Biggest wood staining mistakes and misconceptions | Wood staining BASICS

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  • Achieving great results when staining wood is easy if you avoid a few basic mistakes. Hey, are you new to woodworking and don't know where to begin? Building the BMW (Basic Mobile Workbench) is a great way to start! FREE PLANS ► theweekendwoodworker.com/bmw/ No experience necessary and you'll just need a few basic tools.
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  • @ebesel
    @ebesel 5 років тому +2078

    One important thing that was not mentioned is that rags used for most staining projects must be disposed of properly as they are exothermic (generate their own heat) when they dry and can be a fire hazard. Placing them in a metal container with a lid or in a plastic bucket partially filled with water is safest. As a 20 year Fire Investigator, I cannot count the number of fires I have been to where staining rags were the source of ignition.

    • @rwind656
      @rwind656 5 років тому +22

      @ebesel, we usually hang them outside to dry in the sun before discarding.. Outside even if it is raining. Please, is this wrong?
      But if using paoer towels and stain, those are usually dry very quickly and discarded in trash can if dry. Is this safe? TY!

    • @ebesel
      @ebesel 5 років тому +98

      @@rwind656 Using a metal container with a lid is safest imo, and it is the method I use when doing staining projects at home. Drying them outside on a line should be ok, but they need to be watched and kept away from other combustibles, just in case. An exothermic reaction can begin (or continue) several hours after the project is complete, so I always let the rags sit in the metal container for at least 24 hours before doing anything with them. The two big DONT's are: 1.) Don't wad the rags up and drop them on the floor or in a corner when finished, and 2.) don't put them in the garbage for at lest 24 hours after they are dry. (even paper towels)

    • @Arch3an
      @Arch3an 5 років тому +52

      I remember It was hard to even imagine this happens. Before I started woodworking a few years ago, I had no idea it was even possible, since I was self taught.
      Thank you for posting this. It's good to see this getting mentioned, and hope people see this post and prevent it. I don't know if it's just me, but I don't think this gets mentioned as much as it should be.
      It's an incredibly easy mistake to make, but also incredibly easy to prevent at the same time. I think that's what made it so scary to me, so I forced myself to make it into a habit to prevent it.

    • @ans05
      @ans05 5 років тому +5

      I've seen too many floor guess catch stuff on fire this way!!

    • @bobd5119
      @bobd5119 5 років тому +9

      @@rwind656 I do that, too. Several days (OK, weeks, even...) of exposure to open air, sunlight, rain, snow, and wind-blown debris render oily rags comatose.
      I think the issue is linseed oil, but a web search might turn up other culprits.

  • @HouseholdDog
    @HouseholdDog 4 роки тому +1875

    When you have oak tastes but a pine budget. Stain is the answer.

    • @marikiemarie7622
      @marikiemarie7622 4 роки тому +13

      I can't stand oak. Pine stains better and for some reason, I don't have bowing or warping with pine..

    • @magnusruud
      @magnusruud 4 роки тому +55

      @@marikiemarie7622 It's not that I don't believe you, but I can't really understand that. In my experience it is the complete oposite.
      I work at a lumber/wood store and the three types of wood that we stock are spruce, pine and white oak. What I have learned is that when it comes to warping/bowing is that spruce is the worst, turn your back on it for 5 minutes and it's a corkscrew. Pine is a bit better but not by much. White oak is the best material to work with of the three in my opinion. It pretty muck doesn't warp at all and if it does it's only a fraction of what pine does.

    • @StockAL3Xj
      @StockAL3Xj 4 роки тому +32

      @@marikiemarie7622 I couldn't disagree more. I think most woodworkers would agree that pine is one of the most difficult woods to stain. It's uneven density leads to blotchiness and it has a relatively high oil content.

    • @badoit44
      @badoit44 4 роки тому +3

      you killed me man! :-)

    • @Gman831gt
      @Gman831gt 3 роки тому +14

      Just bought a bunch of oak as a first project... Had no idea how expensive it actually was. Expected 50-80$ project got 300$

  • @ericaroberts3919
    @ericaroberts3919 4 роки тому +148

    OOH! Also - you mentioned that you avoid mixing water and oil-based products. I'm a professional (fine art) oil painter. You can always apply oils on top of water-based mediums but never water-based over oil-based. In oil painting, it's called the "fat over lean" rule and you follow it in order to avoid texture problems like cracking/clumps that result from the bottom layer curing more slowly than the top layer dries. I'm probably explaining things you already know but I always want to enable cool people to do cool things! ~Thanks for the best channel on UA-cam!!

    • @ericmk4021
      @ericmk4021 3 роки тому +7

      Late on this... but that's not always the norm. With wood stains and finishes, you in fact can put water-based over the top of oil-bases. I've put water-based finishes over oil-based stains and finishes with no issues as long as you know how to apply properly. But yes in general thats a good guideline to adhere to.

    • @BarneyGumbl3
      @BarneyGumbl3 3 роки тому +2

      Good rule of thumb, thanks for the tip

    • @drewnorth8985
      @drewnorth8985 3 роки тому +5

      Fine art and wood are probably 2 different things...you can do water over oil if the label says its okay.

    • @kraziecatclady
      @kraziecatclady 2 роки тому +1

      I have used water based polyurethane over oil based stain several times and never had a problem with it. You just have to make sure the stain has had plenty of time to dry. I don't particularly like the water based polyurethane though because it takes a lot more coats to get a very nice high shine. I only use it if I ran out of the oil based or am working on something that might have contact with food. I made a box to store nuts in and wanted to make sure no one got sick if anything managed to get through the shells of the nuts because I wasn't sure if the oil based stuff could cause that kind of a hazard and the natural options can wear off with time, so I didn't want the person who I was giving them to needing to do that kind of maintenance on my gift.

    • @antennawilde
      @antennawilde 2 роки тому +1

      'Fat over lean' refers to thinning down the first coat to penetrate the wood, then adding additional coats without dilution for protective and finish effects.

  • @kensmith2822
    @kensmith2822 5 років тому +33

    Steve I'd just like to thank you. I stumbled on your videos about 5 years ago. As someone who has always wanted a shop and was always interested in woodworking you made it seem so doable. I picked up a few inexpensive tools and just started messing around making boxes and what not. I now have a shop full of tools and I cherish every moment I get to spend out there. So much of my current happiness has come from those first few videos of yours. You've literally changed my life. Thank you!

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +13

      Oh wow, that is so cool. I really appreciate hearing that, Ken. Thanks a bunch and keep building!

  • @vickyiannucci6630
    @vickyiannucci6630 5 років тому +12

    As someone just getting into woodworking I find your videos easy to understand & SOOO informative. Thank you!!!

  • @TheGrantAlexander
    @TheGrantAlexander 5 років тому +8

    Great tip, I will be sharing this with my clients when they ask to apply the stain themselves. Often they don't understand the wood conditioning part and you video demonstrated that perfectly!

  • @Cheticus
    @Cheticus 5 років тому +11

    I'm new to woodworking. I came back from staining something downstairs. Figured I was done. I saw this and instantly clicked it. I watched the video, grabbed an old tee shirt rag and wiped down what I stained. Thanks Steve. You're the man.

  • @jovo9000
    @jovo9000 8 місяців тому +13

    I had no idea or direction for what I wanted to do with my life as a young man. I discovered Steve Ramsey on youtube years ago and tried my hand making some furniture. His videos introduced me to all the power tools I needed and explained how to safely use them. 7 years on I am now a ticketed carpenter with a small cabinet making business. THANK YOU STEVE

    • @4UnlimitedBEing
      @4UnlimitedBEing 6 місяців тому

      Now that is an AWESOME testimonial! Congrats, man! *high fives*🖐
      Do you have your own channel now where folks can follow your progress & see your amazing skills at work?

  • @azashukri5322
    @azashukri5322 5 років тому +77

    Hey Steve, as a long time subscriber, I would like to thank you for all the great videos you’ve done over the years, they are truely inspirational and always a joy to watch.

    • @Ariesphoenix1
      @Ariesphoenix1 4 роки тому

      Aza Shukri just found the channel & I wholeheartedly agree with you!! He’s been great!

    • @wvp07
      @wvp07 Рік тому

      He’s like the uncle whose garage you liked spending your summers in.

  • @johngaltline9933
    @johngaltline9933 5 років тому +59

    I usually clean projects with mineral spirts before staining, and this has the same effect as using a pre conditioner, filling the most absorbent fibers, as well as removing dust quite well.

  • @antonm8719
    @antonm8719 Рік тому

    Steve is amazing. Positive, straight to the point and just the right balance on all sides. What an amazing discovery!

  • @davidboston7943
    @davidboston7943 5 років тому

    Perfect timing! I'm teaching a friend some woodworking by doing a picture frame. We picked up supplies this evening including a can of stain, since he wanted a dark-looking wood, but I cautioned him against the expense of walnut for a first project. Thanks for the tips and tricks!

  • @christofix
    @christofix 5 років тому +4

    thank you for sharing your experiences. I love videos like this where you can learn from each other

  • @FearsomeWarrior
    @FearsomeWarrior 5 років тому +15

    You're killin' it Steve. Love seeing you keep on going after so long. Your positivity really helps people wanna jump in.

  • @kcmabel4440
    @kcmabel4440 Рік тому

    I’ve watched so many videos of people just not going to the pony, trying to sell you things, by far the best video I’ve seen. To the point, clear, full of knowledge. Thank you sir

  • @MikeTheMaker1
    @MikeTheMaker1 5 років тому +2

    I’m so glad we have steve to set us straight and give us the mere mortals the best advice.

  • @ericaroberts3919
    @ericaroberts3919 4 роки тому +56

    The "with" and "without wood conditioner" pics blew my mind. I feel like I can finally try staining/ natural finishes now! -Thanks Steve! :)

    • @SR98889
      @SR98889 4 роки тому

      Erica Roberts me too! I’m getting me some wood conditioner!

    • @infinitydreamzz
      @infinitydreamzz 3 роки тому +1

      I like without conditioner more. Looks more natural and raw

  • @aceventura3935
    @aceventura3935 2 роки тому +15

    Seriously , im so grateful for your channel ! The time and effort your taking just to teach us newbies, people like you are why a craft carries on
    Great video
    Short and sweet but very clean and informative and not confusing
    Right on brother !

    • @tiagomartinho77
      @tiagomartinho77 5 місяців тому

      You do realize the time and effort is not "just to teach us" its his job, almost 2M subs, he makes a sh/t big load of money with every video. Hes richer every day, making more money in a month than you probably make all year 👍

    • @aceventura3935
      @aceventura3935 5 місяців тому

      @@tiagomartinho77 you do realize that he doesn't have to do that , (as many UA-camrs don't ) and still make big coin , and what if it's both , making $ and helping ppl , either way I got something from this video and therefore said thanks , just cuz he's making money (however much ) still I learned soo..

  • @ChiefMoonChunks
    @ChiefMoonChunks 5 років тому +2

    staining and finishing projects were one of the most intimidating things for me as a starting woodworker - I was so afraid to ruin my creations by using the wrong method or doing it improperly. this is a great video for anybody trying to figure out what's right for their projects.

  • @charcoalanderson8010
    @charcoalanderson8010 Рік тому

    THANK YOU SO MUCH! I just made a whitewood desk for my home and though I made my share of newbie mistakes, thanks to your teachings it's sturdy, took the stain beautifully without blotchiness, and I was able to fix and avoid many little mistakes along the way for a better end product. I can't stop touching it! (saved over $700 making it vs buying anything online too!)

  • @nscr2
    @nscr2 5 років тому +127

    Now a blur cam! The production value just keeps going up and up! Great job Steve

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +25

      I'm always researching the latest video techniques. 😂

    • @AttilaAsztalos
      @AttilaAsztalos 5 років тому +1

      These production values are preposterous! I demand a proper J J Abrams shaky cam...!

    • @woodandwheelz
      @woodandwheelz 5 років тому +5

      @@SteveRamsey I don't care how many videos of yours I've watched over the past 50 years, I still enjoy all of them. LoL I really do. Whether I know the content already or not. Your videos are not only informative but entertaining. A also enjoy how you mix in your videoing errors with humor. Thank you very much and keep up the great work.

    • @jetah50
      @jetah50 5 років тому +1

      @@SteveRamsey only thing you really need is some sound dampening in that room.

  • @S4flynlow
    @S4flynlow 4 роки тому +130

    Seeing the way that Cherry darkened over time. WOW!

    • @deborahnorris4613
      @deborahnorris4613 3 роки тому

      I can't wait for mine to. Probably not in my lifetime 🤣 tho.

  • @flytacos
    @flytacos 2 роки тому

    Seen thousands of UA-cam videos, but this was really one of the most well made ones i've seen. Thanks. Very clear and informative. 10/10

  • @makingcrapwithscrap5701
    @makingcrapwithscrap5701 3 роки тому

    Huge fan for years. Always learning. Today's lessons, don't let conditioner sit for hours. Ended up having to sand a pine table top and start over. Thanks Steve. Happy new years.

  • @philmininni5981
    @philmininni5981 5 років тому +4

    The question (topcoat) came up when working on the Weekend Woodworker Sonoma Coffee Table. Great timing. Thank you!

  • @p-runkz370
    @p-runkz370 Рік тому +3

    ive been watching for a good while. you have made me so confident in doing projects "im not even a carpenter im a dj"

    • @wvp07
      @wvp07 Рік тому +2

      Meh, you can be both!!
      Ooooo, maybe you could build a cool mobile rack for your vinyl!

  • @brookev.5140
    @brookev.5140 Рік тому

    This was EXTREMELY informative! Thank you for the additional effort in putting in comparisons and examples!

  • @mattk9676
    @mattk9676 5 років тому +1

    Thanks Steve! i get asked this question when my friends tackle their own projects. now i can just send them this link!

  • @917Stefano
    @917Stefano 5 років тому +11

    Steve is right: The pre-stain conditioner really does help a lot when staining pine. It is easy to use, and it eliminates much of that blotchiness. But there are both water-based and oil-based versions of this product, so you need to get the appropriate one for the stain you are using. And as for the Basic Mobile Workbench, I built one and it is great. I already had a decent workbench bolted against one wall of my garage. But I find myself using the BMW workbench more and more.

  • @aesthetic_koala
    @aesthetic_koala 4 роки тому +319

    Why am I watching this at 6 in the morning. I don’t even have anything to stain 💀

    • @KevinMartinez-iw7mz
      @KevinMartinez-iw7mz 4 роки тому +6

      carli cassano quarantine life

    • @tammik4652
      @tammik4652 4 роки тому +1

      carli cassano I just LOL.. it so me too... lol. Stay safe

    • @ailiaw
      @ailiaw 4 роки тому +3

      Take up woodworking

    • @KarlaGarcia-xn6wp
      @KarlaGarcia-xn6wp 4 роки тому +1

      Lol... maybe you're getting some kind of inspiration..?? Lol

    • @hoorayimhelping3978
      @hoorayimhelping3978 3 роки тому +1

      learning is awesome and empowering

  • @serjstoned
    @serjstoned 5 років тому

    Great comedic timing and educational! You should get an Oscar!

  • @MrBrewzr
    @MrBrewzr 4 роки тому

    I love your videos, I’m new, and I mean new. With your help me and my 17 year old son are about to start this hobbie together. Thank you for all of the video you do. I love watching and learning basic stuff, that’s not basic for us newbies.

  • @TheFlatlander440
    @TheFlatlander440 5 років тому +7

    Good vid. I like to use a torch to char stain some of my wood projects then finish it with some poly. Thanks for sharing.

    • @cms1083
      @cms1083 4 роки тому

      Ditto!! :-)

  • @ratdog3055
    @ratdog3055 5 років тому +45

    I took a bunch of small scraps of pine, beech and oak and made samples of all the stains I keep in stock. Much easier to show a person (or yourself) how the finish will look. Get a new stain? Make a sample of it.

    • @jonathantenorio8829
      @jonathantenorio8829 4 роки тому +1

      Stains wont look the same on every type of wood unfortunately

    • @HydraSR
      @HydraSR 4 роки тому

      @@jonathantenorio8829 Exactly, and even sanding and preconditioning can make a lot of difference, as explained in the video too.

    • @lv5310
      @lv5310 4 роки тому

      Is there anything that must be applied before putting a clear stain? Or do I just put the clear stain by itself to keep it's natural look?

    • @tomjens2046
      @tomjens2046 3 роки тому

      @@jonathantenorio8829 thats is why he took all different wood he is working with. If client want beech, he shows beech sample.

  • @dragonblee1
    @dragonblee1 5 років тому

    Once again, thank you from Australia, all your vids are educational for woodwork, good job.

  • @TheProdigalSon310
    @TheProdigalSon310 4 роки тому

    Steve, your videos are fantastic. They're very informative and great at assuming that anyone who watches it are beginners. Keep up the good work👏👍

  • @victoriasseacretoki
    @victoriasseacretoki 4 роки тому +16

    Thank you for posting this! I was going to stain an old 1890s desk I was refinishing (my first project) but after seeing this I decided just to sand it and use poly and the color is so nice without staining! I love how it came out.

  • @TheAudioman15
    @TheAudioman15 4 роки тому +167

    "For some reason, a lot of beginning wood workers think staining is a requirement.........." Stop calling me out Steve!

    • @RideRedRacer
      @RideRedRacer 4 роки тому +3

      its a personal opinion. i think dark stains look better than everything else

    • @TheAudioman15
      @TheAudioman15 3 роки тому

      RideRedRacer I have moved on to painting everything now. Staining takes a lot of work I have realized

  • @grbroussard
    @grbroussard 5 років тому +1

    I’m a new woodworker and an avid follower. I definitely appreciate your videos. THANKS!

  • @BeckyAlter
    @BeckyAlter 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome as always, Steve! Just made a new table for the patio and am going to try the spray lacquer you suggested in your other video. Looks like it’ll be beautiful and go much faster than other products!!

  • @quotesforyou959
    @quotesforyou959 4 роки тому +6

    Very interesting vid. The one without conditioner at 7:10 I thought was the correct way since it had a more 'farmhouse' look. Learnt a lot. Thanks.

    • @stankorzilius
      @stankorzilius 3 роки тому +1

      I would say if that's the way you want it to look then it is the correct way.

    • @infinitydreamzz
      @infinitydreamzz 3 роки тому

      I like that "farmhouse" look too. Looks more natural/raw, while the conditioner one looks more processed/polished

  • @quokkapirquish6825
    @quokkapirquish6825 5 років тому +1021

    He looks innocent enough, friendly, helpful even.....and then you see the ouija board and wonder what he gets up to off camera

    • @zoegurick9159
      @zoegurick9159 5 років тому +35

      omg ...sooo spooooky ..good eye park

    • @tonis204
      @tonis204 4 роки тому +125

      Quokka Pirquish
      But......the coffin didn't get your attention?😉

    • @MIKESTREED
      @MIKESTREED 4 роки тому +15

      Haha. Oh man! What a change in perspective!!!

    • @dustinhargrove2129
      @dustinhargrove2129 4 роки тому +4

      I mean Ouija apparently 🙄 not my way but different folks ya know...

    • @dustinhargrove2129
      @dustinhargrove2129 4 роки тому +12

      campbellscollision I agree, still none of my business, I got no problem watching him do some cool woodworking stuff, you know from the safety of my own home 😁 who cares what the guy does in his spare time so long as he’s not hurting anybody

  • @StAugMikeAkers
    @StAugMikeAkers 2 роки тому

    I am not a beginner. I am more of a long-time amateur still making beginner mistakes and learning new stuff. I just recently learned about some new-fangled stuff called sanding sealer and I almost wept when I saw the difference in the finished product. I wish I could go back in time, retrieve and redo some past projects. Great channel! Just subscribed.

  • @chrisgriggs1077
    @chrisgriggs1077 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Steve You have been helping me for about a year now,and I think this episode is for a level 2 beginner. So I just wanted to say thanks for the episodes that move up a level. I think they are the hardest to find. I was too concerned with grain direction,flatness, and glue amounts last year to consider the finishing coats, but it is time for the entire project to get the proper attention. Two thumbs up.

  • @MaydaysCustomWoodworks
    @MaydaysCustomWoodworks 5 років тому +23

    Steve, I love your channel man. I'm a pro woodworker and i wish i would have learned your message so much earlier. Expensive tools are not required to make beautiful products. Expensive tools can make the process faster IF you are properly experience with them, but they are not required at all. So often when i was younger I would fail at a part of my woodworking and I thought it was because i didnt have the right tools like i saw Marc Spagnuolo have. It had nothing to do with it. I simply didnt know my tools and my materials enough.
    Wood working is for people of all budgets and minds. One of my prized woodworking posessions is a hand carved sparrow. I bought it from a homeless man who carved it from used sandpaper, a used utility knife, and a broken fork. The bird is beautiful. I couldnt make it with all my tools.... He found an abandoned lot with a broken fence and used the cedar from the fence to make the bird. He used copper wiring for the feet. His tools and wiring were scavenged from the dumpster of a cabinet shop.

    • @origamisensei
      @origamisensei 2 роки тому

      What a great story and a useful insight! I’m new and I appreciate it. Screenshotted to save for later.

    • @chaplainmattsanders4884
      @chaplainmattsanders4884 Рік тому

      Cool comment. Thnx man!

  • @sunofslavia
    @sunofslavia 5 років тому +9

    I've built my loft bed/workspace and a rolling table in my room using only a jigsaw and a cordless drill. Maybe not the best option, concerning dust, but hey, that's why I have a vacuum for. To be honest, your channel was one of my main inspirations to just start doing something without a workshop. Thanks Steve!

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому

      Wow...I'll bet that was a bit of cleanup! Haha! Hey, thanks for watching Pelle!

  • @TheMacj90
    @TheMacj90 2 роки тому

    So many mistakes I could’ve avoided had I found this channel earlier. Thanks for the info and tips!

  • @ArtySheboygan
    @ArtySheboygan Рік тому

    Steve - I can't thank you enough for all of this amazing content.

  • @FulvioGa
    @FulvioGa 5 років тому +3

    This video was very informative.

  • @tysmith7646
    @tysmith7646 5 років тому +3

    Please do a video about getting a wood deck ready for the summer. Cleaning and staining.

  • @upandoutadventures9440
    @upandoutadventures9440 5 років тому

    Great and informative video. Thank you so much for taking the confusion out of staining.

  • @maureenreeder
    @maureenreeder 4 роки тому

    This was great! I’m glad I watched it before attempting my first bench re-staining. I would’ve made a few mistakes. Thank you.

  • @TavishMusicOfficial
    @TavishMusicOfficial 4 роки тому +4

    Hey Steve! Really great content on your channel. I've been trying to finish an Ikea table top using Danish oil and for some reason it seems to have gotten all blotchy and patchy even though I sanded down and wiped off excess and followed the instructions. Any suggestions on how I could save it and get a nice smooth finish? Any help would be much appreciated!

  • @CodeSe77en
    @CodeSe77en 5 років тому +4

    Great job, Steve! Keep 'em coming!

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +1

      Thanks Bill!

    • @CodeSe77en
      @CodeSe77en 5 років тому

      @@SteveRamsey You're welcome and I mean it. I love all your videos. Your BMW was my first workbench and when it warms up here soon (Colorado) I will make more headway on your WW course. I've used the cold winter to gather more tools. I've got the itch to build stuff, baby!!

  • @jackliz2439
    @jackliz2439 4 роки тому

    As someone that loves woodworking and hasn't done more than 3 projects. I thank you for every single video.

  • @freshjive8586
    @freshjive8586 2 роки тому

    Thank you just discovered your channel before staining our stairs and floorboards and they are brilliant. Thank you

  • @MilmoWood
    @MilmoWood 5 років тому +8

    Drove my wkend woodworking passion and channel. Thanks, another amazingly useful video.

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +1

      Thank you! I really appreciate that.

  • @davidtowsey9047
    @davidtowsey9047 5 років тому +4

    Great information. As much care should be taken with finish as with the assembly. By the way, Steve. Imagine my surprise when I saw your commentary on a E Magazine report on UA-cam about the Little Rascals(Our Gang)!!!! Wow, a man of many talents!! That must have been before WWMM. I’ve been subscribed for many years and never knew that about you. By the way, the interview was great..

  • @Crashoverride1234
    @Crashoverride1234 5 років тому

    Best video I’ve seen so far. Just straight to the point. Thanks :)

  • @dustyandsneezing
    @dustyandsneezing 5 років тому

    Everything you just said is completely right. Love your videos!

  • @archeriran
    @archeriran 4 роки тому +3

    Hi Steve, thank you for great videos. Can I use natural oil after staining? or any other natural product to protect the stain from changing color?

  • @troyclayton
    @troyclayton 4 роки тому +21

    Minwax prestain conditioner is just mineral spirits, use mineral spirits instead (use water before a water based stain). Shellac will prevent oil and water based stains from penetrating the wood (it doesn't dissolve in either solvent). That's all you need to know.

    • @frankking1466
      @frankking1466 2 роки тому

      I don’t think so Troy, I just used both of those product & mineral spirits are clear (like paint thinner) the MinWax prestain conditioner is like a goldish/bronze colour. They look totally different. I used mineral spirits to clean board after sanding then once it dried I applied the prestain conditioner & let it dry then applied some “Espresso” (minwax stain) & 🤯 holy f the grain popped

    • @troyclayton
      @troyclayton 2 роки тому

      @@frankking1466 Looks like you're right about the contents, I never looked it up. My bad. Minwax lists light and medium aliphatic hydrocarbons (CAS 64742-47-8 and CAS 64742-88-7) which is basically kerosine/jet fuel with some naphtha in it. I've use mineral spirits as a prestain treatment and it does work fine, the point is to put some solvent into the more thirsty parts of the wood so they don't absorb more stain and look blotchy.

  • @stevenlaroche7800
    @stevenlaroche7800 3 роки тому

    The wood conditioner is a must. I’m glad you mentioned it. Good video!

  • @musicful7036
    @musicful7036 5 місяців тому

    you're a great teacher. Every video of yours is so informative. Thank you.

  • @charleshetrick3152
    @charleshetrick3152 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for remembering to bring up pre-stain sealants. Benite is my personal favorite. If you want to avoid a topcoat for whatever reason you can wet sand with the stain. I seal (Benite) after 320 grit and then stain; then the second coat of stain is applied with 400 grit wetordry from 3M and then I polish with an untreated wool disc on my 6” sander. The result is just amazing and is hydrophobic. When I’m feeling particularly bored I follow the same steps but at 1200 grit.

    • @PoeticBabble
      @PoeticBabble 5 років тому

      Wet sanding with the stain doesn't muddy up the look of the grain?

    • @charleshetrick3152
      @charleshetrick3152 5 років тому +1

      Clinton Gibson short answer is no; it does make a bit of a slurry but at those high grit sanding levels and the sealant and the first coat already applied there’s no pits valleys or pores to muddy up. It does of course fill a little but the result is more like the difference between dry sanding metal vs wet sanding metal. If i don’t mix my own stain (I love me some transtint) i use Daly’s premixed stains. If you can try a test piece i know you’ll be pleased and it does save clear coating and sanding and clear coating again and dealing with the clear coat breaking over the corners and edges. Worst case you bust out some Acetone and wipe down what you don’t like and go from there. Also also, i use acetone as a wipe down prior to sealing before staining. It displaces water and pulls out oils out of the knots and helps really grab the sanding dust.

    • @charleshetrick3152
      @charleshetrick3152 5 років тому +1

      Clinton Gibson if you’re in the Tacoma Washington area i could show you the result, i just finished a table made from a PSL beam that i ripped into planks and biscuited together into a coffee table i went down to 5000 grit and the result was mind blowing. It was like glass but there was literally no top coat.

    • @christacrisp197
      @christacrisp197 3 роки тому +1

      Oh. My. Gosh....

    • @charleshetrick3152
      @charleshetrick3152 3 роки тому

      @@christacrisp197 I get bored easily. I just did a table and went to 3000 grit polishing pads. Only trouble is the client is a little sad that it’s kinda too beautiful to use. They’re concerned for damaging the finish.

  • @Drew-ho9ee
    @Drew-ho9ee 5 років тому +222

    have you been able to communicate with past wood workers with that ouija board?

    • @SweetBabyJay
      @SweetBabyJay 4 роки тому +73

      He uses that board to communicate with the mineral spirits to clean up the stain after he is done.

    • @piotrtrocki3842
      @piotrtrocki3842 4 роки тому +3

      @@SweetBabyJay hahaha

    • @tammik4652
      @tammik4652 4 роки тому +3

      Jesse Schlarb that was clever! 🤣

    • @fredbradshaw3835
      @fredbradshaw3835 3 роки тому +1

      @@SweetBabyJay nice one😆.

    • @HamakuaDivebomber
      @HamakuaDivebomber 3 роки тому +1

      Seen it too lol

  • @sigogglin
    @sigogglin 3 роки тому

    It all started with this video for a small project and now I am in week 4 of his course. It is worth the money.

  • @cbprojects9389
    @cbprojects9389 2 роки тому

    Love your videos, they were very helpful on my first desk build, thanks for sharing Steve!

  • @kenpryor4440
    @kenpryor4440 4 роки тому +15

    I stained all my kitchen cabinets when i bought my house with oil stain then put 8 coats of water based polyurethane on and wet sanded them and buffed them they are smooth as glass been that way for 5 yrs now still lookin good

    • @zpD3dRlckqs
      @zpD3dRlckqs 4 роки тому

      thanks for sharing dude! I just realized I bought oil based stain and solvent poly for my project and being paranoid about it hahahaha

    • @austinjohnson3977
      @austinjohnson3977 3 роки тому

      Damn I need a video on how you did that, I wan a buy a beach wood desk top and stain it and I wanna get a good finish when I apply the poly

  • @geneo1976
    @geneo1976 4 роки тому +3

    One important thing to remember about staining, especially bare cabinets. Always be sure to sand before staining! Sometimes oils from your fingers will leave residue on the wood that you will not see until after you stain. Remove all dust after sanding and you are good to go!

  • @biffwellington823
    @biffwellington823 3 роки тому

    excellent job on the "blur cam"! love your stuff, and thanks for the smiles.

  • @Picplosions
    @Picplosions 2 роки тому

    Literally answered all my questions I was looking for in other videos.

  • @Thirdplace4life
    @Thirdplace4life 5 років тому +55

    I'm ahead of all you wood worker's. I get my wood chrome plated.

    • @sohamsengupta6470
      @sohamsengupta6470 4 роки тому

      @campbellscollision Indeed it is but man that hurts my soul

    • @baw1098
      @baw1098 3 роки тому

      @Soham Sengupta IKR!!! It's like painting over wood, never understood that!!! (smh)

    • @Naughty_Squad
      @Naughty_Squad 3 роки тому

      Pfff we are miles ahead of you boy, we hydro dip ours..

  • @davidrossmiller8349
    @davidrossmiller8349 5 років тому +6

    I always clean up wood with a damp cloth to help raise the vanes then sand it down, seams to come out a little smoother.

    • @daniels1293
      @daniels1293 4 роки тому

      couldn't imagine not water popping before staining after I started doing it,

  • @LeoYuanX
    @LeoYuanX 3 роки тому

    I like how concise your videos are,

  • @philmcl9370
    @philmcl9370 3 роки тому

    This guy is so good! Absolute legendary advice as always

  • @carleegg5506
    @carleegg5506 5 років тому +4

    First :D
    This video came just when I needed it, I have been trying to figure out how I want to finish my most recent project, Aspen ply free standing closet :)

    • @ryanm64
      @ryanm64 5 років тому +1

      Damn you

    • @FulvioGa
      @FulvioGa 5 років тому +1

      Yes, for me too! I have got a urgent project to be built with pine and I thought I had to stain it.

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +1

      I LOVE the look of aspen! Just a clear finish will look awesome.

    • @carleegg5506
      @carleegg5506 5 років тому

      @@SteveRamsey
      Thanks! I'll give that a try :)

  • @lenonkitchens7727
    @lenonkitchens7727 4 роки тому +8

    For posterity, shellac is the "universal binder". You can mix pretty much any oil and water borne products if you put a coat of shellac in between them.

    • @zoezzzarko1117
      @zoezzzarko1117 3 роки тому +1

      Layer. Not mix 😎

    • @lenonkitchens7727
      @lenonkitchens7727 3 роки тому

      @@zoezzzarko1117 Obviously, since I spoke of putting a coat in between layers. :P

    • @zoezzzarko1117
      @zoezzzarko1117 3 роки тому

      @@lenonkitchens7727 😋😊🤗

  • @randycone77
    @randycone77 4 роки тому

    My favorite video of yours so far Steve. I’ve started to read a book on wood finishing and was getting lost in minutia.

  • @AngeliqueKaga
    @AngeliqueKaga 5 років тому +1

    I've used the basic mobile work bench for six different projects and are are different. Thanks Steve!

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому

      Awesome! It's really versatile. Thank you!

  • @rustybones99
    @rustybones99 5 років тому +4

    A lot of people think you need to stain everything because it was always part of every project in wood shop in school.

  • @Pijawek
    @Pijawek 4 роки тому +3

    I stain wood because hardwood is quite difficult to get for me while I have a lot of pine - I like pine but prefer darker furniture etc.

  • @CTManSir
    @CTManSir 4 роки тому

    I'm new and the part about conditioning was useful for me. Thanks for showing the comparison.

  • @tritonreptiles7658
    @tritonreptiles7658 4 роки тому

    This channel is genius! So happy to find it.

  • @OffroadTreks
    @OffroadTreks 5 років тому +7

    Ebony & Honey are my two favorite colors on pine personally.

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +1

      I've never tried honey...thanks for the tip!

    • @ans05
      @ans05 5 років тому +1

      Honey is a nice color. It goes well on old oak floors.

    • @whitechris720
      @whitechris720 4 роки тому

      Used honey last week, it came out great

  • @bam2431
    @bam2431 4 роки тому +125

    Welp..wish i had watched this 5 hours ago b4 staining my first project lol.

    • @FrostedRamen
      @FrostedRamen 4 роки тому +2

      Same 😂😂😂😭

    • @Maxine5683
      @Maxine5683 3 роки тому

      Yep, me too :(

    • @juliettepowers5154
      @juliettepowers5154 3 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @rosedcurt2865
      @rosedcurt2865 3 роки тому

      Yup.......

    • @thepikeangler2022
      @thepikeangler2022 3 роки тому

      I did my fence with an osmo product. It was an oil and hard for an amateur to apply evenly especially when the sun is drying it quickly. I think I was given bad advice of to apply plenty maybe like you would a traditional fence treatment however it's quite patchy. I'm now not sure if to apply a second coat.

  • @shaynesabala
    @shaynesabala 7 місяців тому

    Thank you sir, I haven’t done this yet but it’s in my near future. I picked up a lot of useful tips here. I appreciate your help.

  • @SuperDavidBrothers
    @SuperDavidBrothers 5 років тому +1

    Steve I really love your videos!! Not only because they're entertaining and somewhat funny, but they're also very informative so thank you so much for making all these very informative videos man it really means a lot to me and it gives me ideas of what kind of projects and videos I want to make in the future!! So props to you man!! :)

  • @Fireflyepic
    @Fireflyepic 5 років тому +6

    I've found that wetting the wood down slightly and then drying works just as well as using a preconditioner, surprisingly. Don't knock it 'till you try it; test it on a scrap piece of wood first, of course. It seriously makes a difference. Good video though!

    • @zoezzzarko1117
      @zoezzzarko1117 3 роки тому

      Even w oil based stains?

    • @zp944
      @zp944 Рік тому

      Yup, me too. After the sanding, I wipe the wood down with a wet rag. Not so wet that it's dripping everywhere, but wet enough that water leaks out of the rag when I apply pressure during wiping.
      Then I either let it air dry, or if I'm doing a single piece and I'm impatient, I use a hair dryer on low heat to speed it up a bit after letting it soak for a few minutes.
      I never let it dry completely though, the wood is still slightly cool and moist to the touch

    • @zp944
      @zp944 Рік тому +1

      @@zoezzzarko1117 oil over water is okay, water over oil is not

  • @jarls5890
    @jarls5890 3 роки тому +4

    Another thing not mentioned: If you glue anything. Make sure there is no glue residue left anywhere as stain has a tendency to slide right off any exposed glue. This can be especially tricky if you have two glued pieces that has the slightest gap between them filled with glue. This gap will not take the stain and can look ugly.

    • @MissCaraMint
      @MissCaraMint Рік тому +1

      So I'm guessing the answer there is wood filler? I hear they are stainable.

  • @jgriff19861947
    @jgriff19861947 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for all your great tips it also helps us when we forget things

  • @chitrabhatt2303
    @chitrabhatt2303 5 років тому

    This is such a helpful video 👍🏼 thank you so much for making it!!

  • @simonhopkins3867
    @simonhopkins3867 5 років тому +3

    I'm not sure but did you mention testing stain on scrap first? Well if not it's a good tip. Brilliant information as usual bud.🍺

    • @conwaytwittyisalive9883
      @conwaytwittyisalive9883 5 років тому +2

      I used to work at a paint store and I can't tell you how many times people would buy stain for whatever project and come back in later talking about how they ruined it because they didn't like the way that particular stain looked once applied. Different woods take the exact same stain differently! Always test on scrap before applying to the finished piece!

    • @simonhopkins3867
      @simonhopkins3867 5 років тому +1

      @@conwaytwittyisalive9883 yes indeed.

  • @databang
    @databang 4 роки тому +8

    Awesome, now I can give my wooden prosthetic limbs a tan!

    • @Zeeno
      @Zeeno 4 роки тому

      Tan well enough, you get an n word pass

    • @databang
      @databang 4 роки тому +3

      Zeeno my friend and my 𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖌𝖆! I will use it wisely. |°з°|

  • @PotterytothePeople
    @PotterytothePeople 2 роки тому

    Hugely helpful! Thanks for answering all the questions I was too afraid to ask!

  • @sheenam4136
    @sheenam4136 2 роки тому

    Wow. Did not know this. Glad I came across this video. Totally attempting to make a pallet bed and I want to add stain to it now that I have finished sanding it. Thank you for this information!

  • @RogerHerzler
    @RogerHerzler 5 років тому +18

    6:15 for the ‘blotching’ that’s seen in the thumbnail. The entire video is worth a watch, but if you want to see how to prevent blotching (I sure did!), that’s where it is.

  • @bennierheeder7015
    @bennierheeder7015 5 років тому +7

    Pine, the camry of the forest 😂😂

    • @SteveRamsey
      @SteveRamsey  5 років тому +3

      Yes!!! Santa Clarita Diet FTW!

  • @Scobbo
    @Scobbo 4 роки тому

    Thanks for all your videos Steve. These have really helped!

  • @chuckbowie5833
    @chuckbowie5833 2 роки тому

    Incredibly helpful, thanks!