Did I Screw up? Audi Eats 4 Belts in 5 Weeks

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  • @WatchWesWork
    @WatchWesWork  2 роки тому +93

    Walden by Henry David Thoreau: www.gutenberg.org/files/205/205-h/205-h.htm
    Astro Nano Impact Torx Bit Set: amzn.to/3Df8rBO
    OTC Belt Install Tool: amzn.to/3QAM2lF

    • @montestu5502
      @montestu5502 2 роки тому +11

      “You do not own an Audi, it owns you.” That’s what I got out of the first few pages of the book.

    • @Oh-Jay52
      @Oh-Jay52 2 роки тому +5

      AUDI aka Another Useless Drive Invented !!!

    • @evilkidd174
      @evilkidd174 2 роки тому +1

      Civil Disobedience is my motto and middle name.

    • @IR-nq4qv
      @IR-nq4qv 2 роки тому +4

      When it came to talking about and describing nature, I got to say that guy was Thoreau.
      I have no doubt he would've worn a Die Hard ball hat as well.
      You saved the day and the princess, that's all that matters and its still a win win in my books

    • @mphilleo
      @mphilleo 2 роки тому +7

      A gentleman and a scholar. Hat tip to you, Wes.

  • @ElisamuelResto
    @ElisamuelResto 2 роки тому +485

    As an Audi owner that works on his own car and talked with many others that do the same, these things are a nightmare. Fun to drive, expensive to maintain and you end up questioning a lot of design decisions.

    • @rkan2
      @rkan2 2 роки тому +28

      Don't pick the big engines, torque converter automatics, cvts and some dsg models and youll be fine ;) 1.9 TDI manual all the way. Of course if you are in the US you might not be left with many optuons hehe.

    • @pheffr
      @pheffr 2 роки тому +42

      I had a B5 Passat. I have never harbored an ounce of prejudice in my heart, but I don't think I can forgive the German people for that monstrosity.

    • @wim0104
      @wim0104 2 роки тому +6

      Sounds like you are in the same fleet as the great-in-a-way ship Subaru! That Quattro and WRX legacy!

    • @robertdominiczak6523
      @robertdominiczak6523 2 роки тому +8

      I have a Jeep Wrangler,had it 22 years no breakdowns also have a UAZ 405 van petrol gas not broken down yet but if I do the parts are dirt cheap and they can be fixed on the side of the road in fact you could rebuild it on the side of the road so simple.

    • @mikkei3532
      @mikkei3532 2 роки тому +7

      it is not for stupid people and stupid mechanic

  • @johnerdis5094
    @johnerdis5094 2 роки тому +167

    This is why I love your channel. One day it's a 70 year old relic tractor, the next a 90's USA pickup and the next a euro nightmare. Not many mechanics on the tube will tackle all comers, but Wes will.

    • @constitutionalUSA
      @constitutionalUSA 2 роки тому +10

      Don't forget the cub cadet and the dishwasher

    • @DanEBoyd
      @DanEBoyd 2 роки тому +1

      @@constitutionalUSA And all of that CAD stuff in the early videos...

    • @feron450
      @feron450 2 роки тому +2

      Between Wes, South Main Auto, and Rainman Ray. I have a trifecta of great mechanics that happen to be on youtube to watch and learn from.

  • @johndeerekid167
    @johndeerekid167 2 роки тому +11

    As a Euro auto maintainer, the sight of a Üro Parts box alone can make a guy blackout into a rage induced coma. May God have mercy on your soul.
    And FCP Euro is by far the best place to go for OEM euro parts. And everything is warrantied for life.

  • @Moe_Fogerty
    @Moe_Fogerty 2 роки тому +4

    I was excited to hear a Thoreau reference! "If a man get no more from his employer than pay, then he is truly cheated."

  • @gman2974
    @gman2974 2 роки тому +119

    Sounds to me the customer knew there was a serious problem eating belts if it came to you without belts. The customer should tell the whole story.

    • @bigskydude8068
      @bigskydude8068 2 роки тому +11

      EXACTLY....😏

    • @dev-debug
      @dev-debug 2 роки тому +9

      Was thinking the same thing.

    • @GarryFishermusic
      @GarryFishermusic 2 роки тому +7

      Right no belt is the evidence the problem was preexisting. I would like to now who was the last shop mechanic for that prize auto .

    • @andreooooo934
      @andreooooo934 2 роки тому +6

      Jobs like that just arnt fair. Have had a couple vehicles come in with intermittent issues and customer leaves out crical information

    • @ronaldderooij1774
      @ronaldderooij1774 Рік тому

      So what? It ate a belt, it needs repair. That is all the customer and the mech have to know. It is up to the mechanic to figure out what is wrong with it.

  • @Rapsgarage
    @Rapsgarage 2 роки тому +2

    I once owned a Porsche 944. I complained to the dealer about the cost of parts. His response was "be glad it's not an Audi". I made sure to never buy any German car again. This was in the early 90's...

  • @randyirons1058
    @randyirons1058 2 роки тому +104

    As a technician and a former Audi owner, I felt your frustration. "Maintenance Position" ends up having a double meaning. I loved driving the car, it was comfortable, fun and handled like a dream. When maintenance time came you understood where the term "10 pounds of S#^T in a 5 pound bag" comes from. Over-engineering at its finest! Here's hoping you and Mrs. Wes had a fun date night after all of that. I look forward to your content each week. Thanks for sharing your time.

    • @gmcman355crazy
      @gmcman355crazy 2 роки тому +9

      Maintenance position and assume the position is the same when working on German over priced junk lol

    • @TsunauticusIV
      @TsunauticusIV 2 роки тому +5

      I can hear “assume the position” in Fisto from fallout voice right now. 😂 Audi. 🤮 can’t believe he agreed to work on an Audi. He must be desperate to go broke. 😂

    • @garrettschweitzer7138
      @garrettschweitzer7138 2 роки тому +4

      @@TsunauticusIV good thing you left a Fisto comment because otherwise it would have been me.

    • @TsunauticusIV
      @TsunauticusIV 2 роки тому +4

      @@garrettschweitzer7138 PLEase ASSume THe PosItiOn 🤖 🤜 💥 😯

    • @feron450
      @feron450 2 роки тому +1

      Porsche and Audi both win an award for being stubborn. The 911 with the rear engine took decades to finally make it great. And audi with the engine so far forward that the front clip has to be removed to replace a drive belt. Man those Germans don’t give up on their bad design choices they just engineer it into complicated oblivion. But man are they fun to drive when they aren’t broken.

  • @Domnaek
    @Domnaek 2 роки тому +9

    As a workshop owner in Germany, I have to say the same about availability of parts for american vehicles... I had a 1996 Chevy Van in the shop a couple of weeks ago. I couldnt even source the proper Oil filter from any of my suppliers.
    But yeah its true, Audis are a nightmare to work on. Especially the V6s and V8s. You have to have baby oranghutan arms to do any work in the engine bay :D

    • @ericrotermund1004
      @ericrotermund1004 2 роки тому

      Cars in the $50-60 k range
      Are all pretty hard to work on in my experience.
      Seems to me a good argument to buy a Tesla.
      At least you know ahead of time you cannot have parts and they aren’t really repairable.
      They drive better than most in the same price point.

  • @IBenZik
    @IBenZik 2 роки тому +34

    @0:58, I had a 1989 Ford 150 Econoline with a 5 liter engine. Went through 6 fan belts in about 3,000 miles. Filed under Wisconsin lemon law. When the engine was on the drilling jig is was cockeyed and one of the items was not straight. IE not parallel with the crank pulley. All I asked for was a brand new engine and Ford said no. Cost Ford $90,000 to buy back a $28,000 van.
    I feel your pain.

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 роки тому +15

      I had a 350 Chevy like that once, but it was just a bracket that could be replaced.

  • @knockywigglesworth1909
    @knockywigglesworth1909 Рік тому +3

    No parts in rural Illinois cause farm people are smart. They don't want a VW much less a fancier less reliable VAG car that breaks alot is costly & difficult to maintain... yep, smart!!

  • @jeffcarruthers2605
    @jeffcarruthers2605 2 роки тому +213

    I spent a long period of time during my tenure as an automotive tech with VW/Audi/Porsche starting in 1973. The downward spiral really started in the 90s. Same problems over and over again. As a flat rate tech, this proved to very lucrative. It reached a point where I just got sick of these cars. The Porsche dealer I worked for also had a Subaru franchise. The most striking thing I remember was when a Subaru came in for a minor or major service, 90% of the time that was the only item on the work order. The German brands had the service and at least half a dozen more items. Always the same things. I could diagnose each item on the way out to get the car. Any time I hear the German engineering thing, I just laugh at anyone who believes it. You want to know the truth about a particular car? Talk to the guys and gals who work on them.

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy 2 роки тому +43

      I speak mainly as a forklift mechanic but these are my observed main differences between German and Japanese engineering...
      Germans engineering - as complicated as it can be for the sake of it. Their engineering all seems to be ego driven, d@&k waving, 'look how clever we are'
      Japanese engineering - as complicated as it needs to be but no more.
      The Japanese are very good and keeping focus on the requirements of the thing they're building - not automatically over-engineering everything like its being sent to the moon.

    • @sebastianbrrrr7372
      @sebastianbrrrr7372 2 роки тому +13

      Sad but true. I am German and I usually don't touch any German car built after 2000. Same with Volvos though, my favorite brand.

    • @Martin.Wilson
      @Martin.Wilson 2 роки тому +51

      I had a 2006 BMW 325ix and found it to be the most ridiculously over-engineered car I'd ever seen. In the 5 yrs I owned it, I don't think 2 weeks went by without a dashboard light coming on for something. When my wife would ask what the service light was for, I told her that it was linked our bank account and lit up whenever we had too much money in the account. That did it for me and German cars

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy 2 роки тому +15

      @@sebastianbrrrr7372 It's a crying shame, my only car is an '88 VW mk2 golf 16v.
      Its easy to work on, not overly complicated and build quality is excellent. Has 205K miles on the clock and runs like a champ, that was old school German engineering and it was excellent.

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy 2 роки тому

      @@Martin.Wilson It's almost like the Germans have an 'immaturity' with electronics - they just have to stuff it into everything for the hell of it.
      The Japanese seem to have a lot more 'maturity' with how electronics are applied - they will use it to their advantage if it's appropriate but seem to stick to simpler solutions if it's practical.

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 роки тому +3

    So Euro! Definitely accurate on getting Euro parts...online only and it takes days!

  • @j.markkrzystofiak9907
    @j.markkrzystofiak9907 2 роки тому +97

    “Service position” may have more than one implication with this car…

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 2 роки тому +8

      The customer has to adopt a more subservient position than the dealer...

    • @jw4620
      @jw4620 2 роки тому +1

      Indeed.

    • @Martin.Wilson
      @Martin.Wilson 2 роки тому +11

      The main service position is bent over the hood with your pants down.

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy 2 роки тому +1

      @@Martin.Wilson Yup, hard and dry

    • @mikemaccracken3112
      @mikemaccracken3112 2 роки тому

      @@Martin.Wilson 😂😂😂

  • @minadams2337
    @minadams2337 2 роки тому +2

    This has to be my #1 favorite Intro- Honesty and Snarkiness at its finest!!

  • @seastacker8582
    @seastacker8582 2 роки тому +31

    Great cars to lease and give back before the problems start. Total nightmare in terms of ownership.
    Also… The Critical Drinker….A++. Love that channel.

    • @aserta
      @aserta 2 роки тому

      Well, yeah, because it's a high maintenance car meant to be taken care off at every tweak and twist. Keep them happy and they work, ignore them even a little and you might as well try to drive a pedal car.

    • @ckm-mkc
      @ckm-mkc 2 роки тому +1

      @@hoppingrabbit9849 It's the price you pay for high performance, high spec cars. Most people don't understand that manufacturers only care that it lasts the warranty period - after that you are on your own. Parts & repairs are expensive and people buy these cars cheaply and don't do the maintenance because its "too expensive". The result is that problems stack up and you get giant repair bills. As another YT said, old luxury cars maybe cheap to buy but their maintenance cost is proportional to their high original price tags....

    • @stxrynn
      @stxrynn 2 роки тому +1

      Don't you have to play German marching music at low volume when you garage them? Just like a lullaby to keep them happy? I think I read that somewhere.... Or was it an open can of sour kraut near the radiator? Getting old and CRS.... gotta love it. Whoa!!!! maybe it was Rammstein that was supposed to be playing "softly"....

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 2 роки тому

      I've leased once before. The car was good but the Service dept. was TERRIBLE. I almost got into a fistfight with the service rider (writer) manager. THere was screaming and yelling. It was a 2015 Jeep I think ( I forgot). The car was great, but I knew there's be problems and I ain't puttin' up with that kinda nonsense. The Jeep management took my letter of complaint, crumpled it up and threw it away, I'm sure.

    • @awakenotwoke1973
      @awakenotwoke1973 2 роки тому +2

      Go away now!

  • @terryraymond7984
    @terryraymond7984 2 роки тому +1

    My VW was made in 1981 very little plastic has 200,000 miles on it and runs like a champ 🙂

  • @jeffreyleonard9800
    @jeffreyleonard9800 2 роки тому +52

    That crank pulley separation is a very common problem on that engine. I knew what was wrong when I saw the title of the video.
    The separated pulley really gets out of alignment when it gets wet with the engine running (like driving in the rain).
    They actually make one piece pulleys so you only need to replace it once.

    • @henryD9363
      @henryD9363 2 роки тому +9

      An Audi engineer had an extra 20 work hours to fill. So he designed the two part pulley.

    • @toma5153
      @toma5153 2 роки тому +3

      Recommend pinning this comment. Maybe there's a TSB as well. For future Audi owners looking to UA-cam for help.

  • @handyhippie6548
    @handyhippie6548 2 роки тому +18

    the more i watch your channel, the happier i am that i changed my career from auto tech, to carpenter 25 years ago. i still work on cars, but i choose what i work on, not simply whatever a customer brings in to me. i both salute your fortitude, and pity your situation. go team wes!

  • @donaldpeterson9521
    @donaldpeterson9521 2 роки тому +37

    Experience is a hard teacher, BUT you never forget the lesson. Glad that you made the video, you have probably helped a number of people to understand the kind of problems that mechanics run into. Some design engineers should be shot on sight to prevent this kind of stupidity. The new cars with their shields and plastic nonsense should have a service person's viewpoint in mind when making products. Nice to see that an auto mechanic who makes a reference to Thoreau, you are a unique person. Love your sense of humor!

    • @maritimezhang
      @maritimezhang 2 роки тому

      Tell the crybabies to stop letting the government interfere with car standards. Only then will less plastic be used. Customers want speed, government want fuel efficiency, as a result more plastics!!!!!!!

    • @karlaudi9104
      @karlaudi9104 2 роки тому +1

      @@maritimezhang This car was built for a world where it is legally required to be inspected every year for safety and mechanical soundness. While spending much of its time traveling on freeways with no speed limits.

  • @danielmurphy9140
    @danielmurphy9140 2 роки тому +1

    After watching you when I say my prayers at night I thank God he did not make me a mechanic. I was a soldier for 40 years with Vietnam service and all. In Germany, I watched just the feet of a mechanic waving in the air as he was deep into the engine. The temperature was minus 26 degrees. As a civilian, I sold Audi and Porshe vehicles and in the mechanic bay, I heard cursing like I never heard in the Army. Now I know why. We had one mechanic that worked on Porsche only. No one messed with him.

  • @lisashiela9137
    @lisashiela9137 2 роки тому +11

    At least you found something wrong. It's really bad when a comeback returns and you cant find nothing. Regardless we have a "can not work on" list and Audi is one of them due to many things beyond our control.

  • @mikeb1
    @mikeb1 2 роки тому +18

    Wes is the best mechanic by far that I've found on UA-cam. As someone in the UK who has owned 2 V6 Passats (which are basically the same as the Audis with the same engine), I've found them very reliable - my first did over 200k miles with no major issues at all - but most Passats and Audis are 4 cylinder diesels and the designers were squeezing a big engine into a small space with these V6's. Even "big" European cars are smaller than a lot of US cars. I am impressed with how easy some US cars seem to be to work on, but the fit and finish also seem to be a bit poorer in comparison sometimes. You pay your money and make your choice... If this car did have a front end collision which was not repaired properly, that's hardly Wes's or Audi's responsibility.

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 роки тому +6

      US cars have the bias of often being either large SUVs or pickups, both of which are stretching the max size of cars that could fit on European roads. It is no surprise that VAG produces cars that are horrible to work on by fitting a V6, V8 or V10 + all the luxury accessories into something the size of a Camry

  • @stevesideris8364
    @stevesideris8364 2 роки тому +19

    As a former BMW owner, I sympathize with you Wes. This video brought back my PTSD.

    • @silentepsilon888
      @silentepsilon888 2 роки тому +4

      you mean PBMWSD?

    • @pi1797
      @pi1797 2 роки тому +2

      I thought it would PTBMWSD… 😂😂

  • @rlansdell7925
    @rlansdell7925 2 роки тому +1

    You are my favorite channel. I am so grateful for you Wes.

  • @Daydreaminginmono
    @Daydreaminginmono 2 роки тому +14

    Subtle art of losing money, LOL nice one wes, thanks for another vid!

  • @MortskeRepair
    @MortskeRepair 2 роки тому +1

    Dang, you never have cool Euro trash stuff in the shop when I stop by...

  • @Robert-S-
    @Robert-S- 2 роки тому +132

    As soon as I saw the shredded belt I immediately knew you had an alignment issue with another pulley. I've run into this 2x over the years personally, once was the balancer seperating like you saw here, and the other was a power steering pump failure where the shaft had enough play in it to allow the pulley to wobble. Luckily in both my cases, there was a much easier access pathway than you experienced. Glad you finally found the problem, and here's hoping that car doesn't continue to haunt you.

    • @LAactor
      @LAactor 2 роки тому +4

      I thought the same thing and immediately thought of VGG's thrown belt off that monster rod he's got. His wasn't front end damage but bolt on remote mount accessory position, but basically same difference. Don't guarantee collision cars.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 2 роки тому +3

      Ive also had supercharger problems causing the belt to slip intermittently over time shredding belts..

  • @robertmedina6875
    @robertmedina6875 2 роки тому +1

    Oh you guys are such a cute couple! Family is awesome! Love your channel! Keep those videos coming lol

  • @johnbellas490
    @johnbellas490 2 роки тому +42

    I had an Audi at one time and found out the time in ordering parts and waiting for them as well as the high and difficult maintenance of said parts like you have already mentioned, because of all
    the above I will never own another Audi!! I want to thank you Wes for doing all that you do to make these interesting videos!! I thank you and your wife very much!!

    • @46bovine
      @46bovine 2 роки тому

      Yes, I agree. Thanks Wes.

    • @dustywhite7195
      @dustywhite7195 2 роки тому

      Spent more money on maintenance in two years than I paid for the car

  • @gmcman355crazy
    @gmcman355crazy 2 роки тому

    You taking care of the customer like that will make you more money because you will have a word of mouth that your a good honest mechanic :-)

  • @grendel1960a
    @grendel1960a 2 роки тому +21

    i had a volvo that shredded a belt, I was lucky, I caught it when the belt was still 1/4" wide, put on a new belt, and next time i checked a few days later it had gone down by 1 rib in width, careful observation finally led me to the cause, the crankshaft pulley (damper pulley) was moving side to side the same as the one you showed, the issue was it only did it when it had warmed up, when cold, the rubber part stuck back together, only breaking free when it warmed up, so as soon as I saw the issue I thought crankshaft pulley, once its got you once, its something you will check as its the most likely cause (another cause can be a seized alternator clutch pulley (dont ask))

  • @louis111
    @louis111 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Wes, never an Audi for me, I will stick with my 2002 Toyota Camry.

  • @unclegreybeard3969
    @unclegreybeard3969 2 роки тому +67

    I wonder how much of this work was caused by the vehicle not being repaired properly following whatever caused the front end damage in the first place.

    • @rhkavli
      @rhkavli 2 роки тому +11

      None. Vibration damper separation is quite common both for VAG and other brands.

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 роки тому +9

      It is very much possible that the pulleys were impacted, but were not replaced because they looked fine on the outside

    • @andrewmantle7627
      @andrewmantle7627 2 роки тому +4

      I thought exactly the same thing. Once you whack the front of these things, (or most modern vehicles, you've got endless unseen grief.

  • @klydolph2
    @klydolph2 2 роки тому +30

    Nice video. I have a 2002 Passat that has tested my sanity numerous times. One thing to check; on the alternator - the pulley is not just a pulley. It is a one way thingy - drives the alternator in one direction, but just freewheeling in the other direction. These will cease up more or less with time and put a lot of stress on other components driven by the belt, including the belt itself. Mine ate up the bearing in the tensioner pulley before I found out the cause. Made a lot of strange noises too.
    I've been out with the front of the car so many times I think I can put the front of das Auto in service position in my sleep.
    But what really tests your patience is when you have to go inside the doors to replace locks, window elevator mechanism etc. That can be a bad bad job.
    And I can confirm that all plastic you touch will break - sometimes it will break by just looking hard at it.
    I have no idea how german engineering supposedly has such a good rep. Thats not my experience.

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 роки тому +1

      With a 90s-00s+ VAG product, the locks are either broken or about to break.

    • @danmackintosh6325
      @danmackintosh6325 2 роки тому +1

      @@lolatmyage Barrels seized but all locks working on our 2 golfs for over a year... maybe I ought not have said that, I'll go out and find one or both has drained it's battery just to spite me

    • @ericrotermund1004
      @ericrotermund1004 2 роки тому +2

      Didn’t need to say anything more than
      I have a Passat.
      I don’t get why anyone would buy one

    • @diesel1024
      @diesel1024 2 роки тому

      I have a 2001 Passat, 2.8 30V. I'm not sure if it's where I live, or that it is stored in a garage, but everything has held up without issues, especially the interior. Only have ever had to do engine work and I do it all myself. Only broken plastic trying to rush getting things off, or pulling too hard, like I tend to do. I have a buddy with 5 Passats down in Arizona, he tells me he buys window regulators in bulk due to the heat destroying them.

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 роки тому

      @@diesel1024 how many miles? I bought one with 120k and the locks were all pre-broken lol

  • @ncplantdoctor
    @ncplantdoctor 2 роки тому +12

    This video brought back memories of when I brought a brand new 1971 Audi 100LS back from Germany with me. In 30 K miles, I replaced 4 alternators because of burned out diodes. I also had bent valves twice after dealer visits and when I showed my German language repair manual to the shop forman, we realized that the lash settings in the English manual were too tight. And the timing chain liked to jump a tooth. Never a good buy to own an Audi.

  • @DieselCreek
    @DieselCreek 2 роки тому +2

    Burn the Car......

  • @jamesbt2003
    @jamesbt2003 2 роки тому +18

    I feel your pain and love the sarcasm when your working on everybody's crap! Keep on trucking!

  • @johnbrossack3791
    @johnbrossack3791 2 роки тому +1

    With all due respect for you trying to satisfy your customer, these "German Engineered boutique cars need to be sent back to the dealer. Audi, MB, Porche, VW need to be sent back home to have their problems resolved. Kudos to you for trying to resolve the issue, but, in my opinion let the "German Engineered' technicians solve the problem, with the attendant charges.

  • @dmmaddex
    @dmmaddex 2 роки тому +12

    great display of patience, Wes.

  • @clifbradley
    @clifbradley 2 роки тому +2

    Poor Wes. You are the man though. Scotty Kilmer could have had that whole thing done in 3 hours I'm sure. Lol. I'm kidding. He would have screwed it up so much and probably told the customer the engine was blown or something.

  • @nbrowser
    @nbrowser 2 роки тому +7

    Ahhhh a Four Ring Circus car...Wes I feel your pain.

    • @Farm_fab
      @Farm_fab 2 роки тому +3

      I've heard that marriage is a three ring circus. First comes the engagement ring, followed by the wedding ring, which is in turn followed by the suffer-ring.😁

    • @horstszibulski19
      @horstszibulski19 2 роки тому

      @@Farm_fab 🤣🤣🤣

  • @elmustachio3683
    @elmustachio3683 2 роки тому +1

    Damn!!! Have to dIsassemble the whole front end to get to the accessory drive belt. For giggles, lookup the maintenance procedures for a W12 VW/Audi and see how many start with “Step 1: Remove engine and transmission from vehicle.”

  • @ThatPNWGuy2024
    @ThatPNWGuy2024 2 роки тому +18

    Worked on one Audi, an A8. Never again. Hard pass. From one Wes to another thanks as always for the videos.
    Cheers

  • @tacomas9602
    @tacomas9602 2 роки тому

    0:33 truth be told Wes even if so you’re the only channel I watch religiously! You’re a good man Wes! If I was old enough I’d buy you a case of your favorite beverage. Rock on.

  • @boowiebear
    @boowiebear 2 роки тому +8

    Great point about everyone losing with comebacks. Doesn’t seem it could be avoided based on the unforeseen failures.

  • @Peter-td3yk
    @Peter-td3yk 2 роки тому +1

    I tried to get a squeek out of my altimas front end..took struts out 3 times.. I love quiet.. No tsb from nissan.. I tried honda for a tsb, yup they sure had one.. It worked for the squeeks from my front end.. one was the plastic covers on lower spring. (wear out)I heated and flipped the tubing to a fresh side lubed multiple areas as per HONDAS tsb..... Fixed it.. The rear was a worn swar bar bushing.. Ahhh quiet..

  • @pheffr
    @pheffr 2 роки тому +25

    I don't know how different it is for this Audi, but I know that, for my old Passat, if I'm going as far as to put the core support into service mode, I'm two hoses, three wire connections, and a couple of AC condenser mounting bolts away from removing the nose of the car entirely. I just laid the AC condenser to the side and slid the radiator out with the front assembly. Then I didn't have to fight with everything in a four inch gap.

    • @sebastianbrrrr7372
      @sebastianbrrrr7372 2 роки тому +2

      You said it: old. One day VW thought 'what the heck, warranty is 2 years...'

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah it seems like "service mode" is "remove the entire front end" with marginally fewer steps

  • @jarretpeart2833
    @jarretpeart2833 2 роки тому +6

    I feel your pain Wes. I am not a mechanic by trade, but have done all my own work for most of my life. My wife's dad bought her a used 1987 5000cs turbo quattro when she was still in college. I can't remember specifics of the problem, but it is the only vehicle that ever actually brought me to tears working on it. I think it was some kind of fuel issue that I could not figure out. A junkyard headlight was $300.00 in the mid 90's. I gave it away after it caught fire in the driveway.

    • @Martin.Wilson
      @Martin.Wilson Рік тому

      My best friend is a mechanic. I called him one day when he'd been working on an Audi for hours and casually asked him how it was going. His response was "I'm having the kind of day that would make God kick his dog through a hedge". That pretty much sums up working on German cars.

  • @tacomas9602
    @tacomas9602 2 роки тому +6

    I can relate to this, it’s like when I initially got my old Allis Chalmers garden tractor going. Went through 4 deck belts and one drive belt for the mower deck before I made new idler pulley brackets and belt guides, lol.

  • @johnburch6927
    @johnburch6927 4 місяці тому

    You have got to be one of the most calming channels I watch. Thank you for being very methodical, structured and level headed......the exact opposite of me, most of the time..lol

  • @rolf_pedersen
    @rolf_pedersen 2 роки тому +27

    You just saved me from trading in my '93 Chevy S10 on a 2009 Audi...or anything Audi, for that matter. Thanks for the videos!

    • @henryD9363
      @henryD9363 2 роки тому +2

      In the nick of time!

    • @brucehayes7251
      @brucehayes7251 2 роки тому +2

      My daughter bought a very slightly used Audi,against my protest,she now agrees with my point of view,over engineering implies faultless performance,ha.... And parts,$1500 Aus to replace battery,dealer service to protect the warranty,you couldn't pay me to own an audi

  • @brianm9007
    @brianm9007 2 роки тому +1

    This intro is your best one yet! I've watched it at least a dozen times, and laugh just as hard every time!! You're the best, Wes!

  • @robertdominiczak6523
    @robertdominiczak6523 2 роки тому +5

    When I lived in England I owned mercs bmw and Audi and all the other European crap then changed to American cars and Eastern European cars with no problems, living in Bulgaria now,I own a Jeep and a UAZ van fantastic motors never let me down.

  • @toma5153
    @toma5153 2 роки тому +22

    Wes has helped a lot of independent garages: Decline this job and direct the owner to the dealer.

  • @thelol1759
    @thelol1759 2 роки тому +76

    Hey Wes, when I owned my 02 TT and did all my own work, I quickly learned that any repair required lots of planning. And it’s one of the few vehicles where “while you’re in there” isn’t just an excuse to spend money. If you can replace it, you need to!

    • @thelol1759
      @thelol1759 2 роки тому +8

      I did the timing belt, tensioner, water pump, accessory belt, valve cover, cam tensioner, plugs, and everything else in their way at the same time. Less than 800 bucks in parts, but after that you’re good for another 75k miles. And you already replaced everything, so there’s nothing left to break 😂

    • @atzgfq23
      @atzgfq23 2 роки тому +1

      @@thelol1759 *just finshed changing power steering pump in a chevy 4.2l silverado* simple as simple gets now the replace everything sounds really not fun. at all!

    • @thelol1759
      @thelol1759 2 роки тому +1

      @@atzgfq23 I own an 04 chevy blazer now and wish I had that audi engine in it! the 4.3 vortec sucks!

    • @petermolnar8667
      @petermolnar8667 2 роки тому

      @@thelol1759 Belt so 1.8T? If it has some miles on it, it’s recommended to take the oil pan off and clean/replace the oil pickup due to carbon-ish stuff plugging it

    • @thelol1759
      @thelol1759 2 роки тому +1

      @@petermolnar8667 Interesting, I'd never heard that! I changed my oil every 2k miles when I owned it (excessive, I know) so hopefully that helped.

  • @lawrenceedwards6327
    @lawrenceedwards6327 Рік тому

    Twenty years ago, I worked as a delivery driver for a tiny independent auto parts store. I remember walking into a shop where an old timer was swearing a blue streak about having to remove the fender from a Ford Taurus to replace the alternator. I could only imagine old Don Frenzel’s comments if he had to work on that Audi.
    Great video, as always!!

  • @nancykitzinger3078
    @nancykitzinger3078 2 роки тому +5

    Thats got to be frustrating as heck! Good job getting it resolved!

  • @Oddman1980
    @Oddman1980 Рік тому

    When I'm frustrated or tired after working on my project car (a Suzuki Samurai!) I watch your videos, and they always remind me: It could be worse.

  • @garyjensen4009
    @garyjensen4009 2 роки тому +23

    Many years ago I owned an Audi A4 that was in a minor accident and needed repair. I went to pick it up in my Volvo XC70. The mechanic looked at me and said get rid of that Audi, it will cause you grief as long as you own it. Also, never sell your XC70. It’s now almost 20 years later. The Audi lasted a few more years and caused me constant problems for as long as I owned it, and I happily got rid of it. The Volvo I still have and it just won’t die.

    • @TheStefanskoglund1
      @TheStefanskoglund1 2 роки тому +1

      I drove a normal V70 from 2000 until 2006, but today I practically hate the current V90/XC90.
      Overpriced and over-sized.
      For some reason or another i have trouble knowing where the car ends at right front wheel.
      I want to be able to easily changes wheels myself (winter/summer changeover etc) but the current far bigger ones is far heavier and clumsy.

  • @chrislambert2889
    @chrislambert2889 2 роки тому +2

    Congratulations on over 200 k subscribers 🎉. And really hope you and the Lady got too see the movie and just chill together.👍

  • @BitterCynical
    @BitterCynical 2 роки тому +7

    I like my Audi A2, I might even somewhat enjoy working on it if I had a proper workshop for it. I like the all aluminum rust proof body and the low fuel consumption. But my experience with local mechanics is such that I might be better off driving a "new" thirty year old rust bucket every other year and doing the bare minimum repairs myself since the older cars don't have everything mashed into a handbasket sized space requiring nearly total dissassembly of the vehicle to change one small thing.

    • @ericrotermund1004
      @ericrotermund1004 2 роки тому

      Germans are the worst at this.
      V6 Honda cars are easy to work on

  • @FishFind3000
    @FishFind3000 2 роки тому +1

    16:50 not all cars come with it. Normally it’s bundled into a winter package.

  • @robj2704
    @robj2704 2 роки тому +9

    What's worse than a 13 y/o Audi? Very few things.

  • @JamesSterling
    @JamesSterling Рік тому

    Thanks for reminding me why I don't own any VW/Audi products. My last one was a New Beetle I bought for my wife. Wes is right. If it is plastic and you touch it, it breaks. And if it can be made of plastic instead of metal it will be, including hose clamps and water pumps. And everything is designed with no thought for ease of repair or maintenance.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 2 роки тому +64

    Great videos as always Wes. Sorry to see you go through a Audi nightmare like this. Its a crying shame Audi or anyone would build a car with a 3.5hr labor to replace a simple belt.

    • @cm.5023
      @cm.5023 2 роки тому

      Both belts can be replaced in 30 min. An hour if its your first time. No need to pull the whole car apart.

    • @brennanlukas5467
      @brennanlukas5467 2 роки тому

      I believe it’s 3.5 hours as the recommended service procedure includes replacing both belts, the tensioners and an idler pulley I believe

    • @elliejackson6907
      @elliejackson6907 2 роки тому

      @@cm.5023 Does that include replacing the crank pulley?

    • @cm.5023
      @cm.5023 2 роки тому

      @@elliejackson6907 belts only.

    • @keithmatthews1673
      @keithmatthews1673 2 роки тому +2

      Audi do not give a shiesse!

  • @kenball8526
    @kenball8526 2 роки тому +1

    May the repair gods bless you Wes!

  • @flocksbyknight
    @flocksbyknight 2 роки тому +6

    As an owner of an older VW and Audi, they seem to really eat the parts after 150k.
    Great for providing content for your channel and headaches for you!

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 роки тому

      Eh, thats like every make/model I deal with. Gm/Ford/Dodge 😉

    • @cm.5023
      @cm.5023 2 роки тому

      How so? Any part that lasts that long is going to need replacing regardless of the make and model. That being said I've had an A6 go over 300k with just tires, oil, filters and plugs. One water pump, thermostat and belts. Still ran fine when we got rid of it.

  • @billmalec
    @billmalec 2 роки тому +1

    2006 Jetta TDI. Just replaced the belt tensioner for the first time a few months ago. Took me, with limited DIY tools like 30 minutes. Alternator still good.
    Was easy as can be. 180,000 mostly trouble- free miles.
    The Husqvarna in my profile pic. 1986. Still going...
    Carry on...

  • @gailtaylor1636
    @gailtaylor1636 2 роки тому +4

    The "later model" (probaby 15 years old), I worked on, they had gotten wiser and ran all the lines on RH side to coolers/condenser. Found could disconnect the fans and all the stuff on LH side of radiator support, then swing whole thing around to the right. Set it all on a jack stand or something. Room to walk right up to it assuming vehicle was raised off the floor some. Could do it all standing up, no bending over. It was worth the extra disassembly for me. Old back.

    • @rhkavli
      @rhkavli 2 роки тому

      Yes. That's the way I usually used too. Actually you could swing the whole pack up on the top of the engine.

  • @ollie-lk5dx
    @ollie-lk5dx 2 роки тому +1

    Nice to see someone getting rain we have been extremely short all summer , we have cracks 2'' wide and several feet deep

  • @blackdogexcavator21
    @blackdogexcavator21 2 роки тому +4

    And just think, a few years ago you could take the engine out of a Volkswagen Beatle by removing the throttle linkage, about 3 wires, and the 4 nuts that connected the engine to the transaxle. 30 mins of work easily. The enginerds in Deutschland are no better than the ones in the US.

  • @thepolkster46
    @thepolkster46 2 роки тому

    I was solicited to put a blower motor in an Audi twenty years ago, and after getting it almost dis-assembled in 100 plus degree heat, having to remove the fascia, and all of bracing for the entire dash assembly to fish out the blower motor that had to be the first part of the vehicle , and every other part of it was added to that blower, like a volvo , but far worse. After getting it almost out after 4 hours, he presented me with a "USED" motor that had more brush wear than the one I was struggling with. I told him , I'm done, enjoy putting it back together yourself, and walked away. You are too good a diagnostician to piss your talents away replacing parts for people who can't really afford an automobile or a truck. Great video, hope you and the other half enjoy the movie and Date night.

  • @mikeaho4143
    @mikeaho4143 2 роки тому +4

    Great vid Wes. I love the real world struggles that you have. Makes me feel better when I’m struggling with some of my repairs. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mikebrunner1577
    @mikebrunner1577 Рік тому

    We will not work on any Euro crap anymore. Stopped years ago. Just is not worth it. You are the Man Wes. I as a viewer, Love your Honesty. Keep up the fantastic work.

  • @davidryder5265
    @davidryder5265 2 роки тому +4

    One of the best channels on you tube thank you sir

  • @scroungasworkshop4663
    @scroungasworkshop4663 2 роки тому +1

    The owner wants it back asap, why? Is he in a hurry to break down again😂. Something I thought was curious, why would they have to put a Californian proposition 65 cancer warning on a harmonic balancer? I’m at a loss to see the connection unless people lick them or something.
    Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺

  • @lackomalacko
    @lackomalacko 2 роки тому +3

    Actually I've seen a very distinctive decline in quality considering Continental belts. I know a lot of people who's complete engine had to be scrapped because a conti timing belt just shredded on its own after 5000km, with no alignment problems or anything. Even had an issue where a conti accessory belt blew up, and got eaten by the timing belt, so same issue engine scrapped... I don't know where continental belts are manufactured that we europeans get, but I hope its not the same as for you in the US. (I clearly see this is not the case here, just sharing info) Hope it will work fine now, nice job as always, keep it up!

    • @lolatmyage
      @lolatmyage 2 роки тому

      As far as I'm concerned, potential poor quality replacement belts or neglected maintenance is just another reason to make a non-interference engine. People are going to be a lot happier if their $400 mishap is not a $4000 engine replacement

    • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
      @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 роки тому

      Oh no...I switched to Continental tbelt kits because Gates was becoming garbage...what to do now??

  • @SamColtHolbrook
    @SamColtHolbrook 2 роки тому +1

    Sorry you are dealing with this crap. I wish I had a mechanic/ technician as good as you. I have seen you take on jobs 99% of shops would not touch. Stay Strong. Your a master mechanic!

  • @DougT25427
    @DougT25427 2 роки тому +1

    As usual the play by play commentary is priceless.
    I see you surpassed 200K subscribers... congratulations

  • @Sitchinte
    @Sitchinte 2 роки тому +13

    Brave to try and repair Euro car. Thought most mechanics simply avoided.

  • @Jordan__Sloan
    @Jordan__Sloan 2 роки тому

    God bless you brother, wrenching on cars takes a special kind of patience. I just start freaking out and my blood pressure skyrockets

  • @mattm6834
    @mattm6834 2 роки тому +5

    If you're going to work on Audis, you need to charge audi labor rates

  • @waterislife.9204
    @waterislife.9204 2 роки тому +1

    That's crazy. But you did a great job fixing it ✌️🙏

  • @davidbillings615
    @davidbillings615 2 роки тому +15

    Wes thanks for being honest. Hope date night went well. I have heard that most of the European cars are really hard to work on.

    • @sebastianbrrrr7372
      @sebastianbrrrr7372 2 роки тому +1

      That is not entirely true, but it is generally a good idea to stay away from everything built after or around 2000.

    • @Mind-your-own-beeswax
      @Mind-your-own-beeswax 2 роки тому +1

      You heard wrong mate. All the cars I’ve had over the last 30 years have been European. No car has been any harder to work on than anything else that includes VW’s.

    • @deezelfairy
      @deezelfairy 2 роки тому +2

      Meh, not really, plenty of European cars are no worse to work to work on than your average Toyota Camry.
      I'm sure there are plenty of nightmare US cars as well.
      I've got a '88 VW golf - very easy car to work on.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 2 роки тому +2

    I bet the crank Dampener and pulley have separated very common issue on these audi's @Watch Wes Work

  • @tda2806
    @tda2806 2 роки тому +30

    Would a variable speed strobe light be a good diagnostic tool for belt problems like these, it would allow you to freeze the motion and perhaps see the side to side wobble?

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 2 роки тому +3

      That is thinking outside the box, sir!

    • @SteelheadTed
      @SteelheadTed 2 роки тому +2

      Excellent idea

    • @gailtaylor1636
      @gailtaylor1636 2 роки тому +2

      I was thinking old-school timing light? Easy to think of AFTER you know what the problem is.

    • @tda2806
      @tda2806 2 роки тому

      @@gailtaylor1636 sadly with 'coil on plug' there is no HT lead to inductively trigger from, so the old school timing light is out. A strobe tachometer might be the most general piece of equipment for the task.

    • @gailtaylor1636
      @gailtaylor1636 2 роки тому +1

      @@tda2806 Pull coil out, run a plug wire from coil to plug. I have a set of wires I made for the Ecotec GM coil assembly. Works great to see which cylinder isn't firing. Same idea here.

  • @robertbullcarmichael9856
    @robertbullcarmichael9856 2 роки тому

    There is a company whose name I cant recall right now, that makes a grapple for a crane. This tool will snatch the motor right out of the engine compartment and make it much easier to throw the junk away. It takes lots of patience to work on some of that foreign stuff. My hats off to you. Keep up the great videos and stay safe my friend.

    • @TheStefanskoglund1
      @TheStefanskoglund1 2 роки тому

      which is partly why so many european cars when they get becomes 5-6 years old ends up being flipped by the second owner (first one sells it after 4 years) to someone.
      And THE US mechanics which is good and not parts-cannon mechanics asks for more money for their work than the current owner is prepared to pay.

  • @dakotataylor7909
    @dakotataylor7909 2 роки тому +7

    Hey wes, interested in how you manage these kinds of situations... Having worked at a euro specialist shop and a dealership that runs away from any euro service, interested to know how you chose to compensate for your "comebacks" on this job. Any way I'm sure you were more than fair as it seems you always are. Try to have a better day than this day seems to have been.

  • @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP
    @HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 2 роки тому +1

    I've seen it done before-
    Use a marker, mark belts & pulleys in a few places, then use
    a variable degree timing light to watch stuff, idle, throttle blips.
    Accessories like a SC can have runout on partial throttle.

  • @ranger178
    @ranger178 2 роки тому +5

    yea a new Wes video remember not to buy Audi

  • @chrisgreenwood271
    @chrisgreenwood271 2 роки тому +1

    we owned an Audi Q2 for just over 3 years from new, not sure the reason why but I just hated the thing, I stopped driving it and left it with the Mrs.
    The auto gearbox had a mind of its own, I was glad to see the back of it, luckily we never had any major issues.

  • @TheHouseBlog
    @TheHouseBlog 2 роки тому +6

    Just a home player but have a VW 99' Passat 1.8t. @ 285k miles. Audi/VW are very similar in construction/service, often the same parts, at least in that era. I don't find it very bothersome to work on. Not having a lift or an engine hoist, I like being able to take the front of the car off to get to tall the goodies, and can drop the tranny with just a set of ramps and floor jack if I need to. As all the plastic parts break, getting the front off gets easier each time too 😅. I understand working on these may not be conducive to a successful money making operation though.

    • @thelol1759
      @thelol1759 2 роки тому +1

      I had a 02 TT Quattro with the AMU 1.8t. Loved that thing like you wouldn’t believe, only problem I had with it was the damn convertible top leaking!

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 2 роки тому +1

    Love some good Audi action!! I still have that a4 turbo here to fix.

  • @eltsennestle998
    @eltsennestle998 2 роки тому +5

    German over engineering. Even in WW 2, German tanks were unreliable, requiring extensive, expensive maintenance that kept high percentages of German armor out of combat, just because. American armor was extremely reliable, as long as it wasn't shot at.

    • @colddiesel
      @colddiesel 2 роки тому +1

      American tanks were excellent for infantry support but too poorly protected for mobile battles. Over engineered German Panzers had 30% of them in the repair shop at any given time. British tanks were hard to stop had reasonable armament but were pathetically slow. The Russian T34's were well armed could take a lot of damage but had a gearbox so crude that the drivers had to kick them into gear. Early in the war the Russian drivers had to be less than 5'4'' or they couldn't see where they were going. But all round the Russian tank was the most effective.

  • @stacydornan9765
    @stacydornan9765 2 роки тому +2

    Why would anyone buy a pos like that 4 hrs to change a belt,AUDI GIVE IT UP BUNCH OF FOOLS

  • @pontiacmaniac2
    @pontiacmaniac2 2 роки тому +3

    The limited government comment gets an instant thumbs up......

    • @WatchWesWork
      @WatchWesWork  2 роки тому +4

      He wrote that in 1861. It hasn't gotten any better since then.

  • @wonjat5
    @wonjat5 2 роки тому +1

    We have all been there, put a clutch in, and the gearbox (having shown no symptoms whatsoever expires the next day) hope you can at least recover some of the costs. I wondered how many belts had been fitted prior to the vehicle arriving at your shop. Thanks for being game enough to put the video up. 🇦🇺

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab 2 роки тому +5

    Wes, it might be time for that customer to invest in a bicycle.😁

  • @mikesveganlife4359
    @mikesveganlife4359 2 роки тому +6

    This shows me just how easy I had it when I was working on my 93 SC T-bird. And I thought changing the plugs was challenging. That work for a belt is crazy.

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 2 роки тому

      That's a fun heater core to replace as well!