Going through the video, so the comment will be updating: Premise - I love GRFS and I'm also a sucker for the original 2001 game, which was my first tactical shooter. 1) movement: the movement in console GRAW was stiff and dull, Future Soldier is one of the best TPS cover shooters to have ever existed. I can see your point with it not belonging to the series...(I'd say more to a part of the series, since I'd love to see a GRFS 2 someday, with a more high-octane, intense fighting base rather than ONLY tactical based GRs (even if done well). But that's me, because I love shooters that involve concious movement. 2- Futuristic gear is a staple of the GR series IMO, you win a 4 on 30 because of the gear (not really realistic, but hell isn't it fun?) 3- I agree that unfortunately allied AI and mission approach in GRFS was poorly conceptualized when it comes to SP, I've never tried coop campaign tho. 4- I get the "Russian ultranationalists" part, but hey think it company-wise, not really a smart idea to risk a lawsuit from a state (look at what happened with Wildlands). Plus: to me it felt genuinely good when in the last missions I had to help democratic russian forces which are trying to stand up and fight against RR. 5- small correction: the missile doesn't hit the tower, it's merely intercepted during flight just above the city by what in the lore was a missile shield defense system. Conclusion: I get part of your points, don't agree with some, but that's cool man. IMO ubisoft should get the best of both worlds and make both fast paced GRs and (way) more tactical games akin to the original. FS as I said is my favourite TPS ever, so I come biased by that, but especially on pad it was fire and controls were well-thought and placed. MP was fantastic and Guerrilla mode too. A part that I think you didn't put in the review was Gunsmith. In 2012 it was ahead with MoH Warfighter in this role and caught the right balance between gameplay options and elements at disposal (unlike new CoDs).
@@alessioprincipe2304 Nah, its all good man lol! This is the kind of comments i love, even if we don't see eye to eye. I enjoy that there can be a calm discussion over the game. And hearing your point of view can genuienly help me become a better content creator
@@Kyanpepper25 love to see creators trying to actually get better. Rare skill in those dark times. And, I know it's off topic, but have you ever tried by any chance tabletop RPGs?
@@alessioprincipe2304 Ofc! and you're right dark times man. And Yes and no, have i played DND with my friends? Yes I have! have I played a digital rp game like WoW, Diablo (idk if those counts) or Balder gates 3? no i haven't
@@Kyanpepper25 GRFS had the superior gameplay, cover mechanics, animations, and while the story was basic, it still felt grounded and realistic. GR:W and BP had a cool open world, but the gameplay was a massive downgrade.
@@vlima7164 While i do agree that it was more grounded, i don't like the gameplay as much, felt to arcadic for GR. But I do agree Wildlands and Bp are still not vary good games, with their host of problems, that in many cases makes Future soldier look better.
I bet it was awesome! Thats the one thing that does bother me, I didn't have anyone else who had the game to play it on co-op. I bet I would've had more fun!
Everyone is allowed to be wrong... (I love it because it was my first ever action shooter, i didn't even heard of the series before YEARS after playing GRFR, but its still my favorite ghost recon i played (compaed to the new ones)
I agree with that statement, reflects on how i feel when i hear people call GRFS a good game. Tbh, I understand your perspective cause its the same way i feel about the first GR game. I played it a lot as a kid and i really enjoyed it, so future soldier bothers me because it feels way more dumbed down, to me at least, than the original games. I appreciate the calm response! (only one day in and i already had to delete comments of ppl telling me to km :) )
@@Kyanpepper25 Yeah, I honestly just like fun games, no matter if they are good Ffs i play Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts which is a Bug filled shit of a game... but is still one of my favorite games (Also, this is internet, would you really be succeding if at least 10% of people didn't want you dead? :D
@@jixdl Yea I saw that on your channel, I thought it was war thunder for a second Also. That last part really got a laugh out of my XD No, I guess not lmao
Imagine if ghost recon was a crab, and ubisoft decided that the crab has to compete in a lobster contest. I've decided that this comparison is bad. Good vid 👍
How have you not played gears of war? Thats a kin too not playing halo or zelda. I wouldn't trust a movie critic that hadn't seen the godfather or citizen cane.
Funnily enough this was the most sold Ghost Recon since GRAW, meanwhile Wildlands and Breakpoint are the laughing stock of Ghost Recon history... "Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier was a success for Ubisoft in the first quarter of 2012, with sales increasing 27.2% from the previous year to around $160 million. Console sales were higher than expected, and the game was the best-selling console game in the United States in May and June." (Never heard of GRAW let alone the sad sandbox titles selling a console by reputation alone. And this report comes from Xbox magazine...ya know, the same time Halo 4 released) You know what's truly disappointing? The current sandbox style of Ghost Recon and HEAVY lack of a successor to the Splinter Cell series...And you're calling this jewel trash when all people want are the MP days of this and GRAW.
As much as I do dislike the crappy "open worlds" GR games, Hyper linear ones are just as bad. It has no creative or tactical freedom. As I stated before, Ghost Recon was all about tactical freedom, and letting you handle objectives however you want, and command your squads to achieve them. Call me old school, but i much rather prefer the original Ghost Recon Vs this game, and day of the week.
Going through the video, so the comment will be updating:
Premise - I love GRFS and I'm also a sucker for the original 2001 game, which was my first tactical shooter.
1) movement: the movement in console GRAW was stiff and dull, Future Soldier is one of the best TPS cover shooters to have ever existed. I can see your point with it not belonging to the series...(I'd say more to a part of the series, since I'd love to see a GRFS 2 someday, with a more high-octane, intense fighting base rather than ONLY tactical based GRs (even if done well). But that's me, because I love shooters that involve concious movement.
2- Futuristic gear is a staple of the GR series IMO, you win a 4 on 30 because of the gear (not really realistic, but hell isn't it fun?)
3- I agree that unfortunately allied AI and mission approach in GRFS was poorly conceptualized when it comes to SP, I've never tried coop campaign tho.
4- I get the "Russian ultranationalists" part, but hey think it company-wise, not really a smart idea to risk a lawsuit from a state (look at what happened with Wildlands). Plus: to me it felt genuinely good when in the last missions I had to help democratic russian forces which are trying to stand up and fight against RR.
5- small correction: the missile doesn't hit the tower, it's merely intercepted during flight just above the city by what in the lore was a missile shield defense system.
Conclusion:
I get part of your points, don't agree with some, but that's cool man. IMO ubisoft should get the best of both worlds and make both fast paced GRs and (way) more tactical games akin to the original.
FS as I said is my favourite TPS ever, so I come biased by that, but especially on pad it was fire and controls were well-thought and placed. MP was fantastic and Guerrilla mode too.
A part that I think you didn't put in the review was Gunsmith. In 2012 it was ahead with MoH Warfighter in this role and caught the right balance between gameplay options and elements at disposal (unlike new CoDs).
Honestly, the first comment that genuinely defended the GRFS!
It was a joy to read this and see why you enjoyed the game! Thank you for the comment!
@@Kyanpepper25 you're welcome, pal. Thanks for reading it all and sorry for the wall of text, LOL.
@@alessioprincipe2304 Nah, its all good man lol!
This is the kind of comments i love, even if we don't see eye to eye. I enjoy that there can be a calm discussion over the game. And hearing your point of view can genuienly help me become a better content creator
@@Kyanpepper25 love to see creators trying to actually get better. Rare skill in those dark times.
And, I know it's off topic, but have you ever tried by any chance tabletop RPGs?
@@alessioprincipe2304 Ofc! and you're right dark times man.
And Yes and no, have i played DND with my friends? Yes I have! have I played a digital rp game like WoW, Diablo (idk if those counts) or Balder gates 3? no i haven't
disagree. GRFS was an awesome third person shooter.
Perfectly fine if you don't agree!
I hope you can at least still see where I'm coming from.
@@Kyanpepper25 GRFS had the superior gameplay, cover mechanics, animations, and while the story was basic, it still felt grounded and realistic. GR:W and BP had a cool open world, but the gameplay was a massive downgrade.
@@vlima7164 While i do agree that it was more grounded, i don't like the gameplay as much, felt to arcadic for GR.
But I do agree Wildlands and Bp are still not vary good games, with their host of problems, that in many cases makes Future soldier look better.
this game crazy nostalgic iwl
Can you do a review for Vladik Brutal? Game came yesterday
I'll def consider it!
Rn i'm working on making a Delta force alpha reivew
@@Kyanpepper25 whoooooooo
thoughts on the online multiplayer pvp mode? I think its awesome 🔥
Sadly I think was shut down, Which is such a damn shame!
@@Kyanpepper25 still up on xbox actually, I know one guy that tends to hosts private matches from time to time
@@zydontherecon Ah thats awesome to hear people are still trying to keep the game alive, sadly I don't own it on my Xbox tho.
yeah but playing this game in coop with my cousin in guerilla mode was so much fun tbh
I bet it was awesome!
Thats the one thing that does bother me, I didn't have anyone else who had the game to play it on co-op. I bet I would've had more fun!
Everyone is allowed to be wrong...
(I love it because it was my first ever action shooter, i didn't even heard of the series before YEARS after playing GRFR, but its still my favorite ghost recon i played (compaed to the new ones)
I agree with that statement, reflects on how i feel when i hear people call GRFS a good game.
Tbh, I understand your perspective cause its the same way i feel about the first GR game. I played it a lot as a kid and i really enjoyed it, so future soldier bothers me because it feels way more dumbed down, to me at least, than the original games.
I appreciate the calm response! (only one day in and i already had to delete comments of ppl telling me to km :) )
@@Kyanpepper25 Yeah, I honestly just like fun games, no matter if they are good
Ffs i play Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts which is a Bug filled shit of a game... but is still one of my favorite games
(Also, this is internet, would you really be succeding if at least 10% of people didn't want you dead? :D
@@jixdl Yea I saw that on your channel, I thought it was war thunder for a second
Also. That last part really got a laugh out of my XD
No, I guess not lmao
Let me guess, the helicopter is gonna get shot down because its lingering for so long? HAHAHA, then it does!
Read the game like a book!
Honestly should have a tutorial toggle
Imagine if ghost recon was a crab, and ubisoft decided that the crab has to compete in a lobster contest. I've decided that this comparison is bad. Good vid 👍
Your comparison is... interesting..
How have you not played gears of war? Thats a kin too not playing halo or zelda. I wouldn't trust a movie critic that hadn't seen the godfather or citizen cane.
I completely disagree, of all the Ghost Recon games this was my favorite, even to this day.
Fair is fair!
Funnily enough this was the most sold Ghost Recon since GRAW, meanwhile Wildlands and Breakpoint are the laughing stock of Ghost Recon history...
"Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Future Soldier was a success for Ubisoft in the first quarter of 2012, with sales increasing 27.2% from the previous year to around $160 million. Console sales were higher than expected, and the game was the best-selling console game in the United States in May and June." (Never heard of GRAW let alone the sad sandbox titles selling a console by reputation alone. And this report comes from Xbox magazine...ya know, the same time Halo 4 released)
You know what's truly disappointing? The current sandbox style of Ghost Recon and HEAVY lack of a successor to the Splinter Cell series...And you're calling this jewel trash when all people want are the MP days of this and GRAW.
As much as I do dislike the crappy "open worlds" GR games, Hyper linear ones are just as bad.
It has no creative or tactical freedom. As I stated before, Ghost Recon was all about tactical freedom, and letting you handle objectives however you want, and command your squads to achieve them.
Call me old school, but i much rather prefer the original Ghost Recon Vs this game, and day of the week.