Rock Guitarist VS Church Guitarist
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2024
- In this video we will look at the differences between a rock guitarist vs church guitarist. The sound, techniques and mind set of a rock guitarist and a church guitarist are very different. Here is a link for the great backing track that I used in the lesson video. • Southern Rock BACKING ...
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0:00 Rock guitarist vs Church guitarist intro.
0:50 3 main differences from rock guitar player to a church guitar player.
1:19 #1 Sound and tone is different from rock guitarist to church guitarist.
3:54 #2 Different chord and scale techniques.
6:21 #3 Intent that you play the guitar.
7:31 Breakdown rhythm and lead guitar techniques.
11:37 Rock guitar player vs church guitar player.
Oh, my brother Rusty. You set the bar today for every musician - not just guitarists - who has the desire to honor God with the talents He graciously gives. Be encouraged, my friend, and thanks again for producing and sharing another high quality lesson for us.🙏
I like your statement. Honor God with your talents.!!! Thank you for the kind comment! Thanks for checking in🙏
Started out !any years ago in Hollywood California as a rock / metal guitar player. Now I'm 58 and been playing contemporary praise and worship at Churches for about 5 years. I use clean channel with the strymon blue sky, I can't ever say how beautiful and beneficial the blue sky is. Serving God with my time and gifts brings so much joy! I enjoyed to ur video sir!
That is awesome that you are serving the Lord with your talents! The Strymon stuff is really great! I appreciate the comment and thanks a lot for checking out the video👍
Amen...💚🎸
I play so many different styles of music. About 15 years ago I started playing with my church. I had to tweak my guitar playing so that it was more worshipful. Bottom line it’s not about you. It’s about worshiping God using the talents. Great video.
You’re right we are serving the Lord with our talents! If our hearts in the right place, we will play the right things I believe! Thanks Dominic. Catch you later.🙏
This channel is really helping this 50 year old "rocker" adjust...thank you
I’m glad to hear that! Thanks for checking in🙏
You are so right. Too many rock guitarists try to show off their rock skills in church.
Thank you for the comment! Good to see you here! I hope you enjoy your weekend and thanks for watching🙏
Depends on where their heart and direction is with the Lord. They can rock out all they want if God is calling them to do so.
Thanks, Rusty. Awesome talk. I would offer my slight disagreement on one point: I used to be quite reserved in both my singing and playing at church, being very careful to avoid the "showing off" spectacle. One day our minister pulled me aside and explained to me that it's my obligation to share the fullness of the gift that God blessed me with. That I should never hold back. It's not about what I'm capable of, but rather the capability that God has provided me. What's important is the heart - where the music is coming from. Let them see God's light thru me. Don't hide it. Obviously there's the time/place/appropriateness element, but the message was simple. When the time comes, let it fly. Do not hold back. However, even in light of this, I believe it is critical that whatever you decide to play elevates the message, not the sender.
Thanks for sharing the story! We never want to hold back but just play. What’s appropriate for this song. In any style of music. That’s awesome that you’re using your talents to serve the Lord. I know it’s exciting for me. I appreciate you checking out the video.🙏
I second this 100%
I play both ways at church. Some songs need the lighter touch and some need a little OD for the push. Only occasionally do I do any soloing and that's really for a build up in the song. And yes you have to keep the ego in check. A lot of church musicians need to work on dynamics. Nobody needs to play all the time. Sometimes the song just needs space to breath. A place for people to be able to hear others singing, or hear from God. Thanks for your great videos on both sides.
Right on! Dynamics and letting the song breathe. Well said! I appreciate the comment and thanks for watching.🙏
Well put and to say rock style isn't for worship music let alone modern worship is very old minded and close minded. Just listen to most modern contemporary Christian music and u can hear leads in the background so to say doing a lead isn't worship is old school close minded and there's more people in church's than just old people that appreciate the rock stuff. Not using the gift you've been given is like slapping God in the face.
@@willkeasling1526I think Rusty isn’t trying to fully jab leads. It seems to me he is coming from a place where all he played was strong rock that worshiped the self as opposed to what he is doing now. It’s more about the heart as we play and sing. A person can play all the leads they want for God but if it is not giving Him glory then I think that is worse than not using all of your gifts.
@@willkeasling1526"contemporary Christian music" is not what he is talking about. He's talking about praise and worship music as part of the bigger setting of a worship service. Big difference. A concert by a contemporary Christian music group or artist would be an excellent place for lead solos. Praise and worship, however, is not a concert.
@@raymondbradley3559 so there's no reason to use the gift to the fullest that he's given which is comparable to burying a talent in the ground then quinching the spirit. Contemporary songs used in a worship set is yes praise and worship and lead r just a filler or add to the music just like bass and drums adds to. Southern gospel has leads and so does gospel just cause they don't stand out. I'm not gonna limit the gift he gave me just cause of close minded people with a religious spirit that needs to be repented of sorry.
Been playing in bands (rock, jazz, r&b) all my life (in and out of church). Understanding the context is always so important.
Well, said! Thanks a lot for checking out the video🙏
Thanks Rusty. I needed to hear your message today. We t back and watched it a second time. I needed to remember why I was on our praise team at church. It is not for us musicians but for the glory of God and offering praise to Jesus Christ. Please keep this one channel going and not only guitar instruction but messages from your heart to ours. God bless you. 6:08
You’re welcome, David! I’m glad you got something from my video! I really do appreciate your comment and blessings to you also🙏
Thanks rusty that was great!!❤
It took me a long time to develop my church style after so many years of rock.
It took me a while to develop a sound that I was comfortable with also! I love blues and rock guitar. Basically I just wanna play which right for the song. And that can mean a lot of different things for sure. Thanks so much for checking out my video Brian.🙏
This was very helpful. You articulated how I have felt about playing guitar in church worship for quite a long time. More of Him and less of me. Blessings. thank you. 🙏
I’m glad the video was helpful! This is a well said message here! Thanks so much for the comment🙏
My first guitar teacher played in the church band. What's funny is he loved metal and hard rock. One Sunday morning he turned the gain up in his amp. You would have thought he came up and gave the congregation the middle finger. The worship leader was not happy. I thought it was awesome and sounded great. He wasn't louder than normal but his tone sounded big.
I believe no matter what kind of music you play we need to play from the heart! And play what’s appropriate for any song. Thanks a lot for checking out the video! Talk to you soon.🙏
Great video Rusty and now a subscriber. 64 year old rocker here, heavily influenced by Pink Floyd. About 6 Years ago I put my trust in Jesus. I have been playing worship for almost 4 years and I love playing guitar more than I ever did playing original secular music. There was definitely a learning curve to find that balance between worship and my style. I am blessed to have a worship director that gives me that creative freedom. The David Gilmour influence comes through at times and it blends quite well.
That’s awesome Roger! I can tell by your words that you’re having fun as you served the Lord with the instrument you’ve been blessed with! I can tell we like a lot of the same guitar music! Thanks for subscribing to my channel and let’s talk soon🙏
@@RustysWorshipGuitar2 It’s quite ironic, in my secular days I did not like playing cover tunes hence the band doing original music back in the 90’s. Now I’m playing cover tunes for God and loving it! May God bless you Rusty.
I am thankfu to God that i grew up in the 70s and have worked hard at developing my skills to become a pro level guitarist. i will leave this abysmal style of "worship" music to 1st year musicians and hope that one day skillful musicianship is appreciated once again in the churches.
As a rock guitarist for decades, the biggest struggle I had was adapting my style to the modern worship style. I found it boring but wanted to serve. At the root of it all I am still a rock guitarist and I play modern worship music to share my gifts so God is glorified but I have to take breaks from it because it’s work to play it. I would equate it to writing with my left hand.
Well, said John! It’s been a big transition for me also! And I’m still learning. But I will always love this sound of the blues rock guitar that I grew up with. It’s exciting to serve the Lord with the instrument that I have been blessed with! Thanks for checking out the video.🙏
I had the same experience at my church . I tried to just “fill in “ quietly in the background ; but what was wanted was to just play one or two notes throughout a song . I just couldn’t do that . I tried it for years ; I didn’t feel like I was contributing anything .
Thanks Rusty! Another excellent video! Great tips on technique and sounds. The main thing I have learned since I started playing at church is that I don’t need to be playing all the time…. Appreciate your sharing. God bless!
Hey Jody, that is a good point about not playing all the time. Thank you for the comment.🙏
Thanking God for you, my musical brother and praising God for Who He is!
Thanks so much brother! God is good and more than to be praised! Talk to you soon🙏
Anyone who watches this channel should get college credit. A lot of it! Thank you, Trusty Rusty.
I really appreciate your encouragement! Thank you for the comment and let’s talk soon🙏
This is such a great lesson. Like many before me, O moved into playing in church and more often than not found myself at odds with the Worship Pastor because I came with a rock/jazz attitude. I eventually walked away with the feeling that I had nothing to offer on that environment because my approach was totally wrong.
I’m such a convincing way you demonstrated that a non-singing guitar play can quite easily add so much beauty without grandstanding. Good on you brother. Excellent😊
Fitting in with other church musicians was a big adjustment for me. I just wanna play with appropriate for the song and mostly for our father in heaven.🙏 Thanks for checking out the video and let’s talk soon👍
I'm 59 played in Rock bands for many years, have played in church bands for over 20 years now, in both cases I serve the song and singer 1rst , if you do that you can't go wrong , that being said there's a time to melt faces also, I'm amazed at how many people have come back to church to hear a great guitar player then stayed for our Lord
Right on John! If our heart is in the right place, we will play what’s appropriate for the song and for our Father in Heaven! Thanks for checking out the video🙏
Very helpful information, especially for me being new to the worship genre and playing in my church's modern service! Thank you.
I’m really glad that the video We can keep getting better at this stuff together! Thanks for watching🙏
Hey Rusty, this was so much of a blessing to me... although I believe I knew this, I really found your discussion so refreshing and a way to explain this that helps greatly! Stay blessed! I'll be back!
Hey Raymond, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment and for all your support! Blessings to you also and let’s talk soon🙏
Thank you bro!
As a bassist, I feel the same way- less is more. We lead in Worship, opening the court of worshipping The Holy One , leading to Jesus.
Think
I picked up some old James Gang -Joe Walsh lead on those stretches.
Have a good one bro!
Great video.
I'm just learning, and my daughters don't mind that I send them Bach Chorales. One even commented that I could play it in a church choir. I'm not ready for that yet, but it gives me inspiration.
I recently had to undergo a surgical intervention. I've had too many life-changing experiences because of operations, but especially recovery rooms and the ICU.
I talked with the surgeon, and they were all to aware of the problem.
In the recovery room this time, there were few people (I can't remember clearly) but there were only two machines running. They must have been a perfect fifth or fourth apart, since they were soothing. The nurse appeared as if an angel to tell me that I was in the recovery room, and I think I told her I was listening to a song, and that I had no pain. I wrote to my surgeon and explained the times I woke up with machines making dissonant sounds. He thinks this is very important and will talk with his colleagues. He even talked about how this would also have an effect for the medical staff!
Why don't you spontaneously call your local hospital and discuss this with the surgeons and anaesthisists. I'm sure they would be very interested. They might put you in contact with medical equipment makers. Imagine making music to heal people?
Thanks for watching the video! Sorry to hear about your health problems! And I pray that you grow closer to God each day. I appreciate your support of my channels. 🙏
I just found your video, brother Rusty, Thank you for your expertise and you play very well too!! God Bless you and your family!!
I’m glad you like the channel! Blessings to you also my brother🙏
I never developed at rock; I developed some in fusion jazz some. Improvising played an important part. I found paranoia is the secular music world. It seemed more like a competition; that I am bound to lose. Fear of losing...
Jesus has rescued me musically. One of my prayers before we start is that the Holy Spirit fills us with the music and we play it for Him. God gives it to us and we give it back the very best we can.
I do enjoy approaching some of your techniques. All in all I don't have to fear it. My music has a purpose. I have needed a purpose for my music and playing all along. Now I understand why Bach only had one major gig outside the church; it wasn't too long before he returned to the church.
I loved when you said Jesus rescued me! I feel the same way! And the Holy Spirit fill the church and the music! I appreciate your comment and thanks so much for checking out the video🙏
@@RustysWorshipGuitar2 You are Welcome, and thank you.
Played my first Church Service today and yes, you are right on you thoughts on the differences. Great video. All the best and God bless you - from Denmark.
That’s exciting! Greetings from Chicago! Blessings to you my brother 🙏
Thanks Rusty. I’ve made that transition and you described perfectly what I couldn’t really describe in words. I didn’t really know if I was doing things the right way, it’s as if I’ve been making it up as I go along. But you’ve reassured me I’m going in the right direction with my sound. I didn’t even think about intent before but you really nailed it. I love reverb and delay! Wish I could afford a Strymon, it sounds beautiful in your demos!
You’re welcome! I appreciate your comment and thanks so much for checking out the video! I hope you find some affordable petals that fit the sound that you’re going for! Talk to you soon🙏
If you're looking for a traditional pedal on a budget, I suggest the Mooer D7 X2, very reasonably priced, not really a sacrifice in sound quality just does not have some of the features of the more expensive petals out there. If you really wanted good combo, they also make a very good ambient reverb pedal. This is coming from someone that isn't into overuse of delay and reverb. However, if you're going to use it, you should use something that doesn't sacrifice the guitar's tone. There was a lot of effort put into this video, I appreciate the effort Rusty made.
God bless you I myself worship in church and looking for that type of sound. You have helped me as I was trying to reach this sound for my worshiping
Thank you! Blessings to you also! I appreciate you leaving a comment and checking out the video🙏
Love where you’re coming from. Great tones and tips. Nicely made vid.
Thanks so much! And I really appreciate your comment here 🙏
Thanks Brother, this was great insight and encouragement! Blessings
You’re welcome Tim! And thank you for checking out the video! 🙏
You helped to reveal what I prefer to play. I like to do leads, but I prefer those type of leads that support vocals. I'm definitely not a shredder
Cool! Thanks so much for checking out my video! I hope you have a great weekend🙏
Yeah I'm a rockers but when we talk about worship song yes I will surrender to you Lord Jesus u created me thats why I will surrender to you all of my life❤❤❤🙏
Well, said my friend! Your heart is in the right place! And that makes us play in a way that honors God! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching🙏
Chet Atkins once said “The song is the star”. As a support player, we play what the song needs so as not to be distracting. Simple open arpeggios or whole note chords are exactly what fits sometimes.
That’s a great quote. And taking that a step farther, our Father in Heaven is the star when we play music at church. Thanks a lot for checking out the video.🙏
For me, the "big adjustment" was playing rock guitar.
I worked my way through college from '83 to '87 as lead electric guitar player and vocalist in a Top 40 / Country cover band. My boss insisted that I play other people's parts note for note and mimic other vocalists when I sang. I played music I didn't like on an instrument I had no independent desire to own or play (Stratocaster) to an audience filled with intoxicated divorcees. It was a job.
Bluegrass was my "jam."
I got started as a music maker as a 12 year old kid in 1977 on one of the first banjos that Greg Deering built for commercial sale. I had lessons from an "L.A. session scene cat" for three years. I got my first guitar, an Ovation Balladeer, on Christmas Day, 1980, and immediately proceeded to make music on the thing by simply co-opting banjo techniques.
One of those is formulating leads, riffs, and runs from triads. The other is picking the strings with my thumb, index, and middle fingers.
So, playing like that is second-nature to me and has long been my preferred approach when I'm free to play a song how I want to play it.
Oh yes! I know that that style works well in a worship church setting. Thanks a lot for checking out the video. Later, buddy.🙏
A greatly blessed man. Sharing your gifts to bless us.
Thanks Joe! Good to hear from you 🙏
Awesome video Rusty!! You got a new subscriber. God Bless your ministry and I can't wait for more.
I appreciate that! Thanks for subscribing to the channel. Enjoy the rest of your week my brother.🙏
As always, such a nice person and an accomplish musician you are. The world needs billions of people like you. It is a pure pleasure to listen to you and to your playing. Have a Perfect Day Rusty.
Thanks so much for the kind message! I really do appreciate it! It’s really good to see you here🙏
Good points here. As it happens, the effects level here is much higher than I’ve ever used.
Thanks a lot Richard! It sounds like a lot effects level by myself in the video. But when playing with a church band it’s a lot smoother and cuts through the mix. Thanks a lot for the comment. Talk to you soon.🙏
Thanks Rusty. Going from a rock band to praising Jesus was a big transition.I love the leaning curve!
Right on my brother! Let’s keep getting better at this stuff together! Blessings, my brother🙏
Great lesson, thank you for sharing!
Thanks a lot! I appreciate you checking out the video🙏
Just stumbled onto this video clip & was very impressed with the subject matter & the ideas given to make the transition from a Blues/Rocker to a church musician. Having been playing rock/blues back in the 70's also I can relate to the transition. My solution to being more supportive to the worship vocal's is to play on an acoustic guitar & let my buddy handle the subtle lead parts. But seriously, I also found playing triads beneficial. Also most church music is in major key's so that keeps you of the minor pentatonic blues scales. Great article.
Hey Kevin, i’m glad you stumbled on the video. That’s awesome that you’re playing at church! Good to see you here and enjoy the rest of your Sunday.🙏
Rusty, as a new subscriber to your channel and seasoned worship leader / rock guitarist / guitar teacher, etc.. this video is very helpful! Great video, thanks! Blessings!
I really appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to leave this encouraging comment! Have a blessed weekend, my brother🙏
Some of the songs we do in church service are pretty upbeat and driving so I use a more aggressive tone in those songs but when we go into the more worshipful songs I drop it down to some tones like you were displaying. Love your lessons brother.
Nice! We have to play with fits the song for sure! Thanks a lot John for the comment and let’s talk soon🙏
Thanks for the lesson, wish I had this when I transitioned into CCM 6 months ago...lots of trial and error. The band director was patient with me and waited for this old country-blues player to develop to the modern worship style.
Thanks for sharing some of your story here! I’m still learning also! Let’s keep working on this stuff together! Talk to you soon, my friend🙏
The “modern worship style “ ; at least in my area ; is to play just one note continuously throughout the song ! Anything else is considered to be showing off ! I decided to just back out .
@Stupidjerk1184 CCM is much more than one repeating note...and while that is some of what we do..., we also play triads, 1-note lines, 2 note lines for harmony. Also, use a slide for lead parts. It may not seem easy to play, but the more you play the more you'll get used to it. Begin to use inverted chords and shell voicing.
Great insight brother. I also was a secular rock guitarist from that time and gave my life over to the Lord. I have been playing Christian music since the late 70's. I currently play guitar in a praise/worship band and know what you mean about the sound and scales being used. I also use a light overdrive setting with digital delay and chorus/reverb for that ambient sound. I enjoyed this lesson. Thanks.
That’s awesome that you are serving the Lord with your talent Dave! I appreciate you sharing a small piece of your Guitar journey here. Thanks for checking out the video and have a great weekend.🙏
Similar story. Started playing in 1977. I’ve had to harness my inner Nugent and Van Halen instincts. It’s about enhancing worship, complimenting the song, not ourselves.
Hey Richard, thanks for sharing your story. Well said! Good to see you here 🙏
Rusty. You never disappoint. Roll on brother.
Thanks a lot, Rick! Much much appreciated🙏
Thanks Rusty! I just discovered this channel. I was just saying the other day. I don’t understand ambient type guitar . Worship music has like 5 guitars playing and usually it’s only me in our group.
We only have one electric guitar player each week at our church. If there’s multiple guitar parts in a song, I will try to create just one electric guitar part that flows from beginning to end. That usually means that too many full bar chords at all. thanks so much for checking out the video Steve🙏
I've never thought of that before...👍 Praise God..
Blessings, my brother! Thank you for your support support always🙏
Very nice to go along with the worship of our LORD thank you Rusty
You’re very welcome! Thanks for checking out the video 🙏
Exactly. Too many Rock guitarists are about flash and not just showing off their talent, but showing off their ego. Many solos are tremendously overplayed, even in secular music. Praise God if you have the talent to do that, but it doesn't belong in worship music. Thank you for an interesting video.
Thank you for the comment! I appreciate you checking out the video and enjoy your Sunday🙏
I've been both and have been playing in our worship band for the best 14 years. I have a blue sparkle Duesy Starplayer TV and love that Grand Vintage HB in it. I also have a Novo Serus J and a couple Gretsches that I play alot. All are great for CCM.
Yes, I love that Duesenberg! Thanks for checking out the video and have a great Sunday🙏
Thank you Rusty! Agree with you 100%...Great video with good insight into worshipping Our Heavenly Father. Excellant advice!! Thanks again!😊
Thanks a lot Ray! I really do appreciate your message! Enjoy the rest of your week buddy 🙏
@@RustysWorshipGuitar2 Likewise my brother 😊👍
Only a minute into this and my first thought was that how many church guitar players (I'm one of them) are really frustrated rock guitar players who have no other outlet (I'm NOT one of them) 😁
All jokes aside, I think the points you make are very on point.and your technical skills are well beyond my own. Some nice ideas in there - i.e. it doesn't have to be complicated.
Subscribed.
Thanks for subscribing to the channel! I love to crank it up and let loose, but I also wanna play what fits the song that we are playing. And most of all to honor God with my talent. Great to see you here and let’s talk soon.🙏
Thank you brother in Christ
You’re welcome! Thank you for checking out the video and leaving a comment my brother 🙏
I’ve noticed the Bible in the background in some of your previous videos. I figured you are church guy. Glory to God!
Blessings Rodney! Thanks a lot for all your support! Talk to you soon 🙏
Really good stuff, thanks!
I appreciate that! Thanks for watching🙏
I like the deep reverbs on modern worship (I use the Neunaber Seraphim) but often I revert to a simple classic spring reverb on traditional hymns or Maranatha type songs. We try to draw from a wide variety of musical with a diverse congregation. I also find added nines very useful and I vary chord inversions with the same song especially b when I go to the chorus or a bridge. I punch old school power chords with subtle overdrive and light compression for dynamics. I never play solos but will sometimes double under a vocal hook with an octave pedal. Thanks for this useful channel. I’m old, too 😅 and I pastor the church.
Those are all great tools to create a great sound! And I use them myself! I’m sure you can agree that if our heart is right with the Lord, we will play in a way that honors HIM!!! Thanks a lot for checking out the video🙏
Hi Rusty! God Bless!! Yes! I also am a guitar player from the 70's into the 80's. This is the video to watch if you're coming from a Rock/Blues background! I've played over 20 years in bands Live gigs, recordings, tours, etc. and playing a certain style. Now going to a Church, Worship team setting is quite different to say the least! I have to really alter my style of playing! It's a totally different way of playing! I'm still learning how to play this way, not only style, but also what effects to use. But I like this style of playing over the old Rock days! I like using triads, scales in this style of playing and I agree we have to serve the song. Currently I'm using a Helix to get these sounds. I was just a pedal guy, "back in the day." Overdrive, Wah, Flanger was my weapons of choice back then. Thanks for this video Rusty!
Well, said my brother! I am still learning myself. But I’m definitely having fun doing it and it sounds like you are also! Thanks for the comment. Let’s talk soon.🙏
Thank you Rusty, this info is awesome. In my case, I am primarily an acoustic guitarist and bassist who gets pressed into electric guitar duty at times. I am thankful that the praise music style is technically simpler because I can’t shred (wish I could).
You’re welcome! I can play fast but it’s not appropriate for most songs that we do in our church service! Thanks so much for checking out the video🙏
I play electric in a praise and worship band and have off and in rock bar bands for many years. While I agree you've got to shift over to the major pentatonic for the most part in church there are plenty of songs in minor keys or minor key segments that you can basically play blues rock over. My approach is to get most pure vintage overdriven tone I can with as little modern cheese effects as possible. Using the guitar volume and tone controls to round out. To me some of the greatest moments are playing very laid back but very brutal vintage overdrive, meaningful bends, appropriate vibrato, etc. Nice video!
There is no doubt we can add some of our rock and blues influences. Thanks for checking out the video. Blessings to you and for using your talent for the Lord.🙏
Couldn't agree with you more. I have a very similar approach. It's not that I never use ambient effects, but I know they are overused. If you're playing with many other instruments, the type of bluesy organic sound is much better in the mix without getting muddy, if done tastefully. When you have keyboards and pads already doing the ambient thing, one or two electric guitars that are also wet with ambient effects, just drown in a sea of irrelevance.
Great point. I agree! Effects color changes get lost amongst other instruments. Clean overdriven vintage tube amps tone tamed with the guitar volume knob is my trick. I also play through a tube amps next to me as well as through the system
Thanks Mr. Rusty. Like you, I grew up a rock and blues player but have played for worship teams often. The reminder about glorifying the Lord with our talents and gifts (and not ourselves) hit home. Love this channel (I subscribe to your other one as well). Looking forward to gleaning more from your insight in the future. Blessings.
Hey Philip, thanks so much, buddy! We have a lot in common! Thanks for your support to my channels! I know we will talk soon. Later.🙏
God bless you Rusty. I enjoy your channels very much.
Blessings to you also! Thanks so much! I appreciate your support to my channels🙏
This a great video and so tasty! Thanks, Rusty!
I’m glad to hear that! Thanks for checking out the video🙏
You don’t really get “church guitarist “ in UK however the principle you are talking about is priceless in context of lead and backing guitar 👍👍
Thanks for checking out the video! If our heart is right with God, we will play what is appropriate🙏
I'm both - I started in rock and made the transition too - but for me the rig difference is the biggest difference tone-wise.
I like that you mentioned the intent. An audience of one.
But I think an aggressive tone isn’t a big deal at church - rocking out for God for the right reasons isn’t a bad thing.
Plus i made the mistake of trying tk sound like every other church guitarist (like The Edge), but after about a decade i let my true heart out -
My style, tone, intensity + God motivated = amazing worship.
I like your comment here! We all need to find our own sound. God knows our heart. This video here was just a a basic overview of some of my thoughts. But I certainly rock out at times in the church service just not an Eddie Van Halen or Jimmy page solo. thanks a lot for checking out the video and let’s talk soon.🙏
@@RustysWorshipGuitar2 I always think of the Babylon Bee satire piece "Church Bassist bursts into flames warming up with Black Sabbath song" 🤣 I appreciate what your saying, it's not about us, I had a great worship leader that said : " If we do our job right, people don't see us, they see God." I left a "megachurch" after 10 years for a few reasons. One was that playing in front of several thousand was a struggle with my ego - keeping it in check, the other was that the church became so heavily focused on production and "stage toys" like lights and fog, cameras, etc, to the point that it began to feel like Jesus had "left the building". God is everywhere, but I think you get the point. There was no longer room for spontaneous worship, when it's obvious the congregation is really into it and you should keep it going, because, well, you need to leave the stage at 9:17 so the person who does the connection cards comes out. The staff went to conferences and began to adopt "best practices" like we were in corporate America and trying to optimize profitability. They became what I refer to as a McChurch franchise - a whole movement where you can step from one into another and notice little if no change. and it shouldn't be about "best practices", it should be about God, and Worship of God is one of our highest forms of Praise and connection.
I started working on my own music with my home recording studio and bringing my Martin to a small church where my friend is pastor, who desperately needed a Worship Leader, Instead of playing Nigel Hendroff lines, I was trying to be the Hands and Feet of God and help organize (herd cats) a small church's praise team with older (mid-2000s) P&W songs, with me singing and strumming. It's been rewarding to watch their team grow and become cohesive.
Really good playing love the ambient
Thanks a lot! I’m glad you like the video and thanks for checking it out🙏
Awesome Rusty , Bless you Brotherman :)
Right on Daniel! Thanks buddy🙏
Thanks Rusty, well said guitarists should learn how to support the praise and worship songs being sung by the worship leaders. When to play rhythm, lead or fingerstyle techniques depend on the situation during P&W moments. I am more on the beginner level how to train musicians to sing and play in front of crowds confidently.
You’re right! we are part of a worship team. Not the main attraction. We need to tastefully use our talents. Thanks a lot for checking out the video.👍
Rusty, well said, and nicely presented. I agree about the approach to the instrument and the motivation. I don't think there's a problem with trying to 'play well', as long as it's not upstaging the song or the vocalists. I find that the guitar lines as recorded in many worship songs tend to be extremely simple, repetitive, and often not very melodious. I think we can do better.
Hey Doug! Well, said my brother! It’s all about our heart! And it sounds like your heart is in the right place! I appreciate the comment buddy🙏
Grazie mille.
Consiglio utilissimo per me God bless you
I’m glad the video was useful! Thanks a lot for watching🙏
Interresting and very handsome guitar too ! 👍
Thank you! I love that Guitar! Thanks for checking out the video🙏
I kinda like the somewhat “middle of the road” sound of Dickie Betts. Frankly, I think the modern church guitar sound relies too heavily on reverb, delay, and chorus effects. I played only at church for years until I decided some younger folks were standing behind me ready for their turn. I grew up in the Pentecostal Church, the incubator of Rock and Roll, man I’ve been around some of the best guitarist out there. Still a huge fan, Rusty!!! Love your channel, love what you do!!!
Hey Nathan, I really appreciate the comment. And it’s great to see you here. I hope you have an awesome weekend. Thanks for all your support to my channel.🙏
Very nice, helpful. I usually find myself feeling like an ignoramus because I didn't grow up w church songs, and so I don't already have the hymnal memorized on the fretboard. I played the bars and clubs for like 10 yrs. I use a lot more maj pent scales than I used to, and I still get to use my bluesy-tasting "hammer from min 3rd to maj 3rd" that still sounds and feels really nice
All worship songs are new to me also. I’m learning how to better use triads to play rhythm and lead lines. Thanks for sharing some of your story! Talk to you soon Brother Brian 🙏
I play in church. Use to play in an 80's metal band. I also played country along with many other styles of music. All has made me a better player. I have refined my playing allot, but sometimes I do cut loose, but I don't go to far with it. It's not about me. It's for the glory of God. When I see someone who thinks Christian musicians aren't as good as secular ones. I prove them wrong, then explain , God gave me an ability, so I use everything in my bag to gloriify God through Christ. Without Him I can do nothing.
Well said! Thanks for sharing your heart here in this message! We always need to remember why we play in church. I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me! And without him we can do nothing. Thanks buddy.🙏
Sounds great. I always use lots of sus 2 and sus 4 chords when playing in church - most contemporary Christian songs call for those.
Cool! Thanks for checking out the video 🙏
Great video - subbed!
Thanks for subscribing to the channel! Good to see you here. Talk to you soon.🙏
Well done. It is ALL about the vocals, and specifically the congregation’s vocals.
Right on Robert! Thanks a lot man 🙏
Thank you sir.
great idea , Rusty! what a nice Düsenberg . I own a Bonneville Vintage . fantastic . by the way , we have the same hairdresser .😁have a nice weekend !
Cool! Awesome hairstyle!😂 And yes, I love that Duesenberg Guitar. Have a great weekend and thanks for checking out the video.🙏
@@RustysWorshipGuitar2 thank you, Rusty !
Excellent Rusty❤
Thanks mate! Cheers 🙏
Ok. I know I have questiond. This was a great lesson.
I never wanted to be a rock star. Just always wanted to play. So that is a gift, not my playing. The years of hours spent learning. The discipline to spend those hours comes from something better then me
That’s awesome, Timothy! I’m glad you have that gift and our sharing it! Blessings to you, my brother🙏
Lol, the differences between a rock and church guitarist.
Church guitarist-no Sabbath, Purple, Zeppelin, AC/DC licks. That's a real shame because I would love to hear the "War Pigs" solo slipped in somewhere. 😅
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P.S. I wish you didn't cut the very first solo short in this video, (old school rock guitarist). That was awesome! I love your playing, you're a really good instructor. I'm a believer also, but still love my secular classic rock and metal.
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I definitely still love that raw guitar sound of the 60s and 70s for sure. But in a church setting I just need to play what’s right and fits the song. I really appreciate your feedback. Good to hear from you and let’s talk soon.🙏
Great stuff. You gotta get good so you can hold back. That’s been my biggest mistake. I can’t shred. Haha.
I’m very subtle with lots of delay and verb and to the cleaner end of the spectrum.
Thanks! If you play from the heart, you can’t go wrong! I appreciate you checking out the video🙏
Greetings Rusty, and blessings to you for the lessons and insights.I play in Church and I am truly grateful for your Videos.I like the Sound of your effects and could you please kindly to state the names of your effects.I am a viewer from Trinidad and Tobago.Blessings to you and your family my brother in the Lord.🙏
Yes, I will get more in depth on the effects. I’m using. Thanks for checking out the video. Have a great weekend.🙏
The biggest difference is playing in a major key with major triad versus minor. Minor is the home of rock
Yes! Lots of major keys. And if it was a minor key, I would use more of the minor scale than the minor pentatonic. Thanks so much for checking out the video.🙏
Interesting this popped into my feed. I think the biggest difference is simply wanting to glorify God vs glorify yourself. Rock licks aren't bad and neither is rock tone. It is all about who we are worshipping and serving the song and teammates. As a side note; most contemporary worship music is simply pop music so rock stuff clashes really hard, in my opinion. The song writing is just so different.
Well said! I really like your thoughts! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment🙏
God bless Rusty, God is good all the time. 🙏
Right on James! Blessings to you and have a great Sunday🙏
Different vibes , really depends on the style , mood and what you want to express …. I think a good guitar player should be able to play all kinds of styles , sometimes you have to support a song , not being in the center or doing the ego thing …always remember … it’s not about you but about the music … connecting hearts and spirit
Hey John, you’re right there’s not a right or wrong way to play the guitar. For me I just wanna play what’s appropriate for the music. i’ve played guitar at my church for years and there’s a time to let loose and there’s a time to just be in the background. Thanks for checking out the video.🙏
Very nice lesson, very much appreciated I like the worship style, very pretty.
Thank you, my brother! It’s good to see you here and I appreciate all your support. talk to you soon.🙏
Guilty as charged. Old me was the minor pentatonic/heavy chuggin chords and chasing the "rock legends". Christ is now preeminent and worshipping him lowers all of us in our praise team to humble servants. I see the difficulty in the transitioning of many guitarist from club scenes to house of worship. If you crush a monster lick and the congregation is looking at you that may have been a major fail. My difficulties of transitioning were twofold. One. Getting over me. Two. understanding what glorifies Christ. If transitioning to Major scales and arpeggiated chords with less drive and more ambient tones satisfies the Lord then I am all in. And being part of a team that, together glorifies the Lord is an incredible opportunity. Although not a Methodist I can share a cool statement from John Wesley...."Sing lustily and with good courage."
Right on Robert! If our heart is right, we will play what’s appropriate for the song. No matter secular or worship. I’m getting quite a few negative comments about that. I’m sure it’s from people who don’t play in church though. Thank you again for the comment and let’s talk soon.👍
Love your guitar! Awesome msg about the intent and purpose for playing in the church. It is not for self nor a performance. God knows the heart! Keep not rocking in church!! 😊🙏
Thank you! I love that Guitar! That is the most important thing to focus on. Worshiping our father in heaven!!! I appreciate your message. Talk to you soon my friend 🙏
Hey brother this help me a lot u are awesome and God is my rock now
I’m happy to hear that the video was helpful Dennis! God is my rock also! Thanks for checking out the video🙏
Guitarists simply can't put the ego and spotlight away. The stage never seems to end..
That’s a tough one! Thanks for checking out the video 🙏
WHOA! WHOA! WHOA WITH THAT LES PAUL!!!
Is that even ALLOWED in CHURCH???
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Two of my main influences were Eddie Van Halen and Stevie Ray Vaughan. Neither are exactly right for church. Triads and the major scale are pretty much the church wheelhouse.
Good video, brother. 👍🏼
Those are two of the greatest players ever! It’s been a big transition, but I really enjoy serving the Lord with my talent! Thanks for checking out the video🙏
great video! again!
Thanks so much🙏
Thank you
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching🙏
This resonates well with me.
As I have been hosting jam sessions with various Church musicians of various skill levels I have been praying about how I can better direct and guide the direction purposeful playing.
With that in mind two words come to mind
"Cacophony" where playing and singing is to be heard.
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"Articulation"
Where play and singing is subject to the meaning of the song.
This would include both words and musical expression.
You mentioned some of these elements as related to the guitar.
I have some thoughts on this, but it seems like a very important issue that is not always covered.
Any other thoughts?
Hey Robert, it’s really all about the heart of why we play or sing. We all need to work at being conscious of the message and the mood of the song! Thanks so much for checking out the video🙏
Thanks for the reply.
After re-reading what I wrote seems like that articulation is something I need to apply to writing as well.
Sorry for being clumsy with my words.
What you are doing is a real blessing.
Thanks.
Worship guitar really does have another dimension to it 👍🎸
Yes, it does Derek! I’m still learning! Thanks a lot for checking out the video🙏
Sadly the drums and they are covered but not enough and hearing the guitar or bass is impossible unless the church gets electronic drums .
I can't hear in the church I go and I'm trying to hear them.
I get what you say about rock guitarist but I don't think all of them show off.
The sound person needs to make some adjustments. Thanks for checking out the video. 🙏
That is a beautiful duesenberg!
Hey Ron, I got that Guitar a few weeks ago and I love it! Thanks for checking out the video🙏