WABDR - Washington BDR Aug 2020 - 4 days in 12 minutes
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2020
- August 2020. Four days round-trip condensed into 12 minutes. Travelled from Arlington, WA to Stevenson, WA then north following the Washington BDR to the Nighthawk Canadian border crossing and back home to Arlington. A lot of fun on the big bikes. There were several cameras used resulting in discrepancies in the footage.
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Just found your report, excellent! I can tell you are all dirt bike riders. Attention street bike guys, get a dirt bike, learn to ride it before you tackle the dirt on these big bikes, you will have a lot more fun!
nice movie. great pictures. enjoying watching what you guys get up to. looks amazing
Great video! Got me all sorts of excited to go for this route on my VSTROM. Thanks for sharing!
That was one of the most beautifully edited BDR films I've seen. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the compliment. It is much appreciated. Happy trails!
Yeah. Edit is everything. Good job.
Fantastic WABDR Video, definitely the best bang for the buck I've seen. It will be my referral for those who want a taste of what the route is like. I read your comments so I know you mentioned you missed some things - I'm surprised the Beehive Washouts on Northern S#3 weren't there - they are definitely the most challenging part of the whole route for trucks. I also thought your vid of Baby Head Hill made it look tamer than it often is, especially the lower section - that's the part where I've seen motos struggle, especially big bikes. Didn't notice any footage on Umtanum Ridge but it's mosty notable for its desolation and that doesn't stick out as much after you've come down from the Nile section There was a notable washout North of Chelan a couple years ago. I suspect it has either been well repaired or it's simply not notable to a bike. Love seeing you guys out on the trails. ADV riders have balls of steel - probably from the beating they take! Was that drone a Mavic Air 2? Really nicely done video, I intend to follow to see more of your NW content. I agree with a commenter that some maps and maybe an occasional voice over would be nice touches but really one of the best quick videos of the WABDR I've ever seen.
Thanks for the comments. Mavic 2 Pro was the drone.
Thanks for the overview video. I'm hoping to ride the WABDR this summer. Looks like a lot of fun!
Great ride and outstanding footage and editing! Sharing with my friends for inspiration! Thanks for a great upload!
Glad you enjoyed our trip. I hope it inspires others to enjoy this beautiful route. Happy trails.
Great presentation! I did a movie on myself and friends tackling the Colorado BDR last June. WA is on my to-do list, looking forward to it. 👍
Mr. 18 subscriber here . Can't wait to ride my Tenere 700 on an adventure like this .
Very nicely done. Great video editing as well.
Thanks. I appreciate the compliment.
Well done. Congratulations on successful trip
During my travels I've been on sections of this route without really knowing it. Nice to see your video showing me the route so I could vicariously think I rode it. Definitely above my level of endurance particularly coming out of Ellensberg.
ive ridden most of the route the north half a few times anyway , i ride out of Wenatchee on Sundays , what do you ride ?
@@justsomedude445 BMW 2019 F850
@@greggk47 right on i just traded a '17 1090r for a Husky 901 , we live in dualsport/Adv bike paradise when the weather cooperates
@@greggk47 loads of good off roading between Ellensberg & Wenatchee through the Clockum over Swak pass through Liberty ect
@@justsomedude445 I started in Ellensburg up the Colockum Rd., missed the turn by power lines and was only saved by hunters who steered me straight. Colockum was worst road ever slanted downhill to a rut full of hardball sized rocks. Up hill slanted portion of road was embedded rock that kept bouncing you back to the rock filled rut. Another trip went to Liberty and followed NF 9712 and gave up just short of the landslide portion, that another rider said was doable. I agree with living in dual sport paradise but the 504 lb f850 is a lot tougher to manhandle than the 470 lb bikes you mentioned. My above comments were about my KLR riding days. Am I wrong about Colockum?
Well done!
Here I grew up in WA and instead rode 1100 miles of the ORBDR on a 450 KTM. Fun
I did section 1 & 2, need to complete the route in the future... I should have started ADV riding sooner.
Great video, I particularly like the drone footage. I'm looking at doing the WABDR in September. I currently have a Ducati Multistrada 950 Enduro, but i'd rather use a Dual Sport machine that's much lighter and nimble. I've seen alot of BDR video's of people crashing and fighting their bigger heavier Adventure bikes. I just sold my CRF 450R and I'm looking into purchasing a KTM 500 EXC-F or a Beta 500RR-S specifically for this kind of riding. Is there anything you wish you would have done differently to make your BDR experience better that you would advise others to do? Was it hard to find camping spots after Packwood?
Thanks for the compliment on the video. This is one of my first real efforts at editing one. We didn't record a lot of good things simply because we forgot to turn the cameras on. There's definitely a lot of room for improvement.
Regarding doing things differently; not much I can think of. It went quite well. In all honesty I probably packed too many items and brought too much food I didn't use. Stay hydrated - important! Keep an eye on fires, too. We were very fortunate. And camping was easy. There's a lot of space on the route, just pick a spot - doesn't need to be a campground. Thanks for watching and happy trails!
Great video! I thought about riding solo on Section 1 around summer. Is that section ok to ride solo in your opinion?
Definitely fine solo.That was probably the most mellow section. Just ride accordingly. Happy trails!
Great video, I grew up in Washington and riding the WABDR is definitely on my bucket list. How did it go on the big bike? I have a Ducati Multistrada Enduro so equivalent to the KTM 1290 in size.
The 1290 was excellent. Obviously more work than a smaller bike - but that's the fun of the challenge. Multistrada would be great if you have the skill and endurance. Good tires are a must. We used Motoz Rallz on both of the KTM's. Probably overkill, but they worked excellent and wore well.
Good stuff
Great video... Doing the Idaho BDR then going over and do the Washington BDR backwards down to Oregon. Do think that will be as much fun? It did not look that techy or was it?...Thanks!!!
WABDR wasn't bad. Just had to pay attention on some of it. Backwards might be easier with the exception of trying to climb the "Jungle" section. But there's a bypass for it.
You guys have ridden a time or two. A lot of folks struggle with the bigger bikes on stuff like baby head hill. Great riding and cool video! I’ve done the WABDR and I’d recommend checking out the Olympic Peninsula Discovery Route.
As a truck driver, Baby Head Hill in large bikes looks very challenging and where I've seen motos have the most trouble
@@TheKPDX Challenging indeed. I ride a TE610, so I’m looking at sub 400lbs with luggage. Those bigger bikes are pushing 600 or more. That’s a lot of bike to keep balanced and moving forward.
@@kenwolfe5697 The last time I was there we had to help a guy and his buddy get his big bike upright and on the trail again after a fall. We then trundled up and to my amazement they came up shortly thereafter. The guy with the big bike immediately dismounted, got down on all 4 fours and vomited until he was dry heaving. We made sure he was alright and then I topped off their water as I always like to offer (it's easy for me to carry excess and it's tough for you guys to carry enough).
@@TheKPDX That’s rough! I’m amazed when I see people on fully loaded beemers and the like riding on rough tracks. Also nice of you to offer water. You’re totally right. I carry 6l total and there have been times I had to start rationing it before hitting the next town. I carry a lifestraw as a last resort.
@@kenwolfe5697 I cut my offroad teeth in the SW where water is life. It’s ingrained in me to carry extra & easy enough to do in a truck. I admire the grit of ADV riders & enjoy the comraderie along the trail at vistas, etc. It’s an easy way to help out.
Cool vid. Enjoyed it.
What happened to the Africa Twin's front tire on the 4th day?
Pinch flat. Easy fix.
Great video!!! Looks like you guys were using phones for navigation. Curious what app(s) you were using. Me and the riding buddies are hoping to do sections of WA and ID BDR this summer.
Locus Maps on a Kyocera Duraforce PRO phone. Only used the phone for the GPS and turned everything else off. There's a long thread on the ADVrider forums about it if you want more info. Worked flawlessly.
Long read, but this will get you most of the info you need:
advrider.com/f/threads/ultra-rugged-kyocera-phones-gps-smartphones-my-guide.1206076/
Thanks for the inquiry.
Hi I've been watching the BDR videos and am eager to get to one. One question though: do you think that iPads are tough enough for use as a GPS monitor? I'd just like to have the maps a little larger than what can be seen on a phone. Thanks for any help.
iPad might be a little heavy on the mounts and may possibly get in the way. The roads are full of washboards and potholes. Pretty tough on anything mounted to your bars. That being said, use what makes you happy. If it doesn't work out, you'll have learned something for future rides. FYI, I used the Hondo Garage Perfect Squeeze mount with zero issues. Happy trails.
I need to get an adventure bike!
Does John Deere make an ADV bike?
how long have you guys been riding ADV bikes before the trip? I'm thinking about doing the NM BDR, but only with like two weeks of adv bike prep. I've owned many sport touring bikes, and done alot of mtb biking, so i feel ready for the dirt. But the maintence / repair and fitness aspect are unclear to me
We've all been riding since we were kids and on all sorts of of bikes. Between the three of us we've raced motox, hare scrambles, AMA road racing and the like. Given that, we did a lot of practice riding locally off-road on the ADV bikes before the trip. These bikes are a lot of work when it's not just simple gravel road. You need to respect the weight and power of the big bikes. Some practice on local trails that make you a bit uncomfortable is advisable. Just start out slow and work your way up. Having some instinctual skills and familiarity with your machine will help when the day gets long and you're fatigued - which is generally when things go wrong for me personally.
Which one of the bikes do you think worked best for this BDR and for most. I have a R1250GS Adventure but I think I want to outfit a lighter/smaller bike to do the BDR’s. Your opinion?
All three were fantastic. Just depends on what you're comfortable with. General rule of thumb says lighter is better, though.
@@flyingmunki9546 since making that post I purchased a KTM 890 Adventure R for the BDR rides. I haven’t done one yet but that’s my plan
@@PapaDougsAdventures01 Awesome choice! I did the same. Procured a 2021 890 ADV. Much more manageable machine. I am really enjoying mine and find myself riding it with more confidence and in tougher spots than on the 1290R. We're actually planning for the ID BDR this coming summer. Looking forward to that on the 890. Congrats on your new ride, hope you enjoy it.
@@flyingmunki9546 I live in Eastern Washington(Spokane) near the Idaho border. If you do the IDBDR from north to south and want a riding partner count me in.
I'm quitting my job the last week of May coming up. I'm planning on taking anywhere between 3-5 months to do several BDRs. I have a '18 AT and I'm kitting it out with all kinds of addons for the trip, Altrider crash bars/skidplate, aftermarket pegs, and the pretty much Mosko Moto's entire line. I'm feeling like my bike is just where it should be at this point.
I'm trying to figure out the best way to navigate, is it as simple as downloading the GPX files to your smartphone and the magic happens? I've seen some guys have a Garmin device too, but holy hell that cost some serious $$$.
I'm pretty new to the whole offroad/ADV scene. I'm pretty inexperienced. Am I biting off a bit more than I can chew to do this BDR? I plan to take my time and take it slow. Any advice would be very much appreciated.
Killer video man, stuff like this is what gets me HYPED.
For Nav I used a Kyocera Duraforce Pro phone (not the 2 version) and downloaded the available GPS tracks from the BDR website. App was Locus Map. Worked flawlessly. There's a lot of info about it on the ADV Rider forums. One of those runs around $100 on eBay. Hondo Garage mount held it in place without a hitch. A humble bit of advice for a newer rider - don't overload the bike. A heavy overloaded bike raises the CG and becomes difficult. And the more add-ons you have, the more stuff there is to break. The roads are rough and will beat the heck out of things - especially if the products aren't well made. Pick the easier BDR's first (WA isn't too bad), do some off-road riding locally prior to a long trip and you'll get the hang of it. Happy trails!!
@@flyingmunki9546 Hey thanks a lot for the thoughtful reply. I'll check out that app and do additional research! I'm going to try my best to only bring the essentials, only bringing my 35L panniers and my 40L mosko duffle/pack for luggage. A question in regards to the phone. Do you need to have cell service with a carrier for it to work as a GPS device? I'm thinking that is an obvious yes lol, but just want to confirm.
No cell service required. There was no service on a lot of that route. You will download the maps into the phone through the app, import your tracks and use only the satellite antennas. Shut the cell phone and everything else off, which you won't need and will let your battery last longer. Mine would run almost a full day before I had to plug it in. I never activated it as a phone, just bought it for navigation.
Long read, but this will get you most of the info you need:
advrider.com/f/threads/ultra-rugged-kyocera-phones-gps-smartphones-my-guide.1206076/
Hey Victor. If you are not too far from the east Coast, consider the mabdr as your first. Not too technical and a great way to get your feet wet.
I would be riding solo. What is a good time of year around there.
Late June through September is probably best. Watch the weather and fire reports.
so you can ride the entire WABDR south to north in 4 days or less?
Yes. Some guys do it in 24 hrs or possibly less.
A few shots of a map would have been useful to see where in WA you were, add in some voice over as well
Agreed, but then others complain that there is too much talking and static info. Plus this was easy for my first run at editing a long vid. Thanks for the input. Happy trails.
@@flyingmunki9546 thanks for your reply. I get it’s a fine line to try and please a wide audience in social media. Also, I understand the challenges of filming and editing, so any complaints or feedback should be taken with a grain of salt. That’s UA-cams platform really, for folks like us to create, post (publish) and view like minded videos 👍🏻 keep up the good work, and ride safely. I live in North Idaho and ride a Pan America 😎🤙🏻
@@flyingmunki9546 It was fine without voiceover. Lets us just focus on the ride.
What’s the furthest stretch between gas stations. Looking to do this in 2024 on a husky fe501s, currently get about 100 miles out of a tank. 2.2g, going to be upgrading to a 3.9 so should get about 150/175 miles
Packwood to Ellensburg was the longest stretch at 122 miles. You'll probably want to carry some extra fuel for that section and in just case you get "diverted" on other routes. There's a great map at ridebdr.com/wabdr/
You can download the GPS Tracks file from that page into your device of choice. We used it and it worked flawlessly.
Thanks for the question and have a great trip.
@@flyingmunki9546 awesome, thanks for the info
What camera were you using to film with?
GoPro 7 and 8, and some version of a SENA helmet cam - no idea what that one was.
What gas station is that in arlington?
None of the gas stations in the vid are in Arlington. The first one shown is in Packwood. If you're referencing the one towards the end, it's in Conconully.
And what drone?
Mavic 2 Pro. It had trouble tracking us. I've since purchased a Skydio 2 and it tracks moving objects much better.
I’ll take the reliable AT any day.
None of the bikes had any mechanical issues. They're all great scoots. Thanks for the comment!
Planning to ride it next summer. Is it easy to do a couple sections in a reasonable day?