Beginners guide to downhill skateboards (must watch)
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
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Earthwing Hoopty - $90 (affordable but quality)
EastSide Relic - $109
Landyachtz Cheesegrater - $139
Landyachtz Switchblade - $138
Pantheon Gaia - $150
Pantheon CHiller - $160
Rolling Tree Acedia - $180
Loaded Tesseract - $200+
-Trucks-
Paris Trucks
Caliber Trucks
Arsenal Trucks
Bear trucks
-Wheels-
Powell Peralta Snakes
Powell Peralta 72mm Krimes wheels
Cuei Killers 77a
Cheetah Hawgs 76/90a
Venom Magnums 74a
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0:00 - Intro
0:12 - What is downhill skateboarding/longboarding?
0:35 - Riding footage
0:57 - What safety equipment to get for downhill?
1:32 - Features we will be looking at
2:00 - What to look for in a deck for downhill?
2:08 - Stiffness is important
2:48 - Why you want your deck to be stiff
3:11 - Pick the right wheelbase
3:58 - What wheelbases pros ride (why to avoid them)
4:30 - What mounting option to go for?
5:44 - How do the different mounting options feel?
6:28 - How much should a deck for downhill cost?
7:33 - Avoid cheap brands
7:43 - You're also going to want coarse griptape for your board
8:05 - What are good coarse griptape brands?
8:21 - Riding footage
8:43 - What to look for in a truck for downhill?
8:55 - Truck anatomy explained
9:33 - What are baseplate angles?
10:30 - What are split angles?
11:33 - Width of truck should match deck of choice
12:24 - Avoid trucks from cheap brands
12:45 - Why cheap trucks aren't good for downhill
13:49 - How much should a good set of trucks cost you?
14:11 - Good quality truck brands?
14:44 - Riding footage
15:19 - What are bushings and why do they matter?
15:41 - Why do stock bushings suck?
16:05 - How to pick weight-appropriate bushings?
16:38 - What bushings am I using? (example)
17:06 - How much should you expect to pay for bushings?
17:48 - Bushings are a great upgrade, but ...
18:05 - Riding footage
18:45 - What to look for in DH skate wheels?
18:56 - Best wheels for learning to slide?
19:27 - What makes a good, easy-to-slide wheel?
19:46 - Great wheels to use after getting the slide basics ...
20:00 - These wheels are harder to slide but ...
20:36 - Other wheels that are good for learning to slide
20:57 - Why this is a difficult question
21:45 - Avoid longboard race wheels (with examples)
22:07 - Situations when race wheels might be ok ...
22:23 - Good longboard wheel brands to go with
23:00 - How much to pay for wheels - about $40
23:22 - Riding footage
23:47 - Why to go for a DH complete?
24:05 - How much is a good DH complete?
24:43 - Avoid cheap completes and why
25:38 - Why it's important to get a quality board
26:05 - Patron thanks and conclusion
I already know I'm gonna watch this thing like 5 times
lol, yes! Download that info into your brain :)
Dude you are the reason I got into downhill skating. The sexy skate footage as well as more in-depth guides and reviews are everything I need to keep the stoke going. Love what you do for the community and hope you won't stop any time soon.
Wow man, thats quite the compliment. Really happy the videos and content got you stoked. And no, not stopping any time soon :)
i was down a kenyan youtube rabbithole and its lead me to this channel. i dont regret it.
I just want you to know that in months of searching online for accurate and useful information about this topic, you are by far the best at organizing and presenting information without contradicting yourself or being confusing. Thanks for doing this! I may never actually get to the point of going fast on my board (I'm over 50 and don't have much time to practice), but at least I will know what the deal is.
Wish I would have learned this 35 years ago. Use to skate down the ski mountain where I grew up. No gloves, helmet or any gear what so ever. Melted the wheels off a board! Eventually learned a horrible lesson. Crashed folding my leg underneath me and almost lost my foot. It was actually twisted backwards. Tried some stupedness cranking it around... not a good move!
I'm an old man at 54 and am getting a longboard to skate around. I miss it. Just going to take it easy!
I cannot express how much you have changed my life. I did lots of general longboarding and just getting around but I got into downhill because of you and others like josh neuman. This guide was probably the best thing I've come across on this platform thank you so much✌️
much love man! Hoope the other bits of content serve you well too :)
I considered myself not a begginer but this was still very entertaining to watch and you covered everything really well
Thanks for watching! Relly happy you think so :)
at what point you consider yourself not a beginner? when you get some slides down?
@@PlatypusPGM I'd say when you can slow down both ways and make it down hills safely
Top drawer content. As a complete beginner, I've been trying to learn about longboarding from various sources across the web and most of it is well meaning but lacking on detail or missing explainer for terms like 'micro-drop' that a newbie won't understand. None of that from you though! Between the live action content, the encyclopaedic blog, and now these videos, the work you're doing is incredible. So much respect. Keep doing what you're doing, bro!
Thanks! Just doing what I can :)
My magneto mini cruiser was a love hate. It was low quality, had lopsided wheels, etc. but I made so many memories and hit like 30mph consistently. I have recently bought a landyachtz evo which is better obviously, but the magneto was fun.
Genius! Great video for beginners who wanna start with downhill 🙌🙌
This should be the bible for any entry level downhill skater! Mate, can you please make an episode more focused on bushing? Like how different shapes affect responsiveness and stabilty, or what would be the ideal setup for a beginner?
this man is an absolute base pillar of the DH community - much love from Germany! your channel is awesome, sir!
Thank you kindly! More coming soon :)
Great video!! lot of great info packed in a very compact format I have been skating since 1982 but not downhill since 1988 , great to know that it is a cure for wobble.
You are pretty much a stand out in the informational downhill arena, thank you very much!
This video is exactly what i was looking for. Thank you and lots of respect 🤞🏼
That is exactly the video i was waiting for. Very nice video👍
Bless :)
Man do I love it! Great for beginners and experienced riders. Probably the most informative, well researched dh channel I’ve seen. Every time Im done watching a few of your videos I feel an awesome confidence boost in my riding. Keep up the awesome content king!
Thanks bro 🤙
Great video mate. After trawling the web looking for information on downhill skating, I stumbled on this piece...man, its got it all and explained perfectly. Great stuff!
Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and valuable information. Great Job!
So happy I found this video. Thank you so much. this was very informative as I am a beginner and wanting to learn more about this sport❤❤
The most complete and well explained video I've found about the topic 10/10 🤟🏼
Thanks for watching :)
DUDE, I learned more in the first 5 minutes from you than I have from anything else I've seen over the last few months. THANK YOU!!! (You also picked me up on Patreon the other day too ❤)
Much love and thanks for joining the Patreon! Always love to hear that the content is useful :)
you are CRAZYYY good at explaining things dude
Great Beginner Guide with much detailed knowleadge 👏. Thanks for the inspiration und greets from germany 🤙
Thanks for watching man!
Great video! Thank you so much for all the information
This is definitely the best explanatory video for beginners I’ve seen on UA-cam. I’ve been riding for a few years on an original skateboards pintail and I’ve hit 25 miles an hour or so, but it’s definitely not stable at all at 3 ply maple. Luckily I haven’t wiped out yet but I’ve been very close multiple times. Even tho the complete I had was a quality 250 dollar set up, this definitely helped me see what I needed in a true downhill board. So thanks a lot bro, and I pray you stay safe out there. Keep making great content dude!!
Glad your think the video is great!
Yeah man, the Original pintail sounds great for cruising but not DH :)
I was longboarding maybe 8years doing some tricks. And a few weeks ago I tried downhill and sliding. This video was hella interesting 🤙❤️
Glad you like it :)
btw when you search skateboard downhill beginner your vids first so thanks for the quality content and guide
Really enjoyed your video. Well explained and very informative too.
Glad it was helpful!
Hell yeah man can’t wait to ride in big groups again
great video bro!! covered a bit of everything keep up the good work
Thanks for watching! :)
Great stuff. As always.👍👍
Still going strong 💪 💪 as the go-to, must know info when getting started. I made the classic mistake of getting race wheels (Blood Orange Alpines) right out of the gate. Although they have a lovely aesthetic and they roll super fast, I’m trying to learn the basics and yeah; I will try the dishwasher tip next time too to break off the standard mould. Thanks again, very useful!! ❤❤❤
Love the videos man
Roads look buttery, in Canada they all suck, especially in Quebec. Sick video, I should get the cheese grater it's a good looking board!
Crazy how Quebec has worse roads than Kenya. But tbf, the weather there is more intense haha
seen some clips on this looks fun i might see about getting into this
Been boarding over 10 years, with breaks in between. Why do I keep coming back? Flow State. There’s no feeling like it. Thanks for sharing the experience man, you have the best up and coming channel I’ve seen in a long time.
Love from Canada 🇨🇦
I gotta agree man. Downhill puts me in that headspace. So hard to find that feeling anywhere else. Thanks for watching man, an dstoked you think the channel has potential :)
Nice Explanation, thank you !
Great video. 🔥🔥🔥
you're awesome bro. thanks for sharing that knowledge.
No worries man
As a beginner learning at low speeds I find I have an easier time going into slides with Paris V3 and Bear Gen 6 (both 50°) than with Caliber II 44°, stock bushings on all of them. On my Tesseract I even moved the trucks to the shortest wheelbase.
Yeah that might be true for some. Thanks for sharing man :)
I found the same when I was learning. I found that the tighter turning circle helped me build force at low speeds to break slides out. I am a big fan of soft bushings and a turny setups for beginners, lower speed makes some things harder, but it does make a whole lotta stuff safer. Now I'm more experienced I can break out slides with less carving into them, at high or low speed, but that comes with practice and building that special little kind of strength in your legs only longboarding really uses.
Great video mate
I'm prolly half ur views on UA-cam. Lol I really get quality, applicable info every rewatch. Thanks again @downhill254
Thanks for the kind words bro. Really means alot that you watch em alot!
thanks man for the video... appreciate it
great video, nice one!
Liking the t shirt bro
BIG DINOSAUR ENERGY M8
Great video!
you had me rolling... "you're probably going to die" hahaha...great video :) just getting into this and the video was super thorough. cheers
Glad you like it! :)
Thank you for the explanation
Amazing man
Thanks for the video!!
That's a great video, my brother! I've been casually skateboarding/longboarding since my teens and never really gave too much attention to half of the details you brought up!
I got my longboard on a trade a while ago and it feels right to do proper maintenance to it now. Since I'm not tinkering with the trucks setup yet, I wonder if using different sets of bushings in front and back trucks would somehow give a slightly similar effect to the 50-30 truck angles mentioned in the video. Any insight is appreciated!
I recently placed an order for a Chiller Pro deck which should hopefully come in soon. Just received the Arsenal 165mm 44 trucks for it today. This will be my first ever downhill setup, really excited to go out and learn! Already got all my protective gear but I do want to get a TSG Pass as a second helmet once they restock.
Sounds like a dope setup. Let me know how it rides :)
@@downhill254skate Oh for sure! Just missing the deck now that I got the Riptide bushings and pivot cups installed on the trucks haha.
Keep this up man!
Will do for as long as I can!
I gotta really make a effort to master the downhill. I've ridden down many a hill, but never really skated down on the proper board. I have one now probably considered to be a good entry level top mount (Bustin Boards SHRIKE).
I have access to probably one of the ONLY natural hills in the state of Florida.
My main setup: Bustin Sportster double drop. I know you’re not a fan of drop through... but I feel like my setup would make you smile. Caliber II 44 cal, orange orangatang Kegels, Powell Peralta Hardcore 88a barrel bushings board side, Blood Orange 89a roadside (the insert in the Hardcore makes it feel harder than a 88a btw). Vicious grip. And some custom shock absorbers (Dooks that I cut up).
The fastest hill here is only 70 km/hr (44 mph), but it owns it, with style 😎.
Cheers again, from Alberta Canada 🇨🇦
Sounds pretty good man. I bet the setup is a bit drifty with those Cal's, and that sounds pretty sweet too hehe.
Hope to skate with you one day man! I know Canada has some dope hills 🙂
I needed that
Good one!
yew!! great great great guide
Best downhill channel ❤
Black Magic grip works good
If it ever makes it on your list, I think a video about info or the transition between a normal board to one of the more modern DH setups would be great! I'm getting back into the sport after some years off and am thinking of making the switch over to the slalom style boards. If you're stable on a setup like a topmount with a 23" wheelbase and 176mm trucks with symmetrical angles, would it be a rough transition to a slalom DH board? I know the split angles make a big difference on those narrow trucks but it seems like it'd still be twitchy. Idk, this is coming from someone who has never ridden narrow trucks with new, big wheels. I was riding downhill around 2009-2014 so gear was quite different back then.
Thank you.
Pretty hard to find info like this for DH boarding . . . Thanks for the info
happy to help, more content coming soon
Great video! And what about Pivot cups and washers?
Didn't want to complicate it too much for people getting into it just yet. I do plan on making a guide to pivots and washers. But tbh as far as pivots go, riptide pivots are the best ... hard to compete against them haha
thanks bro!
You deserve more likes, views and subs for the quality info. With a bit of upgrade on recording gear and branding I'm pretty sure your channel will fly soon..
Much appreciated!
Fanny you said kkkk, to me Drop trhough are Best feeling , when i use truck cast With board Drop trhough i feel how if i using a truck precision With a board top Mountain
Quick question, would you consider Quest boards to be a cheap brand? I am running one of their boards with Sector 9 Butterballs at speeds around 20-25, but would like to know if I should upgrade before going much faster. Thanks for the awesome content, keep it up!!
legend
thank you!!!!!!!!!
what about bearings and bearing spacers do you use them ?
Greetz from Cologne, have Phun and stay healthy...
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I have a Jucker Hawaii Pueo..
Alot of really good info man. I like the idea of longboard sliding alot of hills where I live, using my surfskate is abit scetchy to say the least.
The Peralta wheels sound good, if I were to be doing say 6 slides on a hill medium speed, how long do they last?
Cheers Martyn
Theyre some of the more durable wheels on the market!, Should last you a decent while
Is the earth wing hoopty good?
Would you say the Venom Cannibals 72mm are a good wheel for starting out DH and be easy to slide bjt still have some grip to carve when freeriding
Never skated them, but maybe? You'll have a harder time sliding when compared to a wheel like rthe powell snakes, but they will slide if you're determined enough
Dude, Bad Ass, thanks
Wondering if I should get the rally cat. Could it take a hill? Can it slide easily/easier than the drop cat. And, what do you think the board is made for? Thanks for your help :)
Drop cat is better suited for hills than the rally cat. Drop cat is longer, and lower to the ground. But drop cat isn't that well suited for hills att he end of the day as well
I’ll check it out in person before I buy, but do you think the Freedive 23-23.5” wheelbase is too small for a beginner? I like a lot about the boards shape but don’t know if I should be worried about wheelbase.
Ehhh, not really. I think the size is adequate. A bit on the small side but manageable
I used landyachtz tugboat for downhill, what's you recommend set up? I'm a new subscriber😊
Anything for downhill Landyachtz is a good bet :)
Nice video, thanks for the info
What about bearings th0
Been thinking around this for weeks, need a new dh setup. My 42» duster is too big, my cruiser is perfect but not for over 50kph.
Want a 36» drop deck with 70-75a wheels and Gullwing trucks drop-through mounted, supposedly that’s not possible.
Can’t decide on max grip/stability or the ability to powerslide or harder turn capabilities.. because i ride goofy and slide towards left (oncoming traffic) and the hills i wanna go are somewhat narrow and will reach 65-85 kph speeds… anyone know if the only solution would be a deck like this guy? I’ve noticed most dh riders run setups like these
You can get a 36inch drop deck with 70-75a wheels and drop mounted gullwing trucks (not the sidewinderrs though, the gullwing reverse would be better).
If you can't slide, work on that first. A board with aftermarket bushings suited to your weight will be good enough and have the right balance for stability and turning capabilities
I have doubts about wheelbases
I saw this days a brand called zenit that they have a line called marble 38 that they have 22 to 25 wheelbase.
It is because of the length of the deck maybe?
It's common to find those lengths?.
I am surfing the internet because I want to pick up other longboard to learn slides and do freeride, cruising, and maaaybe sometimes to dancing freestyle obviously deck with double kicktail to learn tricks like Ollie.
And I find zenit mini marble 38 alternative longboard chauma m
And Rayne darkside ( I have already tried one day) as possibles ones to buy.
I have got a landyatchz drop hammer I picked up this one to learn again to skate since I was a child 😅.
And yes I had have many injuries falling to the concrete in this time because of not have enough knowledge about this topic 😅
Now understand many things man thanks really I appreciate it keep going.
yeah it's common to find those lengths. The 22inch wb is actually super tiny for most uses, but with all the mounting options you can find oen that works great for you.
You can use any bored, that’s how I first started
i wish i had seen these videos when i was younger. i had a 3/4 thick ply coffin shaped board i made about 4' high with some 1980s indy trucks and monster sized wheels. anyone actually doing this correct has my respect. i know how sketchy this can be.
Would you recommend a landyachtz switchblade 38 or dropcat 38?
Switchblade if you seriously wanna do DH and drop cat if you want to primarily cruise
I think of getting new longboard trucks for my dh setup. When I put on 180mm trucks with biggie hawgs the wheels are sticking over the edge of my board ( about 1,5cm in the front on each side, and about 2 cm in the back on each side.). Should I now buy 160mm trucks. Is it more important, that my trucks fit to the with of the board or that the edges of the wheels fit to the board with? I also ask myself if its better, for me as a beginner, to get wider trucks for more stability.I would be very happy about ayour answer;)
Wheels + trucks should fit under the board. Atleast the width of the board where your feet go.
Ok then I think i gonna go with 160mm trucks👍
A stiff deck gives you accurate control.
That's what she said.
With the Caliber II Trucks, can I put a hanger from a 9" 50* Caliber II on the baseplate of a 10" 44* Caliber II truck? Apparently Caliber doesn't offer a 160mm truck with the 44* baseplate. I have the baseplate but would like a narrower hanger and found a good deal on the 160mm 50*.
Yup! It works perfect. I used to ride my calibers like that.
Thanks for the comment on the blog btw! :)
@@downhill254skateOh man, I'm sorry. It kept saying double post detected and I didn't know it went through so I posted it here. Thanks again for your help.
@@kyleblalock9615 anytime man
I'm learning to slide and already have Hawgz 60mm Lil EZs and 63mm Fatty Hawgs. Is it worth "upgrading" to Powell Snakes to learn or are either of these good enough?
I know you mentioned 63mm EZ Hawgs, but wondered if the 60mm Lil EZs are too small and the 63mm Fatty Hawgs are too wide, but I'm probably overthinking things...
The Lil Ez should be good enough. WOrth trying Snakes when you've worn down the Ezs a lot!
@@downhill254skate Thanks for the tip! And for all your great articles and videos!
What do YOU think about the us of a politically
Would a Prism Theory be good to learn light DH/FR on?
Yup!
@@downhill254skate Thanks man!
This video really has me regretting the board I bought T-T Good vid tho. Very informative.
No worries! We grow by learning :)
My setup is a rayne darkside with 50 degree trucks with power peralta snakes with bones red bearings and it is perfect for sliding at 40mph and lower anything higher than that and I’m not doing it with my skills
Sounds good! Pretty dialed :)
Yeah it’s pretty good :)
3rd !
Can I use like Paris trucks but dewedge it from 50 to 40? Precisions are outside my price range 😢
yeah go for it! You'd rather get the 43* versions tho
@@downhill254skate :o i will look into it ^_^ ty for this nice video. It's so detailed.
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Where r u from man those mountains look brazy
Kenya!
@@downhill254skate your country is beautiful