I'm personally happy it has "Against the Odds" in the title so it's possible to search for this video in the future. Could have used "Against the Otters" in the thumbnail though.
Seth! Please do a sequel to the simic land burn deck. I have been playing it in sultai with season of weaving, iridescent vinelasher, and clifftop lookout, and the deck seems insane now. Vinelasher completely changes the math when you combo off. Season is amazing too as a flexable boardwipe +synergy with all your tokens. Would love to see your take!
My central air AC broke. I put in a window one, but it's loud so I try to keep it off while recording. They are supposed to have my new central air one in next week thankfully.
Shouldn't you have been able to respond to removal on Insidious Roots by tapping the otters for mana and then casting more instants in response in some cases? That may have let you dig for another Roots given you have enough mana
@@casteanpreswyn7528 It is not pronounced both ways. Check any dictionary and you'll find only "kash". The word that's pronounced "cash-ay" is "cachet" (meaning prestige or cred) or the french word caché (with an accent mark, meaning "hidden") Also, obviously, in this case "cache grab" is a pun on the common expression "cash grab" which is sort of lost if you pronounce it like "cachet".
I think you’re factually incorrect? Dictionaries are descriptive, and will list all common pronunciations, and none of the ones I can find include Seth’s pronunciation. Closest is Wiktionary, which includes it only to say it’s proscribed (i.e. it’s not only not a standard pronunciation, it’s specifically forbidden by some authorities or experts).
idk, seems kinda bad to me. If you're already storming off then it's a useless distraction. If it's supposed to be a backup roots then it's a bad one, you only get to tap it once and then don't get credit for more otters coming in after that. It only maybe helps a little bit when you're trying to do stuff in response to roots getting bounced. Definitely seems more like a card for fair decks (well, as fair as Nykthos ever is).
I have been messing with an otterly ridiculous deck since the moment I realized Otters (my favorite animal) were featured in this set. So I am HIGHLY curious to see how YOU did it because I am sure it's better than how I did it lol
I've had a lot of fun with this. Gets to be difficult to impossible to manipulate cards on mobile when draw too many. And i have trouble telling what is exiled to play as adventure side vs creature side
i think playing the pitiless carnage later would be better in some of these games so you can sacrifice more otter tokens, especially tapped ones as well instead of just banking on the lands
That's an interesting combo, although I don't expect a 2-card combo deck with no tutors to be able to win very consistently. Maybe the deck could use Beseech the Mirror? Although the deck doesn't have a ton of stuff to bargain, and it is kind of straining the mana base.
@@DiscardatRandom yeah but that forces you to be all in on the combo bc of all the cards....if you take my approach you get to build into control with combo finish like old splinter twin. only 12 cards required are storm splitters molten duplication twinferno. and the rest can be dedicated to boardwipes and control cards
The problem with this deck is it's a turn 5 combo deck in a format going to be defined by aggro decks. So either you add 4-8 kill spells and/or sweepers to the main deck, or lose.
I got one for you, have you tried redoing jeskai ascendancy tokens from 8 years ago with valley floodcaller and stoke the flames in standard now? More otters.
It would be nice to see Seth replay decks outside of the prerelease stream... its a bummer to think that the only time he touches that storm otter is during an unaccurate meta
I feel the exact opposite about the no scoop rule. It's there do that you can do the crazy over the top stuff you never get to do normally. Token limit us up at least once next time!
Hey Seth, It's easier to understand what's going on in the game when you use default art. Since I can't just hover a card (and sometimes the text isn't legible even if I would know the card by name), I have to recognize the card by its art. Using default art increases the chance that I'll recognize the art, and thus understand the card/field/etc.
@@AgentFransis No I can't. Like everyone else, I'm doing 3 other things while watching youtube, not waiting to REGULARLY PAUSE THE VIDEO before cards hit the field.
I mean, he breaks down the deck and names/explains the cards at the start of every video...? And usually says what he's playing as he plays it...? Alt art is a nice treat, for most. Plus, in this case he's just going nuts because it's a VIP account.
@@brownout100 Let's say I pay full attention to the intro and don't just skip it for the game play. Let's also say in the middle of the game, I turn away from work to see the board state, and see card art on the board that wasn't in the intro. How did watching the intro help...
when recording do you ever have someone you know queue for matches so that you might play each other and be able to show off the combo without opponent scooping?
"I think its one of the best aggro sets we've had in a long time" Seeing as aggro has been overpowered to absolute shit since luminarch aspirant and probably even before, that sentence really gives the whole "standard is dead" chant a lot more weight.
So glad that I managed to pull a copy of Stormsplitter! I put him into a Grixis plot deck and every time I've played him so far is so satisfying. I've also seen some salt-roping when I'm down to 2 or 3 life then combo with plotted cards and suddenly have 8 or 16 pumped Stormsplitters on the board 😆
Awesome video! Seth, do you believe some Ping-focused strategy with Lizards can work for an Against the Odds? I can see two routes for it, Rakdos with Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin, and others in Mardu with Delney / Taii Waken / Roaming Throne 🖤🤍❤
Typically its either to float the mana in case of interaction, or to ensure that he sources the colored mana from the right sources to avoid pinging himself with pain lands, Sometimes its just Seth habits though
Love the deck but I wish he would do these on ranked ladder instead of early access. Really hard to tell how good it can be when everyone else is playing random stuff. Awesome Seth nonsense as usual though!
okay, this is quit cool. now though i actually havnt seen any one build fully around roots, moste of the time i see it, its in the deck because the deck generates a lot of tokens, and giving the creature tokens even more use, other than attack/block, is really good. heck i won a game earlier because of roots. i do love to see these against the odds decks, 'cause i often start thinking "can i make this work in brawl." and yeah this is one you can, and BOY, since brawl has both paralle lives and doubling season, this otter storm deck could be quit fun. thanks for the video Seth
Thank you, Seth, for actually being creative in the event and for the prep you put into streaming. This creator event was about the most boring. "Oh, another kindred deck with a pile of cards with prescriptive synergies that you clumsily assembled on stream with no preparation. How insightful."
I understand it to a degree but I honestly don't think sacrificing all lands ever resulted in a significant enough benefit than just sacrificing one or two fewer lands, and thus making the deck more capable of still continuing the combo. Rarely did you draw 5 cards and not find something that could have continued the combo if you had just drawn 3 instead.
The thing is, if you whiff the combo, you're probably dead, this is not a Quick combo in terms of board state and resources, preserving the lands rarely presents more than a nominal chance of recovering, and often none at all since usually loss of combo comes from killing the Insidious Roots and that means you have no dig power left anyway Once you've committed to devouring lands you often have no reason to not go all the way, since this is usually on a four or five land board where eating even one means you're not rebuilding state for a few turns
'Against the Otters" is a missed title opportunity
Otterly unwatchable smh
We even were against the otters in the video.
It’s an otter slaughter
Otter chaos, as well,.
I'm personally happy it has "Against the Odds" in the title so it's possible to search for this video in the future. Could have used "Against the Otters" in the thumbnail though.
I love how “cash-eh grab” totally circumvents the pun
chachééé yeah you're right
(cash grab is how they intended it to be pronounced, in case it isn't obvious)
@@xxPow3rslave ngl, this probably annoyed me way more than it should've XD
I just realized Seth's first opponent who was annihilated by 35 Stormsplitters was top 8er and slogurk enjoyer Jason Ye.
Jason put together their own stormsplitter deck with beseech the mirror so I enjoy that they also got to experience losing to it
This is not the only video top 4er from Pro Tour Nadu Jason Ye has been in from the early access collection, I notice its name every time.
also as far as i can tell, he was playing seths jeskai land destruction deck, and seth didnt even realize xd
That's part of the fun of early access day! You get to play against all kinds of pros and content creators.
Certified cash-eh moment
you can say a lot, but at least he is consistant.
He sure likes cash, eh?
@@RasmusVJS He does Eh?
@@GuyFromCanadaI trust your opinion, it carries a lot of cachet.
That's not very cachet money of you
"You have new god now, opponent. It's Stormsplitter." Is a hard as hell line
Yes I came to make sure this epic line is getting the love it deserved!
That goes super hard 😂
Only for weird edge lords
Seth! Please do a sequel to the simic land burn deck. I have been playing it in sultai with season of weaving, iridescent vinelasher, and clifftop lookout, and the deck seems insane now. Vinelasher completely changes the math when you combo off. Season is amazing too as a flexable boardwipe +synergy with all your tokens. Would love to see your take!
Yeah, we'll revisit it (or something similar) for sure.
That sound's awesome! Do you have a list I could see?
Seth accidentally plotting that highway robbery was fcking hilarious
I'd like to petition to change the name of this deck to "Splitter Twin"
Technically, this is Jund in standard.
Jund is a standard power level deck now.
Lost it laughing at the "You have a new god now, it's storm splitter"
Cashe grab 😂 I’m starting a drinking game to do shots when Seth mispronounces a word
Thats how you die
Smart way to get comments lol
Hello Alcohol Poisoning. RIP your liver.
The term you were looking for there was "Exponential growth."
And this time it's actually exponential! This ain't linear, quadratic, cubic... it's truly exponential :)
@@rookermtg9321 I prefer to call it "Sick" but I am an 80s kid.
The early access Insidious Roots deck I saw during attack on cardboard's stream was odd. This looks like the right idea!
16:45 That's a "Look at me, I'm the Otters now!" kinda turn of events.
"Opponent needs to blow up The Roots."
*Jazz music stops
He drew all four Karplusian Forests IN A ROW! (The fourth got milled, but, still, that's one hell of a land pocket!)
Saint Saffron needs a room ac unit, i'm sweating just watching this man. lol
My central air AC broke. I put in a window one, but it's loud so I try to keep it off while recording. They are supposed to have my new central air one in next week thankfully.
@@MTGGoldfish It's been boiling where i am and we have no AC. So, we were in a virtual sauna together. lol
I know how much you wanted to test and break this card, and you did it in such a fun way. Thank you for this moment 😂
Shouldn't you have been able to respond to removal on Insidious Roots by tapping the otters for mana and then casting more instants in response in some cases? That may have let you dig for another Roots given you have enough mana
Game 2 really was “Combo decks are not allowed in Standard. Mickey Mouse Tribal is going to take you to the House of Mouse!”
This was amazing. You've inspired me to make a Stormsplitter commander deck 😁
I love these splitter twin decks. I think the grixis version that loops beseech the mirror is better
Damn that "cash-eh" annunciation was lovely bogan. A very fun video whenever Otters are involved.
I'm here for some "otter" madness!
I'll show myself out
Can't you respond to into the flash maw by tapping tokens for b/g, then replaying it? especially at 29:12
its cache grab, seth, not cachet grab. cache like cash, cash grab!
It bugs me so much! Such a pet peeve of mine.
It's pronounced both ways. Neither is inherently correct.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 It is not pronounced both ways. Check any dictionary and you'll find only "kash". The word that's pronounced "cash-ay" is "cachet" (meaning prestige or cred) or the french word caché (with an accent mark, meaning "hidden") Also, obviously, in this case "cache grab" is a pun on the common expression "cash grab" which is sort of lost if you pronounce it like "cachet".
@@normative yes, it is. You're factually incorrect.
I think you’re factually incorrect?
Dictionaries are descriptive, and will list all common pronunciations, and none of the ones I can find include Seth’s pronunciation. Closest is Wiktionary, which includes it only to say it’s proscribed (i.e. it’s not only not a standard pronunciation, it’s specifically forbidden by some authorities or experts).
Seth, you could have tapped your untapped otter and plant to add green and black to replay your insidious roots when the bounces it
happy the audio is fixed great video
Yeah, pretty wild deck TBH. The storm count is insane.
Cachet Grab would be a cool card name in a Capenna-like set
seth, you could put in beseech the mirror, thats usually 4 spells by itself
The way jim davis did it was with beseech + reenact the crime
8:26 Check it out Bart, Splinter Twin plants! Remember Splinter Twin? It's back! In plant form.
the coolest part is that you can combo at instant speed to counter something like a scurry oak combo
I was actually thinking about this combo with Sorcerer Class, completely forgot Insidious Roots existed.
This video was an otter delight
Whatd be funny is three tree city that nykthos to tap for a million in this case
XD
Maybe try it out next time
idk, seems kinda bad to me. If you're already storming off then it's a useless distraction. If it's supposed to be a backup roots then it's a bad one, you only get to tap it once and then don't get credit for more otters coming in after that. It only maybe helps a little bit when you're trying to do stuff in response to roots getting bounced. Definitely seems more like a card for fair decks (well, as fair as Nykthos ever is).
I have been messing with an otterly ridiculous deck since the moment I realized Otters (my favorite animal) were featured in this set. So I am HIGHLY curious to see how YOU did it because I am sure it's better than how I did it lol
Thanks for the video.
I've had a lot of fun with this. Gets to be difficult to impossible to manipulate cards on mobile when draw too many.
And i have trouble telling what is exiled to play as adventure side vs creature side
i think playing the pitiless carnage later would be better in some of these games so you can sacrifice more otter tokens, especially tapped ones as well instead of just banking on the lands
Nice new deck for early access Krokeyz.
That's an interesting combo, although I don't expect a 2-card combo deck with no tutors to be able to win very consistently. Maybe the deck could use Beseech the Mirror? Although the deck doesn't have a ton of stuff to bargain, and it is kind of straining the mana base.
Bargain a Stormsplitter token
You missed the "Oh my God; it's Lightning Helix!" moment.
I cant express enough how much rage i feel hearing it pronounced "cash-ay" when the pun is RIGHT THERE.
Will Much Abrew or Against the Odds ever try out the Heartfire Hero + Pump Spell + Callous Sellsword fling combo?
It’s been done w/ the goblin.
@@pedrobianchi2412 the goblin is much worse than the mouse in that regard. With Monstrous Rage it can deal up to 15 damage on turn 2
I wonder if you could run this with Valley Floodcaller as a 4C deck and untap your tokens and grow them rather than sac your lands.
seth you want molten duplication and twinferno to copy the molten duplication copying SS and making tons of tokens
Thoughts on frolicking familiar?
I dont understand the basic plaisn joke at 19:30
The lynx punishes players for using non-basics
Storm lets goooooo
No Beseech the Mirror? That think goes off with stormsplitter....
molten duplication is way better 😅
@@zigzag2370 no its not beseech the mirror finds storm splinter
@@DiscardatRandom yeah but that forces you to be all in on the combo bc of all the cards....if you take my approach you get to build into control with combo finish like old splinter twin. only 12 cards required are storm splitters molten duplication twinferno. and the rest can be dedicated to boardwipes and control cards
@@zigzag2370 then you are running a bunch of bad cards in a control deck you end up getting the worst of both worlds
Unforgotterble deck.
The problem with this deck is it's a turn 5 combo deck in a format going to be defined by aggro decks. So either you add 4-8 kill spells and/or sweepers to the main deck, or lose.
I got one for you, have you tried redoing jeskai ascendancy tokens from 8 years ago with valley floodcaller and stoke the flames in standard now? More otters.
Gotta grab that cache with cachet
Insidious Otter Storm is right! Wow
It would be nice to see Seth replay decks outside of the prerelease stream... its a bummer to think that the only time he touches that storm otter is during an unaccurate meta
Scutestorm is pretty cool
Should add in one devilish valet for fun
I've been testing a beesech the mirror version I've been liking
I feel the exact opposite about the no scoop rule. It's there do that you can do the crazy over the top stuff you never get to do normally. Token limit us up at least once next time!
Ok I live the tapping otters for mana so I am trying this version
Otter Fling, ya pump it up, hit and fling with Slickshot
Will you come back to this deck now that the meta has settled?
Hey Seth, It's easier to understand what's going on in the game when you use default art. Since I can't just hover a card (and sometimes the text isn't legible even if I would know the card by name), I have to recognize the card by its art. Using default art increases the chance that I'll recognize the art, and thus understand the card/field/etc.
A valid point, but you can also just pause to read the card when it's on the stack.
@@AgentFransis No I can't. Like everyone else, I'm doing 3 other things while watching youtube, not waiting to REGULARLY PAUSE THE VIDEO before cards hit the field.
I mean, he breaks down the deck and names/explains the cards at the start of every video...? And usually says what he's playing as he plays it...?
Alt art is a nice treat, for most. Plus, in this case he's just going nuts because it's a VIP account.
@@brownout100 Let's say I pay full attention to the intro and don't just skip it for the game play. Let's also say in the middle of the game, I turn away from work to see the board state, and see card art on the board that wasn't in the intro. How did watching the intro help...
when recording do you ever have someone you know queue for matches so that you might play each other and be able to show off the combo without opponent scooping?
Seems like a good beseech the mirror deck if you can pay the black mana cause you can keep looping thek so easily
so... Ral, Crackling Wit when? I want to see that ultimate.
"I think its one of the best aggro sets we've had in a long time"
Seeing as aggro has been overpowered to absolute shit since luminarch aspirant and probably even before, that sentence really gives the whole "standard is dead" chant a lot more weight.
Well, I now have Alice Merton’s song “No Roots” stuck in my head.
~I am the storm that is apppprrrroooooooaching
awesome deck, awesome games.
I'm such a Richard. I wasn't excited for this until i found out it was jund
i like big black flyers and i cannot lie
8:26 more like splitter twig
I love music from Johnny Cache
Otters... I'm in!
I want to see this in Modern.
You cannot have one combo piece without the otter.
That is otterly ridiculous.
So glad that I managed to pull a copy of Stormsplitter! I put him into a Grixis plot deck and every time I've played him so far is so satisfying. I've also seen some salt-roping when I'm down to 2 or 3 life then combo with plotted cards and suddenly have 8 or 16 pumped Stormsplitters on the board 😆
Can't spell slaughter without otter.
I feel like the strongest tribes in bloom burrow standers are mice and lizards
Awesome video! Seth, do you believe some Ping-focused strategy with Lizards can work for an Against the Odds?
I can see two routes for it, Rakdos with Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin, and others in Mardu with Delney / Taii Waken / Roaming Throne 🖤🤍❤
Why does he manually tap the insidious root mana every time he’s comboing?
Typically its either to float the mana in case of interaction, or to ensure that he sources the colored mana from the right sources to avoid pinging himself with pain lands, Sometimes its just Seth habits though
Love the deck but I wish he would do these on ranked ladder instead of early access. Really hard to tell how good it can be when everyone else is playing random stuff. Awesome Seth nonsense as usual though!
okay, this is quit cool. now though i actually havnt seen any one build fully around roots, moste of the time i see it, its in the deck because the deck generates a lot of tokens, and giving the creature tokens even more use, other than attack/block, is really good. heck i won a game earlier because of roots.
i do love to see these against the odds decks, 'cause i often start thinking "can i make this work in brawl." and yeah this is one you can, and BOY, since brawl has both paralle lives and doubling season, this otter storm deck could be quit fun.
thanks for the video Seth
If it's cool, why quit?
Thank you, Seth, for actually being creative in the event and for the prep you put into streaming. This creator event was about the most boring. "Oh, another kindred deck with a pile of cards with prescriptive synergies that you clumsily assembled on stream with no preparation. How insightful."
"Fog of war"
Was the most otters in the history of magic something like 5 otters before this video?
This is seriously getting ottercontol 😂🤣
please include the format in the video title 🥺
I was wondering why the server was lagging so bad
death via otter
I understand it to a degree but I honestly don't think sacrificing all lands ever resulted in a significant enough benefit than just sacrificing one or two fewer lands, and thus making the deck more capable of still continuing the combo. Rarely did you draw 5 cards and not find something that could have continued the combo if you had just drawn 3 instead.
The thing is, if you whiff the combo, you're probably dead, this is not a Quick combo in terms of board state and resources, preserving the lands rarely presents more than a nominal chance of recovering, and often none at all since usually loss of combo comes from killing the Insidious Roots and that means you have no dig power left anyway
Once you've committed to devouring lands you often have no reason to not go all the way, since this is usually on a four or five land board where eating even one means you're not rebuilding state for a few turns
This deck is budget right?
i've noticed that you can only look at graveyards on your priority. which is dumb
They still haven't fixed the graveyard issue. I guess they needed to lay off the QA staff to artificially make more money...
"Splitter" twin
Stormsplitter is just Scute Storm
this isnt splinter storm 2.0, this is spellcaster scute swarm