Ahh does it do that now? I remember when your ship’s speed didn’t matter and going too fast resulted in the torp blowing up immediately after launch. 😂 I’m going to have to try it!
@@maxdoesntsurrender6642 noise** is literally a decoy of a ship. It's like if you spawned another ship with its own CS and EM signature when you launch them edit**: was a decoy
@@SickPrid3decoy works against em guidance. Flare works against ir guidance. Nothing counters cs except reduced cs which is a property of the shape of the object. CS missiles are easier to evade with maneuver however thus preserving balance. That's the intention anyway, however due to bugs, sometimes ir missiles like these torps won't be misguided by countermeasures. And often at close ranges they will simply not miss. Stealth is also not working as intended so even this video doesn't really show the eclipse as intended
@@berryrareguy Yeah, size 9 torbs flying backwards, despawn after the half range, cant shoot, cant rearm or wrong armament information. It is not only one game breaking bug, there are dozens only for this one specific gameplay. The mAcHiNe.
I wish they would let us turn off the internal lights. I perfered the eclipse when it was bugged and the switches were dark. At least let us dim them so that they dont overpower the scenery.
Once stealth is far more fleshed out it will be a thinking mans game, currently the meta is lock on, get your speed up on the pass, get as close as possible before firing (2.8km-3km) and get out. I've seen skilled pilots drop 2 before RTB. Also once shields are fully charged they can be left on its the recharge that reveals you, and if you're hit by then anyway you will already be revealed and hopefully on your way out. That being said you can line up the perfect shot and within the best kill range and still miss in pvp. PVE you can hit em from 7km out with velocity because they just sit there
Love the idea of Eclipse fleets taking runs at a capital ship in space. A majority of them not making it to see another day. But a few breaking past defenses and taking out the mothership
finally someone actually using torpedoes as it should be used, long range, shoot and go shoot and go. people pay ships 250e to play them like a titan with missile.
Honestly, AFAIK it is pointless to switch off your shields etc., as what counts is the largest of the three signatures, which was cross section in your case, I believe. And you cannot turn that one off. :) Also don't count on staying undetected if someone ping-scans you. You will be revealed for a while.
CS doesn't work well yet and stealth isn't working right either. Depends on the patch but em and ir will reveal you faster than cs. You can see this by testing against NPCs as they will pick you up closer if you don't go dark. However, it always seems to go back and forth due to endless bugs
I love watching Eclipse gameplay, what missiles/components do you use? I find your voice to be very soothing. (English is not my first language, I am sorry( Have a great day!
I was using the default load out for the Eclipse but ended up later switching in Seeker 9s for a faster torpedo speed! Definitely check them out. Thanks for watching.
What discerns the lock from remaining big, spread out, and red - such as that at 2:35 - as opposed to the much tighter, green lock? I run Seeker IXs and sometimes feel like they just never lock. I’ll lock into my target from maximum arming range and even get in close, even past minimum arming range, and nothing. This is a common occurrence it feels like for me :(
As much as people say Seekers are better, I also haven’t had much luck with them either. But also, torps are at the whim of server FPS… keep experimenting! Curious to see what 3.20 has in store for the stealth torp game
Seekers are nerfed in alpha 3.19.1 - there’s a 50% chance they will go dumb after you lock and fire. Typhoons are a lot better, and you can basically sneak up to an NPC Hammerhead and fire from 8km out with 100% kill rate. WingTypeZero recently did a YT video on this
What is the cross section on the Eclipse? As I understand it, its the highest of three IR, EM & CS that determines your detect range, right? Ship's CS is often very high depending on how you present to the scanner. Do you know if your CS is low enough to make killing all your systems necessary? I fly a Ghost and am waiting (impatiently at times) for the stealth mechanics to actually be in play. Armor as well. The indicator in the center there is your CS. See how much larger it is than your IR? Take a look with your shields up and see how they compare. If the CS is still the same size or larger, there is no benefit to powering down systems... yet! Coming Soon!(tm) liked and subscribed
Chaff doesn't protect from all missile types. IR missiles will get fooled by Decoy. EM missiles will get fooled by Noise. CS missiles will ignore countermeasures and target the cross section of the ship. Only way to escape those is well timed evasive maneuvers.
Yeah it is stupid expensive but does come in handy as the Leeroy Jenkins-mobile. 3 torps is so limited but I can see in a large scale battle scenario where a couple of theses are docked 50km out until called upon to quickly take out large threats.
@@berryrareguy It was sttopped right ? xD A small ship like a gladius can avoid missiles just by fliying with the CPLD off... Torpedoes are just for BIG ships Lol
Bro you want to show us how to successfully attack with an Eclipse but all you did was doing everything wrong and die 😂 I don’t need a tutorial for that
you want to fly as fast as possible before shooting the torp so it inherits your ship velocity otherwise it will get flared before its even close
Ahh does it do that now? I remember when your ship’s speed didn’t matter and going too fast resulted in the torp blowing up immediately after launch. 😂 I’m going to have to try it!
Flaring won't work against these particular torpedoes. These are cross-section torps so won't be distracted by flairs.
@@maxdoesntsurrender6642 noise** is literally a decoy of a ship. It's like if you spawned another ship with its own CS and EM signature when you launch them
edit**: was a decoy
@@SickPrid3decoy works against em guidance. Flare works against ir guidance. Nothing counters cs except reduced cs which is a property of the shape of the object. CS missiles are easier to evade with maneuver however thus preserving balance. That's the intention anyway, however due to bugs, sometimes ir missiles like these torps won't be misguided by countermeasures. And often at close ranges they will simply not miss. Stealth is also not working as intended so even this video doesn't really show the eclipse as intended
@@cmdrls212 you;re wrong
This ship is the whole reason I started to play SC
Me too man!!! She's amazing
It’s a god damn atm machine when it comes to bounties
@@berryrareguy Yeah, size 9 torbs flying backwards, despawn after the half range, cant shoot, cant rearm or wrong armament information. It is not only one game breaking bug, there are dozens only for this one specific gameplay. The mAcHiNe.
7:35
*very calmly*: "There you go. [...also worth it.]"
xD
idk why that struck me x'D
Big tower-dive energy lol
cheers
I wish they would let us turn off the internal lights. I perfered the eclipse when it was bugged and the switches were dark.
At least let us dim them so that they dont overpower the scenery.
One can dream. Also looking forward to night vision tech
Honestly by experiencing this? I'm definitely buying this game!
It’s only going to get better my friend
Stuff like this might not be possible after the flight model/ship changes in 3.23. Best read up on it.
sorry but flashlights on stealth gameplays triggers me hard :D
Damn, I never noticed before but the spotlights on the ship shine 2km+ at the start of the video. Insane lol
Once stealth is far more fleshed out it will be a thinking mans game, currently the meta is lock on, get your speed up on the pass, get as close as possible before firing (2.8km-3km) and get out. I've seen skilled pilots drop 2 before RTB. Also once shields are fully charged they can be left on its the recharge that reveals you, and if you're hit by then anyway you will already be revealed and hopefully on your way out. That being said you can line up the perfect shot and within the best kill range and still miss in pvp.
PVE you can hit em from 7km out with velocity because they just sit there
Love the idea of Eclipse fleets taking runs at a capital ship in space. A majority of them not making it to see another day. But a few breaking past defenses and taking out the mothership
@@berryrareguy Eclipse Fleet with Stealth Fighters as escorts, the so called front line won't know what hits them!
finally someone actually using torpedoes as it should be used, long range, shoot and go shoot and go. people pay ships 250e to play them like a titan with missile.
Honestly, AFAIK it is pointless to switch off your shields etc., as what counts is the largest of the three signatures, which was cross section in your case, I believe. And you cannot turn that one off. :) Also don't count on staying undetected if someone ping-scans you. You will be revealed for a while.
Agree. The best strategy is probably to get in, launch close, and and GTFO of there ASAP
CS doesn't work well yet and stealth isn't working right either. Depends on the patch but em and ir will reveal you faster than cs. You can see this by testing against NPCs as they will pick you up closer if you don't go dark. However, it always seems to go back and forth due to endless bugs
nice vid, no ones friendly at ghost hollow tho
I made a friend at Ghost Hollow once. Held it down just the two of us until he shot me in the back of the head
@@berryrareguyrip
Well, that's a very...berry... thing. 👍
i like the music in sc
You have your front lights on lol. I'd b3 able to spot you
Amazing gameplay and footage! Love it!
I love watching Eclipse gameplay, what missiles/components do you use? I find your voice to be very soothing.
(English is not my first language, I am sorry(
Have a great day!
I was using the default load out for the Eclipse but ended up later switching in Seeker 9s for a faster torpedo speed! Definitely check them out. Thanks for watching.
If Bob Ross was a star citizen pilot.
Did you get that Scorpius at the end? I think you have cos it said glitched and said "down" so I assume the usual Target Down?
Yessir! I’ve gotten better at recording since then. Will probably put out another video
What discerns the lock from remaining big, spread out, and red - such as that at 2:35 - as opposed to the much tighter, green lock? I run Seeker IXs and sometimes feel like they just never lock. I’ll lock into my target from maximum arming range and even get in close, even past minimum arming range, and nothing. This is a common occurrence it feels like for me :(
As much as people say Seekers are better, I also haven’t had much luck with them either. But also, torps are at the whim of server FPS… keep experimenting! Curious to see what 3.20 has in store for the stealth torp game
Seekers are nerfed in alpha 3.19.1 - there’s a 50% chance they will go dumb after you lock and fire. Typhoons are a lot better, and you can basically sneak up to an NPC Hammerhead and fire from 8km out with 100% kill rate. WingTypeZero recently did a YT video on this
Is terrain masking a thing? It should be
What is the cross section on the Eclipse? As I understand it, its the highest of three IR, EM & CS that determines your detect range, right? Ship's CS is often very high depending on how you present to the scanner. Do you know if your CS is low enough to make killing all your systems necessary? I fly a Ghost and am waiting (impatiently at times) for the stealth mechanics to actually be in play. Armor as well. The indicator in the center there is your CS. See how much larger it is than your IR? Take a look with your shields up and see how they compare. If the CS is still the same size or larger, there is no benefit to powering down systems... yet! Coming Soon!(tm) liked and subscribed
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Wish you could load 1 Moab on this thing
this video made me buy vanguard instead of eclipse
Sentinel I hope
The eclipse is cool in theory than in practice haha
@@berryrareguy sentinel, and 13 euro worth paing because of default ukraine twocolor.
If u fire at a 2km to 3km range its a sure hit
What makes no sense to me…. Is how do they not just chaff off the torpedo and render your entire ship useless?
Chaff doesn't protect from all missile types. IR missiles will get fooled by Decoy. EM missiles will get fooled by Noise. CS missiles will ignore countermeasures and target the cross section of the ship. Only way to escape those is well timed evasive maneuvers.
Awesome ship, but I can’t bring myself to spend so much for a ship that only has one single purpose
Yeah it is stupid expensive but does come in handy as the Leeroy Jenkins-mobile. 3 torps is so limited but I can see in a large scale battle scenario where a couple of theses are docked 50km out until called upon to quickly take out large threats.
I just bought mine last night and immediately started cranking out around 450k an hour running vhrts
@@aaronballard9119 it’s an ATM for sure
No shot any of those torps landed.
Two of them landed, but I’m shit are recording haha. I promise I’ll make a better vid
shooting the cross-section torpedoes to a gladius ? Seriously ? xD
I shot and landed a torpedo on a Nox bike once. I do not discriminate 😂
@@berryrareguy It was sttopped right ? xD A small ship like a gladius can avoid missiles just by fliying with the CPLD off... Torpedoes are just for BIG ships Lol
lol what? that was the least effort in an escape i've ever seen.
I know. I was lazy haha
Bro you want to show us how to successfully attack with an Eclipse but all you did was doing everything wrong and die 😂 I don’t need a tutorial for that
Why is your ships spotlight on if you're in a stealth bomber. Makes no sense
why i look this shit?
you hit nothing tho.. so yeah.