Corvette Z06 vs Lotus Emira // DRAG RACE, REVIEW & LAP TIMES
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- What happens when you take the Car of the Year from last year and put it up against the previous year? You get a clash of extreme car enthusiasm. The Lotus Emira, our previous THCOTY, is a six figure, manual, supercharged Beauty. But the Z06 is a 670hp V8 Beast. Will they fight, or will they live in a castle forever under the sun? Let's find out in this video where we drag them, track them and give them some laptimes.
Thank you to @MichelinGlobal for supplying Tires for this day
A huge thank you to Leggat Auto Group for letting us feature their Corvette! www.leggat.ca/?...
And to the Emira owner, @AKMT.auto for letting us experience, even for a short while, what it would have been like to own an Emira.
Editor: Karston Chong
Sound: Harrison Dickson and Karston Chong
Magical Genius Logistics Planners: James Engelsman and Joey Alford
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#THCOTY #Z06 #Emira - Авто та транспорт
The Canadians organizing a rematch of the war of 1812 was not on my 2024 bingo card.
😂😂
Wtf 😄
Oooh, does the video end with them burning the Corvette? (yeah yeah, I know it was the British that did over Washington but let's go with the popular misconception here...).
That’s one way of putting it 🤣
Nobody wants to see the asininity of the War of 1812 again...
Okay I died when James thought Thomas's impressions of a whimsical butterfly was actually of him😂
I hope you get better.
RIP. Funny, you were able to type the comment after you died.
Ow but James is a whimsical butterfly isn't he
Well staged, right?
That butterfly set James up.
Z06 was so fast it made a Brit and a Canadian say "Zee"
Americans named the Z06 and they say "zee" so it's a "zee"06. That's what it's called.
@@fraserhenderson7839 That is not the point lol.
As George Washington once said: what the fuck is a kilometer?!??? 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅
@@fraserhenderson7839 As if Americans called things named by Canadians, Brits and Aussies with "zed"
@@tomatodamashi Canadian here but also egalitarian. Do you get to choose how to pronouce the name of a person or do you pronounce it as they wish you would. You can pick an choose and split hairs but it has a name, an American name.
Corvette Z06: Olympic gold medal winning super model who also has a master's degree in physics.
true. best bang for buck on the planet
Her family is a bunch of bible thumping rednecks who love guns.
…who happens to be the girl next door you used to go skinny dipping with. In other words…not completely made of unobtainium.
Best bang?
True except one of these will turn heads and it's not the vette
That noise from the flat plane V8 in the Z06 made my nostrils tingle.
10:25
If you've ever heard one in person, it'll make your whole body tingle. Videos just don't do it justice, I couldn't believe how loud it was when I first got mine. Hard to believe it's stock!
Truly turns the nostrils into an erogenous zone
I think that's the Miami Columbian ... BaKinG SoDa.
Chewing 5 gum will do that too.
Getting out of an Emira and into a C8 Z06. Not a bad day, this one.
then your head will explode if u ever hear a v10 or v12 in person
@@firstgear8022what is bro yapping about
@@Naized I believe firstgear meant to respond to fookie-fone's comment above about the sound of the Z06's flat plane crank V-8 but, was just a bit outside.
Famous quote from the Hamster when he was in Dubai to race a Veyron against an F1 driven by the Stig.
@@firstgear8022 i have. my ears climaxed.
It's really a GT3RS lap time for a third of the price, thanks to Porsche dealers' $200k markups.
If you ever wondered what that Porsche badge on the front of a GT3RS is worth, you have your answer!
That’s also assuming you can even get an allocation for a GT3RS, they’re hard enough to even get the OPTION to buy one
@@lebojay Can you just put a lightweight Porsche sticker badge on a Beetle? "Basically the same" 🙂
In the UK it’s 190k vs 150k so it’s not that huge of a difference.
so much disrespect for the GT3RS, Yall must have never driven or owned a Porsche lol
Your video was a big part of the reason I bought my Emira. Have had it for 9 months now and love it. It did end up on a tow truck with under 1000km on the odometer though. 😂
Congrats on the now 1 year old, James!
no way didn't realize you got an emira too! i watched your channel religiously when i first got my FRS and your channel was project brz
Lol sheesh. Crazy when I see another sim racing guy. Big fan of your channel too
Hey man, I’m a long time fan of your videos! I couldn’t keep up, though. Finally threw in the towel with iRacing. The amount of fun I was having just didn’t justify what I had invested in my sim rig.
Enjoy the Lotus!!
🇨🇦 🇬🇧
should have have bought a v 8. sorry figure U are an influencer from reply`s. oh well live and learn. or keep cars for clicks. if a true car guy would buy the best car for the best money. of course, hey if you love it despite it`s faults all I can say is I understand and happy drives
@@richardmead5969 calm down mate
Sad to hear that emira did not join the TH family. BUT it is stupid how long the delay was. You guys made the right call, great content thanks for making it!
I can’t imagine waiting 2+ years for a $100k sports car just to find out your feet are too big to drive it.
I know I made a comment quite some time ago that there are dealerships in the US with them on the lot. Naples Motor Sports in Naples, FL has had scores of them for about a year. So, they could have cancelled the ordered vehicle and found one close to, if not spot on, to their desired spec and just picked it up. Not sure if they were getting a deal on pricing with the one they were ordering.
its not even a Lotus anymore Mate. Its a Chinese own company now hence the undertsteer, lol . but seriously its own by Geely, state run and the fastest growing car company in the world .they also own Volvo, smart, polestar and the London ev company .
@@BeethovensLaguerreRacing That exactly explains the big back log for people ordering the Emiras. The vast majority of cars that were first off the assembly line were slated to go to China!
@@dougt5357lotus is dead to me now. I don’t care if they go out of business. They’re going down with daddy Geely.
😂 that drag race was like the Demon vs Lucid race
I was thinking the exact same thing.
That wasn't a drag race. That was an exorcism...
it was 400 feet behind lol
"That's outrageous"
I was waiting for the "A Few Moments Later..." meme to show up as we waited for the Lotus to cross the line. lol
That Z06 is amazing. I'll probably never drive one, but if I win the lottery there will be signs...
Like a street sign? A vision? Perhaps you're envisioning yourself wrapped around a tree at about 140? 😂
And theres still another trim above the Z06 being revealed next week. Nuts
Possibly TWO trims above the Z06; the ZR1 and the code name Zora!
Zora will be a 1000hp awd gt2rs competitor 😎
@@johncena-hq1ti
And capable of attaining low-earth orbit from a standing start....
2 trims zr1 and zora
@@johncena-hq1ti looks like the zora is gonna be around 1200 hp, the zr1 is 1,064 rwd, and the zora will most likely have awd and the hybrid from the e ray pushing it to a minimum of 1,200 hp which is going to be crazy to see
I got a Z06 HTC last month
And the car is way over my expectations
The sound is addictive
I'm in love ❤️
Congratulations on the purchase dude!
Awesome mate congrats on your purchase.
Got mine in June!! Great car!
Congrats! What an incredible car!
Congrats I’m waiting for the zr1 but I’m tempted to get the zo6
For me the z06 would have me staining the back of my pants,the Emira would have staining the front.
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Oh look, the perfect comment.
😂😂
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I'd end up spending more on Michelin Cup 2Rs than I make annually. LOL , Best bang for the buck being made right now, imho. Have a good weekend, cheers !
Damn, now I can’t wait til they put down a lap time in the upcoming C8 ZR1!!!
Ford GTD might try but for $350,000 yikes
@romanthomas2.0 cars like the Ferrari 488 Pista or the Mclaren 765lt are definitely some competition. Love vetts but we'll see 💯
Yes, especially since its reveal and 1064 hp twin turbo flat plane crank 5.5 ltr.
@@8bert9 now that we know... 🔥🔥🔥
I’ve been waiting a long time to find out if the C8 Z06 puts down a faster lap time than the C7 ZR1.
I was not expecting the Z06 to beat EVERYTHING including the freakin 911 GT3 RS!!!🤯
And it was the convertible Z06, no less. The coupe is about 100lbs lighter still.
Also without the carbon fiber rims!
In a bigger track, the GT3 RS will win, it posts better times overall. IMO, the Z06 was targeting the regular GT3, which still has aero, but looking at cornering speeds, they were nearly neck and neck. GT3 RS aero is a step above both and allows for faster cornering speeds, enough to negate Z06 power advantage. GT3 RS is a much more track-focused machine, even as much as both the GT3 and Z06 are already very track focused. It'll be close, but there's enough data on the GT3 RS out there now to know it's a little tick above the Z06...and the GT3 is a little below.
@@JamesNoBrakeswrong. Bigger track comes with longer straightaways which will be in favor of the Z06 since it comes with more power.
@@David-jh8mp Bigger tracks let the increased downforce of the GT3 RS at higher speeds work better, so it still turns faster times.
" begin to have an accident" lol
😂😂😂👍
I heard this in Jeremy Clarksons voice
James has a way with words, I would buy a book of his poetry.
I’d say that for Thomas 😂
Come here my blossoming rose
Let me touch you in your nose
You will feel it to your toes
Z06 on the top of the leader board made me yell as if it was a goal in soccer 😂😂😂
I too got insanely pumped USA USA USA
videos never do justice to how incredible that corvette sounds
The only real argument for the Z06 not being a supercar is that it's not $690,000 with only 420 produced. Regular well off people can conceivably get one. The Incredibles said it better than I could: "when everyone's super, no one will be."
That’s my thoughts, this video was just evidence of what happens when a really high end sports car goes up against a low-end supercar. As a Brit my money will always be with the lotus, but that Corvette was mind bending-ly fast, and a 2 fingered salute to Porsche
People have scuffed the terms so badly, they're meaningless, just use them how you feel..... To be completely cliche, it was better back-in-the-day when there was only "exotic sports cars" and supercars. If it was a normal series production car, 911 (any trim), F355, DB7, etc, it was the former. F40, XJ220, McL F1, etc, were the supercars. Then the term Hypercar come around, and it's all jumbled now. People call the Revuelto a hypercar, I could disagree more.... I can't remember the last time I've heard the phrase "exotic sports car."
The Z06 IS a super car, it’s just not a European/“exotic” super car. But make no mistake, it’s no “mere” sports car, it’s a super car, point blank.
The Emira is a high end sports car; there’s nothing “super” about it outside of its amazing looks.
IMO the z06 just has a supercar engine. The car is very heavy and in a lot of ways not built like most supercars if you dig into the details. Chevy throws a lot of HP at it to help bring the perf numbers back up. It undoubtedly achieves there.
Subjectively, these cars have very little visual appeal to me. I spend maybe 3s checking them out when I pass them.
@@slideways8022 Surely the Emira is for modding, anyway? You can stick whatever engine you want in it, or crank its standard engines up to silly horsepower.
oh man that Z06's sound is just something else
ZR1/Zora vs 992 GT2 RS in the future would be crazy
It would be. As a die hard Corvette guy, the GT2RS will probably be faster on most tracks, maybe with the exception of some like VIR. But overall performance and road driving would be fun to compare.
@@Marcello2005 yeah, I have to remind myself that a gt3RS has only about 500 n/a hp to show those lap times, I can only imagine what a gt2rs with ~800hp will show. Although if a Zora is planned to be a 1000hp awd hybrid monster, then it will be interesting to see. The zr1 will be probably a zo6 with turbos bolted to it.
@@Marcello2005It all depends how much aero they are going to give for Zr1. If its something crazy like Gt3rs then it might have a chance
GT3 RS dethroned on track...yeah thats hard to swallow. Plane wing vs brute force, on a small track the force wins. Good thing Round 2 is coming around, GT2 RS vs Zora will be insane to watch
The Zora will be insane!!!
Maybe the ZR1 high spec
It would be cool to see a map of the track and where you are on it while hot lapping!
This is a stellar idea actually. If the editor could make this happen I'd LOVE that so much.
Drone!
Great idea! You see that all the time with cars at the Nurburgring.
I am pretty sure they used to do that, but that is also a difficult thing to do editing-wise, and I think they just recently had someone leave the team, so it might have been the editor. That, or doing something that advanced may have been deemed not worth the effort. OR maybe that was planned, but they ran out of time to edit it and just had to send it without that part.
Viper ACR needs to come back on Cup 2 tires.... Battle of the big Americans 😊
Look up GT2RS vs ACR
It beat the GT2RS on equal tires
On Cup2Rs it beats alot of cars
The ACR they tested, if I remember properly, wasn't the extreme version..
The original OEM tires for the Viper ACR were bespoke R compound tires made specifically for that car. Cup 2’s won’t bring that much to the table.
@@markw9512 As someone who owns a Gen V Viper, and tracks it, the Kumho tires aren't remotely to the level of the new Cup 2Rs tires. They are better than the Cup 2 standard tire, but not the Cup2R.....however, they currently do not make the Cup 2 R tire in the sizes of Vipers. The ACR would in fact be .5-1s faster with those tires than with the current Kumho setup.
@@hprracingchannel I’ve heard different about the tires. Even if true, it would need a hell of a lot more than a half to 1 second to beat a Z06.
Kinda crazy how far the Corvette has come lol, now in the same discussion as Porsche's best. Wild
That supercharger whine, it never gets old!
I ordered an Emira after watching your Emira video. I also cancelled my Emira order after delays. Next week my Z06 is getting manufactured!
How hard was it to get a Z06 allocation?
@@Alpha99333 My local dealer had a long wait but I called a higher volume dealer that had no wait and sold at MSRP. Worth the 1.5 hour drive.
Man after seeing this car omg you bought a work of art
@@barryrodgers3039 Good to know. I plan on ordering a 2025 model towards the end of this year, so hopefully I get similar luck.
Congrats! Mine was built last month and I pick it up in Bowling Green next week. Worth the wait for MSRP.
That Z06 is a true work of art OMG!!!
Two years ago I built an Emira and submitted it to Lotus. Star Motors out of Houston was my closest dealer. Not one email or phone call in months. Put an order in for a 22 GT500 and actually have been owning it since Nov 22, modified it, makes 875whp. Very happy...
Much better choice, (salute)
I'm admittedly a Corvette hater but competing with, much less beating, the GT3 RS for half the price is impressive.
Lotus sold pretty hard here. Missed out on all that free PR😂
Honestly, how does a company that prominent not have someone in charge of making sure people with an audience don’t experience their awful delivery times? It’s baffling.
But given the reported reliability problems, maybe Lotus dodged a bullet
@@quattroCrazyyou would be surprised how many companies don't like money
@@quattroCrazy that's assuming it's not a disaster of a car
It's honestly very good. It was a tough decision, but I love my Emira and have had zero issues with it. It's a joy to drive at any speed.
This should be called Waitlist of the Decade 😂
It is amazing to see that the Corvette C8 Z06 was able to beat the magnificent Porsche 992 GT3RS at the track.
I was waiting so patiently to see the Z06 on the home track. So pleased that it finally happened!
This is what I love about cars. These two are as different as you can get with 2 seat sports cars but both seem exceedingly fun.
One word: Nostrils! This is why they are among the best out there. Wit & humour (spelled incorrectly for James’ benefit) on top of genuine enthusiasm and knowledge of autos - makes them exceptional!
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It's crazy how fucking beautiful that Lotus is though. It's an absolute all timer, literally can't get over it.
Honestly love you Throttle House gents. I got my emira a month ago, and I have to say it is absolutely intoxicating. She's beautiful, she sounds exceptional, and she's fast (genuinely 4.5 is plenty). 2nd gear takes you close to 70 and the sound is out of this world. That supercharger just does not stop. I haven't driven ferrari or genuine supercars but I cannot imagine needing anything more. I've had middle aged women in Wimbledon stop me and tell me how nice it is. I've had kids and grown adults alike compliment me, and every drive is an absolute pleasure. I'm obsessed and I have not looked back.
Put a Larini exhaust on it. I did and it sounds proper supercar amazing.
It’s fast…if ur used to driving a Corolla
Yay, New content from TH.
Edit, Dear James, where did you come up with the analogy about someone's girlfriend's erogenous zone being her nostril to describe the steering of the Z06? How does your mind work? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So one last thing. Do we noww need to retest most cars with Cup 2 tires then?
You know those questions in life that should never be asked? Yeah that's one of them.
just subtract 2 seconds for high performance cars and 4-5 seconds for normal ones..that's roughly the amount of time Cup 2s would save on each lap. The Cayman GTS would def beat the Emira if it used the same tires
I'm honestly a little disappointed with the Z06's time given what it got in Car and Driver's Lightning Lap competition
@@vicariousity3046car and driver's results should always be taken with some salt
@@vicariousity3046I actually expected it to lose considering what the matchup looked like on hagerty.
@@fl00d69 Nah, it's James. I would be pleasantly disgusted (if it's possible) by the off the wall answer he'd give tbh 🤣🤣🤣
Yes 🙌 Throttle House drops are my new drug!
Interesting that they dwelled on the Emira beating the Cayman but didn’t realize or point out that it beat the Z51 version of the C8
New title: "float like a butterfly, sting like a ray"
The back and forth in this video is just spectacular.
The zo6 is a monster really
It really is
I’ve never been this excited for a throttle house video
Put it this way, a used lotus mira cost $143k CAD and a brand new C8 corvette 1LT cost $91k CAD (and would still match the mira on any track with the regular base 6.2L V8). If it were my money, I'd take the C8
number 1? nobody can say the zo6 isn’t a supercar!!!
I mean, TBF, they don't really have a single undisputed super car on the leaderboard. They're a bunch of cars like the corvette that people argue about whether or not they make the cut. Some people consider the GT3 RS a super car, some argue the only 2 911s that qualify are the GT2 RS and Turbo S. Some people would say the Viper ACR is a super car, some people argue it isn't. They need to get some undisputed supercars like a SF90 or the new lambo around the track, so we have a good comparison.
@@abelincoln4374
They dont like american cars being
Respected like their favorite EUs.
Thats all
@abelincoln4374 those are hypercars tho, they both have 1000hp. Do a ferrari 458, I am sure it won't do better than a 1-08-000
My z06 was built on Wednesday, and I can't wait to pick it up. That said, it's not really a "supercar" because it doesn't have the exclusivity element. It's a bargain sports car with "supercar" performance.
@@abelincoln4374I think the SF90 is more hypercar. Both that and the Revuelto have the speed, price, quality, and exclusivity of hypercars.
The Corvette showing up everyone yet again. Every generation since the C6 has been THE CAR to beat, and the C8 is no different. PLUS I heard one the other day and wow, what a sound. 10s across the board (actually minus 2 for no manual but alas)
And the Lotus… 👁️👄👁️ look at it
I’d choose the C8 just on the fact that the Lotus will spend more time in the repair shop than on the road. The whine of that flat plane V8 clinches it too, there is no equivalent unique feature on the Lotus, it’s just a pretty car.
The Lotus is much more than "just a pretty car". But you would need to drive one to understand.
This is absolute top tier production, you guys keep exceeding yourselves in the best way possible. Also thumbs up to the sound designer/editor for having that ambient piece when showing the car stats - standardize that!
I can’t wait for the E-Ray track review along with the ZR1 and Zora. GM really killed it with the C8
E-Ray is slower than Z06 on track but faster than Stringer
The e-Ray and z06 are probably my favorite specs
@@NegativoZ06 not the 1/4mi track and I have yet to seen a side by side race with BOTH on Cup2rs.. So far they give numbers running with the ps4s.. Cup2s make a difference. Then also 2 it depends on the Track. Ones with long stretches no doubt the Z06 will do great.. but ones like these guys used with lots of turns. It would be a nice show for them to do one with both cars. For some reason no one really has for some reason head to head.
Woah...that Z06 is incredible
Hi Guys. Love your work. For those of us that can’t afford expensive cars (I’m a physiotherapist in Australia so I make a reasonable living and I still can’t afford cars like the Z06 and Lotus Emira!), watching the fun you two have, the genuine camaraderie and the great car reviews, it’s unsurprising that your UA-cam channel is growing almost exponentially. Keep up the fun!
Corvette lap felt like controlled chaos, loved it.
yeah james in thomas's eyes you're definitely a butterfly
Unless they do all EV’s from now…”oh god don’t say that!” 😂
The next Lotus will not be a full EV.
Great review guys, the Lotus get it for the looks, but that sound of the Vet is intoxicating. The Fiesta Flash
As someone who has the Ontario plate "6SPD" i appreciate that plate on the Emira 👍👍🥰
I'm a sucker for lap time videos
Corvettes, Mustangs and a Viper in the top 10! Love to see it! Especially the mustangs :)
Can't say American cars can't turn anymore.
And the Z06 is the only car
To use equal tires as the GT3RS
And the AMG Black Series
@@cs1375
American cars have been turning
Since the 60s. This is a toxic car
Community, they will always use
That bs joke
We're talking total numbers of onlookers at Cars and Coffee that have been sent to the hospital, right?
@@davidg3944 double knee slapper my man
A while back I tried to make the same comparison between these exact cars and no one out there had compared them truly. Since then I decided on and bought a z06 and got it a couple weeks ago. I am in love! Just a weapon of a car.
When I'm James looked over and said "That thing is ****ing gorgeous" I said to myself "yeah it is" and Thomas then repeated my sentiments word for word.
Yeah, it is gorgeous.
Wow 😲 that Vette makes me proud.
I canceled mine as well for the same reasons... Delays and price kept going up... Ended up with a low mile 21 Evora GT... No regrets! Love the Evora!
Harry Metcalf mentioned that the Emira has a sports alignment and a track alignment. Seems like this had the former and explains the understeer.
But damn that Corvette
I love the license plate on the Lotus:
Save 6MT👍
I figured it out. 6 speed manual trans...
I love Porsche's, my dream is a GT3, but this new Corvette has everything the GT3 RS has. The engine is just as special. The looks have grown on me, you can drive it without looking like you're heading to Le Mans... The feel? Don't know, haven't driven one... But to be honest, even here in europe where the Z06 is 200k Euros, the Z06 would be the car to buy between these two...
Would still prefer a manual GT3 tho.
Now I am going back to my bicycle.
Manual Z06 :D
Z06 is a GT car with 2 trunks.
Its just really good on track too
Dodge fan in the house…
@@WindyCity1992 You have no idea what you're talking about. Z06 is a track car that can behave nicely on regular roads, the E-Ray is a GT car that is also really good on the track.
looks ehh still not great looking just acceptable
Usually great drift cars are not as fast on track as those who are not. That said, Emira seems to hold corners very well.
Man you guys always have me laughing my butt off all alone at home on my couch! Awesome!
That Zo6, though ..really looks good in black..😊
That’s because in black you see less of it.
I was about to say the same thing. It looks like a monster.
@@lebojay agreed, it hides some of the questionable styling on the c8
@@lebojay Something only a hater would say. This car looks magnificent in any color.
@@lebojay Hater.
Can't believe they cancelled the order for this automotive greatness
Kids
Waiting 2 years will do that.
What automatic greatness?? Porsche Cayman GT4 cost less than this.
V6 Camrey engine, 4.7 sec car is going for $120k 😂😂😂
Need both these in my driveway… insane.
Thanks for answering my question on your last video about your Lotus Emira order with this amazing video! Makes it even sweeter as a Z06 owner ❤
thankyou toyota and lotus for building this car. Who would think a camry engine and a supercharger. Wow😊
"Let's remove some of you from the equation" 😂
That Z06 Corvette is just _beautiful_ .
It really is
Visually, I think it's a bit of a mess. It's built for speed, not beauty.
@@davidturgeon2087 Well each to their own ^^, I personally love the look of it!
Love my C8Z htc, had for 17 months. The front and side views are beautiful. The rear could use a little work, emira rear is beautiful and side profile.
@@vettesweetnos Honestly I don’t see anything beautiful about the Emira. I think it’s bit overrated in the aesthetics department. Looks rather bland tbh but not a bad looking car by any means. Now this 2023 Z06/Z07 70th Anniversary Edition in Carbon Flash looks absolutely stunning.
Such a proper car review. The benchmark. All other youtubers that test sportscars on public roads tooling around town telling everyone how great or horrible a car is should be ashamed.
wait, so the Z06 convertible without the carbon fiber wheels was faster than the GT3 RS??? so the Z06 coupe with the carbon fiber wheels would be at least a second faster since it is lighter than the convertible and the carbon wheels are much better
It was never mentioned in the video, but it's noteworthy the C8Z was a hardtop convertible which is ~125lbs heavier than the coupe.
In this video they had the HTC? How do you know?
@@1uckedoutlook at a photo of the two and you will see the difference. You can't see the engine with the convertible, it only has a small rear window, among other details
Not only that, this Z06 is not equipped with carbon fiber wheels. I'm sure a Z06 - Z07 coupe with the carbon wheels would be at least half a second faster
Yep, first thing I noticed! It's the heavier convertible and it doesn't have the carbon fiber wheels that shave 40+lbs of unsprung weight.
@@Luke-cb3ly Seems a little weird to not even mention that. When you have a car competing with the top of the leader board you shouldn't give it a handicap like that without saying anything to your viewers.
I think Thomas is getting better at his own track as time goes on.
The scientific thing to do would be to run a “calibration standard” car (something generic that they’d keep indefinitely) on every test day to account for changes in driver skill and ambient conditions. If they did that, they could even apply a correction factor to the test car to standardize all the results.
I’ve been watching for years. You consistently put out top notch content. Great job guys!
What a superb video this was, can't get enough of your content. Love the cinematography and the sound, congrats to everyone in the post production crew!
Z06 beaten 911 GT3 RS LAP TIME!!! LETS GOOOO!!!!
It is plus 160ish hp.
@@echutch Track looks super tight and not a long straight aways. Benefit of crazy aero is probably more important than pure straight line performance
Pretty much the same time and 160 bhp more just shows how good the chassis is in the gt3.
@@lloyd.8272 costing 2 times more
@@echutchnobody told pors he they couldn't get 160hp more too
Sliding and drifting the rear is not the fastest way around a corner, unless you're driving an old school air cooled 911. Fun, yes - fast, no. The Emira is made for neutral handling, not drifting. You need your M2 for that, or perhaps install Pilot Sport 4S tires on the rear only. Great video once again guys!
Was not expecting the vette to beat the gt3 rs!! Chevy for the win!!!
Another fantastic video all around, thank you gentlemen, really lifted my spirits up after hurricane Beryl.
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I knew the Z06 would probably beat the C7 ZR1 and the base 992 GT3, but I would've never expected a convertible Z06 on the aluminum wheels to beat a GT3 RS on any track. I'm sure there are even more tenths to shave off with the carbon fiber wheels and the coupe taking off another 150 lbs.
High track temps make a big difference, the GT3 RS is undoubtedly faster on the same day. They could've proven that by driving them back to back.
@@hummingbird9149 You probably aren't wrong, but again, adding the carbon wheels and switching to the coupe would shave off more time. Even being close to the GT3RS is a win at half the price.
@@rwilson4073 I mean it has 150+ more horsepower than the GT3, and some very big grippy tires, so Im not surprised its fast. But on most race tracks the GT3 RS is going to be faster (regular GT3 as well, if they're very twisty), due simply to how much faster it can go through corners and how much later it can brake before them. Hagerty did a racetrack (willow springs) comparison with a real racing driver, and despite some long straights, the GT3 RS still beat the Z06 by half a sec.
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The idea of a mid-engined car is to go around the corner as fast as possible. Getting the back end to come around under throttle is a flaw in my opinion. Not sure why all these UA-camrs nowadays think if a car doesn’t power-steer the rear out it’s considered a bad thing. That being said these are the two best car reviewers on the planet. Again, in my opinion.
They certainly are two of the best reviewers, and very enjoyable to watch. You are also right about losing traction. There isn't any quicker way to lose time than to lose traction. A Lotus is a momentum car, and the key to that is to NOT kick the tail out or slide around, and it's setup to not do that. That doesn't look dramatic however. It looks much more dramatic to slide around with lots of tire smoke because it LOOKS like you're going really fast when you do that, even though you're doing the exact opposite; you're actually slowing down.
I’m a grip & rip guy myself. Just ruin tires & suspension parts trying to slide. This was the 1 flaw that Top Gear started
understeer is a flaw too though and will make you go slower round a corner than if the car would rotate the right amount.
Am I wrong but aint it the same thing with Porsche? Like you are not supposed to drift them right?
It's probably just his perseronal preference. Understeering is a horrible feeling.
the size of that V6 + being supercharged. god damn it’s underpowered
Since its a production car its always going to be running with vert safe margins, rather than having crazy amounts of boost and revs.
@@lorddoobsworth144 hardly an excuse when many production cars safely have way more power with either a similar displacement engine or a much smaller one. look at the AMG 2L engine as an example, or the Alfa V6
@@hamdanali2036 Yes but those engines are turbo vs NA, which some people are not into due to the difference in sound and worse throttle response. Some people prefer them, just depends on your taste i guess :). Quite often these 'smaller' engines are physically bigger and heavier than something like an LS/LT engine too.
@@lorddoobsworth144 my point is, with 400hp, an N/A V6 could’ve done that. with it being a turbo, it’s just very underpowered
@@hamdanali2036 Not a turbo. Supercharged. The Emira is light by today's standards. And it pulls nice and even throughout the rev range. It's plenty fast. It's just not Z06 fast.
Love the shout out to Todd @EverydayDriver! As a die hard manual, analog kind of car guy, I still cannot help but want the Z06. What the GT3RS cannot do is drop it’s top and become a comfortable cruiser with the touch of a button.
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I wish they would got a regular C8 instead, to compare with the Emira.
Agreed: it's an apple to oranges comparison in trims and price.
@@davidturgeon2087not really the c8 base can be had for 70k or less now.
They should make a track version of the emira with a wing and stuff, would be awesome 😃
yeah like any lightweight sportscar/supercar that is somehow track focused. I can't see how they wouldn't make a more extreme version of this car on ceramic brakes, some lighter bits of carbon, more aero and stiffer/lower suspension. it well sell at a highe price and it's an easy way to get more attention from media/social media.
They have! But not road legal…
The real track version, is called Evorora gt430/410. Higer redline, less weight, more analog and for the gt410 less understeer.
I can tell you why, the new Chinese owners are not interested in the Lotus philosophy only in it for the name & battery tech moving forward for speed@geemy9675