Demosthenes: Greatest Enemy of Philip of Macedon

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    • @lalruatdikavarte7943
      @lalruatdikavarte7943 4 роки тому

      Where I came from we all tell the truth about our victory never lose a battle or war. All the peoples will always learn the writen by the victory not the loser.

    • @williamtheconqueror7807
      @williamtheconqueror7807 4 роки тому +9

      Demosthenes: This Alexander kid doesn't seem too threatening. I mean he couldn't stand against the Persians, right?

    • @aniketsojitra876
      @aniketsojitra876 4 роки тому +5

      It was really special and informative ❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 4 роки тому

      Yaa!

  • @dannythehonestgamer6051
    @dannythehonestgamer6051 4 роки тому +1066

    Demosthenes: "I am against any empire building in Greece. As long as it is not Athens that does it. If Athens do some empire building then it is ok."

    • @jeffreycheng5141
      @jeffreycheng5141 4 роки тому +130

      Americans and their "empire"

    • @sauron7839
      @sauron7839 4 роки тому +220

      Jeffrey Cheng Literally everyone who ever had an empire

    • @alchemist6819
      @alchemist6819 4 роки тому +17

      @@jeffreycheng5141 true

    • @alchemist6819
      @alchemist6819 4 роки тому +16

      @@sauron7839 also true😅😅

    • @Ideo7Z
      @Ideo7Z 4 роки тому +21

      @@jeffreycheng5141 And eventually China, for like the second or third time.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 4 роки тому +547

    Current Video: "A relatively obscure man named Alexander."
    Older Video: "Yes, THAT Alexander."

    • @frodoswaggins3132
      @frodoswaggins3132 4 роки тому +43

      He WAS relatively obscure. He hadn’t done much yet, just serving in his father’s army.

    • @apexnext
      @apexnext 3 роки тому +3

      Love the Older Video reference! 😂

  • @alansalas1880
    @alansalas1880 4 роки тому +233

    Demosthenes: Finally that King is dead, time to bring Athens to a new golden age.
    Obscure Young Man Alexander: i'm about to end this man's whole career

  • @Farazormal1
    @Farazormal1 4 роки тому +350

    His distaste of Phillip as a "barbarian" because he's from Macedon seems rather strange given that his mother was half Scythian.

    • @huntermad5668
      @huntermad5668 4 роки тому +94

      Since Macedonian and the even more northern state above it got the spots in Olympic, we could only assume that was all rherotic.
      Even mornarchy was't all that strange for Athen with some city states did have kings in some ways.

    • @olenickel6013
      @olenickel6013 4 роки тому +58

      It was less about heritage and more about being a citizen of the right Polis. As Athenian, other Greek citystates were slightly inferior, but beyond that everyone was Barbarian, not out of bloid, but because they weren't proper Greek citizens.

    • @dritanbakiaj6810
      @dritanbakiaj6810 4 роки тому +16

      The population of Macedonia was thracian.the royal family might be Greek.

    • @lavoenterprise610
      @lavoenterprise610 4 роки тому +26

      @@dinaroid what makes you so sure? Any academic sources?

    • @philipii5386
      @philipii5386 4 роки тому +5

      Only Men had citizenschip in anciant greece.

  • @johnwicksfoknpencil
    @johnwicksfoknpencil 4 роки тому +38

    A father builds a superb rifle, unmatched in power and versatility - but dies before he can use his masterpiece to its full potential. His son, however, is a brilliant marksman and puts his father’s creation to legendary use the likes of which the world will remember forever.

    • @ThanasiKarras
      @ThanasiKarras Рік тому +3

      legendary commentary, no one wants to admit it but Alexander was a "trust fund baby" of the ancient world. I'm not saying he wasn't masterfulz hardworking and brave and a great leader. But we anyone who's studied history knows it was Philips trained army that he used to conquer all of that land

    • @TheStarkman123
      @TheStarkman123 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ThanasiKarras Alexander was a very skilled tactician though, so it's not owed just to the army his father built up. It's like giving a $1,000 tool to an incompetent artisan, the value and quality of the tool isn't going to make any difference to the quality of the work if the artisan doesn't know how to use it. Alexander wasn't that artisan.

    • @lephinor2458
      @lephinor2458 29 днів тому

      I find that almost all famous Greats usually had a great predecessor that helped build up the kingdom.

  • @davebowman9000
    @davebowman9000 4 роки тому +75

    Demosthenes: So glad Philip got murdered! Zeus has blessed us!
    Alexander The Great, who believed himself to be a Demi-God, son of Zeus: Lol, not you dude

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto 3 роки тому +20

    Phillip was brilliant. There needs to be series on Phillip with 2 or 3 episodes.

  • @animeyahallo3887
    @animeyahallo3887 4 роки тому +81

    The last time I was this early Aristotle is still teaching Alexander things about the world.

  • @TheG1995
    @TheG1995 4 роки тому +156

    -Demosthenes, Philip is dead he has been murdered.
    -Great now we can reestablish our old Athenian empire since Macedon will fall into obscurity again.
    -But sir, there is that young son of Philip i think Alexander was his name.
    -Beh, all good what can a little boy do....

    • @hamdaanchalky7724
      @hamdaanchalky7724 4 роки тому +9

      Watch Alexander’s speech
      ‘Greatest speech in history’

    • @নামনেই-ঞ২র
      @নামনেই-ঞ২র 3 роки тому +4

      Little boy: Destroyes Thebes and subjugates Athens.

    • @vmro9446
      @vmro9446 3 роки тому +2

      Alexander was a Macedonian not a Greek Arrian
      [Book II - Battle of Issus] "Darius' Greeks fought to thrust the Macedonians back into the water and save the day for their left wing, already in retreat, while the Macedonians, in their turn, with Alexander's triumph plain before their eyes, were determined to equal his success and not forfeit the proud title of invincible, hitherto universally bestowed upon them. The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian." [p.119]

    • @ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή
      @ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή 2 роки тому

      @@vmro9446 Macedonians were Greek dorians

    • @vmro9446
      @vmro9446 2 роки тому

      @@ΗκαλήΧαμογελαστή the truth is Greeks have nothing to do with Macedonia! the Macedonians Macedonised the Koine language the new language was called Alexandrian or Macedonic, the Greeks didn’t like that, they tried to liberate themselves from the Macedonians (the lamian war) and were defeated then they allied with Rome destroyed the macedonian kingdom and became Romaioi, the Macedonians never lost their identity in Roman Macedonia or in the Byzantine empire, they never were assimilated by the Romans the Macedonians were assimilated by the Slavs, the Greeks claim the Byzantine empire was Greek but it wasn’t hellenised until 600ad, the Macedonian Sklavini drove out Roman Byzantine rule from the Macedonian region and established a state in 500ad that’s 100 years before the Byzantines even adopted the Greek language, the state lasted to 700ad by that time the slavs absorbed the Macedonian’s they absorbed their culture and in that amalgamation a people was gradually formed todays Macedonians, the Macedonian Sklavinian state was again destroyed by Greeks their Roman allies and bulgaria, but was revived by the Mijak King Samoil who led the Macedonian Sklavinian Bogomoil Kingdom, he stood against the Bulgarian and Greek Orthodox kingdoms

  • @scoringbox2176
    @scoringbox2176 4 роки тому +47

    A seriously underrated aspect from these types of videos from this channel is the artwork. Well done!

  • @schroedingersdog7965
    @schroedingersdog7965 4 роки тому +44

    08:35 "Perhaps the Macedonian king would be a reasonable man if granted his immediate desires . . ."
    It sounds as if Neville Chamberlain was a student of Demosthenes.

    • @Madhattersinjeans
      @Madhattersinjeans 4 роки тому

      This is speculation on part of the video writer btw. But it seems possible given the events that occured.

    • @swaminathanbalakrishnan5182
      @swaminathanbalakrishnan5182 4 роки тому +2

      @@josecipriano3048 Eh? Don't tell me we were ready - crushed in the first year.

  • @tylerchen3797
    @tylerchen3797 4 роки тому +20

    Imagine you are so powerful, influential, and feared that not only you and your son are remembered until the end of time but your one minor ememy gets the same treatment just for having the balls to talk smack about you.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 4 роки тому +3

      Demosthenes was the greatest orator. Its not Phillip

    • @romanvalkansproductions5376
      @romanvalkansproductions5376 4 роки тому +6

      @@innosanto Demosthenes was an opportunitist. He was the classic Greek politician that we still have until nowadays.
      He has master the art of language and he uses it so masterful and deceitful to guide the masses towards his own ambitions and interests. In other words a Demagogue (coming from the words demos and agogos, meaning people and guide, and guess what, there is a reason it's a Greek word)

  • @umiddey8714
    @umiddey8714 4 роки тому +148

    This is the literal personification of "a pen is mightier than a sword".

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 4 роки тому +19

      He even died using the poison he put in his pen. His countrymen still suffered through the might of the sword, though.

    • @bluemountain4181
      @bluemountain4181 4 роки тому +22

      Is it? Demosthenes was very unsuccessful, every time he raised a rebellion it was crushed

    • @umiddey8714
      @umiddey8714 4 роки тому +2

      @@SeymoreSparda Yeah this is what pushed me to make the comment, about him dying from sucking ink from a pen. Literally did what a sword couldn't.

    • @pharaohsmagician8329
      @pharaohsmagician8329 4 роки тому +4

      @@bluemountain4181 He was a brilliant leader of his people but you're correct every step he took resulted in failure. But that's not to lay blame at his hands, he was excellent and made perfect choices but the rest of Athens wouldn't budge or listen to him even after proof after proof they would have been better off listening to him. For decades he made good calls and he failed because Athens grew so large and mighty they were arrogant and vain

  • @petrosb52
    @petrosb52 4 роки тому +83

    Interesting topics for next episodes about Greek history : a series about the peloponnesian war, Cyrus anabasis, Corinthian war, Alcibiades biography

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 роки тому +5

      Cyrus anabasis = startan expedition into asia minor

    • @Agras14
      @Agras14 4 роки тому +2

      @@christermi Wait, are you referring to Clearchus or Agesilaus II? Because the second didn't took part in Cyrus's expedition, while the first commanded (initially) a force of Greek mercenaries that ended up close to Babylon before the famous march back.

    • @lazmartel7305
      @lazmartel7305 4 роки тому

      Would love to see them cover Alkiviades

    • @sunofpeter2
      @sunofpeter2 4 роки тому

      Yesssss Please!!!!!

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 роки тому +5

      @@Agras14 Agesilaus of course . I've read Xenophon's history , according to whom Agesilaus was a charismatic leader , and he , even though he was an exiled athenian , admired his high ideals and devotion to hellenism .

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 4 роки тому +216

    Demosthenes isn’t as lucky as Sun Yat Sen in uprisings...

    • @RodolfoGaming
      @RodolfoGaming 4 роки тому +2

      That's why you didn't rule in a democratic government.

    • @day2148
      @day2148 4 роки тому +28

      Sun Yat-sen is lucky? The man never once held any real power, since he kept getting couped by military commanders. Then after he built his own military, he died right before the Northern Expedition launched.

    • @RodolfoGaming
      @RodolfoGaming 4 роки тому +8

      @@day2148 He is lucky compared to Demosthenes that was my interpretation anyway

    • @jhoffman106
      @jhoffman106 4 роки тому

      It's an honor to see you here your majesty.

    • @NumbNutts
      @NumbNutts 4 роки тому

      Who?

  • @kkyrezis
    @kkyrezis 4 роки тому +64

    Sparta fought against athens fot the "freedom of greeks"(peloponnesian war),then athens fought againsts the spartans to ,again,"free the greeks"(corinthian war),then they both fought againsts thebes and later macedon for the freedom of greece...

    • @aleksandarkaradakoski3258
      @aleksandarkaradakoski3258 4 роки тому +2

      Philip conquered Greece.

    • @The30Free
      @The30Free 4 роки тому +1

      Aleksandar Karadakoski yet here we stand

    • @enyalios316
      @enyalios316 4 роки тому +15

      @@aleksandarkaradakoski3258 Diodorus Siculus on the destruction of Thebes: "So it was that many terrible things befell the city. Greeks were mercilessly slain by Greeks, relatives were butchered by their own relatives, and even a common dialect induced no pity."
      ~Diod., 17.13
      (διὸ καὶ πάθη πολλὰ καὶ δεινὰ κατὰ τὴν πόλιν ὁρᾶν ἦν γινόμενα: Ἕλληνες γὰρ ὑφ᾽ Ἑλλήνων ἀνηλεῶς ἀνῃροῦντο καὶ συγγενεῖς ὑπὸ τῶν κατὰ γένος προσηκόντων ἐφονεύοντο, μηδεμίαν ἐντροπὴν τῆς ὁμοφώνου διαλέκτου παρεχομένης)

    • @katask7849
      @katask7849 4 роки тому +12

      @@aleksandarkaradakoski3258 nope he united greece
      How could macedonia (a greek kingdom) conquer Greece?how did it conquer it shelf?

    • @aleksandarkaradakoski3258
      @aleksandarkaradakoski3258 4 роки тому

      @@katask7849 The battle of Chaeronea 338 bc.

  • @MagneticDonut
    @MagneticDonut 4 роки тому +22

    YES! This channel is so incredible! As is Greek history. Thank you so much

  • @hopeindarktimes9535
    @hopeindarktimes9535 4 роки тому +11

    I was utterly happy upon hearing the news about more videos about "Greek world". 😀
    I can't wait! I love ancient Greece!

  • @JimH-vk8ft
    @JimH-vk8ft 4 роки тому +42

    The rabble: ‘Haha, what’ve you got, rocks for brains?’ Young Demosthenes, with pebbles in mouth: ‘...nooooooo’

  • @Geopoliticus
    @Geopoliticus 4 роки тому +37

    Kings and Generals, you have become the Plutarch of UA-cam.

  • @justinbell1596
    @justinbell1596 4 роки тому +41

    PLEASE for the love of god do a video about Timoleon!!!
    He stands out as one of the true hero’s amongst all of the ancient Greeks! It’s incredible how little known his story is!
    Please Please Please- do a video about Timoleon!
    When Timoleon’s brother seized the acropolis in Corinth, Timoleon took part in his assassination and the restoration of “liberty” in Corinth!
    When Syracuse petitioned Corinth for help against the Tyrant Hicetas, they sent Timoleon, who with a small force of mercenaries defeated the tyrant! Dionysus II, the overthrown tyrant, still occupied the citadel, where Timoleon negotiated a surrender, fully freeing Syracuse! He tore down fortress of the tyrant and built a courthouse in its place. He repopulated Sicily with Greeks, establishing democracies in depopulated areas..
    When Hicetas petitioned Carthage for help, marching on Syracuse with and overwhelming force, Timoleon led the defense and marched out to. Set the energy in open field. His ally’s abandoned him, yet he pulled off a stunning victory despite being outnumbered more than 6-1!
    From a Syracusan at Timoleons funeral-
    "The Syracusan people solemnise, at the cost of 200 minae, the funeral of this man . . .They have passed a vote to honour him for all future time. . .,-because, after having put down the despots, subdued the foreign enemy, and re-colonised the greatest among the ruined cities, he restored to the Sicilian Greeks their constitution and laws."
    I’m sure you all have read Plutarchs biography of Timoleon- it’s incredible!
    Please Please do a video about Timoleon

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 роки тому +4

      It will possibly be covered in the Greco-Carthaginian wars series .

  • @Aristotelis_Hellas
    @Aristotelis_Hellas 4 роки тому +33

    Thank you from Macedonia, Greece 🇬🇷

    • @phoenix6385
      @phoenix6385 4 роки тому +2

      Pontian go back to Turkey

    • @krismil
      @krismil 4 роки тому

      @@TheHunterOfYharnam No matter where they came from 100 years earlier. Sure, why not. Porque no los dos? ... same as the Mexican tortillas.

    • @pornometanastis6014
      @pornometanastis6014 4 роки тому +3

      @@phoenix6385 Pontus has more HDI than your country lmao

    • @ren-shen
      @ren-shen Рік тому

      @@wankawanka3053 what are Slavs, wanka?

    • @BOIOLA08
      @BOIOLA08 Рік тому

      You should make a union. The same with cyprus.

  • @deskouk1773
    @deskouk1773 4 роки тому +55

    Polybius on Demosthenes " The man who measures everything by the interests of his own particular state, and imagines that all the Greeks ought to have their eyes fixed upon Athens, on the pain of being styled traitors, seems to me to be ill-informed and to be labouring under a strange delusion".
    Following the Persian Wars the Athenians went in a propaganda campaign to create the idea of them being "the protectors of the Greeks". They went as far as to call the Spartans, barbarians. To the Athenians only those who live like an Athenian should be considered Greeks. Which is absolute non-sense.
    The reason Athens was so slow to respond against Philip was that many Athenians from the political scene were in favour of Philip. Look at Phocion of Athens or even Isocrates (who was more conservative than Demosthenes).

    • @alcaeus2
      @alcaeus2 4 роки тому +5

      Plutarch on Demosthenes and Phocion "At any rate, Phocion, among his contemporaries, though he took the lead in a policy which is not to be commended, and though he had the reputation of favoring Macedonia, nevertheless, by reason of his bravery and integrity, was held to be in no wise inferior to Ephialtes and Aristides and Cimon. Demosthenes, however, was not worthy of confidence when he bore arms, as Demetrius says, nor was he altogether inaccessible to bribes, but though he did not succumb to the gold which came from Philip and Macedonia, that which came down in streams from Susa and Ecbatana reached and overwhelmed him, and therefore while he was most capable of praising the virtues of earlier generations, he was not so good at imitating them." Plutarch, The Parallel Lives
      , Vol. VIII, The Life of Demosthenes
      , para. 14.
      Plutarch also mentions other instances when Demosthenes was bribed, e.g. the case of Harpalus. Seems plausible, that Phocion enjoyed the trust and respect of his countrymen for his conduct of bravery and devotion to Athens, but was following a policy of appeasement to Phillip, which is criticized by Plutarch. But in any case, Demosthenes was a known coward; he "ran away most disgracefully" at the battle of Chaeronea, abandoning his post. He hid behind his fellow citizens when Alexander called for his surrender, until Demades convinced him to relieve the city. He also ran away from Antipater and Craterus when they advanced to Athens. I would not hold him in high regard and you can take it from an Athenian.

  • @JahRandom
    @JahRandom 4 роки тому +7

    Keep up the quality content, K&G. The topics are always amazing and super interesting; but with your amazing artwork, great soundtrack, and excellent narration it is truly _always_ a pleasure. And even with the decent amount of content you put out, it is never enough. So thank you and never stop!!

  • @alexb9969
    @alexb9969 4 роки тому +1

    This is seriously one of your best videos yet. And, combined with the music and genuine quotes, it's truly an experience

  • @saillok4923
    @saillok4923 4 роки тому +59

    Could you do a video about the Roman siege of Syracuse?
    The Greeks (kind of) had fiery laser beams and machingun-catapults, it was pretty epic.

    • @JonathanLundkvist
      @JonathanLundkvist 4 роки тому +5

      Mythbusters tried the laser thing three times and barely could get a sunburn.

    • @goosequillian
      @goosequillian 4 роки тому +24

      @@JonathanLundkvist That does not decisively prove it did not exist. There are numerous lost technologies, like the Greek fire, that we have never managed to unveil truly.

    • @dominges
      @dominges 4 роки тому +3

      @@goosequillian ''There are numerous lost technologies'' like how the Aliens build the Pyramids? :D

    • @yoi2461
      @yoi2461 4 роки тому +7

      @@JonathanLundkvist Well Greeks and myth busters not the same.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 4 роки тому +3

      @@goosequillian lost technology implies we dont have the means to replicate the limits of their time which we absolutely do. Greek propoganda was just as rampant as Roman or Persian. Greek fire probably wasnt nearly as effective or destructive as it seems.

  • @Daruliable
    @Daruliable 4 роки тому +4

    Yes, great video, from an era that I always loved, keep up the good work K&G's

  • @arpitarunmishra
    @arpitarunmishra 4 роки тому +43

    Last time I was this early the Mycenaeans were still around

    • @senpainoticeme9675
      @senpainoticeme9675 4 роки тому +3

      Should have chosen the Minoans

    • @ahamedihamiyun5927
      @ahamedihamiyun5927 4 роки тому +1

      What happened to them ?

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 4 роки тому

      @@senpainoticeme9675 Should of said the Healots

    • @lightbringer2794
      @lightbringer2794 4 роки тому

      @@ahamedihamiyun5927 Volcanic eruption of Santorini or Thyra (former name) and then raids by the "sea peoples".

    • @ahamedihamiyun5927
      @ahamedihamiyun5927 4 роки тому +2

      @@lightbringer2794 weren't they the ancestors of the Greeks ?

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky 3 роки тому +3

    Demonsthenes: "Oh thank the gods! With Philip dead, his empire will soon collapse into ruin!"
    Alexander the soon to be Great: "Allow me to introduce myself."

  • @TheSamuraijim87
    @TheSamuraijim87 4 роки тому +1

    Great work K&G!
    If not possessed of slightly over-aggressive political viewpoints, Demosthenes' patriotism means he was truly worthy to be Cicero's hero.
    I can't help but feel that Aeschines deserved more than two mentions, because he was a lifelong foe of Demosthenes, and their political rivalry was an instrumental part shaping the political landscape of Athens and the Greek Cities.
    Really great video!

  • @agpaok0704
    @agpaok0704 4 роки тому +39

    "against other Greek states". Do you see this fakedonians? It is in description.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 роки тому +15

      Sometimes it's worth pointing it out , even though it's a given and obvious .

    • @krismil
      @krismil 4 роки тому +2

      Battle of Chaeronea told them all who was the boss. Hint, not a Greek.

  • @wardafournello
    @wardafournello 4 місяці тому +1

    The world was changing, the end of the city-states had arrived. The changes in Demosthenes' attitude show the struggle that prevailed in his consciousness, he was aware of the historical change, but his love for democratic Athens prevailed.

  • @manuelapollo7988
    @manuelapollo7988 4 роки тому +48

    "History is written by the winners". Napoleon: "caugh, caugh!"

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 4 роки тому +1

      French in WWII: Don't forget about us hein

    • @clementl.9566
      @clementl.9566 4 роки тому +13

      @@JonatasAdoM France has more than 1500 years of existence and has many more victories in battle than any other country in the planet. It is easy to forget the bigger picture by pointing out small characters of our long history.

    • @kofi-kun6420
      @kofi-kun6420 4 роки тому +2

      @@clementl.9566 probably has to do with the fact that it was the biggest "recent" war too.

    • @clementl.9566
      @clementl.9566 4 роки тому +7

      @@kofi-kun6420 When you think about Greece, Danemark, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, countries of the former Yugoslavia and so on the first thing that comes into your mind is certainly not their defeat during the WW2 except for Poland (but it's mainly because of the atrocities that have been committed). It's just french bashing coming from America since we didn't want to be involved in their stupid war in Iraq.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 4 роки тому +2

      Napoleon won hundreds of times

  • @SFCzeus202
    @SFCzeus202 4 роки тому +15

    Loving your videos! Is it possible to make a video on Xenophon's Ten Thousand? It is an amazing story which has not been covered by any of the big history channels as of yet.....

  • @stepanpytlik4021
    @stepanpytlik4021 4 роки тому +15

    14:43
    Alexander: Allow me to introduce myself

  • @Τζει-ε5δ
    @Τζει-ε5δ 4 роки тому +3

    Hell yeah. Again another excellent video guys!

  • @K13774
    @K13774 2 роки тому +2

    In the peace talks of 346, an athenian embassy met with Philip. Demosthenes was the youngest member of the embassy, so he was the last to speak before the macedonian king.
    However, Demosthenes was so nervous and fearful that he could not finish his speech. Philip saw the state he was in and encoured Demothenes to take heart and continue with his speech. But it was to late, Demosthenes was completely loss for words and could not continue.
    source: Ian Worthington, Demothenes of Athen and the Fall of classical Greece, chapter 7.

  • @CyberCodeCracker
    @CyberCodeCracker 4 роки тому +3

    I've been waiting for something like this, thanks!

  • @BaiZhijie
    @BaiZhijie 4 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate how you used the tune from the Seikilos epitaph as the background music. Very subtle attention to detail.

  • @Aristotelis_Hellas
    @Aristotelis_Hellas 4 роки тому +26

    Phillip (then Alexander the Great) was the first emperor/admiral of United Greece 🇬🇷
    Without Philip and
    Alexander, the western world could faced another Persian invasion and the things even now would be different. Western civilization was saved by Greece once again and they prepaired the ground for the Eastern Greco/Roman empire. So, even Eastern Christianity is something that was made by the Greek world domination because of Greek Empire of Alexander.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 роки тому +12

      Isocrates ? Jason of Pherae ? Both envisioned a united greece that would take down the persian empire .

    • @Aristotelis_Hellas
      @Aristotelis_Hellas 4 роки тому +4

      @@christermi correct! Isocrates sent letters to Phillip and to other Greek leaders in order to think about the possibility and the advantages of United Greece against Persians.

    • @katask7849
      @katask7849 4 роки тому +4

      @@josecipriano3048 how wasn't greek at all,ruled by greeks,in which lived greeks, spreading greek culture.

    • @AimForMyHead81
      @AimForMyHead81 Рік тому

      O

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 10 днів тому +1

      KING PHILIP and TSAR ALEXANDER are M A C E D O N I A N S ! !

  • @saltech3444
    @saltech3444 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this video. I am writing a novel about Demosthenes, and the comments section of this video shows how impossible it is to find anyone who is even ambivalent on the subject, let alone sympathetic to Demosthenes.
    I blame this on the tradition of scholarship starting with Professor Cawkwell in the 1960s and 70s, who takes every opportunity to blacken Demosthenes' reputation; as well as the fact that the only easily digested ancient source on Demosthenes is the biography by Plutarch, who happens to have inherited a tradition hostile to Demosthenes and fawning upon Phocion.
    I also read with disgust the 1950s novel by Mary Renault on the era, which fawns upon Alexander and scurrilously depicts Democratic Athens as a society of welfare cheats being led by the nose by corrupt venal child-molesters. This novel, too, is popular.

  • @IoannisKazlaris
    @IoannisKazlaris 4 роки тому +13

    Demosthenes' speech impediment had nothing to do with stuttering or lisp: he simply had a difficulty pronouncing clearly the letter "r" or "ρ".

  • @aGr3atD4y
    @aGr3atD4y Рік тому

    This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels!

  • @danielconde13
    @danielconde13 4 роки тому +17

    Sadly enough, his end remembered me the death of our most celebrated writer, Luís de Camões, in the same year Portugal lost its independence to form the Iberian Union (1580 - 1640). One of those cruel destiny's coincidences.

    • @danielconde13
      @danielconde13 4 роки тому +2

      @Nom Anor Sorry, not all the Royal Houses of Iberia share the same heritage. Of course, throughout the ages, several marriages between them made it so - and Philip II had a legitimate claim to the throne of Portugal because he was grandson of the Portuguese King Manuel I. But this is also true for the whole of Europe - Queen Victoria was known as the "grandmother of Europe", due to her kinship with several Royal Families.
      So, countries should unite with each other over the fact of kings and queens sharing kinship with each other? Welcome to Europe, the "country"?...

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 4 роки тому +3

      wasnt it because the Portuguese losing their young naive king and most of their nobles because his "crusade" on the Moroccan. ?

    • @danielconde13
      @danielconde13 4 роки тому +2

      @@jalpat2272 Hi, right on the "naive king", right on Morocco... wrong on the motive.
      King D. Sebastião had that foolish teenager dream of elevating Portugal to the mythical/biblical "Fifth Empire" status, and since Portuguese Empire was, at that time, long since based on the Indian Ocean and the still blooming Brazil, he thought that coming back to the glorious conquests in North Africa was a good idea.
      For that aim, he went on to the call for aid from the Moroccan sultan Mulei Mohammed, against his nephew, sultan Abd al-Malik. The resulting battle was a total disaster for all 3 rulers and their armies, since 2 of them died on the field, and D. Sebastião simply vanished, his body never recovered - the remains buried at Lisbon's _Mosteiro_ _dos_ _Jerónimos_ are a hoax. The battle of _Alcácer_ _Quibir_ (Portuguese) is thus also refered as the "Battle of the Three Kings".
      So, not quite a Crusade, but an intervention over Moroccan politics.

    • @danielconde13
      @danielconde13 4 роки тому +1

      @@josecipriano3048 that's right, well, not forever, and not everywhere, but our zenith was reached. Sri Lanka was forever lost, and our prime armada erased after the disastrous Invincible Armada.
      But we did recover Northeastern Brazil and Angola from the Dutch, and managed to defeat the Spanish in the 28 year long Restauration Wars.

  • @mazarajr
    @mazarajr 4 роки тому +47

    Athenians when they learned about Philip's death: Thank Zeus, our freedom has returned and a new golden age will begin for us!
    Alexander the Great: Il vento d'oro/JoJo Giorno Giovanna's theme plays

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 4 роки тому +4

      You mean : Iméra/ημέρα/day - Ioanna/Ἰωάννα/God is Gracious?😏
      P.S. - Giorno means day in Italian, right? Also, can't someone here further translate this into ancient Koine Greek?

    • @mazarajr
      @mazarajr 4 роки тому +1

      @@SeymoreSparda There is nothing to do with it man.There is an anime character with that name (Giorno Giovanna) and his theme song is very popular. Check it out

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 4 роки тому +6

      @@mazarajr Dude...I know!😏 Trust me, am a big fan. I was just trying to be cheeky, by translating Giorno's Italian full name into a Greek one, to tie the meme to the subject at hand (Demosthenes fight against Philip). Actually, I was wrong in my initial assessment. Demosthenes spoke Attic Greek, not Koine (common) Greek in his lifetime (I think?).

  • @ucraniaestamosjuntos326
    @ucraniaestamosjuntos326 10 днів тому +1

    All anxious for yours videos

  • @Jon.A.Scholt
    @Jon.A.Scholt 4 роки тому +8

    I always laughed in HBOs John Adams series when Adams mentions Demosthenes during the continental Congress and the rest of the representatives are like,"not now Adams!"

    • @GabrielSoares-ju9yq
      @GabrielSoares-ju9yq 4 роки тому

      is this show any good? i thought about watching it but have never heard of it before that

    • @theemirofjaffa2266
      @theemirofjaffa2266 4 роки тому

      Lol.. actually do u know why they said that? Like, were they just tired of Adams' obsession with Greek philosophers?

    • @Jon.A.Scholt
      @Jon.A.Scholt 4 роки тому +1

      @@theemirofjaffa2266 If I recall they are simply tired of his arguing and of him being pedantic. And yes, it's a mini-series worth watching, though propaganda of the highest order.

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 4 роки тому

      @@theemirofjaffa2266 i miss times when public Representatives has brain, more brain than the stupid mobs they represented combined.

  • @kadourkadouri3505
    @kadourkadouri3505 4 роки тому +1

    Mates you’re making the best contents on UA-cam

  • @edricdayne3571
    @edricdayne3571 4 роки тому +18

    6:02 Demosthenes: We cannot allow Phillip to do to Athens what Athens has done to Macedonia and wishes it could do again

  • @IoannisPapag
    @IoannisPapag 4 роки тому +5

    Whoever made this game is more Greek than all our politicians conbined!!

  • @eurasiaacaci.-110
    @eurasiaacaci.-110 3 роки тому +3

    Demothemes : Hooray! Philip died
    Alexander : hello 👋

  • @iberius9937
    @iberius9937 4 роки тому

    This channel is magnificent and perfect for anyone passionate about antiquity and ancient warfare.

  • @Kahrdis
    @Kahrdis 4 роки тому +21

    Demosthenes: Yeah but what about those polemarch seals bruh

  • @SquirrelGrrl
    @SquirrelGrrl 4 роки тому +1

    I just had to say, “damn...,” at the end there. Thank you for brining history to life!!

  • @dhaneswarmoharana5873
    @dhaneswarmoharana5873 2 роки тому

    Very good endeavour in bringing the story of the great personality who conquered the heart of Macedonian people through his noble oration. Thanks

  • @jordinagel1184
    @jordinagel1184 4 роки тому +65

    “History is written by the victors, but that is not always true”
    *ahem* The Confederacy and the Lost Cause movement...

    • @iberius9937
      @iberius9937 4 роки тому +9

      The War of Northern Agression.

    • @charlethemagne5466
      @charlethemagne5466 4 роки тому +3

      History being written by the victors is more in the minority than the majority. For every war there is we always have sources from historians who clearly weren't forced to write positive of whatever events transpired and on the contrary give scathing accounts. I would have though people by now would have realised that quote just isn't true.

    • @game_boyd1644
      @game_boyd1644 4 роки тому

      @@greengrugach1984 ???

    • @arokjuata3365
      @arokjuata3365 4 роки тому

      @@game_boyd1644 ????

    • @iberius9937
      @iberius9937 3 роки тому

      @The Martial Lord of Loyalty That's beside the point. The Confederate Government warned the Union troops to evacuate that fort time and time again, as South Carolina had declared itself independent, but to no avail.
      It's not a question of "who fired first" or "who did or didn't own slaves". The fact is, the war was almost entirely Abraham Lincoln's fault. HE was the one that sent a PUNITIVE expedition to secessionist states, starting with Maryland. HE was the one who, with one executive order, could have withdrawn federal troops from southern soil and prevented four years of useless bloodshed, but didn't. That's the issue here.

  • @taxiarchiskalyvas8198
    @taxiarchiskalyvas8198 4 роки тому +16

    Fun fact: I would like to point out the political rival between Macedon and Athens was like USA vs RUSSIA think... Both powers wanted claim over the fertile lands of Thessaly. That also proves the hatred between them while Athens declined Macedonians being Greek while they actually were for the other Greek city states like Sparta since they were also Doric tribe. Macedon also was an upcoming power and a threat to Athens.

    • @taxiarchiskalyvas8198
      @taxiarchiskalyvas8198 4 роки тому

      @@spiritusIRATUS except their allies of course 😉

    • @Pantoulis
      @Pantoulis 4 роки тому +1

      @ Doric*

    • @rocekth
      @rocekth 4 роки тому +1

      That is nothing like the rivalry between the US and Russia, it's ideologically and not over land

    • @taxiarchiskalyvas8198
      @taxiarchiskalyvas8198 4 роки тому

      @@rocekth the main reason was about the land since Thessaly could provide the economical advantage

    • @krismil
      @krismil 4 роки тому

      You must be a genius given there is no evidence whatsoever of the ancient Macedonian language. None whatsoever. But of course I am referring to real academics.

  • @ihebbenrhouma3957
    @ihebbenrhouma3957 4 роки тому +11

    Thanks for making my boring life more exciting for the next 23 minutes.

  • @Szaszi24
    @Szaszi24 4 роки тому

    Man your new content is getting better and better every video. Great job guys

  • @Tareltonlives
    @Tareltonlives 4 роки тому +1

    Glad to see something on Demosthenes!

  • @marcillioficino4663
    @marcillioficino4663 4 роки тому +1

    Fantastic job... very well done.

  • @jacobnestle3805
    @jacobnestle3805 4 роки тому +1

    I would LOVE more videos about this time and the Diadochi wars

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto 3 роки тому +1

    With Phillip a great mind, military,political,organizational leading, with generals we know were very good (such as Cleitus), and with Alexander also.leading a part of the cavalry.. well there was quite a talent pool there.

  • @ManpreetSingh-it3ij
    @ManpreetSingh-it3ij 4 роки тому +3

    Truly an awesome video with quality content can you make an entire series each video detailing about the sieges of Constantinople

  • @nikosporgiotis7952
    @nikosporgiotis7952 3 роки тому

    great job guys. awsome narration, great level of detailed research and an astonishing work overall. would be great to see a video for alkiviades.

  • @MKfanmomo
    @MKfanmomo 4 роки тому +10

    I see so much similarities with the end of the Roman republic, the Latin and Hellenistic worlds were close in many aspects.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 4 роки тому +4

      This is Hellenic world, not hellenistic, hellenistic world are the macedonian kingdoms after alexanders death. Aka the kngdoma of his generals

    • @MKfanmomo
      @MKfanmomo 4 роки тому +1

      @@innosanto Thank you for the clarification.

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 10 днів тому +1

      M A K E D O N I J A NAME 30 CENTURIES ! ! from GOD MAKEDON.

  • @thalesmoraes1312
    @thalesmoraes1312 4 роки тому

    Its great to have videos to wach on a tuesday!

  • @daanishalisayed7679
    @daanishalisayed7679 4 роки тому +1

    Can K&G please make a tracklist of the soundtracks they put into every video, or at least this one? The videos with the new style of animation and artwork and simply brilliant, raising the bar from an already sky high level from the previous videos!

  • @ulfeliasson5413
    @ulfeliasson5413 4 роки тому

    Enthralling as always. Thank you.

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 4 роки тому

    Nice video. I think it was a greatly informative one. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

  • @tarungupta199
    @tarungupta199 4 роки тому +11

    Two men who fought against tyranny till their deaths: Demosthenes and Cicero. Both were hunted down. This tells you how fragile humanity is.

    • @jesseberg3271
      @jesseberg3271 4 роки тому +6

      However, both were willing to make deals with those Tyrants when it suited them: Demosthenes with Philip and Cicero with Pompey, Caeser, Antony, and the yet to be so named Augustus.

    • @lightbringer2794
      @lightbringer2794 4 роки тому +1

      @@jesseberg3271 That's politics.

    • @charlescook5542
      @charlescook5542 4 роки тому +1

      @Ricardo Santos hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah good one except nothing to do with tyranny

    • @nopenoperton5448
      @nopenoperton5448 4 роки тому +7

      Ricardo Santos Don’t compare Demosthenes or Cicero’s struggles to your childish inability to wear a simple piece of cloth.

    • @AH-yg8xb
      @AH-yg8xb 4 роки тому

      @Ricardo Santos Beware, we have found the Cicero of our generation!

  • @gnewsome
    @gnewsome 4 роки тому +3

    The sarissa was the single most important and history-changing weapon in military history. For this alone, he should be called Philip the Great.

    • @dinospapa7413
      @dinospapa7413 4 роки тому +2

      It was just a pointy stick, that was longer than other pointy sticks. Not that revolutionary if you think about it...
      I mean, sure it was great, but not "the most importan weapon in military history".

    • @rishi7629
      @rishi7629 4 роки тому

      @@dinospapa7413 Only conqured more than half of known world... & resisted rome in almost all major Greeko-Roman battles.

    • @gnewsome
      @gnewsome 4 роки тому

      @@dinospapa7413 well i never said it was revolutionary. Just important and history-changing. Other than the gun and the atomic bomb, it is hard to think of another singular weapon that had such a broad impact on the development of the known world.

  • @DarthPlato
    @DarthPlato 4 роки тому +3

    Epaminondas is a story worth telling.

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS 4 роки тому +1

    That final roast of actor bounty hunter was sweet!

  • @rosaartemisg5027
    @rosaartemisg5027 3 роки тому

    Excellent video !
    My gratitude 🙏

  • @tomsmith4542
    @tomsmith4542 4 роки тому

    respect for this from Greece

  • @johnwhiteX
    @johnwhiteX 4 роки тому +2

    Do a video on the Cretan War, think that could he really cool

  • @Rebelass74
    @Rebelass74 4 роки тому +9

    Weren’t The Macedons Greeks too?

    • @gocekostadinovski9464
      @gocekostadinovski9464 3 роки тому

      No

    • @PostAlbanian
      @PostAlbanian 3 роки тому

      They were Albanians, modern Greeks are from Russia

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 5 місяців тому +1

      MACEDONIANS 25 CENTURIES from FILIP KING ON MAKEDONIJA.

    • @giannastavros4653
      @giannastavros4653 Місяць тому

      ofcourse they were greeks! lol Why you ask that? Alexander the Great said it many times that Macedonia is greece!

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 10 днів тому

      @@giannastavros4653 MAKEDONIJA IS MAKEDONIJA.
      you in....####.

  • @ouyrtuy5334
    @ouyrtuy5334 2 роки тому

    Perfect video ! Thank you !

  • @danielkovacs6672
    @danielkovacs6672 4 роки тому

    Excellent and most interesting video!

  • @andreiduduman4220
    @andreiduduman4220 4 роки тому

    Impressive story and emotional ending!

  • @curiosityscenes3098
    @curiosityscenes3098 4 роки тому +1

    Wow great video

  • @Atipaj
    @Atipaj 4 роки тому +1

    Please do a video in Cato the younger and his last stand on trying to keep the virtues of the Roman Republic alive as well as his conflict with Julius Caesar.

  • @anonymousanonymous7250
    @anonymousanonymous7250 4 роки тому +1

    What's this? A Kings and Generals video NOT on a Thursday or Sunday?
    PINCH ME, I MUSH BE DREAMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @hvar-pharosisland2268
    @hvar-pharosisland2268 4 роки тому +3

    I'd like to add an info which is quite important i think
    Demosthenes wanted to replace Philip with a previous macedonian king Argaios.
    That's why before Philip (with Macedonians and Thessalians) beat Athenian coalition, he fought against macedonian Argaios who wanted alliance with Athenians

  • @daidzarile9305
    @daidzarile9305 4 роки тому +2

    Hi,can you make videos with croatian subtitles,but you have lot of fans from Croatia.
    From Croatia 💪🏽✝️❤🇭🇷

    • @christermi
      @christermi 4 роки тому

      Only volunteers/fans can submit subtitles in a video .

  • @perseusarkouda
    @perseusarkouda 3 роки тому +2

    Σ is not Ε. It's S. It's confusing for anyone who knows Greek to use it. Please avoid using it.

  • @busnello1987
    @busnello1987 4 роки тому +1

    could you guys make a video about Solon?

  • @georgeabraham5672
    @georgeabraham5672 4 роки тому

    Really great as usual

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto 3 роки тому +1

    Demosthenes thought that fighting with Alexander was an opportunity lol ! :D

  • @supremeboss4726
    @supremeboss4726 4 роки тому +3

    17:34 it was clear that any rebellion against Macedonian control was "no joke"

  • @hopeindarktimes9535
    @hopeindarktimes9535 4 роки тому

    Such a great channell!

  • @BodyTrust
    @BodyTrust Рік тому

    Always great research and delivery. BTW, in future videos of warriors, please omit the Hollywood wrist guards, since they are a complete fiction and would serve no purpose anyway.

  • @ieuanjones7615
    @ieuanjones7615 4 роки тому +9

    Can we get the second siege of Vienna by the ottomans?

  • @danilol8613
    @danilol8613 4 роки тому +16

    I’m earlier than Alexander marching around Greece

    • @AT-wj5sw
      @AT-wj5sw 4 роки тому

      Marching around Greece ? That’s was just a warm up.

  • @fedda9999
    @fedda9999 4 роки тому +14

    16:57 macedon attacks thebes*
    athens: adios

  • @jackson857
    @jackson857 4 роки тому

    A sponsor that makes sense for the video!

  • @shadowrealm8014
    @shadowrealm8014 4 роки тому +2

    People pronounce Macedonia differently it seems ... On other documentaries the c has k sound . MaKEdonia . So how was it really pronounce back in their days? . :) Cheers thanks for the up load

    • @edgaraurelius
      @edgaraurelius 4 роки тому +4

      Shadow Realm The /s/ pronunciation is the modern English rendering of it. The /k/ is how it is in both modern and ancient Greek.

    • @tatjanavelkova5814
      @tatjanavelkova5814 5 місяців тому

      before 25 centuries FILIP MACEDONIAN KINGDOM ! ! !

  • @albertofernandez9147
    @albertofernandez9147 4 роки тому

    Amazing job!