1:00 sound system sucks 2:38 front windows raddle over bumps when lowered only a bit to let fresh air in and when opening and closing the door 3:50 no rain gutter 5:49 no metal bumper (excluding outlands edition) 7:00 door fitment and aligment 8:30 glue residue gets on pain everytime the front panels are removed your welcome
Not to mention built by spoiled rotten uaw. Much of the cost is tied up in uaw fat paychecks and ridiculous benefits. You are not getting much vehicle for your money. Stay away from ford, period.
There is a adjustment at the bottom of the door jamb to fix that window rattle. There is a UA-cam video out on how to adjust it . The window wobble is because of the window not coming down fast enough to clear the weatherstripping, just slow down a tad when opening the door to allow for that window to clear the weatherstripping and it will not wobble as much. Ford is working on a fix so hopefully that will come soon.
My passenger side does this. I work at a ford dealership. Should I have them look at it? Or should I try the fix it yourself first? I don’t want to void a warranty by doing something wrong…
@@jayesbeautifulchaos2244 l would have Ford look at it first. Roll your window half way down and go for a ride and if it rattles when going over a rough road it needs to be adjusted. It should be covered under your warranty .
this is interesting because i almost have the opposite problem; when i roll my window down (and back up), especially in the mornings, it squeals like crazy because it’s pressing too hard on the weatherstripping inside the door somewhere. not sure if it’s inside or outside yet, but i want to get them tinted and so i need to fix that first. thanks for sharing that.
What ford has done? bronco is 45% foreign made. The remainder is US/CANADA (foreign). ford is not doing it. ford is relying more and more on foreign countries and workers in order to stay in business. Don't get ripped off.
I think the sound system is awesome! I can have the top off , have the sound all the way up and going down I-75 around 80mph and I can still hear the radio!
I've had my Bronco for about 6 months also! TOTALLY agreed on the window rattle/stability. I understand why it's constructed that way; Jeep doors are impossibly heavy and hard to get off by yourself, also hard to store because of the bulkiness, so it's nice to have a compact/not so heavy door when playing. For me, my biggest two are: lack of overhead lighting/lighting around the gear shift. The lights above the rearview mirror essentially do nothing, and the car is too pricey not to have lighting around the gearshift in my opinion. Seems small--but even my base level cars before this had those features. Over all, I LOVE my Bronco, and hope to have it for a very long time. Such a cool car, and very easy to get over the dislikes with so many wonderful features (:
My wife and I just brought home a 4-door 2024 Outer Banks in Eruption green with glossy black roof 2 days ago. I have been playing around with the B/O sound system, but I also feel the same system in my wife's 2018 Audi RS3 is missing something also. Yet, my 2018 Colorado ZR2 extended cab with Bose system (no sub, since it doesn't fit the ext cab) hit nice for just speakers. As for the windows, I did notice a wobble but just thought I opened the door too quick and the window didn't roll down quick enough. And when I got home from work this morning, my first complaint was the water running off the roof. (Years ago we had a 2007 Wrangler Unlimited, and you're right, you never got dripped on.)
I have a Black Diamond - I 100% agree with 2 & 3. The radio bugged me at first because I had an amazing sound system in my Xterra, but i've kind of gotten used to it at this point.
Totally agree with you. Window rattle is unsettling and I worry about long term wear and tear. I actually love the design of the rear bumper, but it's lame that it's plastic. Over heading lighting is terrible. The other two for me are the lack of cup holders in the rear seats unless you opted for leather and no upper air vents in the back. I love my bronco, but I've spent some time trying to improve the passenger experience. The other thing is storage. But I'm less bothered there since I have lots of options to upgrade it.
Great video, I always hope Ford sees consumers like us. First, I love my 2021 Outer Banks, it is 10x the vehicle my jeep was from handling, daily driver ride stability, interior options, retro looks. Agree, windows are very annoying & cheap. Dropping my hand behind the handle for a moment like a Mustang or slowing down as my dealer recommended didn't help the poor design. It makes the vehicle seem cheap when everyone gets in. I tell everyone it's my Wile E Coyote window system specially added from Ford. What the engineers need to do is walk down the hallway and talk to the Mustang design team. I have owned 5 from 2008 Shelby to my 2015 50th, drop beautifully and cleanly. My 2015 drops as soon as it senses my hand behind the handle, 2008 you have to operate the handle still works perfectly to this day. I would have thought this would have been fixed by 2022. I also hate the stereo in mine, my 2014 JK had a surprisingly kick butt stereo and sub from the factory. However, being a Ford for life girl, the crappy stereo systems are norm in their vehicles except my '02 Lincoln LS. I've reached out to Ford with owner feedback and they seem receptive. More of us should reach out in whatever way we can.
I have a 21 Outer Banks Sasquatch with the 2.7, 22,000 miles. It's been flawless, the best vehicle I've ever owned. I have the B&O sound system and while I agree it's not top notch, I'm OK with it. I'm fine with the windows and bumper and don't have door alignment issues. I also don't have the sealant issues when removing the front roof panels.
Will they last over 200k miles? I doubt it. Turbos on a small 2.7 in a heavy vehicle is ridiculous. I wouldn't even buy the new V6 turbo that's in the new Tundras.
@@crawdaddct My fathers 2011 Expedition has almost 385k miles. He uses it for work and to travel. Same engine and transmission. Just routine maintenance and basic parts were changed. I don't see these Broncos lasting that long, especially with those garbage 10 speed transmissions.
I went from the bronco sport to a 2024 Ford Bronco and I love it. I'm fine with the stereo and I'm a huge music person....mainly metal. I do agree with the driver's window. I HATE that rattle. At times, when I go over train track crossings, it sounds like the window is going to rattle out to pieces. It's pretty bad. Like you said, l need to keep it closed, half down, or just about an inch down.
I'll tell you if you make that window tighter then take the vehicle off-road you will bust the window when you hit some serious rough patches. I'd recommend upgrading your suspension.
My biggest problem is the windows go down slightly when you open the door. This poses a problem when it snows and your windows freeze and it can't go down that half inch... waiting for a window to break
I appreciate your perspective on this vehicle. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, CA and now reside in Olathe, KS and when you said you have mods waiting but its too cold to put them on I laughed. Too cold he says, lmao. I hope your still loving your Bronco, I am in the market for a manual transmission one.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed the window rattling while driving with the windows partially open! Not a deal breaker but I haven’t seen many people talk about it! I just roll them all the way down now or only crack them on smooth roads.
It's so bad that I won't drive down the highway unless the windows are all the way down or all the way up. And when you close the doors it sounds like the windows are going to fall off. My husband has frameless on his mustang and they don't rattle.
I have my Bronco for almost a year now, I fixed most to the problem myself like the hardtops popping noise, for the door mirror delay, you just need to handle it more gently, dealers can’t do nothing about it!
What was your popping noise? Was it from the front or the back? I'm thinking I'm getting almost a cracking type noise in the rear when I hit a big enough bump
Mine located on the front panel above the passenger side, it raddled and sounded like popping corn. But I did fix it, honestly it depends on case by case. For the mirror delay, luckily for me it only happens on the passenger side for both doors. But I kinda have the idea why they bang like that: it’s the seal bar between the roof and mirrors, on the passenger side it’s lower than the driver side, I think I can fix it by raising the bar higher, but it can a painful process 😅😅😅
Nice job. I have similar gripes with mine. It's also an Outer Banks. Overall, I love it, but I do believe some things weren't completely thought out. I'd also mention the lack of places to keep things up front. Some cars have little compartments, the Bronco could have made better use of the space. Reaching into the console behind your elbow, or stretching to the other side for the distant glove box isn't exactly ideal while driving. Obviously, not a deal breaker, but it can be a minor inconvenience. I do agree with all your points. It is fun to drive though! Take care man.
I am considering purchasing a Ford Bronco, so thanks for making this video. The small issues highlighted here remind me of the struggles I have heard some mention about the Badlands model. I currently own a 2018 VW Tiguan with 140k+ miles on it (and its only issue has been a parking brake switch that broke!), and I never had a "fun" vehicle - but I've loved Broncos for a long time. I will keep researching the Bronco, because I really want one for taking mountain bikes, camping gear into the mountains.
All vehicles have their quirks, nothing is perfect but this is a GREAT vehicle. It’s been dead nuts reliable and has been able to get me ANYWHERE I want to go with confidence. Snow, dirt, mud, etc. it does it with comfort and style. Throw a hitch mount bike rack and you’re set!
Bro. I have told about a thousand people about the window rattle. Makes the thing feel cheap. I wouldnt care at all if it wasn't the first thing I experience when getting in or out. But why has no one mentioned the fact that this thing only has 2 cup holders?! My wifes Honda has 184 cup holders just in case. Maybe everyone else that owns one doesn't have kids so it's not a big deal. But put 3 kids in the back with a McDowell's happy meal and tell them to jam the cup in the door cargo net so it squeezes the top off. Mistake! Get me more cup holders! PS. The sound system blows like the wind. Reminds me of my '95 Wrangler with only 2- 4" factory speakers. Thanks Ford for perpetuating all the love/hate things in my life.
Only issue I’ve had is occasionally when you open the rear doors the windows don’t close in the frame You can lower and raise it and keep the window button pressed up for 30 seconds and it resets I have a base model with 35s and leather Love it
I definitely share some of the same dislikes about the vehicle. I happened to sell my Bronco today, and while looking over it before the pick up, I was reminded of the door alignment issue. WIndow rattle is terrible and it did keep me from cracking open my window, because the first couple of times it happened, I thought the something inside was seriously loose. I've never had the gooey seal issue with the top though. Just like you mentioned, at the end of the day, Bronco is definitely fun to drive and an overall a good experience. I wouldn't trade it for any other vehicle that I could afford..... i just happen to be waiting on my Heritage Edition to be built!. Good luck and I look forward to seeing more about your build.
It’s definitely a lot better than the non-upgraded one, contrary to what he says…….but it’s still not great, compared to other premium sound systems. Of course, limitations on speaker placement is part of the problem.
I love the sound system mine has! I have a Black Diamond and a Jeep Willys and the Bronco’s sound system is wayyyyy better than the jeep. It doesn’t even compare.
Dude I thought it was crazy they were so expensive but my gf got me this one and it’s true. The best hat ever. You just wash it and it’s clean - no more sweat rings. I wear it paddle boarding and just dunk it to stay cool
I have a 2016 ford edge titanium and the sound system is exccccelent. I’m getting a bronco this year and not super excited about the downgrade in speakers.
Got an order for a 2-door 2023 Badlands w/Sas and Lux. Appreciate your heads up about issues you've noted. Currently drive a 2-door 2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, which I like, but Broncos offer features I like more. Though the audio issue is somewhat more concerning. I enjoy my tunes when on the road. Only other 2-door Bronco detractor is its backseat being near unremovable. Jeep backseat slips out or in with just a click.
@@FlashbackFern Appreciate your heads up. Have heard audio system complaints from other Bronco owners, too. However, one Bronco owner advised the sound system could be adjusted to sound okay. Will see.
The only issue I’ve noticed so far is that my rear bumper is about an inch out of level. Nothing that can’t be fixed but falls in line with some of the things you mentioned.
I'm with you on the audio and window issues. Swapped speakers but need more bass as you said. I have a Badlands, soft top. Looking forward to the exhaust video. I went with Corsa for mine!
@@jjhernandez5244 it is actually steel on the lower 85% and the top piece is hard MIC plastic but the color matches the rest of bumper, flares, black parts perfectly and really looks like 1 unit
Sadly when you get to be an old system to subwoofer amplifier and the amplifier for the system is in the right rear quarter panel. All it takes is one rainstorm with the top off and the amplifier is done. Another poor freaking design from Ford
Honestly, your concerns are valid. If you are spending your money on a vehicle they should put more work into making it better. Vehicles aren’t cheap. You are aloud to voice your concerns with something you paid money for. We would never find out the issues with vehicles we order if it weren’t for videos like this. I’m in the market to order a ‘23. This was helpful to voice my concerns. Thank you 🤘🏻✌🏻 The only issue I find with this video is you mentioned listen to Joe Rogan on podcast. 😹
Coming from an obx, to B raptor………first thing I noticed is the lack of window jiggle. It’s night and day. And that is true of the fit and finish over all.
Funny thing about the "black glue," is I encountered this on a soft-top. Only it wasn't at that location... it was down on side panels behind the front wheels. I assumed it was tire-shine that flung up. But after seeing your video, it was definitely the same thing as what you're pointing out. It was a rental Bronco, so I can't experiment more to figure out how it happened. But it was definitely the same thing you are talking about.
I ordered a Bronco in 21 (Outer Banks) and still don't have it! I was pushed to 23 a few months ago, how it comes through. Question - how is the road noise with a hard top? It will be my daily driver and I make a lot of handsfree calls while driving. Will that be an issue in your experience?
You could make a rain gutter for it. There has to be after market support for the bumper. I personally own a Jeep WJ Grand Cherokee. I’ve done a lot of work to it. I constantly have people ask me how or where they can get some of the gadgets I have on it. I tell them I make them work, which I do. There is plenty of support for the Wranglers, they are practically made so people can modify them. With the early Cherokee’s we are adding and doing things to them that were never meant to be done. Lift kits, big tires, steel bumpers with winches, roof racks with lights and accessories. That kind of stuff… That’s part of the fun with them though. There’s always a work around. Nice Bronco. Thanks for sharing
Hummm, I have the Wildtrak and it also has the plastic rear bumper. No where in accessories did they offer a metal rear bumper as far as I know. As for the sound system, yeah it lacks bass, but most new cars and trucks sound systems suck anyway and if you pay for the factory upgrade your paying about twice as much as an aftermarket system that you can customize. The top must be unique for you cause mine doesn't do that at all. Drip rail is hit and miss anyway, we live in California where it hardly rains (except this year) so rain or moisture is not really anything to worry about!!
I have a '21 Badlands with the MIC hardtop. I've never seen anything like that gooey black stuff. Bestop offers a 2-row soft top that mates to the hard top clamshell. I got that, and now no longer need to leave the middle panel somewhere if I want to go topless. Recommended.
The difference is the 4.7 axle ratio on the wild track you really only need sway bar disconnect if you don’t have enough ground clearance which wildtrak suspension comes with - added 1.5 inches of lift or buy quick disconnects easy
Love my bronco but I have some small issues as well. I’ve only had it for the winter so far so I haven’t been cracking my windows just yet. A few things that have been bothering me… the rain streaming down into the car from the roof feels like a waterfall. The seat warmers get so hot so fast you can only leave it on for about 30 seconds before it’s uncomfortable. And the step getting in and out is placed in an odd position and makes it a bit awkward.
Agreed. The front windows a quarter of the way down is down right scary. And the speakers are horrible. I upgraded all of them to Kenwoods and installed a Rockville 12 inch sub and Rockville 1200 watt amp. World of difference and it was a perfect set up with the top off. Love your rig!!
Not so fast. My bought new 2020 Jeep Wrangler Sport with the hardtop rattled like crazy. I was able to pinpoint the rear glass causing it. I had to smear silicon grease on the rubber seal to stop the sound. Then both the passenger and driver side sun visors simple snapped off while driving and were swinging loose in front of our faces. It’s a known issue with most of the new Jeeps. There’s even a company that makes a metal piece that bolts over the top of the mount because the Jeep won’t fix it. Then the engine rattled at low throttle horribly. I ended up selling it before it was too late.
My seat belts don’t retract, also I keep hitting the door lock when I get out, it’s in a stupid place. And locks doors. Drives really nice. Also what I don’t like is the gas gauge, if the west sun is coming in your window, you can’t read the gauge, looks like your empty..only have 3,000 miles on mine, just took 3 people to airport, was shocked 3 check in size bgs, fit in the back perfect. Was proud of my little bronco.. also, was blown away when I had my brights on, and they dimmed by themselves when a car was coming.
I saw another video showing this. There is a button to hit on your remote before you open the door that cracks the window to eliminate that glass rattle you're showing.
I have a Jeep Gladiator Mojave. It's so versatile. Haven't found anything to hate so far after a year. It has a lot more power than a Toyota Tacoma. I was looking at a Bronco just for a change of pace. With a lift and tires I'm wondering about the horsepower.
I have a 22 Ford Expedition Timberline and the driver door has the gap too. I haven’t had time to take it back to the dealership but will be taking it soon.
Hey, up in northern Canada here. How do the windows handle the extreme cold? We basically cant roll down our windows cos they are frozen 6 months of the year. Anyone have any issues???
Sound system was brutal. I added a JL subwoofer and amp to mine. Sounds great now. I have the soft top and it bugs me a little that my back windows have a wave in them.
The best stock sound system I've ever had in this genre off SUV was in my 2011 FJ Cruiser that had their premium JBL system. That thing shook the Earth! God I miss rocking Tool in that monster. As for the window rattle, I think this just a general issue with frameless windows. My 370Z had frameless windows and I had the same cringe moments so it was always either all the way down or not.
Interesting, as a soft top owner I don't have the goo issue. The window rattle is real for me, big issue. My other issue is the plastic cover under the windshield wipers pops up and doesn't stay clipped into place. I feel as if the plastic is bowed out some. Lots of little issues here and there for sure with Ford quality. End product overall though is amazing and I love wheeling my Bronco!
Only one i have on my 22WT4dr is the window rattle. I have a soft top, and one of the rear latches (for raising the back end of it) broke, so it needs to be manually opened and closed when closing the back end. I also offroaded I guess a little hard, since my rearview is loose now
Try dynamat Or similar product on the exterior door skin inside the door underneath the door panels everywhere you have a speaker you will be amazed by what dynamat does for a stock sound system and when you upgrade to a better speaker they will sound even better yet i saw a test display set up with some oem speakers with sound insulation And with out it sounds better than most of the basic upgraded speakers without it. Will reduce road noise too you can get a roll of Killmat for $70 (Just as good as dynamat)
I really wanted to buy one in 2022 until I drove it. At regular road speed the ride was so uncomfortable and there was so much road noise that I knew I couldn't live with it as my main vehicle and wasn't looking for a secondary vehicle. I get what they did with the doors so they can fit inside the back of the 4 door version but since there's no proper seal for the doors to slide into it really causes a lot of wind noise.
I only buy American cars and I have 2023 Bronco Badlands and i must agree w/ you 100% that the sound system quality is not what I am used to w/ Lincoln SUVs and even Ford Flex SEL. We will see what happens to my Bronco down the road since I've had it for less than a month ,,, thank you for the heads up!
They should have just made it have a fixed roof and non-removable doors. That’s why the windows rattle and it is why the sound system sucks (speaker placement). It’s why there is no rain gutter. All that just to take the doors off, which most people won’t do.
Love your Bronco! I have a Big Bend in Oxford white, love it! I upgraded the tires and installed leather. I have the same issue with the window rattle while driving and when opening the doors except the rear passenger door is the only one that the window doesn't drop down correctly and gets stuck all the time. The others seem to be fine. I always feel like it's going to break my window when I open the door.
My driver door sits just like your passenger door and it bothers the he'll out of me at night when the puddle lights shine down you can really see the fitment sucks. Was thinking same as you I can adjust myself but haven't gotten around to it yet. If you find a solution for it a video would be greatly appreciated. Good luck with it
The doors aren't great. The shifter also feels cheap. Mainly noticed how cheap it felt once I drove my brother in law's manual Bronco which has a much nicer shifting knob. Love the touch screen, but my Apple Carplay freezes often when I get phone calls and drops the blue tooth.
I have a tesla long range model 3. I think it has one of the best stock stereos I've ever heard. I test drove a bronco with the B&O radio, I thought it was nearly just as good, maybe not as loud. Sure I've heard better after market setups. But personally, I thought the B&O was pretty good. I'm sure with all the doors off and the top off it'll lose some of its loudness... But I couldn't complain.
See my comment from today. He has a cubby pocket on the right side where I have a sub and a speaker grille. I think he has his sub deleted, which may explain the lack of depth he talks about. I heard my B&O system a couple weeks back when my daughter was driving it and could feel the bass from about 30 ft away and the people I was standing with commented about how good it sounded. Crazy how varies the opinions are.
I think that window issues would really bug me especially the rain running off the roof and coming inside if you have the window open when you make a turn.
I fit doors at a an American automobile manufacturer. Not sure what's going on with the windows in your bronco (I don't work at the bronco plant), but I looks like your door latch is coming off the striker really hard. It shouldnt "clunk" off like that. Id say that door needs refitted. About your front door sticking out slightly proud of the rear door. That's most likely for water dispersement. We purposely do that on our vehicles. That said, I don't make broncos, so I may be wrong.
Don't bother, just take her to the dealership and show her how it's impossible to get in and out of very small and cramped, and less than the sum of its parts and sure what else you can buy for that much money
Appreciate the video, I'm thinking of buying a Bronco myself, I wonder if some of these issues were addressed and changed by this time, like you, my music has to be Pumpin'. Thinking of getting Wildtrak with Sasquatch package, if its not already standard on the Wildtrak
Buy the Bronco. Just got my 2023 and love it. 4 door, Outer Banks, sasquatch, hardtop with mid and high package. Has accessory switches. $52,700 plus tax and tags.
I had a 21 2 door with the sasquatch package, my airbag sensor went so no airbags and my screen that had my fuel and speed etc.. stopped working I had 8k miles and about 10 months of normal driving. Sold it as I foresee big problems down the road with it
I ordered a Bronco and it came in 2 days ago. I didn't purchase it because it is #5 on the worst SUV list (22 to 23) Apparently the engine sucks the valves into block and piston rods are known to break.
Rods known to break ? What lol haven’t heard that at all. There were some issues with early 21MY valves on 2.7s but that’s all I heard of engine qualms. Any source on this?
1:00 sound system sucks
2:38 front windows raddle over bumps when lowered only a bit to let fresh air in and when opening and closing the door
3:50 no rain gutter
5:49 no metal bumper (excluding outlands edition)
7:00 door fitment and aligment
8:30 glue residue gets on pain everytime the front panels are removed
your welcome
Not to mention built by spoiled rotten uaw. Much of the cost is tied up in uaw fat paychecks and ridiculous benefits. You are not getting much vehicle for your money. Stay away from ford, period.
bless you
As someone with the attention span of a pan-fish, thank you
There is a adjustment at the bottom of the door jamb to fix that window rattle. There is a UA-cam video out on how to adjust it . The window wobble is because of the window not coming down fast enough to clear the weatherstripping, just slow down a tad when opening the door to allow for that window to clear the weatherstripping and it will not wobble as much. Ford is working on a fix so hopefully that will come soon.
I work at ford. There is a tsb that fixes both of those issues under warranty, I've done a few of them
My passenger side does this. I work at a ford dealership. Should I have them look at it? Or should I try the fix it yourself first? I don’t want to void a warranty by doing something wrong…
@@jayesbeautifulchaos2244 l would have Ford look at it first. Roll your window half way down and go for a ride and if it rattles when going over a rough road it needs to be adjusted. It should be covered under your warranty .
this is interesting because i almost have the opposite problem; when i roll my window down (and back up), especially in the mornings, it squeals like crazy because it’s pressing too hard on the weatherstripping inside the door somewhere. not sure if it’s inside or outside yet, but i want to get them tinted and so i need to fix that first. thanks for sharing that.
Thank you for this. The window rattle is insane I feel like it's gonna break.
Thanks for sharing! They do seem “small issues”, but when spending 55,000 - 65,000 dollars, you want it perfect! Beautiful set up 👍🏼
Exactly!
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$ 55-65k is absolutely ridiculous. Don't get ripped off.
Looks great dude! I’m a Wrangler guy but it’s hard to ignore what Ford has done with this generation of the Bronco.
I have a compass and I keep looking at the Broncos. It's hard not to admire what they have done!
What ford has done? bronco is 45% foreign made. The remainder is US/CANADA (foreign). ford is not doing it. ford is relying more and more on foreign countries and workers in order to stay in business. Don't get ripped off.
It's an incredible improvement on the Jeep Wrangler top issues.
Does Jeep have a bigger top down version?
Like a convertible?
Love it!
Totally agree with you. For the price they are charging for the Bronco, the quality should be much better at that price point.
I think the sound system is awesome! I can have the top off , have the sound all the way up and going down I-75 around 80mph and I can still hear the radio!
I've had my Bronco for about 6 months also! TOTALLY agreed on the window rattle/stability. I understand why it's constructed that way; Jeep doors are impossibly heavy and hard to get off by yourself, also hard to store because of the bulkiness, so it's nice to have a compact/not so heavy door when playing.
For me, my biggest two are: lack of overhead lighting/lighting around the gear shift. The lights above the rearview mirror essentially do nothing, and the car is too pricey not to have lighting around the gearshift in my opinion. Seems small--but even my base level cars before this had those features.
Over all, I LOVE my Bronco, and hope to have it for a very long time. Such a cool car, and very easy to get over the dislikes with so many wonderful features (:
Great points! Easy to add aftermarket LEDs and tap them into the existing wiring but hey I get what you mean! Maybe when they release the facelift 🤓
@@marksocials97 there’s always one of you in the comments, lol.
Uh should i get one? I really want it but im contemplating
My wife and I just brought home a 4-door 2024 Outer Banks in Eruption green with glossy black roof 2 days ago. I have been playing around with the B/O sound system, but I also feel the same system in my wife's 2018 Audi RS3 is missing something also. Yet, my 2018 Colorado ZR2 extended cab with Bose system (no sub, since it doesn't fit the ext cab) hit nice for just speakers.
As for the windows, I did notice a wobble but just thought I opened the door too quick and the window didn't roll down quick enough.
And when I got home from work this morning, my first complaint was the water running off the roof. (Years ago we had a 2007 Wrangler Unlimited, and you're right, you never got dripped on.)
I have a Black Diamond - I 100% agree with 2 & 3. The radio bugged me at first because I had an amazing sound system in my Xterra, but i've kind of gotten used to it at this point.
I have a black diamond as well and yes, 2 & 3 drive me insane lol 😂
Totally agree with you. Window rattle is unsettling and I worry about long term wear and tear. I actually love the design of the rear bumper, but it's lame that it's plastic. Over heading lighting is terrible. The other two for me are the lack of cup holders in the rear seats unless you opted for leather and no upper air vents in the back. I love my bronco, but I've spent some time trying to improve the passenger experience.
The other thing is storage. But I'm less bothered there since I have lots of options to upgrade it.
I'd like a full-framed door/solid permanent hardtop roof option
Great video, I always hope Ford sees consumers like us. First, I love my 2021 Outer Banks, it is 10x the vehicle my jeep was from handling, daily driver ride stability, interior options, retro looks. Agree, windows are very annoying & cheap. Dropping my hand behind the handle for a moment like a Mustang or slowing down as my dealer recommended didn't help the poor design. It makes the vehicle seem cheap when everyone gets in. I tell everyone it's my Wile E Coyote window system specially added from Ford. What the engineers need to do is walk down the hallway and talk to the Mustang design team. I have owned 5 from 2008 Shelby to my 2015 50th, drop beautifully and cleanly. My 2015 drops as soon as it senses my hand behind the handle, 2008 you have to operate the handle still works perfectly to this day. I would have thought this would have been fixed by 2022. I also hate the stereo in mine, my 2014 JK had a surprisingly kick butt stereo and sub from the factory. However, being a Ford for life girl, the crappy stereo systems are norm in their vehicles except my '02 Lincoln LS. I've reached out to Ford with owner feedback and they seem receptive. More of us should reach out in whatever way we can.
I have a 21 Outer Banks Sasquatch with the 2.7, 22,000 miles. It's been flawless, the best vehicle I've ever owned. I have the B&O sound system and while I agree it's not top notch, I'm OK with it. I'm fine with the windows and bumper and don't have door alignment issues. I also don't have the sealant issues when removing the front roof panels.
Will they last over 200k miles? I doubt it. Turbos on a small 2.7 in a heavy vehicle is ridiculous. I wouldn't even buy the new V6 turbo that's in the new Tundras.
@@ilc-nl3yyhere we go
hey man i’m looking into get one as well. any issues when it comes to the mechanics of it? has it been giving u any issues reliability wise?
@@ilc-nl3yyyes they are lasting. Change your oil regularly and it’s fine.
@@crawdaddct My fathers 2011 Expedition has almost 385k miles. He uses it for work and to travel. Same engine and transmission. Just routine maintenance and basic parts were changed. I don't see these Broncos lasting that long, especially with those garbage 10 speed transmissions.
I went from the bronco sport to a 2024 Ford Bronco and I love it. I'm fine with the stereo and I'm a huge music person....mainly metal. I do agree with the driver's window. I HATE that rattle. At times, when I go over train track crossings, it sounds like the window is going to rattle out to pieces. It's pretty bad. Like you said, l need to keep it closed, half down, or just about an inch down.
I'll tell you if you make that window tighter then take the vehicle off-road you will bust the window when you hit some serious rough patches. I'd recommend upgrading your suspension.
My biggest problem is the windows go down slightly when you open the door. This poses a problem when it snows and your windows freeze and it can't go down that half inch... waiting for a window to break
I appreciate your perspective on this vehicle. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, CA and now reside in Olathe, KS and when you said you have mods waiting but its too cold to put them on I laughed. Too cold he says, lmao. I hope your still loving your Bronco, I am in the market for a manual transmission one.
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed the window rattling while driving with the windows partially open! Not a deal breaker but I haven’t seen many people talk about it! I just roll them all the way down now or only crack them on smooth roads.
I owned a Subaru that had the frameless windows and didn't have the issue
Yah I hope they come out with a fix. I like having my windows partially down.
It's so bad that I won't drive down the highway unless the windows are all the way down or all the way up. And when you close the doors it sounds like the windows are going to fall off. My husband has frameless on his mustang and they don't rattle.
@@aliciamcginnis4590 I'm concerned that it's going to shatter from the extreme vibration
Same!
I have my Bronco for almost a year now, I fixed most to the problem myself like the hardtops popping noise, for the door mirror delay, you just need to handle it more gently, dealers can’t do nothing about it!
What was your popping noise? Was it from the front or the back? I'm thinking I'm getting almost a cracking type noise in the rear when I hit a big enough bump
Mine located on the front panel above the passenger side, it raddled and sounded like popping corn. But I did fix it, honestly it depends on case by case. For the mirror delay, luckily for me it only happens on the passenger side for both doors. But I kinda have the idea why they bang like that: it’s the seal bar between the roof and mirrors, on the passenger side it’s lower than the driver side, I think I can fix it by raising the bar higher, but it can a painful process 😅😅😅
Nice job. I have similar gripes with mine. It's also an Outer Banks. Overall, I love it, but I do believe some things weren't completely thought out. I'd also mention the lack of places to keep things up front. Some cars have little compartments, the Bronco could have made better use of the space. Reaching into the console behind your elbow, or stretching to the other side for the distant glove box isn't exactly ideal while driving. Obviously, not a deal breaker, but it can be a minor inconvenience. I do agree with all your points. It is fun to drive though! Take care man.
Wish it had the cubby that goes in between the center counsel like the Nissan rouge has. Would be so helpful
I only have a week with my brinco and I’m like “ yes, yes, yes” to all that lol! But i love my bronco ❤
Badlands and Black Diamond have the stock metal bumper. Agreed on the audio and front door jiggling! Good video! overall I love my bronco. Tons of fun
Front bumper correct my black diamond doesn’t have a steel rear bumper as he mentioned in video.
I’m so happy that you mentioned the windows because I was worried about the rattling!!! The sound system is okay but I wish mine was louder!!!
I am considering purchasing a Ford Bronco, so thanks for making this video. The small issues highlighted here remind me of the struggles I have heard some mention about the Badlands model. I currently own a 2018 VW Tiguan with 140k+ miles on it (and its only issue has been a parking brake switch that broke!), and I never had a "fun" vehicle - but I've loved Broncos for a long time. I will keep researching the Bronco, because I really want one for taking mountain bikes, camping gear into the mountains.
All vehicles have their quirks, nothing is perfect but this is a GREAT vehicle. It’s been dead nuts reliable and has been able to get me ANYWHERE I want to go with confidence. Snow, dirt, mud, etc. it does it with comfort and style. Throw a hitch mount bike rack and you’re set!
Guys what is the name of this type of tire??! Would love to know!
Bro. I have told about a thousand people about the window rattle. Makes the thing feel cheap. I wouldnt care at all if it wasn't the first thing I experience when getting in or out. But why has no one mentioned the fact that this thing only has 2 cup holders?! My wifes Honda has 184 cup holders just in case. Maybe everyone else that owns one doesn't have kids so it's not a big deal. But put 3 kids in the back with a McDowell's happy meal and tell them to jam the cup in the door cargo net so it squeezes the top off. Mistake! Get me more cup holders! PS. The sound system blows like the wind. Reminds me of my '95 Wrangler with only 2- 4" factory speakers. Thanks Ford for perpetuating all the love/hate things in my life.
Only issue I’ve had is occasionally when you open the rear doors the windows don’t close in the frame
You can lower and raise it and keep the window button pressed up for 30 seconds and it resets
I have a base model with 35s and leather
Love it
I definitely share some of the same dislikes about the vehicle. I happened to sell my Bronco today, and while looking over it before the pick up, I was reminded of the door alignment issue. WIndow rattle is terrible and it did keep me from cracking open my window, because the first couple of times it happened, I thought the something inside was seriously loose. I've never had the gooey seal issue with the top though. Just like you mentioned, at the end of the day, Bronco is definitely fun to drive and an overall a good experience. I wouldn't trade it for any other vehicle that I could afford..... i just happen to be waiting on my Heritage Edition to be built!. Good luck and I look forward to seeing more about your build.
I have the B&O sound system in my Bronco, I think it's pretty awesome.
It’s definitely a lot better than the non-upgraded one, contrary to what he says…….but it’s still not great, compared to other premium sound systems. Of course, limitations on speaker placement is part of the problem.
I love the sound system mine has! I have a Black Diamond and a Jeep Willys and the Bronco’s sound system is wayyyyy better than the jeep. It doesn’t even compare.
I have that same hat! It's the best hat I've ever owned and still looks brand new after Texas summer.
Dude I thought it was crazy they were so expensive but my gf got me this one and it’s true. The best hat ever. You just wash it and it’s clean - no more sweat rings. I wear it paddle boarding and just dunk it to stay cool
@@JacobRDoty yeah the price is like uumm what?? What an awesome gift though. Yeah it cleans up so easily.
I have a 2016 ford edge titanium and the sound system is exccccelent. I’m getting a bronco this year and not super excited about the downgrade in speakers.
Got an order for a 2-door 2023 Badlands w/Sas and Lux. Appreciate your heads up about issues you've noted. Currently drive a 2-door 2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon, which I like, but Broncos offer features I like more. Though the audio issue is somewhat more concerning. I enjoy my tunes when on the road. Only other 2-door Bronco detractor is its backseat being near unremovable. Jeep backseat slips out or in with just a click.
Sound system is trash and one of the reason I sold it last week
@@FlashbackFern Appreciate your heads up. Have heard audio system complaints from other Bronco owners, too. However, one Bronco owner advised the sound system could be adjusted to sound okay. Will see.
@@problu9586 well there is more I was not a fan of but I’ll leave it at that. Great truck overall just wish a few things were different
Front door closing reminds me of closing the door of my buddy’s old 2001 f350. Lol. Everything shakes
The only issue I’ve noticed so far is that my rear bumper is about an inch out of level. Nothing that can’t be fixed but falls in line with some of the things you mentioned.
I'm with you on the audio and window issues. Swapped speakers but need more bass as you said. I have a Badlands, soft top. Looking forward to the exhaust video. I went with Corsa for mine!
I have a badlands 2 door and it came with a plastic rear bumper, did your come with a metal bumper?
@@jjhernandez5244 it is actually steel on the lower 85% and the top piece is hard MIC plastic but the color matches the rest of bumper, flares, black parts perfectly and really looks like 1 unit
Sadly when you get to be an old system to subwoofer amplifier and the amplifier for the system is in the right rear quarter panel. All it takes is one rainstorm with the top off and the amplifier is done. Another poor freaking design from Ford
Just got a Corsa for mine, sounds great
Is that window rattle still there on the 2023? No matter what vehicle I've ever had I usually have the window down a few inches.
Honestly, your concerns are valid. If you are spending your money on a vehicle they should put more work into making it better. Vehicles aren’t cheap. You are aloud to voice your concerns with something you paid money for. We would never find out the issues with vehicles we order if it weren’t for videos like this. I’m in the market to order a ‘23. This was helpful to voice my concerns. Thank you 🤘🏻✌🏻
The only issue I find with this video is you mentioned listen to Joe Rogan on podcast. 😹
Coming from an obx, to B raptor………first thing I noticed is the lack of window jiggle. It’s night and day. And that is true of the fit and finish over all.
How’s the road noise on the braptor? I feel like I hear a lot of people saying it’s bad but if you could lmk.
Funny thing about the "black glue," is I encountered this on a soft-top. Only it wasn't at that location... it was down on side panels behind the front wheels. I assumed it was tire-shine that flung up. But after seeing your video, it was definitely the same thing as what you're pointing out. It was a rental Bronco, so I can't experiment more to figure out how it happened. But it was definitely the same thing you are talking about.
I ordered a Bronco in 21 (Outer Banks) and still don't have it! I was pushed to 23 a few months ago, how it comes through. Question - how is the road noise with a hard top? It will be my daily driver and I make a lot of handsfree calls while driving. Will that be an issue in your experience?
Perfectly fine for calls while driving. The sound clarity on the other end is great too
I have a wildtrak and I love it !!!
I agree with you about the sound system!!!! I expected more!!!
You could make a rain gutter for it. There has to be after market support for the bumper. I personally own a Jeep WJ Grand Cherokee. I’ve done a lot of work to it. I constantly have people ask me how or where they can get some of the gadgets I have on it. I tell them I make them work, which I do. There is plenty of support for the Wranglers, they are practically made so people can modify them. With the early Cherokee’s we are adding and doing things to them that were never meant to be done. Lift kits, big tires, steel bumpers with winches, roof racks with lights and accessories. That kind of stuff… That’s part of the fun with them though. There’s always a work around. Nice Bronco. Thanks for sharing
Hummm, I have the Wildtrak and it also has the plastic rear bumper. No where in accessories did they offer a metal rear bumper as far as I know. As for the sound system, yeah it lacks bass, but most new cars and trucks sound systems suck anyway and if you pay for the factory upgrade your paying about twice as much as an aftermarket system that you can customize. The top must be unique for you cause mine doesn't do that at all. Drip rail is hit and miss anyway, we live in California where it hardly rains (except this year) so rain or moisture is not really anything to worry about!!
Thank you for your honesty but I agree for the cost...they should address your concerns
I have a '21 Badlands with the MIC hardtop. I've never seen anything like that gooey black stuff.
Bestop offers a 2-row soft top that mates to the hard top clamshell. I got that, and now no longer need to leave the middle panel somewhere if I want to go topless. Recommended.
The difference is the 4.7 axle ratio on the wild track you really only need sway bar disconnect if you don’t have enough ground clearance which wildtrak suspension comes with - added 1.5 inches of lift or buy quick disconnects easy
The window might be a easy fix. Pop the panels and tighten the wiper. I had to do that on some cars before. It works.
Automakers need to return to having vent windows in vehicles. Don't have to open the primary window to move some air around the cabin.
I know tell me about. Vent windows circulated the air so much better. I miss 2 door Broncos too just way more rugged looking.
Love my bronco but I have some small issues as well. I’ve only had it for the winter so far so I haven’t been cracking my windows just yet. A few things that have been bothering me… the rain streaming down into the car from the roof feels like a waterfall. The seat warmers get so hot so fast you can only leave it on for about 30 seconds before it’s uncomfortable. And the step getting in and out is placed in an odd position and makes it a bit awkward.
Agreed. The front windows a quarter of the way down is down right scary. And the speakers are horrible. I upgraded all of them to Kenwoods and installed a Rockville 12 inch sub and Rockville 1200 watt amp. World of difference and it was a perfect set up with the top off. Love your rig!!
So glad you showed us those issues. I’m thinking of passing on the bronco and going for the 2024 Jeep wrangler 👍
same
Not so fast. My bought new 2020 Jeep Wrangler Sport with the hardtop rattled like crazy. I was able to pinpoint the rear glass causing it. I had to smear silicon grease on the rubber seal to stop the sound.
Then both the passenger and driver side sun visors simple snapped off while driving and were swinging loose in front of our faces. It’s a known issue with most of the new Jeeps. There’s even a company that makes a metal piece that bolts over the top of the mount because the Jeep won’t fix it.
Then the engine rattled at low throttle horribly.
I ended up selling it before it was too late.
My seat belts don’t retract, also I keep hitting the door lock when I get out, it’s in a stupid place. And locks doors. Drives really nice. Also what I don’t like is the gas gauge, if the west sun is coming in your window, you can’t read the gauge, looks like your empty..only have 3,000 miles on mine, just took 3 people to airport, was shocked 3 check in size bgs, fit in the back perfect. Was proud of my little bronco.. also, was blown away when I had my brights on, and they dimmed by themselves when a car was coming.
I saw another video showing this. There is a button to hit on your remote before you open the door that cracks the window to eliminate that glass rattle you're showing.
I have a Jeep Gladiator Mojave. It's so versatile. Haven't found anything to hate so far after a year. It has a lot more power than a Toyota Tacoma. I was looking at a Bronco just for a change of pace. With a lift and tires I'm wondering about the horsepower.
did anyone look at the rear end crash test before you purchased?
I have a 22 Ford Expedition Timberline and the driver door has the gap too. I haven’t had time to take it back to the dealership but will be taking it soon.
Hey, up in northern Canada here. How do the windows handle the extreme cold? We basically cant roll down our windows cos they are frozen 6 months of the year. Anyone have any issues???
Where you get the bronco FRONT BUMPER BULL BAR
Sound system was brutal. I added a JL subwoofer and amp to mine. Sounds great now. I have the soft top and it bugs me a little that my back windows have a wave in them.
Could I get a link to the sub and amp you got?
The best stock sound system I've ever had in this genre off SUV was in my 2011 FJ Cruiser that had their premium JBL system. That thing shook the Earth! God I miss rocking Tool in that monster.
As for the window rattle, I think this just a general issue with frameless windows. My 370Z had frameless windows and I had the same cringe moments so it was always either all the way down or not.
Interesting, as a soft top owner I don't have the goo issue. The window rattle is real for me, big issue. My other issue is the plastic cover under the windshield wipers pops up and doesn't stay clipped into place. I feel as if the plastic is bowed out some. Lots of little issues here and there for sure with Ford quality. End product overall though is amazing and I love wheeling my Bronco!
Apparently the rattle can be fixed pretty easily but man it makes it sound like it’s gonna fall apart on the trail😂
Only one i have on my 22WT4dr is the window rattle.
I have a soft top, and one of the rear latches (for raising the back end of it) broke, so it needs to be manually opened and closed when closing the back end.
I also offroaded I guess a little hard, since my rearview is loose now
I really hate that window raddle on my bronco when I have the window 1/4 down while driving
Mine is bad too 😢
I agree on the sound system and the rear bumper. I don't like the mileage, the wind noise.
Try dynamat Or similar product on the exterior door skin inside the door underneath the door panels everywhere you have a speaker you will be amazed by what dynamat does for a stock sound system and when you upgrade to a better speaker they will sound even better yet i saw a test display set up with some oem speakers with sound insulation And with out it sounds better than most of the basic upgraded speakers without it. Will reduce road noise too you can get a roll of Killmat for $70 (Just as good as dynamat)
I really wanted to buy one in 2022 until I drove it. At regular road speed the ride was so uncomfortable and there was so much road noise that I knew I couldn't live with it as my main vehicle and wasn't looking for a secondary vehicle.
I get what they did with the doors so they can fit inside the back of the 4 door version but since there's no proper seal for the doors to slide into it really causes a lot of wind noise.
Glad I got the Bronco Raptor. Have none of these issues outside the sound system, but I don’t listen to a lot of music so not a problem for me.
Absolutely agree B/O sound system sucks. Are those 37' tires? Can you comment on the lift? equipment and cost
I only buy American cars and I have 2023 Bronco Badlands and i must agree w/ you 100% that the sound system quality is not what I am used to w/ Lincoln SUVs and even Ford Flex SEL. We will see what happens to my Bronco down the road since I've had it for less than a month ,,, thank you for the heads up!
They should have just made it have a fixed roof and non-removable doors. That’s why the windows rattle and it is why the sound system sucks (speaker placement). It’s why there is no rain gutter. All that just to take the doors off, which most people won’t do.
Great video! What type of grill guard did you go with? It looks great!
THANK YOU for talking about the sound system
Love your Bronco! I have a Big Bend in Oxford white, love it! I upgraded the tires and installed leather. I have the same issue with the window rattle while driving and when opening the doors except the rear passenger door is the only one that the window doesn't drop down correctly and gets stuck all the time. The others seem to be fine. I always feel like it's going to break my window when I open the door.
My driver door sits just like your passenger door and it bothers the he'll out of me at night when the puddle lights shine down you can really see the fitment sucks. Was thinking same as you I can adjust myself but haven't gotten around to it yet. If you find a solution for it a video would be greatly appreciated. Good luck with it
The doors aren't great. The shifter also feels cheap. Mainly noticed how cheap it felt once I drove my brother in law's manual Bronco which has a much nicer shifting knob. Love the touch screen, but my Apple Carplay freezes often when I get phone calls and drops the blue tooth.
I have a tesla long range model 3. I think it has one of the best stock stereos I've ever heard. I test drove a bronco with the B&O radio, I thought it was nearly just as good, maybe not as loud. Sure I've heard better after market setups. But personally, I thought the B&O was pretty good. I'm sure with all the doors off and the top off it'll lose some of its loudness... But I couldn't complain.
See my comment from today. He has a cubby pocket on the right side where I have a sub and a speaker grille. I think he has his sub deleted, which may explain the lack of depth he talks about. I heard my B&O system a couple weeks back when my daughter was driving it and could feel the bass from about 30 ft away and the people I was standing with commented about how good it sounded. Crazy how varies the opinions are.
I got a Black Diamond and got a full metal rear bumper like the Badlands.
I think that window issues would really bug me especially the rain running off the roof and coming inside if you have the window open when you make a turn.
Mine doesn’t have that issue
Great video. These are good observations. For as expensive as they are, the quality really isn't all there. Very frustrating.
Nobody ever talks about the sound system. Thank you so much
That's because when they're trying to make a video and they've got 10 things they don't like the sound system doesn't make it on the list
Thanks for the video, I'm currently in the market for a bronco, this definitely gives me something to look into before purchasing 👍🏽
I fit doors at a an American automobile manufacturer. Not sure what's going on with the windows in your bronco (I don't work at the bronco plant), but I looks like your door latch is coming off the striker really hard. It shouldnt "clunk" off like that. Id say that door needs refitted.
About your front door sticking out slightly proud of the rear door. That's most likely for water dispersement. We purposely do that on our vehicles. That said, I don't make broncos, so I may be wrong.
Keep in mind the OBX is the more street worthy comfortable trim. It’s understandable it doesn’t have a metal bumper.
Bronco looks good, man!
Agreed on rain gutter and rear bumper.
What brand is that prerunner style bar on the front bumper?
This is going to make me trade in my wrangler. love this build so much
There's no aftermarket glue-on rain gutters? I noticed and concerned over the frameless window rattle. I'm in the market now anyway. Miss my '95.
I can build my own metal bumper but at the cost these things are running lately I want a vehicle that runs without needing upgrades for a while
The windows do rattle and leak when rolled up after being rolled down
Love the white. This is exactly how I want mine to look.
My mothers looking into buying one of these, I’m gonna show her this video! Great video! And love your mustang too!
Don't bother, just take her to the dealership and show her how it's impossible to get in and out of very small and cramped, and less than the sum of its parts and sure what else you can buy for that much money
Appreciate the video, I'm thinking of buying a Bronco myself, I wonder if some of these issues were addressed and changed by this time, like you, my music has to be Pumpin'. Thinking of getting Wildtrak with Sasquatch package, if its not already standard on the Wildtrak
Buy the Bronco. Just got my 2023 and love it. 4 door, Outer Banks, sasquatch, hardtop with mid and high package. Has accessory switches. $52,700 plus tax and tags.
You made very good point that are not trivial. Thanks to you I won't be buying it. Appreciate the great info.
with the rain getting in on a turn, is that something that happens even when the window is fully up?
Does the passenger side front window rattle too? If the back don’t the front shouldn’t? Sounds like that window may not be in quite right? 5:11
Great video with specific perspectives from an actual owner and user. Thank you !!
I had a 21 2 door with the sasquatch package, my airbag sensor went so no airbags and my screen that had my fuel and speed etc.. stopped working I had 8k miles and about 10 months of normal driving. Sold it as I foresee big problems down the road with it
I ordered a Bronco and it came in 2 days ago. I didn't purchase it because it is #5 on the worst SUV list (22 to 23) Apparently the engine sucks the valves into block and piston rods are known to break.
Rods known to break ? What lol haven’t heard that at all. There were some issues with early 21MY valves on 2.7s but that’s all I heard of engine qualms. Any source on this?
@@kirkadkison242 that is correct on the 2.7 6 cylinder engine... catastrophic failure is common
What brand is your bolt on bull bar?
I have a 2021 Badlands with the Lux package. The sound is great. I also don’t have a window rattle issue.
I hate the headlights..the big screens. The way the the site line goes up towards the back