2:27 Thanks for your testimony. I was baptized in the early 60,s but was taught by my parents and the old elders that there is one god and his son and the holy Spirit which is the same spirit in both the Father and the Son. It's only recently that my eyes have been opened to the fact that the church doesn't. Thanks again for the inspiration to me. God bless you.
John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
This is why I left the sda corporation 20 years ago, their doctrines denied the finished work on the cross and this teaching denies the deity of our beloved Saviour Jesus Christ. This is straight from Satan himself.
Thank you Ingo. A wonderful testimony and when someone speaks the truth it is clearly heard. It is good that God has his true ministers in the world during these last days. May God Bless you for your clear message of the truth spoken in love
“The work is laid out before every soul that has acknowledged his faith in Jesus Christ by baptism, and has become a receiver of the pledge from the three persons-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (MS 57, 1900).”
@ChrisDaniel-xy7lyThe Trinity denies that Jesus is really the son of God. In five years I have not found one Pastor or even a conference president that believes that Jesus is really the son of God
@ChrisDaniel-xy7ly AMEN, Hallelujah!! It is a shame how the enemy is using Seventh-day Adventist to destroy our doctrines. We have more to fear from within than without.
@@makingitsimple9730 none of the Pioneers nor even Ellen G white herself would be allowed to be baptized in the church today yet you keep thinking the Trinity is biblical...? What is wrong with you people?
I am an Adventist in East Africa. I have always been disturbed that ur church which was founded on biblical truth begun teaching none biblical doctrine like th the trinity. My personal stand has and still is this: " Jesus is everything he said he is no more no less". This means that if at all there is any contacting passages in the Bible then I will alway go with the Lord's own words. Jesus honoured his father all through his ministry on earth even his last words on the cross and the first words to Mary after resurrection. Brothers let us warship the God who created the world the heavens and all that in them is and have the testimony of our savior Jesus christ.
I was baptized in the SDA church 5 years ago, and it was in the name of the Father, Son, holy Spirit. Jesus himself said to be baptized in the name of the father, son, holy Spirit. God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
@@johnevegas Thats not what we say at all. We say the Father's spirit flows thru Christ to us. Jesus said it was his Father's spirit in him. There is one God, the Father, from whom flows all things. And Jesus, his begotten son. Read your Bible.
No where in bible do you see God listed that way. As for being baptized, it also says in a few places to baptize in Jesus's name. If you are to be filled with the Spirit after baptism then I would see why you would pray in that way, but you are being filled with Jesus and the Father by their Spirit.
I'm adding this video to my collection on my channel. What a great testimony! I've been an Adventist for the last 18 years but only discovered this truth about 3 years ago. What a journey! I never knew I could grow even closer to God in my relationship, but once you know the truth, everything has clarity like never before, which you can not explain to a trinitarian. When the Father Himself states that He is the God of Jesus, in Hebrews 1:9, and Jesus Himself says to Mary, "His Father and His God", then who are doubting what the Father and the Son themselves confess as truth?! Keeping Hebrews 1:8-9 in mind, NOW one can clearly also understand John 1:1, or Genesis 1:26. Everything just becomes so clear. As Sister White stated, you only have to read John 13 to 17 to know the truth about the Father and the Son's relationship.
@robertstephenson6806 I don't see any where in Acts 15 that does west with the 4th commandment. Yes, just the weekly Sabbath, as that was what was instituted at Creation and that is what is referred to in the 4th commandment. The other "Sabbaths" where ceremonial and connected to feast days. If you love me, keep my commandments.
@robertstephenson6806 robert, Here are two Bible texts that may help clear your confusion, and rediscover the biblical truth that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh: Colossians1:16 For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: . Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
@robertstephenson6806 You are wrong about many things! May be you need to look at Galatians 3:10! You also believe in the trinity, dont you? - the most God dishonering doctrine of all times! I challenge any SDA to: A. Show me any single bible verse where the trinity is EXPLICITLY stated (other than spurious verse in 1 John 5:7 - by the way, the fact that this verse was inserted into the KJV in violation of Revelation 22:18, speaks volumes about the truthfulness of trinity). B. Show a single verse in which the Holy Spirit requested to be honored as Jesus does in John 5:23 for example) *much less to be worshipped!* If he did not request you to make him a god and worship him, who do you think told you to worship in the trinity? The devil? C. The bible tell us EXPLICITLY that the Father created *"all things"* : Revelation 4:11; Ephesians 3:9. It also tells us that Jesus created all things: John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17. Now not withstanding that 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 explains how and why we have two entities described as "creator" *can you provide us a single scripture in which the Holy Spirit created something or one thing, much less created "all things"?* D. Whenever, I ask trinitarians to show me scriptures in support of trinity, they take me to scriptures like Mathew 28:19 or 2 Corinthians 13:14,etc.. and point out that they are mentioned together and hence trinity. Then I ask: 1. What about where two of these are mentioned together with other entities other than one of these(Luke 9:26 [why doesn't Jesus also come in the glory of the Holy Spirit]; 1 Timothy 5:21[why is the Holy Spirit not a witness here])? 2. What about scriptures where only two are mentioned together and one of them is omitted (John 14:1 John 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:5-6; *Revelation 5:11-14* )? What about these scriptures? Where is the Holy Spirit in these scriptures?
@robertstephenson6806 Why are you trying to put me in a religious box? Have you realy read and understood what Jesus was teaching us at Matthew 13:24-30&36-43? As for me, I only believe what the bible EXPLICITLY teaches: 1. I believe in John 14:1&6. Do you? 2. I believe in John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16-17 - *Jesus is my creator* and I therefore comply with 3. The prophecy at Isaiah 9:6 and call Jesus my *"Mighty God".* [John 5:22-23; John 8:24], Do you call Jesus, your Mighty God?
God has blessed you, Ingo, by guiding you and protecting your whole life. Interestingly I also became an SDA in 1986 and was disfellowshipped in 2018 over the OTG belief. I loved your prayer at the end…where do we go from here-? “To stand in defense of truth and righteousness when the majority forsake us, to fight the battles of the Lord when champions are few-this will be our test. At this time we must gather warmth from the coldness of others, courage from their cowardice and loyalty from their treason.” 5T 136.2
@@romandaigle455 Hi. OTG stands for One true God (the Father)-see I Cor. 8:6; Ephesians 4:6; John 17:3. The Bible teaches there is one God and He has an only begotten Son-Jesus Christ and there is one Spirit which is the Spirit of God and His Son-see John 14:23; 17:21-23; Romans 8:9-11. Apparently the church won’t accept you if you do not believe in the trinity teaching and kicked me and 7 others out. There are many good sermons out there on the topic-search Nader Mansour-trinity for some good ones. Always go with the Bible as it reads and not follow man’s creed. God bless!
@@Love4Truth777 Glad to see, you said you always go with the bible. Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. "God the Father calls his Son God"
@@bradbradbury8561 Hi Brother, Let us look at the verse in context of the Chapter and the message God was laying out. Hebrews 1:1-2 The law and the prophets came to their peak in Christ. Christ is God’s Son and the heir of all things. Hebrews 1:3-4 Christ is the exact representation of God and all things exist because of Christ. He is seated at the right hand of God and is greater than the angels. Hebrews 1:5 The Son is greater than the angels because God has made Him the heir of all things. Hebrews 1:6-7 The Son is greater than the angels because the angels have been commanded to worship Him and they serve Him. Hebrews 1:8-9 Still contrasting the Son with the angels, this verse talks about Christ’s throne lasting forever and God anointing Christ above everything. Hebrews 1:10-12 The Lord created the earth and the heavens, they will perish but the Lord is the same. Hebrews 1:13-14 God has never told the angels to sit at His right hand or told them He will make their enemies a footstool. Angels are made to do what God commands to help believers. Christ was the begotten Son, now God has made Christ the anointed Son and refers to Him as God. Because he was Begat from the Father...He is the divine heir of the Father. I hope that helps. Praise God in all things
@@truthseekersz The word God used in Hebrews 1:8 in the Strongs is, theos: God, a god Part of Speech: Noun, feminine, Noun, Masculine Translation: theos Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os) Definition: God, a god Usage: (a) God, (b) a god, generally. Helps Word Studies 2316 theós (of unknown origin)- properly, God, the creator and owner of all things (Jn 1:3; Gen 1-3). [Long before the new testament was written, 2316 (theós) referred to the supreme being who owns and sustains all things.]
1st John 5:7 was added to the Bible in the 1300s by a monk scribe. It is referred to as "the Johan comma". This monk thought he needed to reinforce the "trinity doctrine." He obviously didn't heed the warning about adding to God's word.
@@vernonpeterson3323that leads to unbelief to the rest of scriptures, which means none of it was really inspired and can't be trusted, it ultimately leads to apostasy.
@@AmazingTruthsMediaVarious reliable sources, including the SDA BIble commentary, explain clearly why 1 John 5:7 is an added text and how it came to be added into the Bible.
Ingo's Testimoney was great. Good for you. I too have left my church and have gone with a non-Conference Church. The Trinity and the fundamental issues need to be changed from our church. Bless you, for following the guidance of the Lord.
Yeah sorry to say this but don’t you think it’s kind of childish to leave the church just because you disagree with a certain belief. Jesus still died on the cross for peoples sins regardless of what they believed he did not abandon them simply because they disagreed with him.😢😎
@@Ramo718 we didn’t leave the church-the church left us, i.e., the church kicked us out. 🤷♀️ I wanted to study with them-they did not want to hear it…oops- sorry, I thought it was a comment to me. 🤦♀️ But I must say, there is joy in following God’s truth and having fellowship with believers.
@@Love4Truth777 LORI WROTE: " we didn’t leave the church-the church left us, i.e., the church kicked us out. " Are you aware that no church or religion can save us? Jesus rebuked religion and taught us to place all of our trust in Him and not a man-made religion. By simpy believing in Jesus' works, not ours, we "have" eternal life and shall not perish. We are saved in our sins by His righteousness that was imputed to those who trust only in Him, when He was on the cross.
@@rickdavis2235 yes, I realize Satan has many false religions and distractions from the truth. God’s church is a spiritual one and I get my doctrine only from the Bible. Membership in any church will not save…only by abiding in Christ-being justified and walking with Him daily as He sanctifies us-is the way to go…but it is a narrow path and few find it according to Jesus in Matthew 7.
May our Heavenly Father - the One true living God , and His only fully divine Son - Jesus Christ bless brother Ingo for this beautiful message , may He bless and empower all non-trinitarian adventists , and may the Father bless all trinitarian adventists as well , leading them to the repentance that there is no repenting of, in finally giving up the despicable idols of Rome ! May our great God and Saviour - the unique and fully divine Son of the Father have mercy on all fallen Protestantism and Catholicism , draw many more to His priceless Father who dwells in Heaven, but Whom not even the heaven of heavens can contain !
Yes, indeed. The Holy Spirit is a person, the person and power of God in us and in the world. It is not a third person at all. If it was a person, it would need a spirit inside of it, which is ridiculous.
@@Edupier "If it was a person, it would need a spirit inside of it, which is ridiculous." The problem with your statement is that it is unbiblical. The Bible clearly says that "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." God IS a spirit. The problem with those who despite the Holy Spirit as person is that they make up man made rules and then try to fit the Bible in those rules. Just take the Bible as it stands. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three are one. Just as a man and woman in the Bible are ONE FLESH, yet they are separate beings. We need go no further than this. Only accept it by faith.
“The Lord Jesus standing by the side of the canvasser, walking with them, is the chief worker. If we recognize Christ as the One who is with us to prepare the way, the Holy Spirit by our side will make impressions in just the lines needed.”-Manual for Canvassers, 40 (1902). - {CM 107.4} “Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power…. Christ has given His Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress His own character upon His church. “ - {DA 671.2}. The HS is not another person other than what the Bible teaches: the Spirit OF God, from the Father through His Son, the Spirit of Christ.
Sir Isaac Newton, considered the greatest scientist who ever lived, was also a student of the Bible, with an interest in Bible prophecy. He was considered a heretic because he did not believe in the traditional Trinity at his Trinity College. He believed there is God and Jesus was the mediator. Is that what you are saying as well? Newton's controversy regarding his disagreement with the Trinity concept was that believing Jesus was the mediator and not God in the flesh, that he was denying the divinity of God. What are your thoughts on this? I am wondering if Newton's thoughts on the Trinity are similar to what our SDA founders believed this as well.
He is Jesus because He represents His character. There are so many quotes before 1890 where Ellen White writes that the Holy Spirit is a separate person, personality. Personality is the same thing, just more pronounced. You can look it up in the old dictionary.
When people understand that Jesus spoke for God the same as David spoke for God, it makes perfect sense. Jesus spoke as the son, and when needed, spoke for God. Simple really.
The Catholic teaching of the trinity in their Cstequism says that the Father begot or created the son and the Holy Spirit comes from the Father and Son. Arrianism belief. It is strange that antitrinitariums preach the same thing
@@ElCaminoAngostoThere's a Big SECRET Lying in TRINITY Though both might have different ideas and perspective But Trinity is there. The reason why God wants us and Satan wants us is for them to Complete their lineage of TRINITY..... That's a secret am revealing to you Though God is complete even without us but with Complete Trinity it brings Harmony to the Universe With Satan he is unstable without Human, since he is in Spirits form
Loved hearing the part you wrote letters for 6 years ..I'm from Boston area USA. And now am married and loving Philippines Along with wife, that the Lord allowed for me to have, to keep me on the right path ? ❤
It is not essential for us to be able to define just what the Holy Spirit is. Christ tells us that the Spirit is the Comforter, "the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father." It is plainly declared regarding the Holy Spirit that, in His work of guiding men into all truth, "He shall not speak of Himself." John 15:26; 16:13.
I so agree. I do not read or speak Hebrew or Greek. But has God given us His word in English only to confuse those who do not understand Greek or Hebrew? Must we read the original manuscript in the original language in order to understand the Bible? Is the Lord incapable of revealing His truths necessary for salvation if the reader does not speak Hebrew or Greek? Please don’t be dogmatic about the nature of the Holy Ghost when God has not revealed everything about the Holy Ghost. Except we must understand what blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is (Luke 10:12). We must know this because if we commit this sin it will not be forgiven.
We have to keep on searching the scriptures and follow TRUTH NOT ORGANISATIONS! The truth will set us free from organisations to follow JESUS to be gobedo’s To GO where He Wants us to GO to 😢BE all that HE wants us to BE To DO all that HE wants us to do! There is ZERO salvation in any organisation JESUS wants us to FOLLOW HIM !
Christ’s representative on earth is the Holy Spirit. Jesus made this clear to His disciples a few short hours before Gethsemane: “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” (John 14:16, 17). Jesus is here talking about Himself when He says “he dwelleth with you.” And it is the Father who sends the comforter in the name of Jesus. “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” (John 14:26). It is the Holy Spirit that represents God to man and man to God; and as disciples, we speak directly to God through Jesus Christ, who is the “only” mediator between God and man. And to be sure that the disciples understood that He was talking of Himself, He said. “I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” John 14:18 And John surely understood, notice further. “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (paraklētos G3875) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:” 1 John 2:1 The term “paraklētos G3875”, is a term which is used just four times in the New Testament, it is used only by John, and it is translated as “Comforter.” John, the one who wrote Jesus’ discourse in John 14-16, the only disciple who used the term “paraklētos”, plainly identified who this comforter is. He said “we have a paraklētos with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous” And John is not the only one who plainly identified the comforter, or the spirit of truth as Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul did as well. Notice the following: “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” I Corinthians 8:6 After stating there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, Notice who he identifies the Lord to be: “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” 2 Corinthians 3:17 “The Lord is that Spirit!” Who is the Lord in this text? Once more: “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him” 1 Corinthians 8:6 In other words, when Paul says “the Lord is that Spirit”, he actually means “Jesus is that Spirit”. Thus, when we receive the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, we are actually receiving the Spirit or life of Jesus Christ.
The first mention of the Holy Spirit appears in genesis 1:2 - And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Clearly this does not depict a separate person but THE SPIRIT of God -also known as the Holy Spirit.
in 1907, A. T. Jones wrote, “The Holy Spirit is not an influence; nor an impression, nor peace, nor joy, nor any thing. . . . The Holy Spirit is a Person, eternally a divine Person.”12
What a you said sound good but in the bible we see where God talks to Jesus and we witness where Jesus talks to His Father but we never see where your God the holy spirit talks to Jesus nor to God the Father👈😎
@@benjamitewatchmensda5613 I agree… they did apostasies. That is why we test all things with the word. What Jones wrote about the spirit being a person is a profession of what scripture upholds….and also the same position taken by Ellen White and the seventh day Adventist church today….not because they derived their own ideas but because they stand on the word of God.
@@Rub316 Nor do we see in scripture where the Holy Spirit has a throne. The Father has His Throne, and His Son Jesus has His Throne next to His Father.
@@rickdavis2235 Amen, Rick. Basically everyone in this anti-Trinitarian movement refuses to admit that Jesus is God. I agree that we SDAs should never have started to use the word "Trinity" as a belief, because it carries a lot of baggage. We should have stayed with the biblical "Godhead", but still, that doesn't mean we reject Jesus as God, or the Holy Spirit as God.
@@earlysda A lot of "Christians" get hung up on the semantics or the "Niceae invented the Trinity" lie. They doubt it because they don't study the word and do the research that will reveal the truth, choosing instead to listen to others. The Trinity is nothing more than mans attempt to define what we read in scripture. The word of the LORD, the arm of the LORD, the angel of the LORD, the presence of the LORD all point to the eternal Son. They show up in the Old Testament, starting in Genesis and all throughout, and speak in third person about God and then in the same passage, they speak in first person as though they are God just like Jesus does in the New Testament.
@@earlysda I am antintrinitarian, but I affirm the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ based on: 1. The bible informs us that Jesus is our creator (John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16-17). Jesus created *"all things"* (including me and you)....so we can worship him as our creator. 2. The bible EXPLICITLY instructs us to treat him as such (Isaiah 9:6 & John 5:23). *So your poste is ultimately MISLEADING and FALSE!* All antintrinitarians do not deny the Deity of Jesua Christ! Trinity is not equal to Jesus deity! That is what many of you have been *brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe.* But the truth is simple: If you don't have a single scripture in which: 1. You were EXPLICITLY told or at least encouraged to honor, glorify or praise the Holy Spirit *much less WORSHIP him,* 2. You have at least *one example of a true servant of God in the OT or a first century Christian who worshiped the Holy Spirit* (thus leaving an example for you to follow) or 3. The Holy Spirit himself (or Jesus or the Father ) asked you or at least encouraged you to worship him (as Jesus does ask us for himself at John 5:23 or John 14:1&6 for example). Then *I am afraid; It is the demons INSTRUCTING YOU to worship the Holy Spirit (1 Timothy 4:1; 1 Corinthians 4:6; 1 John 4:1&6; Romans 10:2-3)!* Unfortunately, I have to tell you the truth in love! *The bible simply does NOT teach the worship of the Holy Spirit* ..i am sorry...it doesnt.. *but it is satan who wants to be worshipped who mascarades as the Holy Spirit within the false doctrine of trinity, so that he can get you people to inadvertently WORSHIP HIM as well in the FALSE doctrine of trinit.*
@forshizzleinthehizzl wrote: " As long as people understand the Holy Spirit is not a separate person from the Father and the Son, you’re on the right track. " How did you come to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is not separate from the Father and Son?
Nowhere in scripture is the Holy Spirit referred to as a separate person. It’s the power that proceeds forth from the Father. Satan has deceived the churches today with the “3 persons in 1” doctrine.
@@rickdavis2235 Seeing how Jesus said, Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Matthew 28:19
It's too disapponting listening all the time, people so called "Adventist" telling that the trinity has been always a SDA doctrine. Thanks God, now I realize there''s peiple who talks the Truth about this false doctrine which never belonged to the True Remnant. God bless you all.
Hello watching from Honduras, i've recently learned about Deity and not trinity. I'm a seventh day adventist. Is there a way I could get a spanish pamphlet of Pr Inglo's presentation? Or a link where I could download more information? Thank you for your cooperation. May the Lord bless you.
Unfortunately many people are divided on this issue and won’t come to light until the resurrection. I see both sides of the argument. It doesn’t appear to be a salvational issue. Those in favor of the “3 in 1” doctrine May believe it is. Either way I don’t see either side denying the Holy Spirit. It’s either a separate person to the godhead or it’s the Spirit of God and His demonstrative power. Too many scriptures are taken out of context to support both sides. I believe this requires a thorough study of the scriptures beginning in Genesis.
That's precisely why Neil C. Wilson told that SDA now was a real catholic church (about when SDA acceoted trinity un Texas SDA general congress in 1980)
The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but the acceptance of these views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden. AA 52.1
@josuearvizu4688 We are not trying to explain the nature of the HS but WHO the HS is. It is revealed in the Bible. It is the Spirit OF God and the Spirit of His Son. Study the following Scriptures: John 14:17-23; Rom. 8:9-11; Col. 1:27; Gal. 4:6; I Cor. 15:45; 2 Cor. 3:17; I John 2:1,2. The last verses mentioned above uses the word Advocate (for Jesus) which is the same word as Comforter in John 14:16. See I John 2:1,2.
Ingo good for you now you understand more about the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, the problem that I found but (i am not totally sure) is you considerer the writing of Helen White as inspired , it is around 10 years ago that realized about the false doctrine of trinity but it is five years ago that I am not more Adventist or Christian. However I believe in the God head as Helen White not because it is in her writings but because it is in the bible. Shalom!
How may I obtain a copy of the study you have during your video? A paper about the trinity. I have a friend ,that this would speak to my German sda I am trying to share the OTG with. Please let me know. Thank you and God bless your ministry
As I u/stand it it was Charlemagne the great who proposed to add "filio que" (and from the Son) to the Nicene Creed that finally split the latin and Greek churches.
The SDA church in any form is not the remnant church. God has taken it and given it to the Hebrew Roots/ Torah movement. They are teaching all the truths now and have a right understanding of the Law and Grace in the story of salvation. They are the ones that are truly keeping all the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.
Praise God Ingo. The mother of harlots central doctrine is the pagan trinity. Sunday the false sabbath, points to the redefined trinity gods. The true Sabbath points to the One true God!
I am confused. I thought the final issue, according to Ellen White, was the false Sabbath! Does your church (SDCR) believe E.G.W. had the spiritual gift of prophecy?
@@BDB-lt5gd The final issue will be over the Sabbath. The point i wanted to highlight was that the Sabbath is a "sign" that points us and leads our focus to the One True God. It's a Sign post if you like or a contract/covenant....we don't worship the day! We worship the God that Blessed and Hallowed the 7th Day. Satan has perverted the Sabbath commandment of God. Why? Because he wants to deceive humanity. Satan has also lied about the nature of God & His Son Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the LORD who sanctifies them. The Sabbath is not Just a specific day. It is a Holy Day. God Hallowed it. Why? So that we would know Him...reminded every week of Him and His Love for us & our need for Him. Why do we need to stop working? Because, God asked us to stop. So that we would be reminded each week that it is not by our work/labour that we are saved! The Sabbath recognises 1. He created all things & He alone is Holy 2. It is by His work that we are saved. 3. He sanctifies us! 4. He redeems us. 5. His Son Justifies us. 4th Commandment Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you. Those that keep the Sabbath Holy will tell you that Sabbath is not a burden....it is a Blessing and a Gift. To pause and reflect on Him who created and redeemed us. By altering the Sabbath, The dark powers of Satan have created a fake day of worship to another god. The 1st Day has not been made Holy. Satan conjured up a trinity god.God is Not 3 in 1! He alone is God. He has a son and he communicates with us through His Spirit. John 14:23 23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. John 17:4-6 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. Revelation 14:12 2 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. Hope that helps Praise God
@@earlysda Probably 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. "These three are one"
Thank you for knowing us about the doctrine of trinity...why our leaders allow this kind of teachings that comes from babylon?is our church is already in apostasy?is the spirit of God gradually departed in our church?
@@BDB-lt5gd Don't join any denomination because all denominations are the Harlot daughters of the Roman Catholic church who is the Mother of organizations.
Rather follow the Restoration ministry of Elijah the prophet that was Promised by the Lord Jesus Christ who said..."Truly Elijah SHALL first come and Restore All things.
It's not a GROUP but one man.... Elijah was one man and than Elisha came in the spirit of Elijah also one man and than John the Baptist came in the spirit and power of Elijah also one man and than in Malachi 4 another prophet will come in the spirit of Elijah also one man.
@@eagleeyes6642it’s not necessarily one man but it’s a message of restoring God’s truth that has been thrown down in ages past. The latter rain will be upon many people prophesying truth to a dying world and then Jesus will come. Daniel 8:12; Luke 1:16,17; Joel 2:28-32; Revelation 14:1-5; Matthew 24:14. The Three Angels Messages (Rev. 14:6-12) sums up the truth to be restored.
John 1:1 The ward was God It doesn’t say the ward was son of God When the ward becomes flesh In John 1:14 That is when the word is begotten taking human body and nature but without sin and becomes the son of God Jesus and the father are one Like husband and wife are one flesh I hope that God opens your eyes to see the truth like you preached on this subject 9 years ago
Do you know about what this sermon reminds me: i search the hair in the soup!! Revelation 14, 7 it's true that in a german Bible version like Schlachter 2000 and Luther 1985 is no cross-reference to Exodus 20, 8-11 to the Sabbath Commandment - but where's the problem?! That person who reads the Bible in prayer and honestly is able to realize that!!
I struggled with the issue of The Holy Ghost being an entity unto Himself once. I’m not well trained or versed in reading Hebrew nor Greek yet through plain reading i found clear understanding. I don’t claim to understand or know the entirety of this issue but something simple brought peace to my mind. It is as interchangeable with The Holy Ghost as it is with Jesus and The Father. Perhaps the root question can be which came first, God The Father or The Godhead. I’m sure everyone’s familiar with Levi paying tithe through Abraham. Ironically in this same manner Catholics call the biblical sabbath Jewish which isn’t incorrect. Following the Levi through Abraham model we see Judah in the seed of Adam. So in the creation week God created through the Word in Adam Jews, Spaniards, Vikings, etc. and The Holy Sabbath which God himself defined as a peculiar sign between Himself and his people, who happen to call themselves Jews. In conversation with the woman at the well he contended that the Jews knew what they worshipped, salvation is of the Jews. Changing lanes, can one become two, and can two become three without division? A single man can marry a woman and father a child and act as a single unit still. Were used to division and selfishness so we’re naturally opposed to this concept though we speak of family and unity. At a root i think it selfish motivation still, but it’s an aside note. Can a flock of birds borne off the same nest fly in formation towards the same destination? Can an iceberg calve off “new” bergs that flow independently? Are they the exact same material, derived of the same time, accomplishing the same task? And yet we name ice flows and bergs separately charting and recording them as independent masses. And we allow this for inanimate waters but challenge the notion where the spiritual is concerned? If you sever the body of tape worms they have the ability to regrow the missing pieces to regenerate fully. To question God’s existence before our own demise, without the simple ability to comprehend with a finite mind a never beginning eternity before our creation seems impossible and not about salvation. If I’m drowning with precious moments to spare and someone attempts to pull me to safety, there isn’t enough time to make sure his credentials and prior background checks qualify him to in fact extend his helping hand in the first place.
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. Romans 8
KJV Revelation 22:1 1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. QUESTION: Where is the trinity in this verse, I see The Father and His Son only no 3rd person 🤔
Little strange. At the same time as you began qustening the Trinity many other world-wide started doing the same. I also here in Denmark. I don.t know how to connect to other OTG's and how to deal with the nominal advent church?
@@Paulina-pu5sv We are from the USA and also found this message in 2014! It partly happened because we had walked away from God and SDA for about 30 years. When we came back to God we hadn't really been indoctrinated by the SDA stand, so we had no issue understanding the truth about a trinity.
NOTE: OUR: Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
In Genesis 1:26 God was speaking to Jesus (His Son). Several NEW Testament texts prove this to be so. For instance, John 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:1-2; Ephesians 3:9 and Colossians 1:15-17
1. EUSEBIUS (C. 260-C. 340) was the Bishop of Caesarea and is known as “the Father of Church History.” Although he wrote prolifically, his most celebrated work is his Ecclesiastical History, a history of the Church from the Apostolic period until his own time. Today it is still the principal work on the history of the Church at that time. Eusebius quotes many verses in his writings, and Matthew 28:19 is one of them. He never quotes it as it appears today in modern Bibles, but always finishes the verse with the words “IN MY NAME.” For example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read: But the rest of the apostles, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went unto all nations to preach the Gospel, RELYING UPON THE POWER OF CHRIST, WHO HAD SAID TO THEM, “GO YE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL THE NATIONS IN MY NAME.” Again, in his Oration in Praise of Emperor Constantine, Chapter 16, Section 8, we read: What king or prince in any age of the world, what philosopher, legislator or prophet, in civilized or barbarous lands, has attained so great a height of excellence, I say not after death, but while living still, and full of mighty power, as to fill the ears and tongues of all mankind with the praises of his name? Surely none save our only Saviour has done this, when, after his victory over death, he spoke the word to his followers, and fulfilled it by the event, saying to them, “GO YE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS IN MY NAME.” Eusebius was present at the council of Nicaea and was involved in the debates about Arian teaching and whether Christ was God or a creation of God. We feel confident that if the manuscripts he had in front of him read “in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” he would never have quoted it as “in my name.” Thus, we believe that the earliest manuscripts read “IN MY NAME,” and that the phrase was enlarged to reflect the orthodox position as Trinitarian influence spread. 2. If Matthew 28:19 is accurate as it stands in modern versions, then there is no explanation for the apparent disobedience of the apostles, since there is not a single occurrence of them baptizing anyone according to that formula. All the records in the New Testament show that people were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus, just as the text Eusebius was quoting said to do. In other words, the “name of Jesus Christ,” i.e., all that he represents, is the element, or substance, into which people were figuratively “baptized.” “Peter replied, ‘Repent and be baptized, every one of you, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS’” (Acts 2:38). “They had simply been baptized into the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS” (Acts 8:16). “So he ordered that they be baptized in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST” (Acts 10:48). “On hearing this, they were baptized into THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS” (Acts 19:5). We cannot imagine any reason for the Apostles and others in Acts to disobey a command of the risen Christ. To us, it seems clear that Christ said to baptize in his name, and that was what the early Church did. PHILIPPIANS 2 9 THEREFORE GOD EXALTED HIM TO THE HIGHEST PLACE, AND GAVE HIM THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, 10 THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH, TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER. [FOR THEY ARE ONE - ONE SPIRIT - THROUGH ALL AND IN ALL.] GOD BLESS YOU AND MAY THE PEACE OF JESUS CHRIST THE PRINCE OF PEACE BE WITH YOU ALWAYS..
“Ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you; and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.” “All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you; and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.” Just before He left them, Christ gave His disciples this promise of the Holy Spirit, and while the words were upon His lips, He ascended. A cloud of angels received Him, and escorted Him to the city of God. The disciples returned to Jerusalem, knowing now that Jesus was indeed the Son of God. Their faith was unclouded, and they waited for the fulfilment of the promise, preparing themselves by prayer for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. ST September 20, 1899
@@Seventh-dayChurchofRevelation You are lost! I challenge any SDA to: A. Show me any single bible verse where the trinity is EXPLICITLY stated (other than spurious verse in 1 John 5:7 - by the way, the fact that this verse was inserted into the KJV in violation of Revelation 22:18, speaks volumes about the truthfulness of trinity). B. Show a single verse in which the Holy Spirit requested to be honored as Jesus does in John 5:23 for example) *much less to be worshipped!* If he did not request you to make him a god and worship him, who do you think told you to worship in the trinity? The devil? C. The bible tell us EXPLICITLY that the Father created *"all things"* : Revelation 4:11; Ephesians 3:9. It also tells us that Jesus created all things: John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17. Now not withstanding that 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 explains how and why we have two entries described as "creator" *can you provide us a single scripture in which the Holy Spirit created something or one thing, much less created "all things"?* D. Whenever, I ask trinitarians to show me a single scriptures, the take me to scriptures like Mathew 28:19 or 2 Corinthians 13:14,etc.. and point out that they are mentioned together and hence trinity. Then I ask: 1. What about where two of these are mentioned together with other entities other than one of these(Luke 9:26 [why doesn't Jesus also come in the glory of the Holy Spirit]; 1 Timothy 5:21[why is the Holy Spirit not a witness here])? 2. What about scriptures where only two are mentioned together and one of them is omitted (John 14:1 John 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:5-6; *Revelation 5:11-14* )? What about these scriptures? Where is the Holy Spirit in these scriptures?
I have a question dear pastor, do you believe in the Holy Spirit ? Elena White she call to Jesus, God and Holy Spirit , Divine Deity, are you accept this this name for the Divine Being? Thanks for your answer
Yes, I believe in the Holy Spirit. I am not sure what you are asking in the second part of your question . . . please rephrase! References? I honestly want to understand what you are asking so I can respond appropriately. Thanks! Español ok tambien.
I will give one reason why many have accepted this teaching:They have relied on their own wits. Prov 3:5-6: "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths." Pray that he will give you wisdom and understanding. This teaching is a false doctrine. Ellen White writes that the Sabbath will be the final touchstone. I have hung in the doctrine myself.
2, 3 (Acts 20:28). A Wide Field for Church Leaders.--God is not glorified by leaders in the church who seek to drive the sheep. No, no. "Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. There is a wide field for the elders and the helpers in every church. They are to feed the flock of God with pure provender, thoroughly winnowed from the chaff, the poisonous mixture of error. You who have any part to act in the church of God, be sure that you act wisely in feeding the flock of God; for its prosperity much depends upon the quality of this food (MS 59, 1900). {7BC 942.6} 3. See EGW on Psalm 89:14. {7BC 942.7} 6. See EGW on James 4:10. {SDA Bible Commentary Vol7, Chapter 5}
@@earlysda The Father (God), The Son (God), and their Spirit. Two Gods and their divine spirit. "The Father and the Son Alone are to be exalted." E.G. White, YI, July 7, 1898.
@@EverlastingWayAdventFellowship Fellowship: So you are not a One True God believer. OK. That is interesting. Your remark about "Two Gods" is serious error tho, showing you do not understand the Holy Bible, and don't believe what Jesus said: John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father? . Your remark regarding the Holy Spirit is contradicting what God had Ellen White say: "Now a little point. As the saints in the kingdom of God are accepted in the beloved, they hear: “Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” [Matthew 25:34.] And then the golden harps are touched, and the music flows all through the heavenly host, and they fall down and worship the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." Ms139 1906. . Please repent (if possible) and start following the three great powers of heaven.
2:27 Thanks for your testimony. I was baptized in the early 60,s but was taught by my parents and the old elders that there is one god and his son and the holy Spirit which is the same spirit in both the Father and the Son. It's only recently that my eyes have been opened to the fact that the church doesn't. Thanks again for the inspiration to me. God bless you.
Many greetings from Germany. Here are also believers like Ingo. God , our father and his only begotten son , Jeshua bless you all. Shalom.
John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 1 John 2:23
And there's not to kind of a word used in verse 1John 2:22 to describe those who do such things.
This is why I left the sda corporation 20 years ago, their doctrines denied the finished work on the cross and this teaching denies the deity of our beloved Saviour Jesus Christ. This is straight from Satan himself.
@@ThisBloke760 AMEN!!!
Yes. It implies, there is no trinity. Shma Israel!
Thank you Ingo. A wonderful testimony and when someone speaks the truth it is clearly heard. It is good that God has his true ministers in the world during these last days. May God Bless you for your clear message of the truth spoken in love
“The work is laid out before every soul that has acknowledged his faith in Jesus Christ by baptism, and has become a receiver of the pledge from the three persons-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (MS 57, 1900).”
Yes I read something similar from her
@ChrisDaniel-xy7lyThe Trinity denies that Jesus is really the son of God. In five years I have not found one Pastor or even a conference president that believes that Jesus is really the son of God
@ChrisDaniel-xy7ly AMEN, Hallelujah!! It is a shame how the enemy is using Seventh-day Adventist to destroy our doctrines. We have more to fear from within than without.
@ChrisDaniel-xy7ly Even your SDA Trinity denies that Jesus is really truly the only begotten son of God.
@@makingitsimple9730 none of the Pioneers nor even Ellen G white herself would be allowed to be baptized in the church today yet you keep thinking the Trinity is biblical...? What is wrong with you people?
I am an Adventist in East Africa. I have always been disturbed that ur church which was founded on biblical truth begun teaching none biblical doctrine like th the trinity.
My personal stand has and still is this: " Jesus is everything he said he is no more no less". This means that if at all there is any contacting passages in the Bible then I will alway go with the Lord's own words.
Jesus honoured his father all through his ministry on earth even his last words on the cross and the first words to Mary after resurrection.
Brothers let us warship the God who created the world the heavens and all that in them is and have the testimony of our savior Jesus christ.
There is something that we may not understand fully now but we will understand it by and by when Jesus returns and takes us to heaven
Praise God for shepherds like you!
We follow the Lord’s voice… he is our Shepherd
I was baptized in the SDA church 5 years ago, and it was in the name of the Father, Son, holy Spirit. Jesus himself said to be baptized in the name of the father, son, holy Spirit. God the father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.
Right on. These antitrinitarians are confused. They teach that the father and the son are blended into one person called the Holy Spirit.
But he never said that the three are one!
Where in the Bible does it say God the holy spirit. What it does say is the spirit of God and of Jesus. Read your Bible.
@@johnevegas Thats not what we say at all. We say the Father's spirit flows thru Christ to us. Jesus said it was his Father's spirit in him. There is one God, the Father, from whom flows all things. And Jesus, his begotten son. Read your Bible.
No where in bible do you see God listed that way. As for being baptized, it also says in a few places to baptize in Jesus's name. If you are to be filled with the Spirit after baptism then I would see why you would pray in that way, but you are being filled with Jesus and the Father by their Spirit.
I'm adding this video to my collection on my channel. What a great testimony! I've been an Adventist for the last 18 years but only discovered this truth about 3 years ago. What a journey! I never knew I could grow even closer to God in my relationship, but once you know the truth, everything has clarity like never before, which you can not explain to a trinitarian. When the Father Himself states that He is the God of Jesus, in Hebrews 1:9, and Jesus Himself says to Mary, "His Father and His God", then who are doubting what the Father and the Son themselves confess as truth?! Keeping Hebrews 1:8-9 in mind, NOW one can clearly also understand John 1:1, or Genesis 1:26. Everything just becomes so clear. As Sister White stated, you only have to read John 13 to 17 to know the truth about the Father and the Son's relationship.
@robertstephenson6806 I don't see any where in Acts 15 that does west with the 4th commandment. Yes, just the weekly Sabbath, as that was what was instituted at Creation and that is what is referred to in the 4th commandment. The other "Sabbaths" where ceremonial and connected to feast days.
If you love me, keep my commandments.
@robertstephenson6806 Jesus Christ spoke everything into existence, except humans whom he formed from the dust of the ground.
@robertstephenson6806 robert, Here are two Bible texts that may help clear your confusion, and rediscover the biblical truth that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh:
Colossians1:16 For by him (Jesus) were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
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Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
@robertstephenson6806
You are wrong about many things!
May be you need to look at Galatians 3:10!
You also believe in the trinity, dont you? - the most God dishonering doctrine of all times!
I challenge any SDA to:
A. Show me any single bible verse where the trinity is EXPLICITLY stated (other than spurious verse in 1 John 5:7 - by the way, the fact that this verse was inserted into the KJV in violation of Revelation 22:18, speaks volumes about the truthfulness of trinity).
B. Show a single verse in which the Holy Spirit requested to be honored as Jesus does in John 5:23 for example) *much less to be worshipped!* If he did not request you to make him a god and worship him, who do you think told you to worship in the trinity? The devil?
C. The bible tell us EXPLICITLY that the Father created *"all things"* : Revelation 4:11; Ephesians 3:9. It also tells us that Jesus created all things: John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17. Now not withstanding that 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 explains how and why we have two entities described as "creator" *can you provide us a single scripture in which the Holy Spirit created something or one thing, much less created "all things"?*
D. Whenever, I ask trinitarians to show me scriptures in support of trinity, they take me to scriptures like Mathew 28:19 or 2 Corinthians 13:14,etc.. and point out that they are mentioned together and hence trinity. Then I ask:
1. What about where two of these are mentioned together with other entities other than one of these(Luke 9:26 [why doesn't Jesus also come in the glory of the Holy Spirit]; 1 Timothy 5:21[why is the Holy Spirit not a witness here])?
2. What about scriptures where only two are mentioned together and one of them is omitted (John 14:1 John 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:5-6; *Revelation 5:11-14* )? What about these scriptures? Where is the Holy Spirit in these scriptures?
@robertstephenson6806
Why are you trying to put me in a religious box? Have you realy read and understood what Jesus was teaching us at Matthew 13:24-30&36-43?
As for me, I only believe what the bible EXPLICITLY teaches:
1. I believe in John 14:1&6. Do you?
2. I believe in John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16-17 - *Jesus is my creator* and I therefore comply with
3. The prophecy at Isaiah 9:6 and call Jesus my *"Mighty God".* [John 5:22-23; John 8:24], Do you call Jesus, your Mighty God?
God has blessed you, Ingo, by guiding you and protecting your whole life. Interestingly I also became an SDA in 1986 and was disfellowshipped in 2018 over the OTG belief. I loved your prayer at the end…where do we go from here-?
“To stand in defense of truth and righteousness when the majority forsake us, to fight the battles of the Lord when champions are few-this will be our test. At this time we must gather warmth from the coldness of others, courage from their cowardice and loyalty from their treason.”
5T 136.2
What’s OTG, how did they kick you out? Thanks so much, I am just curious.
@@romandaigle455 Hi. OTG stands for One true God (the Father)-see I Cor. 8:6; Ephesians 4:6; John 17:3. The Bible teaches there is one God and He has an only begotten Son-Jesus Christ and there is one Spirit which is the Spirit of God and His Son-see John 14:23; 17:21-23; Romans 8:9-11.
Apparently the church won’t accept you if you do not believe in the trinity teaching and kicked me and 7 others out.
There are many good sermons out there on the topic-search Nader Mansour-trinity for some good ones. Always go with the Bible as it reads and not follow man’s creed.
God bless!
@@Love4Truth777 Glad to see, you said you always go with the bible.
Hebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
"God the Father calls his Son God"
@@bradbradbury8561 Hi Brother,
Let us look at the verse in context of the Chapter and the message God was laying out.
Hebrews 1:1-2
The law and the prophets came to their peak in Christ. Christ is God’s Son and the heir of all things.
Hebrews 1:3-4
Christ is the exact representation of God and all things exist because of Christ. He is seated at the right hand of God and is greater than the angels.
Hebrews 1:5
The Son is greater than the angels because God has made Him the heir of all things.
Hebrews 1:6-7
The Son is greater than the angels because the angels have been commanded to worship Him and they serve Him.
Hebrews 1:8-9
Still contrasting the Son with the angels, this verse talks about Christ’s throne lasting forever and God anointing Christ above everything.
Hebrews 1:10-12
The Lord created the earth and the heavens, they will perish but the Lord is the same.
Hebrews 1:13-14
God has never told the angels to sit at His right hand or told them He will make their enemies a footstool. Angels are made to do what God commands to help believers.
Christ was the begotten Son, now God has made Christ the anointed Son and refers to Him as God. Because he was Begat from the Father...He is the divine heir of the Father.
I hope that helps.
Praise God in all things
@@truthseekersz The word God used in Hebrews 1:8 in the Strongs is,
theos: God, a god
Part of Speech: Noun, feminine, Noun, Masculine
Translation: theos
Phonetic Spelling: (theh'-os)
Definition: God, a god
Usage: (a) God, (b) a god, generally.
Helps Word Studies
2316 theós (of unknown origin)-
properly, God, the creator and owner of all things (Jn 1:3; Gen 1-3).
[Long before the new testament was written, 2316 (theós) referred to the supreme being who owns and sustains all things.]
Amen 🙏 thankyou God for your words to be hear in world with truth and righteous ☮️☮️🙏🙏🙏
@miriampaap you do realize you posted the sign of the antichrist up side down broken cross.
God bless you and your family brother.
That is a powerful testimony! Praise God for your faith and your host family
Praise God for the heavenly trio
For there are that bear witness in heaven, the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit. And these three are one.
Thanks. Why do people find it difficult to take and accept simple statements like what the verse says?
1st John 5:7 was added to the Bible in the 1300s by a monk scribe. It is referred to as "the Johan comma". This monk thought he needed to reinforce the "trinity doctrine." He obviously didn't heed the warning about adding to God's word.
@@vernonpeterson3323that leads to unbelief to the rest of scriptures, which means none of it was really inspired and can't be trusted, it ultimately leads to apostasy.
@@AmazingTruthsMediaVarious reliable sources, including the SDA BIble commentary, explain clearly why 1 John 5:7 is an added text and how it came to be added into the Bible.
"these three are one" One what? It doesn't say one person. Look at the next verse. They are one in agreement.
Ingo's Testimoney was great. Good for you. I too have left my church and have gone with a non-Conference Church. The Trinity and the fundamental issues need to be changed from our church. Bless you, for following the guidance of the Lord.
Yeah sorry to say this but don’t you think it’s kind of childish to leave the church just because you disagree with a certain belief. Jesus still died on the cross for peoples sins regardless of what they believed he did not abandon them simply because they disagreed with him.😢😎
@@Ramo718 we didn’t leave the church-the church left us, i.e., the church kicked us out. 🤷♀️ I wanted to study with them-they did not want to hear it…oops- sorry, I thought it was a comment to me. 🤦♀️ But I must say, there is joy in following God’s truth and having fellowship with believers.
@@Love4Truth777
LORI WROTE:
" we didn’t leave the church-the church left us, i.e., the church kicked us out. "
Are you aware that no church or religion can save us? Jesus rebuked religion and taught us to place all of our trust in Him and not a man-made religion. By simpy believing in Jesus' works, not ours, we "have" eternal life and shall not perish. We are saved in our sins by His righteousness that was imputed to those who trust only in Him, when He was on the cross.
@@rickdavis2235 yes, I realize Satan has many false religions and distractions from the truth. God’s church is a spiritual one and I get my doctrine only from the Bible. Membership in any church will not save…only by abiding in Christ-being justified and walking with Him daily as He sanctifies us-is the way to go…but it is a narrow path and few find it according to Jesus in Matthew 7.
@@rickdavis2235My friend, you're in a dangerous position believing a false christ that saved you in your sins.
Wake up and be not deceived!
“Man can receive no greater gift than this, that he rejoices another’s heart.” Let’s do so when relating to the followers of all religions.
May our Heavenly Father - the One true living God , and His only fully divine Son - Jesus Christ bless brother Ingo for this beautiful message , may He bless and empower all non-trinitarian adventists , and may the Father bless all trinitarian adventists as well , leading them to the repentance that there is no repenting of, in finally giving up the despicable idols of Rome !
May our great God and Saviour - the unique and fully divine Son of the Father have mercy on all fallen Protestantism and Catholicism , draw many more to His priceless Father who dwells in Heaven, but Whom not even the heaven of heavens can contain !
I enjoy the testimony but will always worship Jesus and the father as my creator.,my God and my redeemer
“We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds.-Manuscript 66, 1899.
Use the Bible for evidence, not the books of a witch called EGW
Excellent find! Clear statements like these are impossible to gainsay. They were given to us to help guide the Church in these last days.
Yes, indeed. The Holy Spirit is a person, the person and power of God in us and in the world. It is not a third person at all. If it was a person, it would need a spirit inside of it, which is ridiculous.
@@Edupier "If it was a person, it would need a spirit inside of it, which is ridiculous."
The problem with your statement is that it is unbiblical. The Bible clearly says that "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth."
God IS a spirit.
The problem with those who despite the Holy Spirit as person is that they make up man made rules and then try to fit the Bible in those rules.
Just take the Bible as it stands. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three are one. Just as a man and woman in the Bible are ONE FLESH, yet they are separate beings.
We need go no further than this. Only accept it by faith.
“The Lord Jesus standing by the side of the canvasser, walking with them, is the chief worker. If we recognize Christ as the One who is with us to prepare the way, the Holy Spirit by our side will make impressions in just the lines needed.”-Manual for Canvassers, 40 (1902). - {CM 107.4}
“Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power…. Christ has given His Spirit as a divine power to overcome all hereditary and cultivated tendencies to evil, and to impress His own character upon His church. “
- {DA 671.2}.
The HS is not another person other than what the Bible teaches: the Spirit OF God, from the Father through His Son, the Spirit of Christ.
Sir Isaac Newton, considered the greatest scientist who ever lived, was also a student of the Bible, with an interest in Bible prophecy. He was considered a heretic because he did not believe in the traditional Trinity at his Trinity College. He believed there is God and Jesus was the mediator. Is that what you are saying as well? Newton's controversy regarding his disagreement with the Trinity concept was that believing Jesus was the mediator and not God in the flesh, that he was denying the divinity of God. What are your thoughts on this? I am wondering if Newton's thoughts on the Trinity are similar to what our SDA founders believed this as well.
I love your videos. So clear and helpful.
Brother, this is a great testimony and awesome message.
Good teaching thank you. Ltr 66 We want the Holy Spirit which is Jesus Christ. Pretty clear. God bless you all.
God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are 3 seperate persons. Working as one..
He is Jesus because He represents His character. There are so many quotes before 1890 where Ellen White writes that the Holy Spirit is a separate person, personality. Personality is the same thing, just more pronounced. You can look it up in the old dictionary.
@Samuelxkls I agree with you. LtR 66 We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ.
God will keep you. Studying the Bible brought me to the same conclusion.
When people understand that Jesus spoke for God the same as David spoke for God, it makes perfect sense. Jesus spoke as the son, and when needed, spoke for God. Simple really.
Powerful and interesting, amen
Infact im very glad that i have seached and foud that i have been dumped by my church for so long, but now my eyes are open, thanks
Thank you dear! This is a powerful testimony 🙏🏻 Pray that you and your family are strengthened going into these last hours now. PRAISE GOD
The Catholic teaching of the trinity in their Cstequism says that the Father begot or created the son and the Holy Spirit comes from the Father and Son. Arrianism belief.
It is strange that antitrinitariums preach the same thing
@@ElCaminoAngostoThere's a Big SECRET Lying in TRINITY
Though both might have different ideas and perspective
But Trinity is there.
The reason why God wants us and Satan wants us is for them to Complete their lineage of TRINITY.....
That's a secret am revealing to you
Though God is complete even without us but with Complete Trinity it brings Harmony to the Universe
With Satan he is unstable without Human, since he is in Spirits form
"...the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life". (John 6:63)
Loved hearing the part you wrote letters for 6 years ..I'm from Boston area USA. And now am married and loving Philippines Along with wife, that the Lord allowed for me to have, to keep me on the right path ? ❤
We readed to each other for 6 years also😅
It is not essential for us to be able to define just what the Holy Spirit is. Christ tells us that the Spirit is the Comforter, "the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father." It is plainly declared regarding the Holy Spirit that, in His work of guiding men into all truth, "He shall not speak of Himself." John 15:26; 16:13.
I so agree. I do not read or speak Hebrew or Greek. But has God given us His word in English only to confuse those who do not understand Greek or Hebrew? Must we read the original manuscript in the original language in order to understand the Bible? Is the Lord incapable of revealing His truths necessary for salvation if the reader does not speak Hebrew or Greek? Please don’t be dogmatic about the nature of the Holy Ghost when God has not revealed everything about the Holy Ghost. Except we must understand what blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is (Luke 10:12). We must know this because if we commit this sin it will not be forgiven.
..."You might he right but we have to protect the institution". A very sad statement.
That sounds like a catholic statement
This sounds like an atheist point of view.
We have to keep on searching the scriptures and follow TRUTH NOT ORGANISATIONS! The truth will set us free from organisations to follow JESUS to be gobedo’s To GO where He Wants us to GO to 😢BE all that HE wants us to BE To DO all that HE wants us to do! There is ZERO salvation in any organisation JESUS wants us to FOLLOW HIM !
The Spirit of the Father is in the Son, and that Spirit of the Son is the Holy Spirit.
Scriptures please.
Christ’s representative on earth is the Holy Spirit.
Jesus made this clear to His disciples a few short hours before Gethsemane:
“And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.” (John 14:16, 17).
Jesus is here talking about Himself when He says “he dwelleth with you.”
And it is the Father who sends the comforter in the name of Jesus.
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.” (John 14:26).
It is the Holy Spirit that represents God to man and man to God; and as disciples, we speak directly to God through Jesus Christ, who is the “only” mediator between God and man.
And to be sure that the disciples understood that He was talking of Himself, He said.
“I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” John 14:18
And John surely understood, notice further.
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate (paraklētos G3875) with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:” 1 John 2:1
The term “paraklētos G3875”, is a term which is used just four times in the New Testament, it is used only by John, and it is translated as “Comforter.”
John, the one who wrote Jesus’ discourse in John 14-16, the only disciple who used the term “paraklētos”, plainly identified who this comforter is. He said “we have a paraklētos with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous”
And John is not the only one who plainly identified the comforter, or the spirit of truth as Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul did as well.
Notice the following:
“But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.” I Corinthians 8:6
After stating there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, Notice who he identifies the Lord to be:
“Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” 2 Corinthians 3:17
“The Lord is that Spirit!” Who is the Lord in this text?
Once more: “But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him” 1 Corinthians 8:6
In other words, when Paul says “the Lord is that Spirit”, he actually means “Jesus is that Spirit”. Thus, when we receive the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, we are actually receiving the Spirit or life of Jesus Christ.
Praising our Heavenly Father God for the blessing of this message, clearly led by the Holy Spirit of the Lord from start to finish!🙌🏽
The first mention of the Holy Spirit appears in genesis 1:2 - And the earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Clearly this does not depict a separate person but THE SPIRIT of God -also known as the Holy Spirit.
Brothers and Sisters! It is no wonder,then our Leader's did sign the Catholic Eucumane Order- Unity!!!!
Praise the Lord!
in 1907, A. T. Jones wrote, “The Holy Spirit is not an influence; nor an impression, nor peace, nor joy, nor any thing. . . . The Holy Spirit is a Person, eternally a divine Person.”12
What a you said sound good but in the bible we see where God talks to Jesus and we witness where Jesus talks to His Father but we never see where your God the holy spirit talks to Jesus nor to God the Father👈😎
❤ very true the holy spirit is a person but he is the person of Jesus Christ. The Lord is that Holy Spirit.
Sadly at the time he wrote that, he had apostasized. Together with Kellogg
@@benjamitewatchmensda5613 I agree… they did apostasies. That is why we test all things with the word. What Jones wrote about the spirit being a person is a profession of what scripture upholds….and also the same position taken by Ellen White and the seventh day Adventist church today….not because they derived their own ideas but because they stand on the word of God.
@@Rub316 Nor do we see in scripture where the Holy Spirit has a throne. The Father has His Throne, and His Son Jesus has His Throne next to His Father.
May God continue to lead, guide and provide for you and your family brother as you continue to proclaim the truth as it is in Jesus.
For more on this topic, No King But Caesar & The Return Of The Melchisedec is available online at Advantage Books. Peace to all.👍👍
I've seen you on another channel push this book. What exactly is it about, although the title 🤔 is revealing to some degree?
May God bless you brother as you spread the true message about God and His son
One question, do you believe Jesus is God?
@@earlysda
I know Jesus is God.
@@rickdavis2235 Amen, Rick. Basically everyone in this anti-Trinitarian movement refuses to admit that Jesus is God. I agree that we SDAs should never have started to use the word "Trinity" as a belief, because it carries a lot of baggage. We should have stayed with the biblical "Godhead", but still, that doesn't mean we reject Jesus as God, or the Holy Spirit as God.
@@earlysda
A lot of "Christians" get hung up on the semantics or the "Niceae invented the Trinity" lie. They doubt it because they don't study the word and do the research that will reveal the truth, choosing instead to listen to others.
The Trinity is nothing more than mans attempt to define what we read in scripture. The word of the LORD, the arm of the LORD, the angel of the LORD, the presence of the LORD all point to the eternal Son.
They show up in the Old Testament, starting in Genesis and all throughout, and speak in third person about God and then in the same passage, they speak in first person as though they are God just like Jesus does in the New Testament.
@@earlysda
I am antintrinitarian, but I affirm the Deity of the Lord Jesus Christ based on:
1. The bible informs us that Jesus is our creator (John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16-17). Jesus created *"all things"* (including me and you)....so we can worship him as our creator.
2. The bible EXPLICITLY instructs us to treat him as such (Isaiah 9:6 & John 5:23).
*So your poste is ultimately MISLEADING and FALSE!* All antintrinitarians do not deny the Deity of Jesua Christ!
Trinity is not equal to Jesus deity! That is what many of you have been *brainwashed and indoctrinated to believe.*
But the truth is simple:
If you don't have a single scripture in which:
1. You were EXPLICITLY told or at least encouraged to honor, glorify or praise the Holy Spirit *much less WORSHIP him,*
2. You have at least *one example of a true servant of God in the OT or a first century Christian who worshiped the Holy Spirit* (thus leaving an example for you to follow) or
3. The Holy Spirit himself (or Jesus or the Father ) asked you or at least encouraged you to worship him (as Jesus does ask us for himself at John 5:23 or John 14:1&6 for example).
Then *I am afraid; It is the demons INSTRUCTING YOU to worship the Holy Spirit (1 Timothy 4:1; 1 Corinthians 4:6; 1 John 4:1&6; Romans 10:2-3)!*
Unfortunately, I have to tell you the truth in love! *The bible simply does NOT teach the worship of the Holy Spirit* ..i am sorry...it doesnt.. *but it is satan who wants to be worshipped who mascarades as the Holy Spirit within the false doctrine of trinity, so that he can get you people to inadvertently WORSHIP HIM as well in the FALSE doctrine of trinit.*
Don't let the PhD fool you. Bart Ehrman is also a PhD New Testament scholar and he's an atheist.
Bart Ehrman like to tell lies.
As long as people understand the Holy Spirit is not a separate person from the Father and the Son, you’re on the right track.
@forshizzleinthehizzl wrote:
" As long as people understand the Holy Spirit is not a separate person from the Father and the Son, you’re on the right track. "
How did you come to the conclusion that the Holy Spirit is not separate from the Father and Son?
Nowhere in scripture is the Holy Spirit referred to as a separate person. It’s the power that proceeds forth from the Father. Satan has deceived the churches today with the “3 persons in 1” doctrine.
@@rickdavis2235 Seeing how Jesus said, Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Matthew 28:19
@@LeonTheLion-777 Jesus says so in Matthew 28:19
@@bradbradbury8561
I know the Holy Ghost is a separate person.
Listen to Pastor Andrew Henriques on the true interpretation on the trinity .
You'll be glad you did.
It's too disapponting listening all the time, people so called "Adventist" telling that the trinity has been always a SDA doctrine.
Thanks God, now I realize there''s peiple who talks the Truth about this false doctrine which never belonged to the True Remnant.
God bless you all.
Hello watching from Honduras, i've recently learned about Deity and not trinity. I'm a seventh day adventist. Is there a way I could get a spanish pamphlet of Pr Inglo's presentation? Or a link where I could download more information? Thank you for your cooperation. May the Lord bless you.
Unfortunately many people are divided on this issue and won’t come to light until the resurrection. I see both sides of the argument. It doesn’t appear to be a salvational issue. Those in favor of the “3 in 1” doctrine May believe it is. Either way I don’t see either side denying the Holy Spirit. It’s either a separate person to the godhead or it’s the Spirit of God and His demonstrative power. Too many scriptures are taken out of context to support both sides. I believe this requires a thorough study of the scriptures beginning in Genesis.
That's precisely why Neil C. Wilson told that SDA now was a real catholic church (about when SDA acceoted trinity un Texas SDA general congress in 1980)
The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery. Men cannot explain it, because the Lord has not revealed it to them. Men having fanciful views may bring together passages of Scripture and put a human construction on them, but the acceptance of these views will not strengthen the church. Regarding such mysteries, which are too deep for human understanding, silence is golden. AA 52.1
@josuearvizu4688 We are not trying to explain the nature of the HS but WHO the HS is. It is revealed in the Bible. It is the Spirit OF God and the Spirit of His Son. Study the following Scriptures:
John 14:17-23; Rom. 8:9-11; Col. 1:27; Gal. 4:6; I Cor. 15:45; 2 Cor. 3:17; I John 2:1,2.
The last verses mentioned above uses the word Advocate (for Jesus) which is the same word as Comforter in John 14:16.
See I John 2:1,2.
I watched through the whole presentation but don't fully understand what he stand for? Does he believe in trinity or against it.
No, Trinity.
Ingo good for you now you understand more about the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit, the problem that I found but (i am not totally sure) is you considerer the writing of Helen White as inspired , it is around 10 years ago that realized about the false doctrine of trinity but it is five years ago that I am not more Adventist or Christian. However I believe in the God head as Helen White not because it is in her writings but because it is in the bible. Shalom!
Thank you so much for your testimony and the truth.
Happy Sabbath Bobbi. It was definitely worth the watch. Blessings
This is the verses.
In the bible that mentions about the first day Sabbath after
God gave Moses the.
10 Commandments
In LEVITICUS 23:35-39.
Louvinia
So wait, this is like Seventh-Day adventism without the trinity
One God = YHWH
Begotten Son = Jesus.
👆Mediator👆
*Holy Spirit* is the OMNIPRESENT of the YHWH and Jesus. ~John 14:23-24.
What about reading the whole chapter! How many times must people be told that! Now, read verse 26 and see if your point is still valid! No, it is not!
Praise the Lord God Almighty Amen
We meditate about the famous quote of William Tyndale "God open king's eyes "
It's good to see the trinity idol go. The next one that needs to be looked at is the Roman cross. "THE CRUCIFIX FISH TESTIFIES" Look it up.
How may I obtain a copy of the study you have during your video? A paper about the trinity. I have a friend ,that this would speak to my German sda I am trying to share the OTG with. Please let me know. Thank you and God bless your ministry
As I u/stand it it was Charlemagne the great who proposed to add "filio que" (and from the Son) to the Nicene Creed that finally split the latin and Greek churches.
🙏🙏 Amen,..,
The SDA church in any form is not the remnant church. God has taken it and given it to the Hebrew Roots/ Torah movement. They are teaching all the truths now and have a right understanding of the Law and Grace in the story of salvation. They are the ones that are truly keeping all the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.
Praise God Ingo. The mother of harlots central doctrine is the pagan trinity. Sunday the false sabbath, points to the redefined trinity gods. The true Sabbath points to the One true God!
I am confused. I thought the final issue, according to Ellen White, was the false Sabbath! Does your church (SDCR) believe E.G.W. had the spiritual gift of prophecy?
The Pagan trinity is Father, Mother, Child worship. Completely different.
@@BDB-lt5gd The final issue will be over the Sabbath. The point i wanted to highlight was that the Sabbath is a "sign" that points us and leads our focus to the One True God. It's a Sign post if you like or a contract/covenant....we don't worship the day! We worship the God that Blessed and Hallowed the 7th Day.
Satan has perverted the Sabbath commandment of God. Why? Because he wants to deceive humanity. Satan has also lied about the nature of God & His Son
Ezekiel 20:12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the LORD who sanctifies them.
The Sabbath is not Just a specific day. It is a Holy Day. God Hallowed it. Why? So that we would know Him...reminded every week of Him and His Love for us & our need for Him. Why do we need to stop working? Because, God asked us to stop. So that we would be reminded each week that it is not by our work/labour that we are saved! The Sabbath recognises 1. He created all things & He alone is Holy 2. It is by His work that we are saved. 3. He sanctifies us! 4. He redeems us. 5. His Son Justifies us.
4th Commandment
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Exodus 31:13
Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Those that keep the Sabbath Holy will tell you that Sabbath is not a burden....it is a Blessing and a Gift. To pause and reflect on Him who created and redeemed us.
By altering the Sabbath, The dark powers of Satan have created a fake day of worship to another god. The 1st Day has not been made Holy. Satan conjured up a trinity god.God is Not 3 in 1! He alone is God. He has a son and he communicates with us through His Spirit. John 14:23
23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. John 17:4-6 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was. "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. Revelation 14:12 2 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Hope that helps
Praise God
Ivan, Ellen White often writes of "The Three Great Powers of heaven". Who would that be referring to?
@@earlysda Probably 1John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
"These three are one"
Thank you for knowing us about the doctrine of trinity...why our leaders allow this kind of teachings that comes from babylon?is our church is already in apostasy?is the spirit of God gradually departed in our church?
Thank you brother. I’m new to SDA and was surprised at trinity doctrine. I’m with you!!
I am also a first-generation SDA, the only one in my family, and I am surprised there are fringe SDA churches who do not believe in the Trinity!
@@BDB-lt5gd
Don't join any denomination because all denominations are the Harlot daughters of the Roman Catholic church who is the Mother of organizations.
Rather follow the Restoration ministry of Elijah the prophet that was Promised by the Lord Jesus Christ who said..."Truly Elijah SHALL first come and Restore All things.
It's not a GROUP but one man....
Elijah was one man and than Elisha came in the spirit of Elijah also one man and than John the Baptist came in the spirit and power of Elijah also one man and than in Malachi 4 another prophet will come in the spirit of Elijah also one man.
@@eagleeyes6642it’s not necessarily one man but it’s a message of restoring God’s truth that has been thrown down in ages past. The latter rain will be upon many people prophesying truth to a dying world and then Jesus will come.
Daniel 8:12; Luke 1:16,17; Joel 2:28-32; Revelation 14:1-5; Matthew 24:14. The Three Angels Messages (Rev. 14:6-12) sums up the truth to be restored.
John 1:1
The ward was God
It doesn’t say the ward was son of God
When the ward becomes flesh
In John 1:14
That is when the word is begotten taking human body and nature but without sin and becomes the son of God
Jesus and the father are one
Like husband and wife are one flesh
I hope that God opens your eyes to see the truth like you preached on this subject 9 years ago
The Trinity is a construct of the Catholic Church. Throughout the Bible, 18 in the OT and 10 in the NT, declares there is no other GOD besides me.
Is there an e-copy of the study mentioned, I would be grateful to get one. 🙏
Get the copy of the study here. Blessings www.ingosorke.com/sda/
The SDA church is not Babylon. The Trinity is not Catholic, it's biblical. God bless His church.
I smell something funny Anytime somebody has to change God's Word to back up there belief (1 John 5:7)
Do you know about what this sermon reminds me: i search the hair in the soup!! Revelation 14, 7 it's true that in a german Bible version like Schlachter 2000 and Luther 1985 is no cross-reference to Exodus 20, 8-11 to the Sabbath Commandment - but where's the problem?! That person who reads the Bible in prayer and honestly is able to realize that!!
I struggled with the issue of The Holy Ghost being an entity unto Himself once. I’m not well trained or versed in reading Hebrew nor Greek yet through plain reading i found clear understanding. I don’t claim to understand or know the entirety of this issue but something simple brought peace to my mind. It is as interchangeable with The Holy Ghost as it is with Jesus and The Father. Perhaps the root question can be which came first, God The Father or The Godhead.
I’m sure everyone’s familiar with Levi paying tithe through Abraham. Ironically in this same manner Catholics call the biblical sabbath Jewish which isn’t incorrect. Following the Levi through Abraham model we see Judah in the seed of Adam. So in the creation week God created through the Word in Adam Jews, Spaniards, Vikings, etc. and The Holy Sabbath which God himself defined as a peculiar sign between Himself and his people, who happen to call themselves Jews. In conversation with the woman at the well he contended that the Jews knew what they worshipped, salvation is of the Jews.
Changing lanes, can one become two, and can two become three without division? A single man can marry a woman and father a child and act as a single unit still. Were used to division and selfishness so we’re naturally opposed to this concept though we speak of family and unity. At a root i think it selfish motivation still, but it’s an aside note.
Can a flock of birds borne off the same nest fly in formation towards the same destination? Can an iceberg calve off “new” bergs that flow independently? Are they the exact same material, derived of the same time, accomplishing the same task? And yet we name ice flows and bergs separately charting and recording them as independent masses. And we allow this for inanimate waters but challenge the notion where the spiritual is concerned? If you sever the body of tape worms they have the ability to regrow the missing pieces to regenerate fully.
To question God’s existence before our own demise, without the simple ability to comprehend with a finite mind a never beginning eternity before our creation seems impossible and not about salvation. If I’m drowning with precious moments to spare and someone attempts to pull me to safety, there isn’t enough time to make sure his credentials and prior background checks qualify him to in fact extend his helping hand in the first place.
But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. Romans 8
This is spot on.
Very nice conversion story. God bless. 🙏🏾🙏🏾
If other doctrines have crept into the church then the sda cannot be the remnant anymore.
The SDA NEVER was and NEVER will be the remnant church, for they have a cursed gospel and a fake jesus
@shemnetto4128 What is the source for this supposed quote from the Almighty God?
"We need to protect the institution " wow forget about the scriptures...
KJV Revelation 22:1
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
QUESTION:
Where is the trinity in this verse, I see The Father and His Son only no 3rd person 🤔
Bendiciones desde Panamá
From one German to a other I say your doing a great job
Danke!
Little strange. At the same time as you began qustening the Trinity many other world-wide started doing the same. I also here in Denmark. I don.t know how to connect to other OTG's and how to deal with the nominal advent church?
I'm from South America. I also discovered this truth in 2014.
@@Paulina-pu5sv We are from the USA and also found this message in 2014! It partly happened because we had walked away from God and SDA for about 30 years. When we came back to God we hadn't really been indoctrinated by the SDA stand, so we had no issue understanding the truth about a trinity.
It's called the falling away/apostasy
@@lindamyers8475please tell me what is the truth is it Three in one or one in three ?
I really don’t understand and I want to know
@@elviraroberts876 There are TWO: God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ, and their Holy Spirit.
Please can I ask for a copy too. Thank you for your dedication. Continue the good work.
Amen. May God help our brethren to see.
Wonderful story !
What gospel do Adventists believe in any one know?
NOTE: OUR:
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
In Genesis 1:26 God was speaking to Jesus (His Son). Several NEW Testament texts prove this to be so.
For instance, John 1:1-3; Hebrews 1:1-2; Ephesians 3:9 and Colossians 1:15-17
How can a serious lover of the truth can believe in a triune gods ??? Wake up.
1. EUSEBIUS (C. 260-C. 340) was the Bishop of Caesarea and is known as “the Father of Church History.” Although he wrote prolifically, his most celebrated work is his Ecclesiastical History, a history of the Church from the Apostolic period until his own time. Today it is still the principal work on the history of the Church at that time. Eusebius quotes many verses in his writings, and Matthew 28:19 is one of them. He never quotes it as it appears today in modern Bibles, but always finishes the verse with the words “IN MY NAME.” For example, in Book III of his History, Chapter 5, Section 2, which is about the Jewish persecution of early Christians, we read:
But the rest of the apostles, who had been incessantly plotted against with a view to their destruction, and had been driven out of the land of Judea, went unto all nations to preach the Gospel, RELYING UPON THE POWER OF CHRIST, WHO HAD SAID TO THEM, “GO YE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL THE NATIONS IN MY NAME.”
Again, in his Oration in Praise of Emperor Constantine, Chapter 16, Section 8, we read:
What king or prince in any age of the world, what philosopher, legislator or prophet, in civilized or barbarous lands, has attained so great a height of excellence, I say not after death, but while living still, and full of mighty power, as to fill the ears and tongues of all mankind with the praises of his name? Surely none save our only Saviour has done this, when, after his victory over death, he spoke the word to his followers, and fulfilled it by the event, saying to them, “GO YE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF ALL NATIONS IN MY NAME.”
Eusebius was present at the council of Nicaea and was involved in the debates about Arian teaching and whether Christ was God or a creation of God. We feel confident that if the manuscripts he had in front of him read “in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” he would never have quoted it as “in my name.” Thus, we believe that the earliest manuscripts read “IN MY NAME,” and that the phrase was enlarged to reflect the orthodox position as Trinitarian influence spread.
2. If Matthew 28:19 is accurate as it stands in modern versions, then there is no explanation for the apparent disobedience of the apostles, since there is not a single occurrence of them baptizing anyone according to that formula. All the records in the New Testament show that people were baptized into the name of the Lord Jesus, just as the text Eusebius was quoting said to do. In other words, the “name of Jesus Christ,” i.e., all that he represents, is the element, or substance, into which people were figuratively “baptized.” “Peter replied, ‘Repent and be baptized, every one of you, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE FORGIVENESS OF YOUR SINS’” (Acts 2:38). “They had simply been baptized into the NAME OF THE LORD JESUS” (Acts 8:16). “So he ordered that they be baptized in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST” (Acts 10:48). “On hearing this, they were baptized into THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS” (Acts 19:5). We cannot imagine any reason for the Apostles and others in Acts to disobey a command of the risen Christ. To us, it seems clear that Christ said to baptize in his name, and that was what the early Church did.
PHILIPPIANS 2 9 THEREFORE GOD EXALTED HIM TO THE HIGHEST PLACE, AND GAVE HIM THE NAME ABOVE ALL NAMES, 10 THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND UNDER THE EARTH,
TO THE GLORY OF GOD THE FATHER.
[FOR THEY ARE ONE - ONE SPIRIT - THROUGH ALL AND IN ALL.]
GOD BLESS YOU AND MAY THE PEACE OF JESUS CHRIST THE PRINCE OF PEACE BE WITH YOU ALWAYS..
“Ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you; and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.” “All power is given unto Me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost; teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you; and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world.” Just before He left them, Christ gave His disciples this promise of the Holy Spirit, and while the words were upon His lips, He ascended. A cloud of angels received Him, and escorted Him to the city of God. The disciples returned to Jerusalem, knowing now that Jesus was indeed the Son of God. Their faith was unclouded, and they waited for the fulfilment of the promise, preparing themselves by prayer for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. ST September 20, 1899
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You are lost!
I challenge any SDA to:
A. Show me any single bible verse where the trinity is EXPLICITLY stated (other than spurious verse in 1 John 5:7 - by the way, the fact that this verse was inserted into the KJV in violation of Revelation 22:18, speaks volumes about the truthfulness of trinity).
B. Show a single verse in which the Holy Spirit requested to be honored as Jesus does in John 5:23 for example) *much less to be worshipped!* If he did not request you to make him a god and worship him, who do you think told you to worship in the trinity? The devil?
C. The bible tell us EXPLICITLY that the Father created *"all things"* : Revelation 4:11; Ephesians 3:9. It also tells us that Jesus created all things: John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17. Now not withstanding that 1 Corinthians 8:5-6 explains how and why we have two entries described as "creator" *can you provide us a single scripture in which the Holy Spirit created something or one thing, much less created "all things"?*
D. Whenever, I ask trinitarians to show me a single scriptures, the take me to scriptures like Mathew 28:19 or 2 Corinthians 13:14,etc.. and point out that they are mentioned together and hence trinity. Then I ask:
1. What about where two of these are mentioned together with other entities other than one of these(Luke 9:26 [why doesn't Jesus also come in the glory of the Holy Spirit]; 1 Timothy 5:21[why is the Holy Spirit not a witness here])?
2. What about scriptures where only two are mentioned together and one of them is omitted (John 14:1 John 17:3; 1 Corinthians 8:5-6; *Revelation 5:11-14* )? What about these scriptures? Where is the Holy Spirit in these scriptures?
Where can i get this quotes , can i download them on a website, is there a book about it , please let me know , i pray in the name of Jesus ,amen
Very, very good message. Thank you !!!!!!!!
I have a question dear pastor, do you believe in the Holy Spirit ? Elena White she call to Jesus, God and Holy Spirit , Divine Deity, are you accept this this name for the Divine Being? Thanks for your answer
Yes, I believe in the Holy Spirit. I am not sure what you are asking in the second part of your question . . . please rephrase! References? I honestly want to understand what you are asking so I can respond appropriately. Thanks! Español ok tambien.
I will give one reason why many have accepted this teaching:They have relied on their own wits.
Prov 3:5-6: "Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths."
Pray that he will give you wisdom and understanding. This teaching is a false doctrine. Ellen White writes that the Sabbath will be the final touchstone. I have hung in the doctrine myself.
How can I get that Study that you are showing in your hands ? Thanks … 😎
2, 3 (Acts 20:28). A Wide Field for Church Leaders.--God is not glorified by leaders in the church who seek to drive the sheep. No, no. "Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind; neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being ensamples to the flock. There is a wide field for the elders and the helpers in every church. They are to feed the flock of God with pure provender, thoroughly winnowed from the chaff, the poisonous mixture of error. You who have any part to act in the church of God, be sure that you act wisely in feeding the flock of God; for its prosperity much depends upon the quality of this food (MS 59, 1900). {7BC 942.6}
3. See EGW on Psalm 89:14. {7BC 942.7}
6. See EGW on James 4:10. {SDA Bible Commentary Vol7, Chapter 5}
Wonderful presentation! Looking forward to meeting you at the Spokane, WA camp meeting in September!
excellent sermon!
Fellowship, who are the "three great powers of heaven" that Ellen White often writes of?
@@earlysda The Father (God), The Son (God), and their Spirit. Two Gods and their divine spirit. "The Father and the Son Alone are to be exalted." E.G. White, YI, July 7, 1898.
@@EverlastingWayAdventFellowship Fellowship: So you are not a One True God believer. OK. That is interesting. Your remark about "Two Gods" is serious error tho, showing you do not understand the Holy Bible, and don't believe what Jesus said: John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?
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Your remark regarding the Holy Spirit is contradicting what God had Ellen White say:
"Now a little point. As the saints in the kingdom of God are accepted in the beloved, they hear: “Come, ye blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.” [Matthew 25:34.] And then the golden harps are touched, and the music flows all through the heavenly host, and they fall down and worship the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." Ms139 1906.
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Please repent (if possible) and start following the three great powers of heaven.
"THE CRUCIFIX FISH TESTIFIES" Look it up
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