imo charles martel and julius caesar are worthy of being in honourable mention tier. charles martel at 5511 with double relic is insanely good. if paired with a expertised alex and it's just an insane march. probably not as the first or second march as an inf main but definitely worth considering as the third march imo. athefled with julius 5511 and both double relic is also insanely good. both have march speed from their relics and u get an insane amt of damage increase/atk with a fair amt of def for survivability and also debuff from athe. it's really good as a mixed march especially now with the leadership equipment.
Is it better to invest 5511 multiple commanders or expertise one commander? Like I get you get better trades with maxed commander but what if when you finally max your commander it falls off meta?
Oh man I missed this. With the new archers I was really thinking about what to invest into next, and I missed this series, so this is perfect, thank you so much, this will really help! I also see you are back at the greenscreen :) Keep up the great work!
Imagine if they put in an option where you can upgrade early game commanders to an infinite power stat adding health, speed, attack & defense with the relic coins
@@laogui7465 already it’s pay to win. I have been playing for 3 years as mid spender, I still have 3 marches but inly 2 full legendary equipments. And most Gold key commanders 5551.
@@DDKKAYI’ve been playing as mid spender for 1 year and a half and I have 3 marches with full legendary gear a 5535 mulan and 5553 cc and 1 fully crit legendary set minus 1 accessory (non crit ring) also developing fourth march
for some reason i believe next inf release is going to be prime sun tzu (this has no relation to the video whatsoever). Imagine how op he would be lmao crazy
I don’t understand why sun tzu prime would be op if the skills have no relevance to their epic versions, it could be trash and most primes switch their unit type when transferring from epic to legendary
I’m going to disagree, methmed needs to be in top 5. For anyone entering soc the versatility of methmed makes him top 5 he can be your second pair for any march as you expand your march count.
Hey Chisgule, I have been using Nev/Mina because I am only in my 5th kvk. I have that march Guan/Alex Scipio/Mehmed Boudicca/YSG. Who would you say is the best next investment for me? I am inf main and gear is best for that troop type! Thank you, love the vids!
Im heading in my first kvk3. Is it worth it to go for nevsky, joan zhuge, boudicca and scipio all for 5511 so i have good value? Please i need some advice
I still have 20 days left of kvk1, where i move my main soon after kvk1. Get to collect gh's ,save on crystal tech for 2 kvk's and getting commander's expertised. Got Liu Zhan open so i got 2 kvk's time to get sculptures to it too.
What about if you pair Zhuge with Boudicca, Zhuge second skill has a 50% chance to dispel silence so if you pair Boudicca and Zhuge you don’t really need the expertise on Boudicca. Right ? This is according to Omniarchs new video.
Does this make kvk equipment more valuable vs the normal set pieces for helms/weapons? I.e. is the delta between them going to increase disproportionately?
I'm just gonna include the ones that you considered and denied for honorable mention as "low tier honorable mention" for kvk1 This would be Ceasar, Martel, Thutmose, Caocao, Mulan
What do you about the people who gets on top 1 or 2 from the mightiest governor? with those top 1 or 2 get a lot of sculpture of Julius Caesar and after they get those 1 to 2 times are they more advance now?
If i have only YSG maxed for a now, What should i do? I have 350 golden heads… go For ZL and try to max him Or maybe think about 5511 and do second march?
minimato 5512 right now. It is very expensive to make full, do you think 5512 is enough for kvk 1 or will it be powerless? my english is not very good :( can you answer please
Would love to see a video about testing please Becuz im a f2p n my best march is guan 5,5,4,1 n spicio is 5,1,1,1 but gets destory in OF n i only bring 1-2 marches becuz than my hopitsal gets full also i posted some fighting video n if u dont mind can u tell what i did wrong on my acc while fighting?
It's not worth resetting your skill. They are expensive. Your problem is going with a half job commander. Focused on 1. Then the next. Your opponent has more skills open. If I were you. I would focus on getting golden gears.
it depends on how many gems you've got. If you only have 27k gems, don't do it as more than gems is close. If you have 77k or more, do it as you'll receive daily gold heads before and still receive the gold heads from the event rewards. Anything in the middle is up to you honestly. But for most people it might be better to just wait
@@golden_legend6188 I strongly suggest. Save all your gems and go straight to VIP 14. You will not regret it. That's 90 golden sculptures in a month. Anything else is like only a one time deal.
great! but i'm a bit confused... so is it better to focus on one commander, finish him to have him really strong or better distribute the heads on 4/5 commanders with the first two skills at the beginning and then complete them gradually?
Ignore the noobs commenting here. Chisgule plainly stated THIS was a 5511 list, which predominately is useful for ftp, who may never easily max several commanders. So the FIRST thing you must recognize is, what kind of player are you really? IF ftp, you'll have more fun, with careful fighting by following his advice here. You will NEVER, if truly ftp, have all the best commanders maxed. And one march in the endgame, no matter how good, will not defeat any ftp with 4 or 5 marches at 5511. So figure out what kind of a player you are and will be, and that alone will tell you what you should do. Listen to Chisgule. He's seen a thing or two in RoK.
@@KNNY61 ok, thanks very lot. I am ftp all time! And now I'm racking up golden heads. I would like to complete this pair: Scipio + Alexander; Nevsky + Joan Arco; Boudica + Z. Liang. Now i have a bit more 1.000 golden heads and i don't know if max first Scipio all, or to follow the system chisgule. If i complete first Scipio, i might to have a full first pair, i don't know how to do, i am confused.
I still use him with Scipio, but if You will start maxing him now you will need 6 months to max him and by that time you will have access to Scipio Prime, and the next Infantry commander in January or march 2024.
El cid is not even top 10. For field specifically: 1) zhuge 2) boudica P 3) nebu 4) ysg 5) Henry 6) artemisia 7) Gilgamesh 8) amanitore 9) ramsses 10) tomy 11) Edward 12) el cid
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I just watched ur last vid about this the 3 month ago 😂😂😂 time to watch this one
Man this is so good. Good job 🎉🎉🎉
imo charles martel and julius caesar are worthy of being in honourable mention tier. charles martel at 5511 with double relic is insanely good. if paired with a expertised alex and it's just an insane march. probably not as the first or second march as an inf main but definitely worth considering as the third march imo.
athefled with julius 5511 and both double relic is also insanely good. both have march speed from their relics and u get an insane amt of damage increase/atk with a fair amt of def for survivability and also debuff from athe. it's really good as a mixed march especially now with the leadership equipment.
Finally justice for f2p I am f2p wow chisgule is back on his studio❤
Chisgule has been making quality content on ROK for years, but these informative and inspiring videos typically for F2P are just INVALUABLE!
It's quite easy to find what's the best commander for f2p you just need to use your brain a little
Love the content as usual bro. You are helping so many people just know that.
This video came at the perfect time as my kingdom just finished kvk 2 :)
Is it better to invest 5511 multiple commanders or expertise one commander? Like I get you get better trades with maxed commander but what if when you finally max your commander it falls off meta?
Very informative and comprehensive video, thank you.
I hope you had a good time with your family
As always great video ❤❤
Oh man I missed this. With the new archers I was really thinking about what to invest into next, and I missed this series, so this is perfect, thank you so much, this will really help! I also see you are back at the greenscreen :) Keep up the great work!
ohh my god what a video!! one of the most value videos on this channel. Thank you so much for this !
Imagine if they put in an option where you can upgrade early game commanders to an infinite power stat adding health, speed, attack & defense with the relic coins
I hope they don’t, it’ll be so broken and pay to win
@@laogui7465 already it’s pay to win. I have been playing for 3 years as mid spender, I still have 3 marches but inly 2 full legendary equipments. And most Gold key commanders 5551.
why would they do that lmao
@@DDKKAYI’ve been playing as mid spender for 1 year and a half and I have 3 marches with full legendary gear a 5535 mulan and 5553 cc and 1 fully crit legendary set minus 1 accessory (non crit ring) also developing fourth march
What version is this, I don't have most of these characters in my game. The don't show nor can I unlock them
Good stuff, I don’t spend much because I am a responsible adult. But you gave me really good information
for some reason i believe next inf release is going to be prime sun tzu (this has no relation to the video whatsoever). Imagine how op he would be lmao crazy
Not necessarily Infantry, could be leadership. Like the difference between (Scipio, Boudica, Joan of Arc) between the epic and the Prime.
Osman?
I don’t understand why sun tzu prime would be op if the skills have no relevance to their epic versions, it could be trash and most primes switch their unit type when transferring from epic to legendary
I always look forward to watching your videos, but today's video has subtitles turned off. I am Japanese and not good at English😂
I havent played in 2 years just taking a look to see whats new :)
the moctezuma vid man, i remember having a bad day that time and i watched the vid and it made me laugh GG man keep it up
As someone entering Kvk 3 for the first time in a couple days this is a god send.
I’m going to disagree, methmed needs to be in top 5. For anyone entering soc the versatility of methmed makes him top 5 he can be your second pair for any march as you expand your march count.
What to be pair with Mehmed?
Poors man honda. Scipio nev and xy is what people usualy use them
Watch your video on guangyu a while ago when you said to skip the second skill. So far super Lucky. 5144
Hey Chisgule, I have been using Nev/Mina because I am only in my 5th kvk. I have that march Guan/Alex Scipio/Mehmed Boudicca/YSG. Who would you say is the best next investment for me? I am inf main and gear is best for that troop type! Thank you, love the vids!
Loving this content, thank you
Archher main new player here. I like Henry leading my ysg as a second archer open field march
Welcome home my friend!
You are amazing man, you should get a lot more views than you do
Im heading in my first kvk3. Is it worth it to go for nevsky, joan zhuge, boudicca and scipio all for 5511 so i have good value? Please i need some advice
I still have 20 days left of kvk1, where i move my main soon after kvk1. Get to collect gh's ,save on crystal tech for 2 kvk's and getting commander's expertised. Got Liu Zhan open so i got 2 kvk's time to get sculptures to it too.
I want a gold head refund on my genghis Alex Saladin and ysg
Subscribed, you're awesome
thx for helping me with the video, i would wish to see a new expertise tierlist , with the new greece commander incuded, he seemse to be great..?
nice video chis your the best
What about if you pair Zhuge with Boudicca, Zhuge second skill has a 50% chance to dispel silence so if you pair Boudicca and Zhuge you don’t really need the expertise on Boudicca. Right ? This is according to Omniarchs new video.
That is true but I don’t think he was talking about pairs much in this video he was focusing more on the commander itself
@@squishey_2.088 That’s true, anyway Boudicca is still awesome no matter what lol 😁
Boudica max to do maxinal emotional damage vs infantry. Performes good vs cavs.
Nice vid keep up
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Does this make kvk equipment more valuable vs the normal set pieces for helms/weapons? I.e. is the delta between them going to increase disproportionately?
Nice video Chisgule! Why no Henry at 5511?
He’s actually pretty solid. Lack of aoe dmg is the issue, plus one skill irrelevant for field.
Can you do this on call of dragons, i got no idea what best even on talents im kind of lost xd
Not saying I won’t miss Cortex but it’s nice to have Cheezegul back
I don't want to change the subject but what are the golden apples for what good are they?
Can you please make a UA-cam video about the golden apples and the trust thing in Rise of Kingdoms
Just unlocked Nevsky and got him too 5111 any tips on how to upgrade him faster as a f2p?
Only one that sits funny with me is the William there instead of Boudicca, will have to give it more thought tho because William is a beast too
What pair Williams with?
@@ajimbrozmina, Saladin, XY, nevsky, Chandra. Mainly XY and mina for most players. Mina has to be double relicced
Can u make a video about barbarian camps and keeps?
So is Nebu fine at 5511? Im investing in zhuge currently and I need a pairing for him and nebu is in the daily chest so is it worth getting him 5511?
The question is 5511 Boudica Expert Zhuge OR Expert Zhuge YSG. I mean i will eventually work on Boudica but its won't be online so soon.
Is the Zhuge liang + Boudica prime 5511 better than Nevsky + Joan prime? What is the best 5511 combo
Who would be the best pair for Scipio at 5511?
I'm just gonna include the ones that you considered and denied for honorable mention as "low tier honorable mention" for kvk1
This would be Ceasar, Martel, Thutmose, Caocao, Mulan
Who is the better secondary with Max Boudicca P.. max YSG or 5511 Liang ?
Would Newski 5511 Joan 5511 work together? Or should 1 of them maxed?
What do you about the people who gets on top 1 or 2 from the mightiest governor?
with those top 1 or 2 get a lot of sculpture of Julius Caesar
and after they get those 1 to 2 times are they more advance now?
do you think*
Chisgule how about Tariq secondary whit sargon is good 5511
Zhuge at 5511 still valid chisgule? Watching this video late?
I main arhers and Ive got a ysg only. do i go for boudica or zhuge?
My takeway from this video is get myself a William lol
I want a 5551 list and a dolphin 🐬 category, many of us are not whales but above recharge level of spending.
... most of the 5511 comms recommended in the video are highly preferred to be expertised. Any comm just good to STOP at 5511?
No one 5511 is just okay to field
Sorry im a idiot.. if you put 2 relics on minimoto, do they work even if hes not the primary commander?
KVK3 access to commanders is overrated since u have 2 months less time to accrue the heads for ur new commander.
how should ubgrade scypio i have alreday 5511 but what should be next?
Is max Alex better than 5511 scipio with guan?
So Joan prime 5511 ? If so then ima do that after Henry maxed
I have ysg max
I have goldhead 900.what next ?BudicaP(max)/JL5551
BudicaP(max)/Ysg(max)
Ysg(max)/JL(max)
(I need focus kill point)
If i have only YSG maxed for a now, What should i do? I have 350 golden heads… go For ZL and try to max him Or maybe think about 5511 and do second march?
Max ZL is much better, specially if you put good Gear on him, better than going for two weak marches.
5511 for ZL and save for Boudica prime expertise
hey @Chisgule, why 5511 and not expertise?
minimato 5512 right now. It is very expensive to make full, do you think 5512 is enough for kvk 1 or will it be powerless? my english is not very good :( can you answer please
5512 is good enough for kvk 1. You can use it
thanks
i’m in kvk 1 rn when is it that we unlock armaments?
How Abou zhuge liang?
Is that good 5511 or 5551
Currently I am running a maxed Nevsky with a 5552 william. Do you think a 5511 Joan prime is better than William?
And thank you for the video
Will one of the next new cav commanders be rally or garrison?
Garrison probably, we haven’t had a garrison+cavalry ever I do think, or at least not for a long while
Would love to see a video about testing please Becuz im a f2p n my best march is guan 5,5,4,1 n spicio is 5,1,1,1 but gets destory in OF n i only bring 1-2 marches becuz than my hopitsal gets full also i posted some fighting video n if u dont mind can u tell what i did wrong on my acc while fighting?
I'm not trying to promote my channel tho I just need help from a pro 😊
Skill reset your guan you want him 5155
@@RileyCP ok
It's not worth resetting your skill. They are expensive. Your problem is going with a half job commander. Focused on 1. Then the next. Your opponent has more skills open. If I were you. I would focus on getting golden gears.
@@dapooramericanhomesteadfar7192 yeah ik it's my mistake I used many gh on different commanders but that's becuz I was new to the game
After nevsky, what's next in the wheel? Anyone knows?
I’m in kvk 1 why are there so many legs
zhuge liang and YSG will be fun to use , and looking at the aoe kills will be nice
Been using them in my kvk. Altar fights are great. Soooo many kills. It's worth it if you play the fights smart.
Try barb chaining with zhuge ysg
@ilikeknafs9563 Terrible advice. No sustain. Richard/zhuge or ysg is still the best. It'll live forever and you can chain non stop.
@@sukeforth7043 What you think about Thutsmosis & Charles? 😆 Was try it and was good xd
I use just Thutsmosis & YSG in KVK2 🤣
can you also a 5111 list?
Henry is good too for 5511 for open field
Imagine having good commanders
Hey chis should I keep waiting for mtg or should I spend my gems to get to vip 10? I'm 27k vip away
I would go VIP. Commander comes and goes but your investment in VIPs always earns you interest and never lose value.
@@dapooramericanhomesteadfar7192 should I wait for mtg or just spend it?
it depends on how many gems you've got. If you only have 27k gems, don't do it as more than gems is close. If you have 77k or more, do it as you'll receive daily gold heads before and still receive the gold heads from the event rewards. Anything in the middle is up to you honestly. But for most people it might be better to just wait
@felipemurta9160 thx for the advice I have 66k gems and extra reserves so I should go for it?
@@golden_legend6188 I strongly suggest. Save all your gems and go straight to VIP 14. You will not regret it. That's 90 golden sculptures in a month. Anything else is like only a one time deal.
ysg bad for 5511 right so he good when expertise
i would put tothmes in whale category he is just beast in kvk 1 and 2 still
Absolut agreed ! I play him just with YSG ♥️
Control effects don't include stat debuffs
Shouldn't one of Nevsky or Joan be an honorable mention right now given new cav commanders are 2 months out.
Have a great day
Great 😊
if lilith make range comm doing AOE damage. then people will reconsider to use them
8:45 when you know you've played too much call of dragons
awakening- expertise
I have ysg 5515 in kvk 2, i will have 350-400 gh when entering kvk 3, who should i take ?
A jaka cywilizacją grasz ?
I would save it up and max Joan.
max ysg. If you don't you would just lose all those sculptures. YSG is still super good in open field, zhuge is just better.
Can i ask something, did RoK nerf Leonidas first skill?
I know Leo's first skill doesn't work as the description says but what nerf you're talking about
@@hezhang8843 If i remember correctly, it should be 40% max health buff and was there any direct damage before?
great! but i'm a bit confused... so is it better to focus on one commander, finish him to have him really strong or better distribute the heads on 4/5 commanders with the first two skills at the beginning and then complete them gradually?
Start with one
focus to exp one pair . spreading your gh on 5511 is destroying your progress and you will be wracked on open field
thanks to all. So it is no ... so good this way, 5 5 1 1 😁
Ignore the noobs commenting here. Chisgule plainly stated THIS was a 5511 list, which predominately is useful for ftp, who may never easily max several commanders.
So the FIRST thing you must recognize is, what kind of player are you really? IF ftp, you'll have more fun, with careful fighting by following his advice here. You will NEVER, if truly ftp, have all the best commanders maxed. And one march in the endgame, no matter how good, will not defeat any ftp with 4 or 5 marches at 5511.
So figure out what kind of a player you are and will be, and that alone will tell you what you should do. Listen to Chisgule. He's seen a thing or two in RoK.
@@KNNY61 ok, thanks very lot. I am ftp all time! And now I'm racking up golden heads. I would like to complete this pair: Scipio + Alexander; Nevsky + Joan Arco; Boudica + Z. Liang. Now i have a bit more 1.000 golden heads and i don't know if max first Scipio all, or to follow the system chisgule. If i complete first Scipio, i might to have a full first pair, i don't know how to do, i am confused.
is memhed good
is alexander the great worth unlocking as f2p/low spender?
Yes,only before kvk3
I still use him with Scipio, but if You will start maxing him now you will need 6 months to max him and by that time you will have access to Scipio Prime, and the next Infantry commander in January or march 2024.
I basically only use Mina for barb forts
Artemesia 3rd or 4th best archer? Let's see - 1) Boudica Prime 2) Zhuge, 3) Henry, 4) El Cid. Nope, not top 4. :D
El cid is not even top 10. For field specifically: 1) zhuge 2) boudica P 3) nebu 4) ysg 5) Henry 6) artemisia 7) Gilgamesh 8) amanitore 9) ramsses 10) tomy 11) Edward 12) el cid
@@Adammoooooo dude, it was a joke. Don't be so serious.
Best f2p zenobia 5511 & yss + hera max def home
I will be f*** up with my half skill comanders if I meet someone like you in the field. It's not a good idea 😅
Can I use legendary sculpture to upgrade star level? Will it affect the commander in any way?
goat of rok
RIP XY Nebu 😢
lol almost all in the list have been used by me for 5111 now they are 5511 expertising 1 by 1 now 😂
Don’t leave us again please 🙏
okee next zguhe must be priority😅