Kelly Gissendaner | Was Her Execution Warranted?

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 576

  • @kimjohnson8471
    @kimjohnson8471 2 роки тому +27

    "Usually attacking people in a therapy session is not considered an appropriate theaputic technique. "
    Best quote of December 6, 2021!

  • @emilyhollis4231
    @emilyhollis4231 2 роки тому +134

    I'm grateful for my mom every single day for making sure I grew up in a nonviolent household. This and many many other things, of course. When I look back at awful horrible people I went to school with over the years, I realize they probably were being raised in violence. My grandkids tell me about classmates constantly who are obviously being raised in horrific conditions.
    Anyway, thanks Dr Grande.

    • @barbaragremaud3499
      @barbaragremaud3499 2 роки тому +13

      You are so likely right. It’s easier to feel compassion and empathy for children and young adults. Once they grow up and perpetrate abuses themselves, it’s harder to be compassionate.

  • @sadiyasaleh233
    @sadiyasaleh233 2 роки тому +65

    Doctor grande: "I can picture one of those prison officials saying if we use this drug it can kill someone".
    As heartbreaking as this case is,I can't help giggling at your savage sense of humor.

  • @Patriot_Lady1776
    @Patriot_Lady1776 2 роки тому +141

    It's always fascinating why people don't just walk away instead of killing someone - except when money is involved.

    • @TecOneself
      @TecOneself 2 роки тому +5

      money and to not work, no values, no love, no coherence for the whole either.

    • @peziki
      @peziki 2 роки тому +3

      Low life trailer trash reflecting their upbringing.

    • @JelloFluoride
      @JelloFluoride 2 роки тому +5

      The folly of human pride.

    • @guest_5992
      @guest_5992 2 роки тому +7

      @@peziki there's plenty of low life mansion dwellers.

    • @BlearyBoy1
      @BlearyBoy1 2 роки тому +4

      Mental Health issues, I'm not condoning anything here, but combine that with social deprivation and an abusive upbringing, you can get this.

  • @kelliearnold8498
    @kelliearnold8498 2 роки тому +173

    Very interesting and heartbreaking. My sister-in-laws funeral was today. No more suffering for her. Very well done as usual.

    • @dureka1908
      @dureka1908 2 роки тому +16

      I'm so sorry Kellie. No more suffering indeed.

    • @ladymopar2024
      @ladymopar2024 2 роки тому +9

      I'm sorry for your loss sweetheart

    • @emmaphilo4049
      @emmaphilo4049 2 роки тому +8

      Sorry for your loss🙏🙏🙏

    • @jg7u
      @jg7u 2 роки тому +14

      @Ben Lurie wut.

    • @auntyharry
      @auntyharry 2 роки тому +6

      I am so sorry for your loss. May God comfort you as you grieve her passing. Prayers from Australia.

  • @Direkin
    @Direkin 2 роки тому +49

    "Experiencing trauma can hinder one's growth". I've heard this before, and it certainly makes me wonder how much better I could have been if my father wasn't the violent, abusive type (and my mother the passive abusive type).

    • @noodle.doodles
      @noodle.doodles 2 роки тому +12

      I wonder this myself sometimes. I suppose the best survivors can do is keep moving forward and try to still be the best possible versions of ourselves.

    • @Direkin
      @Direkin 2 роки тому +8

      @@noodle.doodles Indeed. Life goes on, and we just have to make the best of a shit situation.

    • @Direkin
      @Direkin 2 роки тому +4

      @Over It Nope. Not even close, but thanks for playing.

    • @noodle.doodles
      @noodle.doodles 2 роки тому +3

      That wasn’t my intention at all I was just trying to be hopeful. :(

  • @wordlady88
    @wordlady88 3 роки тому +52

    Full disclosure: I do not usually support capital punishment. I'm from Harris County Texas and boy oh boy are they death penalty happy here. Makes me absolutely sick to think of all the possibly innocent (and flat out innocent) people who face this fate.
    That being said, I do understand the argument for the death penalty in cases of murder for financial gain.
    It's especially cold and callous to put a price on someone's life.
    She was her own worst enemy here. She could have taken the plea deal and avoided this fate all together.

    • @Rompler_Rocco
      @Rompler_Rocco 2 роки тому +10

      ⬆️ Was this comment really posted *4 months* before any others? Was this video originally posted at that time, and then abruptly made private until now? Is this some AI spam bot algorithm? A timestamp glitch? My critical thinking circuits are smoldering over here.

    • @wordlady88
      @wordlady88 2 роки тому +8

      @@Rompler_Rocco im a patreon and made that comment when he released to patreon as a pre release.

    • @Bibiana862
      @Bibiana862 2 роки тому +5

      @@wordlady88 TY cuse I was breaking my mind how is this possible lol

    • @Rompler_Rocco
      @Rompler_Rocco 2 роки тому

      @@wordlady88 🤦‍♂️ Thank you!!

    • @emmaphilo4049
      @emmaphilo4049 2 роки тому +1

      @@wordlady88 thanks, I was wondering too and thought UA-cam fell into a time vortex or something lol

  • @myozbubble
    @myozbubble 2 роки тому +146

    I hope her kids were raised in a loving and stable environment. I cannot imagine what it would be like for them nor, what kind of support they would need to be well-balanced people.

    • @scottricci5063
      @scottricci5063 2 роки тому +7

      Nothing is hopeless, all is possible in Christ.

    • @lnc-to4ku
      @lnc-to4ku 2 роки тому +8

      I was stunned that she said nothing towards her children before her death!

    • @damienhunt4264
      @damienhunt4264 2 роки тому +4

      I vey much doubt that you hope has been realized.

    • @kevinhornbuckle
      @kevinhornbuckle 2 роки тому +13

      @@scottricci5063 So why didn’t Christ intervene to prevent this murder?

    • @scottricci5063
      @scottricci5063 2 роки тому +7

      @@kevinhornbuckleGod gave man dominion over the earth and a free will. You have to want to believe. You have to want not to. But if you believe and have faith, prayers to God can b answered if in accordance to His will.

  • @jenilynneful
    @jenilynneful 2 роки тому +20

    That was fascinating information about trauma and growth

  • @annal7364
    @annal7364 2 роки тому +75

    Holy moly, Dr. G, are you sure you’re not related to Data? He too does not need sleep in order to function within normal parameters. I look forward to learning about this tomorrow! 😘😴

    • @christopher.m.dickinson0315
      @christopher.m.dickinson0315 2 роки тому +3

      I can relate. Who needs sleep always something to do or new to learn.

    • @LargeInCharge77
      @LargeInCharge77 2 роки тому +1

      Your pretty much dead when your sleeping, and u sleep like a third of your life. So litteraly wake up sheeple :O

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 2 роки тому +8

      Sleep is what makes life so enjoyable, not sure how yall can function, i need 9 or so ideally, 8 is ok but 7 im bagged and 6 dead lol. You cant be interested if youre completely spent

    • @sunrae7680
      @sunrae7680 2 роки тому +2

      😀😁🤣😂 Being human is overrated.

    • @jht3fougifh393
      @jht3fougifh393 2 роки тому +2

      Everyone needs enough sleep, or they'll begin experiencing various, increasingly debilitating symptoms. But I guess the exact amount required to function will always depend on the individual. Crazy how different our exact biological limitations can be.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 роки тому +8

    RIP Doug 💔🙏💐 Prayers for his Family, and her Children. I've Lost My Very Best Friend, and Mentor, my Auntie, to Murder when I was 17. She was only 34. Our Family has Never Recovered. I understand the Grief, and Heartache. You just explained something huge to me! Thank You! I Suffer from PTSD, and it's affected my entire life.

    • @renee1961
      @renee1961 2 роки тому +2

      Dr. Grande helped me understand how Trauma affects our Emotional Maturity. Thank You, again Dr. Grande!

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 2 роки тому +63

    3 videos today? Yeah...I needed these. Bad history no excuse for murder. Thanks for all your hard work & up to 926K subs now 😊🥳👏💟💟

    • @ladymopar2024
      @ladymopar2024 2 роки тому +1

      Is a bloopers for a million subscribers

    • @thelostronin
      @thelostronin 2 роки тому

      You had me excited! I thought I had missed one. But there were only 2 lol.

    • @thelostronin
      @thelostronin 2 роки тому +1

      @@ladymopar2024 hell yeah! Great idea!

    • @simonw1313
      @simonw1313 2 роки тому

      There's never an excuse for murder (or it becomes something else) but there's often, it not always, an explanation for why any person commits murder.
      Folk seem to have huge issues with mistaking that explanation for an excuse.

    • @zenawarrior7442
      @zenawarrior7442 2 роки тому

      @@simonw1313 What is your point exactly? Growing WEARY of these critics who pick on choice of words. Anything better to do than insult folks? BTW there is NEVER A REASON, OR AN EXCUSE, FOR MURDER. They are one in the same if you think real hard....

  • @cottontails9003
    @cottontails9003 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you Dr Grande.,for fair and sensitive analysis. It was a sad and tragic situation. Thank you Dr Grande. Great analysis and topic Also 3 videos in one day ,makes my day perfect. Thank you once again Dr Grande.

  • @CATNAPREAL1188
    @CATNAPREAL1188 2 роки тому +15

    Greetings Dr G. I'm So slowed down by my traumatic past that I'm about to be a newborn. 😢 Thanks for the content. Keep up the Good Work !! Sincerely 🙏 & ❤️ !

  • @browniehendricks3726
    @browniehendricks3726 2 роки тому +4

    In my Rorshach test I see one million viewers for you Dr. Grande. You certainly deserve that honor.

  • @thelostronin
    @thelostronin 2 роки тому +39

    "If we use this stuff it could kill somebody." So funny. Sadly I think that conversation must have happened almost verbatim and no one was being sarcastic.
    An inkblot test to determine brain damage! That clinician should be given a an award! Most creative way to misuse and outdated test.

    • @simoncullum5019
      @simoncullum5019 2 роки тому +5

      I always wonder if they use the anti septic wipe for the lethal injection

    • @averyhodges2302
      @averyhodges2302 2 роки тому +5

      More than likely it was the worry that it actually wouldn’t kill her. If the drug is less effective it could lead to just poisoning her and causing problems, without actually causing her death

    • @erniebuchinski3614
      @erniebuchinski3614 2 роки тому +1

      @@simoncullum5019 Well, I certainly hope so. It wouldn't do to have an infection set in! No, wait . . .

  • @IdeologieUK
    @IdeologieUK 2 роки тому +9

    04:50 am in the UK. I’m in the first five minutes of the video. I would not normally comment on a video without watching it completely but Dr G asked if capital punishment was warranted in this case. I say no, not, never. A country who has ‘a right to life’ in their constitution should not take the life of its citizens.

    • @coiledsteel8344
      @coiledsteel8344 2 роки тому +1

      NO Capitol Punishment, Regardless?
      Maybe You Bleeding Heart Liberals Would Change Your Attitude IF Terrorists Got Real Busy There.

    • @Bibiana862
      @Bibiana862 2 роки тому +1

      @@coiledsteel8344 did you even listen what kind crime was it about?

    • @IdeologieUK
      @IdeologieUK 2 роки тому

      @@coiledsteel8344 The problem with the death penalty is that your probability of making it to death row falls on a few basic factors that include a highly troubled upbringing resulting in serious mental health issues, the likelihood that you were brought up in a single parent household and that you’re poor and unable to mount a good defence, either to disprove the state’s case, or to present mitigating factors. Aside from all that, there are enough exonerated to show that it’s not a fail proof system. The many years of appeals is very costly for the state, notwithstanding that the death penalty makes those on death row live practically in solitary confinement which is an 8th amendment constitutional problem. This is the opinion of many liberals and many conservatives.
      There would be fewer murderers in the US if social welfare intervention happened early enough, if single motherhood wasn’t so bloody attractive, if more fathers were involved in their children’s lives instead of gangs taking the role of ‘brothers and fathers’. It seems all of these are ignored except for the final intervention which is homicide by the state.
      The UK, Europe and most of the rest of the world has done away with it. It’s only a question of time.

  • @eeericaa
    @eeericaa 2 роки тому +16

    The devil works hard but dr grande works harder.

  • @sharondowling8896
    @sharondowling8896 2 роки тому +13

    Another excellent analysis- which also points out our incredible lack of mental health services, and huge flaws in our so called "justice system". Lawyers on both sides of the case dropped the ball. This is one reason the death penalty should be abolished in our country! Justice shouldn't depend upon having the best defense money can buy! The holes in Greg's story are huge- yet he was able to take a deal. You have shed an important light on the effects of severe trauma throughout one's childhood and adolescence. I wish our justice system was better equipped to address this- unfortunately our system is focused on punishment and revenge. Not justice, and certainly not rehabilitation. Thank you again, Dr. Grande, for your insight!

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 2 роки тому

      If the USA was a living being - it would itself be in therapy or on death row.
      Yhe US refuses to be part of the ECHR [Europec Court of Human Rights -
      because the USA like China - IRAN and SAUDI ARABIA do not recognize
      nor uphold human rights - being the blood-thirst terrorist POLICE and
      War-mongering lying state that it is. - And the Presidents are mere puppets
      to the CORPORATE and BANKING stakeholders who hold all the power.
      The President is merely the ADMINISTRATOR of the CORPORATE GOVERNMENT
      debt.
      The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has become completely bankrupt in world
      leadership - financial credit and its reputation for courage, vision
      and human rights.

    • @TheTrevelyansway
      @TheTrevelyansway 2 роки тому

      Do United States is a beacon of light in the world. The justice system isn't perfect but it's better than 99% of other countries. I love this country and you lefty lunatics can piss off.

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 2 роки тому +1

      @@TheTrevelyansway
      99% of other countries?
      Which other countries.
      Explain also how it can be better when it has the largest prison
      population per capita - There is no other country that exceeds it.

    • @Tina06019
      @Tina06019 2 роки тому

      @@TheTrevelyansway I am loyal to the USA (because it is my home), but our justice system is a mess.

  • @raechelgrantham8134
    @raechelgrantham8134 2 роки тому +21

    Thanks for the great content yet again! You're my favorite channel right now and I feel like you spoil us by uploading so frequently. I also recently purchased your books and I'm enjoying the first one immensely.

    • @ladymopar2024
      @ladymopar2024 2 роки тому

      I really really enjoyed his books first one I'm waiting for the second one

  • @thereal4113
    @thereal4113 2 роки тому +23

    It is so nice to hear Dr. Grande's 🌵🌵🌵🌵🌵soothing voice, even though the topic is gut wrenching.
    I don't understand why women are popping out babies like a gumball machine.
    The cards are stacked against the children from the beginning, including Kelly.
    Thanks Dr. Grande.

    • @sixthsenseamelia4695
      @sixthsenseamelia4695 2 роки тому +9

      Women don't "pop out babies like a gumball machine" without servicemen refilling the hopper.

    • @thereal4113
      @thereal4113 2 роки тому +4

      @@sixthsenseamelia4695 Agreed. The men are equally responsible. Maybe they should get a vasectomy at puberty and have it reversed when they have been vetted. 🤣

    • @thesongbird2383
      @thesongbird2383 2 роки тому +1

      Talk about popping out babies... makes me concerned about Alec Baldwin's young children. It's always the precious children who really suffer from sins of the careless parents.

    • @thereal4113
      @thereal4113 2 роки тому

      @@thesongbird2383 Alec Baldwin seems like a wack a doo, not to mention his wife Hillary, oh excuse me, Hillaria with the on again off again Spanish accent. I would also be concerned about the children.

  • @Bhappi137
    @Bhappi137 2 роки тому +11

    I have had life long trauma due to issues that happened to me as a child and then again as a teenager , I wondered why I feel immature , Thank you Dr Grande you have been able to finally provide an answer for me

  • @ChristinePerez903
    @ChristinePerez903 2 роки тому +20

    That sad that Kelly didn’t get help that she needed.
    Thanks for the second video Dr Grande!!!

  • @murderedx8018
    @murderedx8018 2 роки тому +22

    That part where you said that experiencing trauma can hinder one's growth, I really feel that. I experienced something really bad when I was 21 and I don't feel like the 3 years after the fact, that I had grown. I didn't even feel like I was my actual age, that I was still 21 the years following

    • @abcefg4504
      @abcefg4504 2 роки тому

      @Over It you lack empathy

  • @betterbee1304
    @betterbee1304 2 роки тому +13

    After working on my final project that I'm already freaking out about because it's due the 12th, turning on Dr Grande is a good way to unwind. I've never heard about this case. So much violence. Thanks Dr Grande for consistently giving me new information to ruminate on ❤️

  • @Jeanne90275
    @Jeanne90275 2 роки тому +62

    This is a good analysis of the crime, but she knew she was guilty and should have taken the plea deal offered. I don't see this as a death penalty case; the death penalty should be reserved for the worst of the worst.

    • @thorgrootsweetrabbit2244
      @thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 2 роки тому +3

      Yes people who have committed multiple murders, or have aggravated factor's such as S/assault or torture.

    • @alexblaze8878
      @alexblaze8878 2 роки тому +15

      It’s considered more heinous to plan and plot someone’s murder over a period of time (months in this case) than to kill someone in the heat of the moment. To ponder and think about killing someone for that long and then to deceive and plan it out takes a very cold hearted person; I have less sympathy for them than I do for a drive by murder by gang members (for example). At least with the latter it’s usually a spur of the moment decision.
      All that time plotting Doug’s murder and not once did she reconsider and put a stop to it. Not only that but she was more than willing to let someone else take the blame for it afterwards. So not only did she lack compassion or empathy for months prior to the murder but she continued to show no remorse afterwards.

    • @DannyKa-x8z
      @DannyKa-x8z 2 роки тому +2

      it was reserved and deserved for her ... Good riddance

    • @ailleananaithnid2566
      @ailleananaithnid2566 2 роки тому +2

      @@alexblaze8878 That may be true but you’re referring to one aggravating factor. Still, the murder was in no way atrociously heinous & cruel. There was no torture involved.
      In addition, there were mitigating factors present. The bottom line, however, was that the state’s star witness got caught in a number of lies. Further, he took a deal to save his own skin. It Is a bitter irony in our law when the guy who personally committed the murder ends up with a lighter sentence.
      If people familiarize themselves with the Gregg decision (the SCOTUS cases to
      reinstate capital punishment: Gregg v. Georgia, Jurek v. Texas, and Proffitt v. Florida) it’s clear that our contemporary use of the death penalty is not in line with the Gregg decision.

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 2 роки тому +3

      @@ailleananaithnid2566 Personally committing the murder doesn't necessarily make for the the worse offender. If the driving force behind a killing happens to be the one not involved physically, that person still deserves the worse punishment. The fact is, without Kelly, this murder would not have occurred. And it's likely she would have looked for another co-conspirator to do the dirty work if he'd been unwilling. Charles Manson is a pretty good analogue here. He didn't personally kill anyone. He also suffered horrendous abuse and neglect in his childhood. But he was without even the capacity for empathy, and so was Kelly. In fact, Manson's neglect is corroborated by witnesses and records. Kelly's isn't.
      It's not ironic that people receive lighter sentences through plea deals. It's a reality that we have to accept if we want less innocent people in jail, and more guilty people in jail.

  • @rosenbaum75
    @rosenbaum75 2 роки тому +8

    Loving your spradic upload schedule!!

  • @FreyjaYngling
    @FreyjaYngling 2 роки тому +4

    You know who might be fun to analyze? Amy and Samy from Amy's Baking Company.

  • @qingyunwang3802
    @qingyunwang3802 2 роки тому +23

    Drugs used for lethal injection need to be "safe" to make sure to process appears as humanely as the protocol demands, otherwise the state risks getting sued by the condemned's family for wrongful death, or better yet, violation of the Eighth Amendment and gets death sentence suspended (like that case in Ohio).

    • @alexblaze8878
      @alexblaze8878 2 роки тому +1

      Honestly a .40 caliber or .45 ACP round through the back of the head would be quicker, much cheaper, and absolutely painless. The condemned wouldn’t even hear the shot that killed them. One second you’re there, and a split second later you’re gone. I’m compassionate even for death row inmates in that I don’t believe we should make them suffer-their punishment is death not torture or undue suffering. There are faster, more efficient ways of executing someone than using lethal drugs.

    • @qingyunwang3802
      @qingyunwang3802 2 роки тому +8

      @@alexblaze8878 The “humane” is not for the inmate but for the witnesses. The second drug in cocktail paralyzes the condemned so even they are in agony they can’t scream and a façade of peace is preserved. Gunshot maybe more humane to the condemned but it creates a bloody mess and that only pushes the population against death penalty.

    • @dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263
      @dontdiscriminatehateeveryo9263 2 роки тому +1

      They should die how their victims did. That might deter some of this. Oh so you tortured and r@p€d your victim for days then allowed dogs to rip them apart then you get the same.

    • @alexblaze8878
      @alexblaze8878 2 роки тому +4

      @@qingyunwang3802 eh, put a canvas bag over their head, no fuss, no mess. We’ve gotten so soft we’re now sympathizing more with the family of the condemned than we are with the family of the victims. I don’t think the victim’s family would care one bit if it was “messy” but fine, put a bag over his head then.
      I do see your point about public perception-bunch of pansies can’t handle real life.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому +3

      It really isn't very difficult to kill a mammal quickly and effectively. These supposed complications are entirely contrived.

  • @ChaCha.44
    @ChaCha.44 2 роки тому +41

    I’ve never heard of “financial narcissism”! I’d love a video on that, Dr. G!! Loved your analysis of this case, I’d never heard of it before. I also found it odd how Doug was supposedly killed so “easily” after he had so many opportunities to NOT be killed by Greg…like, why would Doug (or any typical person for that matter) NOT try to at least put up a good fight for his life that was being threatened?! I mean, he was bigger in size compared to little Greggie!! AND Greg only had a knife, which isn’t good, I know…but come on, it’s not like he had a firearm held at the back of Doug’s head or on his temple the entire time! I found it so unbelievable that Doug did NOT even TRY to physically injure Greg, get the knife from him, or just simply bolt and run away as fast as he could?! Why not even hit the brakes super hard while driving, or create a kind of “uproar” in the streets (like screaming out the window or even just WAVING WILDLY out of it for Pete’s sakes!) to draw attention to the car they were in? I know I sure would’ve tried pretty much all of the above had it been me in the driver’s seat, including driving to the the police station, or heck, ANY busy parking lot would do just as well too! 🙄 Ummm I think most ppl would do the same, just as Dr. G stated! Just more proof that Greg couldn’t have really been the “mastermind” behind Doug’s senseless murder! Actually, using the term “mastermind” when thinking of those two just seems so wrong. She may have been smarter in other areas than Greg, but I doubt this woman killer was a genius or anything like that. Just money-hungry…so greedy that she got sloppy…well, she let Greg get too sloppy also…so ofc she got caught! 👏
    RIP Doug. Sorry you got mixed up wayyyy too many times with that horrible, nasty…thing. 🤢

    • @dianevanderlinden3480
      @dianevanderlinden3480 2 роки тому +4

      there is 'financial enslavement' and 'financial domination' where the guy gets off on having a woman basically drain his bank account. It's often done online and they often never meet in IRL. I learned about that while researching phone sex workers.

    • @letsgo9901
      @letsgo9901 2 роки тому +2

      Imelda Marcos knew about Financial Narcissism !

    • @LaniLanilei
      @LaniLanilei 2 роки тому +2

      @@letsgo9901 and shoes

    • @LaniLanilei
      @LaniLanilei 2 роки тому +2

      Or look out for a police car and do an illegal traffic move like running a green light

    • @ChaCha.44
      @ChaCha.44 2 роки тому +1

      @@LaniLanilei excellent idea, yes!! 👏 👏

  • @wrmlm37
    @wrmlm37 2 роки тому +16

    Good heaven! This reminds me of the State who botched an execution, said they would do better, and the very next death row inmate, they didnt have the correct meds. It was absolutely incredible to me that something SO important is just turfed to someone who obviously didn't give a single f**k how well they carried out their duties.
    Edit: this feels like one of those situations where the sociopathy was "made", not born. Very, very sad. I'm sorry for all concerned.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому +1

      What makes it "SO important"? I would agree if this were about the right dose of morphine for a patient in a hospital. But it doesn't seem overly important for an execution.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 Рік тому

      ​@@eadweard.lethal injection legally has to be painless

  • @Cristinamk
    @Cristinamk 2 роки тому +2

    Dr. Grande, I am a Victim Advocate in the state of Georgia. I would like to point out that it isn’t necessary for the death penalty to be sought in order to seek life without parole. There are several ways the prosecutor can request this sentence, but as far as it pertains to the above, all that’s required is that her actions meet the criteria - the prosecutor does not necessarily need to move for it!

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому

      Given our current culture, I first assumed that a "victim advocate" would be someone who advocates on behalf of the "victims" of the death penalty.

    • @Cristinamk
      @Cristinamk 2 роки тому

      @@eadweard. I work for the State and support the victims of violent crimes throughout the course of the judicial process. It’s a very involved job but I adore my work!

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому

      @@Cristinamk important work. Thank you for your efforts.

  • @ultraviolet6989
    @ultraviolet6989 2 роки тому +5

    Dr. Grande can you please analyze the Stanford Prison Experiment?

  • @EarlSmith2469
    @EarlSmith2469 2 роки тому +4

    Excellent video, Dr. Grande! Your comments about the inconsistencies in his story are eye-opening and insightful! Cheers from Vegas! Thank you

  • @Swansong321
    @Swansong321 2 роки тому +9

    Executions are never warranted..it's murder..how can you murder someone to demonstrate that murder is wrong?..and in this case it is clear that she was vulnerable and disadvantaged..what does they say about us as a society?

    • @damienhunt4264
      @damienhunt4264 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly. It's incongruent.

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. 2 роки тому +2

      The death penalty is not murder. So no such contradiction exists.

    • @munhl
      @munhl 2 роки тому +1

      Its more about protecting society. There have been death row prisoners, that have had their sentences commuted to life, then been relased after 20-25 years. Plenty of these people were only stopped becuase of being caught and admit that they would have continued. I also think that it is a way for the authorities to rectify their own earlier mistakes when criminals have been released early, allowed to plea to lesser crimes, have had charges dropped etc so they are free to commit further crimes, in short they could have been stopped years earlier.
      Execution has to also act as a deterant, lots of accused have plead guilty just to take the death penalty of the table. It also has to do with public perception about the criminal justice system, if someone commits heinous crimes for decades and then gets a sentence of 25 years but is eligible for parole, that wouldn't be considered by a majority of the public as a sentence that fits the crime. Also, look at some of the more famous crimes around the world, some sentencing in European countries and small island nations are very lenient.

  • @sevenitta-_-
    @sevenitta-_- 2 роки тому +1

    Once again Dr. Grande making me chuckle while listening to a sad, sick story.

  • @sarahm9723
    @sarahm9723 2 роки тому +1

    I just saw this story on Killer Couples. Many say that she did it because she spent her younger years in a home that was less than idyllic - abusive, unstable, without peace. For every murderer who grew up in such circumstances, there are many people who grew up in similar difficult circumstances but killed no one at all. Likewise, there are many people who grew up in decent homes, who went on to commit murder. Ultimately the truth is that every step you take is a choice you are making. No one else is making your decisions. You are the ultimate decider.

  • @cirrbagel430
    @cirrbagel430 2 роки тому +81

    Dr. Grande, could you analyze the UA-camr James Kingston? He free climbs some incredibly dangerous heights on cranes and other high structures. He free hangs with one hand hundreds of feet above the ground. Looking to understand how someone's brain might work who does that and what would drive them to risk their life so recklessly

    • @pattygravs6354
      @pattygravs6354 2 роки тому +8

      Ooh that sounds really good, I have always wondered about people who do extreme sports like those people who jump off mountains on glide suits.

    • @greatamericandreamrealtyli6583
      @greatamericandreamrealtyli6583 2 роки тому

      That would be interesting!

    • @greatamericandreamrealtyli6583
      @greatamericandreamrealtyli6583 2 роки тому

      @@pattygravs6354 Me too!

    • @artvandelayRFC
      @artvandelayRFC Рік тому +14

      @Patty Gravs Mostly people from upper middle and upper class backgrounds. It gives them a bit of danger in their life to make up for having such an easy upbringing.

    • @Heyu7her3
      @Heyu7her3 Рік тому +9

      "Adrenaline junkies" usually have ADHD hyperactive type

  • @HeatherHolt
    @HeatherHolt 2 роки тому +4

    Dr. Grande,
    Please do a video on WeWork and that guy who was able to delude so many people. What a character and what a story. The company went from being worth BILLIONS to being bankrupt in a matter of weeks.

  • @lnc-to4ku
    @lnc-to4ku 2 роки тому +4

    What an incredibly fascinating video you put together, Dr. Grande! I never knew that mental and emotional development gets interrupted after a trauma.
    On a lighter note, your plants look amazing, and seeing that little guy always makes me smile! Also, you look very handsome in that shirt!

  • @donalynette
    @donalynette 2 роки тому +13

    I think many have had trauma in our lives & experienced arrested development. I am opposed to the death penalty across board. She had a very painful childhood. Saying life isn’t fair, does not solve the problem. Yes I agree with the Dr., on her guilt, but no she did not deserve death.

    • @t2av159
      @t2av159 2 роки тому

      Child killers and pedos deserve the death penalty

  • @bohemianscrapgirl
    @bohemianscrapgirl 2 роки тому +9

    Very sad story regarding this young woman. Thanks Dr. Grande for all the time you put into your videos. It doesn't go unnoticed.

    • @emiiimm7436
      @emiiimm7436 2 роки тому +3

      the sad story is she killed an innocent man

    • @bohemianscrapgirl
      @bohemianscrapgirl 2 роки тому +1

      @@emiiimm7436 her story is sad as well. Obviously, it doesn't mitigate her actions at all. She has been more than punished.

    • @Lenn869
      @Lenn869 2 роки тому

      thats not a young woman thats a grown ass man lol

    • @bohemianscrapgirl
      @bohemianscrapgirl 2 роки тому

      @@Lenn869 the story and the person that was executed was a woman.

    • @Lenn869
      @Lenn869 2 роки тому +4

      @@bohemianscrapgirl I am aware. I was referring to her as a man to insult her based on her generally unfeminine and brutish appearance.

  • @Artwbesties
    @Artwbesties 2 роки тому +4

    12:12 Thank you for explaining this so well. I really appreciate it, it puts a lot of things in perspective.

  • @davidbrett1958
    @davidbrett1958 2 роки тому +7

    Great content Dr Grande always enjoy watching your uploads I've learnt a lot from your insightful and informative vids. Thanks from Australia!

  • @marysylvie2012
    @marysylvie2012 2 роки тому +11

    Kelly was doomed from the beginning. But Doug was too naive and did not listen to his parents!

  • @Blainiac_Sports
    @Blainiac_Sports 2 роки тому +34

    Wow she actually was executed. Of course this was bad, but wow seems a little harsh in this case compared to so many other stories. Again thanks for the video.

    • @jhonklan3794
      @jhonklan3794 Рік тому +3

      eh not really.

    • @DrDemented9885
      @DrDemented9885 Рік тому +2

      No it wasn’t evil to conspire her husbands murder and hid his body. Without her none of this happen.

    • @BlacksFirst-xo1kr
      @BlacksFirst-xo1kr Рік тому

      Well said Well said same thing I was saying

  • @btrue5341
    @btrue5341 2 роки тому +9

    I went to school with her daughter. She was very devastated by her mother's execution and fought until the very end to save her.

  • @HanHanMC
    @HanHanMC 2 роки тому +2

    So close to a million! Very exciting, you deserve it for sure.

  • @petruzzovichi
    @petruzzovichi 2 роки тому +2

    You are a knowledgeable gentleman with a sense of solid, emotionless, non-bias presentation. Well done again.
    When will you present your report on Dr. Todd Grande? I am certain we will all find that interesting, inspiring and motivating.

  • @chasepalagi7675
    @chasepalagi7675 2 роки тому

    8:17 it is not often I laugh at videos but Dr. G'S quip and deadpan delivery got me this time!

  • @lowelllarsen5947
    @lowelllarsen5947 2 роки тому +2

    I never heard of this case before- thanks for reviewing and the objective analysis

  • @myday805
    @myday805 2 роки тому +3

    If the drug was contaminated it might have done something like leave her in a vegetative state but not kill her or kill her but very painfully. There's plenty of reasons to not use the drug if it's iffy.

  • @ghadamamdouheskarous
    @ghadamamdouheskarous 2 роки тому +1

    Dr Grande analysis is always great

  • @purrfection2208
    @purrfection2208 2 роки тому +4

    Not everyone should have children. Kelly's life was messed up from the start. She asked that the murderer be convicted...well.

  • @stevie4641
    @stevie4641 2 роки тому +4

    Dr Grande, I literally laughed out loud at your comment about the medication used for the death penalty being cloudy and perhaps someone remarked "If we use this stuff...it could kill somebody".

  • @Somegirl811
    @Somegirl811 2 роки тому +10

    That hairdo never leads to a happy marriage.

  • @joko09010
    @joko09010 2 роки тому +1

    Phew! I was such searching for a new video! Yay…Dr. G to the rescue! 💪🏻

  • @nancyzehr3679
    @nancyzehr3679 2 роки тому +3

    That is a really nice shirt! Looks warm and comfy.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 2 роки тому +4

    I just finished watching your new podcast on BGM, which was fantastic, only to see an upload on this channel! 😃
    I am truly grateful for all that you do.💞

    • @cottontails9003
      @cottontails9003 2 роки тому +1

      Hello, Rejane how are you going my friend. I don't like, the death penalty. We don't have it in Australia, and I'm so pleased we don't. Have a good morning /evening. Its Monday the 29th at 6-05pm.

    • @rejaneoliveira5019
      @rejaneoliveira5019 2 роки тому

      @@cottontails9003 Hi Julianne, good morning! Probably that’s a good evening for you. I agree with you, I don’t endorse capital punishment. I hope that one day it can be abolished.😕

  • @natalielawyerchick
    @natalielawyerchick 2 роки тому +2

    Sounds like the prison wanted to delay the execution themselves. This is sad all around.

  • @solid9999fine
    @solid9999fine 2 роки тому +15

    I believe the people analyzing this are giving this woman wayyyy more thought and consideration to her life than she ever gave, and definitely looking to care for her to the insult of her victim and his family. She went where she belonged. What a headache of a person.

    • @cameronfielder4955
      @cameronfielder4955 2 роки тому +2

      Capital punishment is wrong. A civilized society should not execute criminals under any circumstance. Giving the state the power to take lives is a slippery slope.

    • @tb-dv1zc
      @tb-dv1zc 2 роки тому +3

      Your comment may be true of you

    • @solid9999fine
      @solid9999fine 2 роки тому +1

      You are giving me a headache....lol.....

  • @brianpratt3224
    @brianpratt3224 2 роки тому +5

    Two in one day. Good job, Doctor.

  • @maren2651
    @maren2651 2 роки тому +2

    What struck me was the part when Kelly was noted to display seemingly fake, over the top emotions, which is a symptom of Histrionic Personality traits. I know that wasn’t explicitly brought up, though it is a Cluster B disorder, but I’d love to see a video covering how Histrionic traits could manifest in relation to a crime. Like a general overview.
    Thank you for another great video Dr. Grande! These have been keeping me sane during my partial psych hospitalization. The irony, I know, but I find it fascinating nonetheless.

  • @theresakarr4302
    @theresakarr4302 2 роки тому +3

    Yes very interesting dialog. Tyvm . It was very satisfying to hear that financial narcissism is a real condition. I was in a relationship with someone who is that way. When I told him he was a financial narssacist he said there is no such thing. Lol !

  • @Keish03
    @Keish03 2 роки тому +7

    During my PsyD studies I fought tooth and nail to be able to have a Rorschach Test class bc my professors claimed that it was a very important test to know how to administer and only THE BEST knew how. I even collected signatures. Imagine my absolute disappointment and anger when they finally agreed to give us the class and it turned out to be a guessing game test. Its basically a Horoscope. Its utter bullshit and is in NO WAY based in scientific evidence. How and why its still being used is beyond me.

    • @gigi9301
      @gigi9301 2 роки тому +2

      Good point! I guess the same reason that polygraphs are still used as a tool in law enforcement. They are only used as an investigative technique, in hopes to gain confession/information from the suspect...never admissible in court. They might as well use a tarot card reading, but the police will act as if it "shows" truth or guilt, which it does not. If the suspect goes along with the charade, he or she may just "crack" and confess true and/or false information, even though there is in reality no such thing as passing or failing a polygraph.

    • @Keish03
      @Keish03 2 роки тому +1

      @@gigi9301 Yeah. Its just to me thats manipulation an not a "fair" tactic for finding the truth. Ugh, it sucks that its allowed.

    • @gigi9301
      @gigi9301 2 роки тому

      @@Keish03 Police can also pretty much lie about anything to attempt to coax a confession from a suspect. For instance, they can say they have proof/evidence that you did it, they can say well your friend already told on you, etc... The only limits they have in interrogation are that if they have to let you go and you can verify they lied, then of course you would realize the questioning was all for intimidation and for the purpose of obtaining a confession. If you refuse to be questioned and request a lawyer, they also must stop without an attorney present on your behalf, whether it's your own or a court-appointed one. Especially if it's your own (paid out of your own pocket) attorney, the cops will not even try the shady tactics such as "lie detector" tests, screaming and intimidation, and/or lying about what they do or don't know about the crime committed.
      I'm sorry you went through that experience in school and I can only guess that it was used as a means to get students to reveal personal and/or damning information in order to weed out undesirable and/or "unfit" candidates. It just seems highly unethical.

  • @stellabirdthistle3585
    @stellabirdthistle3585 2 роки тому +1

    I love your wry sense of humour. Very informative videos. Thank you.

  • @faronrich9381
    @faronrich9381 2 роки тому

    My family is in construction and has built several houses for family members. The one thing I have learned is that the neighbors are stealing the construction materials. Unless someone is bold enough to bring a truck onto the property, the wood is being stolen one 2*4 or pack of shingles at a time. It's annoying when you realize a neighbor has a new playhouse in their backyard with the same color shingles or siding as your new house.

  • @ordinarychildhood
    @ordinarychildhood 2 роки тому +1

    I really like your analyzation of these situations. I don't think that there is one video that I have seen which I didn't like. please continue what you are doing. I hope my children can benefit from your videos one day.

  • @billhildebrand5053
    @billhildebrand5053 2 роки тому +1

    This has as much relevance as when I saw it on Patreon. What an interminable circumstance this is. There are so many facets which could have been changed based on variable choices which could have been made.
    Thanks Dr. Grande.

  • @wadegoodwin6773
    @wadegoodwin6773 2 роки тому +2

    This is such an eye opener Doc, thank you so much indeed.....

  • @mistrjt9213
    @mistrjt9213 Рік тому +1

    “ if we use this stuff, you can kill somebody! “This Hass to be one of my top 10 favorite Dr. grande burns.

  • @glendasully
    @glendasully 2 роки тому +1

    I still believe that even when someone is raised in a violent & abusive home that they have a choice as to how to live their life as an adult. I, too, suffer from PTSD because of childhood mental, emotional, & physical abuse. I swore I'd never be like my mother & father. My children were raised with love & nurtured & cared for & are well balanced adults

    • @glendasully
      @glendasully 2 роки тому

      @@kevinhudson3032
      Thank you for your service to our country. I hope you are healthy today

  • @kimberlysmith7311
    @kimberlysmith7311 2 роки тому +2

    Very good analysis Dt. Grande. 👍 These stories are so sad. This is another case I had never heard about, until now. You brought up pertinent points about her mental health clinicians, and lack of believability of the killer's story.) To me there was reasonable doubt that she was involved, just from what I heard here, but it seems likely that she was involved, however death, yes, was too harsh a punishment. 🙂 Just my opinion, we all have one like... lmao 🤣 have a great day. Dr. Grande. Your down to earth 🌎 , soft spoken,, sometimes funny,, and objective professional approach is just , sexy, Like Clark Kent before he reveals he is Suoerman. 💕💕💕💕💕💨💨💨💨💨

  • @natekeyes2297
    @natekeyes2297 2 роки тому +4

    As a commenter said below, "Bad history no excuse for murder." It's a question that has been asked for decades but bears repeating: What about all the people who suffer trauma and abuse and go on to live their lives without committing violence? Also, what about this blanket statement that when people suffer childhood trauma they remain at the age they were when this occurred? A lot of people suffer childhood trauma and do not become stuck at that age. I'm so tired of the "abuse excuse" whenever someone commits a horrible crime. I see no reason for this woman to be alive and taking up prison space.

  • @michaelgreer9023
    @michaelgreer9023 2 роки тому +3

    Gissendaner: Given the number of abusive relationships and references to death/killing, how can anyone with a sane mind deny the function of the "death wish" as part of the human apparatus? Freud's speculative treatment of this impulse is developed in his work Beyond the Pleasure Principle (1920). We can speculate that life presents situations of enormous tension and stress and the death drive is merely a response to that uncomfortable situation. Bataille develops this theme using the terms "continuity" and "discontinuity" in his work Erotism (English translation, 1986). Discontinuity is our separation from one another: you in the video audience, Dr. Grande as the speaker. There's a gap. Gaps make people uncomfortable. We seek "continuity." Erotic behavior is always pointing to the limit condition: death or extinction. The facts are diverse and plural. Only the simple minded believe that life is only about living. It's actually about dying. Notice that "life," especially in Kelly's case, was just one delay after another until the final resolution. Even the chemical used to kill her was subjected to delays. Delay, delay, delay. That's life. But that seems true of all of us. Until there are no more delays, and no more posts. The most basic "trauma" is birth itself. It's always in the background.

  • @dmitrymanchenkov2996
    @dmitrymanchenkov2996 Рік тому +1

    Thanks a lot, Dr. Grande! ''A safer lethal drug...'' Beautiful! Yes, that's one of the things that can pretty much puzzle anyone, just like the question of why they have to sterilize needles or the spot of injection on the skin of the person to be executed. Are they afraid to bring some infection into a dead body? It would be very interesting to hear your analysis of the case of Jön Andreas Nödtveidt, a famous Swedish singer and musician.

  • @renee1961
    @renee1961 2 роки тому

    Good evening, again, Dr. Grande. 🙋🌵🪴🌵🪴 Thank You!

  • @Allypooh88
    @Allypooh88 2 роки тому +12

    I admit I believe in the death penalty, but this case is just a little too uncertain for me to feel it was warranted here. Thanks for another thought-provoking video ❤️

    • @damienhunt4264
      @damienhunt4264 2 роки тому +2

      The death penalty never acts as a deterrent and is incongruent with a civilized society.

  • @birdworldist
    @birdworldist 2 роки тому +2

    Yooo bless up king Grande

  • @feeltheillinois
    @feeltheillinois 2 роки тому +14

    i agree with capital punishment but this one doesnt seem to warrant it

  • @LS-ny8mr
    @LS-ny8mr 2 роки тому

    Very good Dr.Grande always love the dry humor too!

  • @purplerain2314
    @purplerain2314 2 роки тому +15

    Thank you for explaining the probable reason for her immaturity in relation to PTSD as now I know why I was immature. 💚

    • @renee1961
      @renee1961 2 роки тому +4

      Same here. I understand now. Dr. Grande is great!

  • @Ena48145
    @Ena48145 2 роки тому +4

    Imagine thinking pleading and getting 25 years is bad only to be sentenced to death..

  • @FinarfinNoldorin
    @FinarfinNoldorin 2 роки тому +6

    Mental health treatment is so badly needed in America..it is so hard to get, and the outcome is so sad.

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 2 роки тому +1

    Great video 📹
    'Justice ⚖ served.
    American values protected.

  • @coreywiley3981
    @coreywiley3981 2 роки тому +3

    I'm against the death sentence and I also feel life sentences are inhumane. We should have no more than 20 year sentences that can be extended if a person still seems truly dangerous to society. We also should have humane., rehabilitative, restorative justice with options for pathways toward redemption through good acts.

  • @TJDious
    @TJDious 2 роки тому +4

    She engaged in a conspiracy to murder someone and it succeeded. This is exactly what the death penalty is for. She had to have known the death penalty was on the table when she refused the plea deal, so she essentially rejected an offer that could have saved her life.

  • @zero_bs_tolerance8646
    @zero_bs_tolerance8646 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks, Doc.

  • @darkdistiller
    @darkdistiller 2 роки тому +6

    Hey Doctor Grande! Hope everything is good with you. So I just finished watching House of Gucci, and despite what you think of the movie of the accents I think the character of Patrizia Reggiani to be quite fascinating and think that what be a great subject to talk about.

  • @pyry1948
    @pyry1948 2 роки тому +2

    A video on Frank Sinatra would be welcome, he had a very interesting personality.

  • @diannabutler2674
    @diannabutler2674 Рік тому +2

    This brings me to the law about reasonable doubt. (If it is a law). Wouldnt everyone have a little bit of doubt, if they didn't see the crime? And now its been proven that eye witnesses are not good at remembering things at all.

  • @farnazrostami5302
    @farnazrostami5302 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent analysis 💯. An other case which proves that how domestic violence can ruin lives 😞. Thank you doctor.
    BTW: miss the cute lamp 🙂.

  • @UncleBuZ
    @UncleBuZ 2 роки тому +5

    Seems to be some sort of kerfuffle goin on with the plants.

  • @davidbrienlantry8760
    @davidbrienlantry8760 2 роки тому +3

    What happened to the bookshelf?!

  • @shinskoala7072
    @shinskoala7072 2 роки тому +2

    So sad. I know mental health is the point of this video, but never let your murderer take you to a secondary and secluded location.

  • @WileyCylas
    @WileyCylas 2 роки тому +2

    Watching me some Doc Grande w/my 5 month old kitten & some tasty grub from the local pizza joint. Not sure how this man keeps a straight face during his dry witty quips 😹🍕

  • @keithbrunson7190
    @keithbrunson7190 2 роки тому +2

    This was a cluster of errors made on everyone's part. Georgia is legally primitive. Thanks for bringing this to light.

  • @penelopehughes-jones5265
    @penelopehughes-jones5265 2 роки тому

    Looking very trim, Dr G. Not many people can wear that colour and yet it looks fab on you. Very sad case however and agree completely with your findings, I think Kelly's behaviour was enough to prove her childhood abuse was true and as such she certainly didn't deserve to be put to death, not that anyone does imho and of course, Doug certainly didn't either.
    I learned a lot (as always) I had no idea arrested development was so literal...that's so useful, thank you. Best to you and your loved ones.🙏

  • @thorgrootsweetrabbit2244
    @thorgrootsweetrabbit2244 2 роки тому +2

    I think a case can be made for inadequate counsel, she should have been urged to accept the plea deal?

  • @ingenious4t
    @ingenious4t 2 роки тому +1

    The part about the fact her colleagues found her immature and your take on it struck me Dr Grande. Being subjected to trauma at a young age and losing natural brain/age maturity because of it, is something I never considered having witnessed and been subjected to traumatic events as a young one, it’s really got me thinking of the past and thinking of others I’ve met whom I considered immature. The rest of the video was really interesting thanks so much.
    May I suggest a topic for your analysis?
    On 12th August 2021 a mass shooting occurred in Keyham, Plymouth, Uk. The perpetrator, Jake Davison was afterwards described as an Incel. I wonder if you and your viewers would find this tragic event of interest. I’d be keen to hear your final analysis should you wish to research this.