A few hints on a RWD zetec build, including some measurements and engine weight. Built for gas mileage and inexpensive parts. In my opinion use a V8 for performance.
I'm currently doing a 2005 Zetec 2.0L with RWD conversion (Conversion kit from the UK), and I got a custom bellhousing and clutch to fit a 1992 Ford Falcon (Australian 6Cyl) T5 5-speed, and all that is going in a 1975 MK-1 Escort. Not a cheap build, but it'll be well worth it.
+Jason O'Connell. That sounds like a nice project. Those older cars weigh next to nothing and need all but 5 hp to go like stink. A much more modern motor stuffed in there will surely push it into ludicrous speed territory.
Don’t put wd40 in the bores! It will induce rust because it’s water based. Just engine oil will be fine. Other than tgat I enjoyed watching your video 👍
cosworth bell housing - straight on, transit connect diesel starter motor-straight on DONT use original cosworth, retro ford zetec to cosworth t5 flywheel £450 - straight on, cosworth 23 spline clutch- straight on, cosworth t5 input shaft-straight on, 24 tooth , swap it into the ford mustang V8 only t5, wont fit v6 or 4 banger retro ford hydraulic bearing kit £220 - straight on, cosworth friction disc 240mm straight on, use stock ecu, vroom
I HAVE A 03 FOCUS(FUCUS) & IM REPLACING MY MAIN & ROD BEARINGS & IM HOPING I CAN CHANGE THE MAIN BEARINGS WITH THE MOTOR STILL IN THE CAR & WITH THE CAMSHAFT IN PLACE??? I HAVENT TAKEN OFF MY MAIN CAPS YET BUT, I HAVE BOTH THE UPPER & LOWER OIL PAN SITTING IN MY KITCHEN!!! I NEVER KNEW THAT ABOUT THE REVERSAL OF THE PICKUP TUBE & OIL PAN WITH A MURCURY!!! COOL. I WOULDNT MIND MAKING A PIPE BUGGY WITH A ZETEC BUT, MY GIRL HAS A 2.7 IN HER SEBRING & IT HAS SOOOO MUCH MORE TORQUE & HP THAT ID RATHER USE IT IN ANY PIPE BUGGY BUT, THE ZETEC IS ALOT SMALLER!!!! IDK THE STATS BUT BY FEEL, THE 2.7 FEELS ABOUT DOUBLE THE POWER AT LEAST!!!
I believe it was a mystique. Its been a while but they have the oil pan with the sump on the transmission side and required pickup tube. You can also order the pans direct from Autozone for about 50 bucks but you will need to source the pickup. Try searching a 2000 mercury mystique. As always compare your bolt pattern to the bolt pattern needed to ensure correct fit.
Unfortunately I never kept a lot of that information as most parts are from the junkyard (JY). I will try to list some things from memory Full motor and accesories (JY) = 350 Transmission (JY) = 75 Gasket set from Central Florida Motorsports (CFM) Bellhousing from Quad for rods Hydro Throw out bearing from Ram Clutches (needed slight modifying) Clutch disk from Ram clutches for a turbo 4 cylinder mustang (9, 1/4 inch i think) Stock clutch pressure plate and flywheel Exhaust is a cut off factory flange system with welded exhaust tubing (Q4rods sells a flange) Intake is ... not to happy with available options attempted a home build, still not quite happy Siemens 60lb/hr injectors Comp Cams from CFM ECU is an MS3 Ended up swapping to ford 3g Alternator to work with the nissans older charge system (can be done with a silver top zetec but I used an alternator from a taurus) Oil pan and pick up from a zetec mercury
The sump that comes on the 2000-2004 ford focus is a front sump. This is also the vehicle the engine i came out of but with a mercury oil pan swapped on to it (what you see in the video).
Hi Jayslow7 type 9 gearboxes from sierrra are common to get where i am and i want to know if that will bolt on including the flywheel and stuff. thanks
The rear axle is the factory 280zx Nissan unit the motor is currently installed in. The website jagsthatrun.com has the 1310 u-joint flange to adapt to a standard ford type drive shaft.
+Greg Dumont. Its from a company called quad4rods (quad4rods.com). They specialize in making bellhousings for ford and chevy four cylinders. I believe they also make adapter plates for these engines and also do some V6 motors that were never RWD from the factory.
All in about 2000 US dollars. That includes the motor, rebuild kit with bearings and gaskets, transmission, camshafts, MS2 ecu, new clutch, hydraulic throwout bearing, bellhousing, accessories, intake, exhaust, and other random parts. There is a decent pick-a-part near me and most parts were sourced there. For example the motor, starter, trans, flywheel, and accessories totalled about 350 dollars. The biggest expense was the bellhousing from Quad 4 Rods at 600 dollars. No labor costs except time. The motor is going in an old beat up nissan. Just trying something different and random. Got tired of v8 gas mileage.
I believe it is more about gear ratios. Yes a super heavy duty transmission that weighs 1000 lbs will not be very good behind a Zetec but the T5 weighs about 80 lbs with the bellhousing. The gears are not that big themselves and are considered a light to medium duty transmission. These transmission can be found behind the 4 cylinder mustang as well and this is why Q4R makes bellhousings for them. The t-5 has been around for ever, has rebuild options for all kinds of ratios, and is very affordable even when brand new. My reasoning for the V6 version and not the I4 version was as follows. The V6 T-5 has a lower first and fifth gear ratio than the I4 from the factory. The car the motor is going in has a higher rear end ratio than the mustang these motors are found in. This will provide the V6 version about the same final drive ratios as the 4 cylinder mustang. Or I could be off in left field all together. These are not the only transmissions that can be used. There are lighter transmissions you can use if you are really pound counting your build but that is a different level of build than what I am looking for.
+JaySlow7 Since my comment was posted, I've had a chance to see this transmission in person. It was a display piece with a quarter round sized cutout along the length of the transmission to show off the internal parts. Now I can see why it makes a lot of sense. I've got plans for my Mk1 Zetec Focus for the future like replacing the automatic transaxle with the manual and rebuilding the engine strong enough to handle about 20 pounds of boost off a supercharger, but I'm not doing that till either one of em' dies of natural causes. Sleeper!!
I'm currently doing a 2005 Zetec 2.0L with RWD conversion (Conversion kit from the UK), and I got a custom bellhousing and clutch to fit a 1992 Ford Falcon (Australian 6Cyl) T5 5-speed, and all that is going in a 1975 MK-1 Escort.
Not a cheap build, but it'll be well worth it.
+Jason O'Connell. That sounds like a nice project. Those older cars weigh next to nothing and need all but 5 hp to go like stink. A much more modern motor stuffed in there will surely push it into ludicrous speed territory.
Currently building a MK2 fiesta with a 1.8 blacktop zetec, using a ford Sierra type 9 gearbox
Don’t put wd40 in the bores! It will induce rust because it’s water based. Just engine oil will be fine. Other than tgat I enjoyed watching your video 👍
What transmission did you use? Looks great mate!
cosworth bell housing - straight on, transit connect diesel starter motor-straight on DONT use original cosworth, retro ford zetec to cosworth t5 flywheel £450 - straight on, cosworth 23 spline clutch- straight on, cosworth t5 input shaft-straight on, 24 tooth , swap it into the ford mustang V8 only t5, wont fit v6 or 4 banger retro ford hydraulic bearing kit £220 - straight on, cosworth friction disc 240mm straight on, use stock ecu, vroom
What did you put that in ?
I HAVE A 03 FOCUS(FUCUS) & IM REPLACING MY MAIN & ROD BEARINGS & IM HOPING I CAN CHANGE THE MAIN BEARINGS WITH THE MOTOR STILL IN THE CAR & WITH THE CAMSHAFT IN PLACE??? I HAVENT TAKEN OFF MY MAIN CAPS YET BUT, I HAVE BOTH THE UPPER & LOWER OIL PAN SITTING IN MY KITCHEN!!! I NEVER KNEW THAT ABOUT THE REVERSAL OF THE PICKUP TUBE & OIL PAN WITH A MURCURY!!! COOL. I WOULDNT MIND MAKING A PIPE BUGGY WITH A ZETEC BUT, MY GIRL HAS A 2.7 IN HER SEBRING & IT HAS SOOOO MUCH MORE TORQUE & HP THAT ID RATHER USE IT IN ANY PIPE BUGGY BUT, THE ZETEC IS ALOT SMALLER!!!! IDK THE STATS BUT BY FEEL, THE 2.7 FEELS ABOUT DOUBLE THE POWER AT LEAST!!!
Your caps lock appears to be on, it seems like your yelling.
I AM WATCHING ANOTHER BUILD & HE NEED TO KNOW WHAT MERCURY HAS A ZETEC WITH THE OIL PAN REVERSED??? IF U COULD PLEASE LET ME KNOW? THANK U!!!
I believe it was a mystique. Its been a while but they have the oil pan with the sump on the transmission side and required pickup tube. You can also order the pans direct from Autozone for about 50 bucks but you will need to source the pickup. Try searching a 2000 mercury mystique. As always compare your bolt pattern to the bolt pattern needed to ensure correct fit.
What transmission is that and is the starter in the original location high under the intake?
Transmission at 3:52
Starter at 11:43
is there any way you could get a parts list together? really trying to do this to my rally car
Unfortunately I never kept a lot of that information as most parts are from the junkyard (JY). I will try to list some things from memory
Full motor and accesories (JY) = 350
Transmission (JY) = 75
Gasket set from Central Florida Motorsports (CFM)
Bellhousing from Quad for rods
Hydro Throw out bearing from Ram Clutches (needed slight modifying)
Clutch disk from Ram clutches for a turbo 4 cylinder mustang (9, 1/4 inch i think)
Stock clutch pressure plate and flywheel
Exhaust is a cut off factory flange system with welded exhaust tubing (Q4rods sells a flange)
Intake is ... not to happy with available options attempted a home build, still not quite happy
Siemens 60lb/hr injectors
Comp Cams from CFM
ECU is an MS3
Ended up swapping to ford 3g Alternator to work with the nissans older charge system (can be done with a silver top zetec but I used an alternator from a taurus)
Oil pan and pick up from a zetec mercury
Hi, what sump will you recommend if i want this setup in a front sump car. i mean something i can bolt on
The sump that comes on the 2000-2004 ford focus is a front sump. This is also the vehicle the engine i
came out of but with a mercury oil pan swapped on to it (what you see in the video).
Hi Jayslow7 type 9 gearboxes from sierrra are common to get where i am and i want to know if that will bolt on including the flywheel and stuff. thanks
What kind or rear axle are you using for this?
The rear axle is the factory 280zx Nissan unit the motor is currently installed in. The website jagsthatrun.com has the 1310 u-joint flange to adapt to a standard ford type drive shaft.
Quad 4 rods bellhousing is that a custom piece?
I think they are no longer in business. The website name was quad4rods.com but i have not seen it in a long time.
where did you find that bellhousing?
+Greg Dumont. Its from a company called quad4rods (quad4rods.com). They specialize in making bellhousings for ford and chevy four cylinders. I believe they also make adapter plates for these engines and also do some V6 motors that were never RWD from the factory.
how much money do you think you spent and what is this going into.
All in about 2000 US dollars. That includes the motor, rebuild kit with bearings and gaskets, transmission, camshafts, MS2 ecu, new clutch, hydraulic throwout bearing, bellhousing, accessories, intake, exhaust, and other random parts. There is a decent pick-a-part near me and most parts were sourced there. For example the motor, starter, trans, flywheel, and accessories totalled about 350 dollars. The biggest expense was the bellhousing from Quad 4 Rods at 600 dollars. No labor costs except time. The motor is going in an old beat up nissan. Just trying something different and random. Got tired of v8 gas mileage.
Won't a V6 transmission bog down the Zetec? I know every pound counts when driving it, and that transmission will require extra power to turn.
why?
I believe it is more about gear ratios. Yes a super heavy duty transmission that weighs 1000 lbs will not be very good behind a Zetec but the T5 weighs about 80 lbs with the bellhousing. The gears are not that big themselves and are considered a light to medium duty transmission. These transmission can be found behind the 4 cylinder mustang as well and this is why Q4R makes bellhousings for them. The t-5 has been around for ever, has rebuild options for all kinds of ratios, and is very affordable even when brand new. My reasoning for the V6 version and not the I4 version was as follows. The V6 T-5 has a lower first and fifth gear ratio than the I4 from the factory. The car the motor is going in has a higher rear end ratio than the mustang these motors are found in. This will provide the V6 version about the same final drive ratios as the 4 cylinder mustang. Or I could be off in left field all together. These are not the only transmissions that can be used. There are lighter transmissions you can use if you are really pound counting your build but that is a different level of build than what I am looking for.
+JaySlow7 Since my comment was posted, I've had a chance to see this transmission in person. It was a display piece with a quarter round sized cutout along the length of the transmission to show off the internal parts. Now I can see why it makes a lot of sense. I've got plans for my Mk1 Zetec Focus for the future like replacing the automatic transaxle with the manual and rebuilding the engine strong enough to handle about 20 pounds of boost off a supercharger, but I'm not doing that till either one of em' dies of natural causes. Sleeper!!
I'd like to see somebody put a zetec in an rx8!