Yeah this is definitely cool I just wish people weren't charging $500 for old miniatures. I can't find any old space Marines or terrain at all and I bet that's because keeping it was so important back then
Im honestly impressed you to manged to stay sane whilst painting these. I still recall the rage induced whilst paint these little buggers 28 years later. Only good thing about them they survived being thrown aaalot :) Nice work mate !
@@ratty860997 Yes! Hahaha I totally feel your pain. Wasn't there a double dose of pointy in that edition, the high elves and goblin both had spears. I have a vague recollection of pulling one out of my foot once.
@@Eklipze3k That's the thing about Orks. Batch-painting shouldn't be too repetitive because it's encouraged for you to add individuality to every model.
I miss the days where I didn't care about shades and highlights, sniffing boltgun metal like it was not legal and every single model was based with goblin green. Simpler times.
Thank you for doing this. As a young and hopeless 10 year old painter when I first got into 40k with second edition, these paint schemes are what I aspired to and spent countless hours dreaming about while reading and re-reading White Dwarf. I never really managed to achieve anything close to these bright, awesome schemes but am grateful for the modern tools that I'm able to use now! I can't wait to see a classic Blood Angel painted up 2e style!
Now that battlereports will be kind of difficult to do, could you perhaps do a Video on Tablesetup and Terrain? Espacially for those smaller ~500 p games...
When you're sealing the sand on with the really watery PVA, add a single drop of washing up liquid into the pva/water. It'll break the surface tension and make it soak into the sand even easier. It'll also let you get away with a slightly higher PVA/water ratio which will help seal it down even harder.
This reminds me so much of my first glimpse into the Warhammer world when I was younger and seeing this video is a trip down memory lane for sure! Thank you :)
The fact that this boxed set is now a retro classic makes me feel very old. But man what great memories of slogging 30 of these guys across the floor covered in those out of the box ruins of my basement at 5 space marines. At 13 years old instantly fell in love. Still painting/collecting 27 years later. Gulp...27....
love this content! would love to see more nids, red chaos or even standard space marines. But you make everything enjoyable, im surprised you painted all 40 of these guys. definitely above and beyond
i actually have this box XD. it makes up the a good amount of my ork army. my dad bought it when they where brand new. its crazy how much models have grow.
Ever tried Army Painter Gunmetal? If your gripes with Leadbelcher are that the metallic bits are too big and chunky or the stupid flip top pot, Gunmetal has much finer metallic bits and comes in a dropper bottle. It's my personal favorite dark steel paint, and is £2 cheaper than Citadel.
@@kaminaalbarn Army Painter's Greedy Gold is amazing as well. Even after a mini has a matt varnish it still retains a great metallic shine without looking gloss.
I found this channel because i wanted to learn how to play the tabletop (btw, best tutorial ever). Stuck around for all the awesome content, well done!
I’m gonna have to get some of those paints, totally takes me back, I always have some issues if the modern citadel paints. Thanks for the video, that was truly a nostalgia bomb!
Cool video! My memories of the Citadel paints from the late '80s and early '90s (I think they are the previous generation to the ones Coat D'Arms are recreating) was that they were very transluscent and that fixing mistakes where a dark paint went over a light paint would often be very tough. Also I don't remember Chesnut Ink being as universally good as the Chestnut Wash you were using.
Ahh this is exactly what I was planning to do, even down to using the same coat d'arms paints!! You absolute legend, I'm even more excited to get to doing it now!
First warhammer boxed set i ever owned, was a xmas present for me and my little brother in 1993 - he took the space marines, i got the orks & gretchin - damn i loved those little guys
Got some retro vibes indeed. Miss these old fashion models. Got some model from old Ral Partha, Grenadier, Heartbreaker, and Games Workshop myself over the years. You just appreciate the classics. Great work sir.
For me it was the space marines from the 2nd edition starter box. Think i was like 10 years old or something like that. Coloured them like blood angels I believe, cause it looked cool. :D
Just a few days ago I’ve also painted 10 of these gretchin as sort of a comeback project. It’s awesome to see them done so nicely! Also, love the soundtrack at the end :D
I fondly remember painting these guys myself. Think I was 11. I sat myself outside in the garden on a hot summers day painting grots. Terrible for the paint but a great day!
I had to smile at the drilling the gun barrels. When I was asked why I take so much time doing eyes, pupils are important. My reply is always "If they don't have eye detailing, how will they see to fight?"
this along with the Imperial Knight video are my two favs of MM productions. the calm and simple narration makes it worth so much for me as a beginner.
Even though I didn't play 40k as a kid, my Mom did a lot tabletop gaming and I remember seeing these delightful older bright color schemes around in the game stores she went to. (I think some of the roommates my Mom had played it too) It's interesting being nostalgic for a game I didn't play tbh.
I still have a mid 90s warhammer box starter set with a bunch of orcs, and ultramarines and a box of gretchins too lol, u make me wanna dig them out of the loft and get back into it, retro style
Glad you posted this. Back when this box set came out, I traded with others and got around 200 Gretchen total, and they are still sitting there unpainted. Need to sit down and get those done. Thanks for the kick in the backside to get me started on those.
Thumbs up as soon as you showed the messed up details on the head. Such honesty deserves rewarding! (Of course if have liked it at the end anyway). This is all super relatable since I've been painting up some of these little guys (and with some of the Coat d'arms paints too.) As an originally 2nd Ed. 40k player the whole recent direction of this channel is highly pleasing!
I painted a few of these today. Also an orc with the axe and both space marines with the chain swords, was quite a trip down memory lane for sure weird painting stuff I havent painted since I was 7 lol.
With this co-19 I have been really Struggling with anxiety. I’m normally very social & competing a lot of sports but can’t at the moment. last Friday was the first time I had been in a games Workshop in 21yrs!!! To buy some Space marines & paint to keep my minds Busy Mum/Santa brought me the 2nd Edition in 98 I still remember that Christmas & the holiday Painting all those Orks 😁
Wow, what a trip down memory lane. The gretchin faces are pretty good actually considering when they were sculpted; their cheeky teethy smiles stand the test of time.
I have been waiting for this vid Grechin are so cool and the 90s paint is grate and thanks a lot l have just ran out of primer and have been borrowing my friends
I was never into the tabletop but my older brother was when I was a kid. When I was about 6 my brother had painted a huge army of Imperial Guard and put them on the window sill to dry. When he was out the room I tried to play with them and accidentally knocked them all on the floor. He was devastated. Ive never told this story to anyone but watching you painstakingly create this army has flooded me with guilt from 20 years ago. I'm so so sorry. Great video 👍
It is great seeing another revisiting the 90s GW games, I got an original 1993 Blood Bowl a few years ago, ironically just before they released the 2016 edition, and yesterday I got in the post, potentially one of their more niche games, 1997s Gorkamorka! I love your comment about noticing the smell and how it reminded you of that 90s painting.
I still have and use some of the old citadel paints. Bronzed flesh and spear staff brown among others. Great paints and still good as new. Love the video, serious blast from the past and the models look great in their retro colour scheme.
I just built a battlewagon and I'm hoping you paint one in the future. I followed a lot of your blackstone fortress painting guides when I first started painting a year ago and no channel comes even close to you and pete the wargamer when it comes to paint tutorials. It's either you, pete or watching a really long tutorial from duncan to really set the mood for painting. I love your content and thank you again for the music.
The little ring thing on the Grot Blastas are sling rings or saddle rings, you'll actually see them on the metal Autoguns of the period as well. There should probably be a leather or canvas strap connecting to a different part of the gun, but the GW weapon designers of the day, much like the modern day, really didn't understand how guns work, just look at the Rogue Trader era Bolters.
For gun barrels i found using a round ended bit (looks like a fluted ball) dremel bit in a pin vise does a great job of cleaning up strands and giving a nice dish for paint and washes to sit in.
Very nicely done! Even better was when a 20-grot squad would actually manage to drop a couple Space Marines a turn, because quantity is a quality all its own.
Now just paint the other 30 :-D Thanks to your video I just gathered the courage to start painting my Star Quest (Space Crusade) gretchins! 2 boxes of Star Quest.
The fact that you put each gretchin inside it's own grid square on your work mat speaks to me on a spiritual level.
Y'know, I don't think I realised I was doing it until one side was done, and I was like "ooh, you're a bit weird, aren't you?" hah
@@MidwinterMinis do you also keep all your bits in little labelled zip lock bags?
I do the exact same with Guardsmen. I just can’t help it.
@@MidwinterMinis To be honest, to do this kind of hobby most of us have to be a little bit odd and/or have at least a small amount of the OCD.
Hey man, is that Halfords paint specifically? Cheers
This is awesome!
Thanks matey! I'm glad Canadian me got a kick out of it ;)
Agreed
@@MidwinterMinis
Where can I get coat d’ arms?
@@theinquisitionsparrot6749 here you go www.blackhat.co.uk/product-category/coat-darms-paints/
Yeah this is definitely cool I just wish people weren't charging $500 for old miniatures. I can't find any old space Marines or terrain at all and I bet that's because keeping it was so important back then
Im honestly impressed you to manged to stay sane whilst painting these. I still recall the rage induced whilst paint these little buggers 28 years later. Only good thing about them they survived being thrown aaalot :) Nice work mate !
It's the worst thing about being an Ork player, especially - if you're like me - and absolutely HATE batch painting things xD
I mean, to be fair, I've only painted 10 so far! It seems impressive, but that's only 25% D-:
Ever stood on one of the bastards. These and the spear men from the fantasy game of the same era too. Pointy bastards.
@@ratty860997 Yes! Hahaha I totally feel your pain. Wasn't there a double dose of pointy in that edition, the high elves and goblin both had spears. I have a vague recollection of pulling one out of my foot once.
@@Eklipze3k That's the thing about Orks. Batch-painting shouldn't be too repetitive because it's encouraged for you to add individuality to every model.
I miss the days where I didn't care about shades and highlights, sniffing boltgun metal like it was not legal and every single model was based with goblin green. Simpler times.
More like this please, The 90s colour scheme pleases me on several levels.
Thank you for doing this. As a young and hopeless 10 year old painter when I first got into 40k with second edition, these paint schemes are what I aspired to and spent countless hours dreaming about while reading and re-reading White Dwarf. I never really managed to achieve anything close to these bright, awesome schemes but am grateful for the modern tools that I'm able to use now! I can't wait to see a classic Blood Angel painted up 2e style!
Now that battlereports will be kind of difficult to do, could you perhaps do a Video on Tablesetup and Terrain? Espacially for those smaller ~500 p games...
Yeah, that might be a nice idea for a quick video! Especially useful now :)
Or how Midwinter Minis would make numbered objective markers for games.
Yeah, I would 100% be down for that
Great idea!
Yea
Watching them line up in the grid at 0:57 was strangely satisfying.
Not as satisfying as actually doing it, haha
When you're sealing the sand on with the really watery PVA, add a single drop of washing up liquid into the pva/water. It'll break the surface tension and make it soak into the sand even easier. It'll also let you get away with a slightly higher PVA/water ratio which will help seal it down even harder.
Thanks for this I've just picked up a load of these miniatures for my son to practice painting on
Those orks look so civilized and neat in that gear almost had me fooled and think its some other race!
Mate, strip the already painted grots like a real man. Don't replace them; it hurts their feelings.
Oh, I will! :D
Not a fan of stripping minis myself, but that may have something to do with the fact that I can’t do it...
Has anyone had ussues with stripping black primer from citadel?
@@TheGuszilla $13 ultrasonic cleaner and 99c store AwesomO cleaner strips minis pretty quick.
@@TheGuszilla I use 99% isopropanol . It's not the fastest but it's easy on the plastic and cheap.
2nd edition. In my eyes, was the best. Love how colourfull the ork minis were.
I remember the cutting and scraping on these. Not horrible just tedious. THE FEELS!
This reminds me so much of my first glimpse into the Warhammer world when I was younger and seeing this video is a trip down memory lane for sure! Thank you :)
You should do a video on ork kitbashing. That's one of my favourite aspects about the orks.
I never painted in the 90s (was only born in 97!) But I used to watch my dad paint and the colours and names is still so nostalgic
Been painting some Epic minis in 90s inspired paint schemes recently. Love the bright colours. The only bit I'm not doing is the Goblin Green bases.
Umm, that's actually illegal! Haha
How heretical
I remember painting one of these guys for an in-store painting competition, a loooong time ago.
Yes always drill the barrels :)
The fact that this boxed set is now a retro classic makes me feel very old. But man what great memories of slogging 30 of these guys across the floor covered in those out of the box ruins of my basement at 5 space marines. At 13 years old instantly fell in love. Still painting/collecting 27 years later. Gulp...27....
love this content! would love to see more nids, red chaos or even standard space marines. But you make everything enjoyable, im surprised you painted all 40 of these guys. definitely above and beyond
I haven't managed all 40 yet, just the 10 in this video, but it WILL happen! :)
i actually have this box XD. it makes up the a good amount of my ork army. my dad bought it when they where brand new. its crazy how much models have grow.
I still have half a pot of GW's chestnut ink, great stuff
Brown gold!
This channel has been a great inspiration for me getting into the hobby again.
Thanks for the inspiration and good luck going full time!
I’m loving these coat d’arms paints, I’d love to pick up gunmetal, I’m getting really sick and tired of leadbelcher
Yeah, 2 pots pf Leadbelcher have gummed up on me in 5 years. Never again!
Ever tried Army Painter Gunmetal? If your gripes with Leadbelcher are that the metallic bits are too big and chunky or the stupid flip top pot, Gunmetal has much finer metallic bits and comes in a dropper bottle. It's my personal favorite dark steel paint, and is £2 cheaper than Citadel.
I'm a big fan of Vallejo metal colours for metallics
@@kaminaalbarn Army Painter's Greedy Gold is amazing as well. Even after a mini has a matt varnish it still retains a great metallic shine without looking gloss.
@@proxytag same, they are the bomb. Vallejo Model Air metallics are awesome as well
I swear I can smell that acrylic paint from the United States.
My Guard blobs . . . 75+ I know the circles of madness. I loved this throw back traditional piece of history.
Chestnut ink, Flesh Wash and Boltgun Metal are the holy trinity from the hobby past century.
Ha souvenir souvenir
Love how you went with the good old goblin green bases.
I found this channel because i wanted to learn how to play the tabletop (btw, best tutorial ever). Stuck around for all the awesome content, well done!
I’m gonna have to get some of those paints, totally takes me back, I always have some issues if the modern citadel paints. Thanks for the video, that was truly a nostalgia bomb!
Cool video! My memories of the Citadel paints from the late '80s and early '90s (I think they are the previous generation to the ones Coat D'Arms are recreating) was that they were very transluscent and that fixing mistakes where a dark paint went over a light paint would often be very tough. Also I don't remember Chesnut Ink being as universally good as the Chestnut Wash you were using.
Yeah, honestly, painting the black parts was one of the scariest moments of my life thus far, haha
Ahh this is exactly what I was planning to do, even down to using the same coat d'arms paints!! You absolute legend, I'm even more excited to get to doing it now!
Great timing! :)
I love those little dudes! They look so good! Make me want to go on eBay and get some for this lockdown.
Hard to stick with the Grim Dark future thene when painting such cute colourful models :) These were basically 40k clowns. Memories.
This video takes me back! It made me go "oooh" and "aaah" as I recognize every nook and cranny of that gretchin.
First warhammer boxed set i ever owned, was a xmas present for me and my little brother in 1993 - he took the space marines, i got the orks & gretchin - damn i loved those little guys
This takes me right back and has inspired me to get a group of 90's models together and give it a go.
Got some retro vibes indeed. Miss these old fashion models. Got some model from old Ral Partha, Grenadier, Heartbreaker, and Games Workshop myself over the years. You just appreciate the classics. Great work sir.
*You even included the blue backdrop*
God I love you.
Nostalgic overload! Please do all! With back banners and all!
Thanks! I'll try my best :)
Oh man... I remember my old gretchins... I started my 40k hobby in '99, and they were only available second hand and looked seriously old then!
One thing I realized by looking at those Minis is that not only the price increased since the 90s and maybe the minis quality too
That is awesome. Wow, roll back the years.
27 years! Crazy
Omg, those were the first ever models I painted😭
Me too! Haha
Me too! Had so many of them in the old 40k box :D
Me too
For me it was the space marines from the 2nd edition starter box.
Think i was like 10 years old or something like that.
Coloured them like blood angels I believe, cause it looked cool. :D
Just a few days ago I’ve also painted 10 of these gretchin as sort of a comeback project. It’s awesome to see them done so nicely! Also, love the soundtrack at the end :D
Thanks for the tip on boring out the barrels. I went on amazing and bought an airbrush cleaner right away!!
I fondly remember painting these guys myself. Think I was 11. I sat myself outside in the garden on a hot summers day painting grots. Terrible for the paint but a great day!
I had to smile at the drilling the gun barrels. When I was asked why I take so much time doing eyes, pupils are important. My reply is always "If they don't have eye detailing, how will they see to fight?"
Oh sweet ! I was following your updates on instagram ! Great to see the video !
Thanks for reminding me I need to post these buggers on Insta! Haha
This certainly looks like they were pulled right out of the book. Very well done.
The way these grots have the blue bands, and the orange-red bits of clothing, just makes me wanna kitbash Son Grotku, and his rival, Vegrotta
I’ve got the 2nd edition box in the loft that I keep meaning to get around to painting just for the nostalgia.
These guys look awesome
Nostalgia overload
this along with the Imperial Knight video are my two favs of MM productions. the calm and simple narration makes it worth so much for me as a beginner.
I love how u use the retro paints to give the complete retro painting experience
This was brilliant to see haha, gives me a bit of a flash back as these were the models that made me want to get into the hobby!
Glad you liked it Jade :)
Even though I didn't play 40k as a kid, my Mom did a lot tabletop gaming and I remember seeing these delightful older bright color schemes around in the game stores she went to. (I think some of the roommates my Mom had played it too)
It's interesting being nostalgic for a game I didn't play tbh.
Gretchin Goffs,... what an oxymoron, gotta love 90s WH40K.
Great video, hit me in the feels... I remember doing exactly this back in the day.... man I feel old...
I still have a mid 90s warhammer box starter set with a bunch of orcs, and ultramarines and a box of gretchins too lol, u make me wanna dig them out of the loft and get back into it, retro style
I can hear the joy in your voice when you talk about painting these minis. You'll have to imagine the smile on my face as I watch.
They are a great looking set with or with out paint. Can't wait to see how the rest come out.
Glad you posted this. Back when this box set came out, I traded with others and got around 200 Gretchen total, and they are still sitting there unpainted. Need to sit down and get those done. Thanks for the kick in the backside to get me started on those.
My favorite model holder is an upside down shot glass. You can buy them bulk at the dollar store and they are nice and heavy
Thumbs up as soon as you showed the messed up details on the head. Such honesty deserves rewarding! (Of course if have liked it at the end anyway). This is all super relatable since I've been painting up some of these little guys (and with some of the Coat d'arms paints too.) As an originally 2nd Ed. 40k player the whole recent direction of this channel is highly pleasing!
Do you ever keep the natural colors of the sand - I imagine traveling to different beaches and using the sand to make memento bases.
I painted a few of these today. Also an orc with the axe and both space marines with the chain swords, was quite a trip down memory lane for sure weird painting stuff I havent painted since I was 7 lol.
With this co-19 I have been really Struggling with anxiety.
I’m normally very social & competing a lot of sports but can’t at the moment. last Friday was the first time I had been in a games Workshop in 21yrs!!! To buy some Space marines & paint to keep my minds Busy
Mum/Santa brought me the 2nd Edition in 98 I still remember that Christmas & the holiday Painting all those Orks 😁
Wow, what a trip down memory lane. The gretchin faces are pretty good actually considering when they were sculpted; their cheeky teethy smiles stand the test of time.
I have been waiting for this vid Grechin are so cool and the 90s paint is grate and thanks a lot l have just ran out of primer and have been borrowing my friends
Sounds like you've got a good friend! :)
That brings back childhood memories. Exactly what I had back in the day. The smell of paints and all there names.
I was never into the tabletop but my older brother was when I was a kid.
When I was about 6 my brother had painted a huge army of Imperial Guard and put them on the window sill to dry. When he was out the room I tried to play with them and accidentally knocked them all on the floor. He was devastated.
Ive never told this story to anyone but watching you painstakingly create this army has flooded me with guilt from 20 years ago. I'm so so sorry.
Great video 👍
the best tutorial for a nice classic base, not even close
It is great seeing another revisiting the 90s GW games, I got an original 1993 Blood Bowl a few years ago, ironically just before they released the 2016 edition, and yesterday I got in the post, potentially one of their more niche games, 1997s Gorkamorka!
I love your comment about noticing the smell and how it reminded you of that 90s painting.
Pretty rad.
It would have been cool to paint 20 of them in a contemporary style to show the difference on identical models.
My other method of painting is "just get it done, go go go", haha
Aaahhh yes. Excellent job. Great memories. That 2nd ed set (and spacehulk) was my entry into 40k!
Thanks
I still have and use some of the old citadel paints. Bronzed flesh and spear staff brown among others. Great paints and still good as new. Love the video, serious blast from the past and the models look great in their retro colour scheme.
Great fun. Those Gretchin might not have the detail of modern miniatures but they do have character.
God I love just listening to you paint while I do school work or something like that
I just built a battlewagon and I'm hoping you paint one in the future. I followed a lot of your blackstone fortress painting guides when I first started painting a year ago and no channel comes even close to you and pete the wargamer when it comes to paint tutorials. It's either you, pete or watching a really long tutorial from duncan to really set the mood for painting. I love your content and thank you again for the music.
GooberTown Hobbies is rewatching this over and over again because it brings them massive amounts of joy to see gretchin love.
Thank you; this was a nice addition to my morning walk, Health and blessings to you 👍🏻
Awesome video and paint job on these, I'm actually painting these guys at the moment, quite fun to do really!
Nice shout out to Portobello Beach! The little dude turned out great.
halford spray paint for white base coat. yes used that a lot back in the day.
The little ring thing on the Grot Blastas are sling rings or saddle rings, you'll actually see them on the metal Autoguns of the period as well. There should probably be a leather or canvas strap connecting to a different part of the gun, but the GW weapon designers of the day, much like the modern day, really didn't understand how guns work, just look at the Rogue Trader era Bolters.
What do you mean, are you not supposed to hold huge rocket-rifles by their barrels? Haha
So happy to see this
Woo! Me too :D
For gun barrels i found using a round ended bit (looks like a fluted ball) dremel bit in a pin vise does a great job of cleaning up strands and giving a nice dish for paint and washes to sit in.
While the hobby is too rich for my blood, I really enjoy watching you paint minis!
I'm a simple man, I hear 'Edinburgh' and I like the video, Edinburgh represent!
OMG! chestnut ink! This channel is a nostalgia goldmine.
Major major happy retro vibes; amazing!! Please would you paint a Gretchen in a contemporary style to show the contrast? All the best x
I remember getting these guys from my dad a long time ago. I really enjoyed painting those as my first warhammer figures.
Ah.. this takes me back...
Would be interesting to see the same model in modern paints and techniques
ALL about the one-piece and push-fit minis. Looks awesome. Brilliant idea beautifully executed.
Very nicely done!
Even better was when a 20-grot squad would actually manage to drop a couple Space Marines a turn, because quantity is a quality all its own.
Now just paint the other 30 :-D
Thanks to your video I just gathered the courage to start painting my Star Quest (Space Crusade) gretchins! 2 boxes of Star Quest.
I recommend using acrylic medium with sand instead of PVA glue. I've had bad experiences with PVA, as it can cure, crack and come off the base!
Nice idea! Thanks :)
@@MidwinterMinis Love the videos. I finally started BSF during lockdown!
you can score the base in a criss cross with a knife first and it helps the pva adhere better
Adding a drop of dish soap to the 1 part pva+ 4 part water mix helps break the surface tension and make it flow even better into the sand
All of Halford primers are beautiful
The white and grey are 10/10