linux. And, with Windows Restoration Points, it's not need to troubleshoot anything. Just go to the restore point where the things were working before you mess up. Personally, I have a windows system Image in an SSD that I can recover bare metal windows in less than 10 minutes with all the programs already installed. 4- Fixing the OS: I'm not interested at all to fix the code of any OS, and I can say with confidence any users that want the OS for work, are willing to do it. I had 0 problems with Windows 10 until now. 5- SSD espace. Yes, Linux works better with prehistoric machines or with very low performance ones. Most laptos nowadays have at least 500 GB if not more. This argument could be valid 15 years ago. 6- Customization: There are a tons of programs open source that can add the functionality that you are looking for in Windows. I have a second task bar installed where I can put all my shortcuts to programs, files and folders. Do you want a better tile manager? You have a lot of options. etc. 7- Security. Windows programs have algorithmic keys that alerts you that a program is not trustworthy. If you want to installed, its at your own risk. Windows have also the Microsoft defender, that works very well. 8- Command line. I'm not an IT manager that needs to modify servers and a lot of laptops at the same time, but this is why powershell was created.
There's a lot of things I want to say, but I don't have time. Try doing some more research on things like security. And whatever customization windows has linux has it 10x. You can make your own desktop with openbox if you feel like it even.
@@elecbaguette " And whatever customization windows has linux has it 10x. " too bad each UI pulls blanket on itself and refuses to cooperate. I've seen more than once how you choose dark theme for the app and only half of the windows go dark as others use their white styling from system settings (KDevelop had trouble with this for ages, but I think they only recently fixed it) Oh, and the defaults are insane. For example, you need gnome tweak to change right click emulation on trackpad. Why do I need to download additional package for such basic personalization?
Off-topic question, but I'm struggling to decide between Mailspring and the new Thunderbird (102). I like how clean Mailspring is as well as some of the features, but it tends to hang when deleting or trying to fetch new mail from the server if it's been running for a little while. I've used Thunderbird a lot in the past and it was passable, but haven't tried the newest update for more than a couple of days.
the problem with linux desktop is that you have to live with the limitations of an OS not supported by the industry, whether it's adobe products or nvidia drivers. Linux on the server has fantastic industry backing so this is not an inherent issue with linux, but the fact still remains - if you're on linux desktop, prepare to sacrifice things you like to do like work in video production or play the latest dx12 games with RTX
A few more things: Linux links and short cut keys work from anywhere on the system, but Windows links with short cuts have to be on the desktop. Short cut keys the user creates in Linux are not tied to links. I can also change my keyboard keys on the fly with bash scripts and short cut keys. Power Shell is a pain to use compared to Bash. You mentioned that, but it is a real pain by not being intuitive in it's commands. They should have built on CMD. It's easier to access your encrypted drive with Linux. With Windows you might end up without being able to access the drive. File sharing is easier with Linux, and can be secured better. You can even make hidden shares, and restrict the types of files sent. Linux can stay running 24/7. Windows often messes up an application meant to run 24/7, like security cameras, with as little as checking for updates. Programing my G604 mouse is more reliable and easier in Linux than Windows. More wear and tear on the OS drive in Windows than Linux. Auto downloading of Windows updates can drag everything to a crawl in Windows. Not so with Linux, which is why my spouse switched to Linux.
Linux isn't better then windows until you people get your heads out of the sand and start actual collaborating to make a functional UI, that does not ever have to hit the command line or hidden config files, for what should be very simple tasks. Doing some basic things in linux can be an actual chore, and a waist of time. The only thing I use linux for is a system that is 1 and done like a router, that never needs to be updated, because changing anything inside linux, install is an all day task.
This comments isn't even close to true, I am the first one to say that Linux is far from perfect and I also don't hate windows. People can use anecdotal evidence all they want and I can as well. Windows has for the majority been just fine, does what I need, plays the games I want, doesn't chug on my system however...Your comment boils down to being stupid? All you did was cry about basic things....like super basic....You couldn't even properly make an example of the specific complaint you have. But have the nerve to tell people they have their head in the sand. No...that's you...being too stupid to perform the most basic of things on a Operating system.. Windows also has hidden files that need to be allowed to view... Windows also does some actions on command line like network tools....You bitched about user training issues and act as if its the community and the system at fault..
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Or maybe because developers(majority non paid) want to work on "interesting" parts that solve their problems at expense of UI that solves users' problems? Even SerenityOS supports search across menu which is more functional than windows, something which is not possible on linux due to it lacking one single mechanism of menu.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 SerenityOS is hobby OS. Like templeOS, but more serious. Searching across menus is like "Search everywhere"(shift-shift) of CLion. Only it works in literally every application. You don't need to remember in submenu of which menu the functionality is hidden. You just type it. Is it file->preferences? Options->preferences? tools->preferences? Who cares, just type "pref" and you'll get to the preference. Super useful, and So this is closer to querying app with dbus rather than searing with find. Speaking of, linux really needs more dbus support. That would solve lots of integration headaches.
Regarding privacy & security: There is a official article from microsoft called "Windows 10, version 21H2, [...] required Windows diagnostic events and fields". It documents which data is collected just by Windows if we restrict the data collection as much as possible (selecting none/minimum). But you shouldn't be in a hurry: The Estimated time to read is 359 minutes (!!!). According to the print preview, it's about 145 A4 papers. There is also another document for optional diagnostic data, which is "just" 26 minutes. Even though I knew Windows was collecting some data, it was a shocking amount when I found this article. It seems this has grown, the same documentation for e.g. Windows 10 - 1703 is still huge, but noticeable less than on recent versions. It's also interesting that there is much less optional data. So microsoft considers nearly all data "required". If this is true, Windows 10 and 11 should be able to read minds compared to older releases like Windows 2000 or XP, which collected way less information 🙈
I think Windows is okay for most users, those who are happy to accept that their computer controls them and not the other way around, but for those who want to be in full control and have things the way they want them, Linux is the answer.
I have a fairly old Acer laptop that was shipped with Windows 8. It's had many faults, first the DVD drive stopped working then the touch tablet failed and after that the batteries stopped charging. Once Win8 support ended I thought I'd try putting Linux Mint on it, it's now completeley rejuvinated and useable again. The DVD drive works, the tablet works and the batteries charge properly so all those faults I assumed were hardware failures were in fact issues with Windows. It also runs much quicker, so if you have an old Windows PC you're thinkng of binning don't, try this first!
i partly disagree with point 2 just because most of windows user actually likes the fact that we have offline package installers (exe,msi) that is unified and not needing to install online package distribution types like linux where some apps are snap or flatpak or appimage etc
Agreed. When I was using Garuda, I often had issues with updates: garuda and pacman assume you have perfect internet connection (I use mobile phone tethered via bluetooth) and if there's 5 seconds of network issues, pacman complained, quit and I had to restart update again. One of the reasons I switched away from garuda.
I switched to Linux for work since most of my work is browser-based so nothing to worry about. I like it it is far superior than windows, very snappy, and shuts down in seconds. It's 100% FREE!!!!
I've been developing a python program for school on Linux. Trying to make the same code run on windows was a pain in my butt, I've never experienced bugs in the interpreter until now.
The best area? Who owns YOUR PC? With Windows, a quick Google search will net you lots of pages of people talking about that very topic with what Windows does behind the scenes that most people don't know about. With Linux, there is no discussion. You own your own PC with Linux. Anything and everything it does is opened up for you see what is going on with your computer and it obeys your commands without changes settings on you behind your back.
I want to agree with you, I really do. The thing is, after using exclusively Linux for work for a year, I finally did the switch on my personal laptop. Everything is plain better, or so it seems because I can't use it. My laptop has a screen on the smaller side, but it's 1080p, and there's no fractional scaling option available, at least on the distro I ended up choosing (Fedora). Such a small missing feature but it makes it unusable for visual impaired folks or people with small screens
I mean every operating system has it’s own learning curve. Plus if you make a point of using OS independent applications swapping between operating systems isn’t so difficult when you can use some of the same applications across the board. Like Firefox, VLC, FileZilla.. for example.
To your point with SteamOS and handheld computers: Many are making both Windows and SteamOS versions now, such as Ayaneo. However I have to say that SteamOS makes me want to ditch Windows 11 some days on my OnexPlayer since it's pretty slick.
Brilliant video but I will like to request a video about control center apps in Linux. Something that controls the fan speeds, the rgb lighting on keyboard and rgb logos . Cheers
10:33 I'm very new to Linux, so I may not know what I'm talking about, but I thought the general consensus was that Linux WAS more secure (to at least some extent). Not in regards to less frequent attacks (due to the smaller user base), but due to how it was actually coded/developed. Is that not the case?
There's no special coding. technically speaking since anybody could make a security audit, the software should be more secure, but realistically no one actually makes such audits.
@@JanVerny I read something about how you have to actively execute a virus on your computer on Linux or something, as to where on Windows you can just open a folder or file or photo or something. Not that I'm in any position to suggest you're wrong, but are you saying viruses have an equally easy time regardless of which environment they're in?
@@cameronmoore136 what you are talking about is basic permission/access rights management. Both systems have had these features since their conception. But you are right that in Linux the user by default cannot execute arbitrary code from a file. At least in theory this makes for more secure environment, that is until the user inputs a copy pasted text into their commandline. I know of many reasons Linux could be considered more secure, none if it is particulary down to the linux architecture.
I beg to differ. I believe that the following is a public message service : If you're alone, if you don't have a geek brother, Linux is ONLY for the high IQ, technical oriented, resilient and PATIENT people. Linux has a steep learning curve. If you survive the first year, GNU/linux becomes a pleasure. I have heard many people, from all genders, say that they have tried linux, but were forced to give up and go back after a short time. It was a bit the same for me. I tried linux as a dual boot with windows. This is hell, because it forces you to transition cold turkey : when you need a windows program, you have to reboot, with fast booting disabled, it's incredibly long. Second, the 1st program I tried to install on Ubuntu was Azureus. It was not in the software center. I was excited, my first linux install. I was a geek with correct IQ, and I could even write code. Well, I have to confess that the difficulty level was too hard for me. I discovered Azureus is a Java program. Wait. I didn't even know about the software center. Nobody had told me... (2015). (I had no smartphone, I guess going to the software center is more a reflex for everyone nowadays). Anyway, I had to install a Java environment on Ubuntu. I had to choose the version of Java. And each time I would fix a problem, there would be a new one. A new bug. Cryptic message that I'd copy to Google. Opening dozens of tracks of resolution to choose from. I finally did it, but it took so long... My point is that it is *counter-productive* to say linux is just amazing, completely easy, "even easier than windows!!", that it's lighter in size... "you don't need more than 16 GB !!". Let's stop on this last common saying. I had created a 16GB partition for Linux, plus 4GB swap. Quickly, I ran into unsolvable disk space problems. If I could reduce my dual boot windows parititions, I could extend them for linux, right? No. I did not have free space on the right of my linux partition. So I was stuck. I thought I had been stupid, or that I had used bad sources of information telling me to choose 16GB total. That was wrong. **Three** years later I did a coding bootcamp. Most people were younger than me. I ran into countless high IQ people who almost had to quit the bootcamp because after 5 weeks, their disk space problems had become unsolvable (even with the help of pros inside the boot camp). They had read "you just need 16GB !!!" or even "just 12GB!!". So please find a balance. Please consider the idea that when you tell newbies that Linux is hard, reserved for the elite, it will attract the right people, and they won't feel dumb when they run into problems. They will find the challenge they expected and enjoy it, instead of feeling betrayed and stupid. If you tone down the "it's crazy how Linux takes EIGHT times less disk space than windows, you only need 15 GB !!" then there won't be whole generations of youth who will hate linux because it forced them to quit a bootcamp because of unsolvable disk space issues. Linux is hard. It's more complex than Windows. It's not a bad thing or a good thing, it's a truth. Let's share it ! Another thing that older people should consider is that switching to linux is not easier today for the young ("you can google every problem now!!", "All distros have improved now!!"), it's harder, because Windows has focused ever more on security, so now people who try to switch to linux come with bitlocker external drives that they want to share with linux, bitlocker internal drives protected by TPM that they need to share over samba, etc. Makes the switch so much harder than it was already. So if this comment is not subtly banned, and if you're someone considering trying linux, I recommend to not dual boot, just install linux on a cheap laptop. Choose large disk space. Choose ubuntu. Use secure boot. Prepare for 12 difficult months, but if you're patient enough, linux can become a pleasure, so much so that to switch back to windows is not an option anymore.
In regards to your privacy and security comments, I think it's important to point out that one of the biggest reasons Linux desktops are less vulnerable is simply because it represents a much smaller target demographic than Windows or Mac. Ultimately, the time a hacker could spend building Linux malware would be better spent building malware for Windows or Mac because it's much more likely to have a larger impact.
I recommend SCOOP (is like winget or chocolate) but it has versioning, is not using installers, is more like a linux packet manager overall, better for sysadmin, and I use winget for the rest
I don't care which one is better I just choose the one that works for me. Few problems with Linux are email client with Microsoft exchange and MFA. Windows Mail app is just the best I think. Microsoft Teams lacks some features on Linux, such as background blur. Forget running ANSYS. Linux has certainly changed the way people think how a computer should be. FOSS also contributes to gaining industry grade knowledge by having access to the source code. You can learn how to build an OS, which wasn't possible without FOSS.
@Danny Michelle I don't use it because I prefer Thunderbird but the mail app is actually pretty solid. I would put money you've never used it if you are even going so far to compare it to gmail, which google has made some really stupid changes over the years. I mean, gmail doesn't even let you sort columns anymore. That's a basic functionality of every program. I program on Linux and surf the web. I do my heavy art and game design on Windows. Use the right tool for the job.
I'd like to add Memory Management. On any big (or small) download, Windows will not release Standby Memory. With a big download, I have to constantly use RAMMAP to force Windows to release Standby Memory. With any Linux OS (or Mac OS), memory is managed a lot better. Thus, Linux OSes and Mac OS need less RAM to run.
Make sure your Python applications stay relevant for longer: bit.ly/3CyfKnL
Your Video gives me Nerdgasms! Eh Linux! Yes Linux!!! Also thank you for telling me about Tuxedo I needed a Linux Laptop!
Where is that Software Repositories settings window in ElementaryOS?
My scripts are fine, thanks for the concern tho
maybe NOT in command Line Since i'm a Linux ULTRA NooooooB 🤣🙃, I'm going let @Nico van Dyk do a Great job Explaining PS; ""PowerShell is actually the shell for .Net *which makes it orders of magnitude more capable than Bash.* You can access all .Net libraries and objects NATIVELY within PowerShell. So? Well, these libraries and objects are the exact same libraries/objects you can use in any .Net language like C#, Python, Ruby and yes, even C++. *Try and Do that in Bash…* And no, that is not compiling a piece of code and the executing it; *it is literally instantiating* any .Net object from within PowerShell and interacting with it THROUGH A COMMAND LINE. The fact of using PowerShell as a OS command line (Like Bash/Command prompt) is kind of a side consequence of all OS commands being API calls. That is why everything in PowerShell is objects and the pipeline deals with objects ( _Not merely one-dimensional strings as is the case with bash_ )""
GreeTs and G0D✝blessUall
@@benygh911 for non developer users, is it as easy to use as bash/zsh? I only do simple scripts to automate what I'd have to type
I love when people tell me that Linux is hard for an "older" persons to learn and use. I've been using versions of Mint for the past 6 year or so and now I'm 70. I also like setting up Raspberry Pi's for my "older" friends that can't really afford a desktop.
Don't to forget to remind the Youngsters that our generation started software development , the PC industry and Solid state Electronics to name a few .
Huge respect for you sir ❣️
Seen a UA-camr who's about 200 years old and using Linux with a pretty solid understanding of scripting. I was surprised.
The most underrated part of your channel is the chapter/section inclusion. Never fails and is so helpful to skip or rewind a part of a video. Thanks Nick
Luckily most youtubers use them nowadays
Good for skipping the sponsor.
@@wumwum42 many don't unfortunately
Mascot is number 1 reason
Tux might be a round little bastard, but he's cute!
Yes
@@TheLinuxEXP yes
@@TheLinuxEXP the Gnu is cute too
@@TheLinuxEXP Buffed Tux
You forgot the biggest area where linux is better. It takes me a few minutes to update my linux box and really means all the software that is installed through it, not just the operating system. And, so long as it's not a kernal update often I do not need to reboot. Windows generally takes quite a bit longer to install a cumulative package update and needs to reboot to update anything operating system related. And then the reboot and install takes quite a lot of time! I spend a lot less time keeping my system up to date in linux than windows.
True, there's that as well!
So true. And as a bonus, you don't have to reboot to reboot!
this. In an arch based distro like endeavourOS, I can literally just start an entire operating system update, keep using my computer, and even if I completely update core packages, restarting is still pretty optional, I can just restart whenever I want, and even with full disk encryption and minimal hardware acceleration, it still boots in under a minute, and I can get everything open and running within a minute and a half. My internet connects instantly even over wifi, it doesnt take 5 seconds before actually registering a hardline, my VPN connects instantly, my browsers restore perfectly, etc. The only thing I genuinely missed from windows was task manager's ability to kill programs on demand without letting them shut down (particularly useful for if I want to be able to restore my browser session but don't want to keep my browser open) but then I found KSysGuard which does exactly that, so after quickly adding a shortcut so that Ctrl-Shift-Esc opens it like the command opens task manager in windows, it's just a flat better experience.
I just cannot understand the obsession with stuff around updates. Just about yesterday I spent an hour updating my raspbian install (400 packages). I also had to lookup guide on how to do that, as dist-upgrade won't actually pull new packages. I also always have to reboot my linux machines if I actually want the updates to do something. So I wouldn't really say there's much difference. Windows does auto update if outside active hours, which I can understand may be uncomfortable for a rendering machine, but in general for a normal user who turns off their computer every day isn't much of a problem.
@@JanVerny yeah but people argue arch is more stable than windows, while keeping a straight face 😑
I consider myself a simple Linux user nowadays. If you don't tinker with it, then there is no troubleshooting that needs to be done. My dad who doesn't understand much about computers has been using Fedora for years now and never run into any issues.
I moved my mum to Fedora a few years back, the only real problem shes having is migrating away from Paintshop Pro 7, which inherently is glitchy due to being very old software running under WINE.
"no troubleshooting required"
Yeah, you just wait for nvidia to completely brick the GUI for you, leaving you stranded in TTY until you do said troubleshooting
@@TheExileFox amd however doesnt have that problem but being an nvidia user i know your pain well, or accidently installing drivers for the wrong kernal and then your system cant boot
@@alexatkin kinda same here, my dad installed Fedora on my mom's very very old laptop and it's just working for her
I'm on this opinion. Linux is now very usable for normal users (unless you have a CPU thread always at 100% that doesn't happen on windows, I'm able to troubleshoot that but how are you going to expect a normal user to fix this?), very usable for professional users, BUT for the people inbetween them (no man's land) like me? It's very frustrating.
Before I watch this I'm calling it now; printing will be on here. Printing on Linux has always been plug and play for me and completely hassle free compared to Windows.
Edit: Damn printing wasn't included.
It's not, but it should have been!
printing is one thing that I find odd that linux actually does better but I'm not complaining at all lol
@@TheLinuxEXP A part 2 may be?
@@dylon4906 Most likely because it uses cups, which is also used in MacOs (not sure if it still is used)
Unfortunately I had a different experience. My HP printer works really poorly with Arch. Not saying that is the open source community's fault. Never buying a HP printer again.
It took me four hours yesterday to figure out that Microsoft left a deprecated registry entry in the registry which prevented Microsoft edge from loading. The joys of IT. In the same four hours i could have installed Linux on at least six machines and edge would have run on all of them...
Honestly, I like edge. I know it's horrible for privacy, but it runs really well and some of the unique features in it are solid. If I ever decide to fully migrate to Linux again, I might still use edge.
Maybe. I do love Mozilla and think Firefox is crucial to an open and accessible web.
Don't you love the "dead fish" problem in windows registry? (Dead fish = if I fill your car with dead fish and then you take it out; it will still smell like dead fish. This is like most windows installers leaving behind crap when uninstalling)
Krashes.
Then grub.
Then glibc.
Then dependencies.
@@JohnEusebioToronto same here, I run Fedora and still use Edge due to it's features, the vertical tabs are just great, you can remove titlebar with them since the tabs are on the left now, and you can make them collapsible into a thin bar!
My second choice would be Firefox yeah, because it's the second browser which has vertical tabs but they're kinda less convenient as they're a separate tree style tabs extension and can't be collapsed
@@JohnEusebioToronto What is the unique features as I want to give it a try thanks in advance
Best thing about Linux? It's not malware masquerading as an OS.
You don't really "pirate" Windows. Microsoft really does let you install for free, at the cost of a watermark and limited visual customization options. Win11 is worse in this respect, since apparently there's some sort of non-allowance regarding sound switching in its free version, so that's why I personally want to move to Linux.
Let me know if you have any questions in switching to linux! I'm always down to help!
Windows was a superb OS. And then, Win 8 happened and it started to slowly go downhill with Win 10 and 11.
So, in Jan 2020, I switched to Linux since MS pulled the plug on Win 7 which also means motherboard and chipset makers won't maker drivers for Win 7.
I moved my gaming to Linux.
I moved my mini open source projects to Linux (Thank you Qt Creator).
Soon, I am going to contribute to some open source projects just to give a big finger to MS and their tactics.
I've only been using Linux for the better part of a year, so if you have any questions and want a beginner's perspective I'll be glad to help
@@greatcanadianmoose3965 can a beginner install LFS? If so in the handbook it shows that its expected that you don't turn it off until completed, if I shut it down and turn it on the next day what should I do
you're a noob if you don't know how to activate original windows for free
I agree with all the 7 points. I think Steam chose Linux because when MS tried to kill them, They had no choice but to invest in alternate OS and by choosing Linux they saved millions in R&D; It's great that they contributed back via Proton.
Yes, I really enjoy using package managers. Heck, I love the fact that after installing the OS, I can install almost all the necessary software with one command and just as easily update everything. Managing installed software on Windows is a nightmare. Each piece of software must have its own installer, its own uninstaller, and its own update method. Many programs use their own update services for this. As a result, we have a dozen constantly working services for updating various programs - this is just nonsense!
However, the uniform package format is a strength of Windows. I don't care what edition of Windows I'm using, I just download the exe and everything works. Most often it works without the Internet, which is also sometimes useful. It is also easier to transfer an installed application from one computer to another in Windows, since all of its files are usually located in the same folder. The closest thing I know that solves similar problems is AppImage.
I wouldn't care that any application has it's own installer and uninstaller if it just worked. However some are painfully slow and many uninstallers don't remove everything.
About the internet stuff: yes, i noticed that, in Windows you can usually just install it from the .exe file even if you are offline (except games), but even Linux software that is ported for Windows often requires to download additional stuff. today they could just pack more stuff into the packages (or all of it), hard disks have Terabytes now and if you have internet, it usually is fast and unlimited, so I think the way Linux handles this is kind of outdated. there is no need anymore to keep packages small.
When I bought my Dell Precision laptop last year, I didn't even need for it to come with a disk since I was going to put in my own. But since I had to choose a disk and an operating system, I chose the smallest disk with Ubuntu since the same disk with Windows 10 cost about 100USD more. lol
License was 150 for a Xeon CPU.
About security - Linux is also more secure because you stick to the repos instead of installing apps from random websites, and fewer vulnerabilities are found in the kernel compared to Windows.
The user-facing stuff (x11, etc) has been less secure compared to recent versions of Windows, but this is also changing with the advent of Flatpak and Wayland.
there's no single os that suits everyone. theres so much nuance to things, i run several linux distros on different base implementations like arch or debian as example, i run some windows ones too, offline win7 or even xp machines, some are virtualized, some run native, it all depends on my usecase and what solution fits best for it.
Exactly! People need options for every device to make sure they fit their workload as well as they can
@@TheLinuxEXP Not sure if you've done this before but are you up for challenge?
Dare to make a windows experiment and find 7 areas where windows is better than linux?
Also glad you reassured you're not a libre fanatic who can't see past linux.
In the same boat, deciding between arch or fedora or suse or any ubuntu/ubuntu based distros.
I know these are vastly different distros but I want to weigh in all options.
Main criteria are virtualization, security, sw updates.
Usecase: software engineering, gaming, network/IT work, etc.
@@therealb888 Gaming has to be number one on Windows. linux is getting there but i don't think it will ever compare to windows
@@krazymeanie it's unlikely, but it might happen, because especially the lower end handheld consoles are so much faster with Linux than with windows (steam deck for example)
Another pro for Linux - its virtual desktops are unmatched, especially on GNOME. It is so fluid there to adapt your workspace to whatever you need to do.
Love the super key effect, so useful and pretty at the same time
Softpedia is actually a decent site in my experience, like CNET, but yeah you're not wrong about the hunting around the internet for EXEs. The best thing for me when I first tried Linux was getting away from all the dodgy freeware and shareware
why not use winget or choco for package manager on windows
@@nathsabari97 not everything is on those. I had to run chocolatey AND scoop to get all my stuff via package managers. Usually it’s all in one spot on Linux
So may of these sites have dodgy ads that look like a big green download button. Plenty of scope to screw it up. I gave my woman a fresh laptop but I put Mint on it. She complains that the spreadsheet is not Excel and she complains when ever she can. Usually the problem is not related to Linux. I forget which program she needed and was hunting for it using Google. I directed her to look in the Software Manager and a few minutes later she was happily using the program she had selected. When people don't realise how easy it can be on Linux they are apt to screw it up, like Linus Tech Tips did.
@@wayland7150 Nicely stated - totally true.
@@nathsabari97 I probably would, only I don't use Windows enough to warrant bothering to set it up. I basically only use Windows in test VMs, since the last 2 years, I think.
I use both Windows and Linux and I love both in particular aspects. But I can't disagree with a single word of this video, it covers both the upside and downsides of Linux, that too in a practical and unique way. Very easy and fun to watch & understand. Love your video quality as always.
Another Linux pros : reducing e-waste and save you on hardware. I still remember my teenager years using Crunchbang (RIP) on a used shitty Intel Atom netbook, because new and shiny laptop are expensive in a third world country. Things are better now for me economically but I still reminisce those day.
True!
This is a genuine reason, and indeed should have been number 1.
The actually biggest thing about linux vs windows: it just WORKS! It won't rot, you can have a single linux installation going on for like 10 years without reinstalling and it will still perform just as good as it did back then, unlike how in windows you need to reinstall every several months because things start to actually destroy themselves. Windows 11 is better at it than 10 though, but still after just 3 months some parts of windows just stopped working whatsoever.
This is a very crucial thing for an OS, I really really don't want my machine to stop working randomly or perform very poorly with time.
Even though I'm a game developer, I choose linux because unity is available for it and is working good enough.
It just works.....unless you've a Nvidia graphics card. Or have a HP Multifunction Printer Scanner and would like to get the scanner working at which point even though HPLIP installs it you have to go hunting for an obscure plugin mentioned in one single post in a HP support forum. As for a single Linux installation going on for 10 years without re-installing the Mars Express probe would like a word. It's functioned for 19 years on a Windows 98 install.
@@conorturton I have nvidia and hp printer scanner lol
In Windows you must use the command line for terminal or powershell to do a lot of power user thanks the same can be said about Linux. I really find the terminal in the null issue at this point because, honestly most desktop distributions (Ubuntu based, fedora) generally has a gui available for most day-to-day tasks and settings
First, you talk about power users and then claim that terminal is a non issue cause general day to day tasks have ui
sure day to day tasks have ui but not for power users
oh and one more thing about the terminal, on Linux, the terminals are more refined
At some point you will need to use the shell in linux - but most times you can google and find a solution thats valid and copy it into your shell...
I just discovered LXLE for my old laptop and I really love it! My old laptop is now very usable. 😊
You mean lxde ?
@@ioneocla6577 lxle is a bit different to lxde even tho it sounds very simalir
personally i didnt like it and prefer lxde since the way it functions dosent make to much sense and kinda makes things harder for me
You are the one that made me switch to linux and it's just better.
I love the customizability of linux and also the ease of software install.
And of course if I don't like a distro or desktop environment I can just try out another one.
And I think everyone loves the command line:)
As far as backwards compatibility and old systems go: I recently found a Notebook buried in my closet back from around 2010. It was running Windows XP, has 1GB of DDR2 and has an i386 architecture with an Atom N280, made in 2009.
I was able to install FreeBSD and it works like a charm for watching movies on it.
Now try installing Win 10 on it, let alone 7.
I’d rather run XP
@@jonnywishbone4805 So for web browsing you want to install a 20 year old operating system that has lost all support 8 years ago?
I mean, you do you, but you sure as hell don't make it difficult for attackers to gain access to your computer.
@@Finkelfunk overhyped threat- I run several XP machines with no issue
@@jonnywishbone4805 Yeah, the entire fucking point is that you don't realize there is an issue with them LMFAO
Needless to say "running an XP machine" and "using an XP machine to surf the web" are two entirely different things.
But what the fuck do I know about Cybersecurity, I literally only set up the governments IT structure for a living so who cares haha
@@Finkelfunk X to doubt
Fixing bugs quickly in open source projects is a bit of a mixed bag - the flatpack variant of Syncthing GTK has an ongoing icon issue, which means I have an invisible icon on my Steam Deck that will probably be around for a while. Honestly - how quickly bugs get fixed seems to depend more on the passion of the developer(s), rather than the philosophy behind whatever EULA they choose.
Yes, there are bugs in open source project that exist for years literally. There might be a lot of devs ready to fix bugs, but not many gonna take a responsibility over something critical.
While I'm in my Master's program in Data Analytics, I've been using Windows to ensure the best compatibility. I use WSL2 to run my Python scripts. Once I'm finished with my schooling, I plan to make a complete transition to Linux.
Could just be because I've worked with it more for my job, but IMO one of things MS really does deserve credit for on the CLI front is Powershell. The guy who built it was brought onto the project because MS *finally* realized what few tools they had for scripting and automation were poorly implemented at best and usually a PITA to work with. Originally his intent was to leverage a bash shell like cygwin, but for whatever reason it wasn't best suited for the project with its POSIX roots.
So starting from scratch he and his team made a shell intending to take the best aspects of bash and evolve it to the next level by making its inputs/outputs object oriented instead of text-based (as is still the case with bash today). The power of having any command automatically accept the output from another command over the pipeline so long as its inputs match the property type really can't be understated. Generally you really don't want to run "Get-Process | Stop-Process" on anyone's live system (if you're lucky the command will kill the Powershell instance before hitting a critical process which bluescreens the system) , but the fact that it works makes it an incredibly powerful tool.
To say nothing of the fact that Powershell isn't just an updated CLI on the Windows desktop, but has been leveraged as the official and professional way to administrate practically EVERY enterprise product Microsoft supports. If you learn the Verb-Noun syntax for how to manipulate your local files, or manage processes, or any number of mundane tasks on your local machine, you can translate that knowledge directly toward Active Directory, Azure, Exchange, and numerous other system administrations. They've gone all-in on this command line to the point where the install for Windows Server does not default to the GUI. You can choose to install the Desktop Experience, but the Core Server install is command-line only as Powershell.
Linux has the "Edge"
Insert Microsoft Edge joke
....wait, it's on Linux too!
That's the first thing I thought. 🤣
Hahah I can't believe I missed that!
I dual boot windows and Linux mint. I’ve recently got trackpad gestures working on Linux mint. The main thing stopping me from using it as my main os is that the sound sounds worse than on windows. At least it does on my speakers, haven’t tried it with headphones or AirPods yet.
Linux is Lighter
Linux is Free
Linux is Open-Source
Linux gives me different distros
Linux is Community-Based
Linux is King 👑!
Windows can be a bigger time sink than Linux at times. Recently on my loaned work laptop, I've had an issue where Active Directory's search feature crashed the UI app, I must've lost a work day's worth of time these past 2 weeks trying to fix it. What seems to have fixed it after everything else failed was to grab an exe from Intel's website to update the iGPU driver. Oh did I mention the Display section of the Settings app started doing the same, magically fixed itself and broke again at the exact same time and that's how I managed to fix it? Yeah, Windows is definitely easier to troubleshoot. Now I gotta make sure it doesn't "update" back to the old version.
This is by far one of the best videos made, explaining the strong sides of Linux - I appreciate the effort Nick made in order to make this fantastic video, without a doubt this took a long time to make. I love how deeply honest the review is. All of this is 100% the reason I'm running Linux as my primary OS.
100% agree with "Software Management", it's the biggest reason I continued using linux, because going back to long, forced, windows updates would suck
In My Opinion The Steam Deck And SteamOS Is The Thing Tha Will Get Linux In To The Mainstream.
The Biggest Problem So Far Is That The Normies Will Always Prefer A Simple "Plug And Play" Experience And SteamOS Is Going In A Direction That Soon The Normies Won't Be Able To Tell The Difference Were It Not For The Different Icons.
I'm going to challenge the point about Linux package management. While it is ostensibly a better user experience, it puts distro maintainers in between app developers and users. As a result, distro maintainers--not app developers--control when you get app updates. In some cases, like for servers, this can be a good thing, but for user-land software, it leads to undesirable fragmentation (think Android update rollouts vs. iOS update rollouts).
Rolling-release distros mitigate this (albeit at the expense of stability), but universal packaging formats like Flatpaks, Snaps and AppImages are likely the long-term solution. However, not all apps are available in these formats, and those that are may have been packaged by an unknown third-party instead of the developer. With Windows and Mac, when a new version of an app is released, users typically can get it immediately. And generally speaking, they can get this new app version independently of any OS updates that they may not want.
Again, I know Flatpak et. al. are solutions, and some distros are defaulting to these as their official or preferred app packaging solutions. But the need for these solutions shows that traditional Linux package management isn't always an advantage.
I'm really curious of Linux, but i'm an absolute Windows user, since i was a child.
But i really enjoy watching your channel and DioLinux's... And I LOVE the customization part in Linux, and the freedom you have to work the way you want.
I've distro hopped quite a bit hahah, but i'm a graphic designer as well and i need the Adobe Software. (And i'm prone to use Gimp and Inkscape, but i need some of Adobe specific features)
So i really WANT to use it (Linux, as my main OS), but i kind of can't without rebooting every time, is there a solution for this?
You could use any Linux desktop & run virtualized Adobe apps that open transparently (they are running inside the Windows VM but graphically mapped to your Linux desktop compositor ) project is called Winapps. Nick even made a video about it:
ua-cam.com/video/fzzf2QnyPgY/v-deo.html
If you give the VM control over PCI to a GPU & enough CPU cores on the host you could even run Winblow$ exclusive AAA titles & edit video from that VM. Like it was just another Application / Workspace inside your Linux OS. Tried & tested under KDE & GNOME X11
The beginning of this video is hilarious! Had to thumbs up just because of that alone. Don't care. You are very likable.
1. Love EXE files. Way better in my opinion than missing repository files because it's not ARCH or dependency issues. OEM versions > Retail versions of Windows.
2. I spend a lot of time fixing Linux problems than Windows - however, at work, I spend all of my time fixing Microsoft problems such as Office 365 and Azure over anything else.
3. I still have about four bugs reported in Linux apps that still have not been fixed today. Only a few people reported it but it still exists as a problem just not that many people run into it so they never get fixed. With Linux bugs it is a popularity contest meaning the bug has to be popular enough to get attention. I don't blame them but can be frustrating sometimes.
You miss the point of WSL... it wasn't to benefit Windows at all, it was getting people used to the idea Linux is just some app you run in Windows, so when future hardware is locked down to only allow Windows to run, they can point and say "see you can still run Linux as an app"
He doesn't know what he is talking about. Nor do you.
IT Departments need a way of running Linux native apps while being able to administer Linux boxes cheaply because developers need things like Redis and other enterprise server software that is Unix/Linux only and the easiest way to do that is WSL or Docker.
Even people that know how to admin Linux server have admitted to me they hate using Linux on the desktop because a lot of stuff just doesn't work or they can't figure out to get it working. Many of them move to Macs as at least it is a Unix OS.
@@dave7244 Doesn't sound like anyone I'd want working for me... can't figure it out lol. You are talking about why people use it though, not why MS made it. If you think MS had no ulterior motives... you don't know MS.
@@AyaWetts MS has large business partners that run Linux stacks on their server and in Azure. Linux is more difficult to administer compared to Windows internally, businesses can do a lot of this through Azure and related services. Outsourcing infrastructure to cloud services and simplifying admin is a major cost saver for corps.
No ulterior secret motives needed.
I had to retire before switching to Linux. My career was developing production automation and test systems which was 80% software. Most of the API's for the equipment required Windows, so everywhere I worked I had to write software in Windows (Visual Studio) with c/c++/c# and occasionally VB. But, more than that, the companies I worked for were all standardized on Windows, so Linux was never an option. I was always fascinated by Linux, but could never justify using it in my day to day work. At home, all I needed was a Chromebook for accessing online content. Now that I'm retired, I'm spending a lot of time learning Linux and learning to program with c# on VSCode. It's a lot of fun and sometimes challenging. I always hated windows I could spend a day just listing all the reasons, but I would rather spend them working on my LMDE 4 OS.
My biggest criticism for Linux distros as a mainstream or productivity desktop is consistency. Different distro goes their own way in UI/UX, and UI/UX can change drastically from one release to another (once the distro manages decides it’s no longer interested in a desktop manager and wants to adopt a brand new one).
Package Managers in Linux is a big exaggerated. Not every app you can find are available on package managers and plenty you may need to download the source code and build from scratch. Also package manager files can also be risky. In my opinion it can only be alleviated if the distro has an native App Store and vets every single packages uploaded to its App Store.
But if you’re downloading a package file from a 3rd party site, you’re still ending up with the same risk as you do on Windows. In comparison, Windows has their marketplace and Mac has their App Store.
I personally would give up all these need to be bleeding edge, for consistency. Especially consistency with desktop. That is what I don’t mind iOS looking relatively the same release to release, changing just a few things which let me to adjust. A huge change in UI/UX could throw you off and impact productivity and making it difficult to develop “muscle memory” for using the UX.
A commercial release of Linux design to tackle mainstream would need to really consider sticking to a UX/UI design language from release to release and making only small changes -- the compromise is though the UI/UX language may not change from release to release, give power users options to customize their desktop, but hide these or put them away for mainstream users.
There are plenty of desktop environments that never change UI for sake of consistency, XFCE, Cinnamnon, MATE. Basically any standalone window manager.
@@tylerdean980 Not windows desktop manager, default out of the box desktop for Linux Distros. In the earlier days of RedHat, then Fedora, they can’t seem to decide which desktop environment to “IT” from distro to distro, swing between Gnome and KDE. Some installs allow the user to pick one. This is all fine and all, but it’s not going to work for the mainstream.
Recently, some distro has tried to put some consistency, ElementaryOS is one nicer ones I tried. But it’s too young and doesn’t provide everything I would want for a mainstream desktop.
As much as some power-users hate Windows and MacOS, they each use 10+ years of consistency where some of us can blind-folded walk some else through Windows navigation over the phone. It’s a chore to walk a mainstream person through Linux over the phone without screen share. There’s too many Linux distro out there, each differing from each other a little to a lot. It’s hard to settle on any one to become a mainstream O/S.
I think a commercial company (maybe Valve/Steam OS could be it), would need to adopt Linux and create a commercial Linux and put a team behind UX/UI engineering and Experience engineering to make it work while working to get wide adoption from commercial developers, like what Apple did with FreeBSD and making Darwin and macOS.
@@gene081976 The UI only changes if you choose a distro that changes things for you. Like Ubuntu going back and forth between GNOME and Unity. But Linux Mint XFCE has looked basically the same since its conception. Some distros prioritize stability and marginal improvements, and other's don't. As for Windows, the UI changes heavily from one version to the next. You have to re learn everything, because they move settings around. But MATE and basically every standalone window manager look the same since forever. Many like IceWM and Openbox have been in development for decades and look basically the same as they did back then. You can pick your poison on Linux and BSD. And, there are already companies that make desktop Linux distros, like opensuse and Ubuntu, or Pop_OS!.
@@tylerdean980 This is the double-edge sword for Linux, too many distro’s too many options and choices. It confuses mainstream users and in my opinion potentially causes too-many-options-paralysis. It becomes an O/S for non-maintreamers who enjoys having all these options to pick from. I understand your statement about standalone Desktops, I’ve used Linux since Slackware and RedHat 1.0, but I guess my point wasn’t clear that I am focusing on why Linux and these distros can’t become a MAINSTREAM OS/Desktop. An advanced Linux user CAN install, setup, tune, and configure their desktop manager and CAN make it look consistent from upgrade to upgrade. A Mainstream user probably CANNOT.
And I agree, Windows did change from MAJOR release to MAJOR release. But they typically stick with that release for almost a decade. The changes are visual for most part but when you actually dig in and use it, it’s not that drastic. Many elements are the same. Regedit looks the same, Computer manager looks the same, group editor looks the same. The taskbar visual have change, but functionality is basically the same from Windows 95 through Windows 10. Windows 11 was the first that changed a bit by moving things around. It’s actually quite minor after using it.
IMHO again, I think for any one distro to become a mainstream player, they need a dedicated UI/UX team to establish a competitive design language and stick with it core philosophy while polishing it and updating it without drastically changing it. It has to be an evolution in each update, not a revolution. And give the option to power-users to change their desktop manager and do whatever they want, while also giving an easy way to restore factory-desktop.
Linux will always be my go to OS for servers, appliances, backend things… just not my client-endpoint desktop of choice. For that, I [currently] choose MacOS.
@@tylerdean980 That's one thing I do appreciate about Linux. If you had say a distro of Fedora installed that, at the time of installation used Cinnamon as it's main DE, and suddenly on the newest update they switched it to GNOME, Linux allows you to simply switch right back over to Cinnamon again. And even better, you get to change the DE _without_ losing all of the new kernel and distro updates that came with that DE change, _and_ you can now continue to update _your_ version of Cinnamon completely separated from the distro manager you chose - you can even use _someone else's version from a totally different distro_ if you so choose. If you loved how Windows 8 looked (some actually liked the fullscreen Start menu) and after updating to Windows 10 found it was now gone, the _only_ way to switch it back is to literally uninstall Windows 10 _manually_ and go through a _manual install_ of a fresh copy of Windows 8. And you lose _all_ of the updates to the base kernel, the DE, the security updates, software updates and potentially lose compatibility between your software and the downgraded OS, nevermind the loss of future security and DE/OS updates when Microsoft decides _for you_ that they're no longer supporting that version.
It's actually one of my biggest pet peeves of Windows. The fact you used to be able to make _your_ desktop environment look the way _you wanted it_ (yay for XP!) - now we're stuck with whatever Microsoft _thinks_ "looks good" whether we like it or not. With no way to get a lot of those customization options back again. At least, not without risking 3rd party software and having to trust that they don't include anything dodgy hidden away or something that will break the OS. If I wanted to be _told_ how my desktop environment should look - and have it always identical to everyone else's, I would have gone with a Mac (I still don't understand why Mac users seem so happy to have absolutely no control over what their DE looks like with the exception of just the wallpaper). Both Microsoft and Apple have taken the "personal" out of "personal computer". They're not PCs any more unless they're using Linux. And this comes from a Windows user since Win '95 who isn't using Linux.
My favorite part of linux is that I can type "sudo pacman -Syu" and within a couple minutes my entire system will be fully updated, and will usually not need a reboot
Also: Ability to be managed remotely. Because everything can be done on the command-line, you don't need a whole remote desktop and it's feasible to manage a remote Linux machine over a pretty low-bandwidth link.
openssh-server can actually installed under PSH by now and allows you doing whatever works over the term with Windows when sshing into the machine.
Including 'chocolate' or 'winget'
@@MegaManNeo Sure, fixing Windows' deficiencies by porting UNIX tools to it is a long-established tradition.
@@dfs-comedy you don’t need UNIX tools. Been provisioning, installing software and updating dozens of servers with power shell for the last 10 years.
@@MiningForPies You don't but if you dunno the PSH syntax yet it is a nice bridge.
@@MegaManNeo indeed. My point was more about native support for terminal emulation and command line control has been in windows for decades.
Indeed there are now tonnes of open source modules that make managing things like SQL server a dream over a remote terminal.
Man, this is the kind of video that hurts my feelings as a Windows user. Linux is amazing for a lot of things, but as you say about Windows customization: It's not for everyone (yet)
1. You still need to activate those package managers to be able to use their benefits. You don't have Flatpak right away on most Linux distros for instances. You need to do a bit of thinkering and research before using it. And yes, in Linux you still can install .deb packages and others using a command line in some cases (compared to just downloading them and install them with a click, which not all distros are able to do stock)
2. You don't have to pay for Windows at all if you already had Windows 7, 8, 8.1 or 10 before. Sometimes by using the Microsoft Account everybody hates, you get Windows activated with a "digital license". Learning about Windows? The number 1 operating system that most people in the world use (even Linux users because sometimes it needs to be done)? That's kinda unfair.
3. Open source. We're getting there eventually
4. Linux is definitely more resource friendly than Windows... Until you use a laptop with batteries. This has been improving on Linux but I can't understand how in a lightweight distro like Lubuntu drains the battery almost the same way as Windows 11 does. Again, this is improving.
5. Privacy. I'm not so sure about this one. You can argue that the open source nature of a distro makes it way more private since you can see the code changes and the community will get really mad about untold yet found telemetry data collection. The thing is, I as an user can't tell for instance that the one toggle you use to turn off the telemetry on some distros it's actually doing so. We take it for granted (exactly like most people do on Windows when not reading the terms and privacy stuff). It's a tough topic because you as a common user don't know for certain that's being respected, you just assume.
6. Customization (or dare I say, the Do-It-Yourself-ness) on Linux. Sure, you can modify whatever you want on Linux the way you want, but that's not too great for someone that's starting on the system. There's a reason why Windows always looked the same (except for Windows 8, even though it was just in the start menu and it was "fixed" by putting the button back) and it's familiarity. It's fine you have a lot of options in Linux that you can adjust the way you like, but it can be so overwhelming for a regular using starting on the platform. Look Ubuntu or PopOS. Those two are trying to make a system that is easy to understand for everyone and still can be modified a lot, and then the "Linuxeros" (hardcore Linux users) say they're "ruining Linux by making it user friendly". WHAT?
7. The command line. Agree, Linux is better here. Windows comes from MS-DOS, way before the GUI as well. Right now, it's all about it but many solutions can be done on the command prompt as well as in the graphical user interface. And now, we have Linux sauce all over the new Terminal/PowerShell. This Linux vs Windows intensity is useless when the current Microsoft CEO is pushing Linux since he started. And it's working great. Things like WSL, WSA, and many other things come from this.
For me, this idea that "Windows is bad, Linux is better" is dumb and it's getting old already when you consider all the things that can be done on Linux because of Windows and all the million things that Windows users have now because of Linux. Everyone can pick their poison and be happy about it (even if it is a spying poison, or a very nerdy, "look at me, I'm different" one)
"Linux is only free if you don't value your time" my brother in christ my AMD GPU is literally plug and play on linux (even arch!)
So use Linux everyday and fully switched 2 years ago. My biggest reasons for switching were the following: 1) update process, 2) privacy, 3) free as in freedom, ie customization, 4) no bloatware, 5) speed, ie boots faster, opens apps faster, closes faster, just a generally smoother/more responsive environment.
Being honest many apps in Linux are not as polished as their Windows and Mac counterparts, but for my use case they are fine. I have to use Windows at work, but in private i have 1 PC and 2 laptops running Mint and dont see myself ever switching back
I am new to Linux. I use it on my spare laptop.
I am running Kubuntu, and so far I am really happy with it.
It reminds me of the Windows interface that I know, but with the benefits from Linux.
It's a nice place to start IMO.
Absolutely!
It amazes how how KDE isn't more popular as I also found it the cleanest transition from Windows and the easiest to use when switching between the two. Except Dolphin is night/day better than explorer IMO as a file manager.
@@alexatkin I tried Ubuntu first, but GNOME was just not to me liking at all. Then I learned about Kubuntu. Mint is also a distro on my radar, as well as Pop OS. I tried Fedora too and it was okay, but not a favorite for me.
@@alexatkin my favorite from windows people is cinnamon, kde is good but I think it has so many options it gets tiring
@@kendarr Problems I had was no other DE mimicking Windows in all behaviours, there would always be something I tried to do that didn't work how I was used to. Then over time KDE overtook Windows in having functionality Windows did not, 10/11 then started copying some of those features (granted, some may have come to MacOS first, not sure). ;)
But overall I find KDE has the richest feature set and just works how I expect it to.
You forgot the part where I have to Google the name of a package because it’s different depending on what distro you’re on… Or you have to add the company’s third party repository to be able to download it via a package manager… lol but the one command updates are great
Googling is not of an issue, provided that distro provides a wiki page for the packages (Arch have it). Also, most distros have embedded it's package lists into a GUI application, so no need to know the package name.
Yeah, Linux is infinitely better in letting you know what went wrong and helping you trouble shoot. That's why I switched to Linux in the first place, Windows was acting up for no reason one time too many
For me, Linux is better than Windows in so many ways. Even on the "good" versions of Windows, I ran into various problems. I even ran into updates causing problems with Windows 7. Then I disabled updates, and it still updated. Then I found out there was a secret toggle to really disable updates, which did work. Needless to say, that was frustrating. That was just one of my update issues. Another way Linux is way better is during the actual installation. Installing Linux takes me 15-20 minutes. Windows takes forever. But my favorite measure of Linux being better, for me, is that I have my parents on Mint. Of course, I had to get it all set up for them, not that Windows would be any different for a fresh install. With Windows, it was nothing but headaches. My dad is terrible with computers and badgered my with questions. My mom got frustrated with all the annoying Windows nag notifications and other nonsense. Putting them on Mint has their computers running faster, more stable and secure, and I don't have to answer computer questions on a nearly daily basis. Convincing them to ditch Windows worked out so much better than even I imagined it would.
I agree totally with the speed of linux on older machines. I have Pop! Os on an old pc (AMD A4-3420 APU with 8gbs ram) and it runs as smoothly as my gaming rig with a Ryzen 3700x w/32gbs of ram.
Worth noting that machine would run Windows 10 also but if you only had 2GB then Linux would still be good and Windows unusable.
@@wayland7150 That machine had both windows 7 and 10 on it. It ran 10 like it was running through thick mud. Took 5 minutes to boot and be ready for use. With Pop! it's up and ready in 30 seconds. My only Windows pc has a 2500K with 16gb of ram and takes forever to boot Win10.
@@lorduggae Your 16GB PC should boot Windows 10 fast enough as long as it's an SSD. Windows 7 boots fast off a hard drive.
@@wayland7150 The 16gb PC has windows on a SSD, it still takes at least 5 minutes to boot and be usable.
@@lorduggae Oh dear!
I got Linux Mint cinnamon recently on an old PC. How far will the GUI take me? When will I absolutely have to use the terminal for the first time? I have been looking at the terminal a bit but haven't needed to use it much.
I had to use it to compile my C code
Nick is secretly Cr1tikal, wearing white shirt all the time too
On the topic of valuing time, you're right if the time is your own - you will spend time learning regardless. Where that argument falls down is if you're the IT guy at a firm rolling computers out to your staff, for instance. How much time and productivity would you lose while your users get reacquainted? I'd wager quite a lot.
Windows also has hidden updates they don't alert the user about. I know this because it auto-restarts, but GRUB doesn't let it auto boot, so if I use Windows sometimes qhen I go to wake my computer it is in GRUB. Linux never auto-restarts.
I have both on my desktop. Two computers, same model and both running on the same monitor (one at a time). I share my keyboard through a three-way USB which is switchable, with their own mouse on either side. I'm running Windows 11 22H2 Beta on one BMAX M-3 Plus with 1TB SSD and a 1TB HD backup with 32GB RAM. The Linux is Manjaro Testing on the other BMAX has 512GB SSB and 500GB SSD backup with 16GB RAM. The point is both have things that work for different experiences and different Apps.
Windows has one huge attraction to me.
It's a great destination for Windows users. I spend my time helping people who want to use Linux. I gave up trying to help Windows users years ago. They are just two completely different animals. Someone else who thinks Windows is better is a better candidate to help those folks.
If you want to try out several linux distros, how do you go about it? Virtual machines on your Mac or Windows desktop or laptop? What are the minimum system requirements for cpu and RAM?
Or do use DAAS, Desktop As A Service? Spin up a virtual machine at a cloud provider like Amazon, Linode, Hetzner, ... and connect to it with VNC? What are the system requirements here?
Or can you use a Raspberry Pi (version 4 with 8 GB RAM)? I know Ubuntu has a version for it, but do other popular distros have one?
Download the ISO of a Linux distro and put it on a USB drive or a DVD, and boot to it. You can try each one out without making any changes to your system, as long as you don't install it.
You hit the nail on the head with this one, Nick. Keep these coming, using these to show newbs some of the benefits of switching to Linux. This is exactly what we need + that other vid you did recently explaining Proton and overall Gaming on Linux. You rock. Also, Tuxedo ftw!
Maybe, to be fair to these people, he should also show the massive detriments to switching, eh?
@@Diviance Massive?
You forgot to mention 12+ years old bugs affecting various pieces of software that nobody will fix because they are just cosmetic.
I feel you bruh, i have like 10 of the same black shirt too and 3 of the same shoes(i couldn't get more of it :x )
I don't need to think 'this fits with my other clothes' because it fits with everything. Confortable and less time losing
Exactly!
The stupid thing about the Command Prompt / Terminal with Windows is, the command-line interface used to be _so important_ to Microsoft. To the point that the _original_ DOS (which was already showing _massive_ promise with various versions - my first encounter was Acorn Computers version called Acorn-MOS - and was getting pretty advanced in what you could do with it, even ending with the very first early signs of an actual graphical DE) was completely murdered by them through completely evil and dirty, sometimes borderline illegal (or outright illegal) practises, until everyone finally gave in and let their own, crappy, less-advanced version "MS-DOS" take over entirely. And then they went and dumped it anyway ... and now they're trying to bring it back again after realising their mistake.
My favorite DOS was 6. something, I think 6.4.
As software developer I consider Windows hugely inferior to Linux. The difference is productivity and performance. I always bing an example of Linux VM running on Windows host that still managed to build Java project faster than the host system itself... Not mentioning the set of dev tools on Linux that are just available in seconds.
@deadbeef "Sounds like a lie..." - if you like to think so, suit yourself.
As for Visual Studio I agree that it is great IDE for what it does, but how does it support the idea that whole OS platform is better for development?
It seems to me that you are argueing that Windows is the best platform for developing for Windows. I am not gonna argue with that...
And as a desktop user, I consider Linux hugely inferior to Windows.
@@Diviance I guess it really depends on what you are using you desktop for ;-)
@@miroslawturski
Normal desktop stuff. And gaming.
And I really don't think it does.
@@Diviance I get your point. I use Windows myself for some gaming and desktip work. Many applications are just not supported on platforms other than Windows by manufacturer's choice.
Still, when it comes to Java development, Linux always wins. Productivity and performance are just so much better.
Moreover, I have run home server for media streaming and surveillance for many years already. I have never even considered Windows for such purposes.
Not mentioning some home automation projects where Windows is simply non existent.
So, you will definitely find cases for which Windows is practicaly the only choice, but also many others where it is not a choice at all.
I dont think you should say that all distros only collect telemetry anonymized and opt-in because most distros do, for eample chrome os and zorin os collect data in a way you dont want
I switched to Linux, Mint to be exact, and I like it very much. Especially because of performance.
I have it with XFCE desktop environment and even though, I have it for only 6 or 7 days, I already changed it's look to my liking, there's so many options and you can implement them pretty easly, which I like. In Windows, I needed to tinker more, to change it's look, to what I would like and often it was making my system slow. Linux Mint XFCE looks beautiful for me now and there's no performance drop, at all.
I love how small it is. With Windows, without any, installed by me programs, out of 1TB of HDD, I got like 800GB or less, for me. With Linux, I had almost all of my 1TB.
I got no problem with games, except with two of them, but in one of them - Progressbar95, I fixed it's audio problem really easily. And with the second one - Devil May Cry HD Collection, the cutscenes, in form of WMV videos, are rotated by 180 degrees, but it's not affecting gameplay. So yeah, no big problems, especially with performance. My laptop is not so strong anyway, so I am not even playing the kind off new or newest games.
Kind off sucks, that I wasn't able to install Clip Studio Paint, that I bought, before I got to know about it's change in perpetual license. But fortunately Krita works much better on my laptop with Linux, than with Windows.
I love that I can install system updates, whenever I want and the process of update itself is not slowing down my system, unlike Windows. Actually, I switched because latest Windows update, did something that caused Microsoft's OS to work very slow on my laptop and neither disk defragmentation or dick clean up, couldn't fix it. Maybe re-installation of Windows could, but I thought that I much prefer to just switch to Linux, as it would be fourth time, when I needed to re-install Windows on my laptop. And yeah, one time was because of me, as I interrupted the Windows's update, but the rest two, were because updates broke something.
I also like, how easy was to do one small thing. A keyboard in my laptop, don't work properly, so I am using the external one and when I'm using laptop on my bed, I like to place that externat keyboard on a laptop, in place of laptop's keyboard. And because I didn't want to press anything by mistake, I wanted to disable the built in laptop. I had problems with it on Windows, as after one update in the past, the disabled and even uninstalled laptop's keyboard, after restart, was installed and enabled again. I needed to do kind off too much tinkering to disable it permanently. But on Linux, I just set a command: xinput disable "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard", to automatically run on log in and that was it, the built in keyboard wasn't enabling itself since. I mean, it was working only on log in screen, but only there.
So yeah, I don't think, I will be coming back to Windows. I didn't even do a backup of my previous Windows installation, I just took a folder with my artworks and saves for some games and left Windows. And if one day, I would buy a new device, after Microsoft's another tries to force people to use Windows, I will do everything I can on that new device, to throw Windows out and install Linux back.
Good luck, I recommend the slimbooks Pro X
Bro, are you writing an essay or what Lmao!!!
Switched to linux because my PC was too old for W11. Best choice of my life, work stuff, private stuff and gaming working perfectly and the same HW is snappier than W10. Also now I don't feel the need to buy a new PC. Thanks Mr Penguin :)
I can't see myself ever going back to Win... just not gonna happen.
Yeah' me neither. Even if I stopped running this channel, I wouldn't change OS
TuxCare - sounds like a great product. It would be great to hear why such a product "should" be required for the Python programming language. That is why are Python developer modifying their APIs to such a point that apps based upon previous versions are breaking.
"Windows has a store now and it's getting better"
Yeah, now you don't even need to try and dodge the spyware because there is no point to it anymore. Spyware is now a "feature".
Also I just think Microsoft is ingenious for not letting you start apps on that store if your OS is not updated. Obviously this is done for security concerns, wouldn't want all that spyware to stop working.
That's a bit cynical. Of course they want their telemetry etc. to run, and they do run a garbage ad business with a ton of dark patterns to herd you to Bing. But Windows is used by an absurdly large number of people, a good chunk of who barely understand anything about computers, and that's probably charitable. Some of the biggest malware disasters in recent memory have occurred because people didn't update their Windows machines and their computers got hijacked into a botnet. Linux is mostly deployed on servers, or used by enthusiasts who know what they're doing and like being up to date. The difference is just night and day.
@@Komatik_ "It is used by a lot of people" is objectively a bad standard to measureb anything by. Yeah it is used by a lot of people, because that spyware comes preinstalled on 99.7% of computers which makes Windows billions in licensing deals. Start putting Linux natively on every new computer and watch how quickly that changes. As MentalOutlaw once fittingly said: For normies, Windows is just a bootloader for Google Chrome.
@@Finkelfunk I didn't claim that Windows was necessary for people. I said that it is used by a huge number of people who won't update unless forced to, and the end result of not being forced to has been a multitude of huge security issues. One of those large botnet scandals? It happened long after Microsoft had patched the security flaw used by the malware. But because people didn't patch, there was a crapton of vulnerable machines around. That's the point.
@@Komatik_ Maybe people and especially companies (who are the main target of botnets) would update their systems regularly if it weren't for the fact that every other update borks Windows in a major way, causing data loss, boot failures and otherwise exceedingly long down times. You think a logistics hub can afford to wait for all PCs to "just update to the newest version" every other day if the PCs need to restart several times, get boot looped or stuck on the installation script and need to relaunch at all?
Yes i agree with every word in this video..I was a windows user but switched on fedora 38, 2 months ago..i am super satisfied with it..the main reason i ditched win is hardware support..i have relatively new hardware but not enough new for windows 11(ok there is workaraound,and i use it for a very short time)..and i noticed on sight how faster fedora is, and uses much less resources from my hardware...like i just bought super new computer lol..
There is a lot of difference with windows and Linux OS's to be out there not just that a lot of options not all Linux is require internet to be exact and can run smoothly and as time and development continues we will be getting better Verizo's of those systems and what not at most for gaming and personal use I believe in a couple more years or so Linux will be more main stream and the market will shift completely I no now that system76 is making PC's with popOS completely And no of the Linux phones that are being made/in development and what not and hope for more of a future with more alternatives to computers and more technology then just Android IOS or windows / Mac the future is bright
Wow zero punctuation or new lines. Not very easy to read at all.
The gamers are getting into Linux and tat will help a lot. It's already the operating system of Internet servers and of little boards like the Raspberry PI of which there are millions produced every year.
I love your shirts, it fits your style lol. I love software management on Linux, it's so simple and efficient. And I love having mostly very tiny updates using a Debian base, I can update it reliably no matter the connection I'm using, even in hotels and whatnot.
Possible Linux is better, but these are my thoughts
1 - Software manager. You can update directly the software through the application, or using winget if you want to do it by powershell (> winget upgrade all) or having another windows package manager (there are few options there). It's not a critical thing if you don't need to deal with dozens or hundreds of different programs. And the programs in windows, doesn't matter how old it is, or the windows updates, it always works, thanks to the windows API.
2- Monetary cost: You can install windows for free and legally. Period. The only thing that it will not allow you is to change the personalization (that means, you can not set up a wallpaper.)
3- Time in troubleshooting windows. Not comparable to the time doing int Linux. And, with Windows Restoration Points, it's not need to troubleshoot anything. Just go to the restore point where the things were working before you mess up. Personally, I have a windows system Image in an SSD that I can recover bare metal windows in less than 10 minutes with all the programs already installed.
4- Fixing the OS: I'm not interested at all to fix the code of any OS, and I can say with confidence any users that want the OS for work, are willing to do it. I had 0 problems with Windows 10 until now.
5- SSD espace. Yes, Linux works better with prehistoric machines or with very low performance ones. Most laptos nowadays have at least 500 GB if not more. This argument could be valid 15 years ago.
6- Customization: There are a tons of programs open source that can add the functionality that you are looking for in Windows. I have a second task bar installed where I can put all my shortcuts to programs, files and folders. Do you want a better tile manager? You have a lot of options. etc.
7- Security. Windows programs have algorithmic keys that alerts you that a program is not trustworthy. If you want to installed, its at your own risk. Windows have also the Microsoft defender, that works very well.
8- Command line. I'm not an IT manager that needs to modify servers and a lot of laptops at the same time, but this is why powershell was created.
There's a lot of things I want to say, but I don't have time. Try doing some more research on things like security. And whatever customization windows has linux has it 10x. You can make your own desktop with openbox if you feel like it even.
@@elecbaguette " And whatever customization windows has linux has it 10x. " too bad each UI pulls blanket on itself and refuses to cooperate. I've seen more than once how you choose dark theme for the app and only half of the windows go dark as others use their white styling from system settings (KDevelop had trouble with this for ages, but I think they only recently fixed it)
Oh, and the defaults are insane. For example, you need gnome tweak to change right click emulation on trackpad. Why do I need to download additional package for such basic personalization?
Off-topic question, but I'm struggling to decide between Mailspring and the new Thunderbird (102). I like how clean Mailspring is as well as some of the features, but it tends to hang when deleting or trying to fetch new mail from the server if it's been running for a little while. I've used Thunderbird a lot in the past and it was passable, but haven't tried the newest update for more than a couple of days.
IME thunderbird also hangs when it tries to fetch new mail from IMAP server to mailbox which has not been cleaned since 2019.
the problem with linux desktop is that you have to live with the limitations of an OS not supported by the industry, whether it's adobe products or nvidia drivers. Linux on the server has fantastic industry backing so this is not an inherent issue with linux, but the fact still remains - if you're on linux desktop, prepare to sacrifice things you like to do like work in video production or play the latest dx12 games with RTX
To be fair, the .exe hunting and 'search github' aren't THAT different.
A few more things:
Linux links and short cut keys work from anywhere on the system, but Windows links with short cuts have to be on the desktop.
Short cut keys the user creates in Linux are not tied to links.
I can also change my keyboard keys on the fly with bash scripts and short cut keys.
Power Shell is a pain to use compared to Bash. You mentioned that, but it is a real pain by not being intuitive in it's commands. They should have built on CMD.
It's easier to access your encrypted drive with Linux. With Windows you might end up without being able to access the drive.
File sharing is easier with Linux, and can be secured better. You can even make hidden shares, and restrict the types of files sent.
Linux can stay running 24/7. Windows often messes up an application meant to run 24/7, like security cameras, with as little as checking for updates.
Programing my G604 mouse is more reliable and easier in Linux than Windows.
More wear and tear on the OS drive in Windows than Linux.
Auto downloading of Windows updates can drag everything to a crawl in Windows. Not so with Linux, which is why my spouse switched to Linux.
Linux isn't better then windows until you people get your heads out of the sand and start actual collaborating to make a functional UI, that does not ever have to hit the command line or hidden config files, for what should be very simple tasks. Doing some basic things in linux can be an actual chore, and a waist of time. The only thing I use linux for is a system that is 1 and done like a router, that never needs to be updated, because changing anything inside linux, install is an all day task.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 your presumption has just summed up the entire FOSS community.
Welcome to 2022, where the GUIs on Linux are far better than Windows, more coherent, easier to use, and don't require the command line at all!
This comments isn't even close to true, I am the first one to say that Linux is far from perfect and I also don't hate windows. People can use anecdotal evidence all they want and I can as well. Windows has for the majority been just fine, does what I need, plays the games I want, doesn't chug on my system however...Your comment boils down to being stupid? All you did was cry about basic things....like super basic....You couldn't even properly make an example of the specific complaint you have. But have the nerve to tell people they have their head in the sand. No...that's you...being too stupid to perform the most basic of things on a Operating system..
Windows also has hidden files that need to be allowed to view... Windows also does some actions on command line like network tools....You bitched about user training issues and act as if its the community and the system at fault..
@@terrydaktyllus1320 Or maybe because developers(majority non paid) want to work on "interesting" parts that solve their problems at expense of UI that solves users' problems? Even SerenityOS supports search across menu which is more functional than windows, something which is not possible on linux due to it lacking one single mechanism of menu.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 SerenityOS is hobby OS. Like templeOS, but more serious. Searching across menus is like "Search everywhere"(shift-shift) of CLion. Only it works in literally every application. You don't need to remember in submenu of which menu the functionality is hidden. You just type it. Is it file->preferences? Options->preferences? tools->preferences? Who cares, just type "pref" and you'll get to the preference. Super useful, and So this is closer to querying app with dbus rather than searing with find.
Speaking of, linux really needs more dbus support. That would solve lots of integration headaches.
Regarding privacy & security: There is a official article from microsoft called "Windows 10, version 21H2, [...] required Windows diagnostic events and fields". It documents which data is collected just by Windows if we restrict the data collection as much as possible (selecting none/minimum). But you shouldn't be in a hurry: The Estimated time to read is 359 minutes (!!!). According to the print preview, it's about 145 A4 papers. There is also another document for optional diagnostic data, which is "just" 26 minutes.
Even though I knew Windows was collecting some data, it was a shocking amount when I found this article. It seems this has grown, the same documentation for e.g. Windows 10 - 1703 is still huge, but noticeable less than on recent versions. It's also interesting that there is much less optional data. So microsoft considers nearly all data "required". If this is true, Windows 10 and 11 should be able to read minds compared to older releases like Windows 2000 or XP, which collected way less information 🙈
I think Windows is okay for most users, those who are happy to accept that their computer controls them and not the other way around, but for those who want to be in full control and have things the way they want them, Linux is the answer.
I have a fairly old Acer laptop that was shipped with Windows 8. It's had many faults, first the DVD drive stopped working then the touch tablet failed and after that the batteries stopped charging. Once Win8 support ended I thought I'd try putting Linux Mint on it, it's now completeley rejuvinated and useable again. The DVD drive works, the tablet works and the batteries charge properly so all those faults I assumed were hardware failures were in fact issues with Windows. It also runs much quicker, so if you have an old Windows PC you're thinkng of binning don't, try this first!
i partly disagree with point 2 just because most of windows user actually likes the fact that we have offline package installers (exe,msi) that is unified and not needing to install online package distribution types like linux where some apps are snap or flatpak or appimage etc
Agreed. When I was using Garuda, I often had issues with updates: garuda and pacman assume you have perfect internet connection (I use mobile phone tethered via bluetooth) and if there's 5 seconds of network issues, pacman complained, quit and I had to restart update again. One of the reasons I switched away from garuda.
I switched to Linux for work since most of my work is browser-based so nothing to worry about. I like it it is far superior than windows, very snappy, and shuts down in seconds. It's 100% FREE!!!!
4:35 - "Time spent learning something new is never wasted."
I've been developing a python program for school on Linux. Trying to make the same code run on windows was a pain in my butt, I've never experienced bugs in the interpreter until now.
The bugs weren't in the interpreter. Python works fine on Windows.
@@dave7244you're probably right but there was a bug somewhere, all I had to do was restart.
The best area? Who owns YOUR PC? With Windows, a quick Google search will net you lots of pages of people talking about that very topic with what Windows does behind the scenes that most people don't know about. With Linux, there is no discussion. You own your own PC with Linux. Anything and everything it does is opened up for you see what is going on with your computer and it obeys your commands without changes settings on you behind your back.
👍I switched to Linux years ago for most of reasons you just said. I still have to use windows at work and I'm always issues with that machine.
I want to agree with you, I really do. The thing is, after using exclusively Linux for work for a year, I finally did the switch on my personal laptop. Everything is plain better, or so it seems because I can't use it. My laptop has a screen on the smaller side, but it's 1080p, and there's no fractional scaling option available, at least on the distro I ended up choosing (Fedora). Such a small missing feature but it makes it unusable for visual impaired folks or people with small screens
I mean every operating system has it’s own learning curve. Plus if you make a point of using OS independent applications swapping between operating systems isn’t so difficult when you can use some of the same applications across the board. Like Firefox, VLC, FileZilla.. for example.
To your point with SteamOS and handheld computers: Many are making both Windows and SteamOS versions now, such as Ayaneo. However I have to say that SteamOS makes me want to ditch Windows 11 some days on my OnexPlayer since it's pretty slick.
Brilliant video but I will like to request a video about control center apps in Linux. Something that controls the fan speeds, the rgb lighting on keyboard and rgb logos . Cheers
10:33 I'm very new to Linux, so I may not know what I'm talking about, but I thought the general consensus was that Linux WAS more secure (to at least some extent). Not in regards to less frequent attacks (due to the smaller user base), but due to how it was actually coded/developed.
Is that not the case?
There's no special coding. technically speaking since anybody could make a security audit, the software should be more secure, but realistically no one actually makes such audits.
Linux is considered more secure because of how it's put together.
@@JanVerny I read something about how you have to actively execute a virus on your computer on Linux or something, as to where on Windows you can just open a folder or file or photo or something.
Not that I'm in any position to suggest you're wrong, but are you saying viruses have an equally easy time regardless of which environment they're in?
@@cameronmoore136 what you are talking about is basic permission/access rights management. Both systems have had these features since their conception. But you are right that in Linux the user by default cannot execute arbitrary code from a file.
At least in theory this makes for more secure environment, that is until the user inputs a copy pasted text into their commandline.
I know of many reasons Linux could be considered more secure, none if it is particulary down to the linux architecture.
@@JanVerny Okay, I gotcha. I appreciate the input.
I beg to differ. I believe that the following is a public message service : If you're alone, if you don't have a geek brother, Linux is ONLY for the high IQ, technical oriented, resilient and PATIENT people. Linux has a steep learning curve. If you survive the first year, GNU/linux becomes a pleasure. I have heard many people, from all genders, say that they have tried linux, but were forced to give up and go back after a short time. It was a bit the same for me. I tried linux as a dual boot with windows. This is hell, because it forces you to transition cold turkey : when you need a windows program, you have to reboot, with fast booting disabled, it's incredibly long. Second, the 1st program I tried to install on Ubuntu was Azureus. It was not in the software center. I was excited, my first linux install. I was a geek with correct IQ, and I could even write code. Well, I have to confess that the difficulty level was too hard for me. I discovered Azureus is a Java program. Wait. I didn't even know about the software center. Nobody had told me... (2015). (I had no smartphone, I guess going to the software center is more a reflex for everyone nowadays). Anyway, I had to install a Java environment on Ubuntu. I had to choose the version of Java. And each time I would fix a problem, there would be a new one. A new bug. Cryptic message that I'd copy to Google. Opening dozens of tracks of resolution to choose from. I finally did it, but it took so long...
My point is that it is *counter-productive* to say linux is just amazing, completely easy, "even easier than windows!!", that it's lighter in size... "you don't need more than 16 GB !!". Let's stop on this last common saying. I had created a 16GB partition for Linux, plus 4GB swap. Quickly, I ran into unsolvable disk space problems. If I could reduce my dual boot windows parititions, I could extend them for linux, right? No. I did not have free space on the right of my linux partition. So I was stuck.
I thought I had been stupid, or that I had used bad sources of information telling me to choose 16GB total. That was wrong. **Three** years later I did a coding bootcamp. Most people were younger than me. I ran into countless high IQ people who almost had to quit the bootcamp because after 5 weeks, their disk space problems had become unsolvable (even with the help of pros inside the boot camp). They had read "you just need 16GB !!!" or even "just 12GB!!".
So please find a balance. Please consider the idea that when you tell newbies that Linux is hard, reserved for the elite, it will attract the right people, and they won't feel dumb when they run into problems. They will find the challenge they expected and enjoy it, instead of feeling betrayed and stupid. If you tone down the "it's crazy how Linux takes EIGHT times less disk space than windows, you only need 15 GB !!" then there won't be whole generations of youth who will hate linux because it forced them to quit a bootcamp because of unsolvable disk space issues.
Linux is hard. It's more complex than Windows. It's not a bad thing or a good thing, it's a truth. Let's share it !
Another thing that older people should consider is that switching to linux is not easier today for the young ("you can google every problem now!!", "All distros have improved now!!"), it's harder, because Windows has focused ever more on security, so now people who try to switch to linux come with bitlocker external drives that they want to share with linux, bitlocker internal drives protected by TPM that they need to share over samba, etc. Makes the switch so much harder than it was already.
So if this comment is not subtly banned, and if you're someone considering trying linux, I recommend to not dual boot, just install linux on a cheap laptop. Choose large disk space. Choose ubuntu. Use secure boot. Prepare for 12 difficult months, but if you're patient enough, linux can become a pleasure, so much so that to switch back to windows is not an option anymore.
0:14 there are no egyptian ancient manuscripts providing evidence of that
In regards to your privacy and security comments, I think it's important to point out that one of the biggest reasons Linux desktops are less vulnerable is simply because it represents a much smaller target demographic than Windows or Mac.
Ultimately, the time a hacker could spend building Linux malware would be better spent building malware for Windows or Mac because it's much more likely to have a larger impact.
Not all Linux software is in a repo or store. Some commercial software must be still downloaded from the producers website, e.g. Wordfast.
8:40 Dang, I never thought of it that way! We have so many options for phones, cars, COMPUTERS. Yet no one really complains about that.
I recommend SCOOP (is like winget or chocolate) but it has versioning, is not using installers, is more like a linux packet manager overall, better for sysadmin, and I use winget for the rest
I don't care which one is better I just choose the one that works for me. Few problems with Linux are email client with Microsoft exchange and MFA. Windows Mail app is just the best I think. Microsoft Teams lacks some features on Linux, such as background blur. Forget running ANSYS. Linux has certainly changed the way people think how a computer should be. FOSS also contributes to gaining industry grade knowledge by having access to the source code. You can learn how to build an OS, which wasn't possible without FOSS.
@Danny Michelle I don't use it because I prefer Thunderbird but the mail app is actually pretty solid. I would put money you've never used it if you are even going so far to compare it to gmail, which google has made some really stupid changes over the years. I mean, gmail doesn't even let you sort columns anymore. That's a basic functionality of every program.
I program on Linux and surf the web. I do my heavy art and game design on Windows. Use the right tool for the job.
@Danny Michelle for microsoft exchange.
I like how linux tries to tell you "it's your computer, you can do whatever you want" 🐧
I'd like to add Memory Management. On any big (or small) download, Windows will not release Standby Memory. With a big download, I have to constantly use RAMMAP to force Windows to release Standby Memory. With any Linux OS (or Mac OS), memory is managed a lot better. Thus, Linux OSes and Mac OS need less RAM to run.