He"s not a ,, so called;, great drummer he IS A GREAT DRUMMER, How many guys here can play with a big band? Rock kit,jazz kit,..missing point! Great skills and performance !Simon is the reason why i play drums for 40 years...thanks man!
Listen to him on ian Gillan, album Naked Thunder from (i think) the early 90’s. It is a great album, good songs and some clever (but sympathetic) drumming.
TPTs: Dave Stahl, Ross Konikoff, Greg Gisbert, Scott Wendholt BONEs: John Mosca, Rick Trager, George Gesslein/B SAXES: Steve Marcus, Dave D’Angelo, Andy Fusco, Walt Weiskopf, Jack Stuckey/B P: Jon Werking, B: Chuck Bergeron D: Simon Phillips Addl. Musicians: TPTS: Bob Millikan, Craig Johnson, Dan Collette, Mike Ponella, Joe Magnarelli, Tony Kadleck, Dean Pratt; TENOR: Gary Keller, Mike Rubino; G: John Hart, Chuck Loeb, Bill Beaudoin; P: Lee Musiker BURNING FOR BUDDY Vol2/1997 - A Tribute to the Music of Buddy Rich GOODBYE YESTERDAY (comp/arr. Don Piestrup) Producer: Rush drummer/lyricist Neil Peart
What is a "rock" kit? he's used this kit in a thousand different musical genres. People just need to bitch. Tell you what: When some of us can boast the skills and resume of this iconic drumming legend, then have something to say.
With all due respect, Sir... This "legend" must be a rock drummer. Look at Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Shelly Manne, Art Blakey, etc, etc. How many drums and cymbals did THEY need? A basic drum kit consists of a snare, a small and floor tom, a bass drum, a crash and ride cymbal, a highhat, and some good sticks. Just ask Donald Fagen or Pat Metheny, and they'll tell you that a drum set shouldn't take up 90% of the whole stage. By the way, all the musicians on this vid have master chops and deserve their due credit, but let's get real here: anyone who desides to cover any song is expected to equal or supersede it. Enough said.I play flute, sax, melodica, and miscellaneous percussion instruments, and I'll assure you: my instruments and l will fit in your glove compartment. Peace. ✌
@@LuisRivera-qp3fi so base on lot of drums setup kit, Ed Shaughnessy is a Rock Drummer when he take a part in this album? Or you don't know Louie Belson make double bass drums and invented that? Or in your glasses Louie Belson is rock drummer too?
Simon is doing a great job. I won't rag on him for having a rock kit. It's the kit he's used to playing. Good job. Ok kids oh much ragging would I get if I arrange a combo version of this head? Gonna try it. Love this song.
What is a 'rock kit' indeed? If you watch a few interviews with Simon he explains a drum kit is rather like a piano in that you get the same number of keys (generally) irrespective of what you play on it. So it is with drums. Why does a snare , two toms and a bass drum constitute a 'jazz' kit or a 'big band' kit? It's utter nonsense predicated on a total lack of understanding of the instrument or its application.
Well guys, not sure what to think here. Do I want to see a guy perform on his signature style kit, or see them taken out of their comfort zone even further and have to play a jazz kit? I say it would be more fun to have them try to do it on a jazz kit. Neil Peart put his ass on the line, and I salute him for the effort.
Sorry,but ..Mr.Phillips don't need to prove anything to anyone. His brilliant extensive resume speaks for himself. Simon recorded ALL STYLES with this signature kit. Neil Peart is'' just'' a great rock drummer. Stiff,mechanical,no swing.Outside of Rush=nothing happens. Even talking bout large kits...Simon's use is incomparable:musical,of course...but...organic,fluid,improvisational....Things that missing in Neil and his same ''preseted patterns'' ,mechanical played all over the Rush catalog. See the difference? ;) By the way,here there are many clips with Simon displaying swing in small jazz sets :)
It would have been part of all the drummers endorsement contracts that they should be seen playing their own set of drums and cymbals whilst filming a project such as this. Simon's drum kit and his drumming were (and still are) a powerful promotional tool for selling Tama/Zildjian and he is one of their top salesmen. I would be willing to bet that this particular footage helped to sell a few sets of octobans, gong drums, starclassics, and cymbals. Drum endorsements were still big business at this time. The same was true for Weckle, Gadd, Vinnie, Steve Smith etc etc. They were the biggest drum salesmen of their time.
If you knew anything about Simon Phillips, you'd also know that he started out playing this kind of music. Rock came later. However, because I'm nothing if not fair. please point me to your own video and back-catalogue of musical achievements so that I can make a reasoned comparison with Mr Phillips.
Louis Bellson frequently played a big kit and he was big band...small kits have nothing to do with the style. The only reason most big band drummers had small kits was because they had to travel and carry it themselves and a lot of the modern hardware to position everything in a big kit hadn't even been invented yet. Buddy wouldn't laugh at all, he'd ask where he could get one.
It's a jazz big band. Of course it's supposed to swing. I am not talking about "Swing music". I am talking about whether a musician swings or not. In this genre he does not. He does not really have a jazz feel at all. A great drummer in the fusion or rock thing but this music needs a certain kind of feel.Not putting him down.It's just not his thing. And a lot of musicians who were in this band agree with me.
@@Vazmusic ua-cam.com/video/MQN9v0aNdy0/v-deo.html make some research and then talkyour shit jajajaja, SIMON was the drummer of a 30's jazz band at the age of 13. He wasn't asked to play like buddy, he was invited to make a tribute the Simon Phillips way
He"s not a ,, so called;, great drummer he IS A GREAT DRUMMER, How many guys here can play with a big band? Rock kit,jazz kit,..missing point! Great skills and performance !Simon is the reason why i play drums for 40 years...thanks man!
Me too. Saw him in 82 with Toyah and was blown away. Then 89 The Who...
lets not forget TOTO, and to think he stopped playing for three years to train to play left handed.
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He would never had played for Toto if he wasn’t any good.
i wish i was as so-called as he is.
Simon Phillips is always amazing to watch. Fantastic.
They are all in such a cool groove....
I see a lot of people complaining in the comments here. Music is NOT a competition, its an art. Lets not forget......
Everypersons here making negative comments can in no way play drums this awsome....he kicked everyones ass 🎶🎸🎼
Buddy Rich band Monday, The Who Tuesday, Judas Priest Wednesday, Toto Thursday, Mick Jaggar Friday, Stanley Clarke Saturday & Oldfield on Sunday.
Amazing performance. Anyone who would criticize this masterpiece simply doesn’t know music as well as they think.
truly amazing piece ...... for me, jazz drumming is a true measure of ones talent.
Oh my god. This was incredible.
I just love this guy.
This is unbelievably great. Well done, not the easiest of tunes. Simon is kicking the band almost as hard as Buddy.
Wow! Great performance
I first saw Simon on ZILDJIAN DAY, from a VHS tape
what a drummer
He makes it look so easy
Simon can play anything. Damn!! Played with the Who, played on Mike Rutherford's Smallcreeps Day, played in Jeff Berlin's power fusion trio, anything!
Listen to him on ian Gillan, album Naked Thunder from (i think) the early 90’s.
It is a great album, good songs and some clever (but sympathetic) drumming.
TPTs: Dave Stahl, Ross Konikoff, Greg Gisbert, Scott Wendholt
BONEs: John Mosca, Rick Trager, George Gesslein/B
SAXES: Steve Marcus, Dave D’Angelo, Andy Fusco, Walt Weiskopf, Jack Stuckey/B
P: Jon Werking, B: Chuck Bergeron D: Simon Phillips
Addl. Musicians: TPTS: Bob Millikan, Craig Johnson, Dan Collette, Mike Ponella, Joe Magnarelli, Tony Kadleck, Dean Pratt; TENOR: Gary Keller, Mike Rubino; G: John Hart, Chuck Loeb, Bill Beaudoin; P: Lee Musiker
BURNING FOR BUDDY Vol2/1997 - A Tribute to the Music of Buddy Rich
GOODBYE YESTERDAY (comp/arr. Don Piestrup)
Producer: Rush drummer/lyricist Neil Peart
Esse Simon é um monstro da Bateria !!!
What is a "rock" kit? he's used this kit in a thousand different musical genres. People just need to bitch. Tell you what: When some of us can boast the skills and resume of this iconic drumming legend, then have something to say.
With all due respect, Sir... This "legend" must be a rock drummer. Look at Buddy Rich, Max Roach, Shelly Manne, Art Blakey, etc, etc. How many drums and cymbals did THEY need? A basic drum kit consists of a snare, a small and floor tom, a bass drum, a crash and ride cymbal, a highhat, and some good sticks. Just ask Donald Fagen or Pat Metheny, and they'll tell you that a drum set shouldn't take up 90% of the whole stage. By the way, all the musicians on this vid have master chops and deserve their due credit, but let's get real here: anyone who desides to cover any song is expected to equal or supersede it. Enough said.I play flute, sax, melodica, and miscellaneous percussion instruments, and I'll assure you: my instruments and l will fit in your glove compartment. Peace. ✌
@@LuisRivera-qp3fi so base on lot of drums setup kit, Ed Shaughnessy is a Rock Drummer when he take a part in this album? Or you don't know Louie Belson make double bass drums and invented that? Or in your glasses Louie Belson is rock drummer too?
Wow. Just... fucking wow.
Geezer 💯
Amazing! Thanx! @
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!
Incredible. 🤯
Simon is doing a great job. I won't rag on him for having a rock kit. It's the kit he's used to playing. Good job. Ok kids oh much ragging would I get if I arrange a combo version of this head? Gonna try it. Love this song.
What is a 'rock kit' indeed? If you watch a few interviews with Simon he explains a drum kit is rather like a piano in that you get the same number of keys (generally) irrespective of what you play on it. So it is with drums. Why does a snare , two toms and a bass drum constitute a 'jazz' kit or a 'big band' kit? It's utter nonsense predicated on a total lack of understanding of the instrument or its application.
Well guys, not sure what to think here. Do I want to see a guy perform on his signature style kit, or see them taken out of their comfort zone even further and have to play a jazz kit? I say it would be more fun to have them try to do it on a jazz kit. Neil Peart put his ass on the line, and I salute him for the effort.
Sorry,but ..Mr.Phillips don't need to prove anything to anyone.
His brilliant extensive resume speaks for himself.
Simon recorded ALL STYLES with this signature kit.
Neil Peart is'' just'' a great rock drummer.
Stiff,mechanical,no swing.Outside of Rush=nothing happens.
Even talking bout large kits...Simon's use is incomparable:musical,of course...but...organic,fluid,improvisational....Things that missing in Neil and his same ''preseted patterns'' ,mechanical played all over the Rush catalog.
See the difference? ;)
By the way,here there are many clips with Simon displaying swing in small jazz sets :)
panzerken dumb comment---- According to your inane logic Buddy should have been playing a "Rock Kit" any time he covered a rock song..... -- correct??
How do drummers not hit themselves in the eye?
It happens
So much better than Buddy’s version.
For gods sake you really need that huge drum set for this gig, this guy, come on.
That’s his kit. His signature kit that he almost always uses. Big deal.
That's his instrument.
It would have been part of all the drummers endorsement contracts that they should be seen playing their own set of drums and cymbals whilst filming a project such as this. Simon's drum kit and his drumming were (and still are) a powerful promotional tool for selling Tama/Zildjian and he is one of their top salesmen. I would be willing to bet that this particular footage helped to sell a few sets of octobans, gong drums, starclassics, and cymbals. Drum endorsements were still big business at this time. The same was true for Weckle, Gadd, Vinnie, Steve Smith etc etc. They were the biggest drum salesmen of their time.
To see the so called great drummers make fools of themselves trying to play big band and jazz is laughable!
If you knew anything about Simon Phillips, you'd also know that he started out playing this kind of music. Rock came later. However, because I'm nothing if not fair. please point me to your own video and back-catalogue of musical achievements so that I can make a reasoned comparison with Mr Phillips.
Funny, I've heard of him. I've never heard of you.
As much as i believe Buddy is the man, i don't think he be as comfortable as AND as good as Weckyl is.with Chick Correa.7
If Buddy saw that kit, he'd laugh his ass off. Rightfully so. Get it done on a five piece Simon. This isn't lame fusion nonsense, it's big band.
Louis Bellson frequently played a big kit and he was big band...small kits have nothing to do with the style. The only reason most big band drummers had small kits was because they had to travel and carry it themselves and a lot of the modern hardware to position everything in a big kit hadn't even been invented yet. Buddy wouldn't laugh at all, he'd ask where he could get one.
conservaslayer : He got the call. You didn’t. Go do a take of this yourself and post it.
This really doesn't swing at all....
Listen again
Agreed.And what is with the half time shuffle thing? He is a great drummer but this is not his thing at all.
It's not a swing chart!!!
It's a jazz big band. Of course it's supposed to swing. I am not talking about "Swing music". I am talking about whether a musician swings or not. In this genre he does not. He does not really have a jazz feel at all. A great drummer in the fusion or rock thing but this music needs a certain kind of feel.Not putting him down.It's just not his thing. And a lot of musicians who were in this band agree with me.
@@Vazmusic ua-cam.com/video/MQN9v0aNdy0/v-deo.html make some research and then talkyour shit jajajaja, SIMON was the drummer of a 30's jazz band at the age of 13. He wasn't asked to play like buddy, he was invited to make a tribute the Simon Phillips way
He ruined that song