Wes you need to stop putting yourself down! My husband works for a new car dealership where mechanics can barely service new vehicles that are all the same make. Here you are servicing everything under the sun and doing a great job of it! You are a special kind of mechanic that this world needs more of! Keep up the GREAT work.
Self-deprecation keeps you humble. The world needs more humble people because we're seriously overstocked on people that for no actual reason believe they're God's gift to the world.
I heard one tech. he had a ''used'' aka like 1 2 year old vehicle and was complaining about one of the caliper slide pins being seized...like. That's nearly every other brake job. That, a seized piston, leaky piston, chewed out everything. Nothing is as it seems. Can't just quote rotors and pads and call it done. Same with most repairs.
@@robertappleyard7053 I have one customer right now which want’s me to completely re-do the wiring on the equipment trailer that is rotten to unbelief. And I don’t want to do it, and he insists, and I can’t say no because he gives me a lot of work. 😳🤨
As plenty of other people have said, the folks in your area are lucky to have such a competent and diligent mechanic. As far as jobs like that go, I think there are two options: time and materials or refusal, you're right to say you can't keep losing money on work like that. Keep your chin up, you're a great guy.
@@marcelw223 As I said earlier, Wes could say look I might have to charge you the hours it takes rather than the book hrs otherwise I can't afford to do it. I think most could or would understand?
Wes as a small business owner in the same boat only difference between us is I run a service truck too. I can understand where you’re coming from with jobs like that. I consider them necessary evils. Only advice I can give you is when I get trucks in like that I always tell the customer it’s time and materials. I.E whatever it takes to fix it (usually everything) and how much time I punch on it. Keep up the good work.
@@dondalrymple5794 As someone with an old crusty truck I'll take the hit on the bill to simply find someone who will fix it right. I can do a lot but I can't do everything and without a shop I'm very limited in the winter.
Tip for dealing with jobs like that - only sell them as an hourly job! ? If its a repeat customer, they probably trust you, and being a plow truck it may worth alot more to get it running than you would think. They may be happy pay to get it fixed right :)
Don't get discouraged Wes! If you would've sat on the couch that day, then you wouldn't have made this awesome video. Some people like watching the struggle! I love your positive attitude even when the day goes sideways.
This will (correctly) date me as a child of the 1970s, but watching that picture of Orange Tang being poured into the radiator really brought back some memories. It's what the astronauts drank!
Don't worry so much about "Book Time", the truck didn't come factory with the "Hydraulic Pump & Snow Plow" that had to be removed......."It Is What, It Is!"
Plow trucks are time and materials. No up front quotes and no guarantees. Just make sure they are aware it is possible this $500 repair turns into a $5000 repair. If they are good with that then you can't loose and you likely will stay busy. 🙂
Yep, and no limits on materials for these jobs. If I put a hole in the radiator changing the PS pump, customer pays. Broken windscreen while I change the rear brakes -- customer pays.
Wes, you are hands down the best youtube channel out there. Everything you do is so relatable. Some channels sugar coat procedures, but your emotions tell the story. Most things you do are unique as well without many repeat videos which makes great content. I eagerly look forward to your next video. Thanks for all you do.
💯 percent agree. Your content is unique and one of the only chanel's on youtube I look forward to. You Never disguise the truth about the struggle and damn can you drive it. Gives me inspiration when my struggle bus comes around, I really think about how you never quit, but mine is self inflicted as I only work ony stuff. Please don't do 50 vids of brake jobs just for content. your wife adds good comedy when you need her help. love the dog in mouser mode . Hang in Wes.
FWIW, the plow truck videos are my favorite. I guess it's because I learn the most seeing how someone who knows what he's doing handles a series of worst case scenarios and everything going wrong - and you always do such a great job with it. I'm also a small business owner in another industry so I certainly understand the reasoning to turn future jobs down. Hopefully the UA-cam revenue eventually makes up for the loss.
Oh the yt revenue is flowing for Wes, why do you think we only get one video every other week or so, it's not lack of customers, it's lack of want. But I could be wrong, who knows.
Not only is it extremely entertaining to watch Wes put up with ridiculous engeneering on vehicles without cussing up a storm like a drunken sailor. It's awesome a Millinial like Wes loves CSNY songs recorded most likely before Wes's father was even born. I bought that album when it came out, yes, I'm that old. RIP, music icon David Crosby. Thanks Wes, now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head for days :•)
I think Wes may be just before the millennial generation. I think he's in his first half of his 40's, so born in the Gen X, which goes from 1965-1980, yes, that's right, he is likely the same generation as me, born in 1965. We both like many songs from CSN&Y. Millennial generation is from 1980-1996, with some sources saying as late as early 2000's, but most do say, to 1996. Given that context, his parents may have known about the Kent State debacle in 1970, if not were teens, early 20's then. As a context, my parents are of a generation born in the late 20's to mid 30's, married in 1954, had their first child, my oldest sister in 1956, had 2 more by 1959, and me in 1965. Dad served for about a while in Vietnam in 1968, retiring in 1970-71 and died in 1998 at 70. Being the youngest, I'm 58, just turned 58 last month. The 2 remaining sisters are in their mid 60's, one died of brain cancer 2 years ago at 62. I have nieces and a nephew that all are in their late 20's to early 30's at their youngest and the oldest ones 40-45 years old now.
@@johnhpalmer6098. The term millinial wiuld desigate someone born before the millinium and after within a range of 8 to 10 years. Generations range from the age the majority of females getting pregnant till the next group kicks in around the same age as the last. Due to social changes in legalities it's beem streached out since my Mothers generation as it wasn't unusual for females to be married at 16 like my Mom was as a just post war bride. These days it's frowned on. I learned that from a college anthropology Professor. There's about 6 different sources that move it around as they please.
Wes, I’m a self employed carpenter and I’ve been following since this was a machinist channel :) I recently had to make a very similar decision and I TOTALLY feel the same way. It’s the hardest thing to do but you gotta do it. Best wishes.
I was a shop owner and I made it perfectly clear when a rust bucket came in that I would not be responsible for rusted part removal that needed to be taken out to do repairs, Just like You I had a ton of Crap break and I would eat the cost, But that changed real fast because I started to factor in the unknown and if I did get it done without parts breaking they didn't get charged for it! Protect Your Self Wes and take care Bud!
In Australia we have compulsory yearly safety inspections for cars, I sometimes curse them when our cars are due, but the other edge of that sword is that the cars driving around on our roads are all safe and sturdy, there are no really terrible rust-buckets. The exceptions are the farm and big property vehicles of course, but as most of rural Australia is hot and dry and we never put salt on the roads ever those vehicles are mostly fine as well. In fact it's well known that if you're after an older vehicle still in good condition the best place to find them is in the country because they won't have any rust ( no salted roads and hundreds of miles from the coast). When I see some of the vehicles Wes works on over there in America I nearly fall off my chair at how rusty and dodgy they are. Those vehicles would NEVER pass inspection in Australia, they'd be sent straight to the scrapyard. It's unbelievable to me the road authorities in the US allow those deathtraps on the roads. The other advantage of keeping vehicles safety inspected and roadworthy is that they are generally easier to work on because there's no really rusted on junk, most of the cars are at least in passable condition. There is still a little bit of dodgy stuff of course, and a few questionable mechanics, but generally it's nowhere near as bad.
@@woopimagpie in the northeast US, most states do require annual safety inspections. We also have to look towards warmer drier areas of the country where salt hasn't destroyed everything over 8 years old if we want an older vehicle that isn't rotted out or well on its way to being rotted out.
I could just hear myself talking to the parts(as I often do)while watching the video, “oh, you’re coming out of there all right, one way or another!!!”😅 Also, don’t turn away your good customer’s plow trucks, just tell them it’s by the hour, no more hard quoting, and let them be the one to decide.
Anyone with old trucks that expect book time rates are fooling themselves.I get some really abused equipment come through and we go strictly by actual time and parts,and most of the people completely understand.Tell them upfront and if they don't like it they can go elsewhere.
Wes, I aspire to one day be as knowledgeable, as patient, and as kind as you are. It may seem tough at times, but the reality is what you're doing every day is a dream of mine. You've taught me so much, I guess a lot of that comes from the way you go about showing things. I appreciate you Wes.
Thanks for another excellent video. I empathise with your dilemma. Took me years to realise that being a doormat for all and sundry was not good in business of any walk of life. People do not respect you for tackling jobs that are stupid in your professional mind. All too often they just think you are a sucker. I learned only to do such work for real friends; the rest paid up or were told no. Retired now and looking back, saying no was the best decision ever, even in cash strapped times. Cannot get my head around the rusty junk that limps into your shop. Still USA is different to UK where such vehicles would be long crushed. Best wishes from UK.
you'll probably never see this Wes, but if you do, you gotta bill out your hours. don't eat them on your customers behalf. when a rusty shitbox comes in, you immediately add 50% to your hourly rate and tell them straight up that an estimate is just that, an estimate only. rusty stuff turns to shit and you (the customer) has to pay for it. plow truck owners especially should understand., if they don't want to pay, fine. if they do, because they recognize your great work, all the better, be confident in telling customers you will not eat the cost if it turns to shit. they will either take it or leave it.
Great video, I love how you show the "warts and all" angle of what you do. As a small business owner, I hear you on the difficulty in saying "no" to work, but sounds like you've been doing this long enough to make the best call.
I fully agree with the position of 'Time and Materials' including trips to get parts etc. You are NOT a charity. Keep up the Great Work - I know I couldn't or wouldn't do it myself.
Hey Wes..I'm not a mechanic, not even an armchair mechanic. I just really enjoy watching your videos. You have helped my plight in one way however. I also live in the country, and have, like you, many cheese eating friends. They had decided the leads to the coils in my car were quite tasty and ate through them. After seeing all your videos on problem solving, wiring in particular, I felt comfortable enough to take on the task of repairing the leads. All is good under the hood now! Thanks for helping out!
Get yourself a pet python - your cheese eating friends will soon be lunch and your wiring will thank you. 🙂 I'm in Australia, we used to have a bit of a mouse problem but I joined the local WIRES branch (Wildlife Information & Rescue Service) and released a couple of native pythons into the rainforest at the back of our property and hey presto! No more mice. Funny thing is, we almost never see the pythons - maybe once a year we might see one sunning itself out the back but its rare, but we've had no mice for over a decade now.
@@woopimagpie Great suggestion! Over here on the west coast of Canada, pythons aren't as abundant as down under. I do have a pretty darn good mouser cat though! She is on point!
@@fluidgroover polecats, martens,stoats and weasels like the taste of rats, mice and squirrels, if you can keep them around, I’d try keeping a couple of pet ferrets in cages in the garage, most rodents give them a very wide berth.
You are right, not only about a business losing money, it's hard to see something you can fix but to know the time and money invested is not worth it... We're here with you in this, loving every minute of your video. Thanks!
Rusty and Farming are definitely the hardest 😫 😩. Appreciate your pain Wes, lighting and heating a shop isn't cheap. Great job and tribute 👏. Thanks for sharing.
Don’t say no to business. Ask them is it worth your hourly rate no matter what you find? Maybe they say no instead. But they need to take on some of the risk if they say yes. I also assume they plough with it as a business? Tell them there is a bloke in Australia that does them but he’s not very good 🤠 Great video anyway!
Bless your heart Wes. There's not a channel out there more enjoyable to watch while actually learning something. I'm sure you know that your talents are appreciated, but regardless of outcomes, they are. Very best to you and your family.
I had my own business, the hardest thing to say was NO, took me years to be able to say that. But I learned that there were times that you need to say no. You do an excellent job of troubleshooting and repairing these electronically managed and moronically designed vehicles. I am old and these new vehicles definitely not my cup of tea. Keep up the good work.
I grew up in the late 60s and early 70s when CSNY were in their prime. Wes, It’s nice to see that your generation still appreciate great music. Love your channel.
That outro was particularly apt and heartfelt...I appreciated it. Hard to believe this, but now that I know your musical taste I like the channel even more. RIP DC.
Thank you Wes for yet another great episode! You spoke of a great song that you could not share due to copyright infringement. I thought of another song that I cannot share due to copyright infringement, but it has a lot to do with your choice of working on old, rusty, crusty plow trucks. It goes something like "You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run". I know that whatever you choose to do it will be in your best interest for your future.
🔥🔥 🥶 Some day, someone will invent the front of the car that swings out of the way, flips up, drops down…to reveal enough working space. Your hands hurt now? I’m disabled because mine are such a wreck, and I hope you don’t go down that road. Lead to a career change. Best Regards Wes
Crosby Stills and Nash was my first concert-outdoor venue and I was standing with hands on the stage: “Summer Breeze” was my favorite song they played and perhaps this was due to the amazing summer breeze that was about that evening. What a great moment and memory. These old, rusty trucks are a maintenance nightmare and it’s probably time to let a younger, hungrier mechanic take that business-solid reasoning Wes. It looks to me like Max is not a true fan of winter either, but old Phil, whose 40% accurate, says we’re in for six more weeks-bah! ❤️🔧
Great video Wes, I was a mechanic over 35 years, and Wes you will always get some jobs to bite you in the rear, hang in there young man, thank you from New York city
Well Wes... except for a few turns of fate you could have easily been an Engineer designing electro-mechanical do dads. Sitting in a warm office, and not covered in grease and bruises. And probably making twice as much. But then you wouldn't have had us for an audience! 😁 Thanks for the videos! 👍👍
@@WatchWesWork I wondered about that... Your understanding and electronic troubleshooting skills seem way beyond the average mechanic (Electrical Engineer myself) But still, we are glad you are You Tubing with us! 😎😎
@@WatchWesWork I've found in my limited time, that working in an environment you can have fun in and enjoy is better than getting paid twice as much. I have gotten lucky where I work now, EE/CE major and I get to work on dirty Diesel engines setting up test equipment 😁
@@WatchWesWork Well now that you have said that, it all makes sense. I was amazed at your electrical proficiency (i.e., welder repairs) and thought to myself, Wes must have had some really awesome technical training instructors for him to be so proficient in electrical circuit and component theory and operation. I thought that knowledge level to be extraordinary for most in the automotive technical fields (and others). I too am an EE who enjoys working on mechanical assemblies (my own, not for a living) and why I like watching you turn wrenches. It is funny that you often remark how the electrical problems you encounter, especially when following others who really butchered, are the worst. I too hate working on the electrical issues. I know I have heard the click of torque wrenches more than most MEs I work with. Like I said, it all makes sense now.
Had a 95 e350 work van and the water pump went . Broke a whole bunch of bolts trying to get them out . After I got it fixed I got rid of that thing . Rusted old junk sucks working on . I remember standing in the engine bay, obviously with the radiator and fan and shroud out busting up my knuckles . Your videos give the little guy hope in life . Thank you
I was a MC mech for 35 years with my own shop for most of it and one thing I got used to was that a smooth trouble free job was a bonus not a standard. Once I even had a crankcase combustion on a 4cyl bike engine; oil all over me, the whole shop and hours of wasted time and new oil. It was a bonus nay a miracle that the crankcase did NOT break (the oil filter lid blew off like a hand grenade) and the customer (who was present) did not kill me or die of a heart attack. I quickly adopted a saying that kept me surprisingly sane "Nothing is ever so bad that it cant get worse" I am now really enjoying retirement and never showering in warm motor oil ever again.
Wes you are a mechanical hero. Thanks for keeping this crazy variety of machinery running, the snow off the roads and those of us who can't hold a candle to you skills thoroughly fascinated and entertained.
"Judy Blue Eyes"....my favorite. Nature of the business.....there are repairs that are just major headaches. And it's your prerogative to accept or decline. I do enjoy all those long, heavy "sighs"..... they just crack me up! 'Cause you know it's not going well.😂😂
I must say I really admire your honesty in admitting you broke something and making it right, I know it's frustrating but you're a good guy and your payout will come eventually.
I appreciate the video, Wes. I don’t like that the job lost and was a pain. We have crusty old plow trucks in Michigan too, no fun. I’m glad I’m not the only one that calls himself names when he forgets something. Thanks a Bunch. RIP David Crosby.
Folks are lucky to have someone like you to tackle those wrecks. Around here after about 20 years a garage won't tackle them. Smart decision to pick your battles. People will let you lose money on work all day long.
I'm just like you, certain jobs you shout every cuss word in the book at it, you swear you will never do another one. Then the next one shows up and the customer talks you into fixing it just because you can't say no. You do awesome work Wes. Thank you for the great videos.
Just gotta say Wes, you're part of a dying breed. I've worked in the industry for nearly 20 years and seen it first hand how things have changed with serviceability and the skill level of dealer level technicians. You actually know how to fix stuff, and if you don't you can figure it out. A lot of technicians these days don't have the common sense to be able to figure it out. My favourite CSN song is "Helplessly Hoping".
It's tough having ethics when working on projects like this one. You genuinely want to do the job right, and you always do. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions, i think the road to burn out is too.
Its the brutal honesty that i subscribed for. It always pays off in the end. Thanks for staying off the couch and showing the painful reality of your business.
Don't feel bad about turning people away. I got into fixing cars in 1987 because none of the service stations would work on my first one, an inherited 77 VW Rabbit. It's been a great hobby, it taught me a lot of patience and it saves me money. I'm thankful 🙏
I love how you transmit your frustrations yet still tackle the job. Your made all the right choices in this repair and yes... done with the plow stuff.
Wes, 55yrs as a mechanic taught me good work is worth the cost. My ankles, knees, lower back, Rt shoulder and now Left hand are making my fixes real hard but my backup guy got brain cancer & I won't trust the dealer. I'd pay if I could find competent help. A business has to make money. If you weren't clear over past Chicago I'd be there. You must charge what you need. Let the customers decide if they want the repair. GOOD WORK IS WORTH IT!
I totally agree, it is hard to be a one man, small town business, you get to know all these folks and it is hard to say no. I do enjoy watching you work!
Quit beating yourself up! The vehicle came in with no power steering nor brakes and left with both working? Seems like a win for you and your customer sir. Keep up the great videos, truly enjoy each and everyone of them. Thank you
Can't blame you for turning work away if it doesn't pay. The problem is you never know which one is going to be the problem until you get into it. Good luck, and keep up the good work.
Oof! How do you recover from that? I've had to cut holes in them to get the bolts out before. I just send them back and let the rebuilder figure it out.
@@WatchWesWork IIRC, I used a huge puller from around the shop hooked on the the outside of the pulley. After I got what looked like Granny's sun hat off, I just headed for the junkyard.
No, Wes, you are entirely correct to turn away jobs like this. I have had to do it as well, and anybody who truly understands what it takes to do the work well will also understand. You made the best of it by taking us all along and teaching us, and for that I am grateful, Thank You!
Had a truck come in...was it to rotate 4 tires? Change out one of the tires for some other horrible tire. Some late mid 90s dodge dakota. Thing was ROTTEN, barely ran enough to drive in. Sketchy to put even 3 feet up on the lift. Just rotate, ok sure. customer was in the shop (not fond, against policy), uh whats that dripping? I go and look...a brake line was rotten off... and this was dripping that was leaking, a whole trail of leaks. I got all the tires off, then they just said fk it, put the tires back on...me already having 4 off. Slammed it back together and he went on his merry way, lives...very close. Basically told, its not worth anything, it won't be.
As you go along doing good work there gets to be fewer lean times and they are not as lean as before. Those odd days where there is no deadline hanging over you become refreshing.
Wes, you are nearing the point I reached. I started turning away the crap that should be scrapped. I look at the jobs and if it looks like a nightmare with me inventing new words I just say no.
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. Without question the quintessential CSN composition. The one and only acoustic guitar a capella vocals band. They broke the mold. RIP David Crosby. You had a full life to say the least.
Spring is coming and with that we go for another lap around the sun. You're still a young man Wes. That saying that time flies is so true. Cherish every day Wes...even the bad ones because before you know you'll be an old man. I really enjoy your videos and the laid back style you have. Chin up.....Carry on.
Wooden Ships is my nominee. Especially because Paul Kantner shared writing with Stills and Crosby. Lovely transitions by Stills are always the backbone.
Thank you Wes for applying your skills & talents in such a good way. To be so small of a word, "NO" is really hard to say, especially when it involves friends & good customers. But that is the crux of the whole matter, living in and working within the means & limitations we all have. God bless you with even more wisdom & patience. You are a winner!!
Sometimes Wes, one must say "no". I hear that! Thanks for the songs; they do bring back "childhood" memories being born in the late 50's. You have a good soul! May God Bless you for it.
Wes keep doing what you do best I always give you a thumbs up 👍🏼 even before I watch your videos because I know you give it 110% all the time…and making these videos takes more time and effort so I will still watch your channel even if you don’t work on anymore rusty ole plow trucks lol. Keep up the good work man
Wes you need to stop putting yourself down! My husband works for a new car dealership where mechanics can barely service new vehicles that are all the same make. Here you are servicing everything under the sun and doing a great job of it! You are a special kind of mechanic that this world needs more of! Keep up the GREAT work.
West just charge them eveything you need to do on a truck or car parts and labor if they dont like it they just won't return and they will return 🙄
Dealers charge a heck of a lot more..
Self-deprecation keeps you humble. The world needs more humble people because we're seriously overstocked on people that for no actual reason believe they're God's gift to the world.
@@dominickmilano9972 seriously! these are old trucks and customers need to understand what that implies. And they need to get backnto work too.
I heard one tech. he had a ''used'' aka like 1 2 year old vehicle and was complaining about one of the caliper slide pins being seized...like. That's nearly every other brake job. That, a seized piston, leaky piston, chewed out everything. Nothing is as it seems. Can't just quote rotors and pads and call it done. Same with most repairs.
I detest plow trucks, but they are still better than a garbage truck! 😄
That is true!
I refuse to believe anything can break the mighty Wes.
Wait until it costs you money to fix a worthless pile of junk that belongs to someone else who you’ve set high standards for.
@@robertappleyard7053 what does that even mean?)
I agree 👍💯
@@sawarebel It means that by not knowing what it means, you've outed yourself as never having run a business before.
@@robertappleyard7053 I have one customer right now which want’s me to completely re-do the wiring on the equipment trailer that is rotten to unbelief. And I don’t want to do it, and he insists, and I can’t say no because he gives me a lot of work. 😳🤨
Wait, I thought "end of truck life = beginning of plow life"--that all plow trucks were scrapyard rescues 🙂
Every mechanic has had jobs that make us rethink our life choices. But few of us take others along for the ride. Thank you for that Wes.
My sentiments exactly
We feel his pain
As plenty of other people have said, the folks in your area are lucky to have such a competent and diligent mechanic. As far as jobs like that go, I think there are two options: time and materials or refusal, you're right to say you can't keep losing money on work like that. Keep your chin up, you're a great guy.
100% agree you don't have to refuse the work, and you don't have to loose money on it either.
@@marcelw223 As I said earlier, Wes could say look I might have to charge you the hours it takes rather than the book hrs otherwise I can't afford to do it. I think most could or would understand?
Fantastic job Wes, don’t know how you managed to stick with it, not to mention the freezing!
Credit to you.
All the best, Dave Uk.
You can't charge book on vehicles like this.
Wes as a small business owner in the same boat only difference between us is I run a service truck too. I can understand where you’re coming from with jobs like that. I consider them necessary evils. Only advice I can give you is when I get trucks in like that I always tell the customer it’s time and materials. I.E whatever it takes to fix it (usually everything) and how much time I punch on it. Keep up the good work.
That is exactly right. Tell them what is most likely wrong and that everything around it will crumble once touched and need replacing too.
This. Anything that’s been modded/ altered goes right to T&M. And I’ll bet they’ll pay it. You’re not a charity.
Stick some buffalo hair in the grill, and tell insurance you hit a sasquatch as it rolls down a 3000 ft cliff!
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@@dondalrymple5794 As someone with an old crusty truck I'll take the hit on the bill to simply find someone who will fix it right. I can do a lot but I can't do everything and without a shop I'm very limited in the winter.
Tip for dealing with jobs like that - only sell them as an hourly job! ?
If its a repeat customer, they probably trust you, and being a plow truck it may worth alot more to get it running than you would think.
They may be happy pay to get it fixed right :)
Don't get discouraged Wes! If you would've sat on the couch that day, then you wouldn't have made this awesome video. Some people like watching the struggle! I love your positive attitude even when the day goes sideways.
This will (correctly) date me as a child of the 1970s, but watching that picture of Orange Tang being poured into the radiator really brought back some memories. It's what the astronauts drank!
Don't worry so much about "Book Time", the truck didn't come factory with the "Hydraulic Pump & Snow Plow" that had to be removed......."It Is What, It Is!"
Plow trucks are time and materials. No up front quotes and no guarantees. Just make sure they are aware it is possible this $500 repair turns into a $5000 repair. If they are good with that then you can't loose and you likely will stay busy. 🙂
Same deal with shovelhead Harleys back in the day. ☺
Agreed. I’ve had a few jobs take the same route. I now have a firm policy for such occasions.
Sounds real good!
Yep, and no limits on materials for these jobs. If I put a hole in the radiator changing the PS pump, customer pays. Broken windscreen while I change the rear brakes -- customer pays.
Plow trucks are rough to work on! I feel your pain!
Wes, you are hands down the best youtube channel out there. Everything you do is so relatable. Some channels sugar coat procedures, but your emotions tell the story. Most things you do are unique as well without many repeat videos which makes great content. I eagerly look forward to your next video. Thanks for all you do.
💯 percent agree. Your content is unique and one of the only chanel's on youtube I look forward to. You Never disguise the truth about the struggle and damn can you drive it. Gives me inspiration when my struggle bus comes around, I really think about how you never quit, but mine is self inflicted as I only work ony stuff. Please don't do
50 vids of brake jobs just for content.
your wife adds good comedy when you need her help. love the dog in mouser mode . Hang in Wes.
He's damn good, but I enjoy South Main Auto too.
@@silent1967 SMA is great. Also Mustie1. I just like watching Wes more.
Agreed!
@@slagdemon I don't know, Mrs. O is a good cook looks like to me.
*3 Weeks from now*
"So today we are working on a 3v Triton f-150 plow truck, all 8 spark plugs are broken off, and it hasn't been washed since 2008."
FWIW, the plow truck videos are my favorite. I guess it's because I learn the most seeing how someone who knows what he's doing handles a series of worst case scenarios and everything going wrong - and you always do such a great job with it. I'm also a small business owner in another industry so I certainly understand the reasoning to turn future jobs down. Hopefully the UA-cam revenue eventually makes up for the loss.
Oh the yt revenue is flowing for Wes, why do you think we only get one video every other week or so, it's not lack of customers, it's lack of want. But I could be wrong, who knows.
I'd have to agree. I hate to reap the benefits on Wes's behalf so to speak but I am with you.
@@Fiden6666 he explained why in his live feed
But for free is NOT acceptable..
It wasn't broken till I touched it. That sounds like the story of my life.
Not only is it extremely entertaining to watch Wes put up with ridiculous engeneering on vehicles without cussing up a storm like a drunken sailor.
It's awesome a Millinial like Wes loves CSNY songs recorded most likely before Wes's father was even born.
I bought that album when it came out, yes, I'm that old.
RIP, music icon David Crosby.
Thanks Wes, now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head for days :•)
I think Wes may be just before the millennial generation. I think he's in his first half of his 40's, so born in the Gen X, which goes from 1965-1980, yes, that's right, he is likely the same generation as me, born in 1965. We both like many songs from CSN&Y. Millennial generation is from 1980-1996, with some sources saying as late as early 2000's, but most do say, to 1996. Given that context, his parents may have known about the Kent State debacle in 1970, if not were teens, early 20's then.
As a context, my parents are of a generation born in the late 20's to mid 30's, married in 1954, had their first child, my oldest sister in 1956, had 2 more by 1959, and me in 1965. Dad served for about a while in Vietnam in 1968, retiring in 1970-71 and died in 1998 at 70. Being the youngest, I'm 58, just turned 58 last month. The 2 remaining sisters are in their mid 60's, one died of brain cancer 2 years ago at 62.
I have nieces and a nephew that all are in their late 20's to early 30's at their youngest and the oldest ones 40-45 years old now.
@@johnhpalmer6098 you're stii a youngster!😉
@Freiherr Dinkelacker That and Wooden Ships. Both from the CS&N album, made before they (somewhat reluctantly I hear) let Young in.
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The term millinial wiuld desigate someone born before the millinium and after within a range of 8 to 10 years.
Generations range from the age the majority of females getting pregnant till the next group kicks in around the same age as the last.
Due to social changes in legalities it's beem streached out since my Mothers generation as it wasn't unusual for females to be married at 16 like my Mom was as a just post war bride.
These days it's frowned on.
I learned that from a college anthropology Professor.
There's about 6 different sources that move it around as they please.
Sailors don’t have to drink to cuss
That dog has the best pissed off look lol 😁😁👍👍
Wes, I’m a self employed carpenter and I’ve been following since this was a machinist channel :) I recently had to make a very similar decision and I TOTALLY feel the same way. It’s the hardest thing to do but you gotta do it. Best wishes.
Im in the same boat,I will no longer get within 5 miles of a pocket door that I didn't install the frame of.
"The Power Steering Pump is Down Yonder" Thanks for the nod to southern folk.
I was a shop owner and I made it perfectly clear when a rust bucket came in that I would not be responsible for rusted part removal that needed to be taken out to do repairs, Just like You I had a ton of Crap break and I would eat the cost, But that changed real fast because I started to factor in the unknown and if I did get it done without parts breaking they didn't get charged for it! Protect Your Self Wes and take care Bud!
Wes take this man's advice. Along with the rust comes other work.
Like too...test OK problem reported by problem corrected...hand writtened ...keep me out of bullshit...they sign...
In Australia we have compulsory yearly safety inspections for cars, I sometimes curse them when our cars are due, but the other edge of that sword is that the cars driving around on our roads are all safe and sturdy, there are no really terrible rust-buckets. The exceptions are the farm and big property vehicles of course, but as most of rural Australia is hot and dry and we never put salt on the roads ever those vehicles are mostly fine as well. In fact it's well known that if you're after an older vehicle still in good condition the best place to find them is in the country because they won't have any rust ( no salted roads and hundreds of miles from the coast).
When I see some of the vehicles Wes works on over there in America I nearly fall off my chair at how rusty and dodgy they are. Those vehicles would NEVER pass inspection in Australia, they'd be sent straight to the scrapyard. It's unbelievable to me the road authorities in the US allow those deathtraps on the roads.
The other advantage of keeping vehicles safety inspected and roadworthy is that they are generally easier to work on because there's no really rusted on junk, most of the cars are at least in passable condition. There is still a little bit of dodgy stuff of course, and a few questionable mechanics, but generally it's nowhere near as bad.
@@woopimagpie in the northeast US, most states do require annual safety inspections. We also have to look towards warmer drier areas of the country where salt hasn't destroyed everything over 8 years old if we want an older vehicle that isn't rotted out or well on its way to being rotted out.
@@woopimagpie Annual safety inspections are only required in NSW and under some circumstances in the ACT.
Wes, your sighs of exasperation are truly epic. Thank you for the great content.
The old rockers keep dying off but Keith Richards is probably immortal.
I could just hear myself talking to the parts(as I often do)while watching the video, “oh, you’re coming out of there all right, one way or another!!!”😅
Also, don’t turn away your good customer’s plow trucks, just tell them it’s by the hour, no more hard quoting, and let them be the one to decide.
Don't forget to tell them upfront: plow trucks cost double your normal rate (whatever that is).
Anyone with old trucks that expect book time rates are fooling themselves.I get some really abused equipment come through and we go strictly by actual time and parts,and most of the people completely understand.Tell them upfront and if they don't like it they can go elsewhere.
Wes, I aspire to one day be as knowledgeable, as patient, and as kind as you are. It may seem tough at times, but the reality is what you're doing every day is a dream of mine. You've taught me so much, I guess a lot of that comes from the way you go about showing things. I appreciate you Wes.
This is why I'm a carpenter!!! LOL I spent my early years helping my Dad and uncles fixing vehicles.
Thanks for another excellent video. I empathise with your dilemma. Took me years to realise that being a doormat for all and sundry was not good in business of any walk of life. People do not respect you for tackling jobs that are stupid in your professional mind. All too often they just think you are a sucker. I learned only to do such work for real friends; the rest paid up or were told no. Retired now and looking back, saying no was the best decision ever, even in cash strapped times. Cannot get my head around the rusty junk that limps into your shop. Still USA is different to UK where such vehicles would be long crushed. Best wishes from UK.
you'll probably never see this Wes, but if you do, you gotta bill out your hours. don't eat them on your customers behalf. when a rusty shitbox comes in, you immediately add 50% to your hourly rate and tell them straight up that an estimate is just that, an estimate only. rusty stuff turns to shit and you (the customer) has to pay for it. plow truck owners especially should understand.,
if they don't want to pay, fine. if they do, because they recognize your great work, all the better, be confident in telling customers you will not eat the cost if it turns to shit.
they will either take it or leave it.
Nice tribute to Dave Crosby, Wes.
Damn fine group in its day.
for a humble man like yourself, take this, we love your effort, commitment, and the fact that you document this stuff. Many thumbs up for you!
Great video, I love how you show the "warts and all" angle of what you do. As a small business owner, I hear you on the difficulty in saying "no" to work, but sounds like you've been doing this long enough to make the best call.
I fully agree with the position of 'Time and Materials' including trips to get parts etc. You are NOT a charity. Keep up the Great Work - I know I couldn't or wouldn't do it myself.
Hey Wes..I'm not a mechanic, not even an armchair mechanic. I just really enjoy watching your videos. You have helped my plight in one way however. I also live in the country, and have, like you, many cheese eating friends. They had decided the leads to the coils in my car were quite tasty and ate through them. After seeing all your videos on problem solving, wiring in particular, I felt comfortable enough to take on the task of repairing the leads. All is good under the hood now! Thanks for helping out!
Get yourself a pet python - your cheese eating friends will soon be lunch and your wiring will thank you. 🙂
I'm in Australia, we used to have a bit of a mouse problem but I joined the local WIRES branch (Wildlife Information & Rescue Service) and released a couple of native pythons into the rainforest at the back of our property and hey presto! No more mice. Funny thing is, we almost never see the pythons - maybe once a year we might see one sunning itself out the back but its rare, but we've had no mice for over a decade now.
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Great suggestion! Over here on the west coast of Canada, pythons aren't as abundant as down under. I do have a pretty darn good mouser cat though! She is on point!
@@fluidgroover polecats, martens,stoats and weasels like the taste of rats, mice and squirrels, if you can keep them around, I’d try keeping a couple of pet ferrets in cages in the garage, most rodents give them a very wide berth.
@@fluidgroover A little cat did it for mice in my cabin. I'd a "squeek!" then a "crunch!" in a couple days, no more mouse droppings or chewed clothes.
I’ll miss watching the plow truck videos 😢
Wes, you are hands down one of the best mechanics i have ever seen. You do what you have to to keep your sanity!
My Father always told me "if you ain't making mistakes you ain't trying hard enough...just don't make to many"...
Your content rocks!!!!
You are right, not only about a business losing money, it's hard to see something you can fix but to know the time and money invested is not worth it...
We're here with you in this, loving every minute of your video.
Thanks!
Wes Teach your children is the best! Southern cross second.
Rusty and Farming are definitely the hardest 😫 😩.
Appreciate your pain Wes, lighting and heating a shop isn't cheap.
Great job and tribute 👏.
Thanks for sharing.
Don’t say no to business. Ask them is it worth your hourly rate no matter what you find?
Maybe they say no instead. But they need to take on some of the risk if they say yes.
I also assume they plough with it as a business?
Tell them there is a bloke in Australia that does them but he’s not very good 🤠
Great video anyway!
Bless your heart Wes. There's not a channel out there more enjoyable to watch while actually learning something. I'm sure you know that your talents are appreciated, but regardless of outcomes, they are. Very best to you and your family.
do what most big shops do and charge the customer for everything. You had to do it to get it fixed.
I had my own business, the hardest thing to say was NO, took me years to be able to say that. But I learned that there were times that you need to say no.
You do an excellent job of troubleshooting and repairing these electronically managed and moronically designed vehicles. I am old and these new vehicles
definitely not my cup of tea. Keep up the good work.
Wes you’re one rare mechanic that will fix anything and be honest but that doesn’t pay bills as always you and your families be safe 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I grew up in the late 60s and early 70s when CSNY were in their prime. Wes, It’s nice to see that your generation still appreciate great music. Love your channel.
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I've never seen a dog that's so calm . Never runs around jumping or barking. Like whatever
That outro was particularly apt and heartfelt...I appreciated it. Hard to believe this, but now that I know your musical taste I like the channel even more. RIP DC.
'Tis life and within the next 10 years a lot of music icons and legends will be leaving us. Best outro ever . . . "Keep your stick on the ice"
Thank you Wes for yet another great episode! You spoke of a great song that you could not share due to copyright infringement. I thought of another song that I cannot share due to copyright infringement, but it has a lot to do with your choice of working on old, rusty, crusty plow trucks. It goes something like "You got to know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run". I know that whatever you choose to do it will be in your best interest for your future.
🔥🔥 🥶 Some day, someone will invent the front of the car that swings out of the way, flips up, drops down…to reveal enough working space. Your hands hurt now? I’m disabled because mine are such a wreck, and I hope you don’t go down that road. Lead to a career change. Best Regards Wes
Crosby Stills and Nash was my first concert-outdoor venue and I was standing with hands on the stage: “Summer Breeze” was my favorite song they played and perhaps this was due to the amazing summer breeze that was about that evening. What a great moment and memory. These old, rusty trucks are a maintenance nightmare and it’s probably time to let a younger, hungrier mechanic take that business-solid reasoning Wes. It looks to me like Max is not a true fan of winter either, but old Phil, whose 40% accurate, says we’re in for six more weeks-bah! ❤️🔧
Great video Wes, I was a mechanic over 35 years, and Wes you will always get some jobs to bite you in the rear, hang in there young man, thank you from New York city
Well Wes... except for a few turns of fate you could have easily been an Engineer designing electro-mechanical do dads. Sitting in a warm office, and not covered in grease and bruises. And probably making twice as much. But then you wouldn't have had us for an audience! 😁 Thanks for the videos! 👍👍
I was...
@@WatchWesWork I wondered about that... Your understanding and electronic troubleshooting skills seem way beyond the average mechanic (Electrical Engineer myself) But still, we are glad you are You Tubing with us! 😎😎
@@WatchWesWork I've found in my limited time, that working in an environment you can have fun in and enjoy is better than getting paid twice as much. I have gotten lucky where I work now, EE/CE major and I get to work on dirty Diesel engines setting up test equipment 😁
@@WatchWesWork Well now that you have said that, it all makes sense. I was amazed at your electrical proficiency (i.e., welder repairs) and thought to myself, Wes must have had some really awesome technical training instructors for him to be so proficient in electrical circuit and component theory and operation. I thought that knowledge level to be extraordinary for most in the automotive technical fields (and others). I too am an EE who enjoys working on mechanical assemblies (my own, not for a living) and why I like watching you turn wrenches. It is funny that you often remark how the electrical problems you encounter, especially when following others who really butchered, are the worst. I too hate working on the electrical issues. I know I have heard the click of torque wrenches more than most MEs I work with. Like I said, it all makes sense now.
@@WatchWesWork I love it when Wes says, "Time to pull out the oscilloscope!" Those are always the best content! Keep on being you, Wes!
Had a 95 e350 work van and the water pump went . Broke a whole bunch of bolts trying to get them out . After I got it fixed I got rid of that thing . Rusted old junk sucks working on . I remember standing in the engine bay, obviously with the radiator and fan and shroud out busting up my knuckles . Your videos give the little guy hope in life . Thank you
yeah Sunday morning Wes. Wes I really look forward to your videos. thanks
I was a MC mech for 35 years with my own shop for most of it and one thing I got used to was that a smooth trouble free job was a bonus not a standard. Once I even had a crankcase combustion on a 4cyl bike engine; oil all over me, the whole shop and hours of wasted time and new oil. It was a bonus nay a miracle that the crankcase did NOT break (the oil filter lid blew off like a hand grenade) and the customer (who was present) did not kill me or die of a heart attack. I quickly adopted a saying that kept me surprisingly sane "Nothing is ever so bad that it cant get worse" I am now really enjoying retirement and never showering in warm motor oil ever again.
Wes you are a mechanical hero. Thanks for keeping this crazy variety of machinery running, the snow off the roads and those of us who can't hold a candle to you skills thoroughly fascinated and entertained.
That is the second time in my whole life that I have seen a crows foot wrench ever work. Thanks! Oh and I am 65 yo
Love your crusty plow truck adventures. :)
"Judy Blue Eyes"....my favorite.
Nature of the business.....there are repairs that are just major headaches. And it's your prerogative to accept or decline.
I do enjoy all those long, heavy "sighs"..... they just crack me up! 'Cause you know it's not going well.😂😂
Wes just remember “ experience is what you get when you thought you were getting something else! “ I’ve said it for years. You do good work!
this is why some shops don't work on older stuff. I find my clients with 80's-90's vehicles are just happy to find someone to fix them.
I must say I really admire your honesty in admitting you broke something and making it right, I know it's frustrating but you're a good guy and your payout will come eventually.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep doing plow trucks!!! They are the best. I mean for us in the non road salt areas it is amazing to see what salt can do!
Max looks like he needs a friend
Honesty always pays off in the end and is a good code to live by. I wish we had more like you. Teach your children well.
Despite it being one of those days you still brought us a great video. Keep up the good work Wes.
"Just A Song Before I Go" is one of my fav CSN songs.
I appreciate the video, Wes. I don’t like that the job lost and was a pain. We have crusty old plow trucks in Michigan too, no fun. I’m glad I’m not the only one that calls himself names when he forgets something. Thanks a Bunch. RIP David Crosby.
I call myself ass hole, not dingbat
Folks are lucky to have someone like you to tackle those wrecks. Around here after about 20 years a garage won't tackle them. Smart decision to pick your battles. People will let you lose money on work all day long.
I'm just like you, certain jobs you shout every cuss word in the book at it, you swear you will never do another one. Then the next one shows up and the customer talks you into fixing it just because you can't say no.
You do awesome work Wes.
Thank you for the great videos.
Wes… what a hero… been self employed for a couple of years and am learning how to cope with the (inevitable) downs that go with the job from the best
Just gotta say Wes, you're part of a dying breed. I've worked in the industry for nearly 20 years and seen it first hand how things have changed with serviceability and the skill level of dealer level technicians. You actually know how to fix stuff, and if you don't you can figure it out. A lot of technicians these days don't have the common sense to be able to figure it out. My favourite CSN song is "Helplessly Hoping".
It's tough having ethics when working on projects like this one. You genuinely want to do the job right, and you always do. They say the road to hell is paved with good intentions, i think the road to burn out is too.
Long Time Gone: Crosby, Stills and Nash is probably my favorite song.. RIP David Crosby
Its the brutal honesty that i subscribed for. It always pays off in the end. Thanks for staying off the couch and showing the painful reality of your business.
Don't feel bad about turning people away. I got into fixing cars in 1987 because none of the service stations would work on my first one, an inherited 77 VW Rabbit. It's been a great hobby, it taught me a lot of patience and it saves me money. I'm thankful 🙏
Wes, when I worked outside in the weather I used to wear a neck gaiter. It really helped me to stay warm. They are only $12 to $14.
"Got in a fight with a bald eagle". 🤣That was a spit your coffee out moment.
I love how you transmit your frustrations yet still tackle the job. Your made all the right choices in this repair and yes... done with the plow stuff.
Wes, 55yrs as a mechanic taught me good work is worth the cost. My ankles, knees, lower back, Rt shoulder and now Left hand are making my fixes real hard but my backup guy got brain cancer & I won't trust the dealer. I'd pay if I could find competent help. A business has to make money. If you weren't clear over past Chicago I'd be there. You must charge what you need. Let the customers decide if they want the repair. GOOD WORK IS WORTH IT!
I totally agree, it is hard to be a one man, small town business, you get to know all these folks and it is hard to say no. I do enjoy watching you work!
Quit beating yourself up! The vehicle came in with no power steering nor brakes and left with both working? Seems like a win for you and your customer sir. Keep up the great videos, truly enjoy each and everyone of them. Thank you
Can't blame you for turning work away if it doesn't pay. The problem is you never know which one is going to be the problem until you get into it. Good luck, and keep up the good work.
It could of been worse. You could have pressed to new pulley on Backwards. ASK ME HOW I KNOW..
Oof! How do you recover from that? I've had to cut holes in them to get the bolts out before. I just send them back and let the rebuilder figure it out.
@@WatchWesWork IIRC, I used a huge puller from around the shop hooked on the the outside of the pulley. After I got what looked like Granny's sun hat off, I just headed for the junkyard.
Oh, the horror! (Think Apocalypse Now)
Yes! Sad to say goodbye to our musical icons. My man was a bandmate of his! At least we have the benefit of their musical legacy to enjoy.
No, Wes, you are entirely correct to turn away jobs like this. I have had to do it as well, and anybody who truly understands what it takes to do the work well will also understand. You made the best of it by taking us all along and teaching us, and for that I am grateful, Thank You!
Had a truck come in...was it to rotate 4 tires? Change out one of the tires for some other horrible tire. Some late mid 90s dodge dakota. Thing was ROTTEN, barely ran enough to drive in. Sketchy to put even 3 feet up on the lift. Just rotate, ok sure. customer was in the shop (not fond, against policy), uh whats that dripping? I go and look...a brake line was rotten off... and this was dripping that was leaking, a whole trail of leaks. I got all the tires off, then they just said fk it, put the tires back on...me already having 4 off. Slammed it back together and he went on his merry way, lives...very close. Basically told, its not worth anything, it won't be.
As you go along doing good work there gets to be fewer lean times and they are not as lean as before. Those odd days where there is no deadline hanging over you become refreshing.
Wes, you are nearing the point I reached. I started turning away the crap that should be scrapped. I look at the jobs and if it looks like a nightmare with me inventing new words I just say no.
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes. Without question the quintessential CSN composition. The one and only acoustic guitar a capella vocals band. They broke the mold. RIP David Crosby. You had a full life to say the least.
Love your channel because it is real. I have worked on plow trucks for 25 years and it is amazing what new wiring problems happen every snow storm.
retired long-hauler here-I thot calcium cl & salt were hard on wiring until they started pre-treating with liquid magnesium cl here in Maine!!
Wind on the Water is one of my very favorite songs from Crosby.
Spring is coming and with that we go for another lap around the sun. You're still a young man Wes. That saying that time flies is so true. Cherish every day Wes...even the bad ones because before you know you'll be an old man. I really enjoy your videos and the laid back style you have. Chin up.....Carry on.
yes, time flies like the wind, but fruit flies like bananas!
@@munroboice1542 Gooder
Wooden Ships is my nominee. Especially because Paul Kantner shared writing with Stills and Crosby.
Lovely transitions by Stills are always the backbone.
Thank you Wes for applying your skills & talents in such a good way. To be so small of a word, "NO" is really hard to say, especially when it involves friends & good customers. But that is the crux of the whole matter, living in and working within the means & limitations we all have. God bless you with even more wisdom & patience. You are a winner!!
Sometimes Wes, one must say "no". I hear that! Thanks for the songs; they do bring back "childhood" memories being born in the late 50's. You have a good soul! May God Bless you for it.
Wes keep doing what you do best I always give you a thumbs up 👍🏼 even before I watch your videos because I know you give it 110% all the time…and making these videos takes more time and effort so I will still watch your channel even if you don’t work on anymore rusty ole plow trucks lol. Keep up the good work man
Wes, Mr Tamboine man was slightly my favorite. ALL of His stuff was spectacular back in my day (I’m 72).