Top 3 BIGGEST Adventure Motorcycle Off Road Mistakes | How To Correct Them
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
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In this weeks Adventure Motorcycle off road riding technique tip we are taking a look a the top 3 mistakes most riders make when they start riding their adventure motorcycle off road.
Taking your adventure motorcycle off road to explore new trails is one of the main draws to riding ADV bikes. Mastering the fundamental riding techniques of riding an adventure motorcycle off road will make your life on the trails A LOT easier.
Here are the top 3 mistakes we see riding adventure motorcycles off road:
1. Standing up position.
2. Inconsistent throttle control.
3. Taking your feet off the foot pegs.
If you are able to avoid this three main mistakes you will have a much better ride and build confidence quickly.
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Not really a beginner here and often real critic on a lot of utube tips and tricks… not the case here, all true and proper. Well done!👍🏻😊
Thank You 🙏🏼
Great great great video my friend. I just panicked and let my feet off the pegs, fell and hurt myself for absolutely no reason. Simply looking ahead, holding pace steady and keeping strong grip with the bike would have saved me two days of pain... Listen to those three commandments guys! And wear good protective gear. It literally saved my ankle.
Great to see a tutorial where the bike has the kind of tyres that many people use: road biased ones. It is always easy to fault your equipment rather than your technique, but this video clearly shows that technique matters so much more than tyre choice even in semi sandy conditions. Great tips! Thank you!
Just love you man! Never miss a second of your video!
I would only add that when approaching and first entering sand, add a little throttle to lighten the front tire. Here in Az, we ride sand on almost every off road ride. We have a saying that there is no problem on the trail that a little extra throttle can't fix. - when in doubt, gas it..... This is especially true in sand. Keep the front tire on top of the sand by standing on the pegs, pulling up and back on the handlebars, and keep adding throttle as needed. In deeper sand and longer washes, we move our butt back like a downhill racer and let the front tire ride like a ski, using our body weight to guide and turn the bike while keeping on the throttle.
Your explanations are the best! Ive been an ADV rider for a year now and I’ve become a much better rider thanks to your videos!
I'm a newbie dual sport rider and I'm glad I've been seeing and telling myself to avoid some of this stuff on my own, so I really appreciate the confirmation. I've definitely found taking my feet off the pegs is rarely useful and dumping the throttle, especially in first, is often more harmful than helpful. It seems very important to choose the right line, stay loose on the bike and to know when too little speed is detrimental. I've been out on solo rides 3 times now and I've recorded each one and it's really cool seeing my progress from crawling around terrified to being much more confident and aware of my limits.
Thanks for the tips. Makes sense.
Excellent instructions!
Excellent instruction. Thank you. Really enjoy the big bike/adventure bike instruction.
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Love these videos
Thanks!
Thank You!!!
Thank you sir for an excellent informations about our positions when riding in difficult terrains well said leant a lot
Thank you, I have not even done gravel roads yet, but I am planning to do so. This is valuable to me. Watched this twice.
Thanks for watching! You are going to love it once you start riding off road.
Thanks.. great information for a old 78 rider who struggles off road
Thanks for watching! What do you struggle with the most when you go off road?
@@SedlakOffroadSchool the standing issue and balance. I moved from a TW 200 to a New Himalayan, on really bad logging roads I guess I get a bit to slow and then the balance is Dre comes into play..thanks
Thanks for this. I have a KTM 790 Adventure S and it's (I'm) terrible in the sand. In fact I avoid any trail where I've encountered sand because I'm scared of it. Your riding was a revelation to me.
great video once again love your videos
Thank You very much!
Thanks a lot. Very valuable tips.
Thank You 🙏🏼
Excellent... thanks for the great instruction.
Gord
Great tutorial.
Thank you!!
Very good explanation of sand riding! I've been taught to chop the throttle repeatedly to maintain control in sand but didn't work that great, your style of consistent small throttle changes seems a better way to keep control. Thanks!
Thanks Jim! Yes, being consistent on the throttle brings so much stability to the bike.
Don't forget that you have a left hand too, learn to use the friction zone and become your own traction control.
For pretty much any enduro style bike, consistent rpm is key for sure. I can tractor through stuff that if I tried to accelerate, I would just sink.
Great video! Subscribed!
Thank You!
Great video! Thank you
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Great piece of content, very informative......S.F.A.
Thanks for this knowledge sir, it works so well.
Love from india.
Good stuff!
thx
S
Glad you liked it! 👍🏻
Amazing tips. Thanks so much for sharing. Alessandro 🇧🇷.
Thanks for watching 👍🏻 I was just in São Paulo. Would be very interested in doing some ADV training in Brazil in the future 🇧🇷
@@SedlakOffroadSchool It would be great!
Valuable tips sir, forward vision is the most important. I once fell due to panic .
On black ice surface I often spread my legs off the pegs on up and down gradient. Apply mild steady throttle input in up and engine brake in down . It worked. Actually on black ice the wheels wobble a lot.
Kindly advise how to control bike confidentiality on black ice surface 🙏
Like most riding, the general concepts still apply... smooth inputs, trust your bike, and don't PANIC
非常有用的演示，謝謝。
Thank you so much 🙏🇮🇳
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Thank You for watching! Looking forward to coming back to India later this year 🇮🇳
Thanks for the video! What are you running for tires? And any feedback on them?
Thank you for your valuable advice. On my tenere 700 I have difficulty tightening on the right side for the presence of the crankcase that is very hot how can I solve
for me it was very usefull informations 👍👍
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
great stuff , what crash bars do you have on that bike ?
Awesome tios, Can you pleasesuggest some tips for short riders
Very niceeee and usefull video
Thank You! Glad you liked it 👍🏻
Luv it
Thanks for watching 👍🏻
New to off road. I am 63, always road from back in the day, RD350 2 stroke, RZ500, 2stroke, Honda 550, Honda 750, Kawi Z900, Yami 900 XJ, Kawi 1300, Kawi Z1000, Yami, R1. Always sport bikes. Now at 63, I am loosing my mind and decided off road is the right thing to do. Going senile. Part of my bucket list. Triumph 900 Rally pro. LIFE IS A JOURNEY, ENJOY THE RIDE. Thx mate.
Great video! Would you make any adjustments for someone who is 6’2” ?
Not the creator but I am in your situation as well, I found using risers/offsets bring people our height into the same area as shorter riders for position. Would be rad if bar manufactures made different bar widths for us to cut as in MTB as that helps people like us in that discipline as well.
Whats also important is picking the right line so that your front hits obstacles at the right angle. If you hit a rut at an angle p, the front will surely be destabilised and that is hard to recover from, but if your line hit a rock or log straight on, you can power over it without much drama
That is a common fallacy. It is not possible to cross an obstacle at 90˚ every time, so it is more important to learn how to cross at the lesser angles. A slight blip of the throttle and feather the clutch to raise the front wheel a couple inches makes a world of difference on how the bike will react to the obstacle. Enduro racers hardly ever alter their line to cross obstacles. They lift the front wheel just enough and they use their body to safely go over the obstacles. Check out IRCTires channel for how to do it properly. It is much easier than you think. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=irc+tire+guy
@@briangc1972 ok cool Ill try it!
Sand is a nightmare to my off road rides. In this video the sand is quite packed after the rain so no trouble but in deep and dry sand I tend to panic a bit. I'm focused on improving my body position and it's been quite useful those tips, especially standing up. I had no background when started off road 3 years ago and never had a chance to try a dirt bike to date. It's all due to try and error thing on a big bike, tough at moments rewarding the others but I never regreted to left the tarmac behind. Cheers buddy! Thank you for helping the community
Sand is definitely one of the most difficult things to ride on an ADV bike. It should dry out quickly so we’ll make a video of really soft san riding soon. Glad you are enjoying the off road riding so much. Keep it up and the confidence will come 👍🏻
@@SedlakOffroadSchool Another rider seduced by the 550lb "Adventure Bike" advertising!
Sand is always tough on 2 wheels, it even throws me on a dirt bike because to be successful you really just have to go for it! If you stand up and go for it it's not bad, but it's super easy to psych yourself out!
Hope this helps: Here in Az, we ride sand on almost every off road ride. We have a saying that there is no problem on the trail that a little extra throttle can't fix. - when in doubt, gas it..... This is especially true in sand. Keep the front tire on top of the sand by standing on the pegs, pulling up and back on the handlebars, and keep adding throttle as needed. In deeper sand and longer washes, we move our butt back like a downhill racer and let the front tire ride like a ski, using our body weight to guide and turn the bike while keeping on the throttle.
@@SedlakOffroadSchool 😊
tried my new bike in sand....made all three of them :-), thank you
I'm always sketched out going down hill turns on muddy roads like we have in the PNW a lot. Constant back and forth body position and clutch work. Tips for that to help prevent washouts or ride it the same as you'd a downhill MTB?
What bike are you on? Slippery downhills are always difficult on ADV bikes because they push the front end a lot especially when you are going slow. Make sure to transfer your weight properly by dropping your heels. That will have your knees and hips further back on the bike and then you keep your chest forward to bring some traction to the front end.
When you are out riding on a dry day you should practice dragging your front brake going downhill. That will help compress the forks a little bit and give you more traction on the front tire. You just have to be really gentle on the front brake because if you lock up you will lose the front end. It’s a great technique for downhills once you get comfortable with it.
@@SedlakOffroadSchool On the new KLR Adventure. Ride a lot of mossy/stick strewn clay based terrain. Makes sense, with DH MTB, we'd 'let 'er buck' under us, but that's also 450lbs lighter than this rig.
Wouldn't trail braking the front on a loose over hard pack while leaning cause a low-side? (Thinking traction circle) I mean if the front steps, that's fine but risk here for us is off the road and down the mtn.
Maybe I have extra long legs, but I have to bend my knees a lot just to be able to reach the handlebars while standing. I'm going to try some risers to see if it helps.
Excellent video. Would you Consider making a video about lofting the front tire when going over obstacles.
Thank You! Yes, it’s on the list of upcoming videos. We will have that one out within the next month.
Show me on you're bike the skills you're talking about. Demonstrate. This is what makes a great instructor.
We have a lot of videos on the channel where we break down the different techniques 👍🏻
I have road racing experience on my R3. But Zero dirt experience. I'm 28 and now I want to travel the world on an adventure bike. Should I be worried about the fact that my first ever dirt experience will be on a 400-550 lb. pig? I wan to buy a bike that can do it all and travel the world. But I don't know if I'm setting myself up for failure by starting on such a heavy bike.
thanks y'all. still gotta work on that body position
Thanks for watching! What brand ADV bike do you ride?
@@SedlakOffroadSchool I have a Tenere 700 and a WR250R. It's crazy what the Tenere will do but I really getting into places I shouldn't have been so I got the WR. Love getting out offroad and exploring and practicing.
Now, take us through a heavy bike on terrible single track with right turns, seriously, on top of that on a DRZ with stock gearing.
So true 😂
Hi I test rode a crf300rallly and tried standing up… my immediate concern was I felt I lost all contact with the controls other than the throttle… the levers were at an awkward angle to reach and standing on pegs with balls of my feet meant I lost ability to use rear brake or gear selector… what’s the fix/trick to this?
So... 1.Posture 2.stable on the throttle and chassis 3.and look ahead?
Bro which bike are you riding?
My 3 most common mistakes for adventure riders I see are No1 they buy the biggest bike thinking big will compensate for skill No2 riders think if they have the latest and greatest of everything will compensate for skill No 3 new adventure riders see skilled UA-cam presenters on UNLOADED adventure bikes ripping around the bush with ease in the real world on loaded bikes it's not so easy
These "Adventure" bikes soon turn into "Nightmare" bikes off -road for most riders
Too tall and too heavy!
A lot of new riders don’t know what bike will be best for them, so when they go into a dealership and talk about their riding goals they get sold the biggest ADV bikes out there.
With more smaller bikes becoming available it will make for an easier entry for new riders. The other thing is that riders underestimate the learning curve of riding off road on these bikes. It takes seat time to get comfortable and a little investment in some training to know how to take full advantage of an ADV bike.
@@SedlakOffroadSchool And of course they see videos of BMW's and KTM's factory riders riding these monsters. The best riders in the World.
These guys can do things you and I never will be able to do! Danilo Petrucci is these new rider's hero, and their worst enemy!
If you need to sift or change hears quickly how are you able to do that if youy on the balls of your feet? Yhanks mate😊👍
start with a small trail or dual sport bike. You will have more fun, be safer and learn faster.
what frame guards are these?
The Zeta guards
🙏🏼 Thank You very much for all the positive comments and questions. It’s fun to engage with everyone here and to learn more about your riding and the problems you come across when riding off road.
Please let me know other riding tips you would like to see and we will get the camera out and get them done 🎥
I'm always happy to see anything ADV/Offroad related. Never know what you might learn. BTW loose that centre stand man! Bloody thing was designed to brake legs.
Yeah, I’m 53, and I’m returning to the off-road world, this time with my wife together (on my motorcycle) 😅. It would be great some riding tips for riding couples.
Daniel, could you make a video on where to and how you look ahead when riding? I personally find this difficult on steep climbs forgetting to lift my eyes when it gets technical.
Tried to climb a rocky trail up a hill
on my KLR. Been up that hill many times on my KX 450. Found out why they are called ADVENTURE BIKES.🤣
How does an expert rider get an inappropriately heavy adventure bike across difficult terrain? Everyone could do it on a little hopper. But how do you transfer the skills to a heavy bike, and which ones? (Some probably not transferable?)
These are great advice but it makes me wonder, do ADV people not ride dirt bikes?
A lot of ADV riders come from a street riding background with very little or no off road experience.
any exercise videos? 🙃
At high speed going into whoops we would brake while still using the throttle, it can help with side to side swapping..not good semper fi
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I question a bit the logic of trying to control the bike. On a sub-400 pound bike that makes sense but with a 500+ pound ADV bike you have to pick a line and it will go where it wants. Trying to control those big bikes will just wear you out.
Especially the heavier bikes you want to control as much as you can. The more predictable the bike becomes the less you have to hold on and wear yourself out. So it’s safer and you conserve a lot of energy. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
You have to use your body weight and not the bars. As he said, you can't muscle a 450 pound bike through the handle bars. Stand on the pegs and use your body weight. It is easier than you think. Of course, you have to be relatively fit and able to move.
can't figure out what your selling
Number one , posting of Facebook that you are on a trail when you are actually on a 2 track road easily accessed by a Subaru
😂😂 so true. I always say “makes you feel like a real badass when a Prius roles by you”
@@skipole09 Makes you feel like a bad ass UNTIL the Prius rolls by.....🤣
Right! I feel like people underestimate how much a basic sedan can actually get through with decent tires and the right skills lol
I’ve been in a 600hp Forester. I would love to see one of these bikes keep up on a rally course. It would make for a great conversation and UA-cam video.
@@edsonroadmoto I'd enjoy watching that.
Traveling in High Speed while you are not Familiar with the Terrain? That is MESSTAKE!
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Mistake #4... Stopping and parking your bike in the middle of the trail. Always move off to the side to take a break or make a video.
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1. They bought a bike
2 they bought a bike
3 they bought a bike.
Noobs what else to say. Lol.
The biggest mistake is falling for the marketing bs & going large. Large ‘adventure’ bikes don’t make for great off-road machines. Then there’s this persistence of pushing high tech into every facet of their operation which can only spell disaster for anyone seriously considering going off the beaten track when a sensor or two starts malfunctioning (which they will). No thanks.
No..
#1 mistake is riding a 400-500lb bike off road!
Not a mistake if you have the skill. I would recommend starting much smaller if you have no or limited dirt experience.
First mistake is buying an adventure bike.
As a dirtbike rider ('91 XK500 I bought new) who hasn't ridden dirt in a long time (lived for many years where there was almost no access) new to "ADV" riding (2021 KTM 890 ADV R), I TOTALLY disagree with the "knees-locked/standing straight up" posture I see on ADV guys, even when they're riding on the pavement. I stand like that only on occasion on really flat or paved sections only to stretch my legs. Standing straight up like this your CG is a LOT higher than if you're sitting or squatting with your butt maybe 1' off the seat. FACT. I've modeled it in CAD to prove it to a doubter. Look at MX guys, or competitive horse racers. Do THEY stand straight up with knees locked when they're hauling @ss? Nope. I sit, saving energy until something comes up where I NEED to get in the low squat position. If your knees are locked they are NOT helping with the suspension, and your CG is higher. I've seen guys go over or almost go over the bars when they hit something standing up like that. Yes, the low squat position is MUCH more tiring on your thigh muscles, but it's a better position for riding difficult terrain.
If your of the peg's your out of control
Thanks for the tips. I'm 6'7" with most of my height coming from long legs. When I straighten my legs like you do in the example, I'm way above the bars so have to lean way over and have my hips back. So I end up crouched like you said not to do. I have 3 inch bar risers and lowered pegs, which help, but not enough.
Cool story bro.
@@UhYeahWhateverDude but yours is so much cooler bro...