Could you SURVIVE in Ocarina of Time?

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  • Do you think YOU could survive in Ocarina of Time? To be honest, I don't think you got it in you. What would you do if you came across a Stalchild in Hyrule Field at night? You'd probably give up on the spot. Me though? I'm built different. I would easily parry his attack, dash behind him, and slice him into 38 pieces with my katana before his bony brain could even comprehend what was happening. And all his skeletal friends would surely tremble in fear before my awesome display of might. Then word would spread amongst Ganondorf's forces that I am not a force to be trifled with.
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    Music Used:
    Intro - Gerudo Valley (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    00:43 - Inside Jabu-Jabu's Belly (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    01:22 - Kokiri Forest (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    02:00 - Hyrule Field Main Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    05:13 - Zora's Domain (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    09:14 - Ganondorf's Theme (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    12:24 - Water Temple (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
    15:41 - Kakariko Village (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
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  • @XxguaxinimxX.
    @XxguaxinimxX. Місяць тому +2427

    Surviving Ocarina of Time for 3 days: 😃
    Surviving Majoras Mask for 3 days: 💀

    • @buttpiratesbuttpirate5913
      @buttpiratesbuttpirate5913 Місяць тому +40

      Oh god most certainly 😨

    • @nathansmiddy732
      @nathansmiddy732 Місяць тому +176

      That one pretty much forces you to go on the main quest yourself, huh? Unless you want to live for only three days or go completely bonkers just resetting the world every three days.

    • @buttsbrown2442
      @buttsbrown2442 Місяць тому +40

      @@nathansmiddy732 I mean, if you get the ocarina, and you still remember the songs, you can play them all right away, right?

    • @jamalshelton5746
      @jamalshelton5746 Місяць тому +100

      @@buttsbrown2442 that implies that you know how to play an ocarina.

    • @buttsbrown2442
      @buttsbrown2442 Місяць тому +59

      @@jamalshelton5746 Aw, it's just a bottle with some holes in it, and you got three days to figure it out, how hard could it be? (Don't answer that.)

  • @exiledgoldfish6329
    @exiledgoldfish6329 Місяць тому +1212

    Let’s not forget though that pretty much every single body of water in Hyrule gets filtered through the Zora kings butt crack.

    • @slyfox7452
      @slyfox7452 Місяць тому +140

      Protein?

    • @Delta040301
      @Delta040301 Місяць тому +155

      Flavour.

    • @trli7117
      @trli7117 Місяць тому +113

      There's a reason they need the well.

    • @greenyxd7298
      @greenyxd7298 Місяць тому

      his ass is clean. yours would be too if you flushed river amounts of water. but instead you have a disgusting inadequate ass compared to the kings

    • @RipleySawzen
      @RipleySawzen Місяць тому +85

      Only the purest water for Hyrule

  • @link1565V2
    @link1565V2 Місяць тому +1060

    "You blink and you find yourself in Link's house"
    Wheelchair users: "Guess I'll die."

    • @TangoStar
      @TangoStar Місяць тому +92

      Maybe Accessibility would be an interesting extra category or consideration on traversability

    • @clockworkkirlia7475
      @clockworkkirlia7475 Місяць тому +43

      @@TangoStar I would love that, personally. A little research on disability and mobility would be totally unique and really set this series apart.

    • @gurriato
      @gurriato Місяць тому +20

      There are very few places both in fiction and in the real world where a cripple could survive on his own. Being "differently abled" would just mean "dying" in almost every situation.

    • @ligilokranz6556
      @ligilokranz6556 Місяць тому +9

      @@gurriato Well, if you saw how DnD is today it is something similar, to be more inclusive, people with disabilities they have access to a magical combat chair that can fly and allows them to be super agile, plus it never breaks and things like that. It doesn't make any sense, anyone who has healthy feet should also use it if it's so good. In worlds of fantasy and fiction where magic exists, those types of disabilities don't make sense.

    • @Graknorke
      @Graknorke Місяць тому +20

      @@gurriato
      Damn if only there was some way for multiple organisms to work together so that one can cover the weaknesses of another...
      Unless something else kills you first disability is something that inevitably happens as one gets old and I don't know of any civilisation ever that didn't at least try to take care of its elderly.

  • @chaosvolt
    @chaosvolt Місяць тому +936

    Every moment you spend surviving, Ganondorf only grows more suavemente.

    • @slammbamm1977
      @slammbamm1977 Місяць тому +42

      Awesome reference 😂

    • @1th_to_comment.
      @1th_to_comment. Місяць тому +44

      Oh no... his power waxes while mine wanes 😭

    • @rheokalyke367
      @rheokalyke367 Місяць тому +45

      Easy solution. Join the Gerudo. Join the suavemente dance party as a backup dancer.

    • @terminalvelocityrunner2202
      @terminalvelocityrunner2202 Місяць тому

      @@rheokalyke367unless you’re a male. They’re a female society of WARRIORS if i remember correctly. So any males that try and join are probably not going to be in functional order for much longer. H**ny jokes aside, they didnt react well to Link’s trespassing in BotW, and i dont think they react well to male interlopers in various other games. Its safe to say male presence is not needed or wanted in their society. So “joining the Gerudo” is effectively a very selective solution. Sure you could probably barter or something with them. But i highly doubt their tolerance for anyone who isn’t biologically female or possibly an extremely difficult to pinpoint gender is going to last particularly long.

    • @ThePotatoWaveOfficial
      @ThePotatoWaveOfficial Місяць тому +7

      The Dale Zelda Dale! dance should do the trick

  • @enorma29
    @enorma29 Місяць тому +715

    imagine having to consume 7.5 liters of water every 12 minutes

    • @mrfrog1794
      @mrfrog1794 Місяць тому +57

      imagine how much pee

    • @sumthinorother9615
      @sumthinorother9615 Місяць тому +86

      Imagine _never_ needing water because time doesn’t flow in cities.

    • @AbeM.
      @AbeM. Місяць тому +67

      @@sumthinorother9615it only stops for Link, so imagine having to do something at a certain time of day, and suddenly you need to wait for the little gremlin kid to leave town so time starts moving again.

    • @wonkehcheetah1138
      @wonkehcheetah1138 Місяць тому +18

      I love water. I can drink about a gallon of water (~3.8L) over the course of an entire day. I could not imagine having to drink almost twice that 5 times an hour. That is literally 240 gallons (~908L) of water per day, just to survive.

    • @bugslayerprime7674
      @bugslayerprime7674 Місяць тому +8

      And the constant bowel movements!

  • @Wupar
    @Wupar Місяць тому +754

    Kakariko may SEEM comfy at a glance, but remember it's flanked by an active volcano on one side, a graveyard with actual ghosts on another side, is home to not one but two buried torture sites housing the vengeful undead, and also features a house full of cursed spider people. Plus the neighbors play their music really loud all night and you'd never get any sleep.
    The real chad move is to live at Lon Lon Ranch and work as a ranch hand. Comfy horseback riding, an endless supply of milk and dairy products, a jolly old man who entertains you with chicken hide-and-seek and is more than happy to marry off his incredibly beautiful songstress daughter to you, and the worst thing that happens there throughout the course of the game is a hostile buyout by the local Ganondorf fan.

    • @gwendolynstata3775
      @gwendolynstata3775 Місяць тому +81

      Lon Lon Ranch is a safe choice until night hits and so do those goddamn crows.

    • @nerd_world8919
      @nerd_world8919 Місяць тому +70

      I was also thinking about Lon Lon Ranch. Being a ranch hand would probably earn us rupees. I'm sure Talon (the owner of the ranch and father of Malon) would appreciate the help. You could live a pretty cozy/peaceful life being a cowboy/rancher and riding on horse back into town to deliver the lon lon milk.

    • @gabe5918
      @gabe5918 Місяць тому +42

      Endless supply of milk at Lon Lon Ranch, eh? 🥴🥛I’m sold.

    • @simeonellinger2064
      @simeonellinger2064 Місяць тому +18

      ​@@gabe5918I see you

    • @Apolleh
      @Apolleh Місяць тому +27

      Hell, even the hostile buyout is only a temporary issue. Even in a worst case where it gets so bad you have to leave, once Link changes things there you'll soon be seeing Malon selling Lon Lon Milk again where you learn the ranch is better. And given Malon and talon are nice people they'd no doubt happily accept you back.

  • @Deathnotefan97
    @Deathnotefan97 Місяць тому +67

    “Who gets the Triforce of Courage”
    Plot twist: I get the Triforce of Power and become the villain, and Ganondorf gets Courage

  • @Bacxaber
    @Bacxaber Місяць тому +131

    I feel like the removal of Link from that universe would either break the curse entirely, meaning Ganondorf would never be stopped, or it'd reincarnate a new Link. Two Links can exist at the same time, that's canon. It doesn't require the first one's soul or anything.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Місяць тому +5

      generally each link is only born every few hundreds or thousands of years between games though, we'd be long dead by then

    • @Bacxaber
      @Bacxaber Місяць тому +28

      @@Yamartim One of the topdown games has an old man who was the previous Link, and there was a scrapped game about an old librarian who takes in the next Link as his apprentice. Seems to me like it's every

    • @Dash123456789Brawl
      @Dash123456789Brawl Місяць тому +5

      @@BacxaberCould you clarify about the game with ‘the previous Link?’ All I could think of before you said it was a top-down game was that you meant the Hero’s Shade in TP. I’m not aware of any canon game that includes multiple concurrently living incarnations of Hyrule’s Link.

    • @Nathan-qp9uv
      @Nathan-qp9uv Місяць тому +12

      @@Dash123456789Brawl I think they might be mixing up the surviving member of Tetra's crew that knew WW Link and meets ST Link

    • @yohhh6715
      @yohhh6715 Місяць тому +3

      @@Nathan-qp9uvA Link Between Worlds

  • @swampfox1007
    @swampfox1007 Місяць тому +834

    Maybe the magic beans could be a source of food. The guy selling them is eating a lot of them.

    • @arrownaut6820
      @arrownaut6820 Місяць тому +67

      That's also what I was saying. They look pretty good too

    • @AdeptArcanist
      @AdeptArcanist Місяць тому +114

      Yeah, we know they have beans, nuts, and carrots (since making epona move faster involves feeding her carrots.)

    • @xamareik4661
      @xamareik4661 Місяць тому +31

      ​@AdeptArcanist I think the carrots are just a ui thing. Epona moves faster due to the fact link is whipping her

    • @zerotankor
      @zerotankor Місяць тому +55

      @@AdeptArcanistthere is also bees. So we have honey.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Місяць тому +45

      Also magic mushrooms in the forest!

  • @soj56
    @soj56 Місяць тому +460

    The presence of scarecrows in Lake Hylia implies crops I think.

    • @emilyrobinson6080
      @emilyrobinson6080 Місяць тому +53

      Especially since theyre standing in small tilled patches. Id imagine the old scientist or the fisherman grow things there to supplement fish and whatever else they might trade for with Zoras

    • @1th_to_comment.
      @1th_to_comment. Місяць тому +7

      ​@@emilyrobinson6080 just gotta theft some seeds and grow my own crops

    • @Ilander86
      @Ilander86 Місяць тому +22

      Plus how do you spur your horse to go faster? You feed them a carrot!
      I think Hyrule denizens just have social hangups with displaying vegetables in the open 😂

    • @shadesoftime
      @shadesoftime Місяць тому +2

      Also the windmill in Kakariko

    • @milokonna
      @milokonna Місяць тому +2

      I think it's the "in-game" thing. Like, the crops exist in lore, but they are not present as something visible in the game. So if we treat this thought exercise as literally being sucked into the game as is, we can't obtain any, because they are not there.

  • @shooby9496
    @shooby9496 17 днів тому +11

    I like how you showed 5/5 for traversability at the end while showing us a mechanism for travel that would almost certainly rip our arms out of our sockets.

    • @pinkdarkboy7127
      @pinkdarkboy7127 7 днів тому +2

      Physical therapists hate this one tool that will instantly destroy your joints!

  • @Prosecutor_justice
    @Prosecutor_justice Місяць тому +60

    I would team up with the guy that was making a bomb , to make a gun to shoot the Ganon

    • @FullAutoWitch
      @FullAutoWitch Місяць тому +23

      I'd try looking for Morshu in Hyrule, he must be somewhere there, hiding. Because he has lamp oil, ropes, bombs, I want, and it's mine as long as I have enough rupees.

    • @robertocastillo4107
      @robertocastillo4107 Місяць тому +5

      @@FullAutoWitch brilliant

    • @Prosecutor_justice
      @Prosecutor_justice Місяць тому +4

      @@FullAutoWitch Nice idea
      *Morshu trying to explain something gif playing*

  • @TheDufflebagGang
    @TheDufflebagGang Місяць тому +1331

    For the Triforce bit, that's essentially what happens in Wind Waker- there is no Legendary Hero to reincarnate, so the Triforce of Courage just splits up and has to be found again. It's definitely a thing to think on.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  Місяць тому +366

      GREAT point, thank you. I tried to shut out the triforce gathering in that game out of my mind, so I'm glad someone reminded me.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 Місяць тому +120

      A scavenger hunt like that would probably have more eager participants than just Link since the world isn't flooded.

    • @TheDufflebagGang
      @TheDufflebagGang Місяць тому +17

      @@PretzelYT Same tbh lol It's why I never finished it as a kid- I did it all in one go and forgot to save. XnX

    • @vazazell5967
      @vazazell5967 Місяць тому +17

      You just need to wear green triforce tshirt to receive triforce like many neckbeards do

    • @SECONDQUEST
      @SECONDQUEST Місяць тому +26

      Yeah that link isn't the hero of courage, the big fish says it. Or the tree

  • @hyperfangz
    @hyperfangz Місяць тому +257

    There are carrots in OoT. You have an infinite amount when riding Epona

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 Місяць тому +40

      Just gotta get on horseback and chomp down on raw veggies for sustenance.

    • @eaglescout1984
      @eaglescout1984 Місяць тому +40

      My thoughts exactly. It'd be like Homer with the alcohol-fueled car.
      "One for you, one for me, one for you, one for me."

    • @tylerherr4288
      @tylerherr4288 Місяць тому +17

      casually gets on my horse and reaches up and pulls a carrot off the ui that no one else can see

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 Місяць тому +28

    In the child timeline, after Link gets sent back to the past by Zelda, he reveals the truth about Ganondorf preventing him from being able to take over until Twilight Princess.
    By that logic, if YOU were sucked into the game world, you would be able to do the same thing as Link. Once you know that Ganondorf is evil, you can tell everybody and prevent him from taking over.

  • @Someonehahaha
    @Someonehahaha Місяць тому +13

    Don't hang around the woods too long, or you might end up in Termina. And we all know that world has a more terrible fate.

  • @tarotcard0371
    @tarotcard0371 Місяць тому +455

    Some things I found noteworthy:
    * Unless they saw you emerge from Link's House, the Kokiri probably wouldn't care about an adult being there, people visit Kokiri all the time, that's why there's a shop. They would, however, expect you to be only visiting.
    * The Deku Tree would absolutely hear you out, but he would absolutely not allow you to stay. Without the protection of a Fairy, you'd get lost in the mist and become a Stalfos. He'd probably give you some advice on where you could go at least.
    * The cows eat hay, so we can assume that NPCs need to eat, we just never see it on screen.
    * Do not eat Deku Nuts, those are not vegetables, they explode with a blinding light when hit hard enough.
    * How to get a place? Simple: Impa's house in Kakariko is open to the public, so people are just allowed to stay there if they don't have a home anywhere else. Alternatively, if you're okay with listening to people scream about how bad being cursed sucks, you could always crash in the House of Skulltula.
    * Possibly a continuation of the Cows eating Hay thing; In order for the hypothetical to make sense, we have to assume that the world becomes real (IE NPCs become people) or else no events happen and no one but us ages. In games like this, Time moves with the protagonists footsteps, so if we treat the NPCs as NPCs during the Hypothetical, Ganon becomes a non-threat, as does the pressure he's put on the various leaders of the land, as no future events will happen unless we walk into the exact correct place.

    • @TheBreadPirate
      @TheBreadPirate Місяць тому +77

      I had many of the same thoughts!
      We aren't just entering a sterile, digital world. We are entering a fantasy world where people act like people. LET THEM EAT CAKE! (Or whatever food NPC's like)

    • @Raymond13557
      @Raymond13557 Місяць тому +30

      You could also say that you're Link's cousin from his mother's sister's cousin's side of the family. technically it's not against canon or lying at all.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 Місяць тому +54

      I mean, yeah, when Link goes to Kokiri forest as an adult, none of the Kokiri recognize him, yet they still treat him with hospitality.

    • @Tam00393
      @Tam00393 Місяць тому +14

      Unless we inherit Navi when we switch places with him, then we could stay in the forest theoretically as long as we wanted to

    • @gwendolynstata3775
      @gwendolynstata3775 Місяць тому +19

      I always thought of the Kokiri Shop as just being kids playing store and getting really intense about it, not that they were expecting other races to come through town and buy from them.

  • @Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi
    @Bryce_the_Woomy_Boi Місяць тому +249

    I love these "could you survive in" videos, it's pretty interesting.

    • @Delta5Qmp
      @Delta5Qmp Місяць тому +6

      Seconded, these are great! More please!!

  • @fr00t_salad
    @fr00t_salad Місяць тому +17

    My Ganon solution: retrieve the kokiri's emerald from the Great Deku Tree, the safest sacred stone to get, and then go into hiding.
    Assuming Ganon doesnt have some magical sense for detecting the stones, you could just hide it, and nobody would know. He never gets into the sacred realm, and the world never goes post apocalypse.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Місяць тому +12

      not very safe for a normal human to fall hundreds of feet just to break through a spider web i dont think, also the deku tree would have to trust you in the first place to give the stone to you, he didn't raise you since you were a baby like link

    • @calemr
      @calemr Місяць тому

      He'd probably engage in more mundane methods of conquest. I dunno how well you could hide from him sweeping an army of monsters across the land murdering and pillaging their way through anyone that resists.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому +8

      I've got an even easier solution: let him get the Stones, play the Song to open the door, and... be absolutely powerless to break the seal on the Sacred Realm by drawing the Master Sword, a blade evil hearts can't even touch, much less wield.

    • @RaidFiftyOne
      @RaidFiftyOne Місяць тому +1

      I would simply bury it in the most random spot in existence

  • @bumbleboosh
    @bumbleboosh Місяць тому +9

    It's important to note that when the Triforce splits, the pieces don't go toward whoever already possesses their qualities, but whoever desires each quality the most. Link being absent from the world and no longer seeking to prove his courage since he's watching UA-cam on your couch means he's disqualified now. Since you want to survive in Hyrule above all else, it's only fair that you get the Triforce of Courage.

  • @Nuclearburrit0
    @Nuclearburrit0 Місяць тому +497

    Regarding ganon, remember that there is a canon solution to this problem: Warn zelda.
    Link does this after the events of the game when he goes back in time. We know the events of the game, so we could do the same.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  Місяць тому +249

      That's a good point, I didn't consider that. I guess there's a possibility that she might think you're crazy, but if she's willing to listen to Link, then she might listen to you.
      I'd still keep the rating somewhat low, because this is GANONDORF. He could definitely figure something out before he's put in prison/executed.

    • @Nuclearburrit0
      @Nuclearburrit0 Місяць тому +69

      @PretzelYT yeah, that's what happens in twilight princess.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 Місяць тому +126

      If Ganondorf sees a REAL LIFE HUMAN BEING running around, he's absolutely going to plan around that. But being the isekai protagonist in this scenario, who's Zelda going to believe, you, or the guy she literally FEELS the ill intent radiating off of? It's really your word against his, and he is pretty decently high up the social ladder by the time you seen him through that window.

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 Місяць тому +69

      @@PretzelYTAnd it's like you said-
      See Twilight Princess, the gods have a sense of humor when it comes to letting Ganondorf get executed.

    • @Oceane1803
      @Oceane1803 Місяць тому +37

      Link has the Triforce of Courage though. That's why people knew he was the Hero of Time and believed him even though he was a kid. I don't think they would believe us though.

  • @starscourge_vega
    @starscourge_vega Місяць тому +117

    If you know the plot of the game before entering, Ganondorf becomes a non issue. When Link goes back in time at the end of the game, he just snitches on Ganon to Zelda and tells her what he's gonna do. According to lore, he's then caught and executed as seen in twilight princess. Yeah he comes back but you'd be dead by then.

    • @itsmeike
      @itsmeike Місяць тому +18

      Well, prior to being captured and 'executed,' Ganondorf takes the Gerudo and embroils Hyrule in a bloody war. Don't think you'd want to get caught up in that.

    • @Polemodrome
      @Polemodrome 17 днів тому +6

      If there is no hero of the prophecy, then there is no evil overlord of the prophecy, I believe. They are the two different faces of the same coin and princess Zelda is the slice.

    • @IrvineTheHunter
      @IrvineTheHunter 14 днів тому +1

      Zelda already was trying to snitch on Gannon, nobody believes her....

    • @proclarushtaonasat
      @proclarushtaonasat 12 днів тому +7

      @@IrvineTheHunter but after link returns from the future, zelda and link presumably have triforce markings on their hand, which would give them more credibility (i think). At least that seems to be the reason why ganondorf has the triforce of power in TP, despite being caught before he follows link into the temple of time.
      Maybe a isekai protagonist could convince the king using lore knowledge or something. Like, most hylians dont know, that hylians came from skyloft originally, or that ganondorf is the reincarnation of demise, or that zelda is a reincarnation of the goddess hylia.

  • @SinisterPixel
    @SinisterPixel Місяць тому +7

    I think with the danger factor there's a couple of things to consider:
    1) Only the hero of time is able to pull the sacred blade, and that's ultimately what causes the sacred realm to open. Without it, we have to question if even with the medallions, Ganondorf would be able to get to the sacred realm
    2) Assuming we have foreknowledge about what happens in the game, we can just do what happens at the end of the game. We can warn Zelda and the king of Hyrule of what's to come before Ganondorf comes to power and he'd be executed

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому +2

      The Master Sword cannot be wielded by an evil hand, so Ganondorf certainly could not draw it. Could he force someone else to draw it in his place? Possibly, unless the blade can sense duress and wouldn't budge.

  • @MechaLeo
    @MechaLeo Місяць тому +5

    To spin the speculative yarn of food availability in a real-time and scale Hyrule, I'm literally diving into a HUD element so bear with me.
    If you were to have a pack of all the typical adventuring equipment, bottles and junk, being entrusted with Epona in the adult timeline seems to indicate that she eats from a supply of carrots you keep on hand. This is just the symbol used for sprinting (unlike spurs in Twilight Princess), if we translate the fricken _sprint distance_ from in game time and space to real world proportions it's logical that these carrots do grant Epona the energy to gallop faster over longer periods. And if we fully hinge on this idea of carrots being a tangible resource then the amount of time to regain sprints is the amount of time it would take to forage for carrots, which seem readily available anywhere in the overworld Epona has access to (which are just travel regions with fast forwarding time).
    Combine the assumption of wild carrots growing in abundance across Hyrule with milk, eggs, and steaks, we've almost got a food pyramid to choose from. Unless, of course, we are just sitting in a kilometer long stretch of flat polygons watching the sun pass every four minutes, but that lacks fantasy.

  • @ChildofHealing
    @ChildofHealing Місяць тому +168

    Don't think you'd have to worry about the Triforce, actually. Ganondorf only got his hands on it because Link opened the Temple of Time and drew the Master Sword from its pedestal, thus giving Ganondorf access to the Sacred Realm. So unless someone else is able to find and gather the three sacred stones, get the Ocarina of Time, and learn the Song of Time, AND draw the Master Sword, Ganondorf isn't getting the Triforce. He's still a threat, sure, but not nearly on the level he is in the game.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Місяць тому +24

      If we assume time actually passes with no one doing anything he absolutely realizes his goals I think, he gets the stones by killing the great deku tree like he does in the game, starving the gorons to death and causing panic in the zoras by killing jabu jabu with his parasite, he can totally get his hands on the ocarina of time too he also almost did it in the game, and learning the song is just a matter of bribing or blackmailing the right important people
      When it comes to the master sword, if oot ganondorf is comparable in power to totk ganondorf he could totally just destroy the master sword and break the seal like that

    • @randomuser234-wb4rw
      @randomuser234-wb4rw Місяць тому +25

      @@Yamartim he doesn't have the secret stone in OoT so no crazy powers like breaking the master sword

    • @stuffz1757
      @stuffz1757 Місяць тому +26

      ​@@YamartimGanondorf breaking the Master Sword in TotK is a anomaly. It's only possible specifically because of how OP Gloom is.

    • @videogamesarecool9280
      @videogamesarecool9280 Місяць тому +11

      The fallen hero timeline exist, so we know for certain he can obtain his goals

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +4

      ​@@videogamesarecool9280Yeah, he's fighting to get the triforce because he wants that ultimate power, but in the end, he will still try to overthrow the kingdom anyway.

  • @nightfrostbreeze
    @nightfrostbreeze Місяць тому +227

    For specifically vitamin C, you could make a tea with pine needles. There may be other edible plants that we don't think of as food as well, for example in our world dandelions can be eaten.

    • @emilyrobinson6080
      @emilyrobinson6080 Місяць тому +28

      Who knows, peahat roots might be delicious roasted like artichoke hearts. Usually any plant that defends itself with big thorns (yet alone freaking out like a giant flying beyblade) have something delicious.

    • @sumthinorother9615
      @sumthinorother9615 Місяць тому +6

      ⁠@@emilyrobinson6080
      I’m not even fighting that thing when I can respawn, there’s no way you’re fighting a helicopter with medieval weaponry.

    • @WinterRaven25
      @WinterRaven25 Місяць тому +3

      Would not recommend that to any women looking to become mothers though. Pine needle tea from a lot of species of pine will terminate gestation. In a side note I hate how we have to find creative ways around controversial terms here.

    • @RipleySawzen
      @RipleySawzen Місяць тому +4

      Organ meats have more than ample amounts of vitamin C. And all non-organ meats have it as well, just not as much as fruit does. But it may not be necessary as high-meat diets do not seem to require as much of it to stave off scurvy.

    • @CaptDestro
      @CaptDestro 27 днів тому

      They have potions, maybe they also contain vitamin c?

  • @rendumguy7596
    @rendumguy7596 Місяць тому +6

    Maybe you can do what Link does in the child timeline and snitch on Ganondorf by letting the King know that he killed the Deku Tree, put a parasite into Jabu Jabu, and is starving the Gorons.
    The only problem would be getting the King's attention and willingness to hear you out. If he listens, then Ganondorf is caught, executed, and Hyrule is safe far longer than a long human lifespan.
    This would probably lead to a similar world to the Child Timeline, except the Hero of Twilight wouldn't exist, which kind of screws over the events of Twilight Princess. Also, Termina would be destroyed unfortunately.

  • @GermanPeter
    @GermanPeter Місяць тому +14

    "Traversibility" would be absolutely interesting for a game like Minecraft. Sure, Steve can jump up blocks half his height just fine, but you? I'd be tuckered out after climbing a small hill. And how would mining blocks affect your own stamina? Even creating a hole in the ground that's the size of a Minecraft block can take about 30 minutes to an hour.

  • @RoninCatholic
    @RoninCatholic Місяць тому +258

    A lot of games have an entire separate artstyle for their overworld long-distance travel map entirely to help ease the Scale Theory's potential for killing immersion.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  Місяць тому +81

      Hahaha I've been reading interviews for Final Fantasy VII's final episode in the remake trilogy, and it seems like that's troubling them. It was a lot easier to render the world in a simple scale for an airship that you're able to fly around the world it. The team says they're struggling on how to implement that in a game that doesn't have that abstracted world map.
      Super curious to see how they handle it.

    • @jonathangerrits7697
      @jonathangerrits7697 Місяць тому +1

      @@PretzelYT i am a programmer so feel free to ask what you want

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +20

      ​@@PretzelYTI feel like a game where this could get really messy is Red Dead Redemption 2. A lot of people have mentioned it - it's a very realistic world. It's literally trying to recreate real world 1899. The question is however, are you trapped literally in the actual map, or do you have access to the real life places mentioned like New York (or Tahiti 🙃).
      If we act like it's just the real world... then basically all you've done is time traveled, and you can live a somewhat decent life. Stuck in the in game map though... and eventually even the expansive world of red dead 2 is going to wear on you after years of living there.

    • @funlandbuilder
      @funlandbuilder Місяць тому

      @@PretzelYT pls do rianworld next i really want see if able survival in rian worlde

    • @stm7810
      @stm7810 Місяць тому +1

      @@WasatchWind as a trans woman it wouldn't be an easy or normal life, I'd be treated like dirt at best and that's if I find a way to pass.

  • @WasatchWind
    @WasatchWind Місяць тому +131

    I feel like in fighting Ganon, you have a massive advantage, and that is foresight. Presumably for most people who watched this video, you're an adult, or at least not 12. Thus, it'll be easier for you to have influence in the world.
    Thus here is my game plan -
    Realize I've been transported into Ocarina of Time. Ask the kokiri to let me visit the great deku tree, and explain the situation. Try my best to convince them to let me have some supplies, then set out for the rest of Hyrule.
    At this point, I'm probably dressed like a kokiri, but to some extent, I look a bit more "normal." I travel to castle town, and simply tell everyone that I'm a traveler from a far off land. At that point, I begin to work to support myself, and while I do so, build relationships in the community, and keep tabs on Ganon.
    Because I know who Ganon is and what he's doing, I can build trust until I can warn the king and other groups in Hyrule. Heck, you could go as far as gathering other concerned citizens, and running espionage in Gerudo Valley, trying to thwart their plans.
    The difficulty without Link is that the way I see it, there's a strong likelihood that you are going to get involved in a much more traditional and brutal war. Fun! But seriously, Ganondorf is going to take this world by force, it's not as easy for him, you know what he wants to do, and he knows you can somehow anticipate his choices. War I'd say, is inevitable.
    There is, like you mentioned, the prospect of being deemed the new hero of time. If you take Link's place at the start, you might get pulled into helping the great deku tree, and thus getting the kokiri emerald - not a great start to make yourself less conspicuous to the whims of fate.
    Further, if you take an active role in stopping Ganondorf, which you should, because you have knowledge others don't, that will further spotlight you as someone uniquely suited to have the triforce of courage. It would be quite dangerous, but with potions, fairies, possibly even the master sword, and your unique ability to problem solve outside the original bounds of the game, I think defeating Ganondorf is very doable, especially if you are an experienced player of the game, and know a bunch of tricks to use.

    • @Genra
      @Genra Місяць тому +22

      It's a good idea, though in the event you are the new Hero of Time you have to consider you are considerably less durable than any other inhabitant of Hyrule. Unlike Link, your body is more prone to bruises, cuts, maybe fractures, is likely less acrobatic, and has stamina issues like BOTW Link.
      This will go into wondering how do the magical items in the game affect you, like do Heart Containers make you more durable to stabs, or is it you can just like "bleed out" longer but still experience the pain of a sword stabbing you and staying there 😅. If it's the latter, you're basically just a OHKO to most enemies, not even talking Ganondorf.
      The best bet likely is to try and become the royal tactician like older Fire Emblem games, honing your intelligence on how to position troops so that you can still contribute to Ganondorf's defeat.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Місяць тому +27

      Remember we're dealing with the physical capabilities of a human, so there's a pretty decent chance you just die in the deku tree from gohma, or maybe just from falling after failing to climb massive walls of vines

    • @AzumarillConGafasBv
      @AzumarillConGafasBv Місяць тому +7

      Ganondorf can split any of us in half with a single hand dude

    • @rokka7188
      @rokka7188 Місяць тому +5

      "Ganon sir, some random blunt-eared stranger is telling you are evil."
      "Lol, just kick him out and ban him from entry. Or maybe I'll send one of my minions or magic after him."

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +3

      ​​@@OverbiteGamesI feel like it's fair to assume that a fairy or potion would heal you to some extent, as that's how they operate in world.
      We also have an advantage over Link, that we can obtain armor, and you'd probably want to spam protective magic.

  • @wareforcoin5780
    @wareforcoin5780 Місяць тому +4

    Castle Town is realistically the only place any of us would be in any actual danger. You'd have a monster in the village, but that guy lives in a hole no one goes in, so like, we're all probably good.

  • @CZPC
    @CZPC Місяць тому +5

    Step 1: Take triforce piece
    Step 2: Leave Hyrule
    Step 3: Profit?

  • @PocketDeerBoy
    @PocketDeerBoy Місяць тому +71

    you wanna forget about politics in hyrule? when you've just spent minutes talking about the king of evil?

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 Місяць тому +24

      Listen, that's not morals or politics, when he is literally THE "EVIL KING" GANONDORF, we can pretty objectively say he's not good without much debate.

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman Місяць тому +6

      @@mr.personalspace7831naming fallacy 💀

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +23

      ​@@mr.personalspace7831Just wait until you're trying to convince people he's evil, and they accuse you of being prejudiced against Gerudo 💀

    • @mr.personalspace7831
      @mr.personalspace7831 Місяць тому +7

      @@WasatchWind HE FROZE ZORA'S DOMAIN

    • @nickelakon5369
      @nickelakon5369 Місяць тому +7

      ​@mr.personalspace7831 correction, he freezes Zora's domain.
      As far as hyrule is concerned Ganondorf is a King trying to swear fealty to hyrule after losing a war. Most people have no idea he's *objectively* evil.

  • @emilyrobinson6080
    @emilyrobinson6080 Місяць тому +40

    The old man at the laboratory mentions how eyeball frog eyes are a delicacy he enjoys and how if it wasnt needed for medicine, that night’s dinner would be special because of it.
    The gorons also are in a predicament due to their food source being closed off, granted they eat rocks but I think the idea remains that NPCs do eat even if we dont see them do so.
    Theres also fish that are widely available in many bodies of water so it wouldnt strictly be red meat, and Id imagine cucco eggs and milk/other dairy products would be available since we get both eggs (to be hatched, not eaten) and milk in the game.

  • @YokoX23
    @YokoX23 Місяць тому +2

    Bro I need SO MUCH MORE of this series. You got me to subscribe in one single video, that has NEVER happened and I've had this UA-cam account long enough that Google didn't own UA-cam when I started. At least a decade.

  • @rheokalyke367
    @rheokalyke367 Місяць тому +4

    "It would be easy to find a group to fit into"
    I feel like the Gerudo are a great option to join. At least for me. They are not in immediate danger of Ganondorf (as they are working for him) and the Gerudo are only hostile to outsider men, not outsider women.
    With no Link around to stop Ganondorf, it feels like the safest bet. Even if Ganondorf fails to obtain the triforce of power, it would mean the alliance with Hyrule he makes with the king would ensure a bright future.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 16 днів тому

      Yeah but ask the wrong questions and you end up getting mind wiped and trapped in a suit of armor for seven years.

  • @BrenTenkage
    @BrenTenkage Місяць тому +157

    Should mention that in the OoT manga, link actually eats Bread mentioning it tastes better than the fruits of the forest. So Behind the scenes there would be fruits and grains (and presumably other stuff like corn) so I think you are good.

    • @songokuwukong
      @songokuwukong Місяць тому +6

      He said we are going with the game world we can see..

    • @BrenTenkage
      @BrenTenkage Місяць тому +9

      @@songokuwukong figured I'd just add that bit of knowledge, as one could see the manga and other material as a supplement. Just food for thought

    • @dionlackey798
      @dionlackey798 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@songokuwukongit's crazy to believe that a world full of green and forests don't have vegetables

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому

      Is the manga canon?

    • @BrenTenkage
      @BrenTenkage Місяць тому +1

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 no idea. But it is a good read

  • @michaelduff2382
    @michaelduff2382 Місяць тому +37

    "There are so many people in this world, it would be easy to find a little group you fit into"
    Me: Um... *looks around nervously*

  • @Sigmund_Froid
    @Sigmund_Froid 12 днів тому +2

    Regarding the point about housing and jobs...
    A) the Rupees that drop from Grass are probably meant to be money people lost, so I'd be sceptical about treating them as stable income...
    But B) I think the existence of towns kinda inherently implies employment opportunities...
    So I still think it's nothing you'd need to worry about.
    Also, I feel like just because we don't see people eating, doesn't imply they don't... So they'd likely work to keep food sustainable too

  • @Logandroid
    @Logandroid Місяць тому +1

    I really enjoy the strange yet logical rabbit hole of questions that you ponder from this series. Like on one side of the coin you're worried about nutrition, but on the other you're questioning if Ganondorf would get to the sacred realm on his own, who the triforce of courage would go to without Link around, and if that person could even succeed at defeating him.
    Idk there's just something very satisfying exploring the question of "could you survive here?" where you really consider so many different angles.

  • @fuzzydude64
    @fuzzydude64 Місяць тому +52

    I'd think the Kokiri would most likely assume that a random human showing up is probably fine because what are they gonna do- leave? Clearly they were supposed to end up here, that's why they're not a Stalfos, silly! It's the Deku Tree you'd need to worry about, but tbh, he'd probably meet you with curiosity more than anything else as long as you're honest and peaceful. Might still make you leave but if he does, you'll probably just be led out to the forest entrance and set free. At worst, they just force you out into the woods.
    As for Ganondorf, you could speak with the Deku Tree and tell him you have knowledge of events that he too is privy to (such as his curse). With that, you might have some realistic chance of warning the king of Ganondorf's betrayal. A human that entered the Kokiri village unharmed without a fairy AND came back out unharmed? That sounds pretty serious, he might actually give you consideration
    Effectively this is what Zelda does after sending Link away anyway, she just warns the king successfully in her childhood. Then you'd be set until he breaks free like a century later. Could argue it's too meta but I think simply warning others should count as a realistic and therefore viable option since we're assuming NPCs still have jobs and renewable resources and the like.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +20

      Warning others is a lot easier cause most viewers here are older than 12 I'd wager, and that is a big point in your favor. Knowing what Ganondorf is planning beforehand, even if the king doesn't listen, is going to help you a lot.
      Something like wait for Ganondorf to ride out of castle town after Zelda, and have a magical trap laid for him. Incapacitate him, and bring him to the castle as prisoner while trying to negotiate with the Gerudo for an end to hostility.
      The difficult thing I keep running into is that while you have a good chance of stopping Ganondorf from successfully getting the three stones, you opposing him, lengthening his timeline to victory, and generally making his life more difficult has a good chance of starting a real traditional war.

    • @fuzzydude64
      @fuzzydude64 Місяць тому

      @@WasatchWind dang, didnt think of that

    • @extrachandelier8845
      @extrachandelier8845 26 днів тому +2

      @@WasatchWind “Incapacitate him” dude Ganondorf is 7’2” and has magic powers, imagine if Shaq could fire energy balls out of his palms

    • @zixvirzjghamn737
      @zixvirzjghamn737 25 днів тому +1

      "The worse case is that they force you into the woods" THATS A DEATH SENTENCE! We presumably aren't given a fairy(though link isn't kokiri and he gets one so you might be given one if you get the triforce of courage), so we turn into a stalfos if we get lost in the lost woods. Though, the Kokiri probably wouldnt kill us, so we would be fine

  • @JDQuote
    @JDQuote Місяць тому +56

    Great video as always!
    Regarding the issue of money: Getting rupees from cutting grass isn't just something meta. There's a canon reason for why they keep appearing: the Minish keep replenishing them, so it would be perfectly viable to get wealthy by doing that.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +6

      My head canon for a more realistic rupee is that they're a variety of a sort of quartz. Finding them naturally, they're just rare enough to be worth something, but perhaps in more organized periods of Hyrule's history, they are actually cut and maybe engraved with a royal seal or something, to prevent the currency from inflating.

    • @Yamartim
      @Yamartim Місяць тому +12

      oh god so the reason we dont find them in grass anymore in botw and totk is because all the minish died? thats messed up

    • @folmhaigh039
      @folmhaigh039 Місяць тому +3

      @@WasatchWind they are valuable because they are literally magical, the different colors are literally the green ones magically combined into the new color

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 16 днів тому

      ​@@YamartimYou find them under rocks all the time and I feel like that's the same deal

  • @jedgrahek1426
    @jedgrahek1426 21 день тому

    Listening to you talk through these questions makes me feel like a kid again.... which is pretty damn magical. It's nice to remember when the most important questions and priorities were those you made yourself.

  • @stelscarrot
    @stelscarrot Місяць тому +1

    Combination of survival and impossible wacky situations. Really makes me sad that I can't go and try to experience and test myself in it. But the genre is my new favorite.

  • @rlira8072
    @rlira8072 Місяць тому +20

    "Hey, I come from a world where all of you are characters from a book (videogame would be to hard to explain), and Ganondorf is hiding something."
    Problem solved

    • @Supahdenning
      @Supahdenning Місяць тому

      You can encounter schizos saying this in real life already.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 Місяць тому +4

      There are only a few characters who won't think you're crazy for saying that: Caepora Gaebora (the owl), Zelda, and the Deku tree. What could they do?

    • @rlira8072
      @rlira8072 Місяць тому +1

      @@johnpett1955 My rounded ears would stick out enough to at least consider the possibility that i'm from another world

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 Місяць тому +3

      @@rlira8072 The Gerudo people have rounded ears in Ocarina of Time, so it's still pretty far-fetched imo. It's not like having rounded ears makes you undeniably from another world. Especially when we consider that there are places outside of Hyrule in the series.

    • @rlira8072
      @rlira8072 Місяць тому +4

      @@johnpett1955 We ventured out of Hyrule in The Legend of Zelda 2 and they have pointy ears. And about the Gerudo, a male Gerudo is born every 100 and the current one is Ganon, so if you're not ginger, that should rule you out.

  • @thelonestar5327
    @thelonestar5327 Місяць тому +40

    One thing about Ganondorf is you also need the Ocarina of Time and to play the Song of Time to get to the Triforce. If Zelda/The Royal Family keeps the Ocarina of Time safe, or even destroy it out of desperation, Ganondorf's plans are screwed.

    • @rheokalyke367
      @rheokalyke367 Місяць тому

      That and at least for 50% of the population (like me), you could just join the Gerudo and then be set into safety.
      Ganondorf wins? The group you joined gets to have a pretty good time. Ganondorf never gets the triforce? Hey, he made an alliance with the king of Hyrule so things are going to look pretty good too!

    • @thelonestar5327
      @thelonestar5327 Місяць тому

      @@rheokalyke367 I don't think Gerudo let outsiders join, woman or not. Link was just a formality, even. Besides, that also means you'd live in the desert, which is way worse off.

    • @MultiCool55
      @MultiCool55 Місяць тому

      Considering what happened to Lorule when their Triforce was destroyed, getting rid of the Triforce would likely lead to just as many issues.

    • @thelonestar5327
      @thelonestar5327 Місяць тому

      @@MultiCool55 I meant destroying the Ocarina of Time, not the Triforce.

    • @coquecoke2976
      @coquecoke2976 26 днів тому

      Ganon could just enter the temple by brute forcing to it

  • @osjuchava
    @osjuchava Місяць тому

    Great series man! I love seeing this sort of creative approach to gaming videos. Keep them coming 🤩

  • @XxDustin5777xX
    @XxDustin5777xX 19 днів тому

    First time viewer, anytime I see OSRS reference, example, or transition. I’m always sold lol great video

  • @MotherGapshin12
    @MotherGapshin12 Місяць тому +62

    I wonder what the Hyrulians will think of the elongated and tall human that suddenly appeared?

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +35

      Well the Hylians look fairly human, and in other parts of the Zelda universe, the humans have rounded ears. You could easily get away with saying you're from Labrynna or something.
      This of course begs the rules of this experiment, of if upon entering Ocarina of Time, a more real expanded universe comes into existence.

    • @Sauraen
      @Sauraen Місяць тому +16

      You'd be the only one made of more than 200 triangles!

    • @zachtwilightwindwaker596
      @zachtwilightwindwaker596 Місяць тому +5

      Humans are a thing in Hyrule. The Ordonians are normal humans. They probably live mostly outside of Hyrule.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +9

      @@Sauraen I feel like given the scenario of "can you survive" it implies that the world becomes more real. People are flesh and blood, they eat things - if you need to eat so should they.
      I feel like it should operate this way unless you're in a game that makes big departures from reality.

  • @gamercore5216
    @gamercore5216 Місяць тому +20

    I do want to add in the child timeline where gannon doesn't get the triforce he just invades with his army the usual way

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому +2

      Right. He may take over Hyrule, but he doesn't have godlike power.

  • @yannickstevens4021
    @yannickstevens4021 Місяць тому

    Was very excited to see a new one of these btw, love this entire concept

  • @Kagarine54
    @Kagarine54 Місяць тому

    I absolutely love these kinds of videos since Super Mario 64! Its also a neat little way to discover games I've never trully experienced before ( like this one!! ), it almost feels like a very cozy lofi Game Theory video :) Keep it up and take your time, you're having one great idea friend

  • @embargovenom9948
    @embargovenom9948 Місяць тому +18

    There are definitely vegetables in Hyrule. Even beyond the magic beans and Deku nuts, when you ride on a horse you can feed it carrots, so those are definitely available.

  • @Ian_Comics
    @Ian_Comics Місяць тому +13

    Ganondorf would need the ocarina to open the door too.

  • @UsuarioRandom-tf5ie
    @UsuarioRandom-tf5ie Місяць тому

    I love this kind of videos❤ hope you upload more, i love the deep research you do to do these🎉

  • @isaiahmcclure8894
    @isaiahmcclure8894 15 днів тому

    This is an awesome, unique topic. I'd love to see more of these Could you survive videos

  • @ChrisSmith-bb1dq
    @ChrisSmith-bb1dq Місяць тому +46

    Solution for low Safety: Just work for Ganondorf
    He's evil in the sense that he wants to rule the world, but if you go off of wind waker Lore, he just wants a better life for his people.
    Even taking that motivation out of the equation, the world doesn't actually get THAT much worse with Ganondorf in charge. Well it gets worse for the Kokiri, Zora, and Gorons. But for Hylians it doesn't change that much. Everyone moves from Castle Town to Kakriko, which would be at most a day of travel.
    AND! When ganondorf takes over, all the Skeletons in Hyrule Field disappear.
    The biggest worry about be it turning into Wind Waker's flooded world due to no Hero of Courage.

    • @blackbloom8552
      @blackbloom8552 Місяць тому +27

      Dont confuse his nostagia and regrets in wind waker with actual care of his people. He went against their values by attacking women and children with his bands of thieves, mind controlled those who opposed him and left the gerudo to rot in the desert once he took over Hyrule and didn't need them anymore.

    • @jacobjamaal8369
      @jacobjamaal8369 Місяць тому +13

      Kakariko also gets "destroyed" by Bongo Bongo as a result of Ganondorf's actions. If we're talking about a scenario where the door of time was still opened, that's one of the least safe places to be (besides maybe Goron City)

    • @theoaremevano3227
      @theoaremevano3227 Місяць тому +14

      Ganondorf: "Evans! Where's that package delivery?"
      "Um, I don't know, sir."
      Ganondorf: "You know what this means, right?"
      "The gap between dimensions again, sir? Maybe if you'd stop sending people there, we wouldn't be having this probl---"

    • @TheShinjiakamoto
      @TheShinjiakamoto Місяць тому +4

      Counterpoint: WW Ganondorf is A LOT more mature than OoT Ganondorf. He lost, he learns from his loss, and he's had THOUSANDS of years of being sealed to contemplate his defeat orchestrated by the goddesses, and his motivations. And having been sealed a second time between OoT and WW.
      OoT Ganondorf hasn't any of that. He's a king riding high on power and conquest.
      That's the same reason why TP Ganondorf isn't as wise as WW Ganondorf. He NEVER lost to Link, He never faced real defeat, therefore he can't learn from it, and instead of thousands of years contemplating his loss and motivations, he instead has thousands of years of rage. He wasn't beaten by a hero sent by the goddesses, he was beaten by a king who didn't fall for his false allegiance. He wasn't sealed by the sages awakened by the goddesses, he was executed by the old sages, and awakened to power, resulting in him being sealed in the twilight realm.
      That's why TP Ganondorf makes the exact same mistakes as OoT Ganondorf. He's learned nothing, and is the same man from OoT MO wise.

    • @yourmum69_420
      @yourmum69_420 Місяць тому

      he wanted better for himself, not for his people

  • @Raphe9000
    @Raphe9000 Місяць тому +16

    I love how cozy these videos are. Being able to explore these games' worlds in a new light just fills me with nostalgia. I'd love to see stuff like this done with more Zelda games, especially with like Twilight Princess.

  • @dabfellow
    @dabfellow Місяць тому +1

    love this series im calling it now this is a hella underrated youtube channel keep this up youll blow up for sure

  • @sajking7269
    @sajking7269 Місяць тому

    This series is FANTASTIC I can’t wait for the next one

  • @masterzombie161
    @masterzombie161 Місяць тому +27

    Gannon: I was told a hero would come to stop me, is that you?
    Me: I guess…
    Gannon: do you have like a sword or magic to use?
    Me: I have a construction license.
    Gannon:…..can you at least play an ocarina?
    Me: what the hells an ocarina?
    Gannon: ok I’m going home, my disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined. (Rides away)
    Me:…what a jerk.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому +5

      My man! 🤝
      As someone who works in home renovation, my first thought this video was "Enh, I'll just go get hired by the Kakariko guy. He clearly could use another hand."

    • @masterzombie161
      @masterzombie161 Місяць тому +2

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 yea construction is hard but it comes with his own rewards by being able to make things with your own hands.
      Gannon: hey umm sorry for being rude I was just disappointed is all.
      “Yea I see from your perspective being the king of evil is all.”
      Gannon: yea so I guess I can’t rule now…..meaning I might need a job.
      “Oh umm ok do you have a construction license?”
      Gannon: No
      “Have you ever worked in construction before?”
      Gannon: No, but I do have magic.
      “Do you have a criminal record?”
      Gannon:…….Noooo
      “Yea I don’t think we can hire you buddy, maybe you can find employment at Lon Lon ranch.”
      Gannon:………ok…(rides away)……jerk.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 16 днів тому +1

      Love that he's too disappointed to even kill you. He figures leaving you alive is the worst punishment. He can't possibly do any worse to you.

  • @FinalFrantasy
    @FinalFrantasy Місяць тому +29

    I'm definitely gonna try out some bottled fish lol. I hope Cuccoo lay eggs as often as real chickens as well.

    • @aienma6660
      @aienma6660 Місяць тому +2

      Why settle with bottle fish, the fishing pond implies there are some 20lb fish in the water, just not seen in the other parts of the game for game reasons.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@aienma6660 A pound of fish (or less) is a hearty meal, in my experience. If we assume a conservative 15 pounds of that 20 pound fish is edible, that's 15 meals, or 5 days. Basically a week. 👌

    • @aienma6660
      @aienma6660 Місяць тому +1

      @@benjaminoechsli1941 And it wouldnt be that hard to catch... I mean, young link can pull in those beasts of fishes, so a full grown man/woman can do the same.

  • @nBp4tB12
    @nBp4tB12 Місяць тому

    It's a good video, and even more good that I discovered your channel!

  • @randomchannel1184
    @randomchannel1184 Місяць тому +4

    This video in a nutshell:
    My day be so fine, then boom, Ganondorf exists.

  • @seanpazdera6407
    @seanpazdera6407 Місяць тому +32

    The answer to who gets the Triforce of Courage is actually solved in Cadence of Hyrule.
    Link still would. And he'd be taken back to Hyrule by it.
    The Triforce was needed while Ganon was still a child, so Link got the Triforce of Courage, Zelda got the Triforce of Wisdom... and Cadence from Crypt of the NecroDancer got the Triforce of Power, and she was pulled into the Legend of Zelda world to help the other 2.

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 Місяць тому +7

      Or it could be given to Link (the goron)

    • @lelandholmquist2467
      @lelandholmquist2467 27 днів тому +1

      I love the idea that link just reappears in the world with you and you have to explain that you’re kinda stuck there.

    • @UncreativePF
      @UncreativePF 17 днів тому

      Huh, that's super interesting? Never played Cadence of Hyrule.
      Kinda makes me think each part of the triforce has their own special "contengency" in place for if it's displaced from the world. In WW they have to make a completely new hero due to a lack of the spirit of the hero, and usually Ganon doesn't wait around for that to come in many games. Yet in Cadence of Hyrule they straight up go- "yeah, uh here's your temporary teiforce of power for this threat💀".
      The only irreversible one would probably be if Zelda's bloodline were to end, since from what I recall the triforce of wisdom is tied particularly to that.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 16 днів тому

      ​@@UncreativePFAt this point most of Hyrule should be related to her unless the royal family is INCREDIBLY inbred.

  • @IchorX
    @IchorX Місяць тому +16

    This is a top tier series, I can *definitely* see this continue to get bigger as you continue to get better at making it.

  • @paulo547
    @paulo547 Місяць тому

    This concept is absolutely amazing. Keep it up

  • @dragondiana8
    @dragondiana8 Місяць тому +1

    Interesting Video! Honestly I really would ask if I could stay in the Kokiri forest/village and would try to socialize to the other kokiri and would everything learn from them (also how to find a way through the forest, and with an ocarina or just sining, I could maybe find a way to play with the horror kids also, even as an adult - 'cause maybe they would stop attack you when u play/sining something. And since everybody of us would know Saria's Song, that wouldn't be a problem).
    The only thing I think u forgot to mention about the food is: Milk. You will get so much milk from the cows/lon-lon-plp everytime. And when there's milk, there should also be a way to make cheese, quark and other things with it. And maybe the chickens also give eggs, so another protein giver. And with all that, maybe there is a way to bake something too! So there are more options to food than just meat everytime.

  • @Jasonwolf1495
    @Jasonwolf1495 Місяць тому +35

    Carrots are implied to exist by Epona's dash command, so ya got one vegitable technically.
    As for meat only diets the Inuit people across the arctic have survived on a meat only diet for a very long time, but IDK if the vitamins available in seals, bears, and whales are available in just cows and chickens.

    • @jacobjamaal8369
      @jacobjamaal8369 Місяць тому +1

      I think adding bottled fish and bugs into the mix would get you there. In addition to the Deku seeds/nuts and potential other edible plants/fungi. We know mushrooms exist too (odd mushroom) and you'd also have plenty of Lon Lon milk to drink

    • @Lonewolf3515
      @Lonewolf3515 Місяць тому +1

      Don't forget about the magic bean guy eating those beans lol. On top of that, the scientist at the Lake Hylia laboratory mentions something about wanting to eat eyeball frogs lmao.

  • @healthyminds9279
    @healthyminds9279 Місяць тому +3

    Great job! I love how you based everything on a clean foundation of your game world's rules, even addressing Scale Theory. A lot of people would have glossed over that stuff and jumped back & forth between different world rules/interpretations etc.

  • @MeloettaMarmalade
    @MeloettaMarmalade Місяць тому

    This is such a great series. I can't wait for the next episode!

  • @dragona.wizard7376
    @dragona.wizard7376 Місяць тому

    Im loving this series and how you rationalize being a human in a game world. Its perfect 👌

  • @Rhinelander
    @Rhinelander Місяць тому +6

    This is an incredible concept for a series and I absolutely love it. Hope to see many more episodes!

  • @AllWalkerB
    @AllWalkerB Місяць тому +4

    I'm enjoying this series - and I like how you spelled out the assumptions so clearly. The only criticism is that tallying up all the points at the end doesn't tell you much - 3s across the board average to the same as all 1s and 5s, but those are very different prospects.

    • @calemr
      @calemr Місяць тому

      You could have a Perfectly safe, enjoyable world, with 0 potable water, and so get a fantastically high rating for somewhere you'd last less than a week.

  • @Steve-Fallon
    @Steve-Fallon Місяць тому

    This is a great series and I'm looking forward to it continuing!

  • @MACMAN2003
    @MACMAN2003 Місяць тому +1

    something to mention about the food availability and the cows, cows provide milk, which has nutrients in it that meat won't give you.

  • @jamst5913
    @jamst5913 Місяць тому +4

    New favorite series! I've put a lot of thoughts in this myself over the years and many games. Can't wait for the next one

  • @Veloci170702
    @Veloci170702 Місяць тому +4

    0:52 thank you for putting a smile on my face, i needed that

  • @d1o2c3t4o5r
    @d1o2c3t4o5r Місяць тому

    This is exactly the question I asked myself after playing Majora's Mask. I thought about that grotto with the magic bean seller, and others, and wondered about the logistics of getting supplies and surviving.

  • @TheTolnoc
    @TheTolnoc Місяць тому +1

    I assume the water flows to Lake Hylia, gets turned into rain, and gets delivered back up to Zora's Fountain. When it gets frozen, you just get tasty ice water!

  • @Yoseqlo1
    @Yoseqlo1 Місяць тому +6

    Great episode! Certainly living in Hyrelu would be pretty doable. I was gonna ask for Majora's Mask when I was reminded about the three day ending catastrophe, which most certainly eliminates any persona that doesn't have a magical ocarina and know the song of time.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +5

      I think that one of the better Zeldas to live in is Wind Waker. Civilization isn't in an amazing place, but hey, you're on a bunch of tropical islands. Ganondorf also is a lot more low key in this game, so you could perhaps ignore him.
      If you wanted to, you could even go so far as to lead the canonical expedition to New Hyrule, and leading the founding of a new nation. Hard to find many long term projects in a game that would be as fulfilling as that.
      I think the hardest thing though with Wind Waker would be the sudden disappearance of Link. Suddenly he's gone, everyone is sad, and then his sister is kidnapped. Pretty crappy situation.
      I prefer the Isekai premise then of you just dropping in, and nothing else has changed.

    • @todorstojanov3100
      @todorstojanov3100 Місяць тому +2

      That being said, if you were given the ocarina but none of the other items/abilities, it would be a very interesting case. In terms of resources and safety, it's pretty similar to OoT, but what would be the psychological effect of experiencing the same three days over and over again for the rest of your life? Building relationships with people becomes impossible, since they forget about you at the start of each cycle

    • @Vaquix000
      @Vaquix000 Місяць тому

      Not really if there's no Link to stop Ganondorf. Ganondorf isn't just going to leave Kakariko Village the way it is.

  • @saulitix
    @saulitix Місяць тому +22

    The virgin "too much water" vs the chad "a lot of water, 5/5"

    • @kenhollis6197
      @kenhollis6197 Місяць тому

      Fuck memes.

    • @Polemodrome
      @Polemodrome 17 днів тому

      IGN is feeling this one to the core of their bones lol

  • @Mosswurk2
    @Mosswurk2 Місяць тому

    This is a very cool series :) Great video!

  • @vegamissyl2469
    @vegamissyl2469 Місяць тому

    I love this concept. I can't wait to see more!

  • @nathansmiddy732
    @nathansmiddy732 Місяць тому +6

    It's a tough balancing act with the idea of resources. Concessions have ro be made one way or another and I feel like you've settled on something that makes sense, but there are plenty of other valid ways to examine it.
    For example, in this video, we've assumed that
    1: NPCs wouldn't need food, and
    2: NPC creatures such as cows, horses, and chickens would have nutritional value
    I'm okay with the conclusions drawn from that, but looking at this scenario from another perspective involves incongruities. Do the horses, cows, chickens, etc need to eat? If not, what are they made of that makes them provide nutritional value? If we flipped this and claimed that all NPCs would need to eat as soon as we arrived, would our arrival bring turmoil to the world? If correlation was discovered between this dynamic change and our presence, would we be hated?
    If we go back to us being the only being that needs to eat, and we examine the farm animals again, we also have to contend with the fact that the game doesn't normally have any need to re-spawn them (aside from cuccos--more on that next), because they're never supposed to be defeated. Would the game make another script call to spawn all the horses and cows back in when you return after slaughtering any of them? Cuccos can never be defeated either. They're invincible, and trying to eat them puts your life in serious jeopardy. You might even be able to temporarily neutralize Ganon with them if you can safely trick him into attacking one.
    All of this is just food for thought though. You obviously can't even begin to consider the logistics of living in a game world unless the game's assets and environments are translated into realistic analogues to some degree, but going for complete realism makes most of these worlds fall apart. If we go for no concessions, we have a world so incongruent from our own that our very existence there is quite impossible. If we go for "complete" realism, then all of the water would eventually find itself over the side of the limited map, and we'd have no guarantee a flat, segmented world could even maintain an atmosphere. I think you've drawn a decent line on where to balance everything.

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  Місяць тому +6

      Yeah I've definitely thought about this. At the end of the day, I kinda just don't think about it too hard hahaha. I could spend a couple minutes talking about the food chain and how everything is supplied, but I don't think anyone wants to hear that. It's like answering a kid's question, and then they say "Why?", so you answer that and they ask "Why?" again. You could go down a never ending spiral like that. I just gotta call it at some point and make some core assumptions.

    • @WasatchWind
      @WasatchWind Місяць тому +1

      ​@@PretzelYTI feel like the best strategy for the future is considering what exists in canon. Carrots appear on Epona's stamina meter, so I think it's reasonable that you could obtain carrots.
      I perhaps favor a too liberal interpretation of this however, as I'd say you can visit other kingdoms like Labrynna, because they exist in the canon.

  • @jebus4261
    @jebus4261 Місяць тому +7

    Glad to see more of this series 😁

  • @itsmeike
    @itsmeike Місяць тому +1

    Don't forget that Ganondorf also needs the Ocarina of Time, and the Song of Time, to open the door; even if he gets all 3 stones, that's not enough. That was why, after returning to his time, child Link warned Zelda of Ganon's plan, took the Ocarina with him, and left Hyrule.
    HOWEVER, we know that in the timeline where Link never opens the door, Ganondorf and the Gerudo end up going to war with the Kingdom of Hyrule. So the world wouldn't face a borderline apocalyptic event, and we do know that Hyrule ended up winning the war. But you do also risk getting caught in a war if you're a citizen of Hyrule, and odds are you'd probably die--the Gerudo are powerful warriors.
    Therefore, if you try to live with the boundaries of Hyrule Kingdom, death would be on the horizon. Hiding in Kokiri Forest would probably be your best shot at survival.

  • @perfectpREdAtori
    @perfectpREdAtori Місяць тому

    Man i think we've all wondered how/if we could survive in games worlds in literal sense. Thank you for bringing in this series!

  • @TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd
    @TheRealPOTUSDavidByrd Місяць тому +3

    48 minutes ago is CRAZY
    (love these videos, Pretzel

  • @agnuswulf
    @agnuswulf Місяць тому +4

    Can't wait for the Shadow of The Colosssus episode!

  • @Aquanarius
    @Aquanarius Місяць тому

    Thank you for doing this video. Ocarina of time is my favorite video game and I like these kinds of videos.

  • @liamwatchesyt1236
    @liamwatchesyt1236 Місяць тому

    This series is very cool! Feels kinda nostalgic? Like something from when youtubers made stuff because they wanted to, not for money

  • @andyghkfilm2287
    @andyghkfilm2287 Місяць тому +6

    6:02 “I can’t think of any vegetables in the game”
    Deku Nuts! Slingshot Seeds! Magic Beans! We even KNOW Magic Beans are edible, because the merchant is EATING them!
    edit: bomb flowers! lol. And I always took the stall that everyone's crowded around in Castle Town to be a produce stall, IIRC there's SOMETHING that implies that about it, like an NPC line or something

    • @connorfarnham7059
      @connorfarnham7059 Місяць тому

      dude’s getting high off his own supply…. i don’t trust those to be eaten!

    • @andyghkfilm2287
      @andyghkfilm2287 Місяць тому +1

      @@connorfarnham7059 Maybe they're psychotropic, and that's part of the "magic"

    • @Sauraen
      @Sauraen Місяць тому

      Nah, unlike the mushrooms which are definitely drugs, the beans are probably just normal beans when eaten. The "magic" is the fact that the adult bean plant flies around.

  • @swgclips03
    @swgclips03 Місяць тому +27

    Here before the series takes off, and before you reach 50k.

  • @Vrikrar
    @Vrikrar Місяць тому +1

    Something else worth mentioning is that there are a lot of giant awful monsters that Link normally takes care of, but what happens if he's gone?
    What does Ghoma, and more importantly, her giant clutch of eggs and offspring do after the deku tree dies?
    What does King Dodongo do after the gorons all starve? Does he stay in the mountain or cause havoc in kakariko?
    Does the water situation change when Jabu Jabu turns into Jabu Jabus giant parasite riddled corpse?
    And that's just the first three bosses.

  • @chrisp1601
    @chrisp1601 Місяць тому

    Nice video! Great concept!

  • @renejosu
    @renejosu Місяць тому +5

    Right at the start you would turn into a stalfos

    • @raik1766
      @raik1766 Місяць тому +8

      nop, you're not in the lost woods

    • @johnpett1955
      @johnpett1955 Місяць тому +4

      The Kokiri forest is safe from that curse, I believe. That is why Link wasn't turned into a skull kid/Stalfos because Link's a hylian and went up to this point without being turned into a skull kid/stalfos even without a fairy. I think it only comes into effect in the lost woods.

    • @emilyrobinson6080
      @emilyrobinson6080 Місяць тому +2

      @@johnpett1955 even then, I think the curse is sort of like the zombies in the walking dead: you die and then reanimate. it wont happen if you just go into the woods, but people without fairy guides are doomed to get lost and presumably eventually die. And thats where I think they would reanimate as a stalfos. Grog seemed pretty near death when we find him, he might have gone there to die, and between the time it takes to take the mushroom back to Kakariko, and bring the medicine his granny makes back to him (who knows, it might have been an antidote to some poison he took or some super strength antidepressant to try to snap him out of it) he dies, reanimates, and shuffles off to go do stalfos things.

    • @mr.j3rs3y
      @mr.j3rs3y Місяць тому

      @itssnowcone That makes me wonder what the Skull kids would be then. They look like they are made of wood iirc, so they could be related to Deku scrubs.

  • @blargghkip
    @blargghkip Місяць тому +7

    1:10 "no abusing glitches"
    So you're telling me I can't spend 20 minutes fiddling around with a boomerang and a bottle to turn Ganondorf into a fish 😢

    • @Sauraen
      @Sauraen Місяць тому +3

      Or 9 minutes carrying invisible rocks through loading screens to get ACE... Hmm, if you brought TASBot with you into the world, how would you plug him into the controller ports?

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Місяць тому

      That's when you get Kid Link to play the game and do it. 🧠

  • @Maxjk0
    @Maxjk0 Місяць тому

    Great start to the seried overall. I think a rating for Entertainment to show just how much you could thrive would be fun to consider. Traversibility definitely needs to stay, "movement" is always a very important verb in many games, even ones that arent platformers.
    Other than that, great job so far! Cant wait to see us get something crazy and difficult to survive in
    While there are a lot that would obviously be hell, a fun one might be Shadow Of The Colossus. it'd be fun because I think its a bit deceptive. Theres not a lot of enemies youd have to worry about, but food is definitely pretty sparse, and traversal would take a ton of energy

    • @PretzelYT
      @PretzelYT  Місяць тому +1

      Funnily enough, I already decided to include entertainment and keep traversability for the next episode. Once I started thinking about it, I realized entertainment mattered a LOT. You want to enjoy life in these worlds, not just make it day-to-day.

  • @mr.burn-out6553
    @mr.burn-out6553 Місяць тому +1

    Apparently good ol' potions are made of fruits and liquor (most likely wine), so Link seems to have alcohol immunity, but that shows that there are at least fruits.
    Also I saw this bread, basically:
    Hum Saria's song (something that people who are friends of Saria should know)
    At least be able to draw to explain the situation to Saria and the great Deku tree
    Get the fairy ocarina which is enough to use magical music
    Learn to play Saria's song
    Get Kokiri's sword (or dagger at your adult age along with deku nuts and sticks)
    Do Anju's job and get a bottle
    Get a fairy
    Congrats, you have unlocked life H4XX number 1
    Get an audience with Zelda (or just find a way to stealthily modify the wooden planks to enter the castle, at least until you reach Zelda)
    Hum Zelda's lullaby
    Explain your plea with drawings
    Get taught Zelda's lullaby (Ask Zelda to find a way to teach you how to use the light arrow along with Impa and herself)
    Use Saria's song to make Darunia happy
    Get the Goron's bracalet
    Become as strong as a Goron
    Open Dodongo's cavern
    Get the bomb bag
    Learn magic (Get Zelda and Impa to use magic as well)
    Learn Nayru's love
    Congrats, you got life HAXX number 2
    Considering that you can get heart containers to increase your health you could try to follow the story
    (Specially because the Ocarina of Time can make you a time-lord, if you're worried about the whole space-displacement a.k.a. the planet's rotation from the time-jumps, you can just cash favors on the sacred realm)
    By the way if you managed to finish reading this, congrats, also remember that the humble bottle can reflect Ganondorf's magic tennis ball, Link could've theoretically wielded a bottle on each hand and just bullied Ganon into submission.