Philip II of Macedon (359 to 336 B.C.E.)
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Music:
"Drums of the Deep," by Kevin MacLeod
"Thinking Music," by Kevin MacLeod
"Requiem," by György Ligeti
"Hallon," by Christian Bjoerklund
Dann, the oracle is one scary square.
that graph needs to be reflected in y= -x
She's squary
Holdin McGroin
Okay, you can fuck off now.
wrong, not scary at all, idts
Haven't updated that in a while. Besides, I don't see how it's that scary. Maybe a little to far down for my own liking, but whatever.
"The bull is crowned, all is done, the sacrificer is ready" *awkward silence*
And then I just imagine one philip all of a sudden going "GREAT! Awesome! See you next tuesday"
wrg, say any nmw andany s ok
I wonder how many of those prophecies couldn't be applied to any possible outcome.
yarpen26 that might be a part of the strategy honestly. As much as it is dramatic, they could still just be trying to retain legitimacy by giving intentionally vague prophecies.
Oracles often gave vague and easily misinterpreted prophecies.
Assuming that the Oracle actually said what she said, and it wasn't invented by later writers as a narrative device, she would have been right no matter what.
Macedon wins, kills Persian Emperor, she right.
Macedon loses, Persians subjugate Greece, she right .
Philip gets axe'd by his angry lover, she right.
@@yunleung2631 just like zodiac shit today
This Alexander kid at the end, he ever amount to anything?
He opened up a youtube channel and became a vlogger.
I think he invented the telephone.
Idk, he might've been the first secretary of treasury in the US?
Think he became a librarian.
Nah, not really. Died of poison or something, only lived to 32.
History explained by means of moving squares in 4K 60FP quality. What a time to be alive!
Ha ha ha
If this was school curriculum shit, I would have taken history
UA-cam became what it is today because of amateurs like him that produced outstandingly good content within a limited budget.
I'd rather watch this than modern day History Channel. I just love me some exquisitely narrated little squares. 😂
Its like im watching logh
Also political science
That's some creepy editing on the oracle.
I've been to Delphi. It's a beautiful though quite a creepy place, but that music gave me chills. :-)
Reminded me of the monolith from 2001.
I really enjoyed that video, but I have to admit, that I really dislike the music. Sorry, I find it disgusting. Happy greetings anyway ;)
well the whole Oracle thing was creepy to begin with. The Oracles in Delphi were believed to have visions after chewing daphne leaves (I obviously mean the plant) and inhaling some sort of incense
Yes, it was a nice touch
I'm honestly a little upset you didn't go over all of Phillip's accomplishments. He's such an underrated figure, and the story of his leading his tiny backwater through a host of trials and tribulations would make an excellent story. Alexander sadly steals all the attention.
That's because Alexander never lost a battle and took the Persian Empire in a decade with much weaker armies.
I agree very much. There should be a series about Phillip. From birth.
@@Euro.Patriot ok this comment is 10 months old so I'm sorry for raising the thread from the dead but Alexander's army was far from weak. It was GREATER than Persia's armys because of Philip
@@zettic6783 I think he means greatly outnumbered. Not lesser than.
@@Euro.Patriot "Much weaker" lmao, are you a citizen of the Diadochi?
Everyone at the time was thinking: History will remember Alexanderos as the son of philippos. It's the opposite now.
Philippos the son of Alexander?
@@cc0767 I'm dead.
@@cc0767 LOL
@@cc0767,lol
You have a LOGH profile picture, I see you're a man of culture.
I love how Philip II was fine with such a ominous answer. But that's how these things work, they give you a response that you can interpret in multiple ways and can never be wrong.
Yeah just shows the oracle was full of shit who couldn't do that its like me saying if there are clouds it will rain
I mean when a bunch of ladies go huff fumes then you take whatever babbling results as meaningful, you're in for a mindfuck.
@@kalebloshbough1899 "Great, that means my ally WILL show up with their army! ONWARDS!"
@@paulcalixte2223and we never heard of general paul again, for the clouds referred to his men and the rain their spilled blood...
MORE BOXES FIGHTING
Will the poor box people ever know peace?
The Boxes are a war like people, they don't want peace
Don't worry, they'll be fighting all over Asia soon!
Well, now every time i hear something about Caesar the first thing my mind comes up with is a red box.
Same! :D
*Sigh*, *starts up Total War*.
*sigh* *throws essay out the window and starts 3-day total war binge* who needs a job anyway?
4 day weekend? No no, 4 day TW session.
hopefully not the lesser warhammer ones
Original RTW, baby! Where my incendiary pigs at?
Please let this type of comment become standard throughout these videos.
Another succinct and intriguing exposition. One hopes this will be a prelude to a series on the Hellenistic Period!
I think it's better for him to let baz do it and focus on Rome by now
He might be trying to set up the background for a series on Pyrrhus and how Rome overtook the Hellenistic cities.
MAKEDONIJA EXIST 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP.
Oto german make Greece before 190 years.
In Greek, the word "Hegemon" means Leader.A glorious and supreme leader. Something like "Caesar"
"hegemony" has been borrowed into English as well
Yet no Phillip salad.
I see a Historia Civilis video. I smile, sit down and watch :D
"I smiled, I sat, I watched" - Julius yo yo, not recounting the events of watching the video but the speed with which it took place.
Mayo because it is true!
And it is great you know and remember :D
When I see another Historia civilis video I sit down and go,"it's been eighty years since that last video." And then I die of a heart attack
wrg, watch , happyx any nmw
Phillip II of Macedon? I like the way this channel is headed 😄
Baz battles did some Macedonian wars videos.
No he didn't.
Ognjen Garić he did its on his playlist
Jan Erjavec No, he didn't I just went through all of his vids. Not a single video on Macedonian wars.
The playlist is called rise of Macedon and it has 7 videos. If you are that blind that u dont see these videos i don't know how to help you.
We are getting "Alexander the great" series :D
You should check out Braz battles. He's been doing a great series on alexander's battles.
Yog Sothoth yeah I saw his videos.
What is Braz battles channel? I tried Braz battles and Brazz battles Alexander but didnt find anything.
@@alexrouhana5754 I did years ago
Creepiest white square I ever seen
So Phillip wanted to create an ancient Greek version of NATO to combat the Persians (Soviets); with himself as the United States.
History is weirdly familiar, sometimes.
I hope your joking
That is correct,League of Corinth was the checkmate move against Persian empire,Phillip was a military genius.Power through unity,no matter if the rest of Greeks like it or not..
Greeks never lost a major/crucial battle as defenders against Persians,but conquering them?Only by uniting all Greek city-states, that would be possible. History has a tension of repeating itself: Actually ,during the cold war many political and military advisors realized the similarity of the situation between the two major forces (Athens vs Sparta / USA vs CCCP) and started to analyze deeply Thucydides' Peloponnesians Wars.
It’s not similar though,
Nato unite a lot of nations. Philip united one nation. The Greeks, actually call us Hellenes, this is our true name.
@@Antonis108 US united the West, Philip united Hellenic cities. Back then many Greek cities hated each other and would not consider each other to be a single nation.
"Guys how about you unite to have big combined army. And who better to lead it and "protect" you than me?" Lol balls on this guy.
The son got it from him.
Phillip was a bit craftier than that. Greece wasn't united with brute force or threats.
He created the League of Corinth to invade Persia.
Then he sent invitations to the most prominent cities.
Then he made the case that instead of fighting each other, they fight the Persians instead.
Virtually all present, accepted and joined the League. Athens took a bit longer. Contemplating the decision a bit more seriously, held a popular vote at home and then joined. After the battle of Chaeronea, Phillip was extremely generous to Athensz concerning the terms after the battle. Returning captives without asking ransom. Even returning the ashes of the fallen. Not touching their government. Not establishing any military presence at all. Not even setting foot on their territory. Even giving them territory they had previously lost to Thebes. Phillip sent his own heir (Alexander) to deliver the prisoners, ashes and assurances.
Phillip didn't force Athens into an alliance. He offered Peace, and buttered up the deal.
Hence the statues that were built in honor of Phillip by the Athenians and why Phillip easily won the popular vote in Athens when he later invited Athens into the Alliance.
As to why Sparta didn't join. Right after that peace deal with Athens was established, and before the Alliance existed, Phillip concluded that Sparta is the primary destabilizing factor in the area. And moved to address that problem.
Phillip wanted Sparta to abandon lands it contested with it's neighbors. The Spartans refused. Then Phillip marched his army and took the territories by force and gave those to Messenia, Megalopolis, Argos, etc. These guys were very happy. Hence why they joined the alliance so willingly.
Sparta's terriories were severely reduced. Hence why they didn't even respond to the invitation Phillip would later send. Nor did Phillip even expect the Spartans to even consider joining.
Phillip also redistributed terriories in other areas. E.g., giving the terriories of Thebes, to the past "victims" of Thebes. Phillip helped many cities certain situations. He was buttered them all up just like he did Athens.
The Alliance was completely consentual. Phillip went out of his way to make sure it was not a forced alliance in order to maintain it's legitimacy.
But, here comes the "but". Like any other League (alllianc), the Corinthian League had rules. Phillip crafted these very miticulously.
He created a situation where the city states of Greece maintained full independence, while his carefully crafted rules caused the members of the league to maintain peace and obedience themselves. They were trapped in a prison with no walls or guards.
E.g., one rule was that if any member attacks another member, all other members have to attack the aggressor. This rule alone stopped all fighting in Greece. The protection this membership granted, made leaving the league very difficult. (Anyone not a member of the league, was obviously free real estate to attack.)
Phillip pacified and subdued Greece with finesse. Without forcing anyone, into anything. (Except maybe Thebes)
@@tylerdurden3722 Wow, that is very informative! I always wondered about the League of Corinth. Phillip was quite the statesman. I wonder how the empire would have gone if Phillip had been in charge.
@@tylerdurden3722 I would say he forced them into joining without being the enforcer:
"If you guys join the league, no one in the lead would attack you."
"Go on"
"Because if you attack another one, everyone else will attack you in return"
"Interesting"
"And if you have a war with someone else not in the league, the league will move to your support"
"Wait but what if I am the aggressor"
"Well we wouldn't ask this question if you all signed the deal, no one can be the aggressor"
".........."
"Come on you know it's best for you, better not deny my offer and something bad happens later that is out of my control while I invade Persia"
"🤷♂️, well better not risk it, you have our support."
Pls Marius and Sula
PLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Ognjen Garić I second this, I need it BADLY.
I third this. There's so much material out there about Caesar and Pompey but just about nothing on the guys that preceded them.
I fourth this!
Ognjen Garić that’d be dope. I think he’s doing octavian now.
@@yunleung2631 Oh really!?
As an avid lover of your channel I am overjoyed with videos covering this topic. As an iranian, I am a bit sad I'm going to have to sit through a detailed telling of how the persians lost this war.
But I shall do it nonetheless because this channel is just so damn interesting. Always so well summarised.
Also about this assassination. I believe plutarch has reported that Alexander blamed it on the persian eunuch Bagoas right? So are there any evidence that the persians caused this or was it all a ploy to rally macedon against persia?
I hope you will be able to cover a bit about whats happening on the persian side of things and not just the alexander side. Since unfortunately there isn't enough videos being made about the persian perspective. If not, maybe a series on cyrus the great?
DBeiki listen to Dan Carlins podcast called hardcore history he has a three part series called King of kings describing Persian history up to the defeat by Alexander the Great. It worth a listen although it's very long (around 13 hours but you can listen to it while you do other stuff.)
And he covers the Persian perspective
Oh very interesting, thanks man, I definitely will check it out.
DBeiki no problem
I've never lived in Iran, only visited. But I can tell you, they don't want to teach people about anything pre-Islam or anything monarchic since that would threaten the government if the people learned about the glorious past of Iran.
Therefore, this is exactly why I want the west to cover Persian perspective since the Iranian government certainly won't.
Also, I grew up in France and we didn't hear the Persian perspective of things either. We were told all this propaganda of how the Greeks stood for liberty and democracy when they fought the Persians who were essentially the evil or at least just the enemy of western ideals.
Unfortunately, in schools it seems we only hear the ancient history of Iran from the same few sources, which I'm sorry to say most were Greeks who hated Persia.
And you never hear stories such as how Cyrus the great created the first declaration of human rights and abolished slavery before any other nation.
That Dan Carlins podcast +therandom894 suggested is a tiny diamond in a sea of rough when it comes to coverage about this period of history.
Just so you are aware of the effects of your work: when i saw this uploaded my mood suddenly changed to joyful calmness. In the grand domino of emotions, decisions and actions that constitute a human's life, you just contributed with a good emotion. Who knows where that may lead? Anyway keep up.
*and so begins the story of Alexander the great....*
Olympias ordered Philip killed so that her son, Alexander, would inherit the throne, and not the sons of Philip and his new wife
hey!
How it alexander was the son of Zeus
Is Zeus real exist
I don't think it was Olympias but the Athenians or even the Persians because it wasn't a woman 's kind assassination. It would be easier for her to poison him or to use a servant girl or a love-bedroom-slave (he was very active) than a soldier- bodyguard in public.
@@eleniasimop not all women kill like that
@@amari6229 but a royal woman would have easier access to these methods than a bodyguard
I´m a simple man. I followed the mighty imperator historia civilis on his road to glory and divinity through all these years and I won´t stop now.
1 discarded ex-lover disliked this video.
100th like on this comment. Do I get a prize?
no such thing as discarx or dislx or lovx or not
I think you can do a little bit of a collab with Baz Battles about this, I since have watched most of his videos regarding Alexander and his father.
Hear,hear
they have a different style. to watch baz battles you have to already be familiar with the context. here he explains it all
Depends, I hardly know the history of Macedonia and Alexander and yet I follow through Baz's videos as well as I did with this video. I thought it'd be fun to have Historia Civilis narrate the battles and going through the historical details with extreme precision
Isaac DragonDerp I feel like it would be a nice collaboration because one can follow the politics and one can follow the warfare.
Bs video
Your end music is such a banger... Ive watched all your videos five times by now, and I still throw my hands up alone in my bedroom and dance it out every time it comes up
Sometimes he ends on a pretty dark note and then that music comes, makes me laugh so hard.
Yeeess!! Alexander is my favourite historical figure, can't wait to see the videos of your take on him, if that's next! Hopefully it is.
Thank you for explicitly mentioning the whole Spartan irrelevance thing by the time of the Macedonian Conquests. Many people often have misconceptions about Sparta being powerful and influential for most of Antiquity, when in reality they only embodied those characteristics until the mid-4th Century BCE, when they dramatically and permanently declined.
They were pretty badass while it lasted though, I think that, besides the 300 movie of course, is why people have this conception.
What a perfect video to introduce us to an Alexander series. And I love the new mic. Yours is truly quality material, and I hecking love it.
I've been to the Tomb of Phillip the 2nd. It's in a random village in Northern Greece called Vergina. His armour is there and his shield and sword. His shield had an epic wooden carving of Achilles fighting the Amazon Queen on the front.
Neat
Vergina is the new name from 1922, when greek goverment brought settlers from asia minor on the property of expelled macedonians. The older name of the place is Kutlesh near Palatitza ( small palace)
Lol, Vergina huh? Is there a nearby village called Peanis too?
@@Craterus123 hahah cope hard 🤫
@@Craterus123 you slavs were never there in ancient times greek have always been there
Yes immediately. Please do more vids related to Alexander. Your channel kicks ass.
I swear, my life improves exponentially with every video you post. This part of history is gonna get crazy, and I can't wait to see the next part of this series ( or anything else you might feel like doing). Keep up the good work
are you going to cover ceasers civil war in the ceaser series?
Dds211 the Gaius caeser and pompey civil war, hes done the battle of pharslaus and has done his gaul campaign and britain campaigns
Caesar*
Learn the names and proper spelling before you join the big boys.
Geography Nerd ah shit didnt notice it autocorrects on my phone to ceaser on my phone
Well, you can fix that. Also, I recommend using their praenomen and nomen for Caesar, as there are many Caesars. (I.e. Gaius Julius Caesar; Augustus Caesar; Gaius Julius Caesar Germanicus, etc...)
"Phillip wasnt interested in some measly peace treaty, he was interested in domination". *Thinks about steak*
One of the greatest Greek commanders who wanted peace and unity between Greeks... even using war.
ALEXANDER THE GREAT and PHILIP --- M A C E D O N I A N S ! ! !
Keep working guys awesome videos!!!
This channel is honestly my most favorite I've watched every video like 20 times
Finaly i can wach boxes figthing in 4k!
Thank you for fulfilling my lust of these kinds of videos... time to wait another month
Make videos about Alexandeeeeer!!!!! Also about the Persian Wars, the Peloponnesian War and the Wars of the Diadochi!!!! I suggest the battles of: Aegospotami, Lefktra, Gavgamila, Ipsos and Ydaspes
Philip made a big mistake imo. Treating his bodyguard poorly was not very nice, but that was not the mistake I am talking about. He should have removed him from his guard, even if that would be even less nice, you just can not allow people who might hate you in your guard.
He could have given him another job, maybe even give him some land or something, so he doesn't spread too many bad rumors.
Yes. Finally Historia is ready to give the Hellenic period some love.
Will he get into the successor states after being done with Alexander ? One can only hope
The visuals are very simplistic, which I like because it makes it easy to understand. Keep up the hard work!
Awww, it's a shame you can't go over Philip's accomplishments in more detail. When he got the throne, Macedon was in the process of being screwed over by every neighbour they had at the time, and he just went out and cleared them all out, reforming his military, joining the Sacred War, becoming leader of the Thessalian League, ... All this while defeating and catching pretenders to the Macedonian throne, supported by anyone with an interest in the region.
Also, 10000 Philippis, Philippopolises and other Philip-named-cities. Because subtlety wasn't his thing, I guess.
And all this while also managing diplomacy with Thebans, Athenians, and also the neighboring peoples.
Please do Alexander next!!!!
Love the oracle's creepy song. And your audio sounds awesome - a new mic or something has really improved this episode.
Alexander the Great! His name struck fear into the hearts of men!
It actually means protector of men
Do Hannibal Barca please. Or his father. Or just about anyone from either side of the punic wars actually.
Anytime I see a new video up I know its going to be a good day.
Great channel with alot of detail..i know you get dozens of requests..i just hope you do alexander ..but continue into the wars of the diadochi. The wars of antigonus and eumenes are such fascinating figures and its sadly overlooked.
Why do I love these animated history thingies so much...
Very happy that you cover the Hellenic histories. Arrian was a great historian and I hope to see his influence on your accounts of Alexander's exploits. Also Ligeti is never a bad choice. Nor is Xenakis a bad choice either....
your videos are very enjoyable and interesting, you shall make them more often i think, at least two videos in every week instead of one :) next one about marius and sula pls
I wish you would upload more.
Philip II is so underrated. Thank you so much for making this video!!
Philip of Macedonia - the most underestimated and most forgotten person in history.
Such genius and great leader, king, reformer, builder, innovator, consolidator, etc...
Tribute !
I love that you clearly enunciated "intents and purposes" GGWP
I have read that the ascension of Alexander to the throne was not without peril, I believe his mother was his guardian in some respects, that Phillip had another wife who’s son could have been an heir and, after some shenanigans, the mother of the competing heir was dealt with in a brutal way: she was roasted to death (not burned, many people burned at the stake actually die from smoke inhalation, when a person is roasted, it’s quite brutal). Maybe that was something that happened before Phillip’s assassination.
Great video! I suggest for the next video to talk a bit about the military reforms (fighting style, weaponry, technology and organization). Since Alexander inherited (and did not build) a well oiled military machine ripe for his conquests.
Awesome!
you're the first non-patron comment congrats
vesteel do you think he should collaborate with alternate history hub or extra credits?
Historia Civilis always delivers.
well, good for Alexander. I'm sure he'll go on to accomplish truly...good things
love this channel it never fails to entertain me when I'm board
Michael Gomez white or black?
On this occasion, he [Alexander] made a very long speech to the Thessalians and the other Greeks, and when he saw that they encouraged him with shouts to lead them against the Barbarians, he shifted his lance into his left hand, and with his right appealed to the gods, as Callisthenes tells us, praying them, if he was really sprung from Zeus, to defend and strengthen the Greeks.
[Plutarch. Alexander (ed. Bernadotte Perrin) XXXIII]
2. Plutarch “Alexander”
a. “ One of the things that humans admitt the most , is that Alexander was from his father’s side Heracledes with Karanos being his forfather and from his mother’s side Aiakides from Neoptolemos”
The line from Heracles is: Heracles , Yllos , Kleodaios , Arinomachos , Timenos , Kissios , Thestios , Meropos , Aristodameidas , Feidos and Karanos who took Argos as his kingdom when the Dorians returned to Peloponnese.
Neoptolemos was the legendary son of Achilleas who went to Epirus after the fall of Troy and founded the kingdom of the Molossians with his wife Andromachi.
b. “And the supervisor of all his tutors and teachers was Leonidas , a strict and ethical man relative of Olympias.....but he who claimed the title of Alexander’s paidagog was Lysimachos from Akarnania.”
c. “And he took with him the Iliad , the version of Aristotelis and he placed it always under his pillow together with his knife.... and he ordered Arpalos to sent him to Asia some books and he sent him the books of Filistos and many of the tragedies of Euripides , Sofokles , Aischylos and also the dithirambs of Telestos and Filoxenos.”
c. “ ...and not only he -Alexander-forgived the city of Athens but he ordered the Athenians to be prepaired to become the hegemons of the Hellens if something happened to him”.
d. “And in Isthmos were the Hellens gathered and decided by vote to campaign with Alexander against the Persians , he was declaired their hegemon”.
e. “And announcing his victory to the Hellens and especially the Atheneans he sent them 300 enemy shields with the inscription: Alexander son of Filippos and the Hellens , exept from the Lakedaimonians , from the barbarians that live in Asia.”
f. “There is in Lykia , near the city of the Xanthians , a river that they say that changed its rute all of a sudden and from its bottom a bronze tablet emerged with ancient letters on it that revealed that the dominion of the Persians will be ended by the Hellens.”
g.”And then Alexander talked with the Thessalians and the rest of the Hellens and as soon as they gave him courage by shouting at him to lead them against the barbarians , he took his spear with his left arm while with his right he praised the Gods to help and strengthen the Hellens if he was trully the son of Zeus.”
h. “ But Alexander jumped and shouted in the Macedonian dialect (ανεβοα Μακεδονιστι) ...... but Kleitos returned and entered from another door and with great contempt he started pronouncing lyrics from Eyripides’ Andromache: ...what a bad habbit there is in Hellas! When the army (the soldiers ) wins a battle and puts trophys , they don’t think that it was a job done by those who worked so hard , but the general takes all the glory , who is only one amongst myriads just waving his spear and without doing anything else he takes most of the fame....
The hint against Alexander was obvious and so Alex took a spear from a guard and killed Kleitos.
Macedonians were 1000% Hellens , not distant relatives of the Hellens. The Frygians , the Lydians , the Karians and other nations of Minor Asia , the Thracians , the Illyrians and the Etruscans , all those were “ distant relatives “ of the Hellens , even Romans aplly to that category. The Macedons and the Epirots WERE Hellens of the northern branches and tribes , speaking Hellenic dialects and sharing the same elements of culture , religion , tradition with their southern brothers.
The Thesprotians , the Molossians , the Chaonians , the Greeks , the Selloi and other Hellenic tribes lived in Epirus. The Tymfaioi , the Elimiotans , the Orestai , the Eordoi , the Lyngistai , the Pierrians , the Vottiaians , , the Perraiveans and many others lived in Macedonia.
Those northern Hellens retained the “old fashioned” Mycenean feudal form of state , with local lords and a king and never entered the “civilized” and state of the art world of the “ City State” like the southern Hellens did. Later the new form of the “Κοινο” , the Common of the cities will be apllied in areas like Epiros with the “Common of the Epirots” , Aetolia , Akarnania etc.
So lets dive now into the ancient sources and see who the Macedonians were.
1.Herodotus , “Histories”
V 22 “ Hellens are the descendants of Perdikkas as they themselves claim. That i am in a position to know too and that i will prove in my History , that they are Hellens”
I56 “And from Istaiotis the Dorians after beeing kicked out of their country by the Kadmeians (The Thebeans) went to live in Pindus under the name Macedon (Μακεδνον ).”
VIII 43 “ And the Sikyonians gave 18 ships , the Epidavrians 10 , the Troizinians 5 and the Ermionians 3. All of them , exept for the Ermionians are nation Dorian and Macedonian and were the last to move from Erineos and Pindus and Dryopida.”
V20 “....and tell to your king that sent you here that a Hellen , the vice king of Macedons , made you a good dinner and a good bed”. Alexander the first , son of king Amyntas to the Persian ambassadors. Later that night he slaughtered them all.
IX 32,2 The Macedonians are listed amongst the 5 myriad Hellenic allies of the Persians and not with the 30 myriad barbaric allies VIII 113.
IX 45 “.... men of Athens , i will say to you those words and ask you to keep them secret , only to Pausanias you must say them so that i will not be in danger . Because i would not speak to you if my worries for the whole of Hellas were not huge. Because i am and always have been Hellen and i would never wanted to see Hellas loose its freedom and become a slave.” Alexander the first in the camp of the Hellens -as a Persian ally - warning the Hellens before the battle of Plataiai.
V22 “ Furthermore the organizers of the Olympic games that were held amongst Hellens , made that decision. ... and when Alexander (the first ) proved his ancestry from Argos the judges admited that he was Hellen and so he took part in the race of one stadium and finished together with the first.” For that win Alexander was honoured with a hymn by the poet Pindarus who only made hymns for Hellens.
Soon i will provide parts from Plutarch's "Alexander" and Arrian's "Alexander's anavasis".
And yes they are proving , even more LOUDLY AND BEYOND ANY DOUBT EVEN FOR THE MOST RETARDED PERSON IN THE WORLD , that the Macedonians were 1.000.000% Hellens.
And probably the most fanatic of all Hellens!
Σου στελνω να εχεις και αλλα να τους τα τριβεις στη μουρη.
Χθες διαβαζα Στραβων τα Γεωγραφικα ,Δυτικη Ελλαδα , και βρηκα αλλες δυο αναφορες οτι οι Μακεδονες ηταν Ελληνες.
Ερρωσθε αδελφε!
@@Phaedon53 MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES from KING FILIP .
eat yellow.
@@tatjanavelkova5814
You make no sense.
Try again.
The city of Byzantium? What a great name, I'm sure it will never change.
Rather nice, but I didn't get a sense of when these events were happening; the broad timeline in the video title doesn't help matters.
I already do (I read far too much on Classics), but the video itself doesn't explain the timeline well. However, your channel does look interesting (it seems so rare to find any other Classics education channels on UA-cam, one of my goals is to help fill that void), so I'll definitely check it out.
Will do!
Please never stop making videos.
*Insert clicking off of Porn joke here*
It's no joke.
Capitalism in action baby!
I did? lol
WHOOOOOOOOA HAHAHAHAHA UR SO ORIGINAL I HAVENT SEEN THIS COMMENT BEFORE ON EVERY VIDEO!
its making fun of people who actually make those comments
I'm excited I was hoping you'd do some videos on Alexander. This is my favorite channel on UA-cam by the way keep up the good work
I think it should be more clear in this video, that the Macedonians were a greek tribe, who spoke the same language and believed in the same gods and customs as the rest of the greek tribes. I am not some kind of nationalist, I just feel some people aren't really educated on this subject. There is a quote from an ancient greek historian "εστιν μεν ουν ελλας και η μακεδονια" which roughly translates to "macedonia is another part of greece".
davenport no they weren't greek tribe... macedonians share same ancestors (pelasgians) with greeks
SKanderbeG #1450 then why every Macedonian monument has the Greek language written in it,the name Phillip is Greek as Alexander,the era that followed Alexanders conquests was called the Hellenistic times and Greek became the linqua franca of the Middle East?
@@allstarlord9110 FILIP and ALEXANDER --- MACEDONIANS.
jedi c'varke.
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A L E K S A N D A R and F I L I P -- MACEDONIAN NAMES.
english : PHILIP and ALEXANDER THE GREAT ! ! !
Wow that video filled in a lot of gaps for me -thanks!!
Hmm. What a weird city, that Byzantium. It probably won't amount to much.
Continue this series
Here comes ma boy Alexander!
This is quite possibly my favorite channel on youtube. Please keep this content coming, my day brightens a lot every time I see a new video come out!
Make a video about Alexander!!!!
Missed opportunity for epic one-liners when Philip II sent this message to Sparta asking for submission: "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city."
Sparta responded with a single word: "If."
That's why Philip decided to leave them alone :P
A really cool story, just one thing...They were left alone because he didn't care. Sparta was pretty irrelevant at that point in history.
>sees new Historia Civilis
>grab bowl and weed
>HISTORICAL BOX FIGHT
Almost as uninteresting as your comment
great work man.
Just asking.... When will the next "His Year" video come out?
OMG an upload, slap my ass and call me Sally thank you Senpai!
Somehow we see the extent of the damage caused in combat represented by some boxes.. About time Historia Civilis made another video, I like how he's moving to Macedon now
Philip one of the greatest greek generals in history🇬🇷💪💪
PHILIP IS MACEDONIAN. VERY NICE ! ! !
Superb job. I really really like this one.
will you ever do a video focused on the war with the dacians?
Though I wish it too, it's unlikely that he'll ever do it anytime soon, I mean, he's barely at Caesar now, he'd need to get all the way to Trajan for him to get there.
Just finished the last video, feels good man.
Some other history videos say that in the last years of Phillips life he became much less ambitious and more of a drunk which infuriated the officers and Alexander who said that Phillp wanted to conquer Asia but could not even travel from one end of the room to the other or whatever is this true?
That was just one night that he drunk a lot. Alexander also drunk a lot. This does not mean that Phillip the next morning or when he was back sober wasn't great. Phillip is great. There should be a more analytical video on Phillip. He did many more things than the things presented here.
@@innosanto........................... zuj .
u S'umadija.
simply brilliant. thankyou very much for this...
Good video, though I don't like that you keep referring ton the city states as the Greeks, since Macedon was also a Greek state.
MAKEDONIJA 25 CENTURIES IS MAKEDONIJA. @ you in... rocks.
Dude, I'm still not done with my total war campaign that I started 2 weeks ago when your other video came out.
Phillip II to the Spartans:"If I conquer Sparta your men will be killed and your women and children shall be slaves!" Spartans:"IF" Phillip II and his son Alexander the Great were like: oh never mind, fuck that!
"Oh never mind, fuck that! Sparta is a shell of its for self"
Spartan soilders when they see a untrained 5 year old begging for mercy: *P A T H E TI C*
Man that spooky sound whenever oracle is mentioned that i didnt notice beforehand.
Who the hell has the audacity to dislike this video
Bert Karlsson Sparta
@@merrittanimation7721 ok it's been 2 years but you still made my day.
Nice to see Ligeti's music used
Your ancestors invaded Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did US great harm, though WE had done them no prior injury […] I have been appointed hegemon of the Greeks […]
(Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II,14,4)
I cannot wait for a series on Alexander.
Oh yeah I forgot this wasn't just a Roman history channel
Great choice of music during the death of Philip.
"Philip was now firmly in control of the Greek Peninsula."
Except Sparta.
This IS SPARTA!
Yeah but Sparta was in great population decline and also the social model had been shattered after the Helots had revolted and left the city. Sparta started to have big problems decades before 371 and the battle of Lefktra, but that battle 371BC was the official end.
@@innosanto i'm imagining your dog in the profile saying this i almost died i think
Thank you for changing your mic! Sound quality sounds much better, keep up the great work!