This is a valuable addition to my woodwork collection ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO I still will rate this woodwork plan as the best in my reference library. It always seem to stand out from the rest whenever you go through the library. This is a masterpiece.
Awesome tutorial, I also build epoxy tables and the educational value of this is priceless, your patience and attention to detail is admirable, on top of which you made a video longer than 10 minutes with zero background music that didn't bore me at all, I wish my narrating skills were to come close
I was having a really tough time removing the osmo with the orbital and white 3m pad. So, what I did was 2 coats of 1101 osmo on top of the 320 grit sanded table. Then 2 coats 3043 osmo no sanding between. sanded with 600 really well after those 2 coats, blew off with air compressor and wiped with blue shop rags, then 2 more coats osmo 3043 no with no sanding in between. I buff in the osmo with the orbital and white pad really well and then buff EVERYTHING off with clean shop rags BY HAND until it is silky smooth. This worked really nice for me. Smooth, no streaks, no swirls, and nice sheen. Hope this helps anyone with similar troubles. Great vid cam!
Thank you for showing your mistakes as well as successes. I have made a few projects and always got disappointed when mistakes get made. One thing learned is not whether mistakes get made, but how they are dealt with determines the level of craftsmanship. Thanks for showing your level of craftsmanship.
I refinished a table recently and got a lot of squirly marks from a cheap 1/4 sheet sander. I decided to leave them as the tables veneer was to thin, and I only caused more marks trying to remove the first marks. They were so light I did not see them til I started staining. Thanks to you I now know it was my sanding speed that caused them, and I can on my next project remember that.
The reason you don't want to skip grits is that the sandpaper is essentially making little scratches in the surface. If you skip grits, the higher grits can't make deep enough scratches to remove the scratches from much lower grits. (Picked up that tidbit from auto detail channels)
Man, I’ve seen your content for years and went back and watched this and something about it was SO informative. Your new finishing videos are really solid, don’t get me wrong, but you managed to answer every random, specific question I had in this one. Cheers from Colorado, thanks for the good content
Thanks for this video. Very very helpful for someone who’s experienced in woodworking, but not finishing epoxy tables. Many of my questions answered here!
There isn't ANYTHING that makes any difference in sanding ability except how long the tool is gonna last or how nice the tool looks. An orbital sander is an orbital sander unless the bearings are going out in it... 🤦🤦 dont fool people into thinking they have to buy a $600 sander to "sand better" 🤣 $40 sanders do just as good working on $4000 black epoxy tables and I prove it regularly.
Probably the most helpful video of all, I think one of the biggest challenges is getting that professional finish after all the hard work of building it. Thanks Cam
I would like to know about that nice looking plastic box you have for your sanding disks , Do you have other video on your epoxy do and don'ts and how you clean that nice looking buffer
I used your tips to finish up some coasters I made with wood I found on a beach. Having stumbled upon your videos way before I started this project I'd had an itch to experiment with epoxy and this was an easy/cheap way to get my feet wet! Thanks for the tips! I was trying to figure out what to use to polish the epoxy with after the final sand.
Thanks for the video! I was just working on a similar project and was having trouble trying to figure out how I was going to polish the epoxy and have a good finish on the wood. I'll give this method a try.
Hey, iv watched your channel a lot, you’ve given me so much advice, tips and tricks for my start up projects with wood working and resin pours, used Osmo for the first time on a project from your recommendation and it’s awesome! Keep up the good work man and thanks again Patch
@@BlacktailStudio Every time I tried to cut the buffing pad it was it was falling to shreds on edges. Those were hard to remove from the oil. Any tips how to handle?
Cam, just found your you tubes on my TV and have now spent hours watching. I love your work! I wish I was rich because I would fill my home with your tables, desks and such… just beautiful!! Carry on… ❤
Just want to say thank you. Your vids have been key in the making my first epoxy river table and really with no hiccups. Keep up the good work and thanks again
Hi Cam! Thank you for all your effort you pour into your videos! I am stuck - I flattened my Walnut and Liquid Glass resin table with a router sled, and sanded at 60 grit to take out router marks etc. I found the surface has hills and valleys though, high on the resin and the wood by it (denser wood I think) and lower in some soft wood spots near it. I spent MANY MANY hours trying to sand this out with minimal results. How can I prevent this on the next one? (And less importantly how can I fix it?) If anyone else has comments too please do share your insight :)
this channel is way more humble than black forest wood co. the guys there are posting about prices of tables, epoxy, tools. even the price of the client's mansion. i'm glad i found this humble channel
@@BlacktailStudio keep up the good work mate. i think dylan of black forest is very annoying. he claims he invented resin pouring in tables. thats just BS! by the way do you know where can i buy reasonable priced epoxy in the philippines?
Don't take this wrong. I love you man.... I don't know what it is, but I love watching your vids. Maybe the way you talk like a regular guy. Maybe the grounded approach to us - the viewer. Maybe the absolute absence of arrogance. I don't know, maybe all of those things. Thank you for the effort you put into helping us all get better at this. Be well, and I wish you the most success you can get!
It is great and recommendetto use the wax cleaner only on osmo as I understand the wax cleaner (which I give to my clients) will not dissolve any wax or oils and in fact will continue to build the finish. Great job Cam as usual! 👊🏻
I have watched your videos at least a zillion times, and they are all fantastic! I just finished a dining table (40" x 66" x 2") with olivewood cookies cut in half and black epoxy. Sanded the wood to 600 grit and the epoxy to 800 grit, no scratches or pigtails. I used Osmo 3043, which I had used previously on a river table that looks great, but this time the finish is very uneven and streaky. After drying overnight I sanded with 600 grit and applied another coat. It is smoother to the touch but still very uneven and streaky/splotchy. I am at a loss as to how to recover this (expensive) table! I ordered the Osmo liquid wax cleaner that you recommended but I don't think that is a fix for this. The Osmo rep said at this point to sand only to 320 on the wood and maybe 400 on the epoxy, and try another coat. Any thoughts?
Blacktail Studio Bingo!c Bingo, you were right on the money, too much Osmo! I sanded again to 400 on the whole table then to 600 on the epoxy, applied a thin coat and it looks great. Final kiss with Liquid Wax cleaner and it looks awesome! Thanks!
hi... I've been watching and enjoying your videos, as a new woodworker, almost exclusively working with black walnut here in the Portland area. I've been watching videos from everybody, and really learning a lot. Your videos are exceptional in the genre, and I seek them out. Everything is very plain-spoken and understandable...really sharing your craft. I looked below at one of the comments about buffing pads, and I notice(in addition to a great common-sense answer) that you respond to so many comments. Just want to say thanks
I'm enjoying using your methods and materials on a 3x5 cherry table top and got to 220 (Festool Brilliant 2 is what I have right now) when I noticed pigtails in some places that wouldn't easily come out w/ 220. I obviously hadn't got them out with 180 (must have missed them w/ the light) so went back to 150 (Festool Granat). That did it but kept introducing more pigtails at the edges of the area I was sanding, regardless of speed. When I tipped the sander (Festool 150) a little, which I never do, I could get the pigtails w/o introducing more. But when I switched to 180 (Brilliant again), it worked well, sander flat, etc., didn't take long to clean up the pigtails and didn't leave any new ones. Also, I tried the very low setting on by Festool CT and it really left a lot of dust (16 hole paper) so I turned it up until it extracted more of the dust. Just fwiw observations. This sanding approach seems very productive.
Cam, this video has upped my game significantly! I've always put a lot of time and effort into sanding my final products, but never really getting to a professional looking finish like this. I had no idea how much sanding dust marred the surface until I watched this video. I'm in awe of how your simple process yields such outstanding results. I went out and bought a bosch sander (you recommended that as a decent sander that's relatively cheap in your blog, I think). Also got Klingspoor sandpaper and voila! It's amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge. I've subscribed and gone through many of your videos and blog entries. Great stuff!
Used your vids to make my first river table. Made lots of mistakes. Would do things a bit differently next time. But your vids are the bomb and helped so much - thanks!
Ken i watch your video ay goby with your students.i really wish i lived in the us.im from south africa.hats off and big respect for what you do and the tables you produce.like i said on another video im a late starter and will work hard to get to know my stuff.awsome
Wow truly stunning. What a craftsmen you are. I'm a site carpenter by trade. Iv been thinking about moving over to this area of wood working. Amazing stuff sir
This video couldn't have been uploaded at a better time. Just got chewed out at work for "pigtails." 😭 Nobody knew why they happened though. I'll slow my pace down and try wiping the dust away next time. How much pressure do you apply when sanding? Love your work and your videos. Thank you so kindly for sharing.
Hi Cam! Very helpful video. I went direct to Klingspor where they have sampler packs of sanding discs; 5 each of all the grits. This is a really good way to get all the grits without buying a box of 50-100 in the same grit. I did tell them I learned about their product from your video.
I love this video! Thanks for making it. I’m yet to make my first table, but when I do I want to be able to fee the wood, not a flood coat of expoxy. This is just what I’m looking for :)
OK Cam, You have some responsibility here. 😄 After watching hours and hours your youtube clips I finally tried it myself. I made quite a few beginner mistakes, my white oak was too thin and too warped, some of the tape stayed on during demolding. Nothing dramatic so far, it seemed that I could fix all of it. 🙂 I however had 3 mishaps that are biting me back during finishing. And its all related to the black epoxy. First it seems my sanding has been below par, I still see some marks of the router flattening in the black epoxy (not so dramatic but still). Second flaw, my table was not perfectly flat when pouring, so I had to do a final small pour to get the hight of the epoxy even on all side. I colored my epoxy to deep black (I am using a gel not and ink), it seems that the two blacks are slightly off, the difference is quite noticable between both blacks. Third flaw, And I hate myself for this, I cut the wood to size with my plunge saw, all works fine. There is however a big build-up of slivers of sawn epoxy in my saw (I was not aware). I finish my last cut and put the saw down on the table on the black epoxy. AND YES HELP, saw was still spinning, epoxy blocked the spring of my plunge saw. 🤕🤒Result a 1 cm chunk out of the black epoxy right in the middle. Tried to fix this with, some black epoxy (you see the color diff), black superglue (same result). Would be great if you have some tips 😇, Problem one is probably fixable by redoing the sanding. However 2 and 3 no clue, I was thinking to paint with a thin coat of blacl epoxy and sand all over again. I do have to be carefull because I have sapwood on the sides that loves sucking up the black color.
@@BlacktailStudio Hey stud, quick question....the CA glue and activator... Is the CA glue transparent when covered by epoxy seal coats? Would you fill all voids including "dimples", and would you do after a seal coat or two but before flood coat? Thanks!!!
nice project love from INDIA I Wooden City Interior furniture store in Dehradun I sir like your all videos and lean thanks for sharing such a valuable art 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Love your tables and work. Here is a short video question (video so you can see the project) about finish hardness and a high use table I am building out of a tree I cut down. Your advice is much appreciated.
Few sanding questions. 1) When in the sanding process do you round the edges with a trim router?...as in After x grit but Before Y grit and where do you start and end with grits for the rounded edges and do you do it by hand or use a pad or mould/radius tool? Assume you’re used a nice new/sharp radius bit in your trim router. 2) For wood fresh out of a planer with a new helical shelix head...smooth but with those tiny scallops...what grit do you like to start with? 3) Have a Festool finishing sander (125 I think) and a Rotex 150...at what grit would you switch to the finishing sander? It has a smaller orbital motion. Thanks! Watched almost every one of your videos and like your approach and thought process.
Your tutorial is awesome, love the work you do and the detail you go to, for us wood working wanna bees its inspirational, keep it up and I'll keep watching, cheers.
Great video, always good lessons from you. I am close to finishing a table which will be my first commission. The client chose oil based polyurethane. Which I think is a better more durable finish. But very hard to do in a wood shop. Osmo excels at being easy in a dusty shop. .
Love your videos and your channel. Very helpful information for us beginners. My Question…do you have any tips/tricks when you sand the sides of your pieces? I find it difficult to keep an even sand on my edges. I haven’t found a great video yet that speaks to sanding the edges properly. Most just say…”don’t forget your edges”. Thanks!
Just watching this video right now, I’m a paint/body guy and I was wondering if you’ve ever tried wet sanding the wood/epoxy? For car applications it clears the paper clogs better on gummy substrates instead of constantly blowing paper clean. You can use a squeegee to wipe the water off to check your scratches instead of trying to dry it with a rag.
I really like your work.... Please record as much as you can on your 3" table build please.... I'm interested in seeing how you over come the pitting & voids in such a thick table..... Thx again.... Love the vids...👍👍👍
Well, thanks for the great instructional videos. I've spent enough of my life watching UA-cam videos on River tables. It's time to take a crack at it myself. Going to do a redwood outdoor table. This table will be sitting under a patio, so very little direct sunlight and no rain will reach it. Do you feel like the finish you describe in this video would hold up outdoors in that condition? Thanks, Gary
Great video! I just finished laying down my first coat of Osmo using your techniques and all went well with one minor hiccup. I poured the osmo on the table and spread it out to near the edges since I didn’t want drips on the side and came back with a buffer to rub it all over. Literally within the 1 minutes I was spreading the osmo around, it left a darker line around the border of the table where the finish initially stopped and it would not buff even. I’ve had this happen with Rubio before and just learned to spread fast and all over. Anything I’m missing with Osmo or is this just the nature of the beast?
Just found your channel. This is fascinating. I have really enjoyed all of them that I have seen so far and have learned quite a bit. Thank you for doing this!
First off, thanks for all your great content and tips. Secondly, I have recently started small epoxy projects (cutting boards) to get the hang of the process so I am not ruining something like a large table. You mention to use a light to make sure you get all the pig tails out but honestly I have no idea what the finished product is supposed to look like after 320 grit. Being pretty particular, I still see sanding marks in the epoxy but do not know if is supposed to 100% smooth or the pattern is normal. Thanks again!
Many craftsmen go up into the thousands in grits. I’m confused because you were highly successful only going up to 320 before the remainder of your finishing process. (Perhaps its that remaining process that eliminates the need to go beyond 320). Can you clarify? Much appreciated and THANK YOU for these videos! Very well done and informative.
Thanks SOO much for the tip about those pig tails! I've been having that problem for years and never could figure out why. If you do end up with those pig tails, what is the best way to remove them?
Sadly, the only way I have found for that is...sand again. Many times I have that problem when Im sanding wood that is rough and start with 80-grit sandpaper, followed by 100-grit. Sometimes the pigtails are made by the 80-grit sandpaper and I discover them when I finish with the 100-grit one, there's no other way than go back to the 80-grit and start again. However the tip on constantly wiping off the dust from the surface and the saner is one that I will try the next time to see what happens.
This is such a good reference video, I love the quality of your work and so I don't give a shit how other people do it, I wanna know how you do it to get the results that you get and so this content couldn't be more perfect! I was really hoping you would say I could skip a grit or two cuz that cubitron stuff ain't getting any cheaper but alas it is what it is... Looks like I better go order those boxes of 150/240 and just get over it.
Hey Cam. Love everything you do first off.. a true master! Quick question for you! Even when sanding at 600 grit between coats of osmo, I can’t seem to get a perfect uniform finish (slight, slight marks that just show unfortunately on black epoxy). I’ve gone as slow as possible and dust collect/wipe as best as I can. Any suggestions for me? Types of sand paper? Orbital sander itself? Just want to really nail that finish! Cheers, thanks again!
Hi ! Been watching your videos for a couple months, got me inspired to try my first coffee table. Very happy with the design and finish, however, my table warped ! (Slightly) i did finish both sides at the same time, but I let it dry on 4 plastic pyramids, as to not mess up the coat, which I think caused the warping. (Not sure). I now laid the table flat, fastened it down with weights and clamps, with a damp towel on top to try to flatten it. Will it work after a couple days ? Should I have let the table dry after the finish on a flat surface to begin with ? How to better prevent warping in the future, I pay very close attention to the details in your videos, but I still ended up messing it up. It s not too bad though. Anyway thanks for all the awesome content ! You're a real inspiration and a great teacher ! Big love from Montreal.
@@BlacktailStudio had to wait till break to watch 🤭 I swear watching your videos makes me feel I can accomplish what you do and then I have to remind myself I have no woodworking experience or tools 🤣 but it's how you explain things that totally draws me in and the quality of video 👌 you are one of my top favorite woodworkers 💯
Hey, awesome vid! It definitely helped, but I still cannot get the sanding marks out for the life of me. I sanded to 320 and no matter what pattern I use, how much I clean the dust, and how slow or fast I go, there are always lines still and im just not sure what to do. Im using odies oil to finish it, and I applied some to a small portion of the table to see if it hid the lines, but it just highlighted them even more, so if anyone could lend some advice, it’d be greatly appreciated!
This is a fantastic video loaded with tips!!! I absolutely loved every bit of it!! Thank you for sharing so much in one informative video! I have subscribed!
Thank for continuing to answer questions. I forgot at which point to do CA Glue. In the video you do it after sanding 100 grit but you also said “the last thing to do is..” so I am curious at what point to do the CA glue? Thanks.
I’m finishing up my first river table. I’m gonna use Rubio monocoat finish. I have a dewalt random orbit sander. What can I use with that sander to buff in the finish? Thanks again for all you content. It has helped me a lot
Cam, this is really helpful! One question: does the Osmo need to be reapplied at a certain point years down the road (if so, how long in your opinion?), or is the process you demonstrated intended to be one-and-done? Thank you in advance! -Joe
Cam,awesome videos.always enjoy them.sandpaper worth trying (I tried dozens&dozens over 25yrs.) cubitron2.i would put there paper up against any other for longevity&stock removal.
Hi. You really are an inspiration with your detailed work. I need your help about buffing a small table. I only have a 5 in DeWalt orbital sander which I intent to use. Can you please tell me what 3M buffing pad I must use with osmo top oil??
You said in your description that you do not use stain at all. If you were looking for a certain color aspect, would you advise using a stain before applying the Osmo?
I realize the video is a couple years old, but these are gorgeous. When considering a random orbital sander, any thoughts on 3mm vs 5mm stroke from Festool? My old RO is due for an upgrade.
Hi Cam, do find the orbital buffer helpful when using an oil varnish finish, like the Maloof finish, or have you worked it only with osmo or Monocoat flooring finishes? this is an awesome reference video and I learned a lot - thank you!
Cam! Amigo! Love what you do. Videos are so educational and entertaining. I'm kind of addicted. However, I must say - Stop! Stop saying you are not a real woodworker. You are. If you say, "I'm not a carpenter" or "I'm not a cabinet maker," that's OK. Your audience will also accept "I didn't start out doing woodwork." But you are a beast. I think the fact that you've done with UA-cam has also enhanced your skill level because you are analyzing, reviewing, explaining and continually fine-tuning your process for your videos. Keep up the great work - but without the Imposter Syndrome. You are a woodworker.
Glad I found your video. Excellent description of each step in the process.......and NO annoying music! Thanks for a great tutorial.
This is a valuable addition to my woodwork collection ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO I still will rate this woodwork plan as the best in my reference library. It always seem to stand out from the rest whenever you go through the library. This is a masterpiece.
Awesome tutorial, I also build epoxy tables and the educational value of this is priceless, your patience and attention to detail is admirable, on top of which you made a video longer than 10 minutes with zero background music that didn't bore me at all, I wish my narrating skills were to come close
Wow, thanks man
Cam is the new E.F. Hutton... When cam talks people listen! 😎
I was having a really tough time removing the osmo with the orbital and white 3m pad. So, what I did was 2 coats of 1101 osmo on top of the 320 grit sanded table. Then 2 coats 3043 osmo no sanding between. sanded with 600 really well after those 2 coats, blew off with air compressor and wiped with blue shop rags, then 2 more coats osmo 3043 no with no sanding in between. I buff in the osmo with the orbital and white pad really well and then buff EVERYTHING off with clean shop rags BY HAND until it is silky smooth. This worked really nice for me. Smooth, no streaks, no swirls, and nice sheen. Hope this helps anyone with similar troubles. Great vid cam!
Cheers!
You are God with what you do. Your teaching is highly appreciated. God bless you and your family.
Thank you for showing your mistakes as well as successes. I have made a few projects and always got disappointed when mistakes get made. One thing learned is not whether mistakes get made, but how they are dealt with determines the level of craftsmanship. Thanks for showing your level of craftsmanship.
Absolutely agree!
Hey Guy, you have one of the Best Woodworking Channels on UA-cam, thanks for all that you do.
Wow, I appreciate that Rodney!
I refinished a table recently and got a lot of squirly marks from a cheap 1/4 sheet sander. I decided to leave them as the tables veneer was to thin, and I only caused more marks trying to remove the first marks. They were so light I did not see them til I started staining. Thanks to you I now know it was my sanding speed that caused them, and I can on my next project remember that.
The reason you don't want to skip grits is that the sandpaper is essentially making little scratches in the surface. If you skip grits, the higher grits can't make deep enough scratches to remove the scratches from much lower grits. (Picked up that tidbit from auto detail channels)
Well said 👍🏼
Man, I’ve seen your content for years and went back and watched this and something about it was SO informative. Your new finishing videos are really solid, don’t get me wrong, but you managed to answer every random, specific question I had in this one.
Cheers from Colorado, thanks for the good content
I'm grateful for all the hard won information you packed into this. Beautiful work!
Much appreciated chip!
Thanks for this video. Very very helpful for someone who’s experienced in woodworking, but not finishing epoxy tables. Many of my questions answered here!
"You don't have to use the ($600) Festool.. I've heard Mirka ($600) makes a good sander." Good advice.
😂 right? I you really should use a very nice sander for this stuff though. I was more saying that it wasn’t an ad for Festool.
samjade I was going to say
😭😭😭
What stroke does your sanders have 5 or 3 mm?
There isn't ANYTHING that makes any difference in sanding ability except how long the tool is gonna last or how nice the tool looks. An orbital sander is an orbital sander unless the bearings are going out in it... 🤦🤦 dont fool people into thinking they have to buy a $600 sander to "sand better" 🤣 $40 sanders do just as good working on $4000 black epoxy tables and I prove it regularly.
Probably the most helpful video of all, I think one of the biggest challenges is getting that professional finish after all the hard work of building it. Thanks Cam
I appreciate you saying so
I would like to know about that nice looking plastic box you have for your sanding disks , Do you have other video on your epoxy do and don'ts and how you clean that nice looking buffer
"I would like to know about that nice looking plastic box ..."
Did you click show more, then try reading?
I used your tips to finish up some coasters I made with wood I found on a beach. Having stumbled upon your videos way before I started this project I'd had an itch to experiment with epoxy and this was an easy/cheap way to get my feet wet! Thanks for the tips! I was trying to figure out what to use to polish the epoxy with after the final sand.
Can use any of my finish methods!
Gorgeous tables!!! The tips and advice are greatly appreciated! Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for the video! I was just working on a similar project and was having trouble trying to figure out how I was going to polish the epoxy and have a good finish on the wood. I'll give this method a try.
Well explained video my friend! I like it. This was helpful for me!
Excellent!
Thank you because you helped my mom's work
Hey, iv watched your channel a lot, you’ve given me so much advice, tips and tricks for my start up projects with wood working and resin pours, used Osmo for the first time on a project from your recommendation and it’s awesome! Keep up the good work man and thanks again
Patch
How much do you rate Festool sanders Cam? I’m really thinking about getting one but wanted your opinion?
Charlie Sheen approves. Winning!
Great job with the photography and verbal. Thanks for sharing your experience with us and for not having any irritating music.
My pleasure Dale!
Can you or anyone recommend a buffing pad that I can use on my random orbital sander? I have a 5” Makita. Thanks. Great video!!!
I just cut a square one for my orbitals. Doesn’t have to fit
@@BlacktailStudio Every time I tried to cut the buffing pad it was it was falling to shreds on edges. Those were hard to remove from the oil. Any tips how to handle?
Cam, just found your you tubes on my TV and have now spent hours watching. I love your work! I wish I was rich because I would fill my home with your tables, desks and such… just beautiful!! Carry on… ❤
Just want to say thank you. Your vids have been key in the making my first epoxy river table and really with no hiccups. Keep up the good work and thanks again
Thanks michael!
Hi Cam! Thank you for all your effort you pour into your videos!
I am stuck - I flattened my Walnut and Liquid Glass resin table with a router sled, and sanded at 60 grit to take out router marks etc. I found the surface has hills and valleys though, high on the resin and the wood by it (denser wood I think) and lower in some soft wood spots near it. I spent MANY MANY hours trying to sand this out with minimal results. How can I prevent this on the next one? (And less importantly how can I fix it?)
If anyone else has comments too please do share your insight :)
This is about my 12th straight video from this channel all in the one sitting. Great content! Kudos!
Welcome Chris!
this channel is way more humble than black forest wood co. the guys there are posting about prices of tables, epoxy, tools. even the price of the client's mansion. i'm glad i found this humble channel
Oh thanks. I do post prices sometimes. People badger us for that info pretty regularly regularly
@@BlacktailStudio keep up the good work mate. i think dylan of black forest is very annoying. he claims he invented resin pouring in tables. thats just BS! by the way do you know where can i buy reasonable priced epoxy in the philippines?
Don't take this wrong. I love you man.... I don't know what it is, but I love watching your vids.
Maybe the way you talk like a regular guy.
Maybe the grounded approach to us - the viewer.
Maybe the absolute absence of arrogance.
I don't know, maybe all of those things.
Thank you for the effort you put into helping us all get better at this.
Be well, and I wish you the most success you can get!
Not sure how I could take that wrong, unless it wasn’t a compliment… either way, thanks!
@@BlacktailStudio full blown compliment
It is great and recommendetto use the wax cleaner only on osmo as I understand the wax cleaner (which I give to my clients) will not dissolve any wax or oils and in fact will continue to build the finish. Great job Cam as usual! 👊🏻
Good to know!
Hi - UK fan of your channel, just starting my own journey in repurposing wood with resin.
Keep up the great work
I have watched your videos at least a zillion times, and they are all fantastic! I just finished a dining table (40" x 66" x 2") with olivewood cookies cut in half and black epoxy. Sanded the wood to 600 grit and the epoxy to 800 grit, no scratches or pigtails. I used Osmo 3043, which I had used previously on a river table that looks great, but this time the finish is very uneven and streaky. After drying overnight I sanded with 600 grit and applied another coat. It is smoother to the touch but still very uneven and streaky/splotchy. I am at a loss as to how to recover this (expensive) table! I ordered the Osmo liquid wax cleaner that you recommended but I don't think that is a fix for this. The Osmo rep said at this point to sand only to 320 on the wood and maybe 400 on the epoxy, and try another coat. Any thoughts?
Dang! Hard to say without being there. Might be using too much product?
Blacktail Studio Bingo!c
Bingo,
you were right on the money, too much Osmo! I sanded again to 400 on the whole table then to 600 on the epoxy, applied a thin coat and it looks great. Final kiss with Liquid Wax cleaner and it looks awesome! Thanks!
You do such beautiful work! Never lower your standards!
Thanks so much!
hi... I've been watching and enjoying your videos, as a new woodworker, almost exclusively working with black walnut here in the Portland area. I've been watching videos from everybody, and really learning a lot. Your videos are exceptional in the genre, and I seek them out. Everything is very plain-spoken and understandable...really sharing your craft. I looked below at one of the comments about buffing pads, and I notice(in addition to a great common-sense answer) that you respond to so many comments. Just want to say thanks
Oh wow, thanks so much for saying so
I'm enjoying using your methods and materials on a 3x5 cherry table top and got to 220 (Festool Brilliant 2 is what I have right now) when I noticed pigtails in some places that wouldn't easily come out w/ 220. I obviously hadn't got them out with 180 (must have missed them w/ the light) so went back to 150 (Festool Granat). That did it but kept introducing more pigtails at the edges of the area I was sanding, regardless of speed. When I tipped the sander (Festool 150) a little, which I never do, I could get the pigtails w/o introducing more. But when I switched to 180 (Brilliant again), it worked well, sander flat, etc., didn't take long to clean up the pigtails and didn't leave any new ones. Also, I tried the very low setting on by Festool CT and it really left a lot of dust (16 hole paper) so I turned it up until it extracted more of the dust. Just fwiw observations. This sanding approach seems very productive.
Can be tough for sure!
Cam, this video has upped my game significantly! I've always put a lot of time and effort into sanding my final products, but never really getting to a professional looking finish like this. I had no idea how much sanding dust marred the surface until I watched this video. I'm in awe of how your simple process yields such outstanding results. I went out and bought a bosch sander (you recommended that as a decent sander that's relatively cheap in your blog, I think). Also got Klingspoor sandpaper and voila! It's amazing. Thank you so much for sharing your valuable knowledge. I've subscribed and gone through many of your videos and blog entries. Great stuff!
Thanks!
Klingspor is the best I have ever used. Lasts a lot longer too.
Agreed!
Hi Mark from the UK..just like to say how much I enjoy all your videos and wish I could be as creative as you
Thanks mark! -Cam from Oregon
Used your vids to make my first river table. Made lots of mistakes. Would do things a bit differently next time. But your vids are the bomb and helped so much - thanks!
Well done! Only gets better from here
Ken i watch your video ay goby with your students.i really wish i lived in the us.im from south africa.hats off and big respect for what you do and the tables you produce.like i said on another video im a late starter and will work hard to get to know my stuff.awsome
Thanks Martin! And I’m jealous of your country
@@BlacktailStudio you need to live here and see whats going on.prices are crazy here especially when you have hobbies and passion.be blessed
Wow truly stunning. What a craftsmen you are. I'm a site carpenter by trade. Iv been thinking about moving over to this area of wood working. Amazing stuff sir
Well hit me up with any questions!
This video couldn't have been uploaded at a better time. Just got chewed out at work for "pigtails." 😭 Nobody knew why they happened though. I'll slow my pace down and try wiping the dust away next time. How much pressure do you apply when sanding?
Love your work and your videos. Thank you so kindly for sharing.
I’m glad the timing worked out for ya! Thanks for saying so.
Hi Cam! Very helpful video. I went direct to Klingspor where they have sampler packs of sanding discs; 5 each of all the grits. This is a really good way to get all the grits without buying a box of 50-100 in the same grit. I did tell them I learned about their product from your video.
Awesome!
Brilliant job. That thing looks so nice. Love the contrast of the black epoxy with that timber. Elegance for sure. Smashed the like button, as per!
I love this video! Thanks for making it. I’m yet to make my first table, but when I do I want to be able to fee the wood, not a flood coat of expoxy. This is just what I’m looking for :)
This is for you then!
OK Cam, You have some responsibility here. 😄
After watching hours and hours your youtube clips I finally tried it myself. I made quite a few beginner mistakes, my white oak was too thin and too warped, some of the tape stayed on during demolding. Nothing dramatic so far, it seemed that I could fix all of it. 🙂
I however had 3 mishaps that are biting me back during finishing. And its all related to the black epoxy.
First it seems my sanding has been below par, I still see some marks of the router flattening in the black epoxy (not so dramatic but still).
Second flaw, my table was not perfectly flat when pouring, so I had to do a final small pour to get the hight of the epoxy even on all side. I colored my epoxy to deep black (I am using a gel not and ink), it seems that the two blacks are slightly off, the difference is quite noticable between both blacks.
Third flaw, And I hate myself for this, I cut the wood to size with my plunge saw, all works fine. There is however a big build-up of slivers of sawn epoxy in my saw (I was not aware). I finish my last cut and put the saw down on the table on the black epoxy. AND YES HELP, saw was still spinning, epoxy blocked the spring of my plunge saw. 🤕🤒Result a 1 cm chunk out of the black epoxy right in the middle. Tried to fix this with, some black epoxy (you see the color diff), black superglue (same result).
Would be great if you have some tips 😇, Problem one is probably fixable by redoing the sanding. However 2 and 3 no clue, I was thinking to paint with a thin coat of blacl epoxy and sand all over again. I do have to be carefull because I have sapwood on the sides that loves sucking up the black color.
As always, a fantastic (and pragmatic) approach and tutorial. I appreciate so much your sharing your experience and expertise. THANK YOU!
Thanks bud!
@@BlacktailStudio Hey stud, quick question....the CA glue and activator... Is the CA glue transparent when covered by epoxy seal coats? Would you fill all voids including "dimples", and would you do after a seal coat or two but before flood coat? Thanks!!!
nice project love from INDIA I Wooden City Interior furniture store in Dehradun I sir like your all videos and lean thanks for sharing such a valuable art 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Love your tables and work. Here is a short video question (video so you can see the project) about finish hardness and a high use table I am building out of a tree I cut down. Your advice is much appreciated.
Didn’t see a video. Feel free to transcribe your question though
@@BlacktailStudio sorry...
ua-cam.com/video/YExTF2MdXCA/v-deo.html
Few sanding questions. 1) When in the sanding process do you round the edges with a trim router?...as in After x grit but Before Y grit and where do you start and end with grits for the rounded edges and do you do it by hand or use a pad or mould/radius tool? Assume you’re used a nice new/sharp radius bit in your trim router. 2) For wood fresh out of a planer with a new helical shelix head...smooth but with those tiny scallops...what grit do you like to start with? 3) Have a Festool finishing sander (125 I think) and a Rotex 150...at what grit would you switch to the finishing sander? It has a smaller orbital motion. Thanks! Watched almost every one of your videos and like your approach and thought process.
Both are absolutly beautiful
Thanks shaun!
👏👏👏. What's needed for the maintenance.
Your tutorial is awesome, love the work you do and the detail you go to, for us wood working wanna bees its inspirational, keep it up and I'll keep watching, cheers.
Thanks!!
Man I can get the slab to look great but I always seem to have pea sized spots on my epoxy if I buff until there is no swirls. Yours is amazing!
Dang!
Great video, always good lessons from you. I am close to finishing a table which will be my first commission. The client chose oil based polyurethane. Which I think is a better more durable finish. But very hard to do in a wood shop. Osmo excels at being easy in a dusty shop. .
You may be surprised with Osmo durability. Do some tests on your own. But make sure to let it cure for 3 weeks or so.
Beautiful and your photo and video skills are getting better all the time!
Working on it! Thanks for staying with me through the process Mike
Mirka disks are amazing never get no pigtails from the mesh sanding disks
Love your videos and your channel. Very helpful information for us beginners. My Question…do you have any tips/tricks when you sand the sides of your pieces? I find it difficult to keep an even sand on my edges. I haven’t found a great video yet that speaks to sanding the edges properly. Most just say…”don’t forget your edges”. Thanks!
Once again, another fantastic video and remarkable job on the table!! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks forest!
Just watching this video right now, I’m a paint/body guy and I was wondering if you’ve ever tried wet sanding the wood/epoxy? For car applications it clears the paper clogs better on gummy substrates instead of constantly blowing paper clean. You can use a squeegee to wipe the water off to check your scratches instead of trying to dry it with a rag.
I have done it a bit
I really like your work.... Please record as much as you can on your 3" table build please.... I'm interested in seeing how you over come the pitting & voids in such a thick table..... Thx again.... Love the vids...👍👍👍
I’ll see what I can do for ya!
The best vids!! Can’t wait to finish my coffee table project
Awesome!
This is great. Love your content, such a great mix of creativity and practical advice. Thank you for sharing.
Great video Cam, excellent information and I even learned a lot about what mistakes I'm making while finishing haha.
Ha! Thanks Trevor (I assume). Happy to help a little. Feel free to share it, it was an ecopoxy table 👍🏼
@@BlacktailStudio That's me :) I think I will! We answer tons of finishing questions and like to be as educated as possible on them 👊🏻
Really great video. Thanks for making this one.
Thanks for sharing & one of the best I have seen. You make it very understandable and learnfull for me as I am learning. Thanks again!!
super interesting, any thoughts on the best approach for finishing a table that will be outside on a deck?
Oh, just be prepared for it to take a beating
Well, thanks for the great instructional videos. I've spent enough of my life watching UA-cam videos on River tables. It's time to take a crack at it myself. Going to do a redwood outdoor table. This table will be sitting under a patio, so very little direct sunlight and no rain will reach it. Do you feel like the finish you describe in this video would hold up outdoors in that condition?
Thanks, Gary
Probably not great outdoors. But outdoor finish is so hard in general
Great video! I just finished laying down my first coat of Osmo using your techniques and all went well with one minor hiccup. I poured the osmo on the table and spread it out to near the edges since I didn’t want drips on the side and came back with a buffer to rub it all over. Literally within the 1 minutes I was spreading the osmo around, it left a darker line around the border of the table where the finish initially stopped and it would not buff even. I’ve had this happen with Rubio before and just learned to spread fast and all over. Anything I’m missing with Osmo or is this just the nature of the beast?
I’ve had that happen too. Sucks. But ya, spread it around faster.
Just found your channel. This is fascinating. I have really enjoyed all of them that I have seen so far and have learned quite a bit. Thank you for doing this!
First off, thanks for all your great content and tips. Secondly, I have recently started small epoxy projects (cutting boards) to get the hang of the process so I am not ruining something like a large table. You mention to use a light to make sure you get all the pig tails out but honestly I have no idea what the finished product is supposed to look like after 320 grit. Being pretty particular, I still see sanding marks in the epoxy but do not know if is supposed to 100% smooth or the pattern is normal. Thanks again!
You still see scratches. Just should look uniform with no pigtails
Many craftsmen go up into the thousands in grits. I’m confused because you were highly successful only going up to 320 before the remainder of your finishing process. (Perhaps its that remaining process that eliminates the need to go beyond 320). Can you clarify? Much appreciated and THANK YOU for these videos! Very well done and informative.
Thanks SOO much for the tip about those pig tails! I've been having that problem for years and never could figure out why.
If you do end up with those pig tails, what is the best way to remove them?
Sadly, the only way I have found for that is...sand again. Many times I have that problem when Im sanding wood that is rough and start with 80-grit sandpaper, followed by 100-grit. Sometimes the pigtails are made by the 80-grit sandpaper and I discover them when I finish with the 100-grit one, there's no other way than go back to the 80-grit and start again. However the tip on constantly wiping off the dust from the surface and the saner is one that I will try the next time to see what happens.
This is such a good reference video, I love the quality of your work and so I don't give a shit how other people do it, I wanna know how you do it to get the results that you get and so this content couldn't be more perfect! I was really hoping you would say I could skip a grit or two cuz that cubitron stuff ain't getting any cheaper but alas it is what it is... Looks like I better go order those boxes of 150/240 and just get over it.
Hey Cam. Love everything you do first off.. a true master! Quick question for you! Even when sanding at 600 grit between coats of osmo, I can’t seem to get a perfect uniform finish (slight, slight marks that just show unfortunately on black epoxy). I’ve gone as slow as possible and dust collect/wipe as best as I can. Any suggestions for me? Types of sand paper? Orbital sander itself? Just want to really nail that finish! Cheers, thanks again!
Hi ! Been watching your videos for a couple months, got me inspired to try my first coffee table. Very happy with the design and finish, however, my table warped ! (Slightly) i did finish both sides at the same time, but I let it dry on 4 plastic pyramids, as to not mess up the coat, which I think caused the warping. (Not sure).
I now laid the table flat, fastened it down with weights and clamps, with a damp towel on top to try to flatten it. Will it work after a couple days ? Should I have let the table dry after the finish on a flat surface to begin with ? How to better prevent warping in the future, I pay very close attention to the details in your videos, but I still ended up messing it up. It s not too bad though.
Anyway thanks for all the awesome content ! You're a real inspiration and a great teacher ! Big love from Montreal.
Thank you so much for all the content , Had really helped me finish my first piece
Awesome work! You are an inspiration 👏👏👏
Thanks!
I am a big fan of your work I always enjoy the quality of your videos and the narration 👌💯 awesome job
You're usually my first comment Marco! I must have posted early this time. Thanks as always.
@@BlacktailStudio had to wait till break to watch 🤭 I swear watching your videos makes me feel I can accomplish what you do and then I have to remind myself I have no woodworking experience or tools 🤣 but it's how you explain things that totally draws me in and the quality of video 👌 you are one of my top favorite woodworkers 💯
Marco Velez well I’m gonna keep going till I’ll #1 then 🙏
Hey, awesome vid! It definitely helped, but I still cannot get the sanding marks out for the life of me. I sanded to 320 and no matter what pattern I use, how much I clean the dust, and how slow or fast I go, there are always lines still and im just not sure what to do. Im using odies oil to finish it, and I applied some to a small portion of the table to see if it hid the lines, but it just highlighted them even more, so if anyone could lend some advice, it’d be greatly appreciated!
This is a fantastic video loaded with tips!!! I absolutely loved every bit of it!! Thank you for sharing so much in one informative video! I have subscribed!
Thanks Michael! Let me know if you need anything else
Thank for continuing to answer questions. I forgot at which point to do CA Glue. In the video you do it after sanding 100 grit but you also said “the last thing to do is..” so I am curious at what point to do the CA glue? Thanks.
I’ll start at 100 grit, but will keep touching spots up as they come sanding through the grits
You are one of my go to channels! Could you give some detail on the sandpaper you recommend? Thanks
Klingspor is good
I'm from Australia. Love your work
Awesome!
I’m finishing up my first river table. I’m gonna use Rubio monocoat finish. I have a dewalt random orbit sander. What can I use with that sander to buff in the finish? Thanks again for all you content. It has helped me a lot
Cut up one of these white pads
Cam, this is really helpful!
One question: does the Osmo need to be reapplied at a certain point years down the road (if so, how long in your opinion?), or is the process you demonstrated intended to be one-and-done?
Thank you in advance! -Joe
Great,and relaxing video ! Thanks
Thank you very much really amazing finish🎉
Cam,awesome videos.always enjoy them.sandpaper worth trying (I tried dozens&dozens over 25yrs.) cubitron2.i would put there paper up against any other for longevity&stock removal.
I’ll try it!
Excellent work and very clear and derailed explanation !! I like your projects so far, can't wait to see more :)
Gorgeous table!
Hi. You really are an inspiration with your detailed work. I need your help about buffing a small table. I only have a 5 in DeWalt orbital sander which I intent to use. Can you please tell me what 3M buffing pad I must use with osmo top oil??
You have Inspired Me to do Epoxy tables. Just have to get my shop built. LOL
Just that little part
Incredible finish and super helpful video! Is your process for sanding the sides of the table the same ?
Thanks, and yep!
Can you recommend a less expensive buffer/polisher and similar pad to the 3M one in your links that will fit on the buffer?
You said in your description that you do not use stain at all. If you were looking for a certain color aspect, would you advise using a stain before applying the Osmo?
I realize the video is a couple years old, but these are gorgeous. When considering a random orbital sander, any thoughts on 3mm vs 5mm stroke from Festool? My old RO is due for an upgrade.
Hi Cam, do find the orbital buffer helpful when using an oil varnish finish, like the Maloof finish, or have you worked it only with osmo or Monocoat flooring finishes?
this is an awesome reference video and I learned a lot - thank you!
this is the amazing one, the pest !!
Cam! Amigo! Love what you do. Videos are so educational and entertaining. I'm kind of addicted. However, I must say - Stop! Stop saying you are not a real woodworker. You are. If you say, "I'm not a carpenter" or "I'm not a cabinet maker," that's OK. Your audience will also accept "I didn't start out doing woodwork." But you are a beast. I think the fact that you've done with UA-cam has also enhanced your skill level because you are analyzing, reviewing, explaining and continually fine-tuning your process for your videos. Keep up the great work - but without the Imposter Syndrome. You are a woodworker.