Jay Weinberg vs Eloy Casagrande - Unsainted - Drum cam comparison.

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  • @dmytrotonitsoi
    @dmytrotonitsoi 7 днів тому +397

    This is literally the “you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about” meme

    • @fabiofernandes4135
      @fabiofernandes4135 7 днів тому +2

      I understood 😂😂😂

    • @Jeudaos
      @Jeudaos 7 днів тому

      pretty much. Eloy is A MONSTER

    • @nathanjones3711
      @nathanjones3711 6 днів тому +1

      You win the internet today

    • @satricon
      @satricon 6 днів тому +1

      looool

    • @tonamg53
      @tonamg53 6 днів тому +1

      More like “You vs the guy you had no chance competing with, so you tell her you wish them all the best as you step aside to let the man to take your place”

  • @LouieGrind
    @LouieGrind 8 днів тому +225

    Eloy's ghost tunes and flares are just out of this world. Like the dynamics that dude gets is unreal. Hands down one of the greatest drummers of all time.

    • @FrankDag
      @FrankDag 6 днів тому +6

      TBF he's using arguably the greatest, loudest, most sensitive snare drum ever made…you could blow on that Tama bell brass & get ghost notes out of it. But yeah he's one of the greats, no doubt.

    • @orlandofernandez3436
      @orlandofernandez3436 10 годин тому

      true

    • @closinginonclosure
      @closinginonclosure 47 хвилин тому

      "Ghost TUNES"? Do you mean, ghost NOTES?

  • @luismonteiro1388
    @luismonteiro1388 7 днів тому +176

    Jay plays ghost notes
    Eloy plays Poltergeist notes
    raised the level, perfect

    • @vonbeaver99
      @vonbeaver99 4 дні тому +2

      People who don’t drum always talk about “ghost notes”

    • @harikoa4723
      @harikoa4723 2 дні тому +1

      I think Eloy also just hits a hell of a lot harder which makes his speed and accuracy even more impressive.

  • @rjanolsen3935
    @rjanolsen3935 8 днів тому +295

    Eloys drum sound can kill a moose at 10.000 feet away..fuckin hell

  • @funkysanta9052
    @funkysanta9052 6 днів тому +73

    For me personally Jay Weinberg stepped in to fill in some very big shoes after Joey left and I respect what he has done in keeping the metal machine that is Slipknot running until they found the drummer that could bring the original energy and drive that Joey brought into the band from its inception till the day he left. Jay was the drummer who punched well above his weight class in keeping things going after Joey Jordinson and I deeply respect him for it.

    • @Mr.K2022
      @Mr.K2022 3 дні тому +9

      Agreed, everyone keeps shitting on Jay but he did his job exceptionally well

    • @behindthen0thing525
      @behindthen0thing525 3 дні тому +1

      Naw he sucks

    • @jeffhayesexperiment
      @jeffhayesexperiment 2 дні тому

      @@Mr.K2022I mean he did alright. It’s only cuz his dad he even got the gig….

    • @matthewshelley1365
      @matthewshelley1365 2 дні тому

      Not a fan of Jay or his dad but this is so fair, he really went for it

    • @stewartross13
      @stewartross13 2 дні тому

      Jordison

  • @c4rlo5Bl3ss
    @c4rlo5Bl3ss 7 днів тому +114

    What I think is really cool about Eloy is that he doesn't just play with his arms, but with his whole body. The intensity of how he plays is something out of this world.

    • @josedomingosteixeira1379
      @josedomingosteixeira1379 7 днів тому

      imagine how many drum sets he's going to go through in a tour

    • @LucanTheRando
      @LucanTheRando 2 дні тому +2

      as a drummer myself, i think he looks ridiculous, you can put in that level of energy and intensity without looking overexaggerated

    • @josedomingosteixeira1379
      @josedomingosteixeira1379 2 дні тому +1

      @@LucanTheRandoit's not acting he's always played like that

    • @LucanTheRando
      @LucanTheRando День тому

      @@josedomingosteixeira1379 where did I say he was acting? I'm saying his style looks ridiculous

    • @viraajgupta6047
      @viraajgupta6047 День тому

      @@LucanTheRandomoving your body in that way is an excellent form of keeping time- proven by Eloy’s killer pocket. Not to mention, why not exaggerate movements? it’s fun!

  • @Jay3ro
    @Jay3ro 6 днів тому +57

    With Jay being in Slipknot as long as we was I sort of grew attached to him and I was upset when he was fired and I miss him, idk I just really like the dude, I can accept that Eloy's clearly better and both Jay and the band are thriving but there's just that part of me that will always miss Jay.

    • @SunshineHB
      @SunshineHB 5 днів тому +3

      Nothing wrong with that, man! It’s a bummer when the lineup of a band you have bonded with most changes.

    • @emperorurbi
      @emperorurbi 3 години тому

      Same here! I saw Jay live a couple of times and damn it's a force to be reckoned with behind the kit, he brings the whole sound together!
      These videos do him credit enough!

  • @Ultrahardfeelings
    @Ultrahardfeelings 7 днів тому +18

    i'm always smiling while notice comments that starts with "no disrespect to Jay, but...."

  • @chrisdrumz7
    @chrisdrumz7 8 днів тому +266

    I think any drummer can tell that it’s clear as day that Eloy outperformed Jay on this.
    1. Eloy plays it at the original tempo while Jay is rushing, you can hear this a LOT live in other videos as well
    2. Eloy adds tasteful ghost notes and extra subtleties that make this drum part flow so much better, and he is overall more precise and every hit is clear and loud.
    No disrespect to Jay bc he is a hell of a drummer is his own right, but Eloy is on another level. He is for sure the most technical player out of all of them and hits hard af, he is doing an awesome job.

    • @_lucaslvs
      @_lucaslvs 8 днів тому +22

      man, those ghost notes... 🤤

    • @mcafalchio
      @mcafalchio 8 днів тому +6

      I cant say that, the fast tempo could be a band decision.

    • @drumbeard
      @drumbeard 8 днів тому +21

      ​@@mcafalchio it wasn't. Reportedly it was one of the reasons Jay got fired, as he had time to improve and did not.

    • @mcafalchio
      @mcafalchio 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@drumbeardoh, new information. Eloy is better timekeeper tho

    • @nathandrums0
      @nathandrums0 7 днів тому

      @@drumbeardy’all are so goddamn stupid lol. Reportedly? It wasn’t why he got fired. The band as a whole wasn’t on a click track during the jay years. Even Jim root has said in an interview that they were all on fire and rushing live. They’re using a click now. They also don’t play at the original tempos. They’re even slower depending on the song. Eloy has admitted his weakness as a drummer is double kick.

  • @LegendasBRMetal
    @LegendasBRMetal 8 днів тому +71

    Mano, os caras nos comentários se estapeando pra ver quem é melhor, uns papo nada haver. O legal é ver as diferenças de cada um.
    Mano, o Slipknot teve três grandes bateristas, cada um com sua importância e seu estilo, Joey foi o criador, Jay foi o recomeço e o Eloy é a nova era!

    • @niovas
      @niovas 8 днів тому +4

      bela resposta amigo!

    • @TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw
      @TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw 8 днів тому +15

      Eu gosto de ver as comparações pois sou baterista e é massa analisar e até apreciar o som da bateria. Mas tá dando preguiça dos comentários em todos os vídeos, pois é todo mundo rebaixando o Jay e babando o Eloy, sempre os mesmos comentários, nada nada nada novo ou original. Até desrespeitar o Joey, que foi o pilar da banda e tá descansando em paz, a galera rebaixa, uma grande besteira. Metade aqui nunca nem viu uma bateria de perto, se pensar sobre.

    • @sonoobgameplays926
      @sonoobgameplays926 8 днів тому

      @@TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw Mas cada um tem seus gostos, se alguém prefere tal baterista do que outro, isso não é da conta de ninguém, cada um deles tem seu proprio estilo.

    • @defithefuture7621
      @defithefuture7621 8 днів тому +4

      Famosa resposta clichê... o famoso isentão que fica em cima do muro. Nem frio.. nem morno...
      Quero é distância desse tipo de gente.

    • @nassograton
      @nassograton 8 днів тому +5

      Não sei de onde você tirou que as pessoas estão brigando pr ver quem é o melhor. Todos aqui sabem quem é o melhor, aparentemente só você que não.

  • @JoaoBatista-yw9bq
    @JoaoBatista-yw9bq 8 днів тому +39

    Jay 🔥🔥👍eloy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🤟🤟🤟

  • @DangOlJesse
    @DangOlJesse 3 дні тому +6

    Jay is a monster on the kit, but he almost seems shy, whereas every stroke Eloy plays is very deliberate, impactful, and confident. Hats off to both guys though. I could never.

  • @pixelmentia
    @pixelmentia 5 днів тому +7

    I haven’t been keeping up with Slipknot at all. Holy shit. I need to go see them while they have Eloy. What an absolute beast.

  • @LeandroSilva-uz1jb
    @LeandroSilva-uz1jb 8 днів тому +37

    O que gosto no Eloy , é que tem identidade, não é uma tentativa de cópia do joey, Joey não pode ser copiado, assim como o Eloy não pode ser cópia e nem copiado são estilos de personalidade diferenciadas, porém o Jay foi uma frustração como baterista do Slipknot por causa do próprio, pois ele escondeu sua identidade, ninguém deve fazer isso!

    • @mateusxavier8805
      @mateusxavier8805 8 днів тому +7

      Exato, sempre achei que ele tentou copiar muito o Joey ao invés de pegar as partes essesnciais da composição original e dar o toque dele. Até as viradas que o Joey fazia ao vivo o Jay copiou. Eloy já é outra história, manteve o importante do original mas colocou sua personalidade nas músicas e fez delas dele.

    • @rafaelericson
      @rafaelericson 8 днів тому +2

      Lembrando que Unsainted foi escrita pelo Jay, e nao pelo Joey..

    • @mateusxavier8805
      @mateusxavier8805 8 днів тому +1

      @@rafaelericson não estamos falando dessa música em específico, mas num contexto geral

    • @johnmarkgamayot4434
      @johnmarkgamayot4434 5 днів тому

      You maybe said Jay copied Joey because both has almost has the same physique.

  • @closinginonclosure
    @closinginonclosure 46 хвилин тому +1

    When Eloy was born, the doctor delivering him told his parents "Congratulations, it's a Metronome!"

  • @Turbo614
    @Turbo614 6 днів тому +10

    they are both AMAZING musicians theres no comparison needed.

    • @rainegingerfish8860
      @rainegingerfish8860 4 дні тому

      Why is no comparison needed? I want to see a comparison, if you don’t, then fuck off

  •  8 днів тому +92

    01:08 eloy hard mode

    • @levibruno9169
      @levibruno9169 8 днів тому +1

      The best

    • @TylerHNothing
      @TylerHNothing 2 дні тому

      Still a cool Jay written fill. At least written while he was with the band

  • @tingkagol
    @tingkagol 7 днів тому +48

    Jay's playing is much closer to Joey in terms of dynamics and strength. Eloy is a completely different animal compared to all of them. All Eloy needs now is to write crazy new Slipknot songs and he'll really be the best among them...

  • @seppes11
    @seppes11 5 днів тому +2

    The wear and tear on Slipknot's drummers is not the drummers' fault. They are all incredibly good.

  • @1ThaiSurfer
    @1ThaiSurfer 8 днів тому +165

    Eloy sound and tune are better than the original jay.😂😂

    • @martincorral6835
      @martincorral6835 7 днів тому +7

      this is also in part because i believe that eloy records these drum cams with the yamaha ead10- which makes it sound more raw and the snare pop like crazy. I own one and I can get my snare to sound close to this.
      Not saying eloy isn’t a monster but if we had a drum cam with jay and that ead 10 sound I feel like there would be more different opinions.

    • @lordskysixss
      @lordskysixss 7 днів тому +4

      @@martincorral6835 It might sound the same, but it would still be rushed and less precise. Jay is amazing, but Eloy is like a machine

  • @user-iv2fz6nd8e
    @user-iv2fz6nd8e 7 днів тому +3

    Eloy plays hard and heavy. Jay is a rebirth of Joey but Joey will always be the GOAT

  • @BamaRockstar85
    @BamaRockstar85 8 днів тому +63

    Jay was added bc they needed a drummer quickly. Eloy was added bc they wanted to have the best metal drummer out there in their band. They needed his uplift his energy to kickstart their band again

    • @samgeek4857
      @samgeek4857 8 днів тому +3

      Best drummer? Have you ever heard about Evgeny Novikov?

    • @DrBlackwave
      @DrBlackwave 8 днів тому +11

      @@samgeek4857 Evgeny Novikov uses trigger on his kit.

    • @samgeek4857
      @samgeek4857 8 днів тому +1

      @@DrBlackwave my gosh!! So did Joey and Eloy all are using triggers. And there are videos of Evgeny Novikov drum cams with pure drum sounds only. You might wanna refer to them

    • @boomerdunkin
      @boomerdunkin 8 днів тому +13

      ​@@samgeek4857Eloy doesn't use triggers, & Joey only did later on

    • @samgeek4857
      @samgeek4857 8 днів тому +4

      @@boomerdunkin Bruh are you kidding me? Eloy is definitely using triggers specially in kicks and watch Joey 2002 london live performance videos he was using triggers and I don't have any problems with triggers as they do nothing to enhance kicks skills. Drummer wise and pattern wise Evgeny Novikov is by far a better drummer. Even Corey Taylor was interested in Evgeny, he went to meet them before their performance.

  • @miguelrvr23
    @miguelrvr23 День тому

    Eloy killing it! You can see he’s enjoying what he plays and I think he grew hearing this songs. Also Jay helped filling Joey’s throne that’s not a easy task but he done it nicely 🔥

  • @hypertensionfilms5439
    @hypertensionfilms5439 6 днів тому +8

    Let us not forget that they're playing (mostly) songs written by Joey. Never forget the man himself. 🙏 🪦

  • @zakm9028
    @zakm9028 День тому

    Jeez, Eloy’s snare is just perfection

  • @SayKyleNotCow
    @SayKyleNotCow 6 днів тому +7

    Just Eloy’s footwork alone is enough to make you want to throw your kit out of a 10 story building and give up. It’s just unreal how incredible the guy is.

  • @ricardoseixas1935
    @ricardoseixas1935 7 днів тому

    Não tem nem como comparar… Jay bate fofo demais, Eloy é um animal

  • @nordimejia5790
    @nordimejia5790 7 днів тому +2

    I am not a drummer, but i really prefer Jay's style....i just like it more.

    • @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo
      @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo 7 днів тому +2

      that's understandable. eloy is more of a "drummers favorite drummer" that primarily only musicians can understand and appreciate. jay is much more simple which is more attractive to non musicians. its more "radio friendly" so to speak

  • @jamesm5883
    @jamesm5883 6 днів тому +8

    Lets just say this, they're both excellent drummers with their own style. It's like comparing David Lee Roth to Sammy Haggar

  • @EMWFigureShelf
    @EMWFigureShelf День тому

    Different techniques/approaches here, but both have their fit within slipknot albeit at different times. I am happy to had seen Jay live with slipknot and will miss him. Moving forward, I look forward to hopefully seeing Eloy live along with a possible new album.

  • @fairu8256
    @fairu8256 8 днів тому +12

    El que mas se parece a joey a la hora de tocar es jay, una tecnica bastante parecida pero no igual, relajado a la hora de tocar e improvisan, en cambio eloy tiene una técnica distinta, mas agresiva , un metrónomo humano pero no deja de sonar excelente.

  • @EnzoeChristian
    @EnzoeChristian 8 днів тому +9

    Nem humano o Eloy é, na moral... Uma máquina 🔥🔥

  • @cvblaylock
    @cvblaylock 6 днів тому +2

    Jay’s drums sound better regarding my tuning preference. Eloy has nasty ghost notes but they aren’t needed. Both are phenomenal drummers. Not sure why we must compare them.

    • @laporteestouverte
      @laporteestouverte 5 днів тому

      I agree. For some reason, Eloy's drums here sound very tinny, like St Anger or El Estepario Siberiano (whose drum sound I really dislike, despite him being so good). It kind of ruins his performance for me.

    • @2006Whippet
      @2006Whippet 3 дні тому

      ​@@laporteestouverteI'd say that has more to do with the recording equipment being used for the different drum cam videos.

  • @lucasnascimento3063
    @lucasnascimento3063 7 днів тому

    Jay Wainberg Corrido demais , muito emocionado.

  • @Rob_0_Pierce
    @Rob_0_Pierce 8 днів тому +315

    No offense to Jay but there’s no comparison… Eloy played stuff at 14 that Jay couldn’t touch today. All is right in the world of metal.

  • @artieriesterer8633
    @artieriesterer8633 2 дні тому

    God Eloy’s snare tone fucking kills

  • @GuaChiMinh
    @GuaChiMinh 3 дні тому

    Slipknot: "don't worry Jay, Eloy is Just a friend"

  • @alonthoni
    @alonthoni Хвилина тому

    I love both. They have different style

  • @scottperson4819
    @scottperson4819 7 днів тому +6

    Eloy doesn’t overplay. He does what a drummer is supposed to do. Have a solid pocket and drive the band and set the tempo. All the other amazing stuff is what sets him apart

  • @2006Whippet
    @2006Whippet 3 дні тому

    Whie Eloy is definitely in my top 5 list of favorite drummers, I'd say they both sound good. A lot of what I like about Eloy, in addition to playing, is his overall personality.

  • @SniffersCreepers
    @SniffersCreepers 4 дні тому

    Joey Jordison/Slipknot songs inspired me to play drums
    Jay, Eloy, or some future drummers for this band would be fine for me
    imo they both sound amazing.
    please keep this band alive

  • @harveysengers1379
    @harveysengers1379 6 днів тому +2

    Jay is a great drummer who comes close to copying Joey the right way. Eloy is a beast of a independent drummer (or better yet, a fucking animal) that can call himself Joey's equal when it comes to mastering his instrument.

  • @youdontknowmestopasking1173
    @youdontknowmestopasking1173 2 дні тому

    If you ever wanna hear Eloy’s great drumming in an album. Listen to Sepulturas The Mediator between head and hands must be the heart.

  • @RightonOh
    @RightonOh 2 дні тому

    In my country, we always say don't compare people if they have same role/position back and forth, because truth always hurt.

  • @matheuspl1297
    @matheuspl1297 8 днів тому +26

    Jay, o famoso toca fofo

    • @TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw
      @TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw 8 днів тому +2

      Matheus, o famoso baba ovo. Se Eloy abaixar as calças pra você eu sei que você não pensaria duas vezes.

    • @matheuspl1297
      @matheuspl1297 8 днів тому +15

      @@TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw Parou cara, é somente um fato, n estou babando ovo

    • @serdomal8796
      @serdomal8796 8 днів тому +13

      @@TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw vish pegou ar sozinho kkkkkkk

    • @patrickiwsleyter6738
      @patrickiwsleyter6738 8 днів тому +3

      ​@@TiagoCarvalho-ht9vwsentiu hein

    • @cac_37
      @cac_37 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw que viagem foi essa cara ? Só foi um comentário e vc pegou ar pelo Jay kkkkk

  • @lucaslimapizzaiolo
    @lucaslimapizzaiolo 7 днів тому

    Eloy orgulho Nacional ......

  • @albertoblanco100
    @albertoblanco100 7 днів тому

    02 grandes bateristas!!!

  • @pedrotam
    @pedrotam 8 днів тому +1

    No me gusta mucho ésto de compararlos, ambos tienen sus estilos, sus técnicas y en su momento fueron y son esenciales para la banda.

  • @rometherevenant8749
    @rometherevenant8749 6 днів тому

    Both great drummers.

  • @devgregdrum
    @devgregdrum 7 днів тому +1

    in terms of how the drum sounds and tune i like Jay more, but Eloy is literally a monster 😂

  • @slowmotionfirefight9219
    @slowmotionfirefight9219 20 годин тому

    Jay tickled his drum kit, Eloy straight up murdered it.

  • @KennethDavis11
    @KennethDavis11 8 днів тому +31

    Jay had the energy needed for Slipknot, he just didn’t know how to control it that well. Eloy is a perfect example of having discipline and control behind the kit.

    • @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo
      @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo 7 днів тому +1

      the issue with jay is that he never learned to read music which significantly hinders your knowledge and creativity. eloy is creative and has his own unique style which shows up more obviously in his prog band. chops, power, speed is impressive but if you have nothing else it is easily forgettable and there is no distinction between other drummers. you can hear eloy's playing without watching and know it's him but not the same for jay.

    • @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo
      @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo 6 днів тому

      @@Murdacat i'm aware, especially some of the gospel drummers, but there is a ceiling and that's not a hidden fact. the best drummers in the world are doing creative stuff with quintuplets, nested tuplets, and advanced modulations that just aren't possible for someone that doesn't have education. technically it is possible, there's just a significant disadvantage which is why you never see it.

    • @laporteestouverte
      @laporteestouverte 5 днів тому

      @@smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo Would you have examples of drummers (and possibly songs) doing what you've described ? Thanks

    • @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo
      @smoked-old-fashioned-hh7lo 5 днів тому

      @@laporteestouverte thomas lang, vinnie colaiuta, gavin harrison, matt garstka, tony royster jr, elliot hoffman, tomas haake, ronald bruner jr, eloy, chris coleman, virgil donati, steve smith. i could go on and on, but those are some names. you could debate where they all rank, but they're in the same class. i assume you're more of a metal guy, so for that i would recommend elliot hoffman (car bomb) - lights out, anti-patterns, dissect yourself. i would also recommend matt garstka (animals as leaders) - monomyth, conflict cartography, micro aggressions. there's more i could recommend, but you can explore from there on your own.

  • @user-lp4ds9gr6z
    @user-lp4ds9gr6z 4 дні тому

    Vou falar em português para que comecem a entender de onde vem a versatilidade do eloy, o muaico brasileiro não esta preso a um preconceito musical em apenas aprender 1 estilo, ha alguns bateristas de bandas poucos famosas no brasil que garanto poderiam tocar no Slipknot, nao quero dizer que o slip seja uma banda qualquer lonje disso, porem o que escutamos no pedal duplo do eloy e o trabalho de varios grooves de estilo brasileiros, e sul-americanos. Como samba, maracatu, axé, forró, salsa, e quando vc estuda tantos ritmos pode notar que usar certas técnicas deles no metal ajuda a clarear as ideias e notas e controlar o tempo. Entao logo o musico que se abre a outros estilos diferentes aprende técnicas que melhoram sua personalidade.
    Talvez o que tenha faltado em jay é um tempo na América do Sul, estudando com nossos brothers sul-americanos

  • @technoalah
    @technoalah 7 днів тому +1

    Both amazing, Jey style better.

  • @aka_ghxst
    @aka_ghxst 3 дні тому

    Ahhh, we now finally get to see an actual drummer play Jay’s parts. It’s interesting tho that he seems to jam WAYYY more to Joey’s parts than Jay’s when he plays them. Me too.

  • @SaiyanCherry
    @SaiyanCherry 6 днів тому +2

    Well me being a guitar player only thing I can really tell is Eloy plays very hard

  • @francopisciotta9598
    @francopisciotta9598 3 дні тому

    Jay es un excelente baterista, no fue poca cosa llenar el espacio que dejó Joey pero Eloy es un animal tocando. Creo que mas alla de la técnica (ambos son excelentes) Eloy tiene una personalidad y energía que van justo con el momento que esta atravesando Slipknot actualmente

  • @johnwilliam6129
    @johnwilliam6129 6 днів тому

    A diferença entre o eloy e o jay é a técnica absurda. Eloy consegue tocar no exato tom original da música sem firula. Porém não podemos dizer o mesmo do jay.

  • @TheSentinel909
    @TheSentinel909 День тому

    People are paying attention to the strenght and power of Eloy - when they should be listening for the tempo. Jay is doing the (quite common) thing of rushing in a live setting. Eloy is like a human fucking metronome - so steady (while smacking the BEJESUS outta the drums).

  • @christclinger6540
    @christclinger6540 6 днів тому +2

    All this comparison talk is kind of interesting. Eloy is technically a better player. But let’s reserve our judgment until they start making music. It’s way easier to play other people’s hits than it is to write your own. Jay helped revive this band by writing a lot of good songs with slipknot. Let’s see what Eloy can do.

    • @EversonBernardes
      @EversonBernardes 6 днів тому

      Eloy's writing is a known quantity, tho - just listen to Sepultura's Quadra. It spans the whole spectrum of sounds Sepultura had through their career, from death metal through thrash to groove. The drumming of that album is beastly from start to end, and all of it in service of the songs. Complex yet tasteful parts, simple when needed, super intricate when called for.
      And groovy AF.

    • @MrJSyer
      @MrJSyer 4 дні тому +1

      @@EversonBernardes I was about to mention Quadra. Great album.

  • @truescotsman4103
    @truescotsman4103 7 днів тому +4

    Both of these guys get a ton of respect. I have to say Jay plays so fucking smoothly I think I like his feel better. Mor dynamic and subtle attention to nuance where Eloy is just all out all the time.

  • @ainayyahamzah1483
    @ainayyahamzah1483 7 днів тому

    Eloy the best drum in teh world. I like slipknot eloy.

  • @caiovictor405
    @caiovictor405 8 днів тому

    Heyyyyy! 🔥

  • @augustoalves4939
    @augustoalves4939 7 днів тому

    Comparar o Eloy com qualquer um, é covardia

  • @fuadfarah4269
    @fuadfarah4269 7 днів тому

    Eloy é um monstro

  • @RASECTSU-IX
    @RASECTSU-IX 6 днів тому

    Jay parece disfrutar cuando toca 🤘Eloy parece autómata sin cero emoción😶

  • @thearrival5713
    @thearrival5713 3 дні тому

    Jay toca como um humano.
    Eloy toca como um 👽👹

  • @robertward6813
    @robertward6813 7 днів тому

    Eloys pace is alot smoother without a doubt. Both great but I think we all know who is proving to be a better fit.

  • @Kalavinka623
    @Kalavinka623 6 днів тому +1

    It’ll be interesting how Eloy’s body holds up playing and touring like that

    • @BrianGiuffre
      @BrianGiuffre 5 днів тому

      He did it for over a decade with Sepultura, dudes beefy for a reason

    • @MrJSyer
      @MrJSyer 4 дні тому

      Dude played with Sepultura for a long time. He can keep that energy for a year like a nuclear powerplant

  • @RugoGaming
    @RugoGaming 6 днів тому

    1:44 Clean AF

  • @EricPatton-NC
    @EricPatton-NC 5 днів тому

    Eloy in a league of his own.

  • @guilhermemourasurfskate8923
    @guilhermemourasurfskate8923 6 днів тому

    Absurda a diferença. Jay parace uma criança errando o tempo dos padais perto do Eloy.

  • @nickvtguitar546
    @nickvtguitar546 5 днів тому

    Eloy is awesome, although I do like a bit of tempo excitement, I think Joey had that and Eloy could afford to allow himself a bit.

  • @joaquimpattonpuig3326
    @joaquimpattonpuig3326 8 днів тому +15

    Eloi is another level 🤘🏻

  • @ultranumb21
    @ultranumb21 5 днів тому

    Jay makes it look so smooth, hence that he's a jazz drummer. Eloy plays like he fuckin hates it

  • @Tibchy91
    @Tibchy91 7 днів тому

    I was saying it long time ago, when everybody was busy comparing Joey and Jay... Jay was too "sterile" for SlipKnot. Eloy has that extra juice the band needed.

  • @FelipeBorgesDrums
    @FelipeBorgesDrums 7 днів тому

    No comparison..eloy is the ultimate killer drummer 🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @dallasslim1838
    @dallasslim1838 7 днів тому

    Loved Jay but damn ELOY fkn kills!!!!!

  • @erickjoseblandonalvarado5119
    @erickjoseblandonalvarado5119 3 дні тому

    Para mí no hay comparación. Jay toca bien limpio y elegante. Eloy solo le da agresividad y eso no es todo.

  • @theumeus
    @theumeus День тому

    Are Vans the best drumming shoes?

  • @alexandrekiyan5541
    @alexandrekiyan5541 8 днів тому

    Chama!!

  • @pablomarques4228
    @pablomarques4228 8 днів тому

    Eloy é bizarro

  • @fofopho
    @fofopho 3 дні тому

    Eloy is so damn good

  • @headless0ptomist198
    @headless0ptomist198 4 дні тому

    One of the rare occasions where the someone plays something better than the person who created it, Jay is a great drummer but he just didn't play with the intensity and ferocity a band like them needs and it reflected in their first show with Eloy.

  • @watchroll3310
    @watchroll3310 7 днів тому

    Jay Is great and Eloy even better

  • @GustavoAbreu229
    @GustavoAbreu229 4 дні тому

    eloy MUITO superior, sem comparaçao

  • @AllanAlmeida-jd4zx
    @AllanAlmeida-jd4zx 7 днів тому

    Não dá nem pra comparação .....

  • @Xmenjade
    @Xmenjade 6 днів тому

    Eloy: this isnt hard/fun enough for me let me add in 50 ghostnotes in every beat because i can

  • @garydobbs5159
    @garydobbs5159 5 днів тому

    I’ll take Jay

  • @flauzarodrigues766
    @flauzarodrigues766 5 днів тому

    Eloy casagrande 👏👏👏👏

  • @veryguto
    @veryguto 6 днів тому

    Puuuuuta sacanagem!

  • @cliffordangeles79
    @cliffordangeles79 4 дні тому

    clean vs aggressive

  • @dansando9236
    @dansando9236 8 днів тому +12

    Cara, esses vídeos de comparações editam o áudio original dos vídeos do Jay, removendo a banda de fundo consequentemente remove muitas notas que o Jay faz. Eloy é muito superior, mas esse canal sacaneia editando os áudios do Jay. Não é tão sujo e sem peso assim nos vídeos originais

    • @brenoLenares-yv9jv
      @brenoLenares-yv9jv 8 днів тому

      Notei isso no vídeo comparação de Eyeless, fez parecer que o pedal do Jay é todo troncho

    • @TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw
      @TiagoCarvalho-ht9vw 8 днів тому +6

      A intenção de todos esses vídeos de comparações é justamente rebaixar o Jay e babarem o Eloy. Galera já entendeu que isso tá dando view. Anos atrás o Jay era dito ser um bom substituto do Joey, hoje geral trata o cara como se não tivesse existido. Vai entender.

    • @sonoobgameplays926
      @sonoobgameplays926 8 днів тому

      manda o link do video original sem edição ai

    • @jorginhot12
      @jorginhot12 8 днів тому +5

      man pior q n editam.... exemplo esse video mesmo do jay no video aqui ouve do 1:30 ao 1:34 vai ve q parece q deu uma travana nos bumbo com a caixa
      ja no link coloca no 2:15 e vai ate o 2:19 vai ve q tbm acontece isso.
      ua-cam.com/video/hfXUQuQV-4o/v-deo.html&ab_channel=AvedisZildjianCompany
      e no video anterior o foco principal era o pedal duplo q é de 15seg de duração jay faz 10seg de bumbo duplo e depois parte pros toms nas 2x pois n aguenta, ja o eloy faz igual ao album da banda os 15seg as 2x.
      eu sou fã dos 2 pra mim cada um tem seu estilo e seus meritos, mas o cara do canal n esta alterando som do jay pra parecer pior....

    • @sonoobgameplays926
      @sonoobgameplays926 8 днів тому +3

      @@jorginhot12 vlw pela informação man, o cara lá diz que é editado mas não mostra prova alguma, eu n percebi edição alguma para ''piorar'' o Jay, agora tenho certeza que não tá editado
      .

  • @predtr18
    @predtr18 5 днів тому

    Jay 100%

  • @fekohut
    @fekohut 5 днів тому

    Eloy hits his drum like it owns him money

  • @a57el
    @a57el 5 днів тому

    eloy casagrande would be such a cool drummer if he was able to do fucking traditional blasts

  • @FuggYew666
    @FuggYew666 7 днів тому

    Those 👻 notes.

  • @6stringsEasy
    @6stringsEasy 4 дні тому

    Джой вот кто был лучшим!

  • @rafaelnovais5319
    @rafaelnovais5319 8 днів тому

    Um tocando parece uma criança o outro parece um viking.

  • @stonedav23
    @stonedav23 6 днів тому

    Everybody wanting to be on their knees, open their mouths and wait impatient for casagrande