pretty disappointing that a lot of her explanations for some of them got cut out, maybe just for time/interest sake? but feels like whoever edited this could have been a bit less heavy handed. and why only talk about the environmental impacts for a couple of the more popular milks and not for the rest at all? like, i get that wired has some standards for how these kinds of videos get edited or something, but feels bad to see a video that's made to be informational and have so much of the information removed?
I agree I would have loved another couple minutes per milk to really talk but what's going on... I'm here to learn about the milks lol I dony mind if it's 30 mins long
I would LOVE the uncut version of this. Rosemary did amazing but I wish we could hear more about certain other alternatives. I know that the point of this video is to present as many alternatives to almond milk as possible but with insight of an expert of this caliber, and such a skilled presenter at that, I wouldn’t mind a full lecture at all.
Yeah this is really not useful at all. For instance, she doesn't elaborate on the "lipids" part for oat milk... But people might be interested to know that a glass of oat milk has as much canola oil as a serving of french fries.
this video is for the general population not for people with a background in food sci, thus not that technical. i can imagine if your speak to her at a university or via email it would be more technical. a technical video wouldn't be digestible
@@robbiecope4042 That's really not what people are asking for though. It's just weird that it's a breakdown of different plant milks but some just get a mention while others get whole explanations of environmental issues. It's just weirdly edited, because clearly she had more to say.
Hi, I agree with everyone else, it would be nice to have heard the whole of what Rosemary said. If at all possible, a fuller version of this video would be much appreciated! Thank you!
Of what I’ve tried, I think oat milk tastes the best of the plant-based milks. It is less neutral than some, but I like the flavor. It’s great in a chai latte - like drinking an oatmeal cookie.
@@itsnemosoul8398 Depends on the company. The cheap ones taste like oaty water + salt sometimes. The good ones taste creamy and rich, the one I know best is oatly.
I feel like too much of what she said was left on the cutting room floor ; ; I could listen to her go in depth about each of these milks in a longer form vid. It'd be cool to see a bit more of the process of making the milks that she made, too
Rosemary does a fantastic job with her explanations. I never realized that there were so many commercially produced milk alternatives. Please have Rose again!
its true that almond milk takes alot of water to produce, but something that should be mentioned is that despite the high water consumption of almond trees, it is still twice as water efficient as cows milk
There's also still much more environmentally friendly plant based milk choices, however. I've not really got any issue with almond milk but for this reason I don't drink it anymore since the preference between it and others is basically no different.
Lol! I've taken that a step further and have tried most of the products in my Organics/ Vegan section. Compared like products and what milks/ starches can be used for. Customers love it and slowly you'll find that they'll come to your aisle moreoften and higher up staff will notice.:)
The video didn't mention that almond milk has a lower water footprint than dairy milk. The almond trees remove and sequester CO2. Dairy cows produce a huge amount of methane which is 20-80 times more potent than CO2 for climate change. On the other hand, there are plenty of other plant milks which use less water than almond milk.
@@neuuser7071 "It really depends on the impact we care most about. Almond milk has lower greenhouse gas emissions and uses less land than soy, for example, but requires more water and results in higher eutrophication. All of the alternatives have a lower impact than dairy, but there is no clear winner on all metrics." -Our World in Data Jan 19, 2022 Link to follow.
@@4mr4goldfish4ily4 That's really it. There are videos on UA-cam that show the process. The oats that are left over can be eaten after being cooked, or added to a smoothie before mixing. Experiment to see the ratios you like best for your smoothies. This makes the oat milk basically free, other than the time needed to make it.
As someone who has been deadly allergic to milk protein for my whole life, I love seeing that plant-based milk is becoming more popular. I remember that even just 3-4 years ago I wasn't able to order a coffee at a smaller cafe because they wouldn't have any milk that I could drink. Also, I am swedish and have seen the potato milk at supermarkets but unfortunately I haven't had the chance to try it yet.
"coconut milk" refers to two completely different products - the traditional thick high fat product used in cooking, e.g. many south east Asian curries, and the less traditional dairy milk replacement, used mostly in drinks.
@@natewhitelaw3759 She did, but the way it was worded was a bit weird, sounded as if people actually drink out of the can. 😅 But as far as I know that type of coconut milk is always used for cooking.
@@thespankmyfrank you can drink it too, but it's a little thick on it's own. take a whole can and mix it with equal parts orange juice and you'll have a rlly tasty drink
We use the coconut cream/milk cans to make coconut milk for our cereal in our house. We love how creamy and fatty it is, and our tummies appreciate the no additives part
i’m so glad to see rose on wired now! i never knew how many types of milks there could be. she did a wonderful job explaining each milk and i wish her cuts were longer. we NEED more of rosemary trout!!
As someone who drinks both cow's milk and occasionally plant milk - only for flavour, which means I'm very picky - I can honestly say that hazelnut milk is the best plant milk there is. It's incredibly underrated in my opinion.
I clicked on this caused it IS Rosemary Trout & I thought this was EPICURIOUS!!! Lo & behold, it ended with WIRED!!! I thought WOW THAT'S WEIRD!!! 😂🤪😆😜🤣 like twilight zone weird!!!
My mom would make oat milk all the time when I was a kid seeing it in stores made me really happy and now it’s the only milk we really drink since other popular alternative milks she’s allergic to it’s really interesting how full circle that is
This video is MARVELOUS. I just wanted to add that it's easy to make pumpkin seed milk in a blender as well. Use plump, fresh, raw pumpkin seeds in a proportion of about 1 to 4 with water (or 1 to 3 if you want milk that's creamier). Just buzz on high speed in the blender until liquified - no filtering necessary. It tastes great chilled and used instead of cow's milk on breakfast cereal.
a lot of recent research suggests that emulsifiers can negatively impact the gut microbiome ... so i'm wondering whether the emulsifiers in oat milk are a good thing? i'm not frothing it so i don't need them. i'm otherwise pretty happy with oats
I never knew that there were so many plant based milks or that the topic was so interesting. I agree that Rosemary Trout is a fantastic name for a very attractive and classy food scientist. The video was fantastic. Thanks Wired. I would love to see more videos with Rosemary Trout (Food Scientist).
@@cjcrose8151 That makes so much sense, thank you for commenting that! Because the "attractive" bit made me cringe lmao, good to know it's her husband.
I really love that she explained some of the historical and environmental context, and the practical applications of the non-dairy milks. a lot of people don't know that non-dairy milks are as old as dairy milks or other animal milks.
It's interesting to me how Americans even try coconut juice as a healthier(?) subs for milk. Here in the place where I live, the narrative is that coconut milk is bad because it's high on saturated fat. It's widely used in tons of our cuisines and I see some healthy(?) folks start avoiding or substituting it sometimes even with dairy because they think it's healthier(again, question mark).
@@lewstone5430 I love how fresh coconut taste, but the milk is indeed off-putting if you drink it on its own. It's sweet, floral, a little bit nutty, and it gives you strong-ish savory/umami tingles which is kinda weird lol. Oh anyway IDK how boxed/processed coconut milk taste like. My mom used to grind coconut by hand and made milk out of it.
@Pinecone Archon yeah, my mom grew up with coconut in South America and loved it, but I grew up in the US and only had access when I was visiting family, this was the 80’s. It was too strong for me. I only like it in mixed drinks like piña colada’s where there’s just a hint.
I live in Brazil, and the flavors that we have in the markets are: Soy milk, costing U$1,60/L Coconut milk, costing 2,00/L Rice milk, costing U$2,00/L Oatmilk, costing U$4,00/L Cashew milk, costing U$4,20/L While cow's milk cost 1,00/L That's harder to poor people choose a plant based option over here.
If you care about the rainforest, then please buy plant milk (of those listed, soy is most nutritious, but unfortified it's not suitable as a breast milk alternative for babies).
great video! didn't realise there were so many kinds. Also appreciate the point about almond milk's water needs, though I think it's actually lower compared to cow's milk
Correct. Every plant based milk has a lower water, carbon and land-use impact than cow milk. ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/9123/production/_105755173_milk_alternatives-updated-optimised-nc.png
While they’re all better solutions than cows milk, water insecurity is a big issue in California and we probably shouldn’t be using what water we have to grow almonds. It’s also not great for the bees they use!
I wish you would have included all the info that may have been cut out. Some nuts/grains/seeds she focused on more than others. It would have been nice to see all of the info she shared.
Cashew milk is my absolute favorite so I'm disappointed they cut her off while saying almost nothing about it lol. It's very rich and creamy, imo the best replacement for making ice cream or adding to your coffee! I honestly just prefer it to dairy milk.
It is the best, but there is nothing really good to say about it 😂 it's the best because it's high in fat most similar to dairy, but has the lowest nutritional value of all non dairy milks
@@WeatherManToBe I don't think 2 grams of fat per serving is that much tbh. Much lower calorie than whole milk which is what I compare it to taste-wisw
@@elliotdavis1103 the 2g of fat per serving is for silk brand only. Most other brands do not remove the naturally occurring fat which is more like 8-12g per serving, giving it a higher content than whole milk. It being low in calories isn't a good thing, as milks are meant to be nutritionally dense and filling. (It's also lower in most vitamins and minerals unless fortified)
Love how she discusses environmental impact as well. She knows her audience because I'm sure most people watching this (including myself) are plant based 😊🌱💖
no I gym regularly so I need easy protein macros cow milk is just so much higher in calories and doesn't taste that much better imo unsweetened almond for me rn, but had oat last week was really good.
@@JamFlexx Oat milk is truly so tasty and I love that it's naturally kinda sweet so you basically never need to add sugar to it, compared to soy milk which can be a bit bitter (although I do love soy milk and the nutrition it provides hehe)
Yay! Hi, Rosemary! This was fantastic. Half my family is lactose intolerant, so plant-based milks are our go-to. We gave up soymilk in our household because the isoflavones (phytoestrogens) you mention can sometimes interfere with HRT. Now we mostly drink almond because of its availability, but given what you said about its environmental impact we may be having a discussion on that soon. We also drink flaxmilk, which is REALLY rich and tasty but tends to leave an oily residue in the glass (to the point that I'll handwash them because I know the dishwasher won't cut it). It also isn't that great for cooking-- it can split a little. I use oatmilk a LOT in cooking because it works REALLY well in breads and sauces--- the flavor is very mild and works with sweet or savory foods, it doesn't split when it's heated, and it makes a killer roux. I'd love to see a side-by-side nutritional breakdown for all of these (as well as how they compare dairy/cow milk)
Huh. Interesting that you mention Soy milk effecting HRT, I quit soy after finally working out it was giving me huge stomach pain, and moved on to Rice milk in my teas. It’s the most neutral of the bunch, and isn’t as thick as the other alternatives. Oat milk I still use for hot chocolate and other Milk-like things, but I hadn’t thought of using it more in cooking- thanks for sharing! I might start doing that too….
I think Ann reardon on the milk video did say that the only obvious thing that most plant based milk lack was Calcium. However she did said tjat most commercial brand, add the missing nutrient again so they are more or less comparable with regular milk.
i usually add some caustic soda to my dishwasher, especially if i have a lot of fat in the load. it rinses very clean and sparkly and imo it tends to be less cloggy on the system than the standard powder (which i use proportionately less of). if i have a very fatty wash i put most of the caustic inside the door so it removes fat during the pre-wash rinse
"We gave up soymilk in our household because the isoflavones (phytoestrogens) you mention can sometimes interfere with HRT. " Can you give me more information on this? I'm lactose intolerant and my roommate is on HRT medication; I want to make sure I don't accidentally do harm to them, but searching only gives me information on using soy milk to ease menopause symptoms. Thank you!
@@Dawnshadow There is an extremely popular idea that Phytoestrogens can be absorbed as estrogen by the human body, but this is *completely false*. There is no scientific evidence of this whatsoever, the best 'evidence' that people will bring up is in ruminants, AKA animals that process foods multiple times with their multiple stomachs. You have nothing to worry about, dw
Rosemary has a show on Epicurious with 3 chefs based on their culinary skill. They prepare and cook a specific dish. Rosemary's part is explaining the science why techniques are used for a specific dish. You learn to cook better.
Tiger nut milk is Horchata in Mexico. Typical ingredients are water, tiger nuts, sugar, emulsifier, modified starch, acidity regulators, lemon and cinnamon natural flavoring, and stabilizers. Not exactly a health food and a bit pricey in the States unless you get it at a Mexican food store. It hasn't caught on yet with gringos. Tiger nuts are tubers grown by certain sedges that resemble grass. Wild turkeys love to dig up tiger nuts - also called chufa nuts. Ranchers plant the sedges to attract turkeys and increase the population. Now these sedges are growing all over the southeastern part of the US. I used to dig up chufa nuts in Virginia and eat them raw. The raw 'nuts' are difficult and/or expensive to buy in California where I am. Too bad. I bet they are healthier than most things people eat.
I don’t drink cows milk, and oat milk is my favorite alternative! If you haven’t tried it I highly recommend it. I’ve tried a lot of brands and the best one BY FAR is called Oatly. I would recommend getting that brand if you’re going to try oat milk.
@@alex7829 Man, someone needs to tell all those countries in Asia that they are consuming high amounts of phytoestrogens that are carcinogenic. It will surely end their cancer epidemic.
What chemicals are added to instant oats? As far as I know, they’re just rolled and pressed thinner so they cook faster but they have the exact same nutritional value as any other kind of oats.
Dear Wired, Upload the uncut version of this because your editor butchered the interesting bits of information and cut it extremely short for the sake of monetization. This presenter is exceptionally intelligent and knows how to share that knowledge in a way that makes sense to us layman. You did us all a service by introducing us to this specific topic by this specific presenter and simultaneously a disservice by cutting her short. Sincerely, Most of the comments.
Maybe I’m a weirdo, but I’ve never found a plant based milk (that was trying to be a substitute for dairy) that I’ve actually enjoyed. Everything has always had a strange taste, an odd texture, and even if it wasn’t either of those, it was just so thoroughly “meh” that I wouldn’t choose it over dairy. I haven’t tried the more exotic ones like flax or hemp, but I don’t know. Not personally appealing to me. Great video though, well presented.
Yeah I get you. The lack of creaminess if what gets me. I would have plant milk in my cereal if I had it around but I definitely wouldn't have it in tea because of the strong flavors of the nuts/plants
i am the opposite, I hated cow's milk as a kid. but alternatives did not exist then. i sound OLD! (i like to say experienced) so i am thrilled at the choice and variety for the new generation of kids/adults that do not like the lack of texture in plant based milks
Not weird at all. People have preferences. I like to think of plant milk as its own separate thing and not a substitute for cow’s milk because they are so different. I like plant milk in my tea and coffee but I’m definitely getting cow milk for cookies and Oreos.
@@smelly-y oat milk and chinese soy milk are both very creamy imo, and oat milk goes really well in cereals that also contain oats. maybe i just love oats tho
Oatmilk is my favorite for Ice cream, coconut milk is my favorite coffee creamer & Cashew milk is my favorite yogurt. Rice milk is my favorite in cereal! *Edit* Hemp & rice milk are my favorites for drinking & cereal.
Great video ❤️. I really appreciate the amount of milks that were covered. I even learned about some that I didn't know. As someone who makes their own plant based milks it really helped me understand the process more. I just wished more could have been said in the video. It appeared as though more was being said but sadly was edited out.
Thank you so much WIRED and Rosemary Trout! I've been looking for alternatives to cow milk for a while now, and I've come across many different plant-based milks, but I didn't know which one to consume because I didn't have sufficient information. This might be the most useful video I've watched today haha😆
I love this videos because they explaine in a simpler way the scientific part of the food, however, as I food scientist myself I would recommend that they explained a little more terms like "bethaglucanes" and why are they important for our health, and also that they don't use terms like "chemicals" to describe additives or substances that are included in the process of a food product, cause they could make viewers a little "triggered" and could make them think that there's something dangerous about consuming that product. Just a few suggestions.
I started off with rice milk. It is naturally very sweet in comparison to soya, both sweetened and unsweetened. It took me about 6 months of eating cereal with rice milk before I could stomach soya milk. I only switched to soya because it is cheaper. £1.40 a litre vs. 50p for soya milk(cheap supermarket own brand). First time I tried soya milk I didn't like the taste, that is why I started with rice milk. Now to me soya milk just tastes like dairy milk. The only neg I would say about soya milk is you can't make Angel Delight with it, won't thicken. I miss my Angel Delight desert I would treat myself to every now and then but I refuse to use cows milk.
How is it to taste plan-based milk? Never tried other than regular cow one (like in my country 300 ml of oat milk = 3l of cow milk) so, I'm just curious
well, every single one is different. My advice is to not go in expecting it to taste like cow's milk. The most delicious ones in my opinion are soy and oat milk
I've personally not found one I really like. Oat milk is okay and cheap to make, so that's nice. The soy milks I've had tasted like cardboard smoothies, but maybe I've just bought the wrong ones. For me the cheapest option is probably also cow's milk, so I do use that still.
I make my own banana milk. Just blend a banana with water and voilà. It's got a slight sweetness and banana flavour that I find improves my breakfast cereal and it's healthy too, so that's a bonus.
Now I’m wondering if you can make milk out of anything 😮. I’m quite surprised that certain milks wouldn’t taste like it’s source e.g. banana milk not tasting like banana?! 😮
Having grown up with rolled oats in milk being one of my main and favourite breakfast cereals, I already associate the flavour of oats with milk. Oat milk has therefore been a favourite milk substitute of mine since finding out I'm lactose intolerant. =)
Theres actually a company that created a creamer made especially for coffee, and they use a whole host of different plant-based milks in order to best pair with coffee
I knew about some plant based milks, as a Dutch person, I still only drink cow milk, but this video did make me curious. I really didn't knew there were so many options!!
@@neuuser7071 I agree. I went to the store and bought a plant based starbucks. Taste was quite alright, but it was thinner than the cow milk variants. I'd like to stick to 'normal' milk for now, but I wouldn't mind having to drink plant based stuff occasionally the future
This was great. Soymilk is where it's at. As a kid/teen who was basically forced to drink a lot of 2%, as an adult I've transitioned entirely to soymilk and I do not miss dairy milk at all. As someone who also tracks macros, soymilk is legit if you keep your serving sizes correct. I use it to make a chocolate protein drink I have every day.
So far I like Oat milk best. The others leave too much of their flavour in the milk for me. Oatly is gross though, or is that just me? Alpro oat milk seems nicer!
11:53 this is a bit inaccurate. Animal products contain vitamin B12 because we feed them the vitamins as food supplements. So easiest way to get B12? Take the food supplements yourself (B12 is usually produced by yeasts IIRC).
Rosemary Trout is an amazing name for a Food Scientist
was she born with it or did she change it?
Was thinking the same. Is it her stage name??
Real name apparently
In all of her 4 levels videos she goes by Rose
i don't know... something about the name seems a bit fishy to me
pretty disappointing that a lot of her explanations for some of them got cut out, maybe just for time/interest sake? but feels like whoever edited this could have been a bit less heavy handed. and why only talk about the environmental impacts for a couple of the more popular milks and not for the rest at all? like, i get that wired has some standards for how these kinds of videos get edited or something, but feels bad to see a video that's made to be informational and have so much of the information removed?
Yeah I feel the same. I would have watched an 1 hour video about milk :)
Same, I would love to watch a long-form version even if it's 1h+
Yes, this! Gimme the full "all info rose could find" version! Id watch the 90min milk podcast with great interest!
This isn’t the only info on plant-based milks. Go do some research. Geez, how did you people make it through school?
@@lewstone5430 didn't waste my time reading 20 research papers like you wanna do apparently. That's how I got through school
did anyone else feel like they really cut her off mid-sentence multiple times? seems like this video should've been longer
Women always want it longer....
I agree I would have loved another couple minutes per milk to really talk but what's going on... I'm here to learn about the milks lol I dony mind if it's 30 mins long
Yes I’m glad we all agree
No, nobody else noticed this incredibly subtle aspect of the video...
I would LOVE the uncut version of this. Rosemary did amazing but I wish we could hear more about certain other alternatives. I know that the point of this video is to present as many alternatives to almond milk as possible but with insight of an expert of this caliber, and such a skilled presenter at that, I wouldn’t mind a full lecture at all.
For real!! We need to see the full version of each milk, please.
a side-by-side comparison of the environmental impact of each plant-based milk would have been incredibly helpful and informative
Kurgezagt has a good video on that
Even better would be all plant based milks compared to Dairy milk and the massive land, water, and time usage that it causes.
@@onwingsofmidnightmeh, still not as much resources used to grow cows. Stupid comment.
@@Woah869lmao u mad
I really want an extended version because I wanna know more about a lot of these, some of them barely got past the name of the milk
Same
What more is there to know? It's the plant base blitzed with water, so just read up on the raw fruit/seed/nut/grain.
RIGHT? I was so excited for the rice milk section, and it was so small!
exactly this is edited down way to much
I thought I was about to learn how to make oat milk, and then all of a sudden she's straining it.
Booooooo!
Would’ve loved to hear more about each one. Seemed like she had more to say.
Yeah this is really not useful at all. For instance, she doesn't elaborate on the "lipids" part for oat milk... But people might be interested to know that a glass of oat milk has as much canola oil as a serving of french fries.
this video is for the general population not for people with a background in food sci, thus not that technical. i can imagine if your speak to her at a university or via email it would be more technical. a technical video wouldn't be digestible
@@robbiecope4042 That's really not what people are asking for though. It's just weird that it's a breakdown of different plant milks but some just get a mention while others get whole explanations of environmental issues. It's just weirdly edited, because clearly she had more to say.
@@mat5473 there is no 'canola' (a brand name for rapeseed oil) in oats. They are different plants. Are you talking about specific fatty acids?
@@adamwolach canola could be added to commercially produced oat milks I suppose, that doesn't mean it's part of the oats biologically.
Hi, I agree with everyone else, it would be nice to have heard the whole of what Rosemary said. If at all possible, a fuller version of this video would be much appreciated! Thank you!
Of what I’ve tried, I think oat milk tastes the best of the plant-based milks. It is less neutral than some, but I like the flavor. It’s great in a chai latte - like drinking an oatmeal cookie.
I don't like oat milk at all. It tastes watery to me. I prefer soy and pea milk.
@@itsnemosoul8398
Depends on the company. The cheap ones taste like oaty water + salt sometimes. The good ones taste creamy and rich, the one I know best is oatly.
@@pseudonymousbeing987 Oatly is the best but I still don't like it as much as their other milks.
Oh my - now I want oat milk chai!!
The only oat milk I like the taste and texture of is made by Chobani. A lot of the others taste too much like raw oats or they're grainy.
I feel like too much of what she said was left on the cutting room floor ; ; I could listen to her go in depth about each of these milks in a longer form vid. It'd be cool to see a bit more of the process of making the milks that she made, too
Honestly could have made that cut a bit longer, she is brilliant!
She was really interesting, hope she does another clip
She's perpetuating myths that were busted in the 90s though. All plants have all amino acids
Her channel is epicurious I believe, it's a cooking youtube channel and she's the lead host
release the rosemary cut!!!
Rosemary does a fantastic job with her explanations. I never realized that there were so many commercially produced milk alternatives. Please have Rose again!
We did not realize there were so many!!
There are even more when you include the milks that are blends of various plants.
Sunflower seed milk and Pumpkin seed milk
its true that almond milk takes alot of water to produce, but something that should be mentioned is that despite the high water consumption of almond trees, it is still twice as water efficient as cows milk
It absolutely has less of a negative environmental impact then cow's milk
Plus trees have a net reduction of methane (they produce and absorb simultaneously)… where as cows pump methane into the environment.
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@@hrigved669 lmao hello hrigy
There's also still much more environmentally friendly plant based milk choices, however. I've not really got any issue with almond milk but for this reason I don't drink it anymore since the preference between it and others is basically no different.
Pea protein has a slightly earthy, vegetal flavor that's really great in smoothies for neutralizing over sweet fruits like dates.
An extended version would be great - Rose has a tonne of valuable information to offer and should be heard.
Good topic to know about!
As a Dairy guy at Whole Foods I’ll use this information to better inform the customers in my department. They’ll think I’m the Plant Based Milk God 😂
Lol!
I've taken that a step further and have tried most of the products in my Organics/ Vegan section.
Compared like products and what milks/ starches can be used for.
Customers love it and slowly you'll find that they'll come to your aisle moreoften and higher up staff will notice.:)
The video didn't mention that almond milk has a lower water footprint than dairy milk. The almond trees remove and sequester CO2. Dairy cows produce a huge amount of methane which is 20-80 times more potent than CO2 for climate change. On the other hand, there are plenty of other plant milks which use less water than almond milk.
You should do a taste test with lots of little shot glasses!
@@someguy2135 cows also sequester methane and use less water than almond trees.
@@neuuser7071 "It really depends on the impact we care most about. Almond milk has lower greenhouse gas emissions and uses less land than soy, for example, but requires more water and results in higher eutrophication. All of the alternatives have a lower impact than dairy, but there is no clear winner on all metrics." -Our World in Data Jan 19, 2022
Link to follow.
"Pea milk does not taste like pea. It's made with yellow pea."
Okay, I see you.
sounds appetising 😆
Some people (not me) love that yellow pea.
@@lewstone5430 R Kelly?
@@vincevvn I had to dig for it but I found the comment I was looking for lol
It actually tastes pretty good (in my opinion ofc)
How to make oatmilk according to this video:
Step 1: Get some oats and ice water
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Profit!
Lmao yes
Hahah
Blend of 1/4 C oat with 1 L cold water
Use cheese cloth to drain
😁
Yeah this editor could have done a better job. Just randomly cutting to her squeezing a bag was pretty bad
@@4mr4goldfish4ily4 That's really it. There are videos on UA-cam that show the process. The oats that are left over can be eaten after being cooked, or added to a smoothie before mixing. Experiment to see the ratios you like best for your smoothies. This makes the oat milk basically free, other than the time needed to make it.
@@someguy2135 you don't need to cook oats to eat them
I wish her explanations about each milk weren't so viciously cut! You can tell she has way more to say!
As someone who has been deadly allergic to milk protein for my whole life, I love seeing that plant-based milk is becoming more popular. I remember that even just 3-4 years ago I wasn't able to order a coffee at a smaller cafe because they wouldn't have any milk that I could drink. Also, I am swedish and have seen the potato milk at supermarkets but unfortunately I haven't had the chance to try it yet.
I thought that potatoes were high in lectins and are toxic raw...?
This woman clearly said a lot more about each type but we only get the abridged version
Directors cut
"coconut milk" refers to two completely different products - the traditional thick high fat product used in cooking, e.g. many south east Asian curries, and the less traditional dairy milk replacement, used mostly in drinks.
She did distinguish them. She referred to the can and the carton. It was pretty obvious to me.
@@natewhitelaw3759 She did, but the way it was worded was a bit weird, sounded as if people actually drink out of the can. 😅 But as far as I know that type of coconut milk is always used for cooking.
@@thespankmyfrank you can drink it too, but it's a little thick on it's own. take a whole can and mix it with equal parts orange juice and you'll have a rlly tasty drink
We use the coconut cream/milk cans to make coconut milk for our cereal in our house. We love how creamy and fatty it is, and our tummies appreciate the no additives part
same with soy milk, asian soymilk has a lot more soy flavour than the soymilk that tries to be milk alternative
i’m so glad to see rose on wired now! i never knew how many types of milks there could be. she did a wonderful job explaining each milk and i wish her cuts were longer. we NEED more of rosemary trout!!
As someone who drinks both cow's milk and occasionally plant milk - only for flavour, which means I'm very picky - I can honestly say that hazelnut milk is the best plant milk there is. It's incredibly underrated in my opinion.
Can we get an extended version of it, this is the only resources I have found talking about non-dairy milks in detail
Seeing Rosemary outside of Epicurious is unexpected but appreciated!
Ikr!! Knew someone else would recognize her, tho expected more such comments tbh!
The reason why is because Epicurious and WIRED are under Condé Nast Entertainment
I clicked on this caused it IS Rosemary Trout & I thought this was EPICURIOUS!!!
Lo & behold, it ended with WIRED!!!
I thought WOW THAT'S WEIRD!!! 😂🤪😆😜🤣
like twilight zone weird!!!
@@Rath460 same with Bon Appetit, which she also has appeared on
They removed the chalk art
My mom would make oat milk all the time when I was a kid seeing it in stores made me really happy and now it’s the only milk we really drink since other popular alternative milks she’s allergic to it’s really interesting how full circle that is
This video is MARVELOUS. I just wanted to add that it's easy to make pumpkin seed milk in a blender as well. Use plump, fresh, raw pumpkin seeds in a proportion of about 1 to 4 with water (or 1 to 3 if you want milk that's creamier). Just buzz on high speed in the blender until liquified - no filtering necessary. It tastes great chilled and used instead of cow's milk on breakfast cereal.
I need to try it, cause i hate the taste of pumpkin seeds but want that nutritional value
Thank youu
a lot of recent research suggests that emulsifiers can negatively impact the gut microbiome ... so i'm wondering whether the emulsifiers in oat milk are a good thing? i'm not frothing it so i don't need them. i'm otherwise pretty happy with oats
It gave me horrible indigestion when I tried it
This is edited down way too much. Half the time she's clearly got more to say and it seems everyone here would like to here it so that's a shame :/
Love Rosemary Trout! Feel free to bring her back! The editing in this was a bit choppy, though.
Agreed on the editing!
Yeah it felt like she was cut off mid sentence several times
I never knew that there were so many plant based milks or that the topic was so interesting. I agree that Rosemary Trout is a fantastic name for a very attractive and classy food scientist. The video was fantastic. Thanks Wired. I would love to see more videos with Rosemary Trout (Food Scientist).
She's in quite a few videos on Epicurious!
@@alaras this comment was made by her husband lol
This is the cutest comment ever!
@@cjcrose8151 That makes so much sense, thank you for commenting that! Because the "attractive" bit made me cringe lmao, good to know it's her husband.
@@thespankmyfrank the attractive part did not make me cringe at all. It's called a harmless, POLITE, compliment.
No matter what troubles roil around this wild world, Rose Trout will always be here, patiently and warmly explaining food science info to us 😭
I really love that she explained some of the historical and environmental context, and the practical applications of the non-dairy milks. a lot of people don't know that non-dairy milks are as old as dairy milks or other animal milks.
About a month ago we got rye milk to the stores in Finland! Haven’t tried it yet but it sounds like an interesting new innovation!
It's interesting to me how Americans even try coconut juice as a healthier(?) subs for milk. Here in the place where I live, the narrative is that coconut milk is bad because it's high on saturated fat. It's widely used in tons of our cuisines and I see some healthy(?) folks start avoiding or substituting it sometimes even with dairy because they think it's healthier(again, question mark).
In america the “healthy” foods usually are a lie that the companies tell to sell food and make Americans fatter
@Pinecone Archon Ive read this about the fat content, but I don’t like the taste of coconut anyway.
@@Sco10 yea maybe it's a little bit of both. I've seen non-vegan/vegetarians jump on the trend too so idk.
@@lewstone5430 I love how fresh coconut taste, but the milk is indeed off-putting if you drink it on its own. It's sweet, floral, a little bit nutty, and it gives you strong-ish savory/umami tingles which is kinda weird lol.
Oh anyway IDK how boxed/processed coconut milk taste like. My mom used to grind coconut by hand and made milk out of it.
@Pinecone Archon yeah, my mom grew up with coconut in South America and loved it, but I grew up in the US and only had access when I was visiting family, this was the 80’s. It was too strong for me. I only like it in mixed drinks like piña colada’s where there’s just a hint.
I live in Brazil, and the flavors that we have in the markets are:
Soy milk, costing U$1,60/L
Coconut milk, costing 2,00/L
Rice milk, costing U$2,00/L
Oatmilk, costing U$4,00/L
Cashew milk, costing U$4,20/L
While cow's milk cost 1,00/L
That's harder to poor people choose a plant based option over here.
More like everywhere.
@@rbw3000 here in italy i buy oat milk for 1 euro per liter
If you care about the rainforest, then please buy plant milk (of those listed, soy is most nutritious, but unfortified it's not suitable as a breast milk alternative for babies).
Don't forget about hidden state subsidies. Remove those and the numbers could look drastically different. It's a hidden tax.
@@djayjp Brazil needs more investment the plant based meat, because there are lotta deforestation areas for livestock.
great video! didn't realise there were so many kinds. Also appreciate the point about almond milk's water needs, though I think it's actually lower compared to cow's milk
Correct.
Every plant based milk has a lower water, carbon and land-use impact than cow milk.
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While they’re all better solutions than cows milk, water insecurity is a big issue in California and we probably shouldn’t be using what water we have to grow almonds. It’s also not great for the bees they use!
@@BBQUINN that’s a good point too, thank you
@@alexciccone4397 your comment is wildly incorrect.
@@BBQUINN incorrect. They are actually far worse than cows milk.
I wish you would have included all the info that may have been cut out. Some nuts/grains/seeds she focused on more than others. It would have been nice to see all of the info she shared.
Cashew milk is my absolute favorite so I'm disappointed they cut her off while saying almost nothing about it lol. It's very rich and creamy, imo the best replacement for making ice cream or adding to your coffee! I honestly just prefer it to dairy milk.
It is the best, but there is nothing really good to say about it 😂 it's the best because it's high in fat most similar to dairy, but has the lowest nutritional value of all non dairy milks
@@WeatherManToBe I don't think 2 grams of fat per serving is that much tbh. Much lower calorie than whole milk which is what I compare it to taste-wisw
@@elliotdavis1103 the 2g of fat per serving is for silk brand only. Most other brands do not remove the naturally occurring fat which is more like 8-12g per serving, giving it a higher content than whole milk.
It being low in calories isn't a good thing, as milks are meant to be nutritionally dense and filling. (It's also lower in most vitamins and minerals unless fortified)
thanks for the tip!
Do you have recommendations for good brands of cashew milk? The one time I tried left a really bad taste in my mouth :/
Love how she discusses environmental impact as well. She knows her audience because I'm sure most people watching this (including myself) are plant based 😊🌱💖
I'm not plant-based at all, but the production of these milks is fascinating. I just wish they'd let her talk longer!
Nope, sorry.
Vegan for life ✌️🌱
no I gym regularly so I need easy protein macros
cow milk is just so much higher in calories and doesn't taste that much better imo
unsweetened almond for me rn, but had oat last week was really good.
@@JamFlexx Oat milk is truly so tasty and I love that it's naturally kinda sweet so you basically never need to add sugar to it, compared to soy milk which can be a bit bitter (although I do love soy milk and the nutrition it provides hehe)
Yay! Hi, Rosemary! This was fantastic. Half my family is lactose intolerant, so plant-based milks are our go-to.
We gave up soymilk in our household because the isoflavones (phytoestrogens) you mention can sometimes interfere with HRT.
Now we mostly drink almond because of its availability, but given what you said about its environmental impact we may be having a discussion on that soon. We also drink flaxmilk, which is REALLY rich and tasty but tends to leave an oily residue in the glass (to the point that I'll handwash them because I know the dishwasher won't cut it). It also isn't that great for cooking-- it can split a little.
I use oatmilk a LOT in cooking because it works REALLY well in breads and sauces--- the flavor is very mild and works with sweet or savory foods, it doesn't split when it's heated, and it makes a killer roux.
I'd love to see a side-by-side nutritional breakdown for all of these (as well as how they compare dairy/cow milk)
Huh. Interesting that you mention Soy milk effecting HRT, I quit soy after finally working out it was giving me huge stomach pain, and moved on to Rice milk in my teas. It’s the most neutral of the bunch, and isn’t as thick as the other alternatives. Oat milk I still use for hot chocolate and other Milk-like things, but I hadn’t thought of using it more in cooking- thanks for sharing! I might start doing that too….
I think Ann reardon on the milk video did say that the only obvious thing that most plant based milk lack was Calcium. However she did said tjat most commercial brand, add the missing nutrient again so they are more or less comparable with regular milk.
i usually add some caustic soda to my dishwasher, especially if i have a lot of fat in the load. it rinses very clean and sparkly and imo it tends to be less cloggy on the system than the standard powder (which i use proportionately less of). if i have a very fatty wash i put most of the caustic inside the door so it removes fat during the pre-wash rinse
"We gave up soymilk in our household because the isoflavones (phytoestrogens) you mention can sometimes interfere with HRT. "
Can you give me more information on this? I'm lactose intolerant and my roommate is on HRT medication; I want to make sure I don't accidentally do harm to them, but searching only gives me information on using soy milk to ease menopause symptoms. Thank you!
@@Dawnshadow There is an extremely popular idea that Phytoestrogens can be absorbed as estrogen by the human body, but this is *completely false*. There is no scientific evidence of this whatsoever, the best 'evidence' that people will bring up is in ruminants, AKA animals that process foods multiple times with their multiple stomachs. You have nothing to worry about, dw
Can we talk about how big this cutting board is? :D
can we get the full version!? I love this
Rosemary has a show on Epicurious with 3 chefs based on their culinary skill. They prepare and cook a specific dish. Rosemary's part is explaining the science why techniques are used for a specific dish. You learn to cook better.
Can we get a version of this video without half of her explanations taken out?
Please!
Some people become food scientists in life......but Rosemary, here, was born a food scientist...Salute
In Rosemary we trust! The crossover I didn’t expect in my timeline 😊😊
Very extensive overview! The only ones I've seen in store that haven't been included are:
Buckwheat milk, peanut milk and tiger nut milk :)
Can you imagine being the one who has to "milk" the tiger for the tiger nut milk?
@@Dawnshadow 🤣🤣🤣
Tiger nut milk is Horchata in Mexico. Typical ingredients are water, tiger nuts, sugar, emulsifier, modified starch, acidity regulators, lemon and cinnamon natural flavoring, and stabilizers. Not exactly a health food and a bit pricey in the States unless you get it at a Mexican food store. It hasn't caught on yet with gringos. Tiger nuts are tubers grown by certain sedges that resemble grass. Wild turkeys love to dig up tiger nuts - also called chufa nuts. Ranchers plant the sedges to attract turkeys and increase the population. Now these sedges are growing all over the southeastern part of the US. I used to dig up chufa nuts in Virginia and eat them raw. The raw 'nuts' are difficult and/or expensive to buy in California where I am. Too bad. I bet they are healthier than most things people eat.
I don’t drink cows milk, and oat milk is my favorite alternative! If you haven’t tried it I highly recommend it. I’ve tried a lot of brands and the best one BY FAR is called Oatly. I would recommend getting that brand if you’re going to try oat milk.
why did they make it so short? I would've liked her full explanations!!!
There’s another plant-based milk I’m aware of which froths absolutely beautifully. Chickpea milk! High in protein and essential amino acids too.
Never had it in milk form but that does make sense as you can use the liquid that gobanzos are packed in to make Macaroon instead of egg whites.
Chickpeas are so frothy that they can be used as egg white substitutes in baking
Weird editing at 1:47 to 1:48? Felt like you skipped a few steps.
Would love to see the full version of this video! I want to know how to make oat milk with all the science explanation!
3:27 - Soy Milk has ALL of the essential amino acids. ALL of them. c'mon.
Love that you mentioned hemp milk, look forward to more content like this and thank you
Macadamia nut milk is absolutely delicious love using it in recipes that call for cow milk. Though I prefer soy for its protein and neutral flavor.
Soy milk is nothing more than taking an estrogen pill. Not good at all. Try goats milk.
And cancer
@@alex7829 Man, someone needs to tell all those countries in Asia that they are consuming high amounts of phytoestrogens that are carcinogenic. It will surely end their cancer epidemic.
@@alex7829 what
@@unoriginal1086 there were studies in the early 00s saying that soy gave people breast cancer. the studies were probably by the dairy industry! lol
I am so excited to see Rose on here! She is wonderful!
What chemicals are added to instant oats? As far as I know, they’re just rolled and pressed thinner so they cook faster but they have the exact same nutritional value as any other kind of oats.
Dear Wired,
Upload the uncut version of this because your editor butchered the interesting bits of information and cut it extremely short for the sake of monetization.
This presenter is exceptionally intelligent and knows how to share that knowledge in a way that makes sense to us layman. You did us all a service by introducing us to this specific topic by this specific presenter and simultaneously a disservice by cutting her short.
Sincerely,
Most of the comments.
Maybe I’m a weirdo, but I’ve never found a plant based milk (that was trying to be a substitute for dairy) that I’ve actually enjoyed. Everything has always had a strange taste, an odd texture, and even if it wasn’t either of those, it was just so thoroughly “meh” that I wouldn’t choose it over dairy. I haven’t tried the more exotic ones like flax or hemp, but I don’t know. Not personally appealing to me. Great video though, well presented.
Yeah I get you. The lack of creaminess if what gets me. I would have plant milk in my cereal if I had it around but I definitely wouldn't have it in tea because of the strong flavors of the nuts/plants
@@smelly-y Have you tried cashew milk? It's very creamy.
i am the opposite, I hated cow's milk as a kid. but alternatives did not exist then. i sound OLD! (i like to say experienced) so i am thrilled at the choice and variety for the new generation of kids/adults that do not like the lack of texture in plant based milks
Not weird at all. People have preferences. I like to think of plant milk as its own separate thing and not a substitute for cow’s milk because they are so different. I like plant milk in my tea and coffee but I’m definitely getting cow milk for cookies and Oreos.
@@smelly-y oat milk and chinese soy milk are both very creamy imo, and oat milk goes really well in cereals that also contain oats. maybe i just love oats tho
Omg, it's Rose, I adore Rose!
Oatmilk is my favorite for Ice cream, coconut milk is my favorite coffee creamer & Cashew milk is my favorite yogurt.
Rice milk is my favorite in cereal!
*Edit* Hemp & rice milk are my favorites for drinking & cereal.
Rosemary Trout is quite literally the epitome of an intelligent, successful mentor we all want.
Extended version please 🙏
Great video ❤️. I really appreciate the amount of milks that were covered. I even learned about some that I didn't know. As someone who makes their own plant based milks it really helped me understand the process more.
I just wished more could have been said in the video. It appeared as though more was being said but sadly was edited out.
I love Rose Trout. Best foodie on You Tube. She is so smart!Does oat milk have carbs? I count carbs.
Would love to see the full video. Felt like too much was cut out, kinda made it unwatchable
I feel happy for no good reason after listening to rosemary. she has such a calming voice. She would be such a good professor
rose is literally such a queen! I love hearing all her explanations throughout the 3 levels of cooking.
Everything Rose does is amazing!! Her knowledge is unmeasurable! Can’t wait to try my oat milk with ICE WATER!!!! I hate that slimy milk!!
Yes! I didn’t realize how simple it was to make oat milk. Definitely want to give it a try!
Thank you so much WIRED and Rosemary Trout! I've been looking for alternatives to cow milk for a while now, and I've come across many different plant-based milks, but I didn't know which one to consume because I didn't have sufficient information. This might be the most useful video I've watched today haha😆
I love this videos because they explaine in a simpler way the scientific part of the food, however, as I food scientist myself I would recommend that they explained a little more terms like "bethaglucanes" and why are they important for our health, and also that they don't use terms like "chemicals" to describe additives or substances that are included in the process of a food product, cause they could make viewers a little "triggered" and could make them think that there's something dangerous about consuming that product. Just a few suggestions.
I started off with rice milk. It is naturally very sweet in comparison to soya, both sweetened and unsweetened. It took me about 6 months of eating cereal with rice milk before I could stomach soya milk. I only switched to soya because it is cheaper. £1.40 a litre vs. 50p for soya milk(cheap supermarket own brand). First time I tried soya milk I didn't like the taste, that is why I started with rice milk. Now to me soya milk just tastes like dairy milk. The only neg I would say about soya milk is you can't make Angel Delight with it, won't thicken. I miss my Angel Delight desert I would treat myself to every now and then but I refuse to use cows milk.
I could listen to Rose talk about food science for hours
So glad to this this wonderful woman again! loved her in the 4-levels series and its great to see her still killin it
How is it to taste plan-based milk? Never tried other than regular cow one (like in my country 300 ml of oat milk = 3l of cow milk) so, I'm just curious
well, every single one is different. My advice is to not go in expecting it to taste like cow's milk. The most delicious ones in my opinion are soy and oat milk
I've personally not found one I really like. Oat milk is okay and cheap to make, so that's nice. The soy milks I've had tasted like cardboard smoothies, but maybe I've just bought the wrong ones. For me the cheapest option is probably also cow's milk, so I do use that still.
Should one be concerned with the high amounts of oxalate in some nut milks, most specifically almond milk?
If you purchase almond milk it's filled with mostly fullers.
Oxalate isn't particularly bad until you eat extremely high levels
I make my own banana milk. Just blend a banana with water and voilà. It's got a slight sweetness and banana flavour that I find improves my breakfast cereal and it's healthy too, so that's a bonus.
Editors- please release an extended version with title cards. I'll watch the whole thing!
We want to see Rose making the actual milks... Not only talking about them
Yay, a video with just rose! We love you rose :D
Now I’m wondering if you can make milk out of anything 😮. I’m quite surprised that certain milks wouldn’t taste like it’s source e.g. banana milk not tasting like banana?! 😮
Forgot to mention that the protein in all these milks aren't nearly as bioavailable as the protein in regular cows milk
I love videos with Rose! She's smart, & it comes off as helpful, not snotty like many experts are.
Having grown up with rolled oats in milk being one of my main and favourite breakfast cereals, I already associate the flavour of oats with milk. Oat milk has therefore been a favourite milk substitute of mine since finding out I'm lactose intolerant. =)
I wonder if there will ever be a mixed nuts and grain milk. Trail mix milk!
Theres actually a company that created a creamer made especially for coffee, and they use a whole host of different plant-based milks in order to best pair with coffee
That’s such an interesting idea!!
Rosemary... Like she was literally born for this job 😂
don't forget Trout
‘Trout’ is her married name. Her maiden name was ‘Flounder’ no joke, look it up.
@@lewstone5430 this is nuts lol!
@@lewstone5430 ha ha. Funny joke.
I wish this video was longer, she's amazing.
I really would like to ser the whole unedited version of the video. It sounds like there was so much information that for cut out ok the editing.
I knew about some plant based milks, as a Dutch person, I still only drink cow milk, but this video did make me curious. I really didn't knew there were so many options!!
If you ant to start somewhere, I reccommend everything that says "barista", as its usually more fatty and has a similar mouth feel as animal milk :)
@@Chii1991 thank you! I'll keep that in mind. Saw plant based starbucks too, so I might give that a try. Seeing how that is with almond milk
@@bartesveldt I hardly go to starbucks, but my favourite is oat ^^
Nothing beats the real thing.
@@neuuser7071 I agree. I went to the store and bought a plant based starbucks. Taste was quite alright, but it was thinner than the cow milk variants. I'd like to stick to 'normal' milk for now, but I wouldn't mind having to drink plant based stuff occasionally the future
This was great. Soymilk is where it's at. As a kid/teen who was basically forced to drink a lot of 2%, as an adult I've transitioned entirely to soymilk and I do not miss dairy milk at all. As someone who also tracks macros, soymilk is legit if you keep your serving sizes correct. I use it to make a chocolate protein drink I have every day.
There's a reason why it's worked for China for 600+ years.
So far I like Oat milk best. The others leave too much of their flavour in the milk for me.
Oatly is gross though, or is that just me? Alpro oat milk seems nicer!
We drink a brand that it's made here in north Italy called "The Bridge" it's the best one so far.
chobani Oat is my favorite
there are barely oats in oatly
For me, Alpro NOT Milk is the best oat milk. Also good in coffee.
@@giovannifacci try alnatura oat milk if you can
I trust every word Rose says, always. I need an extended version of this!
very nice video! where's the full version?
Omg would love to try banana milk!!!!! Bet it goes good with cereals. 💚🐾🍌
I had already been thinking about banana milk and now there's this. YESSSS
@@greggdrake no lie I have this banana cake recipe that, with this milk added will be bomb bomb 💚😊🍌🐾
11:53 this is a bit inaccurate. Animal products contain vitamin B12 because we feed them the vitamins as food supplements. So easiest way to get B12? Take the food supplements yourself (B12 is usually produced by yeasts IIRC).
I would’ve watched an hour of Rosemary Trout. Love her!! BRB gonna go milk some oats
i’ve seen y’all make 30+ min vid please release the the extended version if possible
Pistachio, macadamia and hazelnut milk are so good just on its own! I use soy milk for baking, cooking, etc since it has a neutral taste.
If you ever make soy milk on your own the leftover pulp is SO GOOD in baking. Makes things super fluffy and adds protein too