And they miss the point of the entire scriptures which is to proclaim Jesus Jesus is In all of the scriptures John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus's birth Micah 5 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 2:5 (KJV) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, Jesus's suffering Psalm 22 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns Jesus arriving In Jerusalem Zechariah 9:9 (KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Matthew 21:5 (KJV) 21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. John 12:14-15 (KJV) 12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Psalm 22 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns ************************ Psalm 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Psalm 34:20 (KJV) He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. John 19:36 (KJV) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Judas: Psalm 41:9 (KJV) Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me. Psalm 55 12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: 13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. 14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company Zec 11 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD Matthew 26: 14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him Crucifixion Psalm 22:18 (KJV) They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. Luke 23:34 (KJV) Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalm 22:1 (KJV) [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? Mark 15:34 (KJV) And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 26:54 (KJV) But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? Matthew 26:56 (KJV) But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. Mark 14:49 (KJV) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:32 (KJV) And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? Luke 24:45 (KJV) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words Acts 2 29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ Acts 18:28 (KJV) For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 1:2 (KJV) (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Romans 16:26 (KJV) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Matthew 2:23 (KJV) And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 11:13 (KJV) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
How do you know this verse is related to Jesus? Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Jesus was not the only one in history to ever get crucified and pierced. This method of execution was popular back in their days. And Jesus was not the first one to ever get executed. Anyone who would get executed can explain the situation with this same verse. Why this verse fits Jesus only?!
@@sinan_islam The bible and Jesus tells us so Luke 1:70 (KJV) As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began: Luke 10:24 (KJV) For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them]. Luke 16:31 (KJV) And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 18:31 (KJV) Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. Luke 24:25 (KJV) Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Luke 24:44 (KJV) And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me. John 1:45 (KJV) Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph. Acts 3:18 (KJV) But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. Acts 3:21 (KJV) Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. Acts 3:24 (KJV) Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. Acts 13:27 (KJV) For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled [them] in condemning [him]. Acts 26:22 (KJV) Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 3:21 (KJV) But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Ephesians 2:20 (KJV) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone]; Hebrews 1:1 (KJV) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 1 Peter 1:10 (KJV) Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you:
That's okay as far as it goes, it's just what we do with the news and most everything else. But the questions should be answered to your own satisifaction by honest study of what Jesus has done and why, by reading the Bible.
WRT "...They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear..." yeah, the MAGA heads enthusiastic about donald trump, seem to be of a similar mentality. I guess a tweaked version of reality makes them feel better about how little they have accomplished in their lives or something. Not that Trump would especially value anything they do, other than help to inflate his own ego.
Jesus is In all of the scriptures John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Jesus's birth Micah 5 2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Matthew 2:5 (KJV) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet, Jesus's suffering Psalm 22 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns Jesus arriving In Jerusalem Zechariah 9:9 (KJV) Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. Matthew 21:5 (KJV) 21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass. John 12:14-15 (KJV) 12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt. Psalm 22 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. 20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog. 21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns ************************ Psalm 118:22 (KJV) The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner. Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Psalm 34:20 (KJV) He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken. John 19:36 (KJV) For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken. Judas: Psalm 41:9 (KJV) Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me. Psalm 55 12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him: 13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance. 14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company Zec 11 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD Matthew 26: 14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests, 15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver. 16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him Crucifixion Psalm 22:18 (KJV) They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. Luke 23:34 (KJV) Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Psalm 22:16 (KJV) For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. Psalm 22:1 (KJV) [[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring? Mark 15:34 (KJV) And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 26:54 (KJV) But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? Matthew 26:56 (KJV) But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. Mark 14:49 (KJV) I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled. Luke 24:27 (KJV) And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:32 (KJV) And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? Luke 24:45 (KJV) Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, John 5:39 (KJV) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words Acts 2 29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. 34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, 35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool. 36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ Acts 18:28 (KJV) For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ. Acts 28:23 (KJV) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening. Romans 1:2 (KJV) (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Romans 16:26 (KJV) But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: 1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV) For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV) And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Matthew 2:23 (KJV) And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene. Matthew 5:17 (KJV) Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. Matthew 11:13 (KJV) For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
@@helengraham7472 The great white throne is not here yet. You take salvation so lightly. Jesus did not. Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6. Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online. 'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted. Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15. Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, pride hates it! When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners. Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5. Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15. When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus. PS. Other apostles were baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
The following is brilliant. When Erhman asked his students how many of them believed the Bible is the inspired word of God, the entire class put up their hands. When Erhman asked them how many of them had read the Bible from cover to cover, only a few hands went up. Ehrman commented, “You’d think that if people believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, they would want to know what God had to say.”
It's a very important point. I wonder how many people know the whole Bible completely by heart. I bet the answer is none. If you ask this question about the Qur'an, you'll find many know it completely by heart. In it God says: 'And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?' 54:17
Reading all the books that make up the bible is one sure fired way to end up being an atheist... probably the main reason that the church outlawed anyone having a bible other than ordained priests.
It just confirms that no thought or reflection goes into fundamentalist dogma. I'm a Taoist, but that realization only came to me after having read as much Taoist writing as I could find, many times, and after much reflection and meditation (AKA prayer). It took years. The students referred to here evidently signed on with fundamental Christianity because someone above them in the social hierarchy imparted to them the understanding that it was a good idea. It's unfortunate. What results is a social support network built around aggressive political activism, without understanding, and without any path to Grace. I believe that accounts for the fact that fundamentalists appear to "believe" so many things that contradict the teachings of Jesus (who, BTW, was an ideal Taoist in fact, if not in name).
Unsurprisingly, no Christian in this comment section is actually interesting in addressing anything Erhman is saying. Instead, they just call him wrong. That is not helping me figure out whether he is wrong.
+Ibrahim kd Did you read Sura 19 verse 33? Here you see clearly, that the Quran is lying, because Muslims claim, that Jesus never died and also said, that Jesus did never sin, so He did not lie.
Well, we as Christians know, that not everyone has to die and that there is an everlasting life and the resurrection. Tell me the reason, why Jesus would have to die, when HE never sinned? What sense would life make in the end, when there is no everlasting life?
What would Jesus be judged for? According to the Quran, Jesus was never touched by the devil, so HE never sinned. What right would God have to judge him and what for. That doesn't make sense to me at all.
I’ve challenged a few people on this now and they had absolutely no idea there were any discrepancies at all. They didn’t even believe me when I told them.
@NotTheMaestro They didn't believe you? Why should that bother you if what you want is to make them not believe something? Oh, I get it-they should not believe only what YOU want don't want them to believe, LOL! That's called "manipulation".
That's because they are indoctrinated. Its hard to reach people like that because they more than likely were taught that as kids and grew up around people they were close to who had the same views.
Dont believe “Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.” Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
@@theHentySkepticYuuuuup. That's the point, eh? UA-cam, Online, Schoolbook, Religious Book, Pastor, intellectual..... use your intellect, reason, logic discernment and your own experience with the words of advice... with any and everything you hear, read- no matter the source. Obviously UA-cam would be included. "But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Because Joseph would have been the king if the Israelites had been a free people since the days of David. His son, whether natural or adopted would the also have become the rightful king.
Genealogy comes from the father not the mother. If a jewish woman merried a none jew man the child will be a jew with out a tribe. Adoption does not apply. Since Joseph is not the father of j.c., he does not belong to no tribe of juda where the messiah is to come from the line of king David and his son king Salomon. Unless, the Holy Spirite is from the tribe of juda? And it it's o.k. for Mary to commit adultery breaking one commandment with a spirit.... That by the way the guardians that laid with the daughters of man before the flood are in prison awaiting judgment for there transgression.
@@sophiamcl -- actually no, Joseph was not in line to be king at all. Matthew says Jacob was the father of Joseph, while Luke tells us Heli was the father of Joseph. The bloodlines are complete fiction, what makes you think any of it is true?
JAMFamily How? And which version of the Bible? The Coptic bible? The King James Bible? The NIV? The ARV? If he did then he’s shitty at it and can’t be maximally great.
It takes even more “stamina” come to life after you’ve been killed. You stand 2000 years later in a culture that is so alien to that of the Roman empire and act as if people didn’t know how to use their ears and transcribe the words and actions of events surrounding them. We have exhaustive records of various battles that took place all over the Roman empire and you don’t think someone could have potentially written down what they were observing in a public crucifixion? We think we are the pinnacle of intellect sitting in the 21st-century, yet our ancestors created miraculous and complex systems and structures that still amaze us today. Maybe gain a tiny bit of perspective before saying no one could have done something when you probably have done little to no research on the subject and don’t seem to have an appreciation for the capabilities of the ancient people of our planet.
@@scotthannan8669 Sure, someone could have, assuming they were part of the small number of people who could write. But if they did, we haven't found any trace of those writings, not even rumors. So ... maybe get a bit of perspective yourself?
Or maybe, given that it was inspired by the Almighty God, creator of the universe, it is not quite as easy to read as Dan Brown. Seems reasonable to me.
@@sphagbog Why would god make it so difficult to read, so confusing ... surely the whole point of a book is to educate , to clarify , not to confuse people
i understand that but listen to this, your flesh does not want to hear anything about God! that’s why you’re uninterested. this is what romans 3:11-18 says: “there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” “Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.” “The poison of vipers is on their lips.” “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.” “Their feet are swift to shed blood; ruin and misery mark their ways, and the way of peace they do not know.” “There is no fear of God before their eyes.” so no one in their flesh understands God, no one in their flesh even seeks God, their is no fear of God in their eyes, they all tuned away and became worthless. this is true! but look at what james 4:6-10 says: “But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.” Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.” so we need to be humble, we need to realize we might be wrong. we need to realize that God might be real and that we sinned against that Holy and Perfect God. deuteronomy 4:29 says this: “But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.” well maybe you just don’t want to truly find God, and i think i understand that. but listen to this, it’s the best thing that will ever happen in your life. it might be scary, you might have to give up your pride or even your life. but Jesus said in luke 9:24: “for whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Me will save it.” you might not even understand how that could make any sense. but if you just take that leap in the light and truth you will be set free from whatever you have right now and be given something that your mind right now can’t understand. the grace of God and His love for you. john 3:16-21 says: “for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.” and romans 10:9-13 says “If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” now idk if you ever read the bible much, but i suggest that you read at least 1 of the 4 gospels matthew, mark, luke, or john. and see what’s true, humble yourself and seek God. taste and see that the Lord is good. faith comes by hearing the word of God, God loves you so much and has thoughts of peace and not of evil for you! God wants to give you a new life, and for you to walk the streets of gold in His kingdom forever.
I really respect this man. He doesn’t force his beliefs or criticize. He just give the information and leave it up to the listener. I as s believer love listening to him
@Nasir Aameen Wait, as a “believer” you love listening to a guy who is a non believer, that denies and blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ name and slanders the truth about the deity of Christ?🤦🏾♂️ you are definitely a Luke Warm Christian. Revelation 3:15-17 (KJV) “”15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:”” A true Believer should never “love” listening to someone blaspheme Gods name.
well he's a scholar and doesn't believe what he has studied. Seems he can't come to grips with natural laws that God created. Yin/yang, good/bad, happiness/sadness. He thinks God can only exist if the world were ice cream cones and puppy tails.
To be a believer, you must be born again, new creature, called Regeneration. Webster 1828 Dictionary formerly named, Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary Regeneration: Reproduction, the act of making new. In Theology; new birth by the grace of God.; that change by which the natural enmity of man toward God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are IMPLANTED in the heart. He saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3.
@@AtreyuKhalilevery quote you use is incorrect and has no relation to any original text. You can't blaspheme something that wasn't correct to begin with.
This man blew my world! I don't know if that's good or bad. God gave us a mind. Yet the majority of pastors act offended when you question them. Bart cause's me to think and ask the hard questions. He is truly a brilliant man.
No two different persons can be exactly the same because the creator made them beautifully, wonderfully and fearfully the same ; every person is unique. Jesus is the only perfect man to follow.
Greetings from Brazil! The day after I returned from my summer vacation at the beach, seven years ago, I decided to study Catholic Theology, Koine Greek and the Coptic language. Under the umbrella and in the apartment I had read in those 15 days "Misquoting Jesus" and Elaine Pagels' "The Gnostic Gospels" (both in Portuguese). Twice each. The experience has been addictive. Thank you, Dr. Bart.
Why stop there. Why not read the word of God? The incomparable worf of God. Not all bibles are inspired! So I speak only of the one that is: In Psalm 12:6-7 God said He preserved His word. The others do not. The Authorized Version, later called the King James Bible, shows God truly wants to know you as His! The Bible was written by over 40 writers of various backgrounds over a span of about 1500 years, written in the continents of Asia, Africa and Europe in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, [the Masoretic text]. The New Testament [Antioch,Textus Receptus] was written in Greek. They fit perfectly together to unfold the drama of redemption!!! There are approximently 24,000 ancient copies of portions of the new testament. These are supported by writings of the church theologians in the first four centuries. There is also external evidence: Tacitus, a Roman historian, and Josephus, a Jewish historian. Both support bible accounts. This book is not about stories, which are now viewed as fictional, but are true life events. THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PERFECTLY FULFILLED PROPHECIES. Fulfilled by Jesus. HISTORICAL ACCURACY. Many, many about Israel. Some being fulfilled even in our time. Also, Prophecy of Cyrus and prophecy of the city of Tyrus. Also: 101 SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE. God wrote about science thousands of years before man did. He tells us ahead of time so that we will know that He is God.
I would suggest that you read some books that counter professor Bart's thesis to see if his claims hold up under rigorous scholarly scrutiny. That's what is missing in this video. No one to give a counter argument.
@@tonysienzant6717 this is taught in every NT studies class on earth. Even the evangelical ones know this stuff… they just excuse it… you preacher ( if they went to theological school ) knows this too… they just don’t tell you about it. 😉
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. Quran 2 : 79
Here I am. ARIAN. The Elect One from EZRA. Hidden in plain sight the truth was to all of you yet none of you are without excuse to the sin you’ve done against my Father. The unforgivable sin. The Revelation of Daniel I as eye witness fulfilled. Yet as a thief in the night. I hide like my Father commanded. The Final Hour has come. From declaration of the God of Jacob. Selah.
Although there's some doubt as to his authorship, Peter knew Jesus...I guess. I mean who knows if these people even existed? Actually, now that I think about it, the notable historian, Josephus, recorded Jesus' crucifixion and, I believe, he may have mentioned the altercation at the temple. That's really the most reliable evidence that we have, at all, of Jesus' existence. The Gospels, themselves, are problematic at best. Nevertheless, people have managed to pull a narrative together that satisfies them. I wish it was that easy for me "to believe". I feel a deep need for God in my life. And, being raised Catholic, I feel a strong inclination to believe that The Son of God is real. I'm as doubtful as anyone though...and my primary passion is for The Truth. I can't force myself to adopt such a serious a conviction just because "Grandma & Grandpa believed it". I'm paraphrasing the author of, "The Historical Figure of Jesus" (whose name escapes me), who says that "while Jesus is enormously popular today...He wasn't a particularly important person during His own lifetime." Be well.
so if they are so frequently self contradictory, why would you regard them as "inspired" in the first place. The bare fact that the "originals" of the NT texts apparently no longer exist, would be the strongest evidence that the proto-nicene church CHANGED WHAT THEY SAID even if originally they were "closer to correct" by some unseen standard.
@@Chomper750 or test your beliefs when they seem very out of sync with observable reality. since "faulty" is in the eyes only of him/her who dares to QUESTION the vast claims of miraculous integrity.
@@tracyavent-costanza346I love Jesus, i love his teachings. Religious texts are written as a narrative. Sometimes Christ says "only the evil generation will ask for signs" and sometimes cast out Demons from pigs testify to him "Son of God, you have come early to punish us.?" I believe one to be true and reject the other because it sounds stupid.
There are literally no writings about Jesus until 40 years after his supposed death....does anybody remember anything anybody said accurately after 40 years?...an entire generation
Actually, Messianic creeds about the life, miracles, death and resurrection of JESUS were circulating 2-3 years after JESUS ascended into Heaven. The Book of Galatians was written in 47 or 48 AD. The Koran wasn't written for almost 200 years after the death of Mohammed.
@@proverbalizer no, you were misleading. JESUS was crucified around 33 AD. So the first New Testament book was written 14-15 years later. As I previously mentioned, writings about JESUS were widely circulated within 2 or 3 years of HIS ascension. The evidence for JESUS is overwhelming if you are willing to examine it
@@J0HN_3_16Hadiths(life of prophet and what he said/did) were put together after 200 years yes, but 1) this statement is an oversimplification 2) Hadith is what people have said about the Prophet, which is the reason why Muslims don't take Hadiths as Quran- which Muslims claim is the book from god, that was written and complied while the prophet was alive. I'd suggest be more careful and do ur research before you say anything so confidently, that's our responsibility as human beings, thank you:)
If he has this much interest in disclaiming Jesus What do you think he would find if he asked the Lord to come to him .He will find that the power that hit my being will hit his.Now he has to ask "what is this Spirit?It is The Holy Spirit and it saves.To people who don t believe the Gospel is foolishness.But to those being saved it s the power of God to Salvation.
1 Corinthians 2:14 “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” King James Version (KJV)
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That works both ways.. like a double edged sword, though one side seems duller than the other..and usually from eithers side. The difference betwix the 2 that I have gleened in my half century of existence is this:The one who reads and understands the basic tenets of the Bible know they are bad people trying to be good; what righteousness they know and do, they learn from God. those who don't read it, think they are good though do much bad without even knowing it, which is only natural, being self-righteous.
Não tenho certeza se é o mesmo livro em que a palestra é baseada (Misquoting Jesus), mas você pode ler o livro dele "O que Jesus disse? O que Jesus não disse?" que basicamente cobre os mesmos temas e mais detalhadamente
Paul wrote his musings within 10 to 20 years of crucifixion and much of Mark may have been heavily influenced by his "inspiration ". Nevertheless how can one know what actually went down when there have been so many copies of copies and insertions not to mention all the actions considered miracles. Then there is condoning slavery in the good book. Just too difficult to reconcile the damnation of non knowers and non believers. Keep it easy to understand: treat others the way you want to be treated. Not sure how that works for those who do not have the basics of food shelter water and safety. With all of my doubts I still beg for wisdom, grace, and understanding.
Even simple mistakes in punctuation can change the meaning of a phrase or sentence completely! This is true even in modern languages which are usually less precise than ancient languages. Some concepts and words have no direct translation at all in other languages and must be paraphrased. Different scribes would have done this differently and could change the meaning completely.
I'm in awe of this man's ability to reference facts, verses, other people's work AND the vast amount of historical data needed to speak with authority. I have trouble remembering who I met last week!
I mean, if it was your passion and livelihood to remember the names of the people you met last week, and you set aside time to prepare to give a presentation on the names of people you've met, I bet you'd fare much better. And I bet you have some kind of passion that you know a lot about, without having to look things up!
"Theologians show no interest in textual criticisms at all. No knowledge, no interest it." In other words, the people who claim to understand the word of the gods don't understand how those words got there in the first place.
My question is about the witnesses, like in the birth of Jesus, the baptism of Jesus, the temptation of Jesus, and the trial of Jesus. In all of these occasions, which appear in all four gospels though different, my question is how do the authors, qualify the statements of the four when the four weren't there to witness any of these events. Nobody would have went into Pilate's place where Jesus' trials were taking place, as with the other things mentioned. Sorry, bad punctuation, I'm no scholar.
Luk 1:1-4 (1) Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, (2) Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word; (3) It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, (4) That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
AmandaBrecc the gospel of John’s author (John), declares, “35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.” John 19:35 Super important!
The author of Revelation makes a similar declaration so I believe those two books and build my foundation of doctrine from those two books. Those are the only two books I consider scripture in the NT
Other members are Chairman Mao who murdered 80 to 100 million people and Stalin who murdered 20 million people And why not. Jesus gives value to people by His sacrificial act of love. The incarnate God offered His flesh, His sinless flesh, as a payment for our sins. This is while we were yet sinners. His enemies. "The heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it?. Yrs, it hss a natural enmity toward God and a strong love for self It wants to rule! Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6. Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online. 'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted. Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15. Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, PRIDE HATES IT. When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners. Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5. Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15. When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus. PS. The other apostles were already baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2. Read His preserved word, the Authorized Version later called the King James Bible.
Watch Cold Case Christianity William Warner Wallace. Alsi David Wood if you are looking for truth, or you can continue listening to what you want to believe but this guy does not have a sound basis for the bible at all, sadly for him
He really does mislead his popular audiences though - people who don’t have much context to know how his points are pretty empty. Lots of scholars have pointed this out.
@@amandadewet4022 I think this guy saying the true he studied well the bible well then any Christian David wood just talking about Islam not Christianity they bring everything out off context and explain it by their own way
He got the audience to laugh because there are thousands of variations, as if that meant the Gospels were completely unreliable, then told them actually most of them didn't matter becaus they didn't alter the meaning. So it turned out it wasn't funny after all.
God has the last laugh. I know you have contempt for God's word, that is a normal attitude of the natural heart. Jeremiah 17:9. "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it,?" When God stops inviting you to walk with Him, then the door of mercy is closed. "But thou, O LORD, shall laugh at them, thou shall have all the beathen in derision." Psalm 59:8. He is a compassionate God. Simply ask Him if He is true. If you wan tg Him to reveal Himself to you, He will.
@@judyswiderski2682 The bible is not a self proving document anymore than anyother religous text. So..... Prove the supernatural events claimed in the pages are real using facts and evidence but b/s. Be the very first Christian to do that
You are so enlightening. Finding the history of the Bible and how it came about I think it’s so important. I wish current day so-called christians would study why they believe instead of worrying about the new dress they are going to wear to church on Sunday. It seems they care more about what they do one day a week than why they do it. I find the history of the Bible fascinating and I’m learning a lot thanks to Bart. Thanks Bart. In case you don’t know it you and your hard work are very much appreciated. I only wish more people would hear your lectures.
I read it couple of times o.t/n.t. (yes also genealogy) but yes, i also have experienced christians focusing at what they like, making those favourites their religion.. Why am I even commenting
The thing about “the bible” is it was never intended to be a single book and there are so many books that have been taken out of it. Not to mention all the translation errors both accidental and intentional. It’s a wonder how anyone takes any of them to be 100% the word of any god.
Mistranslated words can have big impact. Young maiden was translated to virgin. Big impact. Reed sea was translated to red sea, another major mistake. To them it was small mistake, since those texts were written for that populace of that time and place
The Q&A portion of this video is outstanding. I don't think Dr. Ehrman is among the best scholarly presenters I've listened to, but he certainly handled the diverse set of questions extraordinarily well. His responses in the Q&A really demonstrated the depth of his knowledge in the subject area.
Ironically, I found myself watching this video after the president of a baptist theological seminary and a Presbyterian minister both affirmed what Bart said. That we have no original autographs of the scriptures and the bible I have is not inerrant. Why would they tell me this? You ask. They were both making arguments against exclusive psalmolody in worship. If we have no inspired textx then we cannot sing inspired songs.
The real question is, would the Bible be actually less questionable or more questionable if all the texts had all the facts exactly the same, given what we know about eyewitness accounts, memory, pov, etc?
God can create all things which is quite an accomplishment but is'nt capable of seeing that his word comes down to us accurately ?? Sorry, don't buy it.........
Its only a life line to heavens for the willing and not the subject of a mocking contest , just in case someone is looking for the truth and bothers to understand its intended message which is simple and easy for everyone to understand .
@@Gp39454 It has not stayed the same. Deal with it. And He seemingly wanted to be clearer on not mixing fabrics than on exceptions from when you can buy people?
@@cjtjets5941 but not all the kids will be christians. i don;t believe in christianity but i think it might be a bit contrevorsial to force our opinion on others. everyone canhave an opinion. though this one is clearly teh right opinion
@@ahmednabeel1114 wrote: " i don;t believe in christianity but i think it might be a bit contrevorsial to force our opinion on others." What on earth makes you think that being TAUGHT about a different way of viewing an ancient supposedly holy book is equivalent to having an "opinion" FORCED onto students????? While we're on the subject, it's scholarly work, so MORE than a mere 'opinion'!
After 50 minutes of lecture, a dense but clear expose, still some 40 minutes of Q&A ... by default going in various directions, but still an effort. Quality!
(Quran 4v46) Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] places and say, "We hear and disobey" and "Hear but be not heard" and "Rāʿinā," twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], "We hear and obey" and "Wait for us [to understand]," it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allāh has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few.
Mosytof what i called the bible is the jewbook or Torah that gas *Absolutely_Nothing* yo do with the way of christ which is now extinct which is why there *aew_no so-called 'christians whatsoever. Quite why the money bags decided ed to tack the jusussey onypo the jewbook is a complete mystery, because the two are wholly unrelated. M y gues is that the money bags t thoughtthe jesussey to brief given that it cn be read in an after noon, and since they woere flogginh r tying to make money out of the way of christ(now completely extinct)they supposed buys wou;ld ant a bit more for their money and the en thought thought thwy would jazzit al up eith a bit of magic so thereinsrrtyed the resurection lie into it which was stupod becsuse it is impossible and *Uterly _Irelevant to i or anything to do with the way of christ, my gus is they though a bit of magic would impres the peasants or Elsies, wh love a bit of magic,but the money bsgs clerly over looked two things: posibiility and relevance and their rsurrection lie fals at boith fences, becuse even the elsies or Lwer Clases know that the dead and buried*stay* ded and biuried,and of course anything supposed too have taken place *After* the death of a teacher could not possibly be relevsnt to what he taught *Before he was for himself dstroyed for ever, but the money bags clearly thought a bit of magic would jazz up a othereise rather dreary bundle of anecdotes was a silly lie because it is impossible and wholly implausible particularly in hot countries where decomposition which begins as soon as the heart stops beating proceeds rather rapidly and the only way any one would detect the poor jesus chap would have been by smell., which no amount of frankincense or myrrh would hide. The soft tissues go first then the belly explodes from the build up of gasses and that is*very* messy and stinky *indeed*.
When you see this kind of lecture by great christian scholar proving that there was 1, 2, 3 or rather more cases of story development and addition of what wasn't there before.... you know what! this is what God tells us 1400 yrs ago... woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, "this is from God'',
Bert Ehrmam believes that the gospels teach that Jesus is God and that Jesus was crucified.. What do Muslims cherry-pick information more from? Ehrman or the Bible?
Just caught this what, 10 years too late? Fascinating talk. Great Q&A as well. You're making me curious about history, in general, and that's a win for you. I'll look for your lecture circuit next, if you have one.
Mark’s gospel says “Father why have you forsaken me” is Jesus quoting Psalm 22, it’s not like he could just say “this is fulfilling Psalm 22”, he had to quote it then those around him could fill in the blanks
But here’s the shit you lot never ask. Why only “My god, my god, why have you forsaken me”? Why make that passage specifically his last words in Mark and Matthew?
Allan Hegyes Bart the pedantic one here....all his knowledge is but child’s play !!! The questioners asked clever questions that Bart couldn’t answer !!!
Yes, because your religion is above reproach and no one can question the immutable and infallible word of your Lord. Yes, how petty of these questioners to even imply the most minor of inconsistencies in your perfect scriptures.
@dom com. He neither claims to be, nor is he perceived as, a "prophet" in any way, so maybe you should beware of wrong assumptions before spouting them.
Am I the only person who thinks that more than one person would copy the original book of Mark from him rather than make copies of the copies? Therefore there would be more than 1 accurate copies of the original which Mark would have been alive to correct error for a while too? Let’s say the first copy is copy A. Bart is saying a copy B would be of copy A. Why can’t copy B be of the original too. Why jump to say copy B is of copy A?
Even if you are right - this doesn't change the situation. Lets assume that the first copy of Mark is A1. Then the next copy is FROM MARK'S ORIGINAL A2, and so on. Then we have a number of first hand copies from Mark, A1, A2, A3, A4... which let's assume for the sake of argument are identical (though it's extremely unlikely). These copies will be distributed among the faithful, far afield, and themselves become copied. So even if the 'first generation' of copies are exact copies of Mark, subsequent copies (B1, C1, D1..) will drift as described. At some point someone is copying a copy - not Marks' text!
It is presumptively accepted that many copies would have been made from the “original”written text. There is no presumption that mark would have proofed every (or any) of those copies. As the original texts have not been discovered and overwhelmingly likely to no longer exist, there is no verifiable way to establish that any texts are an accurate copy of the original. There is only accepted/credible means of deducing if a text is more probable to contain fewer inaccuracies and deviations from the original. Never underestimate the potential for human error to change the course of Mankind as it is, was, & will be.
@SuperDukka You have some really bad misunderstandings. I would advise you to think objectively about all those points.. If you can refute them yourself, they aren't valid points.. Keep in mind that a carnal person is always going to have difficulty understanding words inspired by Spirit-filled men.
@SuperDukka If you want me to refute any 3 points, pick your top 3 and I will explain them.. Not going to post refutations of 12 points while I'm on mobile.
so I guess there is only one legitimate version of arabic, and everyone who reads arabic script will interpret it the same way. so that explains why there are about a million Imams who teach their own versions of islam.
@@tracyavent-costanza346that's not true I agree that there are Alot of tafsirs(interpretations) for the Quran but imams just lead the prayers and teach kids the orthodoxy stuff and the basic stuff they actually encourage us to memorize and read the Quran with understanding it ourselves
Very informative. Have only been studying the translation of scripture for the past year. I'm atheist. But have a real fascination especially with mistranslation and misunderstanding of translations, more so with modern day bibles.
@@vhawk1951kl The bible is written by man. Even the king James translators stated that they were not inspired by god to translate. Maybe I should have posted agnostic..or gnostic? Just means without or with knowledge. I never said anything about there not being a god. I cannot prove otherwise. Just because I actually enjoy doing something , which is the discrepancies between the hebrew/Greek into English. Or the fact that the bible is taken out of context ALL the time. I just find it really interesting. I definitely don't have to be religious in anyways to do something I find interesting. 😊
This demonstrates how utterly ludicrous it is to say the bible is the 'unerring word of god', when it was obviously not only wrritten by men, but by thousands upon thousands of men who together made countless errors, as well as deliberate changes to suit their own biases. Making those who believe that it is absurdly and pathetically gullible. It's yet further confirmation that people believe what they're told and/or want and choose to believe, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what actually true.
Prof. Ehrman delivers another thought-provoking and logical lecture. This phenomenon of cascading errors in translation and transcription can be axiomatized with Information Theory. Excellent and worthwhile video.
Did he ever get to the part where Christianity was canonized during Constantine’s reign of the Roman Empire where they started carving the gospels up and cutting off complete gospels all together like unwanted limbs? Christianity is probably the most “interpreted” religion on earth.
Why does God have to inspire to have his word delivered? Why can't he or she or whatever just deliver?, just as he has purported to deliver entire 'creation'
Because you can't charge people money if their God just loved them enough to be forthright with them instead of torturing them with games. They have to tithe to their church to get that knowledge. Organized religion is a ponzi scheme.
The real message is ingrained inside of us. You find it if you cared deep enough. External message only provides with a general guidance. It's obligatory only for those who seek more, and want to better their understanding, Provided that the external message, is the real word of God, and not a compilation of contradicting stories!
@@maji9193 YA". God allowing the contradicting stories to full fill the earth as man lives in it. Yet hope is still here From 1 man who started this Book 1700 years ago and prolonged up to 40 . , and we still in Belief of it. How much longer for will it take for Man US to Fall Away? 20 100 1000 more years? So hard yet easy or confusion appears in agony suffering Christians who forsaken or feel been forsakened Agrifee .
At 1:14:00 he says "The reality is that most academics don't know how to talk to a normal human being." So true. For years Alan Alda has been involved in various efforts to enable people with poor communication skills to find ways to make themselves understood by people who don't share their expertise or experience. Alda wrote a very good book about it that I recommend to academics or anyone who deals with this. (Not an employee or anything, just a fan.) I don't know the rules about recommending a specific title on YT so I'll just say the book title starts with 'If I knew what you were saying..." Also, great talk Bart.
I have come to know God through Jesus Christ in a way that only His words are reliable. Even if there are 20 men like Bart Ehrman, they can't even touch me. to shake. This only through the Holy Spirit. The rest and peace that God gives is indescribable!
@ Believe me, in the darkest and deepest night there is no one who can help but ONLY the Lord Jesus. If you think you have peace, tranquility and knowledge then I want to challenge you to go to Him - only then will you know what true Peace and Tranquility is. I would like to tell you; give it a try...:
If somebody was an atheist at that times (B.C.) he or she must have had enormous power. Imagine not being blinded by some stories that fooled everybody else.
A fantastic lecture. It answered a lot of questions I had. I'm glad you touched on Jesus most likely speaking Aramaic. If Jesus and his followers all spoke Aramaic, why were all the New Testament documents written in Greek? I think the point you made in the Q&A was that the NT documents may have originally been written in Aramaic and then later copied into Greek. But why were they copied into Greek? Was it for the same reason they were copied into Syriac, Coptic, etc.(to reach a wider audience)? You focused on the massive number of differences in the NT manuscripts. I think you said the vast majority of them are small and insignificant. Flipping that, what percentage of the NT manuscripts is the same? If a large percentage is the same, isn't that evidence that the New Testament documents were copied mostly accurately?
This is Charlie Osburn. There will always be haters of the actual work of Jesus. I am a Catholic Lay Evangelist. I am a stupid man like Peter, and the Holy Spirit picked me up one day, a nobody made me a somebody, in front of everybody with our consulting with anybody and gave me an Agape Love for everybody something you don't have to give and the main reason the churches are decreasing and Jesus is increasing.
Bart Ehrman says that every book from the ancient world has the problem of being corrupted and erroneous. The only exception is the Quran. It was memorized in its entirety by dozens of the Prophet Mohammad's companions during his life time and is currently memorized in its entirety by tens of millions of Muslims around the world. 1400 years later it is in its original text to the very letter . It has not been changed to the slightest and there is only one version.
The Quran isn't an ancient book it's a medieval book it's not ancient so it's more likely to be preserved especially with the manuscripts the dates back to the time of the prophet
@@KalliKall-r7n ok let's make it fair. The Quran is 1414 years old. And it has remained preserved since then. Show me a 1400 year Bible that is %100 complete and that has not been changed since then ?
Great question at 1:08:02 that you need to hear and consider - "omission is not contradiction" - this is material to textual criticism. No two people see or describe things exactly alike. For example, consider a witness who said "I saw and heard Bob and Tom in a room having a conversation. Now consider these facts which are all true but different (1) Bob and Tom were in the room having a conversation (2) Tom was in the room (3) Bob was in the room (4) Bob was in the room having a conversation (5) Tom was in the room having a conversation (6) I saw Bob in the Room (7) I saw Tom in the room - etc - you get my point and the numerous iterations of the statement that you could make and have them all be accurate.
But its God's inspired word so there cant be mistakes God can protect his word dont it i question the preaching at my church alot of times they are contradicting trust i cant turn a blind eye
This lecture reinforces those that believe the Romans invented a man named Jesus and the fact that nowhere else do we read of this man of miracles, from anywhere or anybody else especially writers in Rome at the time.
You are one of my favorites, please continue in your great work. I love your books because they are so informative and interesting. You are a truth-seeker.
What is difference between Bart Ehemann and Christians? - Christian task is to build bridges to explain between so much contradictions. - Bart Ehrmamn reads the book, how it was made by the men
I have only been a Christian for a year, but during this time, I happened to come across the Japanese translation of your book, Misquoting Jesus, at a library. I read it with great interest and subsequently delved into the original English version. As expected, there are subtle "distortions" in the translation from English to Japanese. Nevertheless, as a Japanese reader, I found the translation both engaging and impressive. Considering this, even today, I can understand how early copyists, without access to modern conveniences like photocopiers or PDFs and instead relying on the laborious process of manual transcription, might have been tempted to alter texts based on their own interpretations-much like the scribes of the 4th-century Vatican Manuscript mentioned in your book.
We have many 1st century manuscripts!!! Constantine called them all heretic........... Constantine was a Pagan.......... with that said check out the 1st century original manuscripts Gospel of the Holy 12, The Gospel the the Nazarenes, the Gosple of the Ebionites & the Gospel of the Hebrew, confirmed in the clementine homilies and other early church followers we are the church.
Bible in a snap. Makes sense? God does not violate freewill although he did it many times, so instead of just throwing the ground troll in the fire to begin with, like he will eventually do anyway, humanity is condemned because a woman who came out of a rib was talked into eating a fruit from a walking upright, talking "serpent" who is then given lots of cool powers like temptation and roaming free all over the universe although his penalty was to crawl on his belly, but god who knows how this will turn up and loves us, even though at one point he regrets us so he drowned 99% of us, then sacrifices himself to himself to save humans from falling into the fire that he could have put the ground troll in the first place. Huh?
Yeah, makes no sense that God didn't just throw satan into the lake of fire in the first place. So he lets satan deceive the world and then gives humans the same punishment as satan even though he let satan deceive us in the first place? God's plan is the worst plan I've ever heard of
I am a couple of years late, but yes exactly. This is the entire problem of this Holy Fable. The literal interpretation is absolutely ridiculous. Yet, if an allegorical meaning is translated, then there is no human Adam & Eve and temptation to disobey god, hence it all falls apart too. Genesis completely debunks the entire bible. I was challenged to read the bible from Genesis to develop a true understanding. I didn't finish the first page till seeing absolute nonsense and breaks from reality. I started with Genesis 1 and already by Genesis 1:14 it diverts from reality and makes no sense. 1:1-5 God creates the Earth, day light and night. But not until 1:14 Day 4 does he create the sun and other stars which light the Earth. LOL Nonsense by the first page. I am more knowledgable than god.
+Tom Anderson Yep, what part do you have a problem with? By the way, you missed a bit. God orders us to stone each other to death especially women and greedy or drunk children and burn animals alive to keep him happy - and the only way he can ever forgive us for eating fruit is to make a son by raping a virgin then later using him as yet another a human sacrifice. It seems God fucking loves blood spllt in his name, it's the only thing that calms his rage and jealousy. There was this other bloke who said "leave 'em alone and let them learn stuff" ... he was cast out of heaven. God expects you to believe that this lone voice of reason somehow is the one who likes human barbeques, when in fact it was God who throws people into lakes of fire, including our hero the guy who just wanted us to have knowledge and be like them. Just proves, they had access to some excellent psychedelics 2000 years ago... ... and now, judging by the kinds of people who lap up this shit.
Fascinating video, much enjoyed. I understand this is an academic exercise and the questions asked remained in that context. One of the questions seldom asked or encountered in these types of exercises is what does all this mean to people who see credibility in these types of academic presentations and their search for God. I would be interested to know what influence this type of knowledge has in the presenter’s exercise of his faith, if any. Does it weaken it, make it stronger, more challenging, or destroy its/
Bart Ehrman’s critique of the New Testament overemphasizes discrepancies and lacks balance. Differences between Gospel accounts, such as the timing of Jesus’ death, reflect thematic storytelling common to ancient biographies (bios), not contradictions. These variations enrich the narrative and highlight differing theological emphases. His dismissal of oral tradition is flawed, as first-century Jewish culture emphasized precise memorization, ensuring the accurate transmission of Jesus’ teachings. The disciples, steeped in this tradition, would have preserved His words far more reliably than Ehrman suggests. Ehrman also overlooks plausible harmonizations of Gospel accounts. For instance, the timing of Jesus’ crucifixion in John and the Synoptics can be reconciled by recognizing differing calendar systems. Such variations reveal complementary perspectives rather than inconsistencies. Claims of theological distortion through scribal changes are overstated. Rare additions, like the Trinitarian phrase in 1 John 5:7, are isolated and do not undermine core Christian doctrines, which are supported by multiple texts. Theological stability remains intact despite textual variants. His portrayal of canon formation as arbitrary misrepresents history. The Gospels and Pauline letters were widely accepted as authoritative by the second century, long before formal canonization. This organic process underscores the early recognition of these texts’ authority. Finally, his emphasis on textual variants is misleading. Most are minor (e.g., spelling differences) and do not affect meaning. Less than 1% impact interpretation, and none alter the New Testament’s central message. Compared to other ancient works, the New Testament’s manuscript tradition is unparalleled in both quantity and reliability. In sum, Ehrman overstates discrepancies and textual instability. The robust manuscript evidence, reliable oral tradition, and early canon development affirm the New Testament’s reliability as a historical and theological foundation.
Have you not seen Matthew and Luke have word for word same accounts of the same events, but then have contradictory accounts elsewhere? John the Bapitst’s preaching is very much the same in both Matthew and Luke, but the virgin birth stories are contradictory to a comical degree
As I have examined each gospel I notice that each gospel expounds the word or the story that is lacking in other gospel but i found no contradiction at all. Just like in Mark the name mentioned are only Magdalene and mary mother of james, but in Luke the women are Magdalene, and mary mother of james together with other women, I see no contradiction there but expounded words or story same with other verses. The reason why Christian readers find no errors or contradiction is because they read it wholly and entirely thus puzzling the missing event in other gospel and that makes them understand the whole story. You know the entire history does not solely depend on the writings of one historian. Each historians wrote historical events that are not entirely identical but they're somehow connected to each other the same with the gospel of the Apostles.
Do we believe Noah put all animals--two by two, male and female as it says in Genesis 5, or does Noah put 14 of every clean animals and two of every unclean animals? Do we believe that Jesus died on Passover as Mark, Natthew and Luke tell us, or did he die a full 24 hours BEFORE the holiday as John’s gospel asserts? Did Jesus say “No sign will be given” or did he say “a sign WILL be given?"
This lecture was 10 years ago… now they can see how many differences there are in the NT with AI. I mean I’m no scholar but I can tell you, all 4 gospels contradict themselves. There’s a reason Jesus scolded the scribes. They were lying… and Jesus knew.
Note that early gospels have been misinterpreted over the centuries. For example, Jesus said "Yes, I KNOW the law says, 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth--or a SLAP FOR A SLAP'..but our Roman occupiers DON'T KNOW THAT JEWISH LAW. So if you want to live, and avoid a Roman dagger in your belly, just TURN THE OTHER CHEEK! If the soldier ask you to go with him a mile, to show him which road to take, GO TWO MILES with him. And if he's shivering in the cold, GIVE HIM YOUR CLOAK! That way you'll avoid being killed and alive to fight another day--when we Jews have out act together". Can;t you see that Jesus was a Jewish patriot, trying to "fish" for men: the "lost sheep" of Israel (Psalm 119:176 is where he took that term). He was a very good Jew, and he based ALL his philosophy of humility on Proverbs 25:6-7,21-22*(Luke 14:8-11 is almost a "word for word" quotation of Jewish scripture). The conclusion is also that Jesus read (and loved) ALL of Proverbs, Ch. 25, and all of Psalm 119 (the most Jewish Psalm in the bible). JESUS WAS A JEW--get that straight, reverend.
+Doug Zembiec Yeah, right, they didn;t have reporters or tape recorders back then--so how the hell did these idiots know what Jesus told Annas the high priest when he was interrogated INSIDE the high priest's house? It all a bunch of ancient fiction, made up by believers of the ancient "resurrection cult" that dumb-ass PAUL started....
I Hate the Party good point about the interrogation. Dont forget the uneducated disciples wrote it in eloquant greek - their 3rd language after aramaic , hebrew and then greek. That then brings us to the other problem : If moses wrote genesis - and he was born 1293 BC where the hell did he get all his info from iro abraham ,etc etc like the conversations they had and all of that other crap
I Hate the Party if you know any christians , tell them this : " the disciples were originally Jewish . they were taught the Mosaic laws in leviticus and what they ate was strictly controlled. eating human flesh and drinking human blood was strictly forbidden. please explain why it then would have been ok for the 12 disciples to drink human blood and eat human flesh even if only symbolic ie communion"
Amazing the number of people who are being blatantly dishonest about what the Bible is even after hearing the facts. This is a shame that on the subject of God and worship, people will continue to believe in and perpetrate a lie that Jesus is God or ever said he was. Christianity is not the religion of Jesus and this dishonesty among other things is why Christians are leaving their religion. Shame.
Majority of people have not read the Bible, even “Christians.” They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear.
And they miss the point of the entire scriptures which is to proclaim Jesus
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
How do you know this verse is related to Jesus?
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Jesus was not the only one in history to ever get crucified and pierced. This method of execution was popular back in their days. And Jesus was not the first one to ever get executed. Anyone who would get executed can explain the situation with this same verse. Why this verse fits Jesus only?!
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The bible and Jesus tells us so
Luke 1:70 (KJV)
As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
Luke 10:24 (KJV)
For I tell you, that many prophets and kings have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen [them]; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard [them].
Luke 16:31 (KJV)
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Luke 18:31 (KJV)
Then he took [unto him] the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
Luke 24:25 (KJV)
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luke 24:44 (KJV)
And he said unto them, These [are] the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and [in] the prophets, and [in] the psalms, concerning me.
John 1:45 (KJV)
Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
Acts 3:18 (KJV)
But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled.
Acts 3:21 (KJV)
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
Acts 3:24 (KJV)
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Acts 13:27 (KJV)
For they that dwell at Jerusalem, and their rulers, because they knew him not, nor yet the voices of the prophets which are read every sabbath day, they have fulfilled [them] in condemning [him].
Acts 26:22 (KJV)
Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come:
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 3:21 (KJV)
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ephesians 2:20 (KJV)
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
Hebrews 1:1 (KJV)
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
1 Peter 1:10 (KJV)
Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace [that should come] unto you:
That's okay as far as it goes, it's just what we do with the news and most everything else.
But the questions should be answered to your own satisifaction by honest study of what Jesus has done and why, by reading the Bible.
WRT "...They rely on others to tell them what they want to hear..."
yeah, the MAGA heads enthusiastic about donald trump, seem to be of a similar mentality. I guess a tweaked version of reality makes them feel better about how little they have accomplished in their lives or something.
Not that Trump would especially value anything they do, other than help to inflate his own ego.
I have learned more about the Bible as an atheist than I ever did as a Christian!😊 thanks Bart!!
Ha Ha! Same here. Thank god I bailed out over 50 years ago and didn't waste my life believing in the myths and fairy tales.
Jesus is In all of the scriptures
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Jesus's birth
Micah 5
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.
Matthew 2:5 (KJV)
And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
Jesus's suffering
Psalm 22
I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
Jesus arriving In Jerusalem
Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he [is] just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.
Matthew 21:5 (KJV)
21:5Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.
John 12:14-15 (KJV)
12:14And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,15Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.
Psalm 22
17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
19 But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me.
20 Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.
21 Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns
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Psalm 118:22 (KJV)
The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.
Matthew 21:42 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?
Psalm 34:20 (KJV)
He keepeth all his bones: not one of them is broken.
John 19:36 (KJV)
For these things were done, that the scripture should be fulfilled, A bone of him shall not be broken.
Judas:
Psalm 41:9 (KJV)
Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up [his] heel against me.
Psalm 55
12 For it was not an enemy that reproached me; then I could have borne it: neither was it he that hated me that did magnify himself against me; then I would have hid myself from him:
13 But it was thou, a man mine equal, my guide, and mine acquaintance.
14 We took sweet counsel together, and walked unto the house of God in company
Zec 11
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 ¶ And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD
Matthew 26:
14 ¶ Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,
15 And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.
16 And from that time he sought opportunity to betray him
Crucifixion
Psalm 22:18 (KJV)
They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
Luke 23:34 (KJV)
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
Psalm 22:16 (KJV)
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
Psalm 22:1 (KJV)
[[To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.]] My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? [why art thou so] far from helping me, [and from] the words of my roaring?
Mark 15:34 (KJV)
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Matthew 26:54 (KJV)
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56 (KJV)
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Mark 14:49 (KJV)
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Luke 24:27 (KJV)
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Luke 24:32 (KJV)
And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?
Luke 24:45 (KJV)
Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
John 5:39 (KJV)
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
John 5
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words
Acts 2
29 ¶ Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 ¶ For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 ¶ Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ
Acts 18:28 (KJV)
For he mightily convinced the Jews, [and that] publickly, shewing by the scriptures that Jesus was Christ.
Acts 28:23 (KJV)
And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into [his] lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and [out of] the prophets, from morning till evening.
Romans 1:2 (KJV)
(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Romans 16:26 (KJV)
But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
1 Corinthians 15:3 (KJV)
For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1 Corinthians 15:4 (KJV)
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Matthew 2:23 (KJV)
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 5:17 (KJV)
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 11:13 (KJV)
For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
Correction, you can thank youself for that, not god :D @@helengraham7472
@@helengraham7472a
@@helengraham7472
The great white throne is not here yet. You take salvation so lightly. Jesus did not.
Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6.
Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online.
'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme
love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted.
Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15.
Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, pride hates it!
When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners.
Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5.
Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15.
When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.
PS. Other apostles were baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
The following is brilliant.
When Erhman asked his students how many of them believed the Bible is the inspired word of God, the entire class put up their hands. When Erhman asked them how many of them had read the Bible from cover to cover, only a few hands went up. Ehrman commented, “You’d think that if people believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, they would want to know what God had to say.”
It's a very important point. I wonder how many people know the whole Bible completely by heart. I bet the answer is none. If you ask this question about the Qur'an, you'll find many know it completely by heart. In it God says: 'And We have certainly made the Qur'an easy for remembrance, so is there any who will remember?' 54:17
Reading all the books that make up the bible is one sure fired way to end up being an atheist... probably the main reason that the church outlawed anyone having a bible other than ordained priests.
I think any intelligent person who reads any part of the Bible quickly understands the book was not directed by a spiritually evolved creative source.
@@_truthful_q_ which version?
It just confirms that no thought or reflection goes into fundamentalist dogma. I'm a Taoist, but that realization only came to me after having read as much Taoist writing as I could find, many times, and after much reflection and meditation (AKA prayer). It took years. The students referred to here evidently signed on with fundamental Christianity because someone above them in the social hierarchy imparted to them the understanding that it was a good idea. It's unfortunate. What results is a social support network built around aggressive political activism, without understanding, and without any path to Grace. I believe that accounts for the fact that fundamentalists appear to "believe" so many things that contradict the teachings of Jesus (who, BTW, was an ideal Taoist in fact, if not in name).
Unsurprisingly, no Christian in this comment section is actually interesting in addressing anything Erhman is saying. Instead, they just call him wrong. That is not helping me figure out whether he is wrong.
I have just done half of this talk by Ehrman. he's rotten!
maybe not, but it does tell you a lot about the implicit integrity of the christo-facists in the countries where bart's ideas get media exposure.
Bingo
Nonsense
Once you take trinitarianism out of the teaching, everything falls into place as it should .
always search for the truth no matter where that takes you
+David Burns Sounds trite, but it's one of the most important lessons mom and dad taught me, so many decades ago.
+Ibrahim kd Did you read Sura 19 verse 33? Here you see clearly, that the Quran is lying, because Muslims claim, that Jesus never died and also said, that Jesus did never sin, so He did not lie.
So Islam denies the everlasting life?
Well, we as Christians know, that not everyone has to die and that there is an everlasting life and the resurrection.
Tell me the reason, why Jesus would have to die, when HE never sinned?
What sense would life make in the end, when there is no everlasting life?
What would Jesus be judged for? According to the Quran, Jesus was never touched by the devil, so HE never sinned. What right would God have to judge him and what for. That doesn't make sense to me at all.
I’ve challenged a few people on this now and they had absolutely no idea there were any discrepancies at all. They didn’t even believe me when I told them.
Well they aren't exactly going to advertise to their cult members about it are they 😂
Are you referring to the different accounts in the bible? What do you find that is so stupid? Any examples?
@NotTheMaestro They didn't believe you? Why should that bother you if what you want is to make them not believe something? Oh, I get it-they should not believe only what YOU want don't want them to believe, LOL! That's called "manipulation".
@@priyanka5316 are you ok bro? Not wanting to believe n actual fact because it will destroy your world view is called being brainwashed
That's because they are indoctrinated. Its hard to reach people like that because they more than likely were taught that as kids and grew up around people they were close to who had the same views.
Stone didn't even need to be rolled away if Jesus could walk through walls
He rolled the stone not for himself, but for those with little faith.
By the standards set he could have just appeared to everyone on the planet, and convinced everyone very easily
Schrodingers cat
It would need to be rolled away to let the women in.
it's presentation though innit
Dont believe
“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Buddha quotes (Hindu Prince Gautama Siddharta, the founder of Buddhism, 563-483 B.C.)
Pali canon?
do not believe comments in you tube then, eh?
@@theHentySkepticYuuuuup. That's the point, eh? UA-cam, Online, Schoolbook, Religious Book, Pastor, intellectual..... use your intellect, reason, logic discernment and your own experience with the words of advice... with any and everything you hear, read- no matter the source. Obviously UA-cam would be included. "But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”
Good advice, then don't believe that Buddha guy.
All mans wisdom is foolishness.
Genealogy of JOSEPH! Why not the genealogy of Mary? - I thought Joseph had nothing to do with it!
Because Joseph would have been the king if the Israelites had been a free people since the days of David. His son, whether natural or adopted would the also have become the rightful king.
@@sophiamcl and somehow decedent of Adam.
Genealogy comes from the father not the mother. If a jewish woman merried a none jew man the child will be a jew with out a tribe. Adoption does not apply. Since Joseph is not the father of j.c., he does not belong to no tribe of juda where the messiah is to come from the line of king David and his son king Salomon. Unless, the Holy Spirite is from the tribe of juda? And it it's o.k. for Mary to commit adultery breaking one commandment with a spirit....
That by the way the guardians that laid with the daughters of man before the flood are in prison awaiting judgment for there transgression.
@ichangedmyname right,but they split off at Nathan, Solomons younger brother; Mary was sired through Nathan, Joseph through Solomon.
@@sophiamcl -- actually no, Joseph was not in line to be king at all. Matthew says Jacob was the father of Joseph, while Luke tells us Heli was the father of Joseph. The bloodlines are complete fiction, what makes you think any of it is true?
"I can't believe a god inspired the bible if he didn't even preserve it."
He did :)
JAMFamily How? And which version of the Bible? The Coptic bible? The King James Bible? The NIV? The ARV?
If he did then he’s shitty at it and can’t be maximally great.
@@jamfamily4287 he didn't do sh*t
@@jamfamily4287 Bro, give up the master's god. Think for yourself.
@@jamfamily4287
No
Jesus had amazing stamina to say what he said on the cross. Also an amazing stenographer had to be there and hear it all.
Ronald Boyd
Good one....hahahahaha 😂😂😂😂
It takes even more “stamina” come to life after you’ve been killed. You stand 2000 years later in a culture that is so alien to that of the Roman empire and act as if people didn’t know how to use their ears and transcribe the words and actions of events surrounding them. We have exhaustive records of various battles that took place all over the Roman empire and you don’t think someone could have potentially written down what they were observing in a public crucifixion? We think we are the pinnacle of intellect sitting in the 21st-century, yet our ancestors created miraculous and complex systems and structures that still amaze us today. Maybe gain a tiny bit of perspective before saying no one could have done something when you probably have done little to no research on the subject and don’t seem to have an appreciation for the capabilities of the ancient people of our planet.
@@scotthannan8669 Sure, someone could have, assuming they were part of the small number of people who could write. But if they did, we haven't found any trace of those writings, not even rumors. So ... maybe get a bit of perspective yourself?
With collapsing lungs I don't think he could say much.
No. The roman soldiers were all wearing body cams.
"If God inspired a book, you'd think you'd want to read it". My thoughts exactly.
Or maybe, given that it was inspired by the Almighty God, creator of the universe, it is not quite as easy to read as Dan Brown. Seems reasonable to me.
@@sphagbog
Why would god make it so difficult to read, so confusing ... surely the whole point of a book is to educate , to clarify , not to confuse people
i understand that but listen to this, your flesh does not want to hear anything about God! that’s why you’re uninterested. this is what romans 3:11-18 says:
“there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”
“Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”
“Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”
“Their feet are swift to shed blood;
ruin and misery mark their ways,
and the way of peace they do not know.”
“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”
so no one in their flesh understands God, no one in their flesh even seeks God, their is no fear of God in their eyes, they all tuned away and became worthless. this is true! but look at what james 4:6-10 says:
“But he gives us more grace. That is why Scripture says: “God opposes the proud
but shows favor to the humble.”
Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.”
so we need to be humble, we need to realize we might be wrong. we need to realize that God might be real and that we sinned against that Holy and Perfect God. deuteronomy 4:29 says this:
“But if from there you seek the Lord your God, you will find him if you seek him with all your heart and with all your soul.”
well maybe you just don’t want to truly find God, and i think i understand that. but listen to this, it’s the best thing that will ever happen in your life. it might be scary, you might have to give up your pride or even your life. but Jesus said in luke 9:24: “for whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever loses their life for Me will save it.” you might not even understand how that could make any sense. but if you just take that leap in the light and truth you will be set free from whatever you have right now and be given something that your mind right now can’t understand. the grace of God and His love for you. john 3:16-21 says:
“for God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.”
and romans 10:9-13 says
“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile-the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
now idk if you ever read the bible much, but i suggest that you read at least 1 of the 4 gospels matthew, mark, luke, or john. and see what’s true, humble yourself and seek God. taste and see that the Lord is good. faith comes by hearing the word of God, God loves you so much and has thoughts of peace and not of evil for you! God wants to give you a new life, and for you to walk the streets of gold in His kingdom forever.
@@Chris-hx9fw "Your flesh does not want to hear anything..."
Why do Christians have to talk like weirdos?
@@sphagbog Why would an all powerful being have to rely on a fallible, inefficient, equivocal human technology of storage like books?
I really respect this man. He doesn’t force his beliefs or criticize. He just give the information and leave it up to the listener. I as s believer love listening to him
@Nasir Aameen Wait, as a “believer” you love listening to a guy who is a non believer, that denies and blasphemes the Lord Jesus Christ name and slanders the truth about the deity of Christ?🤦🏾♂️ you are definitely a Luke Warm Christian.
Revelation 3:15-17 (KJV)
“”15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:””
A true Believer should never “love” listening to someone blaspheme Gods name.
@Jon Doe , you are just jealous that he knows more about the bible than you ever will.
well he's a scholar and doesn't believe what he has studied. Seems he can't come to grips with natural laws that God created. Yin/yang, good/bad, happiness/sadness. He thinks God can only exist if the world were ice cream cones and puppy tails.
To be a believer, you must be born again, new creature, called Regeneration.
Webster 1828 Dictionary formerly named, Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary
Regeneration: Reproduction, the act of making new. In Theology; new birth by the grace of God.; that change by which the natural enmity of man toward God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme love to God and his law, or holy affections, are IMPLANTED in the heart.
He saved us by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit. Titus 3.
@@AtreyuKhalilevery quote you use is incorrect and has no relation to any original text. You can't blaspheme something that wasn't correct to begin with.
This man blew my world! I don't know if that's good or bad. God gave us a mind. Yet the majority of pastors act offended when you question them. Bart cause's me to think and ask the hard questions. He is truly a brilliant man.
Ralph Waldo Emerson might be of interest.
No two different persons can be exactly the same because the creator made them beautifully, wonderfully
and fearfully the same ; every person is unique.
Jesus is the only perfect man to follow.
@@MCsquar3Fearfully? What was that for?
@@MCsquar3but he wasn't perfect. Dude lost his temper all the time and made a bunch of false prophecies.
@@MCsquar3what Jesus are you talking about? The entire lecture is pointing out that these are all made up fanfiction stories.
if the women ran in fear from the cave and didn't tell anyone how did it get in the book, ?
That's what I was thinking😅
It was added in later. 😂🤣
Women can't keep a secret.
Craig G what a contribution. At least explain yourself
@J H Yes there are hundreds of discrepancies
Greetings from Brazil! The day after I returned from my summer vacation at the beach, seven years ago, I decided to study Catholic Theology,
Koine Greek and the Coptic language. Under the umbrella and in the apartment I had read in those 15 days "Misquoting Jesus" and Elaine Pagels' "The Gnostic Gospels" (both in Portuguese). Twice each. The experience has been addictive. Thank you, Dr. Bart.
Why stop there. Why not read the word of God?
The incomparable worf of God.
Not all bibles are inspired! So I speak only of the one that is:
In Psalm 12:6-7 God said He preserved His word. The others do not.
The Authorized Version, later called the King James Bible, shows God truly wants to know you as His! The Bible was written by over 40 writers of various backgrounds over a span of about 1500 years, written in the continents of Asia, Africa and Europe in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, [the Masoretic text].
The New Testament [Antioch,Textus Receptus] was written in Greek. They fit perfectly together to unfold the drama of redemption!!!
There are approximently 24,000 ancient copies of portions of the new testament. These are supported by writings of the church theologians in the first four centuries. There is also external evidence: Tacitus, a Roman historian, and Josephus, a Jewish historian. Both support bible accounts.
This book is not about stories, which are now viewed as fictional, but are true life events.
THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PERFECTLY FULFILLED PROPHECIES. Fulfilled by Jesus.
HISTORICAL ACCURACY. Many, many about Israel. Some being fulfilled even in our time. Also, Prophecy of Cyrus and prophecy of the city of Tyrus.
Also: 101 SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE.
God wrote about science thousands of years before man did. He tells us ahead of time so that we will know that He is God.
I would suggest that you read some books that counter professor Bart's thesis to see if his claims hold up under rigorous scholarly scrutiny. That's what is missing in this video. No one to give a counter argument.
@@tonysienzant6717 this is taught in every NT studies class on earth. Even the evangelical ones know this stuff… they just excuse it… you preacher ( if they went to theological school ) knows this too… they just don’t tell you about it. 😉
@@judyswiderski2682 I read the Bible frequently, as well as the footnote references and Catholic and Protestant commentaries. Analytics too.
@@cesarcaldas8272
Which bible?
So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn.
Quran 2 : 79
The koran is also okay with slavery, religious persecution, and child marriage.
@@pineapplepen540 thanks for providing proof of your claims
@@abhmd4481 Mohammed was a slaver and pedophile who persecuted religious minorities. These are basic facts about the man. Do you mean exact verses?
Lies
@Testament Faith
Which Gospel are you talking about.🤔
How can one '' misquote '' jesus when he left not a written word and everything '' jesus said '' comes from people who never knew him ?
They have ears to listen.
But Bart says the writers of the various text in the Bible did know Jesus, or people who knew him.
Here I am. ARIAN.
The Elect One from EZRA.
Hidden in plain sight the truth was to all of you yet none of you are without excuse to the sin you’ve done against my Father. The unforgivable sin. The Revelation of Daniel I as eye witness fulfilled. Yet as a thief in the night. I hide like my Father commanded. The Final Hour has come. From declaration of the God of Jacob. Selah.
@@mastergamer591 Your pardon? What makes you, specifically, an Elect?
Although there's some doubt as to his authorship, Peter knew Jesus...I guess. I mean who knows if these people even existed?
Actually, now that I think about it, the notable historian, Josephus, recorded Jesus' crucifixion and, I believe, he may have mentioned the altercation at the temple. That's really the most reliable evidence that we have, at all, of Jesus' existence. The Gospels, themselves, are problematic at best. Nevertheless, people have managed to pull a narrative together that satisfies them.
I wish it was that easy for me "to believe". I feel a deep need for God in my life. And, being raised Catholic, I feel a strong inclination to believe that The Son of God is real. I'm as doubtful as anyone though...and my primary passion is for The Truth. I can't force myself to adopt such a serious a conviction just because "Grandma & Grandpa believed it".
I'm paraphrasing the author of, "The Historical Figure of Jesus" (whose name escapes me), who says that "while Jesus is enormously popular today...He wasn't a particularly important person during His own lifetime."
Be well.
As a Christian, I’m not afraid to listen to Ehrman. My thoughts on Biblical inspiration are greatly challenged by him.
Good. Always test your beliefs to strengthen their foundation or free yourself from those that are faulty.
so if they are so frequently self contradictory, why would you regard them as "inspired" in the first place.
The bare fact that the "originals" of the NT texts apparently no longer exist, would be the strongest evidence that the proto-nicene church CHANGED WHAT THEY SAID even if originally they were "closer to correct" by some unseen standard.
@@Chomper750
or test your beliefs when they seem very out of sync with observable reality.
since "faulty" is in the eyes only of him/her who dares to QUESTION the vast claims of miraculous integrity.
@@tracyavent-costanza346I love Jesus, i love his teachings. Religious texts are written as a narrative. Sometimes Christ says "only the evil generation will ask for signs" and sometimes cast out Demons from pigs testify to him "Son of God, you have come early to punish us.?"
I believe one to be true and reject the other because it sounds stupid.
There are literally no writings about Jesus until 40 years after his supposed death....does anybody remember anything anybody said accurately after 40 years?...an entire generation
Actually, Messianic creeds about the life, miracles, death and resurrection of JESUS were circulating 2-3 years after JESUS ascended into Heaven. The Book of Galatians was written in 47 or 48 AD.
The Koran wasn't written for almost 200 years after the death of Mohammed.
@@J0HN_3_16 exactly 47 or 48 AD.... so me saying 40 was generous
@@proverbalizer no, you were misleading. JESUS was crucified around 33 AD. So the first New Testament book was written 14-15 years later. As I previously mentioned, writings about JESUS were widely circulated within 2 or 3 years of HIS ascension.
The evidence for JESUS is overwhelming if you are willing to examine it
i don't even remember stuff I did or said last week. nor is there any indication that the "apostles" took written notes either.
@@J0HN_3_16Hadiths(life of prophet and what he said/did) were put together after 200 years yes, but 1) this statement is an oversimplification 2) Hadith is what people have said about the Prophet, which is the reason why Muslims don't take Hadiths as Quran- which Muslims claim is the book from god, that was written and complied while the prophet was alive.
I'd suggest be more careful and do ur research before you say anything so confidently, that's our responsibility as human beings, thank you:)
An intentional error might be called a "professional foul".
Professional foul indeed!
Marie Estile ooo
Jayarava Attwood the christian authors added stuff until 325ce when they had a vote!
What someone tells you about the bible, tells you more about them than the bible.
If he has this much interest in disclaiming Jesus What do you think he would find if he asked the Lord to come to him .He will find that the power that hit my being will hit his.Now he has to ask "what is this Spirit?It is The Holy Spirit and it saves.To people who don t believe the Gospel is foolishness.But to those being saved it s the power of God to Salvation.
@frankos rooni how do you know that for sure?
Who pays him you know that?
Jesus is God and he is a.living God.
1 Corinthians 2:14
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
King James Version (KJV)
That works both ways.. like a double edged sword, though one side seems duller than the other..and usually from eithers side.
The difference betwix the 2 that I have gleened in my half century of existence is this:The one who reads and understands the basic tenets of the Bible know they are bad people trying to be good; what righteousness they know and do, they learn from God.
those who don't read it, think they are good though do much bad without even knowing it, which is only natural, being self-righteous.
@@giacomojack1
No, "it" kills, wars, rapes, enslaves...
I think I listened to this before but it was fascinating and you make it very understandable. Thank u and whoever put it on UA-cam.
I'm Brazilian I still learning English, so one day I come back here.
Hagalo estimado, vale la pena.
Não tenho certeza se é o mesmo livro em que a palestra é baseada (Misquoting Jesus), mas você pode ler o livro dele "O que Jesus disse? O que Jesus não disse?" que basicamente cobre os mesmos temas e mais detalhadamente
your English language skills are fine...
That's incredible you're learning English. Have fun and we'll see you back here one day soon.
@@espelhogamer eu terminei hoje o livro como Jesus se tornou Deus e vou começar esse hoje mesmo, abriu minha mente
How can Jesus be quoted when the gospels were written 75 years after he died?
Paul wrote his musings within 10 to 20 years of crucifixion and much of Mark may have been heavily influenced by his "inspiration ". Nevertheless how can one know what actually went down when there have been so many copies of copies and insertions not to mention all the actions considered miracles. Then there is condoning slavery in the good book.
Just too difficult to reconcile the damnation of non knowers and non believers. Keep it easy to understand: treat others the way you want to be treated.
Not sure how that works for those who do not have the basics of food shelter water and safety.
With all of my doubts I still beg for wisdom, grace, and understanding.
Misquoting a myth is only a problem for those who think the myth is history.
But think of the MONEY you can make out of MYTHS!
Now fuck off & clean your room!
Even simple mistakes in punctuation can change the meaning of a phrase or sentence completely! This is true even in modern languages which are usually less precise than ancient languages. Some concepts and words have no direct translation at all in other languages and must be paraphrased. Different scribes would have done this differently and could change the meaning completely.
This was the best explanation of textual criticism works since my school years as a classical philologist!
I'm in awe of this man's ability to reference facts, verses, other people's work AND the vast amount of historical data needed to speak with authority. I have trouble remembering who I met last week!
I mean, if it was your passion and livelihood to remember the names of the people you met last week, and you set aside time to prepare to give a presentation on the names of people you've met, I bet you'd fare much better. And I bet you have some kind of passion that you know a lot about, without having to look things up!
To be fair, he does this for a living. That's an important thing to keep in mind. If I practiced anything for 10,000 hours, I would be expert too.
I guess that he likes this stuff and finds it fascinating, when you enjoy what you're doing it's not a difficulty.
@ maybe we aren't the dominant species...Global Warming seems to lean toward bacteria surviving long after we're gone.
@@abbreviatedalex2418 repetition is the key memory
"Theologians show no interest in textual criticisms at all. No knowledge, no interest it." In other words, the people who claim to understand the word of the gods don't understand how those words got there in the first place.
Patently false. There are theologians and researchers out there that Erhman refuses to debate.
My question is about the witnesses, like in the birth of Jesus, the baptism of Jesus, the temptation of Jesus, and the trial of Jesus. In all of these occasions, which appear in all four gospels though different, my question is how do the authors, qualify the statements of the four when the four weren't there to witness any of these events. Nobody would have went into Pilate's place where Jesus' trials were taking place, as with the other things mentioned. Sorry, bad punctuation, I'm no scholar.
You might like the book, "The Trial of Jesus of Nazareth" by S. G. F. Brandon. It sheds light on the part of your comment that refers to Pilate.
Luk 1:1-4
(1) Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us,
(2) Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;
(3) It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus,
(4) That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.
You can't see the answer to your question in his beginning of the speech?? God inspired His Word. It's either true, or not.
AmandaBrecc the gospel of John’s author (John), declares, “35 And he that saw it bare record, and his record is true: and he knoweth that he saith true, that ye might believe.” John 19:35
Super important!
The author of Revelation makes a similar declaration so I believe those two books and build my foundation of doctrine from those two books.
Those are the only two books I consider scripture in the NT
Bart Ehrman's "Misquoting Jesus" began my long journey into deconstruction. Thank God!
Did you lose your faith while deconstructing it?
@@TheHonestPeanut , no. Deconstruction peeled away all the false teaching I had been raised to believe. I fell in love all over again with God.
@@cheryellemley-mcroy6758 interesting. Thanks for the reply 👍
@@cheryellemley-mcroy6758how do you know your deconstruction was authentic
That's stupid
I've been saying this for years!! This guy is my tribe.
Other members are Chairman Mao who murdered 80 to 100 million people and Stalin who murdered 20 million people
And why not. Jesus gives value to people by His sacrificial act of love. The incarnate God offered His flesh, His sinless flesh, as a payment for our sins.
This is while we were yet sinners. His enemies. "The heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it?. Yrs, it hss a natural enmity toward God and a strong love for self
It wants to rule!
Jesus said, You must be born again. John 3:3-8. "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
That which is born of flesh is flesh, and that which is born of Spirit is spirit." Verses 3:5-6.
Born again is regeneration. Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online.
'Regeneration means; Reproduction, the act of producing anew. In theology, New birth by the grace of God, that change by which the will and natural enmity of man to God and his law are subdued, and a principle of supreme
love to God and his law, or holy affections, are implanted in the heart.' Implanted.
Humbling isn't it. We cannot do that. So who does God look to? the humble and contrite ones. Psalm 34:18 and Isaiah 57:15.
Ask God to send the Holy Spirit to you, Luke 11:13. He will bring your sins to mind. As he does ask Jesus to forgive you. This will be painful, PRIDE HATES IT.
When you see your desperate need (Jeremish 17:9) for a Saviour, call out to Jesus to save you. He came to save sinners.
Then do as the risen Jesus commanded, be baptized. Matthew 28:18-20, in the water of repentance Mark 1:1-5, Matthew 3:6. Calling on the name of the Lord, Romans 10:9-13. How? As Peter preached Acts 2:21, 38 and as Paul did, Acts 22:16, Acts 19:1-5.
Think on Mark 16:16, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 6:3-11, 1 Corinthians 12:13 and Colossians 2:6-15.
When He has regenerated you, you will desire Him. Read His inspired word, the Authorized Version, the King James Bible. The Spirit of truth will lead you into all truth. His word strengthens, washes (as does His powerful blood). His word reads you Hebrews 4:12. Daily bible reading and prayer is essential in building on the foundation which is Christ Jesus.
PS. The other apostles were already baptized, they baptized others. John 4:1-2.
Read His preserved word, the Authorized Version later called the King James Bible.
nobody who wrote the New Testament was there when the man was alive .... get it?
FOOL
I don't, sorry. Can you explain please?
Wrong
Technically Paul was but he never met Jesus so same point. It's all hearsay
I’m a Muslim. But I really like Bart. It seems he makes logical comments about certain things about which I would like to know.
Watch Cold Case Christianity William Warner Wallace. Alsi David Wood if you are looking for truth, or you can continue listening to what you want to believe but this guy does not have a sound basis for the bible at all, sadly for him
Can you prove allah is the one true living God?
Who forgive sins in Islam?
He really does mislead his popular audiences though - people who don’t have much context to know how his points are pretty empty. Lots of scholars have pointed this out.
@@amandadewet4022 really trinity is false doctrine
@@amandadewet4022 I think this guy saying the true he studied well the bible well then any Christian David wood just talking about Islam not Christianity they bring everything out off context and explain it by their own way
Bart is genuinely funny, I love it when he has an audience like this who can appreciate his humour.
He got the audience to laugh because there are thousands of variations, as if that meant the Gospels were completely unreliable, then told them actually most of them didn't matter becaus they didn't alter the meaning. So it turned out it wasn't funny after all.
@@Alpine1996 ohh, that was VERY funny
His yuk yuk laugh sounds juvenile to me.
God has the last laugh. I know you have contempt for God's word, that is a normal attitude of the natural heart. Jeremiah 17:9. "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it,?"
When God stops inviting you to walk with Him, then the door of mercy is closed.
"But thou, O LORD, shall laugh at them, thou shall have all the beathen in derision." Psalm 59:8.
He is a compassionate God. Simply ask Him if He is true. If you wan tg Him to reveal Himself to you, He will.
@@judyswiderski2682 The bible is not a self proving document anymore than anyother religous text. So.....
Prove the supernatural events claimed in the pages are real using facts and evidence but b/s.
Be the very first Christian to do that
You are so enlightening. Finding the history of the Bible and how it came about I think it’s so important. I wish current day so-called christians would study why they believe instead of worrying about the new dress they are going to wear to church on Sunday. It seems they care more about what they do one day a week than why they do it. I find the history of the Bible fascinating and I’m learning a lot thanks to Bart.
Thanks Bart. In case you don’t know it you and your hard work are very much appreciated. I only wish more people would hear your lectures.
and that's just the men worrying about their dresses!
Dr. Ehrman makes the boring religious stuff fun to learn. thank you.
but not accurate
@@joandark2cope and seethe
@@joandark2
Maybe, but you have to be able to prove it in a book or at least in a scientific article!
@@mogbaba He did! It's called the Gospel
It's written by witnesses, and the letters of Paul and Old Testament Scholar, and the other Apostles.
Christians read: Just their favorite verses Bart Ehrman reads: The whole thing.
Thank you for explaining in simple English
I read it couple of times o.t/n.t. (yes also genealogy) but yes, i also have experienced christians focusing at what they like, making those favourites their religion..
Why am I even commenting
Don't you love it when they quote verses to prove the Trinity lol?
The thing about “the bible” is it was never intended to be a single book and there are so many books that have been taken out of it. Not to mention all the translation errors both accidental and intentional. It’s a wonder how anyone takes any of them to be 100% the word of any god.
And GOD reads thoughts.
Even pastors don’t quote the bible the way Bart quotes verses of the bible. Crazyy
Mistranslated words can have big impact. Young maiden was translated to virgin. Big impact. Reed sea was translated to red sea, another major mistake. To them it was small mistake, since those texts were written for that populace of that time and place
The Q&A portion of this video is outstanding. I don't think Dr. Ehrman is among the best scholarly presenters I've listened to, but he certainly handled the diverse set of questions extraordinarily well. His responses in the Q&A really demonstrated the depth of his knowledge in the subject area.
Ironically, I found myself watching this video after the president of a baptist theological seminary and a Presbyterian minister both affirmed what Bart said. That we have no original autographs of the scriptures and the bible I have is not inerrant. Why would they tell me this? You ask. They were both making arguments against exclusive psalmolody in worship. If we have no inspired textx then we cannot sing inspired songs.
The real question is, would the Bible be actually less questionable or more questionable if all the texts had all the facts exactly the same, given what we know about eyewitness accounts, memory, pov, etc?
God can create all things which is quite an accomplishment but is'nt capable of seeing that his word comes down to us accurately ?? Sorry, don't buy it.........
Right that’s putting Limits on God his word will stay the same and live forever always
No one would attempt to sell this to a an unquestioning mind.
Its only a life line to heavens for the willing and not the subject of a mocking contest , just in case someone is looking for the truth and bothers to understand its intended message which is simple and easy for everyone to understand .
@Marc Carran
It is preserved by memory and by the text. Which is super important
@@Gp39454 It has not stayed the same. Deal with it.
And He seemingly wanted to be clearer on not mixing fabrics than on exceptions from when you can buy people?
This should be mandatory viewing in schools.
Absolutely!!!
@@cjtjets5941 but not all the kids will be christians. i don;t believe in christianity but i think it might be a bit contrevorsial to force our opinion on others. everyone canhave an opinion. though this one is clearly teh right opinion
Along with Christopher Hitchens
@@ahmednabeel1114 wrote: " i don;t believe in christianity but i think it might be a bit contrevorsial to force our opinion on others."
What on earth makes you think that being TAUGHT about a different way of viewing an ancient supposedly holy book is equivalent to having an "opinion" FORCED onto students????? While we're on the subject, it's scholarly work, so MORE than a mere 'opinion'!
@@ahmednabeel1114 how is it „forcing an opinion on kids“ by just showing a video though?
After 50 minutes of lecture, a dense but clear expose, still some 40 minutes of Q&A ... by default going in various directions, but still an effort.
Quality!
(Quran 4v46) Among the Jews are those who distort words from their [proper] places and say, "We hear and disobey" and "Hear but be not heard" and "Rāʿinā," twisting their tongues and defaming the religion. And if they had said [instead], "We hear and obey" and "Wait for us [to understand]," it would have been better for them and more suitable. But Allāh has cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, except for a few.
The best way to convert someone from christianity is to have him to read the bible.
Mosytof what i called the bible is the jewbook or Torah that gas *Absolutely_Nothing* yo do with the way of christ which is now extinct which is why there *aew_no so-called 'christians whatsoever.
Quite why the money bags decided ed to tack the jusussey onypo the jewbook is a complete mystery, because the two are wholly unrelated. M y gues is that the money bags t thoughtthe jesussey to brief given that it cn be read in an after noon, and since they woere flogginh r tying to make money out of the way of christ(now completely extinct)they supposed buys wou;ld ant a bit more for their money and the en thought thought thwy would jazzit al up eith a bit of magic so thereinsrrtyed the resurection lie into it which was stupod becsuse it is impossible and *Uterly _Irelevant to i or anything to do with the way of christ, my gus is they though a bit of magic would impres the peasants or Elsies, wh love a bit of magic,but the money bsgs clerly over looked two things: posibiility and relevance and their rsurrection lie fals at boith fences, becuse even the elsies or Lwer Clases know that the dead and buried*stay* ded and biuried,and of course anything supposed too have taken place *After* the death of a teacher could not possibly be relevsnt to what he taught *Before he was for himself dstroyed for ever, but the money bags clearly thought a bit of magic would jazz up a othereise rather dreary bundle of anecdotes was a silly lie because it is impossible and wholly implausible particularly in hot countries where decomposition which begins as soon as the heart stops beating proceeds rather rapidly and the only way any one would detect the poor jesus chap would have been by smell., which no amount of frankincense or myrrh would hide. The soft tissues go first then the belly explodes from the build up of gasses and that is*very* messy and stinky *indeed*.
When you see this kind of lecture by great christian scholar proving that there was 1, 2, 3 or rather more cases of story development and addition of what wasn't there before.... you know what! this is what God tells us 1400 yrs ago... woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, "this is from God'',
Demha Gurhan what timeline are you on?
Brilliant man that speaks so all can understand
Very informative. Now I feel much more knowledgable and confident in my misquoting of Jesus.
Bert Ehrman is LEGENDARY!!
@Zakar Naiky cry harder 😂
Bert Ehrmam believes that the gospels teach that Jesus is God and that Jesus was crucified..
What do Muslims cherry-pick information more from? Ehrman or the Bible?
Just caught this what, 10 years too late? Fascinating talk. Great Q&A as well. You're making me curious about history, in general, and that's a win for you. I'll look for your lecture circuit next, if you have one.
10 years too late huh?
Mark’s gospel says “Father why have you forsaken me” is Jesus quoting Psalm 22, it’s not like he could just say “this is fulfilling Psalm 22”, he had to quote it then those around him could fill in the blanks
But here’s the shit you lot never ask. Why only “My god, my god, why have you forsaken me”? Why make that passage specifically his last words in Mark and Matthew?
I admire the patience of this guy dealing with these pedantic questioners.
Allan Hegyes
Bart the pedantic one here....all his knowledge is but child’s play !!! The questioners asked clever questions that Bart couldn’t answer !!!
Yes, because your religion is above reproach and no one can question the immutable and infallible word of your Lord. Yes, how petty of these questioners to even imply the most minor of inconsistencies in your perfect scriptures.
Yes, mark lewis, The Church is Indefectible and created all you know and take for granted. you can't make your shame over sin go away.
ehrman deals with pedantic elements as a routine facet of his public image
I always find Bart Ehrman's lectures so refreshing and interesting. He is truly quite brilliant.
@dom com. how immature - are you like 8 years old? grow up
@dom com. He neither claims to be, nor is he perceived as, a "prophet" in any way, so maybe you should beware of wrong assumptions before spouting them.
He is very brilliant in confusing the people
@@thepalehorse7015 He's confusing to those who are already confused.
@@thepalehorse7015 He's confusing to the ignorant only
Am I the only person who thinks that more than one person would copy the original book of Mark from him rather than make copies of the copies?
Therefore there would be more than 1 accurate copies of the original which Mark would have been alive to correct error for a while too?
Let’s say the first copy is copy A. Bart is saying a copy B would be of copy A. Why can’t copy B be of the original too. Why jump to say copy B is of copy A?
*_AMEN! Alas, I encountered a reasonable comment!_*
Even if you are right - this doesn't change the situation. Lets assume that the first copy of Mark is A1. Then the next copy is FROM MARK'S ORIGINAL A2, and so on. Then we have a number of first hand copies from Mark, A1, A2, A3, A4... which let's assume for the sake of argument are identical (though it's extremely unlikely). These copies will be distributed among the faithful, far afield, and themselves become copied. So even if the 'first generation' of copies are exact copies of Mark, subsequent copies (B1, C1, D1..) will drift as described. At some point someone is copying a copy - not Marks' text!
Irrelevant. We have no confirmed originals to compare to. Regardless of how many originals were scribed.
It is presumptively accepted that many copies would have been made from the “original”written text.
There is no presumption that mark would have proofed every (or any) of those copies.
As the original texts have not been discovered and overwhelmingly likely to no longer exist, there is no verifiable way to establish that any texts are an accurate copy of the original.
There is only accepted/credible means of deducing if a text is more probable to contain fewer inaccuracies and deviations from the original.
Never underestimate the potential for human error to change the course of Mankind as it is, was, & will be.
Where did he go during the unaccounted 18 years? The big brother house?
He was backpacking through Europe
The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps. Proverbs 14:15
If you a Christian then you have nothing to prove
@SuperDukka On your sins list you forgot the big one original sin that has been passed down.
@SuperDukka
You have some really bad misunderstandings.
I would advise you to think objectively about all those points.. If you can refute them yourself, they aren't valid points..
Keep in mind that a carnal person is always going to have difficulty understanding words inspired by Spirit-filled men.
@SuperDukka
If you want me to refute any 3 points, pick your top 3 and I will explain them.. Not going to post refutations of 12 points while I'm on mobile.
Daniel, your Bible got rekt like the trash it is, why even bother trying to defend it?
This is where the Qur'an comes in.
Preserved in its original text
so I guess there is only one legitimate version of arabic, and everyone who reads arabic script will interpret it the same way.
so that explains why there are about a million Imams who teach their own versions of islam.
@@tracyavent-costanza346that's not true I agree that there are Alot of tafsirs(interpretations) for the Quran but imams just lead the prayers and teach kids the orthodoxy stuff and the basic stuff they actually encourage us to memorize and read the Quran with understanding it ourselves
They don't take you down from crosses when crucified.....
This guy is very bright and thorough
Check him out. he isnt very accurate,
Very informative. Have only been studying the translation of scripture for the past year. I'm atheist. But have a real fascination especially with mistranslation and misunderstanding of translations, more so with modern day bibles.
Hmmm, atheist eh? One that says no god. What exactly do you declare not to be?-How do you understand the word god?
@@vhawk1951kl The bible is written by man. Even the king James translators stated that they were not inspired by god to translate. Maybe I should have posted agnostic..or gnostic? Just means without or with knowledge.
I never said anything about there not being a god. I cannot prove otherwise.
Just because I actually enjoy doing something , which is the discrepancies between the hebrew/Greek into English. Or the fact that the bible is taken out of context ALL the time. I just find it really interesting. I definitely don't have to be religious in anyways to do something I find interesting. 😊
I definitely understand the word of man. Who wrote it.
See I would have went with "Okay according to Aristotle Jesus died twice, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. NEXT."
This demonstrates how utterly ludicrous it is to say the bible is the 'unerring word of god', when it was obviously not only wrritten by men, but by thousands upon thousands of men who together made countless errors, as well as deliberate changes to suit their own biases.
Making those who believe that it is absurdly and pathetically gullible.
It's yet further confirmation that people believe what they're told and/or want and choose to believe, which doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what actually true.
"Very few scholars realized this was a problem..." Exactly!
Dr. Dan Brubaker in a recent video spoke very highly of your work. Consequently, I stopped by for a preview.
Prof. Ehrman delivers another thought-provoking and logical lecture. This phenomenon of cascading errors in translation and transcription can be axiomatized with Information Theory. Excellent and worthwhile video.
It's fanfiction. No different that Dianetics by Elron Hubbard of Scientology. That's the point.
The 'errors' are full stops left out, or a comma misplaced, or Jesus wept, or Jesus cried. they are the sort of varients he is making his money out of
Did he ever get to the part where Christianity was canonized during Constantine’s reign of the Roman Empire where they started carving the gospels up and cutting off complete gospels all together like unwanted limbs? Christianity is probably the most “interpreted” religion on earth.
Why does God have to inspire to have his word delivered? Why can't he or she or whatever just deliver?, just as he has purported to deliver entire 'creation'
Because you can't charge people money if their God just loved them enough to be forthright with them instead of torturing them with games. They have to tithe to their church to get that knowledge. Organized religion is a ponzi scheme.
The real message is ingrained inside of us. You find it if you cared deep enough. External message only provides with a general guidance. It's obligatory only for those who seek more, and want to better their understanding, Provided that the external message, is the real word of God, and not a compilation of contradicting stories!
@@maji9193 how convenient. God didn't write it in the sky, he hid it inside of us, but you can only know it if you accept Jesus first
@@lupooflunarorigin120 Yes, based on the o-so convenient doctrine of us all being born 'spiritually dead' for something WE never chose.
@@maji9193 YA". God allowing the contradicting stories to full fill the earth as man lives in it. Yet hope is still here From 1 man who started this Book 1700 years ago and prolonged up to 40 . , and we still in Belief of it. How much longer for will it take for Man US to Fall Away? 20 100 1000 more years? So hard yet easy or confusion appears in agony suffering Christians who forsaken or feel been forsakened Agrifee .
I can't help bringing up "Life of Brian."
"What's so funny about Biggus Dickus?"
“He has a wife you know... do you know what she’s called?”
The name brian was carefully selected.
Could be misspelt as brain.
Much lack of in Life of Brian.
@@markrymanowski719 Just remember, you're an individual.
"Always look on the bright side of life".
At 1:14:00 he says "The reality is that most academics don't know how to talk to a normal human being." So true. For years Alan Alda has been involved in various efforts to enable people with poor communication skills to find ways to make themselves understood by people who don't share their expertise or experience. Alda wrote a very good book about it that I recommend to academics or anyone who deals with this. (Not an employee or anything, just a fan.) I don't know the rules about recommending a specific title on YT so I'll just say the book title starts with 'If I knew what you were saying..." Also, great talk Bart.
If I understood you, would I have this look?
I have come to know God through Jesus Christ in a way that only His words are reliable. Even if there are 20 men like Bart Ehrman, they can't even touch me. to shake. This only through the Holy Spirit. The rest and peace that God gives is indescribable!
blinded by the holy spirit
@@KalliKall-r7nI agree
Meh you’re doubting yourself that’s just what you tell yourself. Challenge yourself you’ll be surprised.
@ Believe me, in the darkest and deepest night there is no one who can help but ONLY the Lord Jesus. If you think you have peace, tranquility and knowledge then I want to challenge you to go to Him - only then will you know what true Peace and Tranquility is. I would like to tell you; give it a try...:
1:03:29 "The Da Vinci Code says..."
Hey hey hey! I'm the only one who make jokes here, alright?
If somebody was an atheist at that times (B.C.) he or she must have had enormous power. Imagine not being blinded by some stories that fooled everybody else.
That's one peculiar super power to have.
A fantastic lecture. It answered a lot of questions I had. I'm glad you touched on Jesus most likely speaking Aramaic. If Jesus and his followers all spoke Aramaic, why were all the New Testament documents written in Greek? I think the point you made in the Q&A was that the NT documents may have originally been written in Aramaic and then later copied into Greek. But why were they copied into Greek? Was it for the same reason they were copied into Syriac, Coptic, etc.(to reach a wider audience)? You focused on the massive number of differences in the NT manuscripts. I think you said the vast majority of them are small and insignificant. Flipping that, what percentage of the NT manuscripts is the same? If a large percentage is the same, isn't that evidence that the New Testament documents were copied mostly accurately?
This is Charlie Osburn. There will always be haters of the actual work of Jesus. I am a Catholic Lay Evangelist. I am a stupid man like Peter, and the Holy Spirit picked me up one day, a nobody made me a somebody, in front of everybody with our consulting with anybody and gave me an Agape Love for everybody something you don't have to give and the main reason the churches are decreasing and Jesus is increasing.
Bart Ehrman says that every book from the ancient world has the problem of being corrupted and erroneous. The only exception is the Quran. It was memorized in its entirety by dozens of the Prophet Mohammad's companions during his life time and is currently memorized in its entirety by tens of millions of Muslims around the world. 1400 years later it is in its original text to the very letter . It has not been changed to the slightest and there is only one version.
The Quran isn't an ancient book it's a medieval book it's not ancient so it's more likely to be preserved especially with the manuscripts the dates back to the time of the prophet
@@KalliKall-r7n ok let's make it fair. The Quran is 1414 years old. And it has remained preserved since then. Show me a 1400 year Bible that is %100 complete and that has not been changed since then ?
@@bektas1453 no I'm a Muslim my friend I was just clarifying 😅
If they study the bible from cover to cover, they would have left the church.
Great question at 1:08:02 that you need to hear and consider - "omission is not contradiction" - this is material to textual criticism. No two people see or describe things exactly alike. For example, consider a witness who said "I saw and heard Bob and Tom in a room having a conversation. Now consider these facts which are all true but different (1) Bob and Tom were in the room having a conversation (2) Tom was in the room (3) Bob was in the room (4) Bob was in the room having a conversation (5) Tom was in the room having a conversation (6) I saw Bob in the Room (7) I saw Tom in the room - etc - you get my point and the numerous iterations of the statement that you could make and have them all be accurate.
But its God's inspired word so there cant be mistakes God can protect his word dont it i question the preaching at my church alot of times they are contradicting trust i cant turn a blind eye
Each gospel gives something different so they wrote personal stuff couldnt be God words some not all
This lecture reinforces those that believe the Romans invented a man named Jesus and the fact that nowhere
else do we read of this man of miracles, from anywhere or anybody else especially writers in Rome at the time.
You are one of my favorites, please continue in your great work. I love your books because they are so informative and interesting. You are a truth-seeker.
Truth is when you pray to God and He comes down.
you dont have to seek for the truth very deeply to find Ehrman's mistakes
What is difference between Bart Ehemann and Christians?
- Christian task is to build bridges to explain between so much contradictions.
- Bart Ehrmamn reads the book, how it was made by the men
Yup. Ive listened to apologists but seriously fuc their mental gymnastics.
It makes me cringe alot of them.
I have only been a Christian for a year, but during this time, I happened to come across the Japanese translation of your book, Misquoting Jesus, at a library. I read it with great interest and subsequently delved into the original English version. As expected, there are subtle "distortions" in the translation from English to Japanese. Nevertheless, as a Japanese reader, I found the translation both engaging and impressive.
Considering this, even today, I can understand how early copyists, without access to modern conveniences like photocopiers or PDFs and instead relying on the laborious process of manual transcription, might have been tempted to alter texts based on their own interpretations-much like the scribes of the 4th-century Vatican Manuscript mentioned in your book.
We have many 1st century manuscripts!!! Constantine called them all heretic........... Constantine was a Pagan.......... with that said check out the 1st century original manuscripts Gospel of the Holy 12, The Gospel the the Nazarenes, the Gosple of the Ebionites & the Gospel of the Hebrew, confirmed in the clementine homilies and other early church followers we are the church.
Bible in a snap.
Makes sense? God does not violate freewill although he did it many times, so instead of just throwing the ground troll in the fire to begin with, like he will eventually do anyway, humanity is condemned because a woman who came out of a rib was talked into eating a fruit from a walking upright, talking "serpent" who is then given lots of cool powers like temptation and roaming free all over the universe although his penalty was to crawl on his belly, but god who knows how this will turn up and loves us, even though at one point he regrets us so he drowned 99% of us, then sacrifices himself to himself to save humans from falling into the fire that he could have put the ground troll in the first place. Huh?
Yeah, makes no sense that God didn't just throw satan into the lake of fire in the first place. So he lets satan deceive the world and then gives humans the same punishment as satan even though he let satan deceive us in the first place? God's plan is the worst plan I've ever heard of
I am a couple of years late, but yes exactly. This is the entire problem of this Holy Fable. The literal interpretation is absolutely ridiculous. Yet, if an allegorical meaning is translated, then there is no human Adam & Eve and temptation to disobey god, hence it all falls apart too.
Genesis completely debunks the entire bible. I was challenged to read the bible from Genesis to develop a true understanding. I didn't finish the first page till seeing absolute nonsense and breaks from reality. I started with Genesis 1 and already by Genesis 1:14 it diverts from reality and makes no sense. 1:1-5 God creates the Earth, day light and night. But not until 1:14 Day 4 does he create the sun and other stars which light the Earth. LOL Nonsense by the first page. I am more knowledgable than god.
@@marylahive6411 you must be a very intelligent person
The idea of god letting people do what they want is indistinguishable from a god that does not exist. To paraphrase Matt.
+Tom Anderson
Yep, what part do you have a problem with?
By the way, you missed a bit. God orders us to stone each other to death especially women and greedy or drunk children and burn animals alive to keep him happy - and the only way he can ever forgive us for eating fruit is to make a son by raping a virgin then later using him as yet another a human sacrifice. It seems God fucking loves blood spllt in his name, it's the only thing that calms his rage and jealousy.
There was this other bloke who said "leave 'em alone and let them learn stuff" ... he was cast out of heaven. God expects you to believe that this lone voice of reason somehow is the one who likes human barbeques, when in fact it was God who throws people into lakes of fire, including our hero the guy who just wanted us to have knowledge and be like them.
Just proves, they had access to some excellent psychedelics 2000 years ago...
... and now, judging by the kinds of people who lap up this shit.
I enjoy hearing Erhmann talk. He can come to my church any day. I'm always here.
Fascinating video, much enjoyed. I understand this is an academic exercise and the questions asked remained in that context. One of the questions seldom asked or encountered in these types of exercises is what does all this mean to people who see credibility in these types of academic presentations and their search for God. I would be interested to know what influence this type of knowledge has in the presenter’s exercise of his faith, if any. Does it weaken it, make it stronger, more challenging, or destroy its/
Bart is an atheist.
He was angry because he knew the man would run to town and tell everyone even though he told him not to.
Bart Ehrman’s critique of the New Testament overemphasizes discrepancies and lacks balance. Differences between Gospel accounts, such as the timing of Jesus’ death, reflect thematic storytelling common to ancient biographies (bios), not contradictions. These variations enrich the narrative and highlight differing theological emphases.
His dismissal of oral tradition is flawed, as first-century Jewish culture emphasized precise memorization, ensuring the accurate transmission of Jesus’ teachings. The disciples, steeped in this tradition, would have preserved His words far more reliably than Ehrman suggests.
Ehrman also overlooks plausible harmonizations of Gospel accounts. For instance, the timing of Jesus’ crucifixion in John and the Synoptics can be reconciled by recognizing differing calendar systems. Such variations reveal complementary perspectives rather than inconsistencies.
Claims of theological distortion through scribal changes are overstated. Rare additions, like the Trinitarian phrase in 1 John 5:7, are isolated and do not undermine core Christian doctrines, which are supported by multiple texts. Theological stability remains intact despite textual variants.
His portrayal of canon formation as arbitrary misrepresents history. The Gospels and Pauline letters were widely accepted as authoritative by the second century, long before formal canonization. This organic process underscores the early recognition of these texts’ authority.
Finally, his emphasis on textual variants is misleading. Most are minor (e.g., spelling differences) and do not affect meaning. Less than 1% impact interpretation, and none alter the New Testament’s central message. Compared to other ancient works, the New Testament’s manuscript tradition is unparalleled in both quantity and reliability.
In sum, Ehrman overstates discrepancies and textual instability. The robust manuscript evidence, reliable oral tradition, and early canon development affirm the New Testament’s reliability as a historical and theological foundation.
Have you not seen Matthew and Luke have word for word same accounts of the same events, but then have contradictory accounts elsewhere? John the Bapitst’s preaching is very much the same in both Matthew and Luke, but the virgin birth stories are contradictory to a comical degree
As I have examined each gospel I notice that each gospel expounds the word or the story that is lacking in other gospel but i found no contradiction at all.
Just like in Mark the name mentioned are only Magdalene and mary mother of james, but in Luke the women are Magdalene, and mary mother of james together with other women, I see no contradiction there but expounded words or story same with other verses.
The reason why Christian readers find no errors or contradiction is because they read it wholly and entirely thus puzzling the missing event in other gospel and that makes them understand the whole story.
You know the entire history does not solely depend on the writings of one historian. Each historians wrote historical events that are not entirely identical but they're somehow connected to each other the same with the gospel of the Apostles.
Do we believe Noah put all animals--two by two, male and female as it says in Genesis 5, or does Noah put 14 of every clean animals and two of every unclean animals?
Do we believe that Jesus died on Passover as Mark, Natthew and Luke tell us, or did he die a full 24 hours BEFORE the holiday as John’s gospel asserts?
Did Jesus say “No sign will be given” or did he say “a sign WILL be given?"
Did you actually watch all of this video? He actually covers this very thing with clarity.
@Faisal Siraj can you prove that god said that or are you quoting a book that you claim without evidence is the word of god
This professor's lectures are always fascinating.
Wanna know why the bible is so misunderstood? Might have something to do with the fact that there are 5 million different versions.
This lecture was 10 years ago… now they can see how many differences there are in the NT with AI. I mean I’m no scholar but I can tell you, all 4 gospels contradict themselves.
There’s a reason Jesus scolded the scribes. They were lying… and Jesus knew.
Sis, can you give me the source of jesus scolded the scriber ?
@@gemorp8506 don’t you read your Bible? Matthew 23:13-36
@@TeamAbbaFather No and thanks
@@gemorp8506😂😂😂 I use it as a study guide to translate with
Finally! a Christian that is not brainless and just blindly believes in other people's talks
Don't let the KJV only thumpers see this, they'll crap the bed. There's some that think the King James version was written by God himself.
Note that early gospels have been misinterpreted over the centuries. For example, Jesus said "Yes, I KNOW the law says, 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth--or a SLAP FOR A SLAP'..but our Roman occupiers DON'T KNOW THAT JEWISH LAW. So if you want to live, and avoid a Roman dagger in your belly, just TURN THE OTHER CHEEK! If the soldier ask you to go with him a mile, to show him which road to take, GO TWO MILES with him. And if he's shivering in the cold, GIVE HIM YOUR CLOAK! That way you'll avoid being killed and alive to fight another day--when we Jews have out act together". Can;t you see that Jesus was a Jewish patriot, trying to "fish" for men: the "lost sheep" of Israel (Psalm 119:176 is where he took that term). He was a very good Jew, and he based ALL his philosophy of humility on Proverbs 25:6-7,21-22*(Luke 14:8-11 is almost a "word for word" quotation of Jewish scripture). The conclusion is also that Jesus read (and loved) ALL of Proverbs, Ch. 25, and all of Psalm 119 (the most Jewish Psalm in the bible). JESUS WAS A JEW--get that straight, reverend.
just one problem jesus never said any of what the gospels said he said.
+Doug Zembiec Yeah, right, they didn;t have reporters or tape recorders back then--so how the hell did these idiots know what Jesus told Annas the high priest when he was interrogated INSIDE the high priest's house? It all a bunch of ancient fiction, made up by believers of the ancient "resurrection cult" that dumb-ass PAUL started....
I Hate the Party good point about the interrogation.
Dont forget the uneducated disciples wrote it in eloquant greek - their 3rd language after aramaic , hebrew and then greek.
That then brings us to the other problem :
If moses wrote genesis - and he was born 1293 BC
where the hell did he get all his info from iro abraham ,etc etc like the conversations they had and all of that other crap
I Hate the Party if you know any christians , tell them this :
" the disciples were originally Jewish . they were taught the Mosaic laws in leviticus and what they ate was strictly controlled. eating human flesh and drinking human blood was strictly forbidden. please explain why it then would have been ok for the 12 disciples to drink human blood and eat human flesh even if only symbolic ie communion"
Amazing the number of people who are being blatantly dishonest about what the Bible is even after hearing the facts. This is a shame that on the subject of God and worship, people will continue to believe in and perpetrate a lie that Jesus is God or ever said he was. Christianity is not the religion of Jesus and this dishonesty among other things is why Christians are leaving their religion. Shame.
Ameen
I found what I was looking for. Thank you very much.
As did I.
Eye opener indeed