TO CLARIFY GUAN, SARGON, AND HENRY'S PLACEMENT: depending on who you ask, they'll either say they're must-have, or that they'll be outclassed in the next release of their troop type. So those choices are somewhat on the fence in terms of how long of an invest they will be. discord.gg/chisgule
the big thing here is that william, is someone u get from daily special chest, and is one of the few field commanders in the top 4 of each troop type that is there outside of nebu. That u just can get from the invest in daily. I see it as a mid/low spender choise to go for the daily special to make more vieable marches for combat for people who havent played the game for years and have all maxed.
Hi Chisgo im at the end of kvk2 at the moment and have 630 golden heads i need your advice what is the best infantry march i can have for kvk3 open field. Thanks.
I got maxed Nevsky and Joan's at a decent spot. Going into kvk4 soon. I got maxed YSG and double relic Mehmed. I'm probably going to invest in Zhuge to pair with YSG. Mostly because 1) Chaining purposes 2) He's got more shelf life than Boudica at this point in time. Boudica is not bad in any means. I'm just more optimistic about the new open field archer and wait to see if they are worth investing in and pair with ZL. So makes sense to invest in ZL first and not Boudica. I'm aware how ZL-YSG performs in field and honestly, Idc. I've a feeling i can boost my KP a lot if i used this march and i can bait some people and drag them to my murderball and make them wish they didn't chase my ZL. After maxing ZL, I'll probably work on a second cav march Right now the current meta is Scipio-Liu Che/Nevsky-Joan/Boudica-Zhuge. The amount of gold heads and even getting the minimum gear requirements for each of these marches if going to take you at maximum 2 years. You really need a lot of patience to work on these marches. Honestly, if you can't hack it, it's totally fine if you feel like you don't want to play. The state of the game, with it's short commander release windows and armaments etc, it's hard for newer players to try to progress in the game even if they joined a jumper group. I wish you guys the best and maybe I'll come back to this and make an update on how ZL-YSG did in kvk idk lol.
I got almost the same idea that you have, for now i have Nevsky/Juana and Huo/William, going to max ZL since i have 5535 YSG, i am planning to use those 3 marches. And with this new Soc, I can use the relic on ZL to use it with Huo, and keep those 2 marches on the open field. Sometimes I would be able to get Saladin/William as i did before but that would depend on how much rss i am planning to waste.
I would not suggest maxing boudica for f2p or low spenders unless you also have art to run with her. I have used YSG and zhuge with boudica over the last 2 kvks the first kvk boudica was 5551 the second she was maxed and it really made no noticeable difference in open field fights when she was maxed. She is a great 5551 commander and most people should just leave her there.
Mate question, since u use archers. I wanna work on zl with mehmed and liu che for my sargon. Should i expertice zl for these kvk and leave liu 5551 or do the oposite. Not sure liu expertise is better than zl, but since i never used him idk.
@@adrianvega3229 Obviously she is better but I personally didn't see a noticeable upgrade in my reports. I regret maxing her the 310 sculptures would have been better spent on beefing up one of my other field marches, but that's just my experience/opinion.
@@manuelvelasco2761 I haven't maxed Liu yet because I'm still in pre kvk. But it sounds like it's more a question of how many marches you want to run. I personally lean toward whatever gets you the best 5 marches on the field. Knowing nothing else about your account I would guess Liu 5551 is probably a better upgrade vs maxing zi with this approach. But others will likely tell you to focus on having only top tier meta marches even if that means you only run 1 or 2 marches which would mean maxing zi first. more marches that are not top of meta will get you more kills but higher hospital. fewer marches that are all top of the meta will likely get you fewer kills but also lower hospital bills.
Your the best... ive been watching what I can and investing in the commanders you say are good early game and ftp....doing way better..I have started paying cash but I make sure I get the bang for the buck and line it up with multiple events.....I will be a true member later on rn working on game...and I think people get diff commandors and sculptures with what civilization they choose there is prob another factor in there thou but regardless keep up good work bro I tell everyone about your channel...
Man there really has to be some solution to let low spenders/f2p actually get usable commanders earlier. Waiting for SOC is like a YEAR. It just makes no sense to limit yourself within a GAME for a full YEAR. Should just play something else at that point. Maybe a separate type of sculpture for gold key commanders that is more plentiful? Treating them kinda like upper tier epics, which they already are in terms of usability but not in terms of cost. Nobody buys gold keys with gems anyway, i doubt Lilith would lose much by doing that. And it makes the game HUGELY more appealing to get into. While still keeping big money potential on all those late game commanders.
please answer, i'm a free-to-play player and i need to know if Liu Che + Alex will do a great combo....i got Alex and i'm planning to do Liu Che this moment....
For someone who is about to unlock t5 infantry and has saved enough sculptures to max 2 commanders by the end of kvk 2, should I max scipio and l.c as my first soc march ?
Inf main here f2p 2 years of playing still t4 45m power 2b kills mostly t4-t5 . This is my 2 inf marchers Guan/Scipio LC/Sargon all expertise. Fully equipped with legendary items including accessories. If you want 1 strong inf march Id suggest going for scipio Prime first , skip guan hes outdated but still good. Pair scipio with Lc. If you wanna run 2 inf marches do Guan/Scipio and LC/sargon or alex. Those marches are killing machine
Soooo Sargon is like XY but for inf. Don't even open last skill unless you got gh's to expertise him right away. Also I got William he is at 5532. But those other skills after 5511 has come from taverns commander keys. Had 3x times full William there. 🤕
for my line up i got exp boudicca zl,nebu ysg ,skippy 5541 and mehmed 5552, and saladin 5552 with aeth i would want to upgrade my cav march to nevksy joan i have 700 ghs and nevsky is 5211 and joan is 1121 should i invest in tye cav march or wait a bit
Should talk about 5511 instead. 390 gold heads is still not f2p friendly at all. It's achievable but it takes YEARS to get to 5 or even 10 commanders on 5551. What newer low spend/f2p players need is 5111 or 5511 advice.
Good video, but tbh the game gets to be a chore trying to keep up. I was a low spender when I first started and made major mistakes (noob days) after a run in with Lilleth help (NON-EXISTENT) 🤷🏾🤦🏾♂️🤬🤬😡 I promptly stopped spending I’m 93m power with 3 meta marches and 2 bahh! Ok gear but the game now is losing its spark feels like an uphill march playing catch-up. I really am considering benching my accounts for a while it really just is the kingdom and the bunch of players I still play with since lock down that keeps me playing really.
I need help: I have (Huo maxed/William 5551) , (Boudicca maxed/Artemesia 5525) (Scipio/Alex) , Nevsky/Joan maxed. Shall I max William? Or go to max Zhuge Liang.? Or Work on Liu?
Some of your "not a good investment anymore" are in the daily special offers chests though. They are not good to invest gold heads or wheel spins into, but they are a great buy for $5 a day. Sure, takes roughly 2 months to make them viable that way, but they are the best options through that means of improving commanders, and cheap enough to not get your feelings hurt if you only get a couple kvk's out of them
these days there's just no difference between this list and the investment list. every one of the high invest, top meta commanders are excellent at 5551.
Guys, im kvk3. sun eath marching as inf. I have abt 70k gems and 280 gheads. Should I wait for Scipio and try to get him as high as possible or should I use Liu? I currently have him at lvl 1☠️
@@stjepanjergovic-sabjan3173 best because of his health debuff. Without guan his expertise isn’t doing anything which is why I said 5551 Scipio then expertise liu then expertise Scipio
In all honesty ysg js just a trap simple as that for the cost of expertise on ysg you could have have 5551 boudica and 5551 zhuge liang which would be extremely powerful just dont do ysg there is no point anymore and new archers probably arent too far away at thus point
I literally copied and pasted the title from my last 5551 video from a year or two ago. Pretty sure I was the first dude to start making 5511 and 5551 vids, but no one owns the rights to tier lists. Everyone has their own opinions and it's good for everyone to share what they think.
![Best 5511 Legendary Commanders [Great for F2P] Top 5 Updated 2023 in Rise of Kingdoms](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RtydMrOC_GM/mqdefault.jpg)
![Best 5511 Legendary Commanders [Great for F2P] Top 5 Updated 2023 in Rise of Kingdoms](/img/tr.png)
![Top 5 open field commanders [Which would you pick?] Rise of Kingdoms](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/00OsSBld3Zc/mqdefault.jpg)
![Should Liu Che be primary? [test results might surprise you...] Rise of Kingdoms](/img/n.gif)
TO CLARIFY GUAN, SARGON, AND HENRY'S PLACEMENT: depending on who you ask, they'll either say they're must-have, or that they'll be outclassed in the next release of their troop type. So those choices are somewhat on the fence in terms of how long of an invest they will be. discord.gg/chisgule
the big thing here is that william, is someone u get from daily special chest, and is one of the few field commanders in the top 4 of each troop type that is there outside of nebu. That u just can get from the invest in daily. I see it as a mid/low spender choise to go for the daily special to make more vieable marches for combat for people who havent played the game for years and have all maxed.
Hi Chisgo im at the end of kvk2 at the moment and have 630 golden heads i need your advice what is the best infantry march i can have for kvk3 open field. Thanks.
it would be good if you do 2 lists with time stemps pre soc and soc
I got maxed Nevsky and Joan's at a decent spot. Going into kvk4 soon. I got maxed YSG and double relic Mehmed. I'm probably going to invest in Zhuge to pair with YSG. Mostly because 1) Chaining purposes 2) He's got more shelf life than Boudica at this point in time. Boudica is not bad in any means. I'm just more optimistic about the new open field archer and wait to see if they are worth investing in and pair with ZL. So makes sense to invest in ZL first and not Boudica. I'm aware how ZL-YSG performs in field and honestly, Idc. I've a feeling i can boost my KP a lot if i used this march and i can bait some people and drag them to my murderball and make them wish they didn't chase my ZL. After maxing ZL, I'll probably work on a second cav march
Right now the current meta is Scipio-Liu Che/Nevsky-Joan/Boudica-Zhuge. The amount of gold heads and even getting the minimum gear requirements for each of these marches if going to take you at maximum 2 years. You really need a lot of patience to work on these marches. Honestly, if you can't hack it, it's totally fine if you feel like you don't want to play. The state of the game, with it's short commander release windows and armaments etc, it's hard for newer players to try to progress in the game even if they joined a jumper group. I wish you guys the best and maybe I'll come back to this and make an update on how ZL-YSG did in kvk idk lol.
I got almost the same idea that you have, for now i have Nevsky/Juana and Huo/William, going to max ZL since i have 5535 YSG, i am planning to use those 3 marches. And with this new Soc, I can use the relic on ZL to use it with Huo, and keep those 2 marches on the open field. Sometimes I would be able to get Saladin/William as i did before but that would depend on how much rss i am planning to waste.
I would not suggest maxing boudica for f2p or low spenders unless you also have art to run with her. I have used YSG and zhuge with boudica over the last 2 kvks the first kvk boudica was 5551 the second she was maxed and it really made no noticeable difference in open field fights when she was maxed. She is a great 5551 commander and most people should just leave her there.
Mate question, since u use archers. I wanna work on zl with mehmed and liu che for my sargon. Should i expertice zl for these kvk and leave liu 5551 or do the oposite. Not sure liu expertise is better than zl, but since i never used him idk.
@@manuelvelasco2761zhuge maxed
I just expertised her and it’s a big difference. The 10% all damage (15% when attacking inf) is a huge boost.
@@adrianvega3229 Obviously she is better but I personally didn't see a noticeable upgrade in my reports. I regret maxing her the 310 sculptures would have been better spent on beefing up one of my other field marches, but that's just my experience/opinion.
@@manuelvelasco2761 I haven't maxed Liu yet because I'm still in pre kvk. But it sounds like it's more a question of how many marches you want to run. I personally lean toward whatever gets you the best 5 marches on the field. Knowing nothing else about your account I would guess Liu 5551 is probably a better upgrade vs maxing zi with this approach. But others will likely tell you to focus on having only top tier meta marches even if that means you only run 1 or 2 marches which would mean maxing zi first. more marches that are not top of meta will get you more kills but higher hospital. fewer marches that are all top of the meta will likely get you fewer kills but also lower hospital bills.
Man. This was sooo helpful. I have fell behind do to taking a brake and this has even the most Help iv gotten sense back I to the game a month ago.
I will forever be jealous of my brother who managed to get his Jeanne/Joan to 5115 last anniversary, and now 5515. Damn.
What's your power? In which KD?
I make Joan 5425
Be ready for ark tomorrow,and don’t stress over commanders,i want the 10 gh
@@Zaraki__ wru?
I manage to make my Joan to 5515 but i want to expertised her so i did
Your the best... ive been watching what I can and investing in the commanders you say are good early game and ftp....doing way better..I have started paying cash but I make sure I get the bang for the buck and line it up with multiple events.....I will be a true member later on rn working on game...and I think people get diff commandors and sculptures with what civilization they choose there is prob another factor in there thou but regardless keep up good work bro I tell everyone about your channel...
As a person with 2 million power I know I’ll be watching this in a year
Try 3 😂
Hey Chisgule, can you post a video about which commanders we should target first on the field please?, will be very useful, thank you so much 💗
Man there really has to be some solution to let low spenders/f2p actually get usable commanders earlier.
Waiting for SOC is like a YEAR. It just makes no sense to limit yourself within a GAME for a full YEAR. Should just play something else at that point.
Maybe a separate type of sculpture for gold key commanders that is more plentiful? Treating them kinda like upper tier epics, which they already are in terms of usability but not in terms of cost. Nobody buys gold keys with gems anyway, i doubt Lilith would lose much by doing that. And it makes the game HUGELY more appealing to get into. While still keeping big money potential on all those late game commanders.
The thing is even if you dont need the experise, you still need the last skill to get massive value except for some
I'm an infantry main, Guan/leo is still on of the beat swarming marches, hands down!!!!! I don't know why he's so good for swarming... but he is lol
that's my only pairing that gets bad trades and I have my best infa set :D so idk why all ppl are so hype about this pairing
Great video as always Chis ! Quick question. Will you cover Grand Cross age of Titan's again in your future videos?
Currently in kvk and scipio primary paired with liu che is super tanky. I've been getting good reports
please answer, i'm a free-to-play player and i need to know if Liu Che + Alex will do a great combo....i got Alex and i'm planning to do Liu Che this moment....
Yes
Is Justinian usable at 5551 as support rally with Nevski or it's definitely no before max?
For someone who is about to unlock t5 infantry and has saved enough sculptures to max 2 commanders by the end of kvk 2, should I max scipio and l.c as my first soc march ?
M in your same spot. I am about to max scipio and stop to check all infantry news. Then decide.
definetily scipio, liu still need to wait for his open field reports
Inf main here f2p 2 years of playing still t4 45m power 2b kills mostly t4-t5 . This is my 2 inf marchers Guan/Scipio LC/Sargon all expertise. Fully equipped with legendary items including accessories. If you want 1 strong inf march Id suggest going for scipio Prime first , skip guan hes outdated but still good. Pair scipio with Lc. If you wanna run 2 inf marches do Guan/Scipio and LC/sargon or alex. Those marches are killing machine
Thanks for the tips.
I'm f2p and i'm infa player is scipi with liu che one of the best paring? is it worth to put heads on liu che?
And Huo at 5551, 5155 or 5515?
Soooo Sargon is like XY but for inf. Don't even open last skill unless you got gh's to expertise him right away.
Also I got William he is at 5532. But those other skills after 5511 has come from taverns commander keys. Had 3x times full William there. 🤕
for my line up i got exp boudicca zl,nebu ysg ,skippy 5541 and mehmed 5552, and saladin 5552 with aeth i would want to upgrade my cav march to nevksy joan i have 700 ghs and nevsky is 5211 and joan is 1121 should i invest in tye cav march or wait a bit
Should talk about 5511 instead. 390 gold heads is still not f2p friendly at all. It's achievable but it takes YEARS to get to 5 or even 10 commanders on 5551. What newer low spend/f2p players need is 5111 or 5511 advice.
Check out the card in the endscreen for my 5511 vid :)
i was wondering if i want to main 1 troop type and want to send 2-3 marches max which is it? and which pair @chisgule gaming
Good video, but tbh the game gets to be a chore trying to keep up. I was a low spender when I first started and made major mistakes (noob days) after a run in with Lilleth help (NON-EXISTENT) 🤷🏾🤦🏾♂️🤬🤬😡 I promptly stopped spending I’m 93m power with 3 meta marches and 2 bahh! Ok gear but the game now is losing its spark feels like an uphill march playing catch-up. I really am considering benching my accounts for a while it really just is the kingdom and the bunch of players I still play with since lock down that keeps me playing really.
I need help: I have (Huo maxed/William 5551) , (Boudicca maxed/Artemesia 5525) (Scipio/Alex) , Nevsky/Joan maxed. Shall I max William? Or go to max Zhuge Liang.? Or Work on Liu?
No William maxing the answer in video.😅
Better horde GHs
Some of your "not a good investment anymore" are in the daily special offers chests though. They are not good to invest gold heads or wheel spins into, but they are a great buy for $5 a day. Sure, takes roughly 2 months to make them viable that way, but they are the best options through that means of improving commanders, and cheap enough to not get your feelings hurt if you only get a couple kvk's out of them
Scipio obv the best commander 5551 I don't know why it dropped to 2nd place
For a Scipio and Liu che march, is it better to have expertise scipio with a 5551 Liu or a 5551 scipio with an expertise Liuche?
Iiu expertise is better
Are Huo william better than huo honda? 🤔
these days there's just no difference between this list and the investment list.
every one of the high invest, top meta commanders are excellent at 5551.
Can we pair xiang/zhuge?
Guys, im kvk3. sun eath marching as inf. I have abt 70k gems and 280 gheads. Should I wait for Scipio and try to get him as high as possible or should I use Liu? I currently have him at lvl 1☠️
Probably should 5551 Scipio then put everything into liu until expertised
Def go for scipio he still is the best inf commander
@@stjepanjergovic-sabjan3173 best because of his health debuff. Without guan his expertise isn’t doing anything which is why I said 5551 Scipio then expertise liu then expertise Scipio
thanks!
Make this type of video for the call of dragon heroes also 😁😁
As it turns out, I've already made that here for 5511 COD ua-cam.com/video/FBuwe6gCSIk/v-deo.html
Still waiting for 5111 epics for kvk
I want to see 5511 legendary vs 5555 epic list…
We need a universal museum medal
Hello i have 630 golden heads what is the best infantry pair i can have for open field please help 🙏
Check out my dedicated infantry video. Right now it's liu che sargon.
In all honesty ysg js just a trap simple as that for the cost of expertise on ysg you could have have 5551 boudica and 5551 zhuge liang which would be extremely powerful just dont do ysg there is no point anymore and new archers probably arent too far away at thus point
5550 - is that even possible? When you reset skills, all 4 have 1 already added.
You skip the 4th star so you dont unlock the skill
Oh I already unlocked sargon's 4th skill 😢
Is Liu better than relic exp Alex at 5551?
Same question, I worry that the answer is a resounding yes
Any soc commander 5511 is better than max alex
@20:29 😂😂😂😂😂
🔥
small question, I have a dilemma to take out three infantry marches,
sargon liu,scipion tariq,guan alex
or sargon liu, guan scipio, pakal harald
GuanSargon, ScipioLiu, HaraldAlex
@@codot4540 harald alex is solid?
sargon liu is better than scipio liu right?
I will go Scipio/Harald, Liu/Sargon and Guan/Alex. Scipio/Harald gets tons of KP specially in murderballs, very underated.
Why no love for honda?
I would argue about Tomyris 5115. You enter Orleans kvk and you know why
haha that is true, I didn't consider their utility for auxiliary skills
I'm from Indonesia, and I really admire you and Yoda 808. Do you have any unused or idle accounts you can give to me? 😁 🥺
Dov'è Tariq?
How about 5551 CharlesMartel😂
Why do a video about this and then just as you get into it put joan oh but you want her 5115 really.. dude... then she is not a 5551! lol
❤
Scipio or Liu che
Scipio . can put with anyone and will be good
Ohh thank you
5555😁
Have been attacked can I have one of your accounts
Lmaaaaaaaaooooooooooo you could at least not copy paste the video name from Omniarch's video😂😂😂😂😂😂
I literally copied and pasted the title from my last 5551 video from a year or two ago. Pretty sure I was the first dude to start making 5511 and 5551 vids, but no one owns the rights to tier lists. Everyone has their own opinions and it's good for everyone to share what they think.
He has an entirely different perspective tho
the games dieing this is reason why useless commanders!
Aku harap bisa memiliki akun T5 🥲