With regard to the 'slow' shifting, I have the current EPS and via the app it's possible to set the speed of shift to slower, normal and race, which is quite a bit quicker than the slower settings. Maybe your bike had the speed set to a slower setting.
As others have stated, you should’ve inquired about the shifting settings. There are three modes, with the raciest setting shifting very quick and hard.
Yes you can, but… I built my SR EPS about the time when iOS 15 was rolled out, which I think was about 5 weeks ago. Not sure if it was the Campag App and iOS 15 incompatibility or the rear derailleur, of which I later found out to be faulty, that caused so much grief. My newly replaced rear derailleur works perfectly but rather than screwing with the app and Custom settings, I now just leave it on factory default of Race Shifting and Standard Lever set up. The SR EPS looks great, more unique than Shimano or SRAM and runs incredibly smoothly… except a few loud clunks downshifting in certain gears. Oh, as for integrating it… your mechanic might curse you a bit… it takes hours….
Cant wait to see which direction the Moral Compass falls by the Cycling Tips Podcast Team on this product after recent episodes. When Campy has an Ex-doper as their tester/Ambassador of the product !!!!!!!!!
I'll pass this question on to the podcast guys. It's actually a good question about brands on a whole. He was there as the guy that was part of the test team, not so much as an ambassador and he's not used in promotion material as far as I know. It's certainly a tough call. All I can say is that he was a pleasure to be around at the launch.
he did his job in an era when you had to or even were expected to dope. He seemed like an incredibly friendly guy with no attitude so get over the doping thing.
Thanks for that Sir, ill stick to my R/SR 12v mechanical. Im sure a bit of software will change the actual shift speed. id have thought that only fast and really fast would be on the test bikes.....
I will have to say a pretty disappointing vid by cycling tips, very on the surface and really told us nothing new. How about how the software works, what can be changed. Response from Campy on the slow shifting? More technical information like SRAM provided for the ASX. The old EPS was lightening quick, If electric is slower than mechanical what is the point? Same with SRAM, slow shifting, well I will not be spending thousands more for a slower shift and more expensive parts.
@@bikeomatic8005 Thanks for the feedback on the audio. It's pretty tough getting good sound while on the bike and with not wanting to keep others in the group waiting.
A lot of guys are saying that there are three shift speed settings to choose from when you’re setting up this group. It’s possible his particular group was set on one of the slower two settings. Seems as if he wasn’t even aware shift speed is adjustable.
Disappointing that there are not real advancements beyond an additional cog at the back........I think most people were hoping for something more radical e,g, wireless....SRAM patents notwithstanding.
Ive got eTap and am hugely disappointed in the battery life.... esp in winter.... plus its sooooo slow. not sure what the advantage of wireless really is, since wiring is something you only ever do once
The latest shimano Di2 disc bar none made the best hood ergonomics, it fits absolutly perfect in the hand, then why on earth is campagnolo eps disc hoods so damn elongated? Sram etap disc isn't any better either but still better than campy!
@@stevensantana8049 I'd say the standard calipers would. But the DM won't. Go check with your local bike shop of I was you. Can't beat a bit of proper bike shop knowledge.
DEFINITELY NOT BUYING Extremely badly overpriced, worst gimmicky in the cycle market, no rim brake options, finicky electronics inappropriate use of carbon fiber
Junction box in 2019... For 5000€....without poweremeter! Campagnolo is the only manufacturer(from holy trio) who doesn’t have own powermeter! In 2019! Performance,racing and no powermeter?! What a joke! Brand new groupset and already dated...lol
the reason to buy a top level groupset with a '''just average powemeeter '' ? inclued stages and quarq are not on the same level of sram red and dura ace groupsets , campagnolo is doing the right thing , the other two are wrong if you want to buy a freaking power meter of the same level of the groupset , you don't buy the stock crank ring and instead you buy the srm campagnolo crank(yes ther is an offical crank for campagnolo by srm) ,same brand and 1% acuracy ,both brands(srm and campagnolo ) with a lot of heritage, if wanna spend less and have similar results you can buy a ng strada by power to max . if you don't care about top acuracy is better buying a pedal based powermeeter(like asissoma or srm ekat) instead of spider based one because with pedal based one you can: 1)use any kind of crank even ultralight ones 2)change chainrigns 15 mintes before the race 3)if on your next bike you are gonna change the ''groupset brand'' you can easily keep your powermeter(they are not cheap ) but most important if on the day of the race(or for any reason ) you don't give a fuck about data and you wanna use your feeling , you don't have to carry around dead wheight,if you leave all there somehow you are gonna check your stats you need just an Allen key to remove power meeter and head unit and break free
With regard to the 'slow' shifting, I have the current EPS and via the app it's possible to set the speed of shift to slower, normal and race, which is quite a bit quicker than the slower settings. Maybe your bike had the speed set to a slower setting.
Vaughan C are you happy with how fast the shifting is when it’s set to race? How does it compare to Di2?
The pinacle of the exelence! Amazing!
As others have stated, you should’ve inquired about the shifting settings. There are three modes, with the raciest setting shifting very quick and hard.
Campagnolo 🔝🔝🔝🇮🇹
Question! I'm thinking of EPS as the component for my next build. However, I wonder if you can customize shifting functionality via Campy App?
Yes you can, but… I built my SR EPS about the time when iOS 15 was rolled out, which I think was about 5 weeks ago. Not sure if it was the Campag App and iOS 15 incompatibility or the rear derailleur, of which I later found out to be faulty, that caused so much grief. My newly replaced rear derailleur works perfectly but rather than screwing with the app and Custom settings, I now just leave it on factory default of Race Shifting and Standard Lever set up. The SR EPS looks great, more unique than Shimano or SRAM and runs incredibly smoothly… except a few loud clunks downshifting in certain gears.
Oh, as for integrating it… your mechanic might curse you a bit… it takes hours….
Did those brake calipers come from 2002?
Campy nut since the 80's. I am curious ,,, where is the electronic Record 12 disc groupo? Electronic only available in the Super Record????
Cant wait to see which direction the Moral Compass falls by the Cycling Tips Podcast Team on this product after recent episodes. When Campy has an Ex-doper as their tester/Ambassador of the product !!!!!!!!!
I'll pass this question on to the podcast guys. It's actually a good question about brands on a whole. He was there as the guy that was part of the test team, not so much as an ambassador and he's not used in promotion material as far as I know. It's certainly a tough call. All I can say is that he was a pleasure to be around at the launch.
he did his job in an era when you had to or even were expected to dope. He seemed like an incredibly friendly guy with no attitude so get over the doping thing.
The firmware has an update that make the shifting very snappy
11:47 Not true, there are very few replace parts in EPS.
I swear they pronounce everything incorrectly on cycling tips "movie star" its infuriating.
Good point Michael!
I just want that Campag tracksuit
They sell them!
Those hoods are ridiculously high 😂
Thanks for that Sir, ill stick to my R/SR 12v mechanical. Im sure a bit of software will change the actual shift speed. id have thought that only fast and really fast would be on the test bikes.....
I will have to say a pretty disappointing vid by cycling tips, very on the surface and really told us nothing new.
How about how the software works, what can be changed. Response from Campy on the slow shifting?
More technical information like SRAM provided for the ASX.
The old EPS was lightening quick, If electric is slower than mechanical what is the point? Same with SRAM, slow shifting, well I will not be spending thousands more for a slower shift and more expensive parts.
Cycling Moven Was meant to say the same thing. And the sound was pretty bad which made it hard to sit through.
@@bikeomatic8005 Thanks for the feedback on the audio. It's pretty tough getting good sound while on the bike and with not wanting to keep others in the group waiting.
Thanks for leaving some feedback. I'll certainly keep it in mind next time at a product launch. There's plenty to come this year.
A lot of guys are saying that there are three shift speed settings to choose from when you’re setting up this group. It’s possible his particular group was set on one of the slower two settings. Seems as if he wasn’t even aware shift speed is adjustable.
those rotors are sexy
Look great and perform great.
Disappointing that there are not real advancements beyond an additional cog at the back........I think most people were hoping for something more radical e,g, wireless....SRAM patents notwithstanding.
Pete is never wrong
Maybe for 2030...lol
👍for sram in this moment
Ive got eTap and am hugely disappointed in the battery life.... esp in winter.... plus its sooooo slow. not sure what the advantage of wireless really is, since wiring is something you only ever do once
Shimano pedals, nice.
The latest shimano Di2 disc bar none made the best hood ergonomics, it fits absolutly perfect in the hand, then why on earth is campagnolo eps disc hoods so damn elongated?
Sram etap disc isn't any better either but still better than campy!
This guy has the strangest accent.
It's called a Scouse accent lol come to Liverpool, UK to hear more
@@pablonescafebar6043 Not sure if you're being serious - he's from Kendal isn't he? Absolutely nothing like a scouse accent
Do they Have a none disc brakes on EPS 12 SPEED? DON'T CARE ABOUT DISC BRAKES AT ALL
they sure do, standard and direct mount. The direct mount are great.
@@DavidEverettshoddycycling got a bianchi Pinella Bron steel is a 2005 bike frame wondering if it fit with the campy 12 speed into the rhis frame?
@@stevensantana8049 I'd say the standard calipers would. But the DM won't. Go check with your local bike shop of I was you. Can't beat a bit of proper bike shop knowledge.
@@DavidEverettshoddycycling ok got it
@@stevensantana8049 so you will put a 4000 dollars groupset on a 50 dollars frame that's very smart lol
That front derailleur is hideous!!!
Just as ugly as sram and shimano, time for 1x12 or maybe 1x13!
Esta de poca este vídeo manto
DEFINITELY NOT BUYING Extremely badly overpriced, worst gimmicky in the cycle market, no rim brake options, finicky electronics inappropriate use of carbon fiber
Man those disc brake shifters are hideous, and let's face it, good looks are the only thing Campy had going for it...
Will you pleeeeeze respect culture and pronounce Movistar & Campagnolo correctly!!??
The first gemeration 11 speed Super Record (mechanical) was beautiful. This 12 speed group has so little personality. Looks like cheap plastic.
Not sure about looks, personal taste.. to me, they are nice looking but most of all, they have the best feel/ergonomics of any group I've tried before
Plastic? Carbon fiber is not plastic.
those hoods are just horrible ;(
Why use Shimano Pedals on a Campagnolo Video?
Proves that shimano makes the best parts.
Jay Santos only proves campag doesnt make pedals lol
I know for a fact that they have campagnolo petals record I never see them at all
Steven Santana they dropped them from the catalog over 10 years ago
Because his personal shoe cleats were shimaNO?
i guess like most people he takes his own shoes and pedals when travelling and borrowing/hiring a bike. i even take my own saddle!
Junction box in 2019...
For 5000€....without poweremeter!
Campagnolo is the only manufacturer(from holy trio) who doesn’t have own powermeter!
In 2019!
Performance,racing and no powermeter?!
What a joke!
Brand new groupset and already dated...lol
the reason to buy a top level groupset with a '''just average powemeeter '' ? inclued stages and quarq are not on the same level of sram red and dura ace groupsets , campagnolo is doing the right thing , the other two are wrong
if you want to buy a freaking power meter of the same level of the groupset , you don't buy the stock crank ring and instead you buy the srm campagnolo crank(yes ther is an offical crank for campagnolo by srm) ,same brand and 1% acuracy ,both brands(srm and campagnolo ) with a lot of heritage, if wanna spend less and have similar results you can buy a ng strada by power to max .
if you don't care about top acuracy is better buying a pedal based powermeeter(like asissoma or srm ekat) instead of spider based one because with pedal based one you can:
1)use any kind of crank even ultralight ones
2)change chainrigns 15 mintes before the race
3)if on your next bike you are gonna change the ''groupset brand'' you can easily keep your powermeter(they are not cheap )
but most important
if on the day of the race(or for any reason ) you don't give a fuck about data and you wanna use your feeling , you don't have to carry around dead wheight,if you leave all there somehow you are gonna check your stats
you need just an Allen key to remove power meeter and head unit and break free