Good group ride advice, "act like you are by yourself." Kinda like the gym, check your ego at the door. Don't try and lift too heavy to impress others and maybe get hurt.
Been group riding with my local club for a year or so. Finally could not take it any more and don't ride with them anymore. Mixed bag of skills. Poorly organized.
13:00 One thing my dad always said,Never drive/ride to your limit, if your below your limit and something happens you have a good chance of getting out of it, at your limit and something happens you've got nothing in reserve.
I left a note on a sportbike at the walmart that is just up the road from my house. His license plate was "under 21". Told him(I assume) to look up MotoJitsu on youtube and that there is a website. Left my cell and told him if he wanted to practice together sometime to let me know. I kinda wish I had business cards to leave on bikes and give to people.
man, you are awesome! i dig your philosophy. my advanced rider course was all about body position, trail braking and outside inside outside line selection. even during the course i felt these seemed more like track techniques. since putting that training to the streets ive noticed those techniques do indeed work better the faster you are going, which introduces its own problems. now i really only use trail breaking on blind corners, body position feels more important offroad and from now on i will use a outside center outside cornering line! thank you sir! if i ever win the lotto, im coming down for a training session for sure!
Why bother listening to anybody else when I can just listen to you. It's got to be awesome to ride in the back with someone with your experience. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
Your advice: Outside - Middle - Outside saved me from a serious accident last week. There was a pickup truck coming from the opposite side which crossed the double line and into around 20% of my side... Thank you.
@@1000sofusernames as far as i’ve heard, in some states you could ride a hayabusa with a learner’s permit. I never drove or rode in the states so i cannot confirm but it was a pretty credible source.
I just got full riding gear, my first bike, took the MSF, and your book "MotoJitsu Master Riding Program" on Kindle. Thanks for the content in all forms!
This is a very good channel where an experienced rider shares the tips so logically without being unnecessary verbose or show off! Excellent!!! Love, from Bangladesh!
I always like your sensible approach to riding Fast Eddie. Act like you're by yourself - is something I really take on board. I've ridden with groups of old farts like me who think that they're 18 again. They're actually over 60 or 70, screaming along on road rockets and often breaking the speed limit by 40 or more Kph !! Ay yai yai....They're setting themselves up for a sudden ending. Old guys don't bounce back all that well! Thanks again for your great videos and dedication to realistic and fun riding.
Totally agree, especially about the body position. When I was more comfortable on my bike and was able to be smoother and faster always respecting the 70% pace/skill ratio but then got obsessed about the lower body position and realized; 1. It wasn't necessary for that speed at all as I don't even want to be closer to the max roll angle the tire can take specially on the road 2. I was losing too much energy and couldn't really focus on more important things cause I was just worried about hanging off and 3. I was uncomfortable so I couldn't operate the bike properly (brake, accelerate, change gear). Thanks for the videos, great advices!
"Ride your own ride." I say this all the time to new riders. Good to hear from you. Great advice and informative video. I need to work on my trail braking and staying o m o instead of cutting to the inside through blind corners.
Yes, ride your own ride...but that's turned into a catch phrase where it looses it's meaning. So that's why I say, you're now by yourself...I don't care who's in front or behind you, what the pace they're going, you do you...you make your own choices and you're responsible for your own safety...has more meaning and impact. Practice!
@@MotoJitsu very true! I always say, you are gonna have to pay the consequences of your actions, not the guy in front of you, or the guy behind you (unless you crash into them, of course) so if you insist on riding at their pace, but dont have the skills to do so, you're the one who's gonna get hurt (or worse) when you crash, not them. You're the one who'll have to pay to fix your bike and equipment, not them. But I definitely like the way you put it. It's a very important lesson to learn and put into practice, especially on the street, and in a group, where the group mentality has such an effect on riders.
I hope everyone watches this video. If they are serious about their riding you made it perfectly clear to ride within your ability. As said by bike review vlogger ... title of his site says ride a you have NothingToProve. I was fixed viewing throughout this video. Refreshed and learned.
Superb video for anyone who is not knowing how to get to the corners, vision, throttle n braking it's all part of snooty riding. Your explanation is like tutorial really good man.
Eddie, I like your very straight forward approach to instruction. I have been off a bike for 7 years and just got back on board at 75 years old it is important to do a refresher course. I am off to such a course next weekend. Looking forward to many more years of riding the roads.
All the advocates of trail braking give the impression in EVERY corner it should be used. I don’t road race but like to get a fast corner by being smooth, and accomplish this by following a lot of your invaluable riding advice. Once setup for entering a corner I feel trail braking mostly disrupts my flow and I end up tooooo slow and need to adjust my lean and cornering track to compensate. Thanks for clarifying trail braking is an option.
Puts the whole bike media portrayal of a slick street rider leaning as if on a race track or power sliding out a corner 'BS' into perspective. Riding like a god would be awesome but imitating these professionals trying to sell bikes to ordinary people just leads to pain. Respect.
Just wanted to add that today I rode out to Calville Bay in Lake Mead National Park. The bay entry is 4 miles of downhill twisters at 8% grade. Most corners are blind. I usually ride 6 in/6 out and then return home. About 70 miles round trip. Today on my 6th trip in I came around a blind corner at around 60 mph and 100 feet in front of me were a minimum of 30 big horn sheep crossing the pass. Thanks to the skills Greg speaks about and the practice involved, which I can personally attest to, my reaction was, “I wish I had GoPro so I could show my kids!” Without the hours of practice and constant skill prep, this would have been a very bad day. Practice. Practice. Practice.
you are on your way to succes! you have put alot of info out there that you don't find too often and the way you teach is super simple and logical, thank you for that!
Sir just subscribed to you channel. I'm about to purchase my first road bike. This is a masterclass in riding technique. I plan to get a small displacement, upright position bike and full gear. I worked for 7 years in a level one trauma center and I know where stupidity gets you. Thank you for the fantastic advice.
Really interesting point about body position for Harleys with low ground clearance. I always thought of body position as something more important for lighter bikes where the shift in weight makes more of a difference.
Hi Fast Eddie, I would just like to thank you for all your amazing advice and skill training videos 👍🏻 I am a totally novice bike rider from England who just passed my Mod 1 easily purely because of your amazing advice. I feel very comfortable and confident on the my riding instructors Honda CB 600f ( Hornet I believe ? ) purely because I now understand why the bike behaves as it does and what to do but more importantly what not to do 🙈. Booked in for my Mod 2 in a few weeks and can't wait 😊 Thank you so much for instilling confidence in me that's allowed me to ride safely and smoothly. Kind regards Paul
I find moving my body position using the three things you told us about getting the knee down, helps me keep the bike more upright and helps me go through the corners faster with more confidence...
@3:16 You definitely have to be careful when on a blind type corner or with oncoming traffic because not only mirrors but vehicles have this tendency to drift ever so slightly over the line. I find the average a vehicle drifts over before they notice is easily a full tire width over the line so I normally try not to cut in too close just incase. middle is a safe bet when you can'y know for sure what is coming
1. On one of your earlier videos, you said BODY, HEAD, BIKE. So why did body position become the least important in the 16 tips? 2. I too don't keep my finger on the front brake lever all the time. Happy to see you didn't either. But is it a good practice to keep one finger on the front brake at all times (useful during emergencies according to those who do)? Great video, as always.
Your head should be moving all the time anyway, for vision. The important thing is to set your body up for the corner before the 'bike. Of course, you don't necessarily _have_ to shift body position at all (as covered in this video).
@@Grim_Beard Your eyes need to be moving the most. You don't have to set your body before the corner either...I have another video about body timing vs body position coming out next month.
@@MotoJitsuDefinitely agreed about the eyes. I'll be interested in your timing video when it comes out. My body-bike movement (if I shift my body at all) is usually as one smooth sequence during what you'd call the 'press' part of slow-look-press-roll. However, maybe I should separate them out more. It'll be useful to see your thoughts.
Slow look press roll is stupid. It makes no practical sense and I don't do that at all and I don't recommend anyone to. It's outdated & not recommended.
Re the part about body position: I'd like to add, one of the best things I've learned is to "grab the tank with your knees". Keeping the knees tight against the tank helps you to stay in control, especially in slow manoeuvres (and in curves at "normal" speed). Knee-downs can be fun, of course, but you don't really need them outside the race track.
Thanks for another awesome video FE. Trail braking still doesnt come naturally to me yet and every video of you demonstrating this helps a ton. Much love from India.
Hi Buds!! Soooooo close to that 100k!! Your body of work is fricking excellent!! I am always impressed by not only your quality, but your creativity in making these vids!!
Love your videos. I’ve been riding just over 10 years but improved 10 fold after doing your drills and watching the videos. The reading list has been great esp. Lee Parks. My question (not answered in any books or videos). When you are riding the curves in the video (especially with trail breaking), what speed are you going, what RPMs and what gear. I struggle with wanting to engage the clutch. I suspect you are in a “lower gear” at higher revs when trail breaking. Search the internet and all the books, no one addresses this topic. TY
Because it can’t be answered...all depends on your comfort...there’s no speed for this corner. Depends on your skills, knowledge, pace, etc. I was in 4th gear the whole time.
We have very narrow and blind corners, where oncoming busses actually cross your lane. This is a corner for outside outside inside. Many people to injured and killed by colliding with lane crossing trafic.
Hi. You are awesome. I cannot even begin to tell you HOW much you've helped me ride my new (used) speed triple. Would love to do one of your courses should I find myself on the other end of the planet :)
@@immortalxrob3006 It was quite a treat but I am so glad that I had been doing my parking lot work beforehand. There were a number of increasing radius turns and some of them changing to uphill halfway through the turn. So glad that I stayed in second gear and had plenty of power to handle each turn. We also road the Cherohala Skyway and in a lot of ways it was nicer than the dragon. The Blue Ridge Parkway had tons of great roads and amazing overlooks.
One thing I forgot to mention is that I had read about, and seen videos on, using delayed apex and boy did I get to use it on the dragon and all of the other tight corner roads. I stayed outside in my lane until I could either see the exit of the curve or the start of the next one before I dipped inside. The one "pucker" issue I did have on one curve on a backroad was realizing I needed to tighten my turn and, with it being a blind curve, when I did so...there was a very small patch of gravel. My back tire caught it and slid sideways for what felt like about 8 inches, followed by a relatively mild wobble of the entire bike and then got traction again. I am so glad that I didn't hit either brake when it happened. Needless to say, the rest of the guys that could hear me on my Cardo system heard some very loud expletives!
Sorry if I am a broken record on this reply but other things that I need to mention in hopes that others will benefit come back to my old mind. I did not use my rear brake at any time on the dragon or any other tight turns in North Carolina. I used the front brake to help cut speed before each curve and to load the front end to grip the asphalt going into it. I was really amazed at how much bite loading that brake delivered!
I just had my first and last ride outside training facility during my licence course and when i was starting to ride i got adnotation from you about riding on street lol. In my country exam has two parts: first with slow speed manouvers within exam facility and secound outside on streets. Most people fail on slow speed manouvers. I was total newbie and becouse of that i stayed on slow speed manouvers for long time. Anyway your videos helped me a lot (one about u turns was spot on for me). Thank you for that. And now i got couple more advices on how to ride on streets. I hope it will help me on exam (i got it on friday). 🙂 Thank you for all the help! 🙂🏍️
Hey Eddie! Perhaps in "line" section you should address lean angle and new width of the bike with rider. Basically O-M-O means your head may still hit that mirror... Love following and watching your content, even have your book :) Ride safe and take care!
Mainly ride by myself. But I always tell people on group rides to ride your ride. Don’t worry about keeping up with better riders, that’s a recipe for disaster. My street riding advice is always ride like no one can see you and they are going to do something stupid. Ride with multiple options to get away from anything that might occur.
Yes, ride your own ride...but that's turned into a catch phrase where it looses it's meaning. So that's why I say, you're now by yourself...I don't care who's in front or behind you, what the pace they're going, you do you...you make your own choices and you're responsible for your own safety...has more meaning and impact.
Hey Greg. I think this may be one of your best videos. Nice job. I like how you ended with a back facing video of your trail braking technique. It reinforced what you just taught. Question-I notice when you trail brake you use Lee Park’s technique of being on both the brake and throttle simultaneously at times. I do this too. It makes the transition between acceleration and deceleration and vice verse so smooth. But when I was instructed by Yamaha Champion Riding School, they think I’m crazy. What do you endorse? Could you do a video on the technique? Thanks.
No, you judged incorrectly to what I'm doing...I’m not on the throttle and brakes at the same time. I roll off the gas to 0%...then I squeeze the brake until I'm satisfied with the speed & direction the bike is going, then I release the brake to 0% brake then back to the gas and accelerate.
MotoJitsu: You, of course, know your technique better than I. But look at around 17:20: it really looks/sounds like you gently crack the throttle before completely releasing the brakes. I’m just talking a fraction of a second.
I crack it open very early, but that isn't accelerating...that's just to maintain the speed, "neutral throttle" or "maintenance throttle" what's a fraction of a second, if it was...so what lol
Cool. Got it. Very helpful. Maintenance throttle just to ease the transition- not acceleration. Thanks. Great job. Love your mission. Keep it up. You’ve helped me a ton.
How about the wheel tracks on the m-m-m line selection? I am not an experienced rider but i have heard that you should try to not stay in the middle of the road. Thanks for making these videos!!
Each corner determines what is best to use...if the ground is messed up, you adapt. If it's good, go for it...there's no general rule that applies to all corners...that's why you have to be good at everything.
great points as always.would be great to see the whole clip,maybe from helmet cam looking at the turns ahead so we can see the corners,speed and control sequences.:)thanx.
@@MotoJitsu well..i just figured since you was saying how fast you were going on that road, and how curvy the road was, we was gonna see exactly what u was talking about on that road..like a fast Eddie simulator..but all we got to see was how cool ur helmet looked..im simply trying to say the other perspective holds more educational value,especially when we see the hands and the road ahead.:)
Your videos are coming thick and fast! Observation is the most important tip from me. Use treelines, power lines, shadows, anything to help you judge the corner. I'd love to make a tutorial video like yours. Maybe my next Motovlog will be a tutorial...
A few times I've ridden with other people and they go off much faster than me and I thought yeah, OK maybe their skills are better. Since then some of those guys have crashed and one has given up motorcycling. Just because someone's doing something doesn't mean they are capable of doing it.
Hi. Thank you for this video. You’ve been very helpful. I just want to ask, how about turning into a ramp that’s almost a complete circle? This ramp usually has 25mph sign at the entrance. How would you approach this turn?
I would be curious on a video taking more on trail braking. When I first started learning about it I got information that implied you should only trail brake using the rear brake. But recently I've been seeing the opposite now and people saying it's only the front or usually the front. So which is it? Or which way is better? When would/should you use the rear brake or the front brake to trail brake?
When you say "don't" move your lower body in street riding, clarify this for me. I'm assuming your speaking about the butt cheeks? We should we hug the tank with our knees am I right - due to stability and relax the upper body. But my main question is this: When we start the corner, imagine it's a left corner Shouldn't we move the LEFT LEG in an outside motion? And the RIGHT LEG should grab firmly to the tank? or this is only suited for an aggressive driving stance and hence - track day for example?
Scraped my peg for the first time on my 13' Street Triple up in the canyon no traffic but still have never put my knee down. Do you think I have to hang off further or throw my knee out further? This isn't my main goal in riding but just want to know what it feels like to have my knee hit the pavement. Also if you ever make it to Utah or Somewhere near I will definitely take a class from you.
If you're scrapping your footpeg, you're doing something very wrong..most likely pushing the bike down under you like a dirt bike or like you would for low-speed turns. If you're ever trying knee down, 1st take a course that teaches it, and if you ever practice, it's in a parking lot. Body position for the street is barley anything.
Hey fast Eddie can you do a video on hand grip/positioning of your hand cause I know you said to be loose if you’re on a sport bike cause it’s a aggressive seating position. But the vibration still makes my hand a little numb sometimes, am I gripping too hard ? How do I grip the throttle correctly to deal with the vibrations
I know a lot of other UA-camrs do this, but can you review uploaded crashes on your channel? I'd be interested to hear your perspective on these videos that are going around. I'm not a biker yet but I will be getting my license soon, so I am feeding my brain in preparation lol, then it's practice, practice, practice!
No...nor will I ever. Whoever does crash videos isn't being honest. There are too many unknown variables to why someone crashed...only way I could do that is if I knew the rider, their skill and was right behind them...even then it wouldn't be 100%. Whoever does that is just looking for click bait bs views.
Skill and pace will increase over time with less risk. You should make a route and time it and put on a chart and keep riding that same route getting to know the road practicing on fundamentals of riding ,, breaking points looking for the apax exhilarating out of the turns and trying to ride a stady pace , Taking a riding corse going to a track day 2 or 3 times a year where you can learn more from great rider and there there at the track trust me here ok If you keep your Pace stady and ride at 60% or 80% being safe for the street your pace should increase over time and this should bring you some grat joy knowing you getting better. Im comfortable coming into a turn at 160 breaking hard on bumpy roades where your vision gets blured and comming out of corners with the front end up even in 6th gear. My pace is hi im comfortable riding at 155 mph . I did not start there i was last in the line when i started riding it took years of riding to get where i am today. I have strong points and week points still in my riding . Enjoy the freedom a bike can give you . Ride at you pace not my pace, i still do not try to keep up with faster rider then me its not safe I want to walk off my bike when i put it away.
I am never going to be in California, but I want to test for my belts one day! Will you ever offer remote testing? Or video submissions like the Gracie University jujitsu program works?
Hey, rider. I have browsed your videos, but I haven't found any. If you have it, could you share with the link. I mean a video about tyres. I know you focus a lot on skills. However, based on your knowledge and experience, can you upload anything about tyres recommendations, such as: ideal temperature, rubber composite, and psi; aiming lean angle and knee down. There's lot of literature about this issue, but I would like to hear your feeling.
@@MotoJitsu I have just seen "How to trust your tires". Then, I realised that "total control" is bed-side table book. Nice" I have found the book. It wasn't hard. In fact, you have more videos than I am able to cope with. I am going to watch all videos of yours about this issue this weekend. Thanks for your orientation. From now on, it 's up to me. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the tips, Mojo 👌👌 Can you make a video about keeping your motorcycle from getting stolen by thieves? I've seen different videos of it already, I just want to see if any others had their own creative ideas
Does anyone else pulse the front brake to change direction quickly? The front brake stands the bike up so when I’m leaning and changing direction, I’ll VERY LIGHTLY tap the front brake and it’ll stand up, then I’ll use that momentum to lean over the other way
Re: body position. These guys they see stuff on motoGP and they go WELL ROSSI DOES IT SO IT MUST BE GUD. GOTTA GO FAHHST. Seems some things never change, whether its cars, or bikes, people imitate stuff they don't fully understand.
Hey Fast Eddie! Great video like always! I'm a little confused by the 'don't move your lower body on the street' section. I remember in your video about how to go over any obstacle in the street (ua-cam.com/video/u551BqQkGLk/v-deo.html) you show how if you run across an obstacle in the corner, you can be leaned off the bike and stand it up to avoid the obstacle, but pull it right back down real easy after to complete your corner. It looked like one of the keys to this was your lower body position, so I've since started riding that way when I pick up the pace in the mountains to 'give me a little extra in the reserve' if something were to pop up. Do you not think that having that extra bike lean angle scrubbed off, and having your body in a better position to deal with mid corner changes actually ADDS to the overall safety factor? Curious to get your thoughts, and thanks for all the great content!!
Yes, that has nothing to do with moving your lower body, that's reducing the lean angle to go over something. Lower body movement is never necessary for the street, I never said it was. If you want to do anything, it's just upper...I have many videos explaining this.
Fast Eddie is 100% on the mark here. I brought his book and started practicing and immediately noticed an improvement in my street riding, and was able to better gauge what my skill level is and what I needed to work on! Practice, practice, practice!
hahaha! That poor CBR1000 really thought he was going to be able to keep up. That was pretty funny. I still can't stop thinking about that ride that we had, man. It was so eye-opening! -Brian
A that's terrifying you're going that fast with someone on your back, Savage. B I never understand that look where you're turning thing. Like you never steer the bike? Just lean, or look and your body just leans. Cause ya you never move just your head
@@MotoJitsu oh for sure im buying a bike soon but I never understand people who do the super motor lean shit. Just lightly steering the actual forks aye
Good group ride advice, "act like you are by yourself." Kinda like the gym, check your ego at the door. Don't try and lift too heavy to impress others and maybe get hurt.
Yes!
Spot on Doug!
@Michael Moretti Choose the right group, or just one or two mates who are committed to riding safe.
Been group riding with my local club for a year or so. Finally could not take it any more and don't ride with them anymore. Mixed bag of skills. Poorly organized.
@@RobertMacCready Good idea bailing out...way too risky for sure. Stay safe brother 👍
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One thing my dad always said,Never drive/ride to your limit, if your below your limit and something happens you have a good chance of getting out of it, at your limit and something happens you've got nothing in reserve.
Yes, riding more than 60% of your skill is a good limit for the streets...always need a chuck of reserve in case something happens.
Almost 100k!! Keep sharing and spreading MotoJitsu.com!
Congrats fast eddy, u have helped my riding awareness tremendously
Thanks!!
Fast Eddy. Can you make a tutorial video, "how to wheelie"
I left a note on a sportbike at the walmart that is just up the road from my house. His license plate was "under 21". Told him(I assume) to look up MotoJitsu on youtube and that there is a website. Left my cell and told him if he wanted to practice together sometime to let me know. I kinda wish I had business cards to leave on bikes and give to people.
Take the course Wheelie University, I did.
man, you are awesome! i dig your philosophy. my advanced rider course was all about body position, trail braking and outside inside outside line selection. even during the course i felt these seemed more like track techniques. since putting that training to the streets ive noticed those techniques do indeed work better the faster you are going, which introduces its own problems. now i really only use trail breaking on blind corners, body position feels more important offroad and from now on i will use a outside center outside cornering line! thank you sir! if i ever win the lotto, im coming down for a training session for sure!
Thanks! I'm glad the video is helping out...share with others!
So grateful and happy to have found your channel!!! the best ever!
THANK YOU!! Share with others!
Why bother listening to anybody else when I can just listen to you. It's got to be awesome to ride in the back with someone with your experience. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge.
You're welcome!
Your advice: Outside - Middle - Outside saved me from a serious accident last week.
There was a pickup truck coming from the opposite side which crossed the double line and into around 20% of my side...
Thank you.
You’re welcome :)
Do Americans not do have to a serious licence test? You'd never get a licence in Europe if you didn't ride safely on your test. This stuff is a given.
@@1000sofusernames as far as i’ve heard, in some states you could ride a hayabusa with a learner’s permit. I never drove or rode in the states so i cannot confirm but it was a pretty credible source.
I just got full riding gear, my first bike, took the MSF, and your book "MotoJitsu Master Riding Program" on Kindle. Thanks for the content in all forms!
That’s awesome! Once you comfortable, get into the next level course :)
This is a very good channel where an experienced rider shares the tips so logically without being unnecessary verbose or show off! Excellent!!! Love, from Bangladesh!
I appreciate that!
I always like your sensible approach to riding Fast Eddie. Act like you're by yourself - is something I really take on board. I've ridden with groups of old farts like me who think that they're 18 again. They're actually over 60 or 70, screaming along on road rockets and often breaking the speed limit by 40 or more Kph !! Ay yai yai....They're setting themselves up for a sudden ending. Old guys don't bounce back all that well! Thanks again for your great videos and dedication to realistic and fun riding.
You’re welcome!
Totally agree, especially about the body position. When I was more comfortable on my bike and was able to be smoother and faster always respecting the 70% pace/skill ratio but then got obsessed about the lower body position and realized; 1. It wasn't necessary for that speed at all as I don't even want to be closer to the max roll angle the tire can take specially on the road 2. I was losing too much energy and couldn't really focus on more important things cause I was just worried about hanging off and 3. I was uncomfortable so I couldn't operate the bike properly (brake, accelerate, change gear). Thanks for the videos, great advices!
You're welcome Jesus! Share with others ;)
"Ride your own ride." I say this all the time to new riders. Good to hear from you. Great advice and informative video. I need to work on my trail braking and staying o m o instead of cutting to the inside through blind corners.
Yes, ride your own ride...but that's turned into a catch phrase where it looses it's meaning. So that's why I say, you're now by yourself...I don't care who's in front or behind you, what the pace they're going, you do you...you make your own choices and you're responsible for your own safety...has more meaning and impact. Practice!
@@MotoJitsu very true! I always say, you are gonna have to pay the consequences of your actions, not the guy in front of you, or the guy behind you (unless you crash into them, of course) so if you insist on riding at their pace, but dont have the skills to do so, you're the one who's gonna get hurt (or worse) when you crash, not them. You're the one who'll have to pay to fix your bike and equipment, not them.
But I definitely like the way you put it. It's a very important lesson to learn and put into practice, especially on the street, and in a group, where the group mentality has such an effect on riders.
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I hope everyone watches this video. If they are serious about their riding you made it perfectly clear to ride within your ability. As said by bike review vlogger ... title of his site says ride a you have NothingToProve. I was fixed viewing throughout this video. Refreshed and learned.
Me too! Keep sharing :)
Straight to the point. Nice and clear.
16:16 - I bet the passenger was praying to gods. I would...
Lol
Superb video for anyone who is not knowing how to get to the corners, vision, throttle n braking it's all part of snooty riding. Your explanation is like tutorial really good man.
Thanks!
Great tip for line selection on the road. I’ve had my share of scares in blind corners going outside-inside-outside, so this makes sense.
I'm glad it makes sense.
Yes, very good advice.
one of my favorite moto vloggers. practical advice, easy to understand. he's the Bob Ross of motorcycle instruction; making magic with sharpies.
thanks!!!!
Mate I’m saving to buy my first bike and your videos are really helpful, thanks for the good work!!
No problem 👍
Great demonstration of the subject...Although your videos design is simple, the material is so good that keeps me watching till the very last second
It's meant to be simple...that's why I record almost everything with my iphone and don't do any edits at all :)
Eddie, I like your very straight forward approach to instruction. I have been off a bike for 7 years and just got back on board at 75 years old it is important to do a refresher course. I am off to such a course next weekend. Looking forward to many more years of riding the roads.
Thank you!
All the advocates of trail braking give the impression in EVERY corner it should be used. I don’t road race but like to get a fast corner by being smooth, and accomplish this by following a lot of your invaluable riding advice. Once setup for entering a corner I feel trail braking mostly disrupts my flow and I end up tooooo slow and need to adjust my lean and cornering track to compensate. Thanks for clarifying trail braking is an option.
Only at a certain pace or unfamiliar road is when I do.
THANK YOU! learning a lot!!! from the Philippines!
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Puts the whole bike media portrayal of a slick street rider leaning as if on a race track or power sliding out a corner 'BS' into perspective. Riding like a god would be awesome but imitating these professionals trying to sell bikes to ordinary people just leads to pain. Respect.
Street riding is very different than track.
Just wanted to add that today I rode out to Calville Bay in Lake Mead National Park. The bay entry is 4 miles of downhill twisters at 8% grade. Most corners are blind. I usually ride 6 in/6 out and then return home. About 70 miles round trip. Today on my 6th trip in I came around a blind corner at around 60 mph and 100 feet in front of me were a minimum of 30 big horn sheep crossing the pass. Thanks to the skills Greg speaks about and the practice involved, which I can personally attest to, my reaction was, “I wish I had GoPro so I could show my kids!” Without the hours of practice and constant skill prep, this would have been a very bad day. Practice. Practice. Practice.
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you are on your way to succes! you have put alot of info out there that you don't find too often and the way you teach is super simple and logical, thank you for that!
thanks!
This is a really excellent channel...very grateful for the content provided here...I refer to it all the time...
Thanks!
Sir just subscribed to you channel. I'm about to purchase my first road bike. This is a masterclass in riding technique. I plan to get a small displacement, upright position bike and full gear. I worked for 7 years in a level one trauma center and I know where stupidity gets you. Thank you for the fantastic advice.
thanks! That's great!!!!!
These videos are always helpful.Thanks!
You're welcome!
Really interesting point about body position for Harleys with low ground clearance. I always thought of body position as something more important for lighter bikes where the shift in weight makes more of a difference.
It's most relevant on the street for low ground clearance bikes so it'll be leaned less over, which will allow the bike to hopefully not scrape.
Hi Fast Eddie, I would just like to thank you for all your amazing advice and skill training videos 👍🏻 I am a totally novice bike rider from England who just passed my Mod 1 easily purely because of your amazing advice. I feel very comfortable and confident on the my riding instructors Honda CB 600f ( Hornet I believe ? ) purely because I now understand why the bike behaves as it does and what to do but more importantly what not to do 🙈. Booked in for my Mod 2 in a few weeks and can't wait 😊 Thank you so much for instilling confidence in me that's allowed me to ride safely and smoothly. Kind regards Paul
You're welcome! I'm glad they're so helpful. That's great! Congrats :)
Hello. Thank you for the advice and explaining very clearly, the proper techniques on how to ride safely and become a better rider. Much appreciated
Glad it was helpful!
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I find moving my body position using the three things you told us about getting the knee down, helps me keep the bike more upright and helps me go through the corners faster with more confidence...
All depends on your bike & pace.
@@MotoJitsu yup, thanks for all your tips, really helps with street riding!
you're welcome!
Always good instruction. Thank you for your work.
Thanks
@3:16 You definitely have to be careful when on a blind type corner or with oncoming traffic because not only mirrors but vehicles have this tendency to drift ever so slightly over the line. I find the average a vehicle drifts over before they notice is easily a full tire width over the line so I normally try not to cut in too close just incase. middle is a safe bet when you can'y know for sure what is coming
did you watch the whole video?
1. On one of your earlier videos, you said BODY, HEAD, BIKE. So why did body position become the least important in the 16 tips?
2. I too don't keep my finger on the front brake lever all the time. Happy to see you didn't either. But is it a good practice to keep one finger on the front brake at all times (useful during emergencies according to those who do)?
Great video, as always.
It's always been #16...and I made body, head, bike because people will want to move around regardless.
Your head should be moving all the time anyway, for vision. The important thing is to set your body up for the corner before the 'bike. Of course, you don't necessarily _have_ to shift body position at all (as covered in this video).
@@Grim_Beard Your eyes need to be moving the most. You don't have to set your body before the corner either...I have another video about body timing vs body position coming out next month.
@@MotoJitsuDefinitely agreed about the eyes.
I'll be interested in your timing video when it comes out. My body-bike movement (if I shift my body at all) is usually as one smooth sequence during what you'd call the 'press' part of slow-look-press-roll. However, maybe I should separate them out more. It'll be useful to see your thoughts.
Slow look press roll is stupid. It makes no practical sense and I don't do that at all and I don't recommend anyone to. It's outdated & not recommended.
Re the part about body position: I'd like to add, one of the best things I've learned is to "grab the tank with your knees". Keeping the knees tight against the tank helps you to stay in control, especially in slow manoeuvres (and in curves at "normal" speed). Knee-downs can be fun, of course, but you don't really need them outside the race track.
It can help sometimes...I don't do anything with my legs while riding...only during hard braking I squeeze.
Awesome video, like the details on line selection!
Glad it was helpful!
As always great practical advice and knowledge.... Much appreciated
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Excellent video! You are a great teacher. Thanks for all you do
thanks!
Thanks for another awesome video FE. Trail braking still doesnt come naturally to me yet and every video of you demonstrating this helps a ton. Much love from India.
You're welcome! Nope it doesn't...many people think you can't brake and lean...but you can and it's necessary to learn how ;)
Get used to have two fingers / brake covered while riding first.....Than you 'll start using it more often....
Hi Buds!!
Soooooo close to that 100k!! Your body of work is fricking excellent!! I am always impressed by not only your quality, but your creativity in making these vids!!
Thanks!!
Great advices, thank you for everything
You're welcome! Share with others!!
Brilliant vid thank you. Ride your own ride is great advice too.
Thanks!
Love your videos. I’ve been riding just over 10 years but improved 10 fold after doing your drills and watching the videos. The reading list has been great esp. Lee Parks. My question (not answered in any books or videos). When you are riding the curves in the video (especially with trail breaking), what speed are you going, what RPMs and what gear. I struggle with wanting to engage the clutch. I suspect you are in a “lower gear” at higher revs when trail breaking. Search the internet and all the books, no one addresses this topic. TY
Because it can’t be answered...all depends on your comfort...there’s no speed for this corner. Depends on your skills, knowledge, pace, etc. I was in 4th gear the whole time.
We have very narrow and blind corners, where oncoming busses actually cross your lane. This is a corner for outside outside inside. Many people to injured and killed by colliding with lane crossing trafic.
You adapt to your environment
Hi. You are awesome. I cannot even begin to tell you HOW much you've helped me ride my new (used) speed triple. Would love to do one of your courses should I find myself on the other end of the planet :)
You’re welcome!
Best instructor! Thanks for videos! I'm learning alot! #practicepracticepractice !!
thanks!
This is EXACTLY the information I need as I prepare myself for riding the Tail of the Dragon in 2 weeks. Thanks Fast Eddie for a perfect video!
You’re welcome!
How did the Tail of the Dragon go!? Were you able to implement anything from this video?
@@immortalxrob3006 It was quite a treat but I am so glad that I had been doing my parking lot work beforehand. There were a number of increasing radius turns and some of them changing to uphill halfway through the turn. So glad that I stayed in second gear and had plenty of power to handle each turn. We also road the Cherohala Skyway and in a lot of ways it was nicer than the dragon. The Blue Ridge Parkway had tons of great roads and amazing overlooks.
One thing I forgot to mention is that I had read about, and seen videos on, using delayed apex and boy did I get to use it on the dragon and all of the other tight corner roads. I stayed outside in my lane until I could either see the exit of the curve or the start of the next one before I dipped inside.
The one "pucker" issue I did have on one curve on a backroad was realizing I needed to tighten my turn and, with it being a blind curve, when I did so...there was a very small patch of gravel. My back tire caught it and slid sideways for what felt like about 8 inches, followed by a relatively mild wobble of the entire bike and then got traction again. I am so glad that I didn't hit either brake when it happened. Needless to say, the rest of the guys that could hear me on my Cardo system heard some very loud expletives!
Sorry if I am a broken record on this reply but other things that I need to mention in hopes that others will benefit come back to my old mind. I did not use my rear brake at any time on the dragon or any other tight turns in North Carolina. I used the front brake to help cut speed before each curve and to load the front end to grip the asphalt going into it. I was really amazed at how much bite loading that brake delivered!
I just had my first and last ride outside training facility during my licence course and when i was starting to ride i got adnotation from you about riding on street lol. In my country exam has two parts: first with slow speed manouvers within exam facility and secound outside on streets. Most people fail on slow speed manouvers. I was total newbie and becouse of that i stayed on slow speed manouvers for long time. Anyway your videos helped me a lot (one about u turns was spot on for me). Thank you for that. And now i got couple more advices on how to ride on streets. I hope it will help me on exam (i got it on friday). 🙂 Thank you for all the help! 🙂🏍️
You’re welcome
Good luck 🤞
Awesome, thanks for this!
You bet!
Your explanations are always very cogent. Well done!
thanks
Very effective explanations thanks bro 😎 keep you watching all time
Getting closer to that 100k! Keep up the great content 🍻👍💯
Creeping along!! :)
MotoJitsu me too. I’m almost at 20k! So Excited! Everyone has been very supportive of me including you. Thanks Brotherman 🍻👍
That's awesome!!! :)
Hey Eddie! Perhaps in "line" section you should address lean angle and new width of the bike with rider. Basically O-M-O means your head may still hit that mirror...
Love following and watching your content, even have your book :)
Ride safe and take care!
It's highly unlikely. Thanks!
Thank you MotoJitsu!
You bet!
Great advice! The only thing I'd like to see is more on: counter steering. Thanks
I have 2 videos about counter steering and ironically, in the video clip on the end, that's all I'm doing.
I see what you’re saying!! Good stuff
Love your teaching, I know I need pay attention to my terrain....blind corners middle lane what about oil in the middle lane? Thank you
Thanks!
Mainly ride by myself. But I always tell people on group rides to ride your ride. Don’t worry about keeping up with better riders, that’s a recipe for disaster. My street riding advice is always ride like no one can see you and they are going to do something stupid. Ride with multiple options to get away from anything that might occur.
Yes, ride your own ride...but that's turned into a catch phrase where it looses it's meaning. So that's why I say, you're now by yourself...I don't care who's in front or behind you, what the pace they're going, you do you...you make your own choices and you're responsible for your own safety...has more meaning and impact.
Hey Greg. I think this may be one of your best videos. Nice job. I like how you ended with a back facing video of your trail braking technique. It reinforced what you just taught. Question-I notice when you trail brake you use Lee Park’s technique of being on both the brake and throttle simultaneously at times. I do this too. It makes the transition between acceleration and deceleration and vice verse so smooth. But when I was instructed by Yamaha Champion Riding School, they think I’m crazy. What do you endorse? Could you do a video on the technique? Thanks.
No, you judged incorrectly to what I'm doing...I’m not on the throttle and brakes at the same time. I roll off the gas to 0%...then I squeeze the brake until I'm satisfied with the speed & direction the bike is going, then I release the brake to 0% brake then back to the gas and accelerate.
MotoJitsu: You, of course, know your technique better than I. But look at around 17:20: it really looks/sounds like you gently crack the throttle before completely releasing the brakes. I’m just talking a fraction of a second.
MotoJitsu I’m sorry: 16:50 ish
I crack it open very early, but that isn't accelerating...that's just to maintain the speed, "neutral throttle" or "maintenance throttle" what's a fraction of a second, if it was...so what lol
Cool. Got it. Very helpful. Maintenance throttle just to ease the transition- not acceleration. Thanks. Great job. Love your mission. Keep it up. You’ve helped me a ton.
How about the wheel tracks on the m-m-m line selection? I am not an experienced rider but i have heard that you should try to not stay in the middle of the road. Thanks for making these videos!!
Each corner determines what is best to use...if the ground is messed up, you adapt. If it's good, go for it...there's no general rule that applies to all corners...that's why you have to be good at everything.
I`m following you for a while, really good content, BRAVO !!!
thanks!
@@MotoJitsu your welcome, many things to learn ;)
great points as always.would be great to see the whole clip,maybe from helmet cam looking at the turns ahead so we can see the corners,speed and control sequences.:)thanx.
I have many videos doing that.
@@MotoJitsu well..i just figured since you was saying how fast you were going on that road, and how curvy the road was, we was gonna see exactly what u was talking about on that road..like a fast Eddie simulator..but all we got to see was how cool ur helmet looked..im simply trying to say the other perspective holds more educational value,especially when we see the hands and the road ahead.:)
Watch the other videos I have.
Your videos are coming thick and fast! Observation is the most important tip from me. Use treelines, power lines, shadows, anything to help you judge the corner. I'd love to make a tutorial video like yours. Maybe my next Motovlog will be a tutorial...
Every Wednesday
A few times I've ridden with other people and they go off much faster than me and I thought yeah, OK maybe their skills are better. Since then some of those guys have crashed and one has given up motorcycling. Just because someone's doing something doesn't mean they are capable of doing it.
Yup!
Hi. Thank you for this video. You’ve been very helpful. I just want to ask, how about turning into a ramp that’s almost a complete circle? This ramp usually has 25mph sign at the entrance. How would you approach this turn?
A ramp? Like a parking structure? Go very slowly.
u have a great channel love it !
thanks!
I would be curious on a video taking more on trail braking. When I first started learning about it I got information that implied you should only trail brake using the rear brake. But recently I've been seeing the opposite now and people saying it's only the front or usually the front. So which is it? Or which way is better? When would/should you use the rear brake or the front brake to trail brake?
You can trail brake with either. I have a video called Your Best Friend: The Brakes you should watch & follow Yamaha Champions Riding School
OMO - OIO - MMM, know where to use, this is what saves lives!
Yup
When you say "don't" move your lower body in street riding, clarify this for me.
I'm assuming your speaking about the butt cheeks?
We should we hug the tank with our knees am I right - due to stability and relax the upper body.
But my main question is this:
When we start the corner, imagine it's a left corner
Shouldn't we move the LEFT LEG in an outside motion?
And the RIGHT LEG should grab firmly to the tank? or this is only suited for an aggressive driving stance and hence - track day for example?
I mean DON'T MOVE YOUR LOWER BODY IN STREET RIDING. Lol Moving your legs is pointless for street riding.
Scraped my peg for the first time on my 13' Street Triple up in the canyon no traffic but still have never put my knee down. Do you think I have to hang off further or throw my knee out further? This isn't my main goal in riding but just want to know what it feels like to have my knee hit the pavement. Also if you ever make it to Utah or Somewhere near I will definitely take a class from you.
If you're scrapping your footpeg, you're doing something very wrong..most likely pushing the bike down under you like a dirt bike or like you would for low-speed turns. If you're ever trying knee down, 1st take a course that teaches it, and if you ever practice, it's in a parking lot. Body position for the street is barley anything.
Thanks bro. I wasn't crossed up though
@@stevenfortier6436 Crossed up isn't the same thing as what I'm saying.
I just need to take a class from you or someone that can show me what I'm doing and need to do. Appreciate the feedback
Hey fast Eddie can you do a video on hand grip/positioning of your hand cause I know you said to be loose if you’re on a sport bike cause it’s a aggressive seating position. But the vibration still makes my hand a little numb sometimes, am I gripping too hard ? How do I grip the throttle correctly to deal with the vibrations
It's all because you're gripping too hard and or too much weight on your wrists.
hey @Motojitsu when trail braking do u use the rear brake aswell the front, or do use the front brake only?.
I have a whole video about the rear brake and trail braking with it where I explain.
I know a lot of other UA-camrs do this, but can you review uploaded crashes on your channel? I'd be interested to hear your perspective on these videos that are going around. I'm not a biker yet but I will be getting my license soon, so I am feeding my brain in preparation lol, then it's practice, practice, practice!
No...nor will I ever. Whoever does crash videos isn't being honest. There are too many unknown variables to why someone crashed...only way I could do that is if I knew the rider, their skill and was right behind them...even then it wouldn't be 100%. Whoever does that is just looking for click bait bs views.
Skill and pace will increase over time with less risk.
You should make a route and time it and put on a chart and keep riding that same route getting to know the road practicing on fundamentals of riding ,, breaking points looking for the apax exhilarating out of the turns and trying to ride a stady pace ,
Taking a riding corse going to a track day 2 or 3 times a year where you can learn more from great rider
and there there at the track trust me here ok
If you keep your Pace stady and ride at 60% or 80% being safe for the street your pace should increase
over time and this should bring you some grat joy knowing you getting better.
Im comfortable coming into a turn at 160 breaking hard on bumpy roades where your vision gets blured and comming out of corners with the front end up even in 6th gear.
My pace is hi im comfortable riding at 155 mph . I did not start there i was last in the line when i started riding it took years of riding to get where i am today.
I have strong points and week points still in my riding . Enjoy the freedom a bike can give you . Ride at you pace not my pace, i still do not try to keep up with faster rider then me its not safe
I want to walk off my bike when i put it away.
If you haven’t, keep taking high level courses like the ones off my website motojitsu.com :)
I believe position within the lane should be first.
ok?
I am never going to be in California, but I want to test for my belts one day! Will you ever offer remote testing? Or video submissions like the Gracie University jujitsu program works?
No
@@MotoJitsu Well, I guess my road trip to mt rushmore and the grand canyon just got extended by a few miles ;)
The point of MotoJitsu isn't to get a belt..it's to go practice :)
Great video ... What is your best recommendation to become a faster rider on the street while maintaining safe ?
Take high level courses then practice what you learn. MotoJitsu.com has all the courses I recommend.
Hey, rider. I have browsed your videos, but I haven't found any. If you have it, could you share with the link. I mean a video about tyres. I know you focus a lot on skills. However, based on your knowledge and experience, can you upload anything about tyres recommendations, such as: ideal temperature, rubber composite, and psi; aiming lean angle and knee down. There's lot of literature about this issue, but I would like to hear your feeling.
Read Total Control, 2nd Edition by Lee Parks. First chapter is all about traction & tires.
@@MotoJitsu, right! I will search it.
I have a video about tires, but that book explains everything.
@@MotoJitsu I have just seen "How to trust your tires". Then, I realised that "total control" is bed-side table book. Nice" I have found the book. It wasn't hard. In fact, you have more videos than I am able to cope with. I am going to watch all videos of yours about this issue this weekend. Thanks for your orientation. From now on, it 's up to me. Thanks a lot!
You're welcome!
Thanks for the tips, Mojo 👌👌
Can you make a video about keeping your motorcycle from getting stolen by thieves? I've seen different videos of it already, I just want to see if any others had their own creative ideas
Thanks! I have no advice, I don’t even care if my bike gets stolen. I just cover it each night, that’s it.
@@MotoJitsu AMEN!!
I want to get protection for my bike. Question: Frame Sliders or Crash bar? and is there anything the protect the shifter as well?
Depends on the bike mostly.
@@MotoJitsu Kawi Z650
Crash bars are usually for cruiser bikes...almost all others get frame sliders.
Nice nice so far man👌👌💯
Thanks ✌
Which mode are you using on your S1000R? I'm still getting used to the bike using Road but I want to try Dynamic
Dynamic riding mode, road for damping
Hey man you should do a video on how to ride the motorcycle over different types of speed bumps .
I have a video about how to go over bumbs...but speed bumps, just go 5 mph....don't need a video.
I noticed you didn't touch the clutch while cornering. I take it that's any absolute no-no to pull in the clutch while cornering.
This bike has a quick shifter stock. No clutch needed for up or down shifting.
Is it ok to do countersteer and trail braking at the same time on corners?
Counter steering happens no matter what...8; you’re aware or not. Trail braking can be done at any moment
Great video bro🙂waiting for 100k:)
Soon!
Does anyone else pulse the front brake to change direction quickly? The front brake stands the bike up so when I’m leaning and changing direction, I’ll VERY LIGHTLY tap the front brake and it’ll stand up, then I’ll use that momentum to lean over the other way
None of that makes sense...and the front brake doesn't stand the bike up nor will tapping the front brake stand it up either.
@@MotoJitsu If anything, wouldn't the front brake decrease speed and therefore increase the lean angle (all else being equal)?
yes
Does your ability to trail brake diminish without abs?
Has nothing to do with it
@@MotoJitsu Isn't abs just so you don't like your brakes? Never actually looked into what abs does exactly.
Re: body position. These guys they see stuff on motoGP and they go WELL ROSSI DOES IT SO IT MUST BE GUD. GOTTA GO FAHHST. Seems some things never change, whether its cars, or bikes, people imitate stuff they don't fully understand.
Agreed :)
My BS filter is fast Eddie approved 👍🏼
:)
You r a nice guy.
thanks
Hey Fast Eddie! Great video like always! I'm a little confused by the 'don't move your lower body on the street' section. I remember in your video about how to go over any obstacle in the street (ua-cam.com/video/u551BqQkGLk/v-deo.html) you show how if you run across an obstacle in the corner, you can be leaned off the bike and stand it up to avoid the obstacle, but pull it right back down real easy after to complete your corner. It looked like one of the keys to this was your lower body position, so I've since started riding that way when I pick up the pace in the mountains to 'give me a little extra in the reserve' if something were to pop up. Do you not think that having that extra bike lean angle scrubbed off, and having your body in a better position to deal with mid corner changes actually ADDS to the overall safety factor? Curious to get your thoughts, and thanks for all the great content!!
Yes, that has nothing to do with moving your lower body, that's reducing the lean angle to go over something. Lower body movement is never necessary for the street, I never said it was. If you want to do anything, it's just upper...I have many videos explaining this.
Legit
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Cant take the colour marker scratching ;/
sheesh if that bothers you then your life must be hell
Well, the question here, how to tell what your skill is. Hard to say if i’m doing 70 or 130 percent until its too late :)
By taking courses and practicing and experimenting with your bike.
Fast Eddie is 100% on the mark here. I brought his book and started practicing and immediately noticed an improvement in my street riding, and was able to better gauge what my skill level is and what I needed to work on! Practice, practice, practice!
hahaha! That poor CBR1000 really thought he was going to be able to keep up. That was pretty funny.
I still can't stop thinking about that ride that we had, man. It was so eye-opening!
-Brian
Yes!! :)
A that's terrifying you're going that fast with someone on your back, Savage. B I never understand that look where you're turning thing. Like you never steer the bike? Just lean, or look and your body just leans. Cause ya you never move just your head
All i'm doing is steering the bike...body position isn't necessary for every turn...all depends
@@MotoJitsu oh for sure im buying a bike soon but I never understand people who do the super motor lean shit. Just lightly steering the actual forks aye
I trust you a lot more now that I know you're left-handed.
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