Lmaoooo was told the same thing...told them I was the smartest person in the unit by far and walked out. Left as an E-4 and was making 20 year captains pay within 3 years...never looked back...
When command says you’ll never make it in the real world... that’s the biggest disrespect they can give to a soldier. You sacrifice everything for your country, and the moment you want your reward which is to live a normal life upon leaving the service, they want to shit on all that by saying you’ll come crawling back? Phuck that. When you get out, live well. Move onto the next chapter in your bucket list of things to do in life. Don’t give command the satisfaction of you “crawling back”. That’s very rude. The last people you’d expect to disrespect your nation’s warriors are their own command. The greater the sacrifice the more respect is due. Like the old saying, “A bad king is feared or resented by his subjects. But a good king is loved and respected by his subjects.” Command aught to learn from that. Nah Phuck that “one more year” stuff the very first time. I want my reward aka a normal life whether you like it or not. Not signing a reenlistment. Tell President DT to forcibly shift our focus to renewable energy sources so that we’ll have no more need to stay in the Middle East anymore to protect oil assets.
I was in the NG with a guy who didn't know about ETS dates. When we explained, he claimed his should have been 3 years before. Turned out, someone was signing 1 year extensions for him.
I know this isn't nearly as bad as this story but when my buddy and I were processing out in San Diego, he was still in the process of getting out a few days before his ID expired and the gate guard took it. Couldn't eat at the chow hall, use the gym, legally get on base, all while being held at our prison of a barracks waiting on paperwork to go through. We joked that he could finally say he was a POW.
Unless his entire contract was up (including the years you do as a civilian, but still in IRR, that mp shouldn't have taken his ID. By UCMJ, you are suppose to keep everything, especially your ID until you are officially out. I still have mine, even though I eased in 2017, but still in the IRR unit June of next year. That mp was probably a boot lol.
Mixed-Rebel That’s a big negative. MP’s are required to take your ID and you have to go get a new one the next working day. It’s normal and happens all the time. Military Police and your CO can actually confiscate your ID. This talk that only CO’s can is absolutely wrong. Also, if he can go get his orders he will be able to enter and leave post, eat at the dfac etc.
My wife, a civilian contractor, has had to travel miles each way at Gov't expense to appear at the same Pentagon office some 14 times in 5 years -- that's right, almost once every THREE MONTHS -- to have re-issued the CAC card she needs to access a client's computer system. The CAC office was always packed, and they never had any of her previous records (had to bring them anew each time, which required a wet-ink signature by a senior Gov't supervisor). It was a self-licking ice cream cone (sinecure) for the staff there, who were none too efficient. She lost half a day of productivity, at $$$ per hour her company charged to the government, in the process. Computer security is important, but the military shoots itself in the foot with certain procedures.
I reenlisted 4 times. Every time I asked for just one thing. I wanted to ride in a helicopter. That's it, nothing big, nothing extraordinary. They promised, I signed. Well, 13 years later and 4 lying commanders later, no helicopter ride. Three days after my ETS, the 1SG Cardoza called me at home at 0600 hours hollering because I was not at PT. I was still cussing at his stupid ass when he hung up the phone.
@@SeansModelBuilds there's waivers for that. Buddy and I each got an F-15E incentive flight. He's 6'7", too tall for ejection. They just made him sign a waiver acknowledging he'd likely die if they had to eject.
My retention NCO got really legitimately angry when I told her I wasn’t going to sign to re enlist or even extend and told me “I FIST BUMPED YOU!” As if it was a logical argument to keep me in
Now that I know how they can shaft you I'll be asking for a different contract from my recruiter. He had me thinking that I could switch my MOS pretty easily. Now that I know that's a lie I'm gonna change it up.
@@92powerdiesel61 Unless someone is in a desperate situation and joining the military is their only option in life you should always play it my way or no way when joining. There are plenty of current and former members of the military who are making videos telling everyone that if it's not in your contract you are f'cked 99.9% of the time so why join if you are going to get f'cked. No one should want to start their military service off getting f'cked right out of the gate and then possibly having something like this happen at the end. Unless you are truly desperate don't join or re-up if what they are offering you is lies and/or garbage. If they have nothing to offer you then you should tell them to find another desperate sucker.
@@845835 Yeah, I had wanted to go infantry for a 3 year contract then switch to helicopter mechanic. But if its this hard to make the switch I don't want it. If it's possible I'd still like the opportunity but this video and all the comments are making me scared to do it.
@@92powerdiesel61 What videos like this and the people who make them teach you is when all is said and done it does not matter what branch of the military someone decides to join they will always give you what they need versus what you want. For most people looking to join the military there is no reason to do so based upon maybes and outright lies. Handshakes and trust me ain't worth $h!t.
Total effing a$$ hole in my unit. Did not take the bait when he refuse me a new MOS that needed people. Went Guard with a new MOS and new skills, and a civilian job that keeps paying me while deployed... notwithstanding GI bill around the corner too. So glad this idiot plaid hardball and obliged me to leave.
I've got a better one for you. Guy I know was indefinitely extended and it lasted two years. What makes matters worse is that when came back state side, some people in the unit he was in did some stupid shit, in uniform, in town, that effected civilians. His entire unit was restricted from leaving base, and we're assigned extra responsibilities. One of his responsibilities caused him to always show up last at chow, which means he got last pickings. Some of the people who prepped the food during those two years, were later on severely disciplined for beyond improper and inappropriate food prep. So he was getting the last of the worst, and was restricted from leaving and going to some dumpster in town to pick up better food.
@@TheAngryman1967 imagine getting the sh**s on a regular basis, and you're already the one who has extra Lolly duty, to clean the bathrooms that you, and others, are taking care of your SEVERE business (🤮🤢💩) in. You know it's bad when you were getting better food at a semi-remote base in Iraq. The reason it took so long to fix is because the investigation took a long time, because everyone thought it was a problem with the supplier or source, when in reality, the guys in the kitchen were lazy disgusting f***s. To throw salt on the wound, the officers' chow was run just fine by some hard working seasoned cooks, and was overseen by a guy who graduated from culinary school a year before he enlisted. The good news is that the brass did care about their enlisted troops, and when it came out that it was actually the ones in uniform who made the food, they went ape s**t. All of them went before a disciplinary committee, a few of which had everything in the UCMJ thrown at them, landing them in Court Marshall.
Man, this is so spot on. I was marines infantry, and I remember my bonus they offered me the first time was $32,000 when I was in Iraq (which would have made it tax free),but I hadn't even been in for 2 years yet and kept thinking 6 more years?!? There were guys a rank higher than me getting up to $64,000 + gaining a rank to stay in, and I declined because I just didn't want to commit to another 4 years. In the time between the next time they approached me I had got promoted and had went to some very high level in demand schools. However, the next time around when the conversation came up I got offered just over $3,000 to stay in. Every single senior guy in my platoon (like 24 of us) all got out.
@@blyatman7244 You see a surge in numbers when a conflict is coming. At one point they said they were getting rid of all of the cooks as an MOS. They wanted those spots for trigger-pullers. They never went through with it.
Wait... They're offering 3,000$ to stay in, but how much do you get per month for being there? I've heard that you get like 2k per month or is that not true?
Yes, please tell us because I want to know if they're still in the military or got out or if it was you. Or somebody, you know. Don't leave us hanging. You got to tell us.
At least it’s good money, I’m down all day and less strict, buddy of mine in AF went that route and he makes lawyer pay owns two houses and a boat so doesn’t seem too bad haha
The thing is, you know any time you sign on the dotted line they can come up to you at some point and tell you that THEY (Uncle Sam) have decided the country really needs you, so your enlistment has been extended for however long they want you. They make that quite clear to anyone and everyone who enlists, and then they get reminded of it occasionally over time. But there are ways to do that without screwing people.
@@TedBronson1918 In 17 years I will have reached the Compulsory Retirement Age of 60. The military cannot keep me in after that unless they raise the CRA again.
@@SeansModelBuilds Good luck to you if you want to stay in. You know how the military is though, always making room at the top for promotions. Most enlisted people have already retired at your age or near it - by 50. If I can offer you some advice - start looking at civilian jobs you can apply your military skills to. I used to perform retirement parades every month. It seemed that some people who were "All Army" and never considered working post-retirement died off relatively soon after in many cases and I found myself rendering their funeral honors too. I'd hate for you to be in that situation. I'm just saying your military retirement is secure now, so you can feel free to think of/plan for a 2nd civilian retirement if you want to, and not suddenly find yourself with a loss of purpose. Anyway, Good Luck !
Its depressing and scary how much I relate to this shit..... yes ppl, shit like this actually happens, whether you did or DIDNT do something, until everything can be investigated. But funny video bro!
You realize how much you are loved when CID gives you a ring and start asking questions about the clinic you are being treated at. I guess I was stupid enough to assume that being a solider in "Headquarters Company" my command would know that I needed treatment after getting whacked since we where all there when it happened! 😳
@@elliottroca Investigating ALLEGATIONS that didnt come up until you are already on TERMINAL leave.... DAYS away from ETSing and then getting recalled back and involuntarily extended just so they can take their SWEET MOTHAFUCKING TIME to go through everything. Just to finally get told, "ok you are good, you didnt do anything wrong" and then allowed to be discharged. The army LOVES fucking you and doesn't give a shit about anything. It's all politics and you are just a number at the end of the day. Other then that, stay positive and resilient lol👍🏽
@Slappy Thastick I served at USAG Bamberg in Germany 2008-2010 under 16th SB. One of the other major units on post was the 173rd Airborne Brigade. They say that they are the only Airborne unit in the Army to have made a combat jump into IRQ or AFG. One or the other. I can't remember
@@mr.nobody68 173rd was actually the 4th Battalion of 325th A.I.R aka Golden Falcons. 325th is the only Airborne Infantry Regiment. The rest are P.I.R.'s Paratrooper Infantry Regiment. 173rd did jump into Iraq into a secure DZ far away from any fighting with SF and Kurdish troops wondering what they were doing since their flight was all of 10 mins and was mostly a publicity stunt with no direct contact of any nature and why last time I checked was being rescinded as a combat jump.
My command was PISSED when I ETSed. Protip: Telling your sailor (or soldier, or marine, or whatever) that they'll never make it in the real world and that they were a traitor to their country if they don't sign the dotted line doesn't encourage people to re-up. Especially when they've had a million different excuses why they couldn't send you to TAPS classes or why they've just been sitting on your ETS paperwork and refusing to do anything with it. Or when they call up to the barracks NCO and tell him to make your life hell trying to check out. Yes, all this is a true story, and unlike certain people in my command the barracks chief wasn't a raging assclown so he told me about the "special request" he had gotten.
When I went active duty, my first assignment was Ft. Bliss by God Cavalry. A month on station and I deployed to the main force of the Regiment. One tiny problem, the rear detachment forgot to send my security clearance.... so for 4 months I was on one of two details KP or Crap Burning...... A few days after the ground war ended and we were returning to Saudi Arabia, my 1SG approached me and said "GREAT NEWS PFC, we just received your security clearance and you are good to go." I found out later that the file had been sitting on the S-2's desk since the month prior to my arrival to Texas.
Seriously fuck S2 and S3, Battalion and Brigade level. They never push paperwork through in a timely manner, and they don't give a fuck about people unless you work at HQ/State and you're willing to kiss ass and work your knees out. If the paperwork side of it all would actually work efficiently, you wouldn't have as many issues as there are(personal experience), and people would probably stay in. But due to poor leadership and only promoting those that look good on paper(and people not able to do their jobs correctly in HQ)versus their merit and ability to be an effective leader, people want to get the fuck out.
Haha I know someone who purchased a Shelby for around 80k after 6 years he hasn't finish paying it yup most people that join the military get nice cars that they cant afford and never get to drive. I purchased my truck for 4k paid all in cash when I got out of the military.
Worst thing I've seen happen to a veteran!!! 10 years after being med board out, his local police came to his job, arrested him, put him on a plane in handcuffs, flew him to a military base thousands on miles away, locked him in the barracks and after all that did they finally tell him that was because he was marked awol. He didn't even know why he was being arrested or flown to another state until they put him in barracks lock down. The Post General, BC, CSM, 1SG, and Company commander all agreed to keep him on lock down until he could be out processed. 1 month later they threw a uniform at him with a Spc rank because the only paper work they could find in records and the Pentagon is that he was promoted to a specialist. 2 months later he snuck off base where a limo with his states congresswoman was waiting for him. It took a literal act of Congress to get him back to his state. And all this was because his ets came before he could finish his med board process so the med board NCO was suppose to finish it but didn't.
@@andresherrera2902 go airforce, less likely. Go army if you strong enough to put up with some BS, I haven't had terrible things done to me yet but if your looking for safety just go airforce. Army can kinda be high risk high rewards, went on a deployment and just did as much schools as I could and now I'm making 5k a month provided since the army paid for my schools and certification. Not a grunt is something I should also mention.
@@Handler217 this dudes talking out his ass. doesn't matter which branch you go to. I was in the air force and people got fucked over like crazy. Only thing I can say is if you are smarter than a bag of rocks don't go army or marines.
@@Handler217😢 amen I was separated straight out of S Korea with a diagnosis of intellectual disability after completing ASAP and multiple Neuro psych tests. 7 years later today I’m finally realizing the reason all my pay was held from me. Someone noted conditions, not a disability. I should have been contacted arba
1 min in and this is already too relatable. I was SPC when my initial 3 was coming up on ETS, My 1SG was so nice to me I thought he was drunk or something, but he wanted to pad my ego with thoughts of "Just reup and you'll be a Seargent" He underestimated my memory of how I was treated when they didn't need me to make quota.
Best advice I ever received was when you’re flagged, or part of any CID investigation (whether primary suspect, witness or accessory), to go to the JAG office closest to you and retain the lawyer. You don’t want to be the last person out there trying to get a lawyer. Your ass will be traveling hours away to whatever post has an available jag lawyer that hasn’t been retained by the other Soldiers related to your case.
It reminds me of my separation interview. I got called in to speak with the XO. Had no idea what the subject was, but I was short so no real surprise there. The LT gave me the speech (they must have to memorize it in OCS) while I sat there like a good soldier. After he finished, I told him - "Lt., I'll sign a contract for 20 years right now. Just want a couple of minor items. 1) Direct Commission as a Lt. Col. and 2) a 3 year MAC assignment to London". He just sat there for a few seconds, kind of stunned like before telling me to get out. Based on what I am reading here, I guess I was kind of lucky not to have gotten in trouble for letting my mouth write that check. But that was back in 1968. I'm sure things are a whole lot different now! P.S. I didn't get the commission or the assignment, but I did get to go home.
Why would you have gotten in trouble for stating what you wanted? Did you disrespect him? Not really. If I was your LT I would have given you a path on how to become a Lt. Col and provided the resources, etc, make sure your NCO's were tracking that we would be sending you to school, etc. Hands outs are never worth it in the long run.
@@Nperez1986 my guess would have pissed them off and due to the rank difference could make up bs. But I wouldn't know merely a guess and hello 2 year old comment.
Sounds like the 10th mnt div. They pulled a fast one in 08. Needed more people to deploy for 09. Emptied out med board units. Sent soldiers back to home unit. Then stoplossed/ med hold on all soldiers. It was some creative fuckery from the green weenie. Ah big army put so much effort into sticking it in our hiney holes. They just didn't realize the power of the dark side. One of the guys in my unit was a speech writer for a senator and I still had my "phone a friend" option on the table. 24 hours later. Im woken up by my squad leader. Wanting to know why the whole command group had to go down to division. To read the letter that was hand written by sec state and flown to drum, asking about the assfuckery that the army was trying to pull. It was glorious.
We had stoploss for half the time I was at Drum in the 90s. Got me out of Korea the first time those orders came up. Second time I got out of it because I had a major ortho surgery three days before my report date. The surgeon pulled the orders. But I was too fucked up post-recovery and my ETS was literally right around the corner, so they skipped a med board and just let the clock run out on me. I had most of the summer of 2000 paid for by terminal leave, so that was nice. DNW!
In the Army Reserve, after 8 years, they tried to get me to stay as they badly needed experienced NCO's, but this was in mid-2001. I handed them a stack of over 200 pages that I asked them to send up the chain of command showing evidence of how dangerous the Anthrax vaccine at that time was and how many soldiers, airmen, marines, and sailors had their health ruined by it, along with evidence of systematic suppression of VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) forms, systemic lies about the vaccine, conflicts of interest (former Joint Chief of Staff Vice Admiral Crowe was the Chairman of Bioport, the company that made the vaccine at the time), and countless other issues such as the fact that the program was a violation of the the Nuremberg Codes that we signed after WWII that banned testing drugs on soldiers. To be honest I really wanted to stay as I loved being an NCO and I loved the Army even if it was just the Reserves. My unit was like my second family. But the military treats you like government property and I was not going to be some damn guinea pig to have vaccines and shit tested on me. Once you sign that dotted line, they own you. But I didn't and got out in June 2001. After 9-11 as the buildup for the war in Iraq was going on, they sent me a letter saying I was to report back to duty at my old unit otherwise face arrest. I promptly ignored the letter as I was long past my IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve). I was still amazed that the actually tried to trick me with bullshit like that to get me back in.
A soldier at my work came down with ALS, he said service members are 10% more likely to get it vs civilians. First thing in my mind was the smallpox or anthrax vaccines.
@@michaelegotti6439 It's really hard to sue the military. So I'm quite sure things like this are still going on. Last I heard they had a new version of the Anthrax vaccine under development and ready to be used on soldiers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax_Vaccine_Immunization_Program
Yep. I'm VA rated for hypothyroid. Anthrax vaccination in 2005. I had voluntarily denied it prior to deployment, was ordered to take it upon landing in the desert. Turns out a lot of peoples' immune systems went fucking haywire after the Anthrax vaccination.
Sounds like a guy in my old unit callsign old blue... He was 42 and looked 80... Nobody knew why he was still in or when he would get out. Hooah o'll blue!
They try to pull this shit on you even if you aren't under investigation lol! I was in the Army active duty,spent 4 years in as a Cavalry Scout. Just got to my second duty staion (Ft. Knox) after leaving Germany and coming back from deployment. When I got there my chain of command started putting me in charge of field missions as an E-4 and promising to promote me to E-5. A year goes by with good counseling statements,I'm actually in a E-5 slot with my own soldiers I'm in charge of as Squad leader (still as senior E-4 of the platoon) and I'm sent to the Soldier of the Month board as "prep for the E-5 board". Took first place on the board up to Squadron lvl and fourth place in Regiment lvl. They kept saying we're going to promote you,we promise. 3 months away from my ETS date I'm sent to see the retention NCO(on my first re-enlistment),my offer was choice of 4 shitty duty stations one of which was being deployed where I was just deployed at before, one was my old duty station I just came from who were getting ready to deploy to Iraq,staying at Ft. Knox for another 18 months or going to Korea. No schools were offered,no re-enlisting bonus and you guessed it, I would have to wait until I got to my next duty station to get promoted because I was too short on time now. I said no thanks,I'll just ETS. I've heard the horror stories about people falling for that crap and I'm not falling for it,especially without a decent bonus. 3 months later while on terminal leave on my last day,they held my final platoon formation in the motor pool. I walked through the formation shaking the hands of soldiers I liked saying my goodbyes and flipped off the ones I didn't like telling them to go fuck yourself. Our Platoon Sgt. was a shitbag who I'm pretty sure stole a bunch of TA-50 after he told the EM's that they could stow their gear In the work closet after a field mission for the weekend which I advised was against our policy orders and they shouldn't do it because someone could steal it and they'd be responsible for it,and surprise surprise, it came up missing after the work closet was broken into that weekend. (Our platoon was the only ones who knew it was there) I saved the Platoon Sgt. for the last person to flip off as he tried to shake my hand (he thought it was funny I was doing that until it was his turn lol) and I told him he could go fuck himself for being a p.o.s and for lying to me about the promotion as well as stealing from EM's he was supposed to be taking care of. He went on saying that he was going to give me a article 15 and delay my ETS date and have me on 30 days of extra duty and bust me to E-1 and take my pay. I turned around and flipped him off again as I walked away and said good luck filing that paperwork and getting it pushed through before tomorrow asshole and laughed all the way out of the motor pool to my car and drove off as he kept shouting get back here and drop mother fucker. Never did see that article 15 and left state the very next day.
@@justanaverageguy7293 thanks bro but I'm no hero, was just fed up with the bullshit and knew how to be technically and tactically proficient with some testicular fortitude. Good luck with your ETS and future endeavors bud! Make sure you get all medical stuff documented before you get out and that your awards and paperwork including your DD 214 are correct and accurate and fight fir everything you can get compensation for once out,you earned that shit and deserve it. And take care of yourself and just take things one day at a time when you get out. It's a big adjustment to the civilian sector that takes time getting used to again,but when we have a bad day there's always tomorrow. Don't ever give up!
@@richmtnrecon9120 for sure man, the only thing I worry about is these horror stories of guys getting put under investigation for no reason? Not sure what thats all about you have any input by any chance?
@@justanaverageguy7293 usually if someone is put under investigation it's for a reason that usually the chain of command is trying to keep quiet about because either they don't have proof,it's false accusations or they want to get proof. I've seen soldiers go under investigation for no reason and it was because the accusations were false. They'll also try to keep it quiet to build a case against the soldier and get all the facts beforehand. I've seen soldiers report stuff on other soldiers just to give them shit and harrass them and I've also been stuck in the middle of that before too having to watch soldiers get in trouble for doing stupid stuff like dealing drugs while I was on QRF duty,not fun stuff. Same guy I was hanging out with in our sister platoon when he got his dui went under investigation and we busted him on QRF with a pound of weed sitting in his barracks bathroom out in the open. His roommate wasn't doing anything but got put under investigation just in case. All depends on the soldiers and the chain of command to be honest as well as the situation as to what is going on and how it's handled. Sometimes it boils down to chain of command being shitty and messing with people but that's not a norm.
@@richmtnrecon9120 ok thanks for that, im a pretty squared away guy, just doing my time and keeping my head low ya know? Never got in trouble before (nothing crazy I have been late once or twice to formation) just hoping for a clean ETS.
Always have an alibi. They tried that with me, had witnesses and everything saying I was at the scene of the crime. My internet search history said otherwise. Now I don't think I need to go over what was in my search history, but the time and IP location proved my alibi.
I knew a guy who was a witness in a CID/IG investigation while he was going through training in a TRADOC unit. They held him there for seven years when I'd met him. I came and went and at eleven years they finally finished their investigation. He put in 11 years as a "trainee", luckily they waived the rest of his contract and allowed him to take a retirement since he had a decade under his belt before that happened.
@@nevileasterling648 He finished his training, but they wouldn't let him leave. If I remember correctly they froze his MOS and wouldn't give him his specialty as well (152A pilot with no specialty meant no aircraft training which wasn't correct). So he stayed there acting both as a trainee in holdover and doing admin work while he waited year after year. He got a scheduled promotion but they wouldn't let him go higher - so he was locked in as a W2 when he should have been a W3 on the brink of W4.
I knew a trooper at Sill that went through the same. And he was only E3 and said he has been there 5 years. That's crazy finger popping shot right there.
Wes Takahashi the Army would only do that if they urgently needed warm bodies or if they needed the respective MOS, the Army is a business... which is why soldiers get treated like garbage.
That's why when my ETS Date got close I listened to what some people call your first mind. I bounced up out of there with the quickness. Another soldier that I served with wasn't so lucky he reenlisted and got busted down a rank a month later. Man FTS!
This reminds me of my involuntary extension. I was 3 days from ETS. Three whole motherfreak'n months later I got my orders, my unit was set to mobilize in a few days, effective ETS was 2036. What got me more than anything was I was E5P at the time but now can't be promoted because I was under involuntary extension.
@Wes Takahashi I was Air Force. It's like every other job, but you have to test to rank up and make better pay. You really don't make much staying in the dorms, but the chow hall is free.
@DK88 34 lol I drive a rig and grossed double of what you contracted for 3 years in 6 months. Fuck I know OTR driving is pretty dangerous but I'd be pissed if I was in the military making bs pay. Forget the free chow hall, food doesn't rack up that much unless we drivers eat out all the time.
In 71 I was stationed in Saigon, really easy sweet duty, I was offered promotion to E 6 if I stayed 6 more months, nothing extra. Decided it was best to head home immediately than to stay an additional 6 months only to be murdered by my wife upon my return home. Didn’t care much for the Army but they did teach me to cook which proved quite helpful in finding in employment.
@@rossjones5741 it's a phrase. My wife(or girlfriend, etc) is gonna kill me refers to they been expecting you and if you didn't come back then boy are they gonna be made hense "murdered or killed" oh and hello 2 year old comment
The accuracy is unparalleled. The bonus , the extension, the investigation, the other investigation, the deployment, the tears , the depression............ oh yea and the VA not giving a damn.... throw that in there. .
I went Guard and worked for Johnson&Johnson who keep paying while I deploy. So much better. Get to have double pay and double retirement if I bomb the units with volunteer slots. Others got GS12-13 federal tech pay making 100+k as E5 equivalent working for Guard units full time. Fck these mofos, they would not even let me get another MOS. I’m like, you all crazy, my unit is not my plantation, this is the Federal government, yo, I can switch. JnJ is hiring like crazy in Florida.
Saw the Army lose a great soldier all because they refused him a reclass. Kid had done everything and more you could ask of a soldier. Went to high level enlisted boards and won. Asked to reclass.... Army said no He got out. If anyone deserved a waiver or exemption to policy it was him
Same I asked to reclass from fuel they give me excuses of no training available I said fine want to play games ok I’ll get out go be a police officer in my town Enjoy getting in new soldiers and your trip to Poland 😂
Why would anyone enlist when they can arbitrarily say you're "being investigated indefinitely" and functionally tear up your contract? If they cannot make a firm contract with you up front, then there's no point in joining.
Because as a previous poster stated, go immediately to the JAG office, get a lawyer and make them put up or shut up. They aren't going to arbitrarily do this to people. Even if they did a mediocre lawyer can demand to see the documents and make their life a living nightmare all to keep on 1 soldier in...not gonna happen unless there is something there.
I re-enlisted with the promise of going back on jump status after six months. I ended up staying in a "leg" unit for three years. I was a pissed off E-4 the whole time. I even went to Air Assault school, just to take a break from the fucking motor pool. And, yeah, I wore the same patch they wear in this video. Been watching your vids for quite a while and love them. Keep them coming.
This type of BS happens all the time in the service. Thank you to everyone that served to fight for your country. The army is like one big frat. There is all kinds of fun stuff most have to go through but never knew about or agreed to. It’s not the place for idealistic people for sure. I count those years as both the best and worst times in my life and this is looking back 20 years plus.
They Stop lossone of the Army females from retiring then sent her to Afghanistan. She came in and sat down. Didn't do nothing finally sent her home in a month.
Chaplains are a joke. Had a serious personal issue that I needed some advice solving, went to the chaplain because it's a private way to talk with someone(supposed to be anyway). Shit you not, next day at work people were flicking me shit about my problem and since I literally told no one but the chaplain, that means he flapped his fucking gums and spilled my personal bussiness, went to my commander to see if something could be done and got told "he's the chaplain, good luck getting anyone to back you on that." Never had anything but contempt for them after that.
Tristan Wolff true, that can happen, however assistants are also under the same confidentiality oath. So in Kong’s case the investigation should be warranted immediately. The complain to IG can be filed anonymously as well, if he fears retaliation. Just trying to help.
@@olgav4271 I told my chaplain i didnt think my third kid was mine and that shit got out before id even left the office. That 40 year old specialist got the brakes beat off him once I found him. Fuck IG, that message went through and he had to eat that crow or face court martial.
Depends on the Chaplin, on my first deployments our Chaplin was a great guy who went to bat for our soldiers, on my second deployment our Chaplin (maybe the assistant) ratted all of us out to our command.
I served from 09-16. My cousin, who was a medic, served from 96 to 05. Here's the rub, he was stop lossed from 01 to 05. The Army wrote him a check for +30k and wrote a formal apology.
Something like this happened to me. Couple things different in my case though. 1) I didn't want out. 2) I was on medical hold. Ended up staying 21 months past my end of contract. Like I said, I wanted to stay in. I was planning on doing at least 20 anyway. They wouldn't let me reenlist. They wouldn't let me extend. And they wouldn't let me out. We all knew from the beginning I was never going to be fit for duty again (shattered left leg) so I lined up a good job for when I got out. By the time they let me go that job offer was gone. On the bright side, they ended up giving me a full retirement + disability. They are going to be paying me for the rest of my life so I can't bitch too much.
@@toxin1882 now? 51. Then? HOLYOHBATSTIT! This is a bad ass fuckin bike! How much am I getting?I'll tell you when free people don't wear a diaper on their face
When i was in the National Guard and near the end of my contract. i was offered a promotion to SGT, A deployment, and a 4,000 re-enlistment bonus. Sounds like a good deal right? Well instead of taking the offer, I basically transferred over to the Air Force Reserves and after spending some Drill nights In some Hotels and lodges...I absolutely did not regret my decision lol
@@HateTheIRS I put it this way: at one point in time I was considered to be a "essential personnel", so they probably need someone to fill a open slot regarding such without having to wait for someone to make rank. I'm pretty sure I wasn't there first choice though.
Forty eight years ago I was an E-4 wearing E-5 rank (Acting Sergeant) holding down an E-6 slot. And they had the audacity to tell me I wasn't going to be board eligible for years although I could re-enlist to continue to lead a rifle squad and fix problems around XVIII Airborne Corps...I left to become a homeless civilian. That at least was my choice.
I finished ROTC with a "Guaranteed Reserve Contract" which had a clause that said something like, "I acknowledge that I may be required to go on active duty for training purposes." I asked, "What does that mean?" "Oh that means that after Officer Basic you might want to and get to go to Airborne or Ranger School." I went on active duty voluntarily and in my platoon in officer basic were three guys that had signed identical "Guaranteed Reserve Contracts" and were told around commissioning, "CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! You have been selected for a three year active duty for training tour!" So after 4 months of officer basic they went on to complete their remainder of their three year tour in a troop unit. The Army where guaranteed doesn't mean guaranteed and contracts are flexible on one party!
This video is how i felt when i was medically discharged shortly after returning home from iraq with 18 years service under my belt and then denied every time i tried to reenlist because doctors said my ptsd was to bad. Oh did i mention the 10% off px coupon they offered as a reenlistment bonus while deployed?
This is one of the reasons I got out. I only had a 2 year enlistment, but saw so many guys with 8 and 12 years in bodies broken and being medically discharged with crap medical discharges like 20 & 30 percent. I was like, how are those guys going to live on 30%? What kind of civilian jobs are they going to find when they can’t even walk upright or pain free. Did not want that to happen to me so I pulled the rip cord.
@@nathangallegos9304 I think what he ment is once your a soldier you don't truly ever stop being one. Sure you may hate how it functions but being a soldier is engraved in your mind to the end.
Myrtles: You're not getting out. You're being investigated by CID. Drew: What the f@&k!? Me: I got an appointment with them later. I wonder how long it'll take for *your* name to come up, Myrtles. 😈
My father was told they didn't have anyone to replace him and until they did he would be kept in. It took several congressmen and so on to get him out.
@Alexander I was wounded and medically retired. Might be better if you just told people thank for you service verses questioning their length. There's lots of factors, some uncontrollable for why people don't do 20. Some people just burn out. It's not the easiest lifestyle mentally, physically or relationship wise.
Alright, I didn't watch the entire video but this comment got my attention. I just played the tale end of the video. My spouse said it 's no wonder you wife wanted proof. We trade WTF videos segments with each other all the time. It also just proves I got lucky when the army doc declared me 4F in Pittsburg. The recruiter was pissed because I had aced the electronics part of the test. The recruiter wanted to run me over to an induction center in Ohio.
I never smiled Soo much when I talked to retention on my way out. I was in Korea for that meeting and the guy on camp was a reserve master Sgt. He asked if I wanted to stay...I laughed...then we talked about Tennessee since we were both from there. All in all a good day. Ten years was enough for me.
True story. In 1990, I was an E-6 in the U.S. Navy and deployed to Operation Desert Shield. Within weeks that became Operation Desert Storm. As Desert Storm kicked off, it was announced that anyone who had their enlistment contract ending in the next 90 days had two choices. The first was to rotate home and be discharged or remain “for the duration of the conflict.” They had NO idea how long the war might last. And my hitch was end in a month. I was a 16 year veteran but I was on the next helicopter off that fucking ship. And I have never regretted that decision.
Wow, we share similar experiences during my re-enlistment but I actually left. No bonuses, no schools, no duty station of choice (I actually volunteered to go with a unit that was deploying). I got recalled during the surge for 15 months and the NG unit that I was attached to tried to stop loss me for another 6 months without telling me. I called JAG right away and everyone allowed me to finally ETS with no issues. Talk about trying to serve your Country while being backstabbed the whole time.
Happened to a friend. He kicked in the captain's office door, fired up a joint, pissed on the commander's desk, said, "Test that, bitch!" Then waited patiently for the MP's. He made it home 3 days early.
So true... My 1SG told me I'd make a good NCO when I was in Afghanistan, everyday for a whole month he ask me if I wNted to reenlist and I'd get a bonus, didn't even how much the bonus was because I was fed up with my unit, I even extended for 5 months to stay in the hit zone and yes $500 a month extra on top all of my pay was not worth it.
I made staff Sgt USAF 8 months before I was due to get out told I couldn’t cross train no real re-enlistment bonus could not extend another year. I was told to and I quote “shit or get off the pot.” I got off the pot. Made the window before stoploss right before 9-11. Friend of mine had 3 month of leave saved up I had 1 month, he got stoplossed one month after I left. He was in for another YEAR!
I don't believe those are mandatory on OCPs. Most troops have a good set with all of their stuff sewn on. But then the rest have shitty and raggedy uniforms they work in and don't care about.
Was with the 101st for three years. Was only a handful that had jump wings. They are nothing but a bunch of legs. I take my hat off to those that served while it was true Airborne, but sigh as to what I saw, while there, and see now. Maybe they can be both Airborne and Air Assault. That, I think, would be the shit. Btw, if a person is not Airborne, their still a leg.
I got to fort Campbell and after 4 months i was Air Assault Qualified. First thing they asked me when i got to my unit was "what's your PT score?? How's your run??Ow okay you should be good for Air Assault by next month then." You are pretty much forced to go. Either you like it or not your first sergeant will make sure you go and PASS IT.
@@bakhaa9802 My First Sargent tried to make me put my Airborne wings above my Air Assault wings. I politely told him that he can kiss my ass. I told him that it takes more balls to jump from an airplane, then it does to slide down a rope. He got pissed and I said, "Watch this," and I put both wings in my pocket and pointed out that he couldn't do shit about it. He stayed pissed at me for the whole duration of my stay. I was one of the old school E-4 Mafia.
My friend wanted to be in the military all his life because his meat head Dad pumped him up with a bunch of BS talk like it was a big party or something. He joined the Marines and spent two years driving a forklift in Okinawa. He went through a lot of abuse in boot camp just to drive a forklift in a warehouse. On the plus side he was really into anime in highschool and he finally got to see Japan so uhm there's that.
This might be happening to me right now, almost. One of the downsides of being commissioned is you submit a request for resignation that has to be approved. On active duty officers are expensive, but in the reserves, apparently they're willing to 'take their time processing the request'.
i was kind of a shitbag soldier and even i got the "good soldier, we need you" talk.
They just need bodies to keep the place warm
@@lyncharles4856 U mean bodies to feed the meat grinder.
Exactly!
🤣
I almost cried because this is so true
Command: You will never make it in the real world and will come crawling back.
Me: So you are saying only failures stay in the service?
haha damn bro
I like the optimism reverse talk!nice
Lmaoooo was told the same thing...told them I was the smartest person in the unit by far and walked out. Left as an E-4 and was making 20 year captains pay within 3 years...never looked back...
@@franknoneofya9585 me too. My job is literally corona proof, work from home. But damn being married i wish i just died in Afghanistan
When command says you’ll never make it in the real world... that’s the biggest disrespect they can give to a soldier.
You sacrifice everything for your country, and the moment you want your reward which is to live a normal life upon leaving the service, they want to shit on all that by saying you’ll come crawling back?
Phuck that. When you get out, live well.
Move onto the next chapter in your bucket list of things to do in life.
Don’t give command the satisfaction of you “crawling back”. That’s very rude.
The last people you’d expect to disrespect your nation’s warriors are their own command.
The greater the sacrifice the more respect is due.
Like the old saying, “A bad king is feared or resented by his subjects. But a good king is loved and respected by his subjects.”
Command aught to learn from that. Nah Phuck that “one more year” stuff the very first time.
I want my reward aka a normal life whether you like it or not. Not signing a reenlistment.
Tell President DT to forcibly shift our focus to renewable energy sources so that we’ll have no more need to stay in the Middle East anymore to protect oil assets.
Even Forrest Gump didn’t Re-Up and he had a IQ below 70
I think I’ll follow the footsteps of greatness
HAHAHAHA
Gump was a medical discharge.
I was in the NG with a guy who didn't know about ETS dates. When we explained, he claimed his should have been 3 years before. Turned out, someone was signing 1 year extensions for him.
From the Guard? I can totally believe it
DAMN!!!!!
That's about right!
that is absolutely ridiculous
Yea this is a lie
The 9 dislikes are by recruitment officers
36 now lol
Why dumbass? Recruiters had nothing to do with reenlistment! It was retention O's and SNCO's. , career planners etc.
😂😂
And Now we are at 112. I'm beginning to think these are soldiers that relate on a personal level.
@@kurtstergar1042 Exactly, all recruiters do is get forced by CO's to lie to recruits.....(0.0)
I know this isn't nearly as bad as this story but when my buddy and I were processing out in San Diego, he was still in the process of getting out a few days before his ID expired and the gate guard took it. Couldn't eat at the chow hall, use the gym, legally get on base, all while being held at our prison of a barracks waiting on paperwork to go through. We joked that he could finally say he was a POW.
Unless his entire contract was up (including the years you do as a civilian, but still in IRR, that mp shouldn't have taken his ID. By UCMJ, you are suppose to keep everything, especially your ID until you are officially out. I still have mine, even though I eased in 2017, but still in the IRR unit June of next year. That mp was probably a boot lol.
Mixed-Rebel
That’s a big negative. MP’s are required to take your ID and you have to go get a new one the next working day. It’s normal and happens all the time.
Military Police and your CO can actually confiscate your ID. This talk that only CO’s can is absolutely wrong.
Also, if he can go get his orders he will be able to enter and leave post, eat at the dfac etc.
My wife, a civilian contractor, has had to travel miles each way at Gov't expense to appear at the same Pentagon office some 14 times in 5 years -- that's right, almost once every THREE MONTHS -- to have re-issued the CAC card she needs to access a client's computer system. The CAC office was always packed, and they never had any of her previous records (had to bring them anew each time, which required a wet-ink signature by a senior Gov't supervisor). It was a self-licking ice cream cone (sinecure) for the staff there, who were none too efficient. She lost half a day of productivity, at $$$ per hour her company charged to the government, in the process. Computer security is important, but the military shoots itself in the foot with certain procedures.
@@TattsnGuns so you only served 1 year?
I reenlisted 4 times. Every time I asked for just one thing. I wanted to ride in a helicopter. That's it, nothing big, nothing extraordinary. They promised, I signed. Well, 13 years later and 4 lying commanders later, no helicopter ride. Three days after my ETS, the 1SG Cardoza called me at home at 0600 hours hollering because I was not at PT. I was still cussing at his stupid ass when he hung up the phone.
My first enlistment I was with the Air Cav at Ft.Ord in 82. Did a hard landing, never wanted to fly them birds ever again.
That why you only sign it in the helicopter. My PO1 refused to reenlist until he could sign it in a helicopter in the air
I got to fly in a helicopter a few years ago. Don't weigh enough to fly in a fighter jet though.
@@SeansModelBuilds there's waivers for that. Buddy and I each got an F-15E incentive flight. He's 6'7", too tall for ejection. They just made him sign a waiver acknowledging he'd likely die if they had to eject.
@@dry-insertion4876 lol that's commitment.
My retention NCO got really legitimately angry when I told her I wasn’t going to sign to re enlist or even extend and told me “I FIST BUMPED YOU!” As if it was a logical argument to keep me in
This needs to be played at every f'cking high school.
845835ab “But SARG’T..” 😭
Now that I know how they can shaft you I'll be asking for a different contract from my recruiter. He had me thinking that I could switch my MOS pretty easily. Now that I know that's a lie I'm gonna change it up.
@@92powerdiesel61 Unless someone is in a desperate situation and joining the military is their only option in life you should always play it my way or no way when joining. There are plenty of current and former members of the military who are making videos telling everyone that if it's not in your contract you are f'cked 99.9% of the time so why join if you are going to get f'cked. No one should want to start their military service off getting f'cked right out of the gate and then possibly having something like this happen at the end. Unless you are truly desperate don't join or re-up if what they are offering you is lies and/or garbage. If they have nothing to offer you then you should tell them to find another desperate sucker.
@@845835 Yeah, I had wanted to go infantry for a 3 year contract then switch to helicopter mechanic. But if its this hard to make the switch I don't want it. If it's possible I'd still like the opportunity but this video and all the comments are making me scared to do it.
@@92powerdiesel61 What videos like this and the people who make them teach you is when all is said and done it does not matter what branch of the military someone decides to join they will always give you what they need versus what you want. For most people looking to join the military there is no reason to do so based upon maybes and outright lies. Handshakes and trust me ain't worth $h!t.
Got to love that retention NCO.... most hated man in the army! LMFAO.
Edmund Dobry justifiably
Total effing a$$ hole in my unit. Did not take the bait when he refuse me a new MOS that needed people. Went Guard with a new MOS and new skills, and a civilian job that keeps paying me while deployed... notwithstanding GI bill around the corner too. So glad this idiot plaid hardball and obliged me to leave.
I've got a better one for you.
Guy I know was indefinitely extended and it lasted two years. What makes matters worse is that when came back state side, some people in the unit he was in did some stupid shit, in uniform, in town, that effected civilians. His entire unit was restricted from leaving base, and we're assigned extra responsibilities. One of his responsibilities caused him to always show up last at chow, which means he got last pickings. Some of the people who prepped the food during those two years, were later on severely disciplined for beyond improper and inappropriate food prep. So he was getting the last of the worst, and was restricted from leaving and going to some dumpster in town to pick up better food.
@@tobiasreaper3650 Damn!
@@TheAngryman1967 imagine getting the sh**s on a regular basis, and you're already the one who has extra Lolly duty, to clean the bathrooms that you, and others, are taking care of your SEVERE business (🤮🤢💩) in. You know it's bad when you were getting better food at a semi-remote base in Iraq. The reason it took so long to fix is because the investigation took a long time, because everyone thought it was a problem with the supplier or source, when in reality, the guys in the kitchen were lazy disgusting f***s. To throw salt on the wound, the officers' chow was run just fine by some hard working seasoned cooks, and was overseen by a guy who graduated from culinary school a year before he enlisted. The good news is that the brass did care about their enlisted troops, and when it came out that it was actually the ones in uniform who made the food, they went ape s**t. All of them went before a disciplinary committee, a few of which had everything in the UCMJ thrown at them, landing them in Court Marshall.
Man, this is so spot on.
I was marines infantry, and I remember my bonus they offered me the first time was $32,000 when I was in Iraq (which would have made it tax free),but I hadn't even been in for 2 years yet and kept thinking 6 more years?!? There were guys a rank higher than me getting up to $64,000 + gaining a rank to stay in, and I declined because I just didn't want to commit to another 4 years.
In the time between the next time they approached me I had got promoted and had went to some very high level in demand schools.
However, the next time around when the conversation came up I got offered just over $3,000 to stay in. Every single senior guy in my platoon (like 24 of us) all got out.
Wow that is nuts. Any reasons why?
@@vlun121 At one point they were downsizing the Corps, that could be it.
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 "At one point" I think it's "All the fucking time"
@@blyatman7244 You see a surge in numbers when a conflict is coming. At one point they said they were getting rid of all of the cooks as an MOS. They wanted those spots for trigger-pullers. They never went through with it.
Wait... They're offering 3,000$ to stay in, but how much do you get per month for being there? I've heard that you get like 2k per month or is that not true?
Did those denied-handshakes actually happen too, lol
He should have offered him in his left hand
Pissed off soldiers getting there contract extended... Yeah it probably did happen.
Drew you gotta tell us the real true story don’t leave us hanging like that
yes!
Yes, please tell us because I want to know if they're still in the military or got out or if it was you. Or somebody, you know. Don't leave us hanging. You got to tell us.
Agreed. My man, we NEED to know
I have to know the ending to this story
For real!!!
"But SARGE....!"
That would of been good
Chris Birch BUT SARNT’!!
I got your ass now!!!! 45\45, Reduction in Rank!!! CID!! Indefinite!
@@gamecarayzy943 this is the correct pronunciation
Meanwhile Private Contractors are sending out fliers to your door
Excalibur01 with 200 k salary
At least it’s good money, I’m down all day and less strict, buddy of mine in AF went that route and he makes lawyer pay owns two houses and a boat so doesn’t seem too bad haha
I'm currently in the process doing that
Chris what job did he have in the af
@@idirhhrin8876 He was a loadmaster
People wonder why veterans are so bitter...
The thing is, you know any time you sign on the dotted line they can come up to you at some point and tell you that THEY (Uncle Sam) have decided the country really needs you, so your enlistment has been extended for however long they want you. They make that quite clear to anyone and everyone who enlists, and then they get reminded of it occasionally over time. But there are ways to do that without screwing people.
@@TedBronson1918 In 17 years I will have reached the Compulsory Retirement Age of 60. The military cannot keep me in after that unless they raise the CRA again.
@@SeansModelBuilds Good luck to you if you want to stay in. You know how the military is though, always making room at the top for promotions. Most enlisted people have already retired at your age or near it - by 50. If I can offer you some advice - start looking at civilian jobs you can apply your military skills to. I used to perform retirement parades every month. It seemed that some people who were "All Army" and never considered working post-retirement died off relatively soon after in many cases and I found myself rendering their funeral honors too. I'd hate for you to be in that situation. I'm just saying your military retirement is secure now, so you can feel free to think of/plan for a 2nd civilian retirement if you want to, and not suddenly find yourself with a loss of purpose. Anyway, Good Luck !
@@TedBronson1918 Thanks to my model building and story writing hobbies, I will not be bored in retirement.
@@SeansModelBuilds Good to hear. Good Luck !
Its depressing and scary how much I relate to this shit..... yes ppl, shit like this actually happens, whether you did or DIDNT do something, until everything can be investigated. But funny video bro!
CubanSoldier 20 investigate stuff that happened during service or prior?!
You realize how much you are loved when CID gives you a ring and start asking questions about the clinic you are being treated at. I guess I was stupid enough to assume that being a solider in "Headquarters Company" my command would know that I needed treatment after getting whacked since we where all there when it happened! 😳
It's sad how accurate this is.
@@elliottroca Investigating ALLEGATIONS that didnt come up until you are already on TERMINAL leave.... DAYS away from ETSing and then getting recalled back and involuntarily extended just so they can take their SWEET MOTHAFUCKING TIME to go through everything. Just to finally get told, "ok you are good, you didnt do anything wrong" and then allowed to be discharged. The army LOVES fucking you and doesn't give a shit about anything. It's all politics and you are just a number at the end of the day. Other then that, stay positive and resilient lol👍🏽
Well brother... Chaplains office is right down the hall.
“No airborne” ah yes this would happen to a ground boy.
as he is already wearing the Airborne patches lmao
@@josephdragojevich7041 That's just a unit designation
@Slappy Thastick I served at USAG Bamberg in Germany 2008-2010 under 16th SB.
One of the other major units on post was the 173rd Airborne Brigade. They say that they are the only Airborne unit in the Army to have made a combat jump into IRQ or AFG. One or the other. I can't remember
J P i think they made two combat jumps in there bro. I’m in graf rn they got a few 173rd dudes here.
@@mr.nobody68 173rd was actually the 4th Battalion of 325th A.I.R aka Golden Falcons. 325th is the only Airborne Infantry Regiment. The rest are P.I.R.'s Paratrooper Infantry Regiment.
173rd did jump into Iraq into a secure DZ far away from any fighting with SF and Kurdish troops wondering what they were doing since their flight was all of 10 mins and was mostly a publicity stunt with no direct contact of any nature and why last time I checked was being rescinded as a combat jump.
My command was PISSED when I ETSed. Protip: Telling your sailor (or soldier, or marine, or whatever) that they'll never make it in the real world and that they were a traitor to their country if they don't sign the dotted line doesn't encourage people to re-up. Especially when they've had a million different excuses why they couldn't send you to TAPS classes or why they've just been sitting on your ETS paperwork and refusing to do anything with it. Or when they call up to the barracks NCO and tell him to make your life hell trying to check out.
Yes, all this is a true story, and unlike certain people in my command the barracks chief wasn't a raging assclown so he told me about the "special request" he had gotten.
CM or not I'd put a gun to a mfs head over stupid shit like that
Going through that shit right now, counting down the days til I ETS in July
@@BonsaiRaygun21 you out fam?
@@BonsaiRaygun21 Update bro Update
Those idiots think you gonna stay in with that bullshit are the ones who wouldn't make it in real life.
When I went active duty, my first assignment was Ft. Bliss by God Cavalry. A month on station and I deployed to the main force of the Regiment. One tiny problem, the rear detachment forgot to send my security clearance.... so for 4 months I was on one of two details KP or Crap Burning...... A few days after the ground war ended and we were returning to Saudi Arabia, my 1SG approached me and said "GREAT NEWS PFC, we just received your security clearance and you are good to go." I found out later that the file had been sitting on the S-2's desk since the month prior to my arrival to Texas.
Daaaaamn, that's fucked!
Seriously fuck S2 and S3, Battalion and Brigade level. They never push paperwork through in a timely manner, and they don't give a fuck about people unless you work at HQ/State and you're willing to kiss ass and work your knees out. If the paperwork side of it all would actually work efficiently, you wouldn't have as many issues as there are(personal experience), and people would probably stay in. But due to poor leadership and only promoting those that look good on paper(and people not able to do their jobs correctly in HQ)versus their merit and ability to be an effective leader, people want to get the fuck out.
So SPC, can you re-enlist? Or even extend?
Me: no sergeant. I’m done. I’m burned out. I’m ETSing out.
Sign up for another 6 years and 20k will be your to pay off your 26% interest mustang you bought as E1
@@ryannguyen7466 thats if you bought a mustang
Two words.
Child Support
Haha I know someone who purchased a Shelby for around 80k after 6 years he hasn't finish paying it yup most people that join the military get nice cars that they cant afford and never get to drive. I purchased my truck for 4k paid all in cash when I got out of the military.
@@Alejandra-cv7rj I know some guys who left their vehicles to their girlfriends, and had their jody drive it. One of them crashed it. Shit is nuts.
Worst thing I've seen happen to a veteran!!! 10 years after being med board out, his local police came to his job, arrested him, put him on a plane in handcuffs, flew him to a military base thousands on miles away, locked him in the barracks and after all that did they finally tell him that was because he was marked awol. He didn't even know why he was being arrested or flown to another state until they put him in barracks lock down. The Post General, BC, CSM, 1SG, and Company commander all agreed to keep him on lock down until he could be out processed. 1 month later they threw a uniform at him with a Spc rank because the only paper work they could find in records and the Pentagon is that he was promoted to a specialist. 2 months later he snuck off base where a limo with his states congresswoman was waiting for him. It took a literal act of Congress to get him back to his state. And all this was because his ets came before he could finish his med board process so the med board NCO was suppose to finish it but didn't.
I was thinking about enlisting but listening to these stories about being screwed over like this is making me being hesitant.
@@andresherrera2902 go airforce, less likely. Go army if you strong enough to put up with some BS, I haven't had terrible things done to me yet but if your looking for safety just go airforce. Army can kinda be high risk high rewards, went on a deployment and just did as much schools as I could and now I'm making 5k a month provided since the army paid for my schools and certification. Not a grunt is something I should also mention.
@@Handler217 this dudes talking out his ass. doesn't matter which branch you go to. I was in the air force and people got fucked over like crazy. Only thing I can say is if you are smarter than a bag of rocks don't go army or marines.
An absolutely outrageous story... And I totally unflinchingly unquestioningly believe it.
@@Handler217😢 amen I was separated straight out of S Korea with a diagnosis of intellectual disability after completing ASAP and multiple Neuro psych tests. 7 years later today I’m finally realizing the reason all my pay was held from me. Someone noted conditions, not a disability. I should have been contacted arba
Me: I’ll re-up, but I wanna reclass. Retention puke: to what? Me: space shuttle door gunner! Retention: get out of my office.
Gotta move over to "space force" for that job.
1 min in and this is already too relatable. I was SPC when my initial 3 was coming up on ETS, My 1SG was so nice to me I thought he was drunk or something, but he wanted to pad my ego with thoughts of "Just reup and you'll be a Seargent" He underestimated my memory of how I was treated when they didn't need me to make quota.
Best advice I ever received was when you’re flagged, or part of any CID investigation (whether primary suspect, witness or accessory), to go to the JAG office closest to you and retain the lawyer. You don’t want to be the last person out there trying to get a lawyer. Your ass will be traveling hours away to whatever post has an available jag lawyer that hasn’t been retained by the other Soldiers related to your case.
jag sucks... they still work for the military!!!
If you can afford it. And sometimes if you can't get your own. JAG Doesn't care
It reminds me of my separation interview. I got called in to speak with the XO. Had no idea what the subject was, but I was short so no real surprise there. The LT gave me the speech (they must have to memorize it in OCS) while I sat there like a good soldier. After he finished, I told him - "Lt., I'll sign a contract for 20 years right now. Just want a couple of minor items. 1) Direct Commission as a Lt. Col. and 2) a 3 year MAC assignment to London". He just sat there for a few seconds, kind of stunned like before telling me to get out. Based on what I am reading here, I guess I was kind of lucky not to have gotten in trouble for letting my mouth write that check. But that was back in 1968. I'm sure things are a whole lot different now! P.S. I didn't get the commission or the assignment, but I did get to go home.
Why would you have gotten in trouble for stating what you wanted? Did you disrespect him? Not really. If I was your LT I would have given you a path on how to become a Lt. Col and provided the resources, etc, make sure your NCO's were tracking that we would be sending you to school, etc. Hands outs are never worth it in the long run.
@@Nperez1986 my guess would have pissed them off and due to the rank difference could make up bs. But I wouldn't know merely a guess and hello 2 year old comment.
@@Nperez1986It's because he's clearly screwing around
Sounds like the 10th mnt div. They pulled a fast one in 08. Needed more people to deploy for 09. Emptied out med board units. Sent soldiers back to home unit. Then stoplossed/ med hold on all soldiers. It was some creative fuckery from the green weenie. Ah big army put so much effort into sticking it in our hiney holes. They just didn't realize the power of the dark side. One of the guys in my unit was a speech writer for a senator and I still had my "phone a friend" option on the table. 24 hours later. Im woken up by my squad leader. Wanting to know why the whole command group had to go down to division. To read the letter that was hand written by sec state and flown to drum, asking about the assfuckery that the army was trying to pull. It was glorious.
We had stoploss for half the time I was at Drum in the 90s. Got me out of Korea the first time those orders came up. Second time I got out of it because I had a major ortho surgery three days before my report date. The surgeon pulled the orders. But I was too fucked up post-recovery and my ETS was literally right around the corner, so they skipped a med board and just let the clock run out on me. I had most of the summer of 2000 paid for by terminal leave, so that was nice.
DNW!
broooo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stop Loss....smh 🤦
Fuck yeah dude
In the Army Reserve, after 8 years, they tried to get me to stay as they badly needed experienced NCO's, but this was in mid-2001. I handed them a stack of over 200 pages that I asked them to send up the chain of command showing evidence of how dangerous the Anthrax vaccine at that time was and how many soldiers, airmen, marines, and sailors had their health ruined by it, along with evidence of systematic suppression of VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) forms, systemic lies about the vaccine, conflicts of interest (former Joint Chief of Staff Vice Admiral Crowe was the Chairman of Bioport, the company that made the vaccine at the time), and countless other issues such as the fact that the program was a violation of the the Nuremberg Codes that we signed after WWII that banned testing drugs on soldiers. To be honest I really wanted to stay as I loved being an NCO and I loved the Army even if it was just the Reserves. My unit was like my second family. But the military treats you like government property and I was not going to be some damn guinea pig to have vaccines and shit tested on me. Once you sign that dotted line, they own you. But I didn't and got out in June 2001.
After 9-11 as the buildup for the war in Iraq was going on, they sent me a letter saying I was to report back to duty at my old unit otherwise face arrest. I promptly ignored the letter as I was long past my IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve). I was still amazed that the actually tried to trick me with bullshit like that to get me back in.
A soldier at my work came down with ALS, he said service members are 10% more likely to get it vs civilians. First thing in my mind was the smallpox or anthrax vaccines.
I’m sure that doesn’t happen anymore and I’ll be dammed if the army hasn’t been sued yet or something
@@michaelegotti6439 It's really hard to sue the military. So I'm quite sure things like this are still going on. Last I heard they had a new version of the Anthrax vaccine under development and ready to be used on soldiers.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax_Vaccine_Immunization_Program
Yep. I'm VA rated for hypothyroid. Anthrax vaccination in 2005. I had voluntarily denied it prior to deployment, was ordered to take it upon landing in the desert. Turns out a lot of peoples' immune systems went fucking haywire after the Anthrax vaccination.
@@michaelegotti6439 i think your understanding of how things work in federal is very low
I wanna know what happened to the soldier. If he ever got out.
Some say he's still extended to this day.
He's making UA-cam videos
He's still overseas. At this point he's become a permanent fixture at a base in Afghanistan.
NOPE STILL cleaning the barracks.
Sounds like a guy in my old unit callsign old blue... He was 42 and looked 80... Nobody knew why he was still in or when he would get out. Hooah o'll blue!
They try to pull this shit on you even if you aren't under investigation lol! I was in the Army active duty,spent 4 years in as a Cavalry Scout. Just got to my second duty staion (Ft. Knox) after leaving Germany and coming back from deployment. When I got there my chain of command started putting me in charge of field missions as an E-4 and promising to promote me to E-5. A year goes by with good counseling statements,I'm actually in a E-5 slot with my own soldiers I'm in charge of as Squad leader (still as senior E-4 of the platoon) and I'm sent to the Soldier of the Month board as "prep for the E-5 board". Took first place on the board up to Squadron lvl and fourth place in Regiment lvl. They kept saying we're going to promote you,we promise. 3 months away from my ETS date I'm sent to see the retention NCO(on my first re-enlistment),my offer was choice of 4 shitty duty stations one of which was being deployed where I was just deployed at before, one was my old duty station I just came from who were getting ready to deploy to Iraq,staying at Ft. Knox for another 18 months or going to Korea. No schools were offered,no re-enlisting bonus and you guessed it, I would have to wait until I got to my next duty station to get promoted because I was too short on time now. I said no thanks,I'll just ETS. I've heard the horror stories about people falling for that crap and I'm not falling for it,especially without a decent bonus.
3 months later while on terminal leave on my last day,they held my final platoon formation in the motor pool. I walked through the formation shaking the hands of soldiers I liked saying my goodbyes and flipped off the ones I didn't like telling them to go fuck yourself.
Our Platoon Sgt. was a shitbag who I'm pretty sure stole a bunch of TA-50 after he told the EM's that they could stow their gear In the work closet after a field mission for the weekend which I advised was against our policy orders and they shouldn't do it because someone could steal it and they'd be responsible for it,and surprise surprise, it came up missing after the work closet was broken into that weekend. (Our platoon was the only ones who knew it was there)
I saved the Platoon Sgt. for the last person to flip off as he tried to shake my hand (he thought it was funny I was doing that until it was his turn lol) and I told him he could go fuck himself for being a p.o.s and for lying to me about the promotion as well as stealing from EM's he was supposed to be taking care of. He went on saying that he was going to give me a article 15 and delay my ETS date and have me on 30 days of extra duty and bust me to E-1 and take my pay. I turned around and flipped him off again as I walked away and said good luck filing that paperwork and getting it pushed through before tomorrow asshole and laughed all the way out of the motor pool to my car and drove off as he kept shouting get back here and drop mother fucker. Never did see that article 15 and left state the very next day.
You are a hero man, I ets next December cant fucking wait
@@justanaverageguy7293 thanks bro but I'm no hero, was just fed up with the bullshit and knew how to be technically and tactically proficient with some testicular fortitude. Good luck with your ETS and future endeavors bud! Make sure you get all medical stuff documented before you get out and that your awards and paperwork including your DD 214 are correct and accurate and fight fir everything you can get compensation for once out,you earned that shit and deserve it. And take care of yourself and just take things one day at a time when you get out. It's a big adjustment to the civilian sector that takes time getting used to again,but when we have a bad day there's always tomorrow. Don't ever give up!
@@richmtnrecon9120 for sure man, the only thing I worry about is these horror stories of guys getting put under investigation for no reason? Not sure what thats all about you have any input by any chance?
@@justanaverageguy7293 usually if someone is put under investigation it's for a reason that usually the chain of command is trying to keep quiet about because either they don't have proof,it's false accusations or they want to get proof. I've seen soldiers go under investigation for no reason and it was because the accusations were false. They'll also try to keep it quiet to build a case against the soldier and get all the facts beforehand. I've seen soldiers report stuff on other soldiers just to give them shit and harrass them and I've also been stuck in the middle of that before too having to watch soldiers get in trouble for doing stupid stuff like dealing drugs while I was on QRF duty,not fun stuff. Same guy I was hanging out with in our sister platoon when he got his dui went under investigation and we busted him on QRF with a pound of weed sitting in his barracks bathroom out in the open. His roommate wasn't doing anything but got put under investigation just in case.
All depends on the soldiers and the chain of command to be honest as well as the situation as to what is going on and how it's handled. Sometimes it boils down to chain of command being shitty and messing with people but that's not a norm.
@@richmtnrecon9120 ok thanks for that, im a pretty squared away guy, just doing my time and keeping my head low ya know? Never got in trouble before (nothing crazy I have been late once or twice to formation) just hoping for a clean ETS.
Always have an alibi. They tried that with me, had witnesses and everything saying I was at the scene of the crime. My internet search history said otherwise. Now I don't think I need to go over what was in my search history, but the time and IP location proved my alibi.
I take pictures all the time: there's my alibi.
"And that's how I defected the military and married your mom in this village"
I knew a guy who was a witness in a CID/IG investigation while he was going through training in a TRADOC unit. They held him there for seven years when I'd met him. I came and went and at eleven years they finally finished their investigation. He put in 11 years as a "trainee", luckily they waived the rest of his contract and allowed him to take a retirement since he had a decade under his belt before that happened.
I have got to know more about this. So he wasn't able to finish his AIT or go anywhere else?
@@nevileasterling648 He finished his training, but they wouldn't let him leave. If I remember correctly they froze his MOS and wouldn't give him his specialty as well (152A pilot with no specialty meant no aircraft training which wasn't correct). So he stayed there acting both as a trainee in holdover and doing admin work while he waited year after year. He got a scheduled promotion but they wouldn't let him go higher - so he was locked in as a W2 when he should have been a W3 on the brink of W4.
@@JoshuaCairns Mother of God, that is some green weenie to the absolute max.
@@JoshuaCairns at least he was getting warrant officer pay and not E2 pay.
For 10 years of sitting around getting 40k a year, its not all that bad
I knew a trooper at Sill that went through the same. And he was only E3 and said he has been there 5 years. That's crazy finger popping shot right there.
LMAO, he refused his hand shake 4 different times and played it off chill AF. 😂🤣
JEREMY RIDGE he didn’t respect him that’s why he got fucked lol
“No no the Chaplin will take care of you” made me pee a little.
And the Army wonders why their retention rates are down the drain.
Wes Takahashi the Army would only do that if they urgently needed warm bodies or if they needed the respective MOS, the Army is a business... which is why soldiers get treated like garbage.
Nobody wants to fight useless wars for Israel anymore. The mask has slipped.
@@basharal-assad2403, no. Everyone's just tired of trying to drag the muslim world into the 21st century.
@@jesupcolt You're overestimating our ability. We need to drag them into the 16th century first before we consider any further action 😂😂.
@@JFBD1999, haha, true. Baby steps must be made.
That's why when my ETS Date got close I listened to what some people call your first mind.
I bounced up out of there with the quickness. Another soldier that I served with wasn't so lucky he reenlisted and got busted down a rank a month later. Man FTS!
TheAngryman1967 why’d he get demoted?
@@HateTheIRS I don't recall but he wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. However once he reenlisted they dogged him and that was enough for me.
TheAngryman1967 lmao
Was he infantry?
@@HateTheIRS Yes! We weren't/all knuckle draggers😜!
This reminds me of my involuntary extension. I was 3 days from ETS. Three whole motherfreak'n months later I got my orders, my unit was set to mobilize in a few days, effective ETS was 2036. What got me more than anything was I was E5P at the time but now can't be promoted because I was under involuntary extension.
RIP
Dont know what's worse a deal with the devil for your sole or a deal with the millitery for your body.
The military is getting a lot more than just your body.
Lol I get pissed when my boss asked me to stay 5 min past my shift
Happens all the time. We eat our own! I can never understand it.
Jokes on you, I got $7k for 6 years..... wait, what
@Wes Takahashi I was Air Force. It's like every other job, but you have to test to rank up and make better pay. You really don't make much staying in the dorms, but the chow hall is free.
Lol
@DK88 34 lol I drive a rig and grossed double of what you contracted for 3 years in 6 months. Fuck I know OTR driving is pretty dangerous but I'd be pissed if I was in the military making bs pay. Forget the free chow hall, food doesn't rack up that much unless we drivers eat out all the time.
DK88 34. Learn from my mistakes, invest in Realestate, please!!!
In 71 I was stationed in Saigon, really easy sweet duty, I was offered promotion to E 6 if I stayed 6 more months, nothing extra. Decided it was best to head home immediately than to stay an additional 6 months only to be murdered by my wife upon my return home. Didn’t care much for the Army but they did teach me to cook which proved quite helpful in finding in
employment.
I don't get it:
How can you write this if you're wife killed you, unless you're joking.
@@rossjones5741 it's a phrase.
My wife(or girlfriend, etc) is gonna kill me refers to they been expecting you and if you didn't come back then boy are they gonna be made hense "murdered or killed" oh and hello 2 year old comment
The accuracy is unparalleled. The bonus , the extension, the investigation, the other investigation, the deployment, the tears , the depression............ oh yea and the VA not giving a damn.... throw that in there. .
My ETS on May, I don't have no intention to extend or re-enlist and here I'm still got deployed my RSG stop loss me until deployment is done.
I went Guard and worked for Johnson&Johnson who keep paying while I deploy. So much better. Get to have double pay and double retirement if I bomb the units with volunteer slots. Others got GS12-13 federal tech pay making 100+k as E5 equivalent working for Guard units full time. Fck these mofos, they would not even let me get another MOS. I’m like, you all crazy, my unit is not my plantation, this is the Federal government, yo, I can switch. JnJ is hiring like crazy in Florida.
Sfer Tonoc 100k between JnJ and full time Guard? What would you exactly do working at JnJ?
You must be the 10th mountain replacing us in afghanistan, and if you are, trust me ain't nothing much over here anymore.
@@fearlesftw1 What do you mean by "aint nothing much here anymore?" Combat? Bases?
@@fearlesftw1 nah I'm in Poland.
And the govt wonders why we're losing 22 a day!
Fun Fact, thanks to COVID the military already reached it's 50,000+ renelistment goals already this year
@@Nperez1986 lmao! Yeah, not surprised
They actually don't care in the first place.
@@nimblejokester801 well I know that, lol... gov't themselves don't
@@Nperez1986 isn't also because of the female soldier being brutally murder in Fort Hood?
"The Chaplain's office is actually right down the hall" 😂😂😂
Saw the Army lose a great soldier all because they refused him a reclass. Kid had done everything and more you could ask of a soldier. Went to high level enlisted boards and won.
Asked to reclass....
Army said no
He got out.
If anyone deserved a waiver or exemption to policy it was him
They lose a lot of good soldiers that way.
Same I asked to reclass from fuel they give me excuses of no training available I said fine want to play games ok I’ll get out go be a police officer in my town
Enjoy getting in new soldiers and your trip to Poland 😂
Why would anyone enlist when they can arbitrarily say you're "being investigated indefinitely" and functionally tear up your contract? If they cannot make a firm contract with you up front, then there's no point in joining.
Because as a previous poster stated, go immediately to the JAG office, get a lawyer and make them put up or shut up. They aren't going to arbitrarily do this to people. Even if they did a mediocre lawyer can demand to see the documents and make their life a living nightmare all to keep on 1 soldier in...not gonna happen unless there is something there.
I re-enlisted with the promise of going back on jump status after six months.
I ended up staying in a "leg" unit for three years. I was a pissed off E-4 the whole time.
I even went to Air Assault school, just to take a break from the fucking motor pool.
And, yeah, I wore the same patch they wear in this video.
Been watching your vids for quite a while and love them.
Keep them coming.
They spend 1 million on a missile but can't pay 10 Gs for a re-enlistment bonus.
yeah, cannon fodder isn't worth much. new humans are born everyday
I love how universal your skits are. Like just change the uniforms and it's exactly what happened to me in the Navy. The glint in the CCC's eyes...
Hahhaha. My XO asked me to extend for WESTPAC. I said "okay". I can do another year. A year rolls by and we aren't ready to deploy fml.
This type of BS happens all the time in the service. Thank you to everyone that served to fight for your country. The army is like one big frat. There is all kinds of fun stuff most have to go through but never knew about or agreed to. It’s not the place for idealistic people for sure. I count those years as both the best and worst times in my life and this is looking back 20 years plus.
They Stop lossone of the Army females from retiring then sent her to Afghanistan. She came in and sat down. Didn't do nothing finally sent her home in a month.
“It might be easier to tell you what we don’t have is... is everything.” _Perfection._
Chaplains are a joke. Had a serious personal issue that I needed some advice solving, went to the chaplain because it's a private way to talk with someone(supposed to be anyway). Shit you not, next day at work people were flicking me shit about my problem and since I literally told no one but the chaplain, that means he flapped his fucking gums and spilled my personal bussiness, went to my commander to see if something could be done and got told "he's the chaplain, good luck getting anyone to back you on that." Never had anything but contempt for them after that.
Kong Hammer if your COC is not supporting you to conduct the investigation, go to IG! It can result in 15-6 for actually both Chaplain and CDR.
@@olgav4271 or as it usually happens the chaplain assistant eavesdropping like a real shitbag
Tristan Wolff true, that can happen, however assistants are also under the same confidentiality oath. So in Kong’s case the investigation should be warranted immediately. The complain to IG can be filed anonymously as well, if he fears retaliation. Just trying to help.
@@olgav4271 I told my chaplain i didnt think my third kid was mine and that shit got out before id even left the office. That 40 year old specialist got the brakes beat off him once I found him. Fuck IG, that message went through and he had to eat that crow or face court martial.
Depends on the Chaplin, on my first deployments our Chaplin was a great guy who went to bat for our soldiers, on my second deployment our Chaplin (maybe the assistant) ratted all of us out to our command.
When I hit my window, no amount will convince me to stay in. And I’m keeping my so low, my head is going to have grass stains on one side.
Benjamin Anderson I’m gonna sign up for 6 years that’s it. Then after I can start my own business
@@stinky_puppet5158 you're own business doing what? most small business start ups fail.
I served from 09-16. My cousin, who was a medic, served from 96 to 05. Here's the rub, he was stop lossed from 01 to 05. The Army wrote him a check for +30k and wrote a formal apology.
Something like this happened to me. Couple things different in my case though. 1) I didn't want out. 2) I was on medical hold. Ended up staying 21 months past my end of contract. Like I said, I wanted to stay in. I was planning on doing at least 20 anyway. They wouldn't let me reenlist. They wouldn't let me extend. And they wouldn't let me out. We all knew from the beginning I was never going to be fit for duty again (shattered left leg) so I lined up a good job for when I got out. By the time they let me go that job offer was gone. On the bright side, they ended up giving me a full retirement + disability. They are going to be paying me for the rest of my life so I can't bitch too much.
How old are you and how much if you dont mind me asking?
@@toxin1882 now? 51. Then? HOLYOHBATSTIT! This is a bad ass fuckin bike! How much am I getting?I'll tell you when free people don't wear a diaper on their face
Being a E-4 is not a cult its a life style
When i was in the National Guard and near the end of my contract. i was offered a promotion to SGT, A deployment, and a 4,000 re-enlistment bonus. Sounds like a good deal right? Well instead of taking the offer, I basically transferred over to the Air Force Reserves and after spending some Drill nights In some Hotels and lodges...I absolutely did not regret my decision lol
$4000 is nothing. Heck no this not a good deal. They better be throwing $40000 at me for me to stay in.
Dude, I've been out 2 years and I'm still getting contacted about rejoining. This video is on point. Bravo! Gentlemen! Bravo!
Mur der did you tell them you’re not interested
@@HateTheIRS Told em, I appreciated that they still want me but I wasnt interested.
Mur der don’t they understand that? Why do they keep trying to get you
@@HateTheIRS I put it this way: at one point in time I was considered to be a "essential personnel", so they probably need someone to fill a open slot regarding such without having to wait for someone to make rank. I'm pretty sure I wasn't there first choice though.
Mur der Hurd you
Forty eight years ago I was an E-4 wearing E-5 rank (Acting Sergeant) holding down an E-6 slot. And they had the audacity to tell me I wasn't going to be board eligible for years although I could re-enlist to continue to lead a rifle squad and fix problems around XVIII Airborne Corps...I left to become a homeless civilian. That at least was my choice.
🤣🤣🤣Same thing happened to me forty years ago at 2nd AD at Hood as an MP. Off to the Reserves for eight years as an E-4 and a homeless civilian.
Four years and I was out! 27 years later they probably can still see the smoke from my boots trailing out the gate.
“Chaplain will take care of you” no finer words in the military.
Wait...why was he under investigation now????
@Nihilist 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣...
Came to the comments to ask the same question.
Who knows CID makes shit up all the time
Commonwealth Bear you know this how? Nothing worse than a barracks lawyer talking out their ass. 🙄
@@rickg6726
Hey, I made good money as a barracks lawyer.
I finished ROTC with a "Guaranteed Reserve Contract" which had a clause that said something like, "I acknowledge that I may be required to go on active duty for training purposes." I asked, "What does that mean?" "Oh that means that after Officer Basic you might want to and get to go to Airborne or Ranger School." I went on active duty voluntarily and in my platoon in officer basic were three guys that had signed identical "Guaranteed Reserve Contracts" and were told around commissioning, "CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! You have been selected for a three year active duty for training tour!" So after 4 months of officer basic they went on to complete their remainder of their three year tour in a troop unit. The Army where guaranteed doesn't mean guaranteed and contracts are flexible on one party!
This video is how i felt when i was medically discharged shortly after returning home from iraq with 18 years service under my belt and then denied every time i tried to reenlist because doctors said my ptsd was to bad. Oh did i mention the 10% off px coupon they offered as a reenlistment bonus while deployed?
T E N P E R C E N T O F F P X C O U P O N
That is some straight up BS!
My head was almost chopped off on a jump and they will probably do me the same way.
I'm lucky to still be here. ,
This is one of the reasons I got out. I only had a 2 year enlistment, but saw so many guys with 8 and 12 years in bodies broken and being medically discharged with crap medical discharges like 20 & 30 percent. I was like, how are those guys going to live on 30%? What kind of civilian jobs are they going to find when they can’t even walk upright or pain free. Did not want that to happen to me so I pulled the rip cord.
You may leave the army, but the army never leaves you
We all go rolling along for ever
Sure the army leaves me
@@nathangallegos9304 I think what he ment is once your a soldier you don't truly ever stop being one. Sure you may hate how it functions but being a soldier is engraved in your mind to the end.
Thats right. Hooah!
Myrtles: You're not getting out. You're being investigated by CID.
Drew: What the f@&k!?
Me: I got an appointment with them later. I wonder how long it'll take for *your* name to come up, Myrtles. 😈
Haha hell yeah
My father was told they didn't have anyone to replace him and until they did he would be kept in. It took several congressmen and so on to get him out.
How am I just discovering this channel?!?! It's therapeutic for me.
Lol, the end... "Enjoy being a shitbag."
As a 17 year Army Veteran, I believe EVERY WORD is TRUE BRO! Thanks for surviving that chapter of BS in your life. 💯💪🏾#StillFunnyThoAfterTheFact
As an 11B, I did 16 1/2.... felt every piece of this...
@Alexander - Probably fat body or drugs
@Alexander I was wounded and medically retired. Might be better if you just told people thank for you service verses questioning their length. There's lots of factors, some uncontrollable for why people don't do 20. Some people just burn out. It's not the easiest lifestyle mentally, physically or relationship wise.
$2400 for 4 more years SSG...meanwhile pv1 snuffy coming in for 3 with $30k.
Good job!!! Best one yet!
Not gonna lie when he started crying at the end Wife totally thought i was watching loud porn she was in the bathroom, hard to replay the end.
jugzjamez And I’m assuming she didn’t come in to finish the job? You’re Army after all
jugzjamez ask her why she seems to be so familiar with what porn sounds like
What kind of porn does your wifey think you watch jesus lol.
Alright, I didn't watch the entire video but this comment got my attention. I just played the tale end of the video. My spouse said it 's no wonder you wife wanted proof.
We trade WTF videos segments with each other all the time. It also just proves I got lucky when the army doc declared me 4F in Pittsburg. The recruiter was pissed because I had aced the electronics part of the test. The recruiter wanted to run me over to an induction center in Ohio.
I need context. Tell us the story. I miss your stories.
I never smiled Soo much when I talked to retention on my way out. I was in Korea for that meeting and the guy on camp was a reserve master Sgt. He asked if I wanted to stay...I laughed...then we talked about Tennessee since we were both from there. All in all a good day. Ten years was enough for me.
Thank you for your service none the less
This is so relatable!!
If you have ever been in the military, the first thing everyone tells you never volunteer for anything.
What a great way to build morale. :)
True story. In 1990, I was an E-6 in the U.S. Navy and deployed to Operation Desert Shield. Within weeks that became Operation Desert Storm.
As Desert Storm kicked off, it was announced that anyone who had their enlistment contract ending in the next 90 days had two choices. The first was to rotate home and be discharged or remain “for the duration of the conflict.” They had NO idea how long the war might last. And my hitch was end in a month.
I was a 16 year veteran but I was on the next helicopter off that fucking ship. And I have never regretted that decision.
I was in the military from 2000-2004 and I can vouch for the accuracy of this video. I saw it happen to almost everyone.
"Thank God for Obama"
"Good for him"
LMFAO
Wow, we share similar experiences during my re-enlistment but I actually left. No bonuses, no schools, no duty station of choice (I actually volunteered to go with a unit that was deploying). I got recalled during the surge for 15 months and the NG unit that I was attached to tried to stop loss me for another 6 months without telling me. I called JAG right away and everyone allowed me to finally ETS with no issues. Talk about trying to serve your Country while being backstabbed the whole time.
We getting a part 2? This investigation is a mystery.
You two are both great actors!
Happened to a friend. He kicked in the captain's office door, fired up a joint, pissed on the commander's desk, said, "Test that, bitch!"
Then waited patiently for the MP's. He made it home 3 days early.
"You know we can't stop-loss ya, right?"
"Yea, Thank God for Obama"
So Obama stopped the stop loss?
So true... My 1SG told me I'd make a good NCO when I was in Afghanistan, everyday for a whole month he ask me if I wNted to reenlist and I'd get a bonus, didn't even how much the bonus was because I was fed up with my unit, I even extended for 5 months to stay in the hit zone and yes $500 a month extra on top all of my pay was not worth it.
I made staff Sgt USAF 8 months before I was due to get out told I couldn’t cross train no real re-enlistment bonus could not extend another year. I was told to and I quote “shit or get off the pot.” I got off the pot. Made the window before stoploss right before 9-11. Friend of mine had 3 month of leave saved up I had 1 month, he got stoplossed one month after I left. He was in for another YEAR!
That rapid fire sniffle at 6 minutes was on point
He is in the 101st, yet not AIRBORNE or Air Assault????? So he's just a LEG.
who346 really aren’t supposed to add badges to the deployment uniform
I don't believe those are mandatory on OCPs. Most troops have a good set with all of their stuff sewn on. But then the rest have shitty and raggedy uniforms they work in and don't care about.
Was with the 101st for three years. Was only a handful that had jump wings. They are nothing but a bunch of legs.
I take my hat off to those that served while it was true Airborne, but sigh as to what I saw, while there, and see now.
Maybe they can be both Airborne and Air Assault. That, I think, would be the shit.
Btw, if a person is not Airborne, their still a leg.
I got to fort Campbell and after 4 months i was Air Assault Qualified. First thing they asked me when i got to my unit was "what's your PT score?? How's your run??Ow okay you should be good for Air Assault by next month then." You are pretty much forced to go. Either you like it or not your first sergeant will make sure you go and PASS IT.
@@bakhaa9802 My First Sargent tried to make me put my Airborne wings above my Air Assault wings.
I politely told him that he can kiss my ass.
I told him that it takes more balls to jump from an airplane, then it does to slide down a rope.
He got pissed and I said, "Watch this," and I put both wings in my pocket and pointed out that he couldn't do shit about it.
He stayed pissed at me for the whole duration of my stay.
I was one of the old school E-4 Mafia.
My friend wanted to be in the military all his life because his meat head Dad pumped him up with a bunch of BS talk like it was a big party or something. He joined the Marines and spent two years driving a forklift in Okinawa. He went through a lot of abuse in boot camp just to drive a forklift in a warehouse. On the plus side he was really into anime in highschool and he finally got to see Japan so uhm there's that.
You guys are Awesome!! Need to head to Hollywood and take ovet.
This might be happening to me right now, almost. One of the downsides of being commissioned is you submit a request for resignation that has to be approved. On active duty officers are expensive, but in the reserves, apparently they're willing to 'take their time processing the request'.
Can’t end it there I wanna know more
Some say he’s still waiting for CID to finish their investigation.
I like how he keeps trying to shake his hand, and he just keeps ignoring it and sitting.
That handshake in the beginning though.