DIY BMW E65 E66 How To Replace Your Guibo Joint
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I show you how to replace your Guibo Joint on your 2002-2008 BMW E65 E66 745i 745li, 750i, 750li. The process will be similar if not the same on other BMW models, but this was done on a 2006 BMW E65. The Guibo is known to go faulty on the BMW cars and people think it's a bad transmission so if your not carefully a shop could charge you for a transmission instead of 100-130 dollars for this simple part. The Guibo Joint is also called the Flex Disc or U-Joint or the Universal Joint, others call it the Propeller Joint or Disc, it's the same thing. I know this video is a long one, but I'm here to save you guys money and Do It Yourself. Thanks for watching.
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Because of you I just saved myself helllla $$$$$. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to make all of these videos, I know how time consuming it can be when making videos/editing. Long story short, I bought my car from this mechanic guy I know for awhile. 2003 BMW 745i, with 92XXXX miles, got it for a good price too. He told the system update might fix it, but it didn't. I don't think he knew what the problem was, cause he was trying to send me to a transmission shop. I tried selling the car for the same price I bought it for but no luck. After watching your video I was 100% sure it was the Guibo and not the transmission. With the help of my friend that knows a little bit more than me about going under the car, we managed to changed the Guibo in one day. Now my car runs really smooth like "Butter" :). Thumbs up man I love your videos.
What were the symptoms before.?
Hello mate, you deserve an Oscar for this video. It is very much appreciated.
You have also demonstrated the attention to detail that has gone into the design of this BMW.
Thank again.
Thank you for the kind words:) glad the video could help:)
This repair helped me to resolve some issues I had with a 2006 e66 750Li. Issues were when putting in reverse you would hear a slamming noise. Also while driving on the highway, when letting off the gas and then hitting the gas, you would feel a bump. Also when the car would come to a stop, the vehicle would make a jumping slam feeling from gears 3, 2, 1 or starting car and going from gears 1, 2 and 3. After replacing this, the transmission runs smooth.
Just to add. Remove the giubo bolts before you disconnect the driveshaft because with the driveshaft in place you can put the car into neutral and turn the driveshaft to make the bolts easier to access. With the car up on jack stands, use your key to unlock the neutral lever next to and above the hood release and facing down to the floor. There is a red lanyard that you pull and that releases the driveshaft. Now you can easily take of the giubo bolts that are torqued to 76.6lbs.
Thanks so much for the great videos!I just replaced my Guibo/Flex Disc this last weekend. I also replaced the driveshaft center support bearing, transmission mounts, and then did the transmission pan/filter and fuel filter since I was under the car with all the panels pulled down.While removing the transmission support is not necessary it made this job a bit simpler and I opted to spend 5 more minutes and $20-30 to replace the transmission mounts since there were right there staring at me.The rear end of the driveshaft was a bit stubborn but I was able to break the inverted Torq bolts loose with an impact gun and an air chisel with a broad flat bit to knock it loose from the rear end. It has been on that car since 2004 and had 205,000 miles so things took a little force to break things loose. Once the drive shaft was out, it took a large pipe wrench to hold the drive shaft and a metric wrench to turn the bolt inside the u-joint...then she came right apart.A couple of thumps from that air chisel again on the center support bearing and she finally let go of the drive shaft. It all went back together easily enough and it made a huge difference in the smoothness of my shifting both up and down.The whole job took about 3.5 hours using my buddy's vehicle lift. I'd add about 1 hours to the job if you are planning on doing it on jack stands.Thanks for the great video!
wooohoo! Just finished this project with the help of 2 friends yesterday, what a difference. I have an 06 750LI and my clunks would be at random times...like 2nd to 3rd when cruising at 45? and it decideds to bring it up a gear. other times were when slowing down, feeling like getting hit from behind. I did a transmission flush just before this with Royal purple and everything is just smooth as silk. acceleration is very tight now, no more semi wobble or feeling of something loose. its best to have 2 or 3 people to be honest. and I did not detach the drive shaft from the differential, just be gentle and supportive when you bend it. having the back wheels off the ground is a must because I would turn it on, shift into neutral and take my foot off the brake while my buddies were under the car ready to turn the drive shaft to get the top bolts to change position, THAT made life so much easier! it only required the car to run for about 5 seconds. just dont throw it in drive or reverse and let off the brake. oh and with royal purple in the tranny and RP HPS in the engine i get about 28 highway doing 70
Thanks a ton for the vid, took me about 5 hours and now the car is perfect, can't believe how big a difference it made! Shifts and stops smooth as silk! One tip I will add, I bent a 19 mm wrench at a 45 degree angle to help with the nuts, made it much easier. Appreciate all the camera work, saved me a ton of loot!
I'm doing this right now for my 2003 E66 745. thanks for this helpful video, one thing I want to say, when I'm releasing the bolts from the flex disk I pulled the emergency release to but the transmission in neutral then I can rotate the shaft for easy access.
AWESOME VIDEO. I improvised a bit more with the transmission brace by removing it to gain better access to the Guibo but great video quality, step-by-step, and saved me a ton of cash!
If you have the transmission in neutral, you can rotate the Guibo and it will be easier to get the bolts out.
+Enrique Montes Awesome thank you for the tip, if I keep my car long enough I'll have to replace it again.
+DIYsavecash i have a 2006 750li and having similar problems car jerks when i stop and sometimes when i do a roll stop.i ask a mechanic could it be the guibo(flex disk) he said it should be making a noise if its that which it doest make a noise just a thump when it jerks did your car make a noise when stopping..and changing the guibo did that fix your problem
I am 100% ready to tackle this job after watching your video! Thanks sir!
Appreciate all your efforts on helping us.
Great educational video showing each step. Guibo is pronounced "joo-boh". The hard 2-1 downshift 90% of the time is caused by cracked bridge adapter seal in the transmission. And if you go that far you might as well do the sleeve seals and solenoids also.
Thank you for your video...I was able to do it myself in about 4hours...one thing that I would add is there is a bolt inside the universal joint that I took out very easy that allowed me to take the front shaft out and work on getting the three bolts that I left attached to the shaft and it also allowed me to put a new bearing on too while I had the car all apart...thank you very much for your help
+Timothy Hoch Awesome Timothy great job 4 hours that's a record:) took me about 8-10 with filming:)
I did not do a BMW but your video helped me find my problem on a Dodge Charger. Thank You for this video.
Thank you so much for taking the time to post these videos! It is very kind of you! Keep posting more of these, please! Thanks!
Carl Youssef Hello, excellent thank you for watching the videos, more great videos on the way:)
Hi and Thank You very much for all your videos which are really awesome and detailed!!! Please keep the shooting! they are of a great help for all BMW 7s owners, especially here, in Georgia)) as none of the technicians could diagnose this problem as u did))) Thank you!!!
great videos your video about the guido joint help a lot had that problem with the down shifting like someone hit me in the back and when shifting from second to third gear and the clicking sound when I shift now I figured the issue
Awesome glad the video could help.
Excellent video!! Thanks so much for the information.
Great Tip Matt, thank you
Excellent Video, one of the best I have seen in You Tube. Congratulations. The time to show details is remarkable.I have to do this on a BMW Z4 year 2004, hope is similar.
I have a '04 E60 with a rough shift into first, along with a slight clicky noise. replaced the joint...Gone! Thanks Friend!
+climbn110 awesome congrats, good fix and thank you for watching:)
Congratulations! ! Very useful video!
Thanks for watching the video, I'm glad that you were able to save a lot of money, enjoy the smoothness.
Just did mine from this video...... Love it
I took my car to a transmission shop,the symptoms I was having was similar to yours but the torque converter and valve body is done. So I think I should be getting a different transmission this week. So my universal joint would have been covered and I must say my warranty covers alot under the powertrain. Thanks for your videos they really helped me several times so far
Ronald Canaday wow, great warranty, glad their taking good care of you:)
Don't you have to pre load the driveshaft forward before tightening the center support??
Yes I have that same symptom of the clunk and feeling like a tire is sliding in my truck or someone pushing me every time I come to a stop. I thought I was crazy. 😂😂Thanks bro.
Thanks did mine today drives like a charm. I made a mistake and put back the exhaust without the heat shield then had to take it down again. But shifts smooth again. Thanks again good post. 2004 745li.
Awesome so glad to hear:) Great job
How has your car been ever since you replaced your guibo/u-joint? Is it smoother at all? I need to replace mine ASAP!
Super!!! Well Done. Thank you...
Yes sometimes but you would feel more of a clunk then a slip but others report different issues, normally it's from Park to Reverse then Clunk, sometimes for me park to drive, but always was from 1st gear to 2nd then I would slow down for a stop sign and clunk very embarrassing it sounds like your transmission is going (that's what others think). The worst sound was again Park to Drive and Park To Reverse Clunk. Sounded like my transmission fell off. Thanks for watching the videos.
Unfortunately I had mine changed at a local shop but the issue didn’t go away. It’s exactly as how u described it, just before the car comes to a full stop (around 15 mph) the car shakes/clunks, as if someone hit it from behind. It’s so annoying driving local and stopping at stop signs...any suggestions as to what else it can possibly be? I’ve already replaced the transmission fluid and filter, and pan...
when can we say the transmission is bad? and not parts around it? I have a 2006 750li, change and replace pan and the tran fluid recently, the old one was dark. It work great for one day, after that the sound of the motor change to a more high pitch sound and when I try to use D in goes to P. any thoughts?
Hi, have quick question: Can bad Guilbo joint be responsible for Transmission overheating ? I have 02 745. When i move from Park to Reverse or back, sometimes there is clunk or knock, but not always. And the overheating is only when outside temperature is high and i am driving in countryside - up and down in mountains ( ~20 minutes ) or staying in traffic jam for some 20 minutes. Thanks for Your time to respond !
Would it feel like the transmission is slipping also? Please let me know
Great video. Just a comment. The drive moderately and what I'm guessing was probably a "parking brake fault" error are most likely due to low voltage probably from the battery running down a bit from leaving the doors open, etc. or key on engine off while doing the work. Sadly this seems to be the way the car behaves when a low voltage condition appears as the individual control modules will report low voltage in an uncoordinated fashion causing all kinds of fun errors...
Since the driveshaft in e66 is above the exhaust, do i need to install driveshaft safety loops ? Just asking in case of driveshaft breakage?
It is easier to use the emergency transmission release for neutral mode with the car off. This enables easier access to the guibo rear bolts during removal.
Can a bad guibo cause transmission faults? Mine feels like a bad guibo but I get transmission faults and limp mode. My e66 only has 60,000 miles.
Yes the famous Clunk or knock, mine is completely gone now that I replaced it. I'm very happy with the results.
Thanks for watching the videos:)
Thanx for the video!!! jqahir where did you get it done in NYC ???
hi! as i see you have differnt sparepart nombers
old one is an under-restyling part
a new jne is from 750i after restyling.
oficiallially it cant be changed!
does it fitted well? my database shows that a new one 26 11 7 542 238 is thicker about 5mm... really was the difference?????
Thanks a lot for this great video.
Your welcome, thanks for watching the video:)
the most famous symptom for a bad Guibo is a clunk or knock when you put gear on R. after replacing it's gone.
Thanx for the video
thank you a lot ,i wait this for long time.
Awesome I like it and keep going
Hey would this work on a 2004 545i as well?
you are awesome, love the detailed talks and alternative solutions...
Keo Keonorasak thank you glad the videos can help, thank you for watching:)
Keo Keonorasak Detailed but re-installing the center bearing & guibo joint were never shown, anyhow, good effort
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Also, just so everyone knows. The black rubber flex disk is called a "Giubo" (pronounced JOO-bo) and NOT a "Guibo" (GWEE-bo). The name originated from the name of the Italian engineer that designed it, Antonio Boschi. It is a combination of the Italian word for joint, Giunto, and his last name Boschi.
I second that coment...just put the transmission in neutral and you can turn the shaft so the bolts on top will now be confortable to remove
guy's I have mine taken apart and can't find the same guibo for some reason mine de bushings goes inside of drive shaft ears and transmission end gab01-027 guibo comes with
Hello, no I never felt that I lost power, in the video it shows the bad slack on the guibo on my bad one, so once the driveshaft is spinning really fast you won't get the clunks or noises, at least on mine that was the issue. Thanks for watching the videos.
I got mine done for $200 labor in nyc. But it was a big job.
Great, informative video! So it doesn’t perpetuate further, I know it may seem minor but I just want it to be correct, the word is Giubo. From Wikipedia, among others:
A giubo (JOO-boh); etymology: giunto Boschi, "Boschi joint"), also known as a flex disc, and sometimes misspelled as guibo, is a flexible coupling used to transmit rotational torque between the drive shaft and the companion flange on mechanical devices, such as an automobile engine.
Would u loose power also
Parking Brake Malfunction. Typical 7 series issue. I haven't even bothered to fix mine. It's the emergency brake in the trunk between the back of the back seats and the spare tire cover. There are 3 or 4 8mm bolts(?) that release a plastic cover. Inside there is the emergency brake module. They have a repair kit on ebay for it. I don't remember the price.
how much is the labor cost for that type of repair????
@dyisavecash Thanks for all the detail in your video..I'm doing this project next..You are my inspiration! I'll update after I done TTYL
Hello, the results are great no more loud thunk sounds, no more pulling up to stop signs and clunk noises, I'm happy with the results, the design still needs a fix but overall I'm happy, if you own your car for a long time you might have to put another one in 75,000 miles later.
How much money did you save? Also I tried your webpage and didn't work
thanks for the vid man
Dannyd135 your welcome, thanks for watching:)
My mechanic did it, hillside ave in queens
Are there any torque specs that I should have before taking on this job? thanks
I just tighten them down with good strength, but the torque specs should be on a BMW forum or online, I just don't know them off the top of my head, if someone reads this that knows, hopefully they'll let us know.
i wish i can change mine but i think i'm hesitant
I have an 07 750li experiencing this issue. I have a powertrain warranty would this be covered under it.
Ronald Canaday Hello, great question, since I bought my car after it's warranty was up, I'm not 100% sure, but I sure would raise a fuss and see if they will do it, my experiences in life if someone tells you No, call again a different day and ask again.
Did your transmission fault light ever illuminate while experiencing this problem?
Gregory Souther Hello, no it did not.
Hey, I'm doing mine right now as we speak! Did u have ur floor Jack mounted on the gas tank in the back? That's the only place I see in the rear to mount my Jack on mine. I'm doin the flex joint, rear differential and the transmission flush.
+br3wskee awesome, I actually jack it up from the rear differential but I would lay a piece of flat strong wood down on top of the jack head, so as to lay flat under the rear diff for support, it might be a little tricky with doing the rear diff oil, but I think I got to the plug just fine, you might want to watch my video of rear diff oil change. Happy fixing you'll like the results after those fixes.
+DIYsavecash Can I crank the car while the muffler is disconnected? I want to try to put it in Nuetral.
+br3wskee It'll be really loud, but it should be ok. Let me know how it goes:) Also be sure to be in a well ventilated area for fumes.
Man thet was kooooooL.G.tanks.
Thanks for the video. How long did the project take?
+oscar drepaul With filming and running into a few snags, probably 8-10 hours, as seen in the video 1 bolt was driving me crazy. Filming takes along time. Thanks for watching:)
i have a 04 645ci thats giving me the same problem
My F32 has two Giubo's on the drive shaft.
I have BMW 750il E65 with transmission problem gear shift indicator light flash after switched off the hangs in p position no reverse & drive please what can I do
First I would change your Tranny Pan and Fluid.
If it doesn't do anything after that, Then you have a bad Gearbox.
Your welcome, the video took about half a day to upload, enjoy, thanks for watching.
My car smokes in idle, its white smoke more then average what is that?
Nice!
Or external torx
Chris how many miles fo you figure were on your Guibo when you did this? thanks for the thorough video.. you're actually making me more confident to start taking on my '08 750i which comes off of warranty coverage next month lol ;-)
I don't remember the exact amount of miles but I think it was over 100k, but I noticed it right away after purchasing the car with 76k. 2nd Guibo was an OEM, if BMW made a bad guibo I don't want to take that risk again.
+DIYsavecash funny - I forgot I posted a comment on this video. It's been a year and I've got 91K on my 750i now and I'm pretty certain my giubo has failed. going to open it up later today to check.. it started off as a grinding that got worse over the span of a few days and finally as I drove the car home doing 20MPH it sounded like one of my tires had let go and was slapping my undercarriage *and* the whole rear end was shimmying back and forth. I won't know til I check though.
How long can you drive your car with a bad guibo? And what happens if you keep driving your car with bad guibo?
late reply... bad idea to keep driving it.. you can loose the whole DS and or your transmission including your differential
video mark at 20:20.. notice the guibo is placed the wrong way that's why it prematurely wear.... and for watchers be aware of the CSB... make sure to put it the right way on the DS.. if you notice on the CSB a wider part of the center rubber is noticeable... that wider part has to be facing the transmission.. coz u need to "preload" the bearing.. meaning before tightening it which was NOT done on this video could cause u a premature wear on that CSB.. "preload" means that before tightening the two nuts that will hold that CSB u need to PUSH the whole bearing about 5mm towards the transmission this will center the bearing on the middle rubber hence "preload"... hope all DIY here have the whole day and parts readily available before changing things.. and oh yeah make sure your "Guibo" or Flex disc is the right size on your car.... they come in different sizes... if you see a mark on the Guibo with "GAB74"... that's smaller than "GAB80"..... and if you dont have any markings on your busted guibo be sure you buy the right one especially if buying it online. Cheers !... great vid !...
Couple things I'll add from my experience. After you put car on stands, put penetrating oil on the exhaust bolts. Use 75/25 mix trans fluid, high mileage/acetone in an oil can.soak 10 min. No penetrating oil on the market competes with this, none. Make sure you can get these off or the project comes to a complete hault. 2. The 10 mm bolt heads on the plastic covers, tighten them a smidge before you take them off. It takes the tension off. I broke a few before I did this. Some also broke when putting them back so be snug not firm putting them back. 3. Use the strap. 4. Get new flare nuts for exhaust. I used 8x 1.25 mm with some washers, made the nuts 13mm instead of the 12mm I took off. Take your time. I did it in 6 hours
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Is this what makes funny metalic click noise when engaging drive or reverse??
soton000 I believe so, there is play with these, the designer in my opinion did a bad job, I've heard of BMW owners who have their 3rd or 4th one installed, because of this problem. My car is now on 172k I did mine I believe less then 75k ago maybe even 65k I can't remember but I'm getting the click again, not as bad as when I first bought the car with the bammm shifting from 2 to 1 and 1 to 2 etc, but if I keep the car another 50k I'll probably have to put another one in.
DIYsavecash car got about 330K km on the clock and had it for 5 years now and the sound came soon after I bought it and had no time to sort it out. It should not snap any time soon ;-)) But it is annoying as hell
I hear you, yes very annoying. they should pay us for dealing with this :)
What's the symptoms on when the guido need to be replace
late reply.... thumping or rattling sound under your right elbow rest if in NA... left side if Europe
Does it make the car shake?
The socket is called inverted torx
so if I go up a hill and the gear seems to skip and goes into transmission fail safe this is the guibo too? please advise.
+QMAX21 Hello, it could or could not be, when I was having my Guibo issues my transmission never went into fail safe mode, it could be the transmission sleeve adapter etc, try to Google BMW E65 E66 transmission fail safe mode issues, and read everything you can about this issue in the BMW forums that's where I get all my help when I need it:) Keep me up to date on the issue. You could also try a transmission reset, the other thing that comes to mind is if you have a leak or the oil level is low?
What did u find out?
I found out it was the valve seals leaking oil. The misfires caused the transmission fault to come on.Once this is fixed and the oil cleaned out of the spark plugs the problem should be fine.
+QMAX21 Thanks a lot bro. I just finished my guibo and done a transmission reset and it's still trippin. That's my next move.
br3wskee my car is doing the same thing and it feels like a misfire sometimes when I press on accelerator and sometimes alot of smog comes out from the exhaust, could this problem be making my transmission go into safe mode? thanks
Those are inverted Torx, like E14's etc, not 10mm's
Probably, it would not be the exact same process but very similar.
The guy in Long Island charge 2500 if your sure its the valve steam seal I can get u this guys info
etorx not "star sockets"
That's sounds like a fair price to myself as well, the part he'll get for about 100, and he's charging you 400 in labor, if I were to do this job for someone, I would probably charge the same, if you have the cash it's a good price. Try to get him to do 500 out the door no tax:) Thanks for watching:)
Bad ass. No guess work here.
I really need this done. I hate my car because of this. Any mechanics in Houston, Texas, Westchase Area? that can do this for me for the prices mentioned in the comments? I loved your video. I really wish I can do this job myself but yall laugh at a lady trying to do this.
+gracielaf YOU CAN DO IT. GET A MATE TO HELP. IT NOT STRENGTH BUT TECHNIQE
Your own mechanic or a shop??? If its a shop can u give me the info ..and the smoke coming out of your car could be the valve steam seal I think not really sure but I read about it in the forum it's about a $5000-8000 job but there's a guy in Long Island that a few people from the forum swear by him that his good but I could be wrong Chris the guy that made the video would know more than me so don't just go with my advise
it's giubo from italian giunto
Need help
Worn motor mounts tear up Jewbo's and U joints. FYI. Good motor mounts will save you alot of money and hassles.
Sounds just like the guy from 1A Auto in UA-cam lol
Gwee-boe... or just call it a flex disc.
You must have been stoked when you saw the part was bad! after all that.
you seem to like the word "bolt" the way you pronounce it made me laugh a little.2
hi I hav tundra 2000 but don't go reverse can you tell me what the problem thanks