The Rise of FUBU Scammers: Black-Owned Multi-Level Marketing Companies | deep dive$
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2023
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Thank you 4 watching the first-ever episode of Deep Dives. Tell me your MLM stories
Keep making content, like this!
@@jonathanhensley896 I'll be hitting other topics, but I can promise the format will be just as engaging 🤝🏾
MLMs are parasites, they just take and take. Glad I happened upon this video, so well done. Bravo!
Well done you! This is excellent content! I was in Mary Kay U.K. and there’s a huge group of black women who got trapped in there. The alleged number one world wide in Mary Kay was Gloria Mayfield Banks. Look her up!
Bro I use to sell verve also once I started getting busy the FTC closed them down. The product was good, but once they kept talking about the money mostly it took away from the product
One of my homeboys tried to recruit me for his coffee business. I remember his sales pitch: “How much is a gallon of gas? Me: $2.87. Him: A pack of this coffee is $5.85. This is more expensive than gas bro. Coffee is the future” I literally got up and left the room. Years later, I was like “yo bro remember that scam you tried to get me in?” He goes “yeah them mofos got me” 😂Lol
Lmao what a pitch. I would've had the exact same reaction
I came back specifically to say "Coffee is the future" is hilarious
😂😂
lol coffee costing more than gas haha
I know I typically consume 3-5 packs of coffee driving to work every morning. Logic is a beautiful thing.
The realest thing about this video is smelling the grift but sticking around for the free pizza.
You don’t have to buy the timeshare to go through the buffet
Would definitely be me.
@@rudyardganuelas6254I’ve devoured some of my most gluttonous meals while listening to some weasel try to sell us a timeshare 😂
😂😂😂
Best insult I've ever seen online is saying "your father sells Avon."
classic
Avon did me good though. LOL I never got involved in that mlm stuff. Just sold the products.
@@JoyfulOne468SSS is nice though. ❤
@@JoyfulOne468same here.
OUUUUUUUCHHHH😅
This is what I’ve been saying for years. The person who gonna scam isn’t always the guy you hate but the one you implicitly trust.
100%
Plays on the “trust tribe members”and fear those outside the tribe which js a product evolution. So common that it has a name: Affinity fraud is a type of investment fraud in which a con artist targets members of an identifiable group based on things such as race, age, religion, etc. The fraudster either is or pretends to be, a member of the group. Often the fraudster promotes a Ponzi or pyramid scheme.
"Fun" fact, the dude who had the longest running Ponzi scheme in American history did it by exclusively hitting up Mormons as a member of the Mormon church.
You’ve been saying that for years?
people are slow to speak out on mlms cuz they are afriad of being deemed 'hating on someones hustle' but it goes double for fubu businesses cuz the race card comes into play unfortunately
it's a culture of shaming similar to the crypto space's "FUD" (fear, uncertainty, doubt). But there's another layer of hating on your own that gets thrown in. I've gotten accused of it in this comment section many times.
There should be a culture around shaming people who fall for MLMs.
@@planetschlockshaming people isn’t very effective at getting them to do what you want. It doesn’t make them want to listen to you. It just increases suffering, really
@@socialist-strong i dunno, it seemed too be pretty effective in the past. just look at how afraid people are of using the n word even though we all think it like 20-30 times a day. even if they don't listen to you, it shows other people what kind of ridicule to expect if they also go down that path.
@@dissimulii "we all think it like 20-30 times a day" i think thats just you lol
Great video. Women have been scamming other women for YEARS with MLMs, your equation of need and desperation making you a target is spot on. My own aunt convinced me to invest $3000 in Mary Kay when I had a baby and was desperate. Did nothing but create CC debt and make me feel like I was a loser, when obviously it’s a saturated market
Thanks for being here Jen. What a terrible thing for your aunt to do, good lord. Glad you were able to come out the other side, how's your relationship with that aunt?
Your aunt presented you with a business opportunity, it was your own lack of work ethic, lack of motivation & drive, lack of wanting to better yourself that led to you being in debt. Because thousands of others have turned this opportunity into a consistent 6 figure income, where they are able to achieve complete financial freedom & even travel the world through paid for trips by the company. It’s easy to deflect our personal failures onto others, but sometimes we need to accept responsibility for our own actions sweetheart.
@@macysondheim what you're not gonna do is attack women in my comment section fam. Be brainwashed in your own corner of the internet.
@@macysondheimThis is very true... Last time I checked Mary Kay is responsible for the most women millionaires in the US.
I grew up in Network Marketing. My father was wildly successful in several companies and developed a 5 figure monthly income. I myself did "pretty" good in several companies but I never made more than 10k a month. As a person that participated in the MLM industry I can tell you first hand that most people who join are lazy and scared of rejection. You literally have to be fearless in talking to mass amounts of people until you find the ones that want to join. Most people hardly talk to anyone and when they get told no and their feelings get hurt they want to quit and claim "the business doesn't work".
The business is NOT for everyone.. especially those with no work ethic to sell/recruit other distributors or for people who will quit at the first sign of adversity.
@@CamJameslol @ you believing:
1. That you have any control over what people do or don't do in the real world let alone here on UA-cam. Or,...
2. That it's honorable to cape/white knight for a female as if their entire gender is above reproach/being held accountable for their actions simply because they're a woman. When you do things like this you:
A. Give people the impression that you were improperly raised by a single mother without enough positive male influence. And,...
B. That you have a remarkable ability to make/keep women's Virginia's dryer than the Sahara dessert.
- A female that likes to be treated as an equal.
This gave me flashbacks to when we were kids and we had to do those sale fundraisers. We would go door to door selling overpriced goods that no one one wanted and depending on how much you sold, you would get anything from a slinky to a cheap kaleidoscope.
we were used so hard as kids lol. kids should not be salespeople
Right lol 😆 🤣
FACTS. 😂😂😂😂😂
I remember those in elementary school, looking back on it it was soooo scummy.
Ugh I loved those things 😂
I love how universal that 'getting invited to a "party" just to find out it's a pitch' experience is... at least for college students. Great video
their favorite tactic smh
I had a black coworker (I'm white) try to "invite me to a party," and started to talk to me about business opportunities during the middle of our nursing shift! I requested not to share any more shifts with her
Yep, had that experience as well. Pizza party invite flier, no details... turns out it was a pitch for joining the campus Christian prayer group. Certainly not the worst thing to be roped into, but still.
@@jawarholol4651 I’m black and my white coworker tried her hardest to get me to join Arbonne. She told me she could help me through a party and she would do facials. No mention of her business at all. Then after I got fired she invited me for coffee and had her up line there and tried to get me to join at my lowest when she knew I needed the money😢😢😢 she said it’s just $250 to set everything up. I didn’t have that. She told me to ask my parents. My parents don’t have that much to give me either, but I wasn’t interested in starting a business. I just needed a friend. 😢
@@jawarholol4651sorry that happened to you btw
My mom fell for an "education investment" scam suggested by her friends and it's specifically targeted for immigrant parents that think they're doing the best for their children. It's disturbing how the Korean churches is a festering ground for MLM schemes because they're mostly targeting vulnerable immigrant families.
it hurts especially to hear about immigrant families being taken advantage of, including those who at times don't have the best grasp of English or cultural norms. Nobody deserves that
Was it one of the Moonies Unification churches?
Korean people and Japanese people can sometimes be terrible at questioning things (high trust societies). At least Chinese people know everything is a scam lol.
It's especially insidious in faith communities as well as groups of all types because trust can be abused and avarice is a universal temptation, especially among those looked to as authority figures. For that reason, we all carry a responsibility to search for and resist avarice in ourselves the higher we rise in life and calling it out when we observe it in the world.
Props to CamJames for calling it out!
@@brock5373 : While there would be a certain irony to MLM operators working inside a cult that founders weren't profiting from, there are many faith communities based out of South Korea that have nothing to do with Moon. I've seen MLM worked in communities of many shared beliefs, sometimes faith, other times things like politics or patriotism.
Preying on people's lack is a big problem in our community.
Absolutely. Every section of our community. We're the most innovative hustlers but this one isn't even our original idea.
Pastors have been doing it for years.
Sadly everyone does this to our communities even our own
Get a job, preferably a trade.
@@AE-sy1pnnot just pastors, but _prophets._
Their churches are always packed and they have live TV channels. You can tell that everyone there is incredibly desperate.
Of course the guy left in his private jet once the people started to think he’s suspicious
There was a bit of a cruel joke in my religious community growing up that MLM stood for "Mormons Losing Money". Great videos man, I'm subscribed.
Jim Lewis get you guys?
What was the name of that Utah MLM with the hideous, multicoloured leggings which middle-aged white women were all crazy about? I forget now
Anyone else feel like life is a scam
that'll probably be my last video topic lol
Absolutely. Depending on who/what you were born into life is absolutely a scam
Damn near everything in American culture is.
A scam so big you can't escape it is called The Economy.
Life can be anything. Life in an economy is on rails that you can't get off if without disaster, and you can't change without luck or someone letting you onto a different track.
Nah, just the economy
I remember when my wife and I had our first kid, I was the breadwinner, and she felt useless staying at home. Somehow, she got into that Herbalife BS, and I didn't know about pyramid schemes back then, but I had a bad feeling about it from the start. A year later, the person who recruiter her online kept hounding her to try to sell more but no one would buy that stuff off of my wife. I'm glad we are past that part of our life.
Glad for you, it's a major strain on relationships
It's sad she felt useless doing what a mother should do: care/nurture her child(ren).
@@ajc7175 I was thinking the same thing. There's nothing useless about being a Homemaker or influencing the next generation (being a mother) unless you choose to not be proactive. 💔
Where I’m from in NC, Hispanic people have Herbalife on lock. It’s always a little store with green curtains or paper in the windows and it’s called “Something Health”. It’s always a small room in the back with a treadmill and some weights. In the front is where they serve you Herbalife shakes and get you to buy more.
@@ajc7175 Because a good portion of that probably spent doom scrolling on social media, and she compare her life to all the "bo$$ babe$" posting their social and financial masks online and felt inadequate. The best thing a grown, responsible adult can do for their sanity and relationships in modern days is walk away from Social Media. All of it. No fakebook, no fakegram, no CCP Socialist Tok, no more lurking on X, and no more self-hating with the other miserables that make up Reddit. 98% of people do not have the discipline, self control, cynicism, and higher level thinking to handle immersing yourself and looking for the diamond in the septic tank of content that is Social Media. None of it is good. Inb4 "but it's a good tool for communicating" - You mean it's a good tool for lurking.
My MLM story. I'm a black woman who lives in the Midwest. An older white lady who lives in my apartment building immediately showed fondness towards me, and I actually appreciated it because it has been tough making friends out here. We went out to the park and some shows a couple times, and I learned that she was dealing with chronic pain from extensive joint surgeries. We got to talking about covid and she said she reluctantly got vaccinated once but never again cos she didn't trust it. I was like, okay, that's cool. Next thing I know, she's talking about this supplement that she's selling that basically cured her pain, and made Jesus walk on water. I thought it was weird until she invited me to a marketing meeting, and sent me brochures to expose me to the product. I'm a scientist so I was looking for scientific journals or medical professionals addressing the supplement...not a one. She further explained that she knew people who had become millionaires from the product due to how effective and popular it is. That's, all those people except her of course. I noped out of that and have never heard from her again - not even to just hangout. Sad.
They are user.. They see you as a mark at all times.. it's devastating when you thought you had made a good friend!!
Thank you for telling your story. This happens to so many people, over and over again. So many holes in her explanation and the lack of science would be one of my first red flags too.
There people are usually overly friendly until they determine you're not buying what they're selling. Then you don't exist if they can't make money off you. These are not nice people.
agreed, they switch up quick
The ones who know what going on, even the lower ones to an extent but mostly it's a cult. They're losing money, don't have time cause they're trying to make it back, being told to hussle 24/8 to be successful, cut off anyone who tells you it's a scam. Freaking cult
Great vid m'bro.
Knew an older gent in NYC some time ago, who'd just done twenty for fraud, and learnt a few things from him. One of the most important being this: "the hardest people to grift are the honest ones, while the easiest are the needy, the greedy, and the believers." and about believers he said this: "it doesn't matter what people believe, it's the act of believing that makes them vulnerable, because belief is an doorway their souls, all he ever had to do was find the key to that door, and he'd own them". He said he found it both depressing and amusing, that it was usually those he ripped off for the most, who were his greatest defenders.
Keep it on the swivel✌🏾
poignant statement there
HIS truth: “…. all he ever had to do was find the key to that door, and he’d own them.”
THE truth: The jailers had the key to his cell door, and they owned him for twenty …. 🥲
@@BrendaBaBoom😂😂😂
This is so true.
Bro this ain’t new. My parents fell for Amway in the 80s. Uncle and Aunt fell for one in the 90s. I got invited to a “gathering of cool people” in the aughts. The scams don’t change because people are greedy. Hopefully people get the message today, but my expectations for humanity are extremely low.
I'm white but grew up economically underprivileged in a diverse area so even I have seen my fair share of "FUBU" scammers. MLM scammers are already pathetic enough but they're somehow worse still.
"somehow worse" is exactly how I'd put it
Somehow worse as in Black?
@@JapanSpr94 I'm not even going to entertain that, it's pretty obvious what I was implying to any rational person.
Don't be a knob@@JapanSpr94
@@JapanSpr94
Worse because their exploit other people of colour.
It seems like the OP suggests that white people deserve to get scammed more than Blacks
I was a victim of one of these schemes. I needed a way to pay for college and fast, and I got the right email from the right black owned MLM and at exactly the right time. I still haven’t recovered from the mental damage.
sorry to hear that, for real. i've heard from many others about the fallout from being caught up in these schemes and I can only imagine how rough that recovery can be.
you're a good person keep your head up and persevere my dude.
A man covering antiMLM is refreshing. Id love to see more. It's definitely a niche that needs filled.
Great video! Looking forward to seeing your channel grow!
thank you so much for the support! i absolutely will 🥂
I got 100+ ideas to get u to next level with good price …just hit me up
More Black and Brown people need to talk about this. I see our people getting played so much. 😞
Seems like there's a new scam every damn day tbh. I got sick of seeing it and realizing so many were falling for it; had to speak up. I really appreciate you watching!
JT the pocket watcher and Tony the Closer do a great job of exposing these scammers. Check them out
Not only that black people kill each other and do more harm to each other at an alarmig rate.
I agree
Brown?
It’s a huge problem in immigrants as well. I’m Pakistani and there are a lot of these mlm guys that pray on new immigrants that show up at the mosque. It’s not so bad at the mosque I grew up in but still they pray on them. Great video.
I've definitely heard of the problem in immigrant communities
Same! Indian people do the same here in Canada. Many of my uncles tried to get me and my parents to join their mlm insurance shi1. Thank god my brother knew that it was bs, otherwise, we would be poor asf
They do it in Mosque and Churches like crazy. They go after immigrants.
Prey*
You’re supposed to be praying 🙏 for others is appropriate at a mosque 🕌
Preying is not lol
Well it's hard to feel bad for anyone from the country that hid bin laden
One of my old plugs was constantly trying to recruit me into whatever new scam he was getting caught up in.
smh...the worst
I’m really glad you’re talking about this, the more we talk about MLMs predatory behavior, the more people are aware and can stay safe, especially people in vulnerable situations
Editor's Note: The case against Holton Buggs & AmeriSciences' founders was a civil suit, so those weren't "charges". That was my mistake in the script, the details of the case are in the video description. I meant to write "found liable", and I am not a lawyer lol.
fo sho!
the fact you are correcting yourself on such a minor matter is amazing. loved the video, the overall quality and style. keep it up man!
I also spat out a little bit of my drink when the red flag came up in the background. cheers mate!
I AM a lawyer and you are good! 💙
This video was randomly suggested and I'm SO happy I watched. That last part about how MLMs set our people back permanently struck deep. I don't think people think about the long term damage of getting into these type of “businesses” can cause.
man i'm equally happy to have you here. thank you for the feedback!
I watch a lot of anti-mlm videos and content about exposing scammers so I'm happy the algorithm put your video on my feed. I love how you sum up the whole thing at the end: real people who were already vulnerable to begin with are getting hurt by all this and it has to be called out. It's wild that you can be called a hater by pointing out that these types of businesses are predatory.
you are so underrated good lord. i fully thought this was like a 1mil channel i had just never heard of. i'm excited to binge every single one of your videos
it's awesome that you got that impression, thanks for watching!
I hate these scammers that prey on people's desire for community. People have to stop being greedy as well. That's where these things get started....
It's all greed at its core
Greed is dangerous. Everyone wants to get rich quick but that’s not how it works.
It's greed on the part of the people at the top of the pyramid/MLM but the people who are at the bottom of the pyramid are usually desperately poor and/or hate working for corporate America (hostile work environment) and want to own their own business, set their own hours, etc.
Thank you so much! I've embarrassed "friends" who've invited me to MLM meetings because I'll stand up in the middle of the meeting letting people know that it's predatory.
The hero we needed, and didn't deserve 👑
I’ve always dreamed of doing that. You actually did it!
Lol! That’s so confrontational! Did you go to the gathering with that plan?
Respect, someone’s gotta let me know. Public humiliation an effective way to burn that memory in
Thanks for putting this online.🎉
The MLMs (aka Network Marketing) programs are borderline legal and just skimming under the ponzi radar by having these “products” as a front. Without the products, they are a recruiting ponzi business.
Unfortunately, the affiliate marketing model is also becoming similar. The “product” in affiliate marketing often times is “training” to be successful. They are marketers, selling marketing to other marketers to sell marketing to other marketers. And don’t have a legitimate product.
This being said, there are affiliate programs that have legitimate products and services, that pay commissions in the affiliate, marketing world.
The big warning ⚠️ sign, is talking about the money, constantly talking about the money constantly talking about the money. Money, money , money.
In business, money is obvious, it’s the product, service, or the cause that is important.
Thanks again for sharing this wisdom. 👍💕
Amazing vid. Very concise without filler cutaways, unnecessary attempted humor, etc. Subbed, keep it up we need more creators like you.
concise is the goal and I'm glad you felt that way 🖤
Instantly subscribed. Great coverage on a topic without enough attention. Keep up the good work!
Ran into another black man and he seemed so sincere when we were discussing business plans. He offered my a free mentor ship and lied to my face because the whole time he was just trying to get me into the MLM pyramid scheme. And don’t even get me started on the BLM movement. $60M+ in one year and we barely see any change. Shit is sick but it reminds me not a skin folk is kin folk and the people that match your vibe are a part of your vibe no matter what they look like.
"Not all skinfolk is kinfolk" is a mantra I live by. BLM was a damn shame, I might have to talk about them smh
Damn, I haven't heard that saying but it is so true. I've always hated when people just stick up for others based on race, regardless of the circumstances. Trust me, I know my own white community is horrible about this too... maybe this is my own bias speaking, but it seems to be a huge issue within the black community. I'm consistently blown away when I see black people being clearly taken advatange of by one of their own, but they'll defend that person just because their skin tone matches. Again, I know white people do this too... but I don't see them defend their own when they're the ones getting scammed, at least not very often. Sure, white people will irrationally defend their own, but if a person screws them over then they're pretty quick to turn on that person and quit defending them.
I really wish we as a society would get away from this tribalistic mindset. I was lucky enough to marry into an extremely diverse family. It's awesome seeing such a large group of people from every different race/background you can imagine get together and just enjoy life. We can all talk openly about anything and everyone is simply a person. Life is too short and too hard to be wasting time on stuff like worrying about skin color. Just find people who have similar values to you and focus on enjoying it.
@@CamJames please do a video on BLM!! I would absolutely love an in depth investigation on them and what they do with our money.
@@Tigatron1448what do you know about the problematic intricacies of our inter-communal issues? you think having black peers renders you to speak on it or what? mind your fucking business
@@Tigatron1448the more you look into humans, the more you realize that tribalism isn't only effecting societies, but humanity as a whole. Whole wars have been fought in the modern day (albeit stoked and funded by external interests) due to tribalism.
I love Anti-MLM content, nice to see a person on color in this lane. MLMs are dangerous to our communities and ppl are too embarrassed to speak out about it. The people at the top know exactly what they are doing to the people at the bottom, Im looking at you Coach Stormy. Thank you for your work.
MLMs are just the most apparent form of FUBU capitalism. This all really begins with the split between W.E.B. DuBois an Booker T. Washington. On the one side you have the argument that the emancipation and development of black civil society is found through labor organization, the analysis of history, and broad emancipatory politics that focus upon the poor; on the other side is the idea that black people will be served by developing a black elite that can compete with the white elite in America. Time and again it is clear that the development of a black elite does little for the rest of us. Once money is accumulated and consolidated it stays where it is and as so many corporations project this image of ethics and care (and as more black people go to college and gain access to that bourgeois strata that was unattainable for so long) it becomes clearer that a new social class does not pull black people out of poverty.
The crazy thing is that Booker T Washington changed his view on the black elite helping the community toward the end of his life.
@@TyMarie92 do you have any essays that you would suggest?
@@michaelcarrig627 I was wrong! It was W.E.B. Du Bois about his talented tenth. I can't find the source anymore. It was some years ago when I first found it.
I really think you have the two mixed up - are we really to believe Booker T Washington's worldview is the one that won out? Are black Americans today conservative and deeply Christian the way Washington and his followers were?
Do we really think the welfare atate has ultimately been a good thing?
When I read Washington I see old school Christian principles more than "black elite" - focus on virtue, family, community, take agency over your life and accept that which you cannot change...
Is it not the DuBois model of focusing on politics - and placing civil rights type political leaders in positions of influence - that's actually ascendent these days, and seems to be making things worse? Is it not the case that there is now a black elite who rise to political power then turn around and insist to all the other blacks that perpetual victimhood and demanding reparations and the like is the way forward?
this might blow your mind, but it turns out you aren't entitled to things just because you're black, and that includes not being entitled to other black people's money
Ayo thank you for speaking about this.
I went to university in Germany and at that time I watched A LOT of youtube and people like you who talk about scams or MLMs in general have kept me from accepting to go to those events.
great to hear this. glad the work is having a positive effect in the world
I live in an area with a really large hispanic population. Herbalife goes out of their way to target hardworking immigrants who want to make a better life for themselves and their families. Spanish language marketing, hispanic spokespeople, anything they can do to seem approachable by that demographic. They have the drive and work ethic these companies prey on when they sell their stories about building a better life.
i've seen those stories in the Herbalife doc, there were a lot of Hispanic families victimized (and still are).
Partially true. The jobs migrants are the jobs most Americans won't work. Landscaping, construction, field hands, janitors, etc. Jobs that are generally frowned upon by the general public.
neither black nor white people are native to north america lol. not taking sides here but you aren't owed anything by birthright so focus moreso on the legislation in place rather than pin things on another race or whatever. You'd do the same thing in their shoes, so the problem isn't them
Funny you mention that because I remember seeing the Herbalife building here in New York and it borderlines a Hispanic community 😨😨😨
@@PeaceWatcher-ek7zl that's irrelevant compared to eastern people populating the NA in the somewhat modern era. 14 000 years is enough to lay claim imo
My ex fiancés mom was completely obsessed with a travel agency scheme. She spent thousandddssss of dollars and was like she was in a cult but just like u said, she was desperate.
they're very good at tapping into that desperation
absolutely loved the video, you're showing such an important narrative while giving us all the info we need to know in a concise video, such a great creator
glad to hear this, and glad to help inform
well done, brother! thank you. my whole life been fending off the mlm cultists. all my life. not one, willing to do their due diligence, all buying the lies. sooo sad. folks need to be extra super careful!
thank you for watching!
You earned my sub in the first 5 minutes. Approaching such a serious topic with your sense of humor is the best way to educate people and tell your story. Looking forward to seeing your future videos man.
Aye thank you for watching and letting me know! Back tomorrow 👨🏾🍳
I went to one of these meetings because a friend told me it'll be a good hangout (never trust "friends" that you havent heard from in decades, that basically groom you into showing up for these out of nowhere), and it's all predatory - you are supposed to be part of select few invited to speak with "Mr.X", a visionary secret billionaire that is accidentally in town to share his money making wisdom with you... and then you get to a random hotel and theres probably 2000 of black folk out there, all dressed very nicely... and then some dude just shows up and starts saying "broddas and sistas" every 2 words, and then "lord provides" and "do we not deserve better" and then "Let the non-believers leave the room" ... before finally actually saying what the scheme is - its basically a debit card of some sort that you do all your purchases with. I didn't stick around long enough to learn more, but they are basically going after the most vulnerable and poor in their schemes.
all that checks out. Using religion and cultural ties to dupe ppl is repetitive at this point
What you described is affinity marketing, sometimes known as affinity fraud. Wolves pretending to be sheep to fleece the flock if not eat some of the lambs (in faith communities).
LOL that’s exact pyramid scheme was on shark tank and the guy got absolutely destroyed😂
Thank you , I appreciate you. And I hope ppl take heed to your message. I've shared it FB Public. Trying to save as many ppl as possible from going down this rabbit hole. Stay blessed young man.
You should definitely do more deep dives into FUBU MLMs, this was the first video I found of yours and I loved it!
glad you enjoyed it! Will be revisiting this area at some point for sure. for now I'm investigating other topics to get a broad range and find my audience
As someone who spends their working day with Anti-MLM videos in the background, this was one of my favorite videos I've seen. Well done, important stuff that needs to be said
thank you for watching and for letting me know!
Lol, why do you spend your day like this?
Yikes
@@Llistenandlearnwhy are you spending yours like this?
Friend of mine tried to rope me into an MLM. I asked him how he got into it. He said he sold his Xbox, encouraging me to sell my PS3.
Maybe this was immature of me but my PS3 was my lifeline for a while. That crusty blu ray player meant more to me than words, and if I sold it and this shit didn't work out, I'd be worse off than broke. That MLM got shut down by the government. My PS3 is still alive and well today. Hope he don't miss that Xbox.
it gets a lot worse than selling game systems but i'm glad you still have that PS3. it's a messed up thing to suggest tbh
Sellin that playstation is hood bankruptcy
@@venicec3310😂😂
@@venicec3310ayooo no doubt! My family had to sell the Xbox 360 back in the day.. I’ll never forget that shit. Had a job in two weeks and ain’t been unemployed since 2006. Shit changed me
I hope you never stop making these I’m gonna binge your whole channel 😊
ayee enjoy!
I've been following anti-mlm for a long time, and I love learning about corners of mlm I don't know about. I think it's SO important to talk about the ones that use culture and identity to target their victims. Great video :))
muchas gracias
Have you heard of dropship lifestyle?
I try to make people understand. This is akin to a heartbreak. To be fed hopes and dreams to only realize it was a lie..
I’ve been studying MLMs for almost two decades. Your analysis is perfect. Great work.
thanks!
2 decades studying something my man just broke down in less than 30 mins 😂😂
@@dwavyy300you know how many years of collective progressive knowledge and experience it took to do that?
Randomly found my next youtube binge watch channel. Great video !
glad you found me!
Love seeing a new perspective on the plague of MLMs to our society. Great work and well done. Keep it up!
bruh, "Plant sourced silica" you mean the sands thats on the damn roots? 🤣
Great video! My first MLM experience was vector/cutCo. Fortunately, a friend happened to be at the initial meeting. We didn't know or understand what an MLM was back then, but the whole setup didn't seem like a viable long term business to either of us (we were highschoolers at the time so the fact that children can see through this was hillarious). We ended up just leaving mid meeting. These MLM companies will go into highschools and ask for students phone numbers. That should be illegal. You can cover that on a deep dive video.
Unfortunately you were right, the people who stayed at the meeting, and roasted us for giving up such a golden opportunity, were highschoolers with children, people who really needed a break, and people who didn't really understand how business works. I really hope content like this gets out to the right people.
I appreciate the story and you hit the nail on the head. It’s really devious how these companies can prey on people whose brains aren’t even fully developed yet and trick them into something that’s going to end up ruining their life. it’s nuts.
Vector almost got us right out of high school. $18 an hour to sell knifes. Those scissors cut Pennie’s in half 😂
@@mindalteringfx316 god damnit vector…
I watch a ton of anti-mlm content and haven't really seen anyone focusing on this aspect! I understand you're not an anti-mlm creator, but I think your perspective is very needed in the community!
that's very nice of you to say, thank you! i try to present ideas in a way i haven't seen anyone else do it, it excites me. i can pretty confidently say i'll be returning to this topic at some point, the interest is clearly there
Just commenting for engagement so hopefully your video gets recommended to more people like it was recommended to me. Great video, important message, very well made. You’re clearly passionate about informing people about this issue, and it’s fantastic that you’re arming people with knowledge they need to protect themselves and others from scammers. Thank you for doing this. I’m sure it will help many people.
This channel is quickly becoming a favorite of mine. Well spoken, logical approach to stuff. Surprised you don’t have more subs man!
it's happening in real time lol, thank you for the compliment ☀️
Generational wealth absolutely requires financial education. Something like 70% of fortunes are lost in the first generation and 90% are lost by the second. Don't leave behind as much as possible for the kids, set them up with a minimum and let them know that while they will never starve or be without a home, if they want luxuries, it will have to be earned. That's how I intend to create generational wealth - and I will do it via Trusts. Remember: if you don't plan, you plan to fail
Please be careful with trust. People lose their money all the time. One thing to consider is releasing funds after 25 or 30.
I was suckered into a vemma verve pitch back in 2011 as a freshman. Was so excited to be invited to a "party" by a friend. I was kinda hyped when I was there, but I was already scheming on "wait, how about I hold off on signing up until I have 5 people in my downline ready to sign?" As a way to reduce my exposed risk 😂
Then I went back to my dorm to figure out it was an MLM. Knew it sounded too good to be true.
the stages of realization lol. We all start off excited
At least you realized it early enough.
same, dude invited me to come over and smoke, was a Vemma pitch. I could not stop laughing, I had to go outside to chill because it was so obviously a scam but all my dumb friends on the football team got owned, it was hilarious.
Excited I found your channel! Great video. And I love that you have captions! Thank you!
thank you, and you're very welcome!
I love the editing!
thank you!
I work with financial advisors and it’s really sad when they tell me that they DO NOT TRUST them because of previous experiences our people who are unlicensed that “manage their funds.” It hurts most because when they find the real help they are distrusting and brush them off
yeah that trauma can be hard to shake
My ex bf is a financial advisor as well and he would tell me me every day. Social media preys on ignorance.
My older sister pulled me into one. she rushed me into it before i had the chance to do some research. I thought I could trust her turns out she was just scamming me. we no longer talk and I told our parents on her
good lord. I'm sorry to hear that, wow
Are you sure she did it on purpose
? I can say from experience that it's hard to see that it's a scam when you've gotten deep into their "educational programs ". She may have been genuinely trying to help, and she might need someone to help her see what's really going on.
@@TheBargainista101 no she knew. maybe not at first but she knew when she took my money. I went to her house to see about my money and heard her laughing about doing the same thing to our aunt. she was annoyed and started talking shit about her every time she ignored hers calls.my aunt keep calling bc she trying to see about her money she was scammed out of. then a mnt later she her long time bf of 15 yrs was engaged and married. she used our money to fund her wedding I believe. my aunt and I wasn't the only people she got and her bf was scamming to.
@@ashleycollins3303 Wow! I have never heard of someone paying for a best friend's wedding! What type of MLM was it and how much did you lose?
My brother always said: “why do you need other people to get money?” And I’ve always used that rebuttal when people tried to get me into the pyramid schemes. If the product is good, why do you need me and other people to get under you to sell it
a great starting question for all MLM pitches
Your delivery is amazing I loved the video. I consume a lot of MLM warnings content but you're definitely different and the way you grabbed my attention is amazing. Love it. Subscribed.
I appreciate that!
The Credit repair services are another major scam going on.
I worked with a guy briefly at a major Govt. Contractor who was very hooked into the DC political scene (family friends with Mayor) that just went and joined some 'start up' credit repair business aimed at minorities.
He previously had to testify in hearings due to major issues with a Hospital their 3 person company was running which had no experience running hospitals ever (company included a relative of his and her husband. The husband stepped down from Boards in DC over the past few years due to 'perceived' corruption. They also had a family member hired to the Mayors team after a donation from that husband!). This Hospital contract was a No-bid contract awarded directly to them by Mayor.
How evil do you have to be to award millions of dollars and give control of a Hospital to a 3 person company of your friends that have ZERO experience managing any kind of Healthcare facility, let alone a major Hospital?
The level of fiscal and moral irresponsibility that blooms from the seed of MLM membership has no bounds. They stop seeing their fellow humans as people, it's sickening. Thanks for your story fam! I'll add that to my list for a follow-up as well.
I haven’t finished the video yet but already crazy respect for watching scam and MLM videos and getting into it yourself. Crazy balls to just do it and do it with high quality brother
Now I’ve finished it and I was right. These dudes are such fucking goobers. The MLM/Crypto shit is a personality trait
i appreciate that bro, thanks for taking the time to watch. I've been a content creator forever but there's definitely something intimidating about stepping into an area where you've never been. Figured somebody had to shine a light on these in 4K.
Well Done & Well Spoken!!!💯🙌🏽
thank you!
As a Black woman, I was immediately drawn into this video's topic bc like you, I also feel strongly about this. Then you played my FAVORITE ARTIST'S (aka, The Weeknd's) music & I knew I was going to love this video! 😂👏🏽 This was a FANTASTIC video & I really appreciate hearing a fellow a Black person try to educate & warn our people about these scams, thank-you!
*Now, I can't ignore that you literally quoted "FUBU" in the title of this video, aka a company started by Daymond John, who pretended he cared about the Black community, meanwhile, during his time on Shark Tank, Daymond "collaborated" with a Black-owned business, named, "Bubba Q's Boneless Ribs" only to SCAM them!!! I beg you to look into this & speak on it bc Daymond MUST be called out, not only for scamming, but for scamming our people!!*
Anyway, great video, I'll be subbing ASAP ❤
*Edit:* Oh you DID make a video calling out Daymond, thank-you!! Watching it now 😊
yesss, glad you found it. I was working my way up to that, had to build an audience first. thank you for watching!
Very well done. I have a group of friends at my church who are caught up with the a way cult. I’ve distanced myself from them. Sad how predatory these companies are being.
absolutely, that's why i had to say something
It's hilarious how you're saying other people are in a cult when you literally go to church.
@@TheRealCatofto each they own. We just gotta lead with love despite differences.
🫡 GREAT Video ‼️Well done Bro!
Looks like you sent some people my way, much appreciated bro! Glad you found me 🤝🏾
You have great skills at telling a compelling story. Incorporating your own art makes it feel very authentic too! Keep it up
amazing feedback, will do!
Hell yes. Beautifully done and on such an important topic.
And The IT Crowd cutscene had me 🤌🏻🤌🏻 that show is so underrated.
yes ma'am! i've found my people lol
I’m so glad YT is recommending this video. This topic is so necessary; especially for our people! I can’t wait to see where this channel goes! 🤝🏾
We both are lol, caught me by surprise for sure. Welcome to the fam 🥂
@@CamJamesit’s one thing to hear it from John Oliver (respect, tho) - it’s another thing to hear it from a peer…. We (Hispanics, blacks, non-degreed Asians) are vulnerable in ways that some soccer mom from the suburbs does not have to worry about…
I'm definitely realizing that people needed to see a peer do this at a high level. Glad i could help, and I'll be back.
You've inspired me to share my experience...as a musician who has experienced black mlm's mostly in L.A. ----ministers & fake doctors, sovereign nonsense folks, etc. it's a trip!! great & insightful video bro!
I'm sure LA is unbelievable. The more voices the better bro!
Wow 😳🔥🤣🔥 terrible but when you said fake doctors, ministers etc- I just had to laugh
I just ran into your video it was really an eye opener very valuable information keep empowering us with your knowledge you don’t realize how much you are helping ppl to protect themselves from these vulchers who have no heart, I’m a new subscriber thank you 🥰
Great job by you!❤ Keep grinding!
thanks for the love Phillip! 🥂
Great video ❤
Thanks for spreading awareness
This showed up randomly in my recommended.
I hesitated but I decided to give it a try.
I hardly comment under UA-cam videos despite spending 3 hours a day on here, but this video was well done especially for a small channel.
Well done.
Apparently UA-cam likes me? lol that's great news and I sincerely appreciate the feedback. I don't take your attention for granted and I'll be back real soon fam.
Been making music and films for years so it seems the skills paid off lol
100% agree, this is not a subject I’m exposed to at all, but I’m happy I got the recommendation and watched it, a very interesting and well made video! This is why UA-cam is such a good thing.
You would think that these scammers would go legit after making so much money but they don’t.. they continue to scam and as crazy as it sounds a lot of them die broke and lonely.
That's the confusing part; I've never understood why there isn't a stopping point after people earn a certain amount. I wouldn't start a scam in the first place though, guess i just can't relate to that greed.
@@CamJames same! I stopped trying to figure it out a long time ago.
@@CamJamesThe same people that selling raffle tickets at the intersection, there's no drawing🤣
This shows that money or throwing money at a problem to solve it specifically does not solve anything. Once the corrupted gets money, havoc ensues...
they are pathological. from personal experience, they just dont feel 'right' unless someone is getting the shaft. at the same time they need acceptance, validation and admiration from the people they scam. its crazy!
This is so good! Discernment is everything.
everything!
Great video and commentary!
thank you!
Shout out JT the pocket watcher for suggesting this video these black scammers need to be exposed
Glad more people are talking about this! Sadly it’s a big problem on our community and I barely see blk folks educating/talking about it
Thank you for being here! Clearly i chose the right topic to start with.
Idk about all that. Tony the closer and a few others has been exposing alot of scams but because alot of these scammers have money the regular folks eat that shit up and they turn against the people who are exposing the scammers. What I’ve come to realize is to not look bad as a race people will allow all sorts of shit to happen to their own kind because they don’t wana be perceived a certain way. I mean the most common rhetoric the scammer fans make is “see when a black man gets a little bit of money they always wana hate” mfer it’s not hate it’s people in the community tryna hold other people accountable but because people in the community know they will have to hold themselves accountable it’s a lot more easier to just tell people to mind their business then to hold yourself accountable for the mistakes of your people.
And when you decline this BS, they exclaim “That’s why we will never get anywhere as a people”
Incredibly high quality content, just subbed
welcome to the party!
This is gold tier content. I see this stuff all the time living in Atlanta!!
I lost it when you drew out the pyramid on their website. 🤣 8:27
lol they could at least try to make it less obvious
I can’t believe I’m catching you before 5k subscribers. I wish you continued success!
I used to sell Cutco to my family and luckily at that time they didn’t require me to put a down deposit or anything, I just didn’t make much money and what little money I made was on my parents and uncles buying some knives that were overpriced and unnecessary. Crazy how these scams are still running strong.
as long as there's money, there will be new scams. thank you for being here!
I sold Cutco here on Long Island. I think their goal was to sell you that starter sales kit. It was only like $100. My parents still have the knives 25 years later. My dad used to be a butcher and he said the knives are actually very good quality. But yeah Cutco was definitely very scammy.
They had a shell company on Long Island called Vector marketing.
FWIW Vector Marketing is a legitimate sales company with CUTCO. I was a district manager for them for four years. It was an awesome decision for me, but it definitely depends on if your manager gives a shit about you or not. I've heard tons of stories that didn't match my experience, but are almost certainly true. Sucks that y'all had bad experiences.
Excellent video! I like that you speak from the heart. I look forward to watching more videos.
Keep talking about this, very excited to watching your other deep dives. The anti mlm space has plenty of room for more perspectives.
“Other people make worse decisions than I do…which makes me feel good about myself”.
Subscribed.
Might be a record time lol, thank you 🥂
That’s exactly when I hit the button as well😂
Man. your work is for real. I stumbled on this in a rabbit hole, but it's work like this that makes me jump down them in the first place. Just wanted to encourage one thing. Deep Dives like this. I can already see you have a SERIOUS gift for it, and with the way you roll these are only going to get better. Educating and informing people is a CAUSE, a noble one, and you have a voice and presence built for it. Keep it up. I'll be listening.
thank you Kevin, the feedback keeps me going. got a couple episodes out now and i can definitely say each one is improving on the last.
your editing style is so cool i really like it
thanks!
Thank you for a well produced production. You're an excellent communicator with a big bonus...Musician. Respect! Helping humans to not get entangled in scams is important community service today. Please continue.
Bro great video and great narration for everything. Let me tell you a funny story, I was finishing my undergrad while driving Uber to pay bills. Mind you I'm in my mid 30s and I just applied to Law School. I pick up this couple at a hotel and the trip was to the airport. Along with them was another lady that was with them but they didn't know, they met her at the hotel. So we start talking and they flew there for a "convention" . So now I'm thinking, cool... many professionals fly to conventions. Turns out when I asked what it was about, she was super secretive, and wanted to tell me it's a great opportunity, they were all amped up lmao I was like OH NO this sounds like a damn MLM and she just got hypnotized by what they fed her. So I'm telling her I'm in the process of becoming an attorney. She goes " Well if you do this opportunity you might forego those plans " , I did the biggest EYE ROLL I ever did in my life. OMG, you want me to stop my dreams of becoming an attorney to join a SCAM MLM?!?!?!!! I felt bad , she told me to exchange numbers with her husband and awkwardly I just kept silent. I dropped them off and that was it.
yiiikes lol, wow. drove UBER briefly and the people you meet are definitely the most interesting (and sometimes unpleasant) part
@@CamJames
I'm not pro MLM nor anti MLM
But you should do a deep dive on the biggest MLM scam of all Uber & Lyft
You assume all the depreciation, wear & tear on your personal vehicle and get paid insanely low wages in exchange for your time - I'm glad the Auto Insurance Industry stepped up & starting charging those fools increased Insurance rate for being vehicles for hire
I'm just curious - what did you get your degree in from GT?
@@johndooley5928 it is definitely a scam but im not sure how its an mlm
@@johndooley5928 How is Uber/Lyft an MLM? MLM has a very specific definition.
@@johndooley5928tech companies are grimey.
Great video. I just gave a Black-owned MLM in Atlanta a donation because I didn’t want to believe my friend was desperate enough to try to scam me. Novae.
your friend is absolutely desperate enough
Yes, Novae sells a business credit and debt settlement business opportunity for I believe $25,000 I hope they get exposed been around a while hustling folks 😳
Great video. I’d never waste my money on such scams, but it’s good that you’re exposing them and making other people aware. Hopefully people will listen.
👏Well done, excellent presentation! Continue keep us informed, thank u.👍
i absolutely will.
I got caught up with Prepaid Legal, Ibuumerang, and Pruvuit. Didn’t make a dime and it is cult like.
same schemes, different branding smh
Don’t forget time shares when u don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything. Thanks for shining light on this if it saves a few people you’ve gained much respect
can't forget timeshares...and the mostly older people they prey on. John Oliver did an excellent piece on those
And thank you!
@@CamJames yeah that John Oliver video is excellent! My wife's sister and her husband recently signed up for "fractional real estate". Sounds exactly like a "time share", except it's not somehow. I didn't read the paperwork or ask too many questions, but I hope it turns out well for them. Instead of just being a single location, you can go to different places, but still seems pretty much the same as a timeshare. I'm sure there's probably some good use cases for fractional real estate, but I'm sure the majority of the companies are just scamming. In the end, I'd rather pay for a hotel or air bnb instead of signing any contracts.
In one of the shortest videos that I’ve seen about the subject, you managed to make one of the most thorough videos I’ve ever seen on MLMs.Please continue to make informative videos,brother you’re on to something here
being concise is my goal, thank you for noticing! other episodes are out and they get longer, but hopefully you still feel the same after watching